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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing

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Speaker 1: in Heels. This show is all about celebrating the most

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Speaker 1: extraordinary superwoman who will be sharing their incredible journeys to

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Speaker 1: the top, all while saying glamorous. Okay, I love this

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Speaker 1: week's guest so much. We fell in love in Paris

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Speaker 1: just before COVID. We had met each other a few

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Speaker 1: times and she's truthfully one of the most down to

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Speaker 1: earth coolest girls I've ever met. And I say girl,

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Speaker 1: but she's a woman, But she's a girl that she's

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Speaker 1: a woman. She's about Okay. The wonderful Nikki Read is

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Speaker 1: joining me today, and she is such an incredible light.

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Speaker 1: And of course, from actor and writer to joy designer

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Speaker 1: and entrepreneur, Nikki's work is honestly the most incredible example

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Speaker 1: of how creativity can evolve and change throughout our lives,

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Speaker 1: throughout a never ending career, multifaceted career. She's the mother

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Speaker 1: of two children. She's married to Ian Summerholder. You may

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Speaker 1: have heard of him, also the sweetest, kindest, most down

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Speaker 1: to earth guy ever. And she may be my favorite

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Speaker 1: fictitious vampire to grace the screen. And she knows that

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Speaker 1: I love that about her. Fangirl Nikki had a lot

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Speaker 1: to share today, and I'm so excited to share this

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Speaker 1: episode with all of you, so let's get right into it.

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Speaker 1: I'm surrounded by extraordinary women, as are you, and all

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Speaker 1: doing great, big, amazing things and at the top of

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Speaker 1: their field, whatever that field may be. But I think

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Speaker 1: what's most important to getting to where we see women winning,

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Speaker 1: or where you may feel like you're winning in life,

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Speaker 1: it's that journey to get there that is unique, that

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Speaker 1: is sometimes terrifying, It's sometimes dark, and sometimes extraordinary and

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Speaker 1: lonely and all the things.

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Speaker 2: And scary and challenging and pushing you to your limit,

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Speaker 2: and also the most rewarding when you feel like you've

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Speaker 2: you know, you've put on those heels and you've been climbing, And.

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Speaker 3: It is because I feel like that, you know, I

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Speaker 1: Part of this whole thing is really how we all

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Speaker 1: choose to like embrace the powers of being a woman,

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Speaker 1: right And I think, as we all know, those powers

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Speaker 1: can be squashed by other women, they can be squashed

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Speaker 1: by men. Watch just in gent by the way we

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Speaker 1: can squash our own ourselvesselves, which I'm.

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Speaker 2: So really the conversation to have too is like how

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Speaker 2: that we that are like self induced, that we you know,

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Speaker 1: And I think I I mean, I definitely say that

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Speaker 1: very loudly to anybody who will listen. Like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I trip over myself probably the most in my life,

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Speaker 1: right Like I'm like, people will be like, you can

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Speaker 1: and I'll be like, nah.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: And so I love talking to women who have had

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Speaker 1: their own unique journeys because I think it's so important

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Speaker 1: so incredibly unique. And I mean, I'd love to hear

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously whatever you're comfortable speaking about, of course,

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Speaker 1: but I think to the extent that like we can

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Speaker 1: understand like how did like how did you start? You

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Speaker 1: grew up here? Right, you grew up in la.

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Speaker 4: Hmmm, I did? Oh goodness, back to the beginning. So

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Speaker 2: Sitting there talking about how you trip over yourself sometimes,

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Speaker 2: women that believe in you as much, if not more

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Speaker 1: Definitely more.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we can talk about why it's so

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Speaker 2: important to have that, you know, female power and presence.

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Speaker 4: Some small way you considered me, you consider me in

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Speaker 1: Orbit I consider you a lot. You and some of

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Speaker 2: And on that note, you were one of the first

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Speaker 2: feels like to have somebody walk a path, you know,

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Speaker 2: for me, and I just I couldn't go five minutes

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Speaker 2: to me, you know, because as you talk about my

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Speaker 4: If you will, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know what what you know. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: I've been working very hard for a very long time,

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Speaker 2: like the model in my life, which is you have

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Speaker 2: not like it just lands on your lap and you

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to to put yourself in situations that

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Speaker 2: bring forth that creativity or that inspiration or that passion.

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Speaker 2: And it's sort of like the analogy of like my

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Speaker 2: To seek out and chase that, you know, and here

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Speaker 1: Well, no, but it's very interesting because listen, we'll get

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Speaker 2: You know, and also how do we define creativity, Like

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Speaker 4: Was so scary. And creativity comes in so many different forms.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I had to realize is I didn't

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Speaker 2: I just transitioned that creativity into a new space. Operations

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Speaker 2: So I at one point thought that I was like

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Speaker 2: Because I didn't really ever let it go, but sort

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Speaker 4: It just comes in a different form.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you have more control over it. I

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Speaker 2: what you were just saying, which is having more control,

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Speaker 1: and Brittany, and like there was that like insanity of

441
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: like and I think it's it's interesting that I think,

442
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: without question, people that come out of those experiences, I

443
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: think you almost while grateful. I think I think crave

444
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: peace a little bit, right, I mean, like peace and

445
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: maybe privacy. But but it's not without gratitude, I guess.

446
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: I think it's like you take from these experiences, right,

447
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: like how do you because I feel like now when

448
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: I think of you, I think of peace. I think

449
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: of someone who is living this. I don't want to

450
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: say fair retail because fairy tale seems not real. I

451
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: think you live a very, very real life. And I

452
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: think also because I know you personally, you wouldn't have

453
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: it any other way. But to me, you seem so peaceful,

454
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: calm and wise. But I think part of that comes

455
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: from so much experience and wisdom of like trial and

456
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: error within yourself, if that makes sense.

457
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to burst the bubble of all the

458
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: amazing things you just said.

459
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: But but I'm not a piece no.

460
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Speaker 4: Example of.

461
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: This is such an example too of like where like

462
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: our perception too of my gosh, well.

463
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 4: I don't I don't share a lot of like personal.

464
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm very private, and so because of that, you know,

465
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: we let people in on a side of ourselves that

466
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: I mean not to get too real here, but it's

467
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: just like who I am. But we let people in

468
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: on the side of ourselves that we feel connected to,

469
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 2: but also a side of ourselves that we aspire.

470
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 4: To lean into.

471
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: And sure, you know, and the truth of the matter is,

472
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: my life is so chaotic that I trade that piece

473
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 2: and that like and I want to manifest that and

474
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 2: call it in. And so in those moments where I

475
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: have that tranquility or that clarity or that piece, I

476
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: maybe share, you know, snippets of that. But like, I

477
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: always laugh thinking about what life actually looks like. Like

478
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 2: my office right now, well, I guess it looks pretty.

479
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 4: Peaceful behind me because you can't see anything going on that.

480
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: But you know, I work sixteen hours a day, I'm

481
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: working seven days a week.

482
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: I'm in the grind. I'm an entrepreneur. I'm running two companies.

483
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: I mean I'm running one company and I'm a co

484
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: founder of another, which is you know, essentially, you know,

485
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 2: you're in the grind even if I'm not running it.

486
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: I'm in the grind.

487
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

488
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: And then I work with other companies and I have

489
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: other jobs because I don't pay. You know, when you're

490
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur, you're not paying yourself through your companies. And

491
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: so then you wake up one day and you go,

492
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: wait a second, I've got six jobs. I'm juggling, and

493
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 2: I didn't even learn how to juggle, so how do

494
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: I do this? And then I do a really good

495
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: job sometimes of saying that's it.

496
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: I need a moment. I'm going to turn off my phone.

497
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: I don't care that I've got seven thousand emails that

498
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 2: are coming in, because I don't like the feeling of

499
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 2: I have to catch up when I wake up in

500
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: the morning and catch up when I go to sleep

501
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: at night. We're never caught up, Like I hate the

502
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 2: hamster wheel and I hate feeling anxious, and so then

503
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: I just sort of like wash my hands and say

504
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: that's it. I'm shutting down for a second. And those

505
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: are the moments that maybe you see because I'm not

506
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 2: necessarily like putting the grind out there, but you know,

507
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: I'm so in the grind and I crave that that

508
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: piece now.

509
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: I feel it though I feel it in your writing.

510
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: Though I feel it. I do because here's the thing,

511
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: this is how I perceive it. Like if I didn't

512
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: know you, what I would perceive is she's very private,

513
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: but she's basically telling us very calmly. Her life is mental.

514
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: Everyone's sick in the house. She's been in a set

515
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: grind for three weeks. She's juggling multiple businesses that she's

516
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: trying to build or investing in, also trying to live

517
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: out her passions, also trying to be a good wife,

518
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: also trying to be good to herself. But then you

519
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: find those moments because I actually think that there is

520
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: a gift in being able to stop, because that is,

521
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: to me, has always been the absolute biggest challenge. And

522
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: then when I stop, it's because I got really sick

523
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: or like, you know, something happened, and so I think

524
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: it's sort of like I know what you're doing because

525
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: I live what you're doing, and so I get it.

526
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think you've been able

527
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: to carve out in your life the you time for

528
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: because you know that for your mental and physical health.

529
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: And as a mother, we have to do that right,

530
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: like we have to.

531
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 4: Do Did you get really sick?

532
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: I did, And I'm just just before I had my

533
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: first son. I I was working twenty hours a day,

534
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: seventays a week for what fifteen years straight without a break,

535
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: no weekends, no whatever, missed everything important, and then I

536
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: got vertigo, very very serious vertigo for like a full year,

537
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: like I couldn't drive a car.

538
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: I had vertigo that year for four months.

539
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, it's I do.

540
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 4: That's I was wondering what you were went through. Yeah,

541
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 4: you know, it's the body.

542
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: So there's a reason why statistically, women get autoimmune.

543
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 4: Diseases at a far greater rate than men do. And

544
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: there's a reason why, you know, So the body.

545
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: The body talks right loudly, and we think about like disease, Well,

546
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: it kind of starts as a whisper.

547
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 4: Yes, and we don't listen no, And it starts.

548
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: By saying like, you know, hey, chill, you know you

549
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: you've been getting you know, colds a little bit more frequently,

550
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: or maybe you've got some insomnia.

551
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: Or that's where you've got this like lower back pain

552
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 4: and you can't put your finger on.

553
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: Exactly what it is, or digestive problems or whatever it is.

554
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: The body starts to whisper and then we don't listen, right,

555
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: that's part of it.

556
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 4: Then it gets louder, and then it gets louder.

557
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: And then you wake up one day with debilitating vertigo

558
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: as you did for a year, and you don't know

559
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: where to turn, and it's the most humbling thing. Yes,

560
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: to be brought to your knees literally with no option

561
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: except to listen.

562
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: Ye, and you know, I've been in that moment.

563
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: So it's really like the it's very the timing right

564
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: now is really it's not lost on me. Oh yeah,

565
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: where I go? How much can you grind? How much

566
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: can you be in it? How do we set women

567
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: up in this society to have you know, it's interesting

568
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: like you look at the evolution of you know, the

569
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: woman's journey in society and the home and how that's

570
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: been sort of redefined, and how we went from one

571
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: end of you know, this pendulum to the other with

572
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: you know, working and careers and being career driven and

573
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: all that's amazing, And then you have this burning desire

574
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: to be fully career driven and also be a fully

575
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: devoted parent and a fully devoted partner, and you start

576
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: looking at all the hats you're wearing.

577
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 4: And then the thing that's happened.

578
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: Is that we really glorified that because no one has

579
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: wanted to kind of like stand up and go wait

580
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: a sec.

581
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: But is this help? Like are we healthy?

582
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: Also at the same time because it if of course

583
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: it feels good to be able to do it all

584
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: and in many ways. Women are sort of built in

585
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: designed to you know, I meaning me.

586
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: Birth damn it by the way exactly.

587
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: So we're designed sometimes to be able to just keep

588
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: things together that keep the home together, keep the you know,

589
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: kids are sick for you know, their coming to mama

590
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: and you're sick. You're still a mama and you're still

591
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: showing up to work and you're still so at some point,

592
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: I do hope that the conversation shifts to just a

593
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: gentle landing place for women to say, hey, can I

594
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: do it all? And is it okay if I can't?

595
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: You know, like, where does that land does it have

596
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: to be? When we wake up with you know, an

597
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: autoimmune disease.

598
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: Or debilitating vertigo or whatever it may be.

599
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: So it was interesting because I was calling all of

600
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: my doctors and granted I was, you know, like three

601
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: months two three months postpartum when my vertigo started, and

602
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 2: it was like a massive hormone shift anyway, so they

603
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: were trying to figure out, you know, what it was.

604
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: But I was having my blood drown and.

605
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: They're like, but your hormembones are pretty balanced and how

606
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: are you feeling otherwise? And I'm like, well, is that

607
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: a real question because there's a lot going all.

608
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't take off work. You know.

609
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: In my first I was like, Okay, I can really

610
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: do this, and so I don't. I don't feel like

611
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: I need to. So with my second I had that

612
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: you know, humbling moment of being like, well, what is

613
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: going on in our country where we're not setting up

614
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: women for success by giving them, you know, the paid

615
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: leave that they deserve and the support system that they deserve,

616
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: and we don't set them up with you know nutrition,

617
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: you know, nutritional foundation or you know free and paid

618
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: for doulah care or postpartum care or any support system

619
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: at all.

620
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: Actually and wild West for us there.

621
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: It's yeah, I mean, you know, hello, United States of America,

622
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: we have a lot.

623
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: To improve in this area.

624
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: Like how are we having this conversation when you look

625
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: at other countries that give people six months both partners

626
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: by the way, mother and father of paid time off

627
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: and a support system and access to a midwife or

628
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 2: a doula to help you transition into what is not

629
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: only the most important journey of you know, your lifetime

630
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: or one of let's say I consider it to be

631
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: the most important journey in my lifetime, but not only that,

632
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: we're not thinking about the societies that we're building as

633
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: a result of not having that care. When you have

634
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: a mother that doesn't have that support, that obviously is

635
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: trickled down into whether it's through literally the levels of

636
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: cortisol in her body that's being transferred through breast milk

637
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: into your baby, or whether it's just the sort of

638
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: emotional fragility and that, you know, and women going back

639
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: to work and you know, babies, you know, not having that,

640
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: you know, the time that they deserve with their mother,

641
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: and mother's not having the time they.

642
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 4: Deserve with their babies.

643
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: Anyway, I just feel like there's so much to be

644
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: said about ambition and also about the you know, that

645
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 2: side of things and how much we put on our plates.

646
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: And how much is expected of us as women.

647
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: But then at the same time, just looking at you know,

648
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: this country and society and how we have not been

649
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: able to set women up for success in their journey

650
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 2: into motherhood and then you know the result of that.

651
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: And I think, I you know, and it's hard to

652
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: say because I think some people try to give us

653
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: grace and we don't take it. I think it's I

654
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: think it's both, Like I think I think there's I

655
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: think there's a guilt that we carry about, like oh no, no,

656
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: I got this, I got this. No no, no, I

657
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: can do both. I can totally do both. And then

658
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: to your point, it's societal. It's like, why at what

659
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: point do we feel it's okay to say, okay, guys,

660
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: we actually can't do it all? Right, Like, and is

661
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: that okay too? Because my friend, very successful friend who

662
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: founded Netta Porte, Like literally she's one of my she's

663
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: like a magical human being, an incredible mother and all

664
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: the things. And you know, she has since like sold

665
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: it ten years ago and the whole thing, but has

666
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: gone on to do really big things. But she said

667
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: to me once, like, is it okay if we just

668
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: say we can't do it all? Because I actually think

669
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: that's okay. Why why is it okay that men don't

670
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: have to do it all? But we have to choose

671
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: to do it all or not have a career or

672
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: not have kids, or is it okay to yield on

673
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: one one day and one another day? You know? And

674
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: we had this real conversation about it, and it was

675
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: really fascinating to me because she's one of my greatest

676
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: like mentors, right, and so it's it's you know, there's

677
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: just people in your life where you fall on words, right,

678
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: you fall in what they say. And the way she

679
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: said it was so like matter of fact, but yet

680
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: felt like I don't I don't know. If I don't know,

681
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: I know, we no way, we do have to do

682
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: it all? What are you talking about? Like like you know,

683
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: and so I think it's just.

684
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 4: The conditioning, that's the conditioning. Yeah.

685
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: So, but I think what's important now is that we

686
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: can navigate our paths to not just what makes us

687
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: happy and fulfilled, that we live whatever our measure of

688
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: success is, right, but that you stay at this point

689
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: because I consider you to be in phase two or

690
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: phase three. God only knows. You've had a lot of phases.

691
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't know I'm in phase God, I don't know

692
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: what phase I'm in either, by the way, but you

693
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: still feel like you touch all the things, right. But

694
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: I feel like you've had to me you have. You

695
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: have so much wisdom for such a young person, like

696
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: you feel like you've lived a bunch of lives. But

697
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: I also feel, as you said, you're still a student

698
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: and you're very humble and very gracious. But at the

699
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: same time, I feel like you're very clear on what's

700
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: important and drives you the most in your life. And

701
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: obviously we know that's kids and family, But you are

702
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: doing what makes you happy now, right, And so I

703
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: think you're creating businesses and supporting businesses that you so

704
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: firmly believe in, right, And but that does not protect

705
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: you from the insanity of being an entrepreneur. And it's

706
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, I want to talk about that for a

707
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: second because I always like to to sort of ask, like,

708
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: what are the things because again, there are common threads

709
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: with entrepreneurs. What are the things that scare you the

710
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: most in your work and what are the things that

711
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: sort of excite you the most? You know, like what

712
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: what are the things that you're like you go to sleep.

713
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 4: Like.

714
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: What if like I don't this isn't working. I'm not

715
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: sure people are understanding this. I'm not like or aren't

716
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: there those things.

717
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 4: That's think?

718
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: Well, I you know, I guess when you have your

719
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: head down and you're in the work, I try so

720
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: very hard to not let fear kind of like dictate

721
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: the past, because you almost have to like be blinded

722
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: to it a little bit, just so that you can

723
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: be crazy enough to continue to believe in your dreams,

724
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: right totally, But you know, with with buy you for example,

725
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: so I self fund the company. I've never taken a

726
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: dollar of outside money. And that might seem like an

727
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: easy thing to do if maybe somebody just assumes you

728
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: have so hard and sources. But let me just say,

729
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: like I you know, I have worked very very very

730
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: very hard. And whatever you see online, you know, when

731
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: you look at someone's net worth is not true. I

732
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: don't know if anyone knows that, but those numbers are

733
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: all just fabricated on Google.

734
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: The most ridiculous thing.

735
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 4: It's a ridiculous thing.

736
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: Like you can google what is someone's net worth and

737
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: it says some weird number that you go, well, I.

738
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 4: Wish that were I didn't even know what you're talking about.

739
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: So I work, and when I work and I get

740
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: paid from jobs, I self fund that money then funds

741
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: my business. And you know, I have to balance that,

742
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: right because I'm also responsible.

743
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 4: For a lot. I have a life that I.

744
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: Paid for, and I also you know, I take care

745
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 2: of and help of course you know, family and got

746
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: two children and so anyway, there's a lot of pressure,

747
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: and I suppose that could be one fear that continues

748
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: to pop up, is you know, making sure that you're

749
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: managing money properly as a woman. Because also another thing

750
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: like I'm not one to give unsolicited advice, but I

751
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: will just say right here that as a woman, if

752
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: there's one skill I wish that you know, someone had

753
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: just instilled in me at a young age, it's managing money.

754
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: And I had, you know, I learned that and I

755
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: learned it on my own. But I learned it by

756
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: being taken advantage of by not knowing how to read uh,

757
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: you know, bank statements and ledgers and accounts and quick

758
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: books and not knowing how to ask the questions or trusting,

759
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: you know, trusting people to help me do.

760
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: Things that you know, I should have done it myself.

761
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 4: And so I learned.

762
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: I would say I was fifteen years old when I

763
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: learned that lesson the hard way. And so that's one

764
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: thing for sure. So that's a fear. You know, I am,

765
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: I am the founder and also the CEO of my business,

766
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: and so I'm making a lot of big decisions.

767
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: You with love that I am behind plug plug.

768
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now Ian and I have launched the Absorption Company,

769
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: which I am so very excited about, and I.

770
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Speaker 1: Want to talk about that. I want to talk about that.

771
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: Well first, first rewind for one second, so buy you

772
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: with love. In case someone listening does not know about it,

773
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: it is a well I would like you to explain,

774
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: actually because I don't want to speak about it.

775
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: So we were the first jewelry company, to my knowledge,

776
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: that's my disclaimer, but the first jelly company to use

777
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: one percent recycled gold from recovered technology through our partnership

778
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: with Dell Dell Computers to make fine jewelry. So right

779
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: now we really specialize on bridle and engagement. That's sort

780
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: of our you know, our our passion area, if you will.

781
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: But you know, we have over three hundred pieces to

782
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: choose from, and it's certainly not all bridal right now

783
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: on the side alone, and we also have a really

784
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: nice selection of curated products from other female founders and

785
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: makers that's outside of the jewelry space. Just because of

786
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 2: what we spoke about earlier, I really believe in cross

787
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: pollinating and using any platform that I have, if you will,

788
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call that, saying that we've all

789
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: been working so hard to build to support other women

790
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: in their works.

791
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: So it's gorgeous.

792
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: We use diamonds that are grown with solar energy or

793
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: hydropowered diamonds. We offer the option to all of our

794
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: customers and clients and using repurposed and recycled metals. So

795
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: that is by you with love, and I will tell

796
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: you the level of joy and inspiration and creativity being

797
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: a part of a business that is quite literally involved

798
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: in the you know, the moment of like most potent

799
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: and pure love. It's such a joy to work with people,

800
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: with our clients who come to us at this amazing

801
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 2: moment in their life where they're about to get married,

802
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: and you're a part of that joy and you're a

803
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: part of People want to wear things that are a

804
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: reflection of their morals and their ethos and by you,

805
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: you know, when you're considering the planet and what you

806
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: wear and that becomes about you know, that's part of

807
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: your story. People no longer want to just wear things.

808
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: They want to wear things that they're proud of, that

809
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: are a reflection of who they are, that they want

810
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: to talk about in front of their future children, that

811
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: they're you know, dreaming about at that you know at

812
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 2: that table, and I it's just it's it's really I'm

813
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: so proud of our of our little company, and I

814
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: love being a small business, and I love the women

815
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: on our team. We have an amazing team of gosh

816
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: ten now and that's such an incredible feeling too, to

817
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 2: be a part of their story. So that is by

818
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: you with love. Thanks for asking, because you.

819
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 4: Have a good order. And I put on all my

820
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: sparkles for you today.

821
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: It's so good. Don't think I've been staring at your

822
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: necklace the whole time, by the way, I don't even

823
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: because sparkles.

824
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 4: I've got these for you. These are new round pieces,

825
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: and you love that.

826
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 2: I love the idea of like stacking things and being

827
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: able to kind of like add to this story, you know.

828
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 4: And so that's what this.

829
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: New Crown collection is all about, is like you can

830
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 2: keep adding to your story.

831
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: You know.

832
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous. It's getting higher and higher and higher.

833
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Pretty soon I see you and you're like,

834
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 4: it's here.

835
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: I can't bend my finger anymore. I can't. Okay, so absorption,

836
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: so tell me about that, because I recently got absorption

837
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: and there was no note and no anything and I

838
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, what is this. It's amazing.

839
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: I had no idea. And then I found out a

840
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: couple of days ago it was yours, and I was like,

841
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: well that makes perfect sense.

842
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: Oh no, that was a mistake. I'm so sorry about it.

843
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: Probably, Carol, I'll tell you about it here. So here

844
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: it comes. Okay, So the absorption company in a nutshell,

845
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: here we go. We have a piece of patented technology

846
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: that takes lipophilic material and turns it into a water

847
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: soluble powder. And I'll explain that in a second. And

848
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: then the process of that, the size of these nanometric

849
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: of these particles are reduced to nanometric particles.

850
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 4: And when you were.

851
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: Reduce the size of a particle, you actually increase the

852
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: surface area, making it five hundred percent more bioavailable.

853
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: So let's talk about that for a second.

854
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: I have been obsessed with absorption and bioavailability and bioaccessibility

855
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: for years because I like you.

856
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: And what you were talking about.

857
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I abs what do you call it? Bias?

858
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: Nanometric articles?

859
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: Nanometric articles? I think about them every night actually, But

860
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: tell me.

861
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: Was I was, you know, going through a sort of

862
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: mystery illness for a long time and was the I

863
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: was the sort of person that the marketplace targets for supplements, right, Like,

864
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: I bought everything under the sun and nothing worked. And

865
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: I was chasing and chasing solutions for the sort of

866
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: mystery illness that I had been experiencing for.

867
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: Over three years, and thing was working.

868
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: And so you know, when we came across this technology

869
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: and our co founders that we partnered with that own

870
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 2: this technology, this was the first AHA moment for me

871
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: where I went.

872
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 4: We need we need people to absorb what they take.

873
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you know this, but you

874
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: pee out over eighty percent of your supplements that you

875
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: and that is actually it's actually higher than that, so

876
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 2: that's a sort of conservative number. And that was shocking

877
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: to me. And I was like, wait a second. So

878
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm being marketed to all day long because I'm desperate

879
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: to find a solution and none of it is working.

880
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: Okay, then we're going to create it. And so now

881
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 4: we have this amazing opportunity to take you.

882
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: Know, to actually build out through this through our specific

883
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: ingredient list and using this proprietary technology to create and

884
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: increase this this increased bioavailability which is five x it's

885
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: five percent more bioaccessible.

886
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 4: This is this is the solution.

887
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: And I just I believe that people deserve to feel good.

888
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: I want to feel good.

889
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: It's so simple, but yet it's really not.

890
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 4: It's really not simple.

891
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: I mean we're being sold things all day long that

892
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: don't work, and really that's frustrating to me. Like I

893
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 2: work hard, and I want the money that I am

894
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: spending on things to work.

895
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: I want it so expensive, by the way, like even.

896
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: Supplement right, So the beauty of like like let's take

897
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Speaker 2: for example, I mean I have stuff on my desk

898
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: because I already have you know, things out, so let's

899
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: just open like well, I'm drinking calm right now, by

900
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 2: the way. But restore, which is like you know, if

901
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Speaker 2: you're looking at like a hydration so like here's our restore.

902
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: You go.

903
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: So if you're looking at like what would be in

904
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: a typical you know, hydration stick, and you're thinking about okay,

905
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: electrolytes and you know, magnesium, and then you're looking at

906
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: our restore and you've got you know, uh, cap soil vita,

907
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: so that's our technology that that capsule is our proprietary technology.

908
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: And then you've got full ads so you've got B vitamins,

909
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: you've got methyical bollom, and you've got an iasin, you've

910
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: got magnesium, you have of course sodium potassium. But then

911
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: you have things like alpha GPC which is good for

912
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: cognitive function, and you have liposomal glutacion and co Q

913
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: ten and you're thinking about this and in order to

914
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Speaker 2: put this packet together, I would have to buy a

915
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: liquid ivy and then I would have to buy a

916
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: you know, like a liposomal vitamin C packet.

917
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about that in one second. And what

918
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 4: that is.

919
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: You would have to put together ten packets into one

920
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: and you'd be spending fifteen dollars a stick.

921
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 4: Who can afford to do that? So we've created it's

922
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 4: like an all in one.

923
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: All of our supplements are actually multi use case. So

924
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: it's not just okay, great, take this and you're getting

925
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: a vitamin C boost. We wanted these to be, you know,

926
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 2: for multi use case. So that is the Absorption Company.

927
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 4: And you know lipoxyla.

928
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: Have you ever taken or tried to give your kids

929
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: like like glue to scion or anything.

930
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: It's like that.

931
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: It's kind of like jet like kind of so it's

932
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: bound to a fat So that's what that lipophilic.

933
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: Have you ever like squeezed a goopy to yourself?

934
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: Have you listened to yourself? Ladies and gentlemen. Nikki has

935
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: just become a full doctor. She has She has gone

936
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: from acting to jewelry designer to uh Now, I don't

937
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: want to call you doctor because I know You're going

938
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: to get all defensive about that, but I feel like

939
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: you are your passionate health and wellness authority, who is.

940
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 4: Wear that crown?

941
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it, but I'm definitely I'm climbing

942
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: and heels. I'm giving you the crown, okay, because this

943
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: is my pod and I can crown.

944
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: You can't two o'clock in the morning and still reading

945
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: medical journals and I have for the last decade.

946
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 4: And it's really my passion area. That is true.

947
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: But I don't know that I'm gonna, you know, authoritative

948
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: figure or a teacher, because I'm a student forever. But

949
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: just going on it really quickly, it's almost impossible to

950
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 2: get those things even into our children because and even

951
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: for ourselves, like to take leposomal supplements, it comes in

952
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: a goo and then you put it in the bottom

953
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: of your you know, it goes into water and then

954
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: you kind of have to take it like a shot,

955
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: and it's sort of like swallowing like an egg yolk,

956
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: Like you just have to like get it down. You

957
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: are talking to the about exactly, which is why you

958
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: love these because we can take that lipophilic material and

959
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: we can actually turn it into a water soluble powder.

960
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna I mean, you need a lot

961
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 4: more water.

962
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: Than this, but just to give you an example, so

963
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: like you open a pack and then you pour like

964
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 2: it's a powder, right, and then you stir which I

965
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: don't have a spoon or anything, you like blend.

966
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: It with ice and make it like a frozen thingy

967
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: you can.

968
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: But it's delicious without that. Because I was.

969
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: Going to ask you does this because that's all the matter.

970
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 4: Want to if you wanted a mocktail out of this.

971
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 2: My favorite thing is like you could put like a

972
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: little sparkling water and a sprig of mint on top,

973
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: and you've got a mocktail and it's delicious.

974
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 4: But it's delicious without it. Sure if you want to.

975
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: You can with like gin or like some champagne or

976
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: like totally can I feel like a nice feeling, like

977
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm dreaming these.

978
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: I I am so addicted.

979
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: I it's one thing to make something that you believe in,

980
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: and then it's another thing to make something that you

981
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: believe in that's also just so damn good that.

982
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: You actually just like want to drink it because I

983
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: actually would love it. I actually would love it. And

984
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: so I'm going to do whatever you tell me.

985
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 4: Right now?

986
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: Where is it I do? It's in my house, but

987
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: I can't If I leave, then I can't talk to you.

988
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: But when I went back, but when we're done, when

989
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: we're done, no, I drink.

990
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 4: Tea, Okay, So I'm not.

991
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: I gave up all caffeine Jesus coffee five years ago

992
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 2: because I was tired of like the crash.

993
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 4: I was like on five cups a day, and who

994
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: wants to do that?

995
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: And then I went to a really strong tea and

996
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,479
Speaker 2: that's right. I'm just replacing one, sure another, and sure so.

997
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: But minus the acid. When you do tea instead of coffee,

998
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:16,479
Speaker 1: it's okay.

999
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: Then today you're going to take the energy. Yeah, I

1000
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: mean that is true. Although we can talk about coffee

1001
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: quality and why it feels so acidic in your body

1002
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: but if you take the energy supplement today, I want

1003
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 2: immediate feedback from you because you will not have a

1004
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: spike and a crash because it's a balanced profile. So

1005
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 2: you have nanometric caffeine and then you have natural caffeine

1006
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: from from uh.

1007
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: Uh, so I can have these every day coffee.

1008
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 4: Sorry, I was having a brain far.

1009
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: But you can also like look at this whole profile

1010
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 2: of like balancing this out where you've got like even

1011
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: trip to fan that's like my favorite part of our caffeine,

1012
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: of our energy supplements, that you've got caffeine and trip

1013
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: to fan, so you're sort of like in this coasting space,

1014
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: you know, trip to Fannas.

1015
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it makes you sneapy. So so allegedly that's

1016
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: the thing I talk about on Thanksgiving.

1017
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 2: Right Thanksgiving, right, Yeah, that's where you hear that it's true,

1018
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: but it's actually just it has a calming property. So

1019
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: you're balancing out your caffeine with your calming properties, and

1020
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 2: it makes this like I'm telling you, Rachel, I'm not

1021
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: even I'm not even kidding. Every when you launch a

1022
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: company and it's you know there's a public figure component

1023
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: to it, maybe you expect there to be just sort

1024
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: of some kind of I don't know, just oh no,

1025
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: well yeah, maybe that too. That's funny that you say that,

1026
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: but I was saying yes, But I was saying although

1027
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: Ian and I are like, so the real deal in this.

1028
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: Oh please you don't listen. I'll take anything you tell

1029
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: me to take, anything you or Ian tells me to

1030
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: buy or take, or I will do it. Because you're

1031
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: the healthiest, slicking person. Your skin is dewey, You're all glowy.

1032
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: You like ride horses in a field, you like do

1033
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: all these things that are in nature, and like, to me,

1034
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: you are this very real. You are living authenticity of

1035
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: your brand and all the things that you stand behind

1036
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: and support. And I think listen for better or for worse.

1037
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing about building a brand, right,

1038
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: it has to be true to you. Right, So for

1039
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: all the ridiculousness of myself, it's like I am who

1040
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: I am? Right? Like, so this new mob wife thing,

1041
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, mob wife, why is this getting a title? Now?

1042
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: Like I've been dressing this crazy for my whole life.

1043
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm so confused, But okay, I'm here for it. But

1044
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: this mob wife is totally going to be done with

1045
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: this podcast and go drink restore or whichever one you

1046
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: tell me to drink, and then I'm going to text

1047
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: you and be like, I'm going for a hike now

1048
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: because I feel like a new person. I believe whatever

1049
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: you tell me. I do, because I also don't think

1050
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: you'd ever lie about anything to save your life. So

1051
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: so there's that.

1052
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: I mean, it is of all the things that get

1053
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: sort of thrown, you know, in the space of like

1054
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: can you endorse this or can you And the answer

1055
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: nine times out of ten, honestly is no. For me,

1056
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: Like any of the any of the sort of brand

1057
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: you know, deals that you don't see are all things

1058
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: that these are products that I actually and absorb is

1059
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: my company. So that's not what I'm referring to. But

1060
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 2: I'm saying anything else you ever seen share a post, Yes,

1061
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: it's because I've actually found that brand or that company.

1062
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: I'm already using them, researching, then using, and then I'm

1063
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: reaching out to the company and saying, Hi, I'm I'm

1064
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: a customer.

1065
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 4: Do you want to work together? That's how that goes.

1066
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 4: It's not the other way around.

1067
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: Like I'm never sitting there going sure, why don't you

1068
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: pay me to talk?

1069
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: About something.

1070
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: It just that's not how I can do business because genuinely,

1071
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: in this space, especially in the health and wellness space,

1072
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: this is like my this is my whole area of passion.

1073
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, as you can probably tell listen it.

1074
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: You know, my team makes fun of me. It's like

1075
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: if someone says like, oh, how would you wear this?

1076
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: And somehow or another, like forty minutes later, I have

1077
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: an answer of the pot because it's like what it's

1078
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: it's sort of you're not thinking, it's it's what comes

1079
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: out of your head and your soul, because it's what

1080
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: you know and and really want to share with other

1081
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: people and believe in so much, right, I mean.

1082
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it goes back to what you were talking

1083
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: about a second ago too, just with like how how

1084
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: to build a business and areas of education and all

1085
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: these things and how what that intersection is. Firstly, I

1086
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: think that we the best and most successful businesses come

1087
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: from a place, from a real story.

1088
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1089
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: And when you are living and breathing that story and

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Speaker 2: then you create some thing out of the necessity from

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Speaker 2: that story, from.

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Speaker 4: Your your life journey or that area of passion.

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Speaker 2: Then there's bound to be other people that are experiencing

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Speaker 2: the need or the want for that too, because it's

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Speaker 2: your real story and humans all have very similar.

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Speaker 4: Stories as your life.

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Speaker 2: It's true, we're all having the same experience with different circumstances,

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Speaker 2: you know, in different areas, but it's the human journey.

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Speaker 4: So there's that.

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Speaker 2: And then also just back to education for a second.

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Speaker 2: Childhood learning is so beautiful because you know, we're now

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Speaker 2: society where we've put everybody into this kind of.

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Speaker 4: Like cookie cutter, mold and box, right, the same curriculum here.

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Speaker 2: Every child has to learn at the same pace, learn

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Speaker 2: the same curriculum, and then what become the same human?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how.

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Speaker 2: Everybody has a different way of experiencing and learning in

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Speaker 2: that sense. And so childhood learning is so beautiful because

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Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this a lot lately, which is

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Speaker 2: like like Mozart, Like, how do you think Mozart would

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Speaker 2: have done if we had like decided that there was.

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Speaker 4: Like standardized learning and curriculum or.

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Speaker 2: Sign we we people get to become their genius and

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Speaker 2: realize their genius when we as parents or friends or

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00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 2: you know, or you know in the in our communities

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Speaker 2: see that there is an area of passion and then

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Speaker 2: we allow people to lean into that. And we have

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Speaker 2: to do that with our kids, and we have to

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Speaker 2: do that with our friends, and we have to do that,

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Speaker 2: you know. Just I think that that's a really important

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Speaker 2: thing because you know, we're born with whatever our maybe

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Speaker 2: our gifts are, and then we have to nurture those gifts.

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Speaker 2: And maybe that person that has that gift is never

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Speaker 2: going to you know, like excel and like.

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Speaker 4: Because they yeah, because their brain is in it. You know,

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Speaker 4: they were meant to be, you know, a structural engineer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we have to figure out how to recognize

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Speaker 2: that and then give them the gift of that support.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I mean it's my it's my greatest wish

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Speaker 1: as I've been raising two kids now ten and almost thirteen,

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Speaker 1: that all of this country and beyond starts to recognize

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Speaker 1: that every child is gifted and every child has a superpower.

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Speaker 1: And that's not how we grew up. We grew up

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Speaker 1: in this like you learn math at this at this age,

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Speaker 1: you learned this this, This is what you learn in

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Speaker 1: fourth grade. This sweet It's the most insane archaic system

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Speaker 1: and that is not reality. And I think we're seeing

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Speaker 1: and again it goes back to the pandemic of like

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Speaker 1: seeing what our kids actually are, right because we had

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Speaker 1: them at home for learning. And I think that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, and so I think that as adults we

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Speaker 1: can navigate our path now, right, but as kids you

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01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: have people navigating it for you. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: now up to as.

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Speaker 2: A system also navigating it for you, not just a

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01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: system one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: But I think that you've now in your different phases

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Speaker 1: and in your life now I want to know. I

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01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: think what, like, what are you most excited about now?

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Speaker 1: And like what like what's next for Nikki? Although you

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Speaker 1: have twelve businesses, so like I feel like what like

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Speaker 1: I feel like now you have to just like because

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Speaker 1: you're so impressive and you're so real deal and you're

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01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: all the good things, but you also are doing the juggles.

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Speaker 1: So I think you know what's like what is sort

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Speaker 1: of the thing that is You're like, Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: this is giving me total happiness and peace now, and

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Speaker 1: this is what I'm excited for going forward or do

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Speaker 1: you just try and live in this minute and be

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Speaker 1: like I'm freaking now, Like I don't know, this is

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Speaker 1: this is what's happening right now and tomorrow we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a combo both. I'm definitely in I'm

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Speaker 2: living in the moment. You know, every second that goes by,

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Speaker 2: you know, things shift and change, and I'm learning to

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Speaker 2: be you know, to surrender to that. And that's the

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Speaker 2: greatest lesson of life is surrendering slow.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: But I think what I'm most excited about right now

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Speaker 2: is honestly building building businesses that are good for the world,

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Speaker 2: that are good for people, that can hopefully you know,

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Speaker 2: I have impact attract Yeah, yes, yes, building businesses with

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Speaker 2: impact and you talk about that.

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Speaker 4: You know, triple bottom line, you know, people, planet, and

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Speaker 4: profit and kind of in.

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Speaker 2: That order, right, It's like building businesses that that encourage, uh,

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Speaker 2: a better society, better individuals, better homes, and doing them

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Speaker 2: in a way that's the least harmful to the environment

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Speaker 2: that we possibly can, and then hopefully at the end

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Speaker 2: of it all, being able to support your you know,

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Speaker 2: support your family through.

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Speaker 4: But like that is, you have to live.

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01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 2: But like people plan it and then profit and and

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Speaker 2: I really just like I've got no I feel like global.

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Speaker 4: I think I borrowed that. I definitely brow it's a

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Speaker 4: good one, but you.

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Speaker 2: Know that is all that I that I could hope for,

1187
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: is to be a part of something that maybe you know,

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Speaker 2: is able to impact society and and and move you know,

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Speaker 2: move people in a different way than I was before.

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Speaker 1: It worked for me. It totally worked for me.

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Speaker 4: We're time to get to look showering me in compliments.

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Speaker 1: No, but I mean it. It's I mean it. I

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Speaker 1: mean it because I wouldn't have you on if I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I think you are as real as they come. I

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Speaker 1: just love and adore you, and I'll take anything you

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Speaker 1: tell me too. Don't wear anything you tell me. Yes, Actually,

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Speaker 1: I swear I'm literally going to do that right now

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Speaker 1: because I could really use a boost. I did not

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Speaker 1: sleep less.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want you to take the energy and I

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Speaker 2: want you to write me in thirty years.

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Speaker 1: I am. I love you madly. Give me in a

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Speaker 1: hugg and a kiss for me. It's that time in

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Speaker 1: the show and I answer to listener questions. So let's

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Speaker 1: see what we have today. Okay, what app on your phone?

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01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: Do you spend the most time on? Ooh, good question.

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Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed. Instacart, Amazon, honestly with my kids, doc X

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01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: and goat. Oh, my god, I have so many apps, ways, photos, Starbucks,

1209
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: and then Goop for dinner. Okay, hope that answers the question.

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Speaker 1: Can't pick just one. What shows are you looking forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing from Paris Fashion Week? Oh? So many? Always

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01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: Jean Bautista Valley is always a favorite, Valentino Chanel, so many, honestly,

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Speaker 1: but those are probably some of my top three, I

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Speaker 1: would say. Okay, so don't forget to submit your questions

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Speaker 1: for next week's episode. All you have to do is

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01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: dm us your questions to at Clemion Hills Pod on

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01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: Instagram and I may just answer your question. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much to my friend Nikki for being on the

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Speaker 1: pod today. She is so extraordinary. She's so incredibly positive,

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Speaker 1: but she's also vulnerable, and she's also real. But I

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Speaker 1: would say that she has really tackled so many things

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Speaker 1: in her life that she probably was very apprehensive about.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's really difficult, especially as a woman,

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Speaker 1: to pivot from being something so public and so recognized

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Speaker 1: and so endeared by so many people, and going from

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Speaker 1: a very very public career to something that is also

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Speaker 1: incredibly creative. But as she talks about, is a continuous

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Speaker 1: student of her life and all the things she does

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Speaker 1: in it at this point, everything from being a mom,

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Speaker 1: a CEO, a founder, and entrepreneur and all of the

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Speaker 1: fears and challenges and excitement that comes with it. But

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Speaker 1: I will say that one thing I will always stand

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Speaker 1: behind with very successful women is that you have to

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Speaker 1: be authentic. You have to be authentic to who you are,

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Speaker 1: to what your brand is, to what you stand four

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01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: and sort of live, eat, and breathe. But Nicky's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I'm so impressed with her. I could have spoken to

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Speaker 1: her for hours and hours and hours. I hope you

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01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 1: loved this episode as much as I did, and check

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Speaker 1: out Nikki's incredibly beautiful jewelry line by You with Love

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01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: and now her latest venture Absorb, which I will be

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Speaker 1: drinking in the next twenty minutes. And don't forget to

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01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: write a review. Wherever you get your podcasts, I love

1244
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: reading them, and while you're at it, follow me on

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01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: at Rachel Zoe and at Climbing Inhales pod on Instagram

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01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: for more updates and upcoming guests, episodes, and all things carator.

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Speaker 1: I will see you next week.