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Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, a big day for the roster. Here at

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on

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Speaker 2: One Bills Live here on a Tuesday. Glad you could

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Speaker 2: make it in and join us. We'll be here till

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Speaker 2: three and uh plenty to get to. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of reports flying around out there, not much confirmed by

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Speaker 2: the Bills themselves. We can get into any and all

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Speaker 2: of it at your leisure and you can let us

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Speaker 2: know what you think. Steve right off the bat, so

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Speaker 2: right before we came on the air, I was talking

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Speaker 2: to Steve, who I've tried to indoctrinate.

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Speaker 3: As a soccer fan.

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Speaker 2: And we all know that Lionnel Messi has basically taken

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Speaker 2: over MLS since he joined into Miami. And I saw

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Speaker 2: this on social media a couple of days ago and

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Speaker 2: I just made him aware of it. So Messi is

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Speaker 2: like the Pope of soccer, like global guy. He's like

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Speaker 2: Muhammada a li level in terms of recognition.

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Speaker 3: Around the world.

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Speaker 2: And naturally people with that level of popularity and acclaim

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Speaker 2: need a bodyguard because you got some Yahoo's out there

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Speaker 2: that want to try to do stupid stuff. We just

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Speaker 2: saw the Braves outfielder yesterday, Ronald Kunya get bum rushed

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Speaker 2: by two fans that ran into the outfield last night

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Speaker 2: at the Braves game. So he's got a bodyguard, as

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Speaker 2: you would expect, but not just any bodyguard. Steve the

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Speaker 2: best deserves the best. So it's a former US soldier

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Speaker 2: served in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's a Navy seal, skilled

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Speaker 2: in jiu jitsu, mixed martial arts, boxing, in like three

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Speaker 2: other disciplines and just you just look at this guy

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Speaker 2: and you're like, yeah, that's bodyguard materials. Now, that's most

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Speaker 2: the thing that's most amazing to me. During the games,

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Speaker 2: he is literally two feet off the sideline just patrolling,

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Speaker 2: and whatever side of the field he's on, he will

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Speaker 2: an incident where a fan came on wanted to get

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Speaker 2: like a selfie during a game on the field with Messi.

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Speaker 2: He runs onto the field and this guy heads him

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Speaker 2: off twenty feet before he's even close to touch or

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Speaker 2: you know, let alone reach to take a photo, and

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Speaker 2: then security, you know that's usually at the game, shows

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Speaker 2: up about twenty seconds later. I mean, this guy is

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Speaker 2: on it like white on rice. Anybody that wants to

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Speaker 2: take a picture with him, you know, where they walk

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Speaker 2: into the stadium, they try to put their arm around him.

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Speaker 3: Yep, you're not doing that. Get your arm off him.

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Speaker 1: Like nobody brushes. He brushes their hand off from so

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Speaker 1: they can't like, look call chummy chummy with it.

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Speaker 2: Is unbelievable, but that's what you gotta have. Like, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of whack jobs out there. You don't know

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Speaker 2: what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: People are crazy.

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Speaker 3: Guy's too valuable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're crazy.

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Speaker 2: I was amazing just seeing the guy in action. Though

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Speaker 2: it's kind of cool, but I was just so good

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Speaker 2: at it, you know. I was just surprised see him

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Speaker 2: have to be there? I would guess, you know.

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Speaker 1: Right, And I mean he looks like I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: he's credentialed and all that. But and MESSI said, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'll do this, but I'm my guy over here, because

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Speaker 1: it would happen all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm guessing it's his guy, right, not the team.

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Speaker 2: The team probably isn't didn't pay for that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: No, I imagine that's on him. That's Messi's dime. But I'm

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure, I mean, who do you like?

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Speaker 3: How much do you think that guy?

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Speaker 1: You go online and say, hey, I'm looking for a guy,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there are high level people they can give

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Speaker 1: Yeah recommendation, like here's hey, we got a guy and

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Speaker 1: here's his resume. It's the one you just read. Would

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Speaker 1: It's amazing it doesn't happen more because I guess nobody

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Speaker 2: But Enter Miami hired him, Okay, the team hired him,

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Speaker 2: oh to ensure Messi's safety, especially from potential field invaders.

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Speaker 1: That's great, which has right on the field that this guy,

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Speaker 1: a guy has no choice, a young kid has no choice.

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Speaker 1: And then like after he's like walking the guy off,

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Speaker 1: then you know, like nineteen security guys finally show up,

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Speaker 1: right and then so he comes back. So he understands

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Speaker 3: To back to watch it. And if there was a

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Speaker 1: Time, So yeah, that's that's he's on it. It's pretty

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Speaker 3: I just wonder how much a guy like that costs.

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Speaker 2: You're protecting an asset that's worth like three hundred undrellion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Three hundred bills, three hundred million bills. So hey, yeah, here's.

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Speaker 3: A guy like that. Call I'm ten percent. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: He's not hourly, he's not you know, I mean he

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Speaker 2: probably lives with him like right, like I don't know, like,

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Speaker 1: Sure there's room for him at the house. But I

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Speaker 3: The night kind of yeah, because he's I mean, he can't.

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Speaker 1: It's like what time, what time you're getting out tomorrow morning?

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Speaker 3: Got to have you know, people, other people.

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Speaker 1: The gate, you know, right, right, so a gate.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I wouldn't think, well, maybe if

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Speaker 1: my if the if the club hired, maybe they're saying, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: I gotta believe he's he's got to be up around

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Speaker 2: seven figures, right, Like I'm talking yearly.

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Speaker 1: So depends on the link of the contract.

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Speaker 2: Actually it's seasonal, so the season really only goes from

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Speaker 3: March to like, I don't know, what do you go October?

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Speaker 1: Where you think MESSI goes out of the country after

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Speaker 2: You I just wonder if he's hired for the season,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he's just a game Guy guy, Game day guy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just protecting club events. Maybe Messi's got his

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Speaker 3: It's it's just pretty cool to kind of see it

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Speaker 3: just in action, pretty neat.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's it's like watching an insurance policy work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in real time, in real time. It's yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: something else, it really is.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It was. It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: It's like protecting the Whope Diamond because that.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, you see the president and you know,

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Speaker 1: never see him have to do anything. Ron Reagan they

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Speaker 3: You know, if you get a chance, you.

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Speaker 2: Should just look up on YouTube like Messi's Bodyguard. It's

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Speaker 2: just kind of fun to watch them in action. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it's wild. But we got to talk about the

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Speaker 2: subject of the day, which obviously it's roster cutdown day

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Speaker 2: here in the NFL. Not an easy day for coaches

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Speaker 2: and even harder day for players, and the roster's got

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Speaker 2: to get down to fifty three by four o'clock. We know,

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Speaker 2: the only cuts that have been confirmed by the team

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Speaker 2: lot of others have been trickling out, and again none

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Speaker 2: of these confirmed by the team. But some of the

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting, to say the least, to see some

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Speaker 2: very fluid. Right, Because some people were asking me the

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Speaker 2: other day, Hey, Baile inspector suffered a hamstring injury. You know,

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Speaker 2: if it's severe, can't they just put him on IR

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Speaker 2: and save a roster spot for somebody else. Well that yes,

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Speaker 3: IR, now, he's done for the year.

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Speaker 2: So you would be more inclined in this particular example,

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Speaker 2: I would think to he's on your active fifty three,

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Speaker 2: him because then he's only out four weeks. It's I know,

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Speaker 2: it sounds like a silly designation, but that's just the

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Speaker 2: way they do it. You put someone on IR now

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Speaker 2: in the initial formation of your fifty three man roster

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Speaker 2: done for the year, as opposed to do it next

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Speaker 2: that has to go on. Either because of rules designations

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Speaker 1: The players are free to participate in those manipulations as well. So,

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Speaker 1: for instance, you go to a guy whoever, you pick

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Speaker 1: of ridiculousness, you say Josh Allen. So they say, Josh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna cut you, but we're gonna do it so

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Speaker 3: They did that with Reid Ferguson last year.

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Speaker 1: Right, so we can put player B. We can put

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown on our active roster, and then we're gonna

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Speaker 1: they we're gonna put Chris Brown on IR because he's

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Speaker 1: So and it makes sense too, And we saw this

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Speaker 2: Perhaps the most interesting thing about this is Bash him

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Speaker 2: Other trades, mostly in the NFL, have involved kickers, Steve.

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Speaker 1: And that also leaves New Orleans with an undrafted rookie

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Speaker 3: Kick at the end of the game. Two thousand and five, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Let it go, Brownie, let it go that that Monday

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Speaker 2: They also had another interception and they scored twenty three points.

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Speaker 1: he's thirty three. I had not thought about that, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right. It's it's about ten percent at least, that's

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Speaker 1: what it is in golf. It's about ten percent on

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Speaker 1: top of your clubs.

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Speaker 2: So it's oh, I'm sorry, he's going to Tennessee. I've

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Speaker 2: got it backwards. Now, I've got my kicker trades mixed up. No, no,

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Speaker 2: you're talking Will LUTs Good went to Denver?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Sorry, Oh, no, nine year old's going to Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my bad. I'm a douf.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to keep it's hard to keep track of that.

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Speaker 3: I'm mixing up my kicker trades.

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Speaker 2: Now, I was with you, though I was going I

448
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Speaker 2: was surprised the Broncos released Brett mar though. I mean

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Speaker 2: he was twenty nine to thirty two last year for

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: That's surprising to me. Eighty one percent kicker and you

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Speaker 3: cut them. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I was a little perplexed by that because that, I

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Speaker 2: mean that that's better than Bass did last year. Not

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Speaker 2: that Bass was bad, but that's right there with Actually

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Speaker 2: Bass was right there too, he was twenty eight or

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Speaker 2: thirty one or.

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Speaker 1: What is contracting? Maybe it's money.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to it's hard to get better when you

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Speaker 1: release good, good players.

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Speaker 3: It is it is, I get it.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, Brett Marer has been a pretty good

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Speaker 2: kicker in this league for a long time. But I

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Speaker 2: guess coaches have their preferences and that's why these things

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Speaker 2: happen sometimes. That is kind of an abbreviated look around

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Speaker 2: the NFL, presented by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. I'm trying to think if there's

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Speaker 2: anything else around the league that is noteworthy Concerning today's transactions,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we saw Cedric Wilson essentially take a pay

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Speaker 2: cut in Miami to stay there as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise he was going to get cut. That pay cut

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Speaker 2: is also being used as speculation right now because they're

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Speaker 2: saving three million in cab space by getting Cedric Wilson

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Speaker 2: to take a pay cut to stay, and they think

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Speaker 2: that's the extra cab space Miami's going to use to

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Speaker 2: complete the sign in trade for Jonathan Taylor. Now there

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Speaker 2: is supposedly a second team involved in trade discussions with

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Speaker 2: the Colts. I don't know if that's holding it up.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a.

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Speaker 3: Bidding war right now, but clearly Miami might be reworking

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Speaker 3: that contract to give them a little bit of space

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Speaker 3: to maybe push that trade over the finish line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, call me when it's over, Make me when it's over.

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Speaker 1: Showed me the baby, Yeah, I don't want to. Don't

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Speaker 1: care about the pain. Yeah, that doesn't bother me, Miami, Mate,

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Speaker 1: getting Jonathan Taylor doesn't bother It does not bother me.

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Speaker 1: Does not bother me. No, No, it would bother me,

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Speaker 1: and it hasn't happen John Taylor. If Jonathan Taylor was

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Speaker 1: as good a receiver as he is a running back.

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Speaker 3: That would bother me. Yeah, that's that's kind of the fold.

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Speaker 1: I hope they hand it to him thirty five times

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Speaker 1: a game.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of the fly in the ointment with his

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Speaker 2: skill set, Isn't it like he's not a he's not

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Speaker 2: a pass catcher at.

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Speaker 3: Least in the purest sense of the word.

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Speaker 1: He's not a martial fault kind of guy, exactly right.

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Speaker 1: So no or o Danian Tomlinson. But you know, the

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Speaker 1: guy can. The guy can get it done when.

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Speaker 2: You hand him and when he gets open space, it's over.

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Speaker 2: He's four three nine space.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes So I'm I'll just wake me when

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Speaker 1: it's over.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough.

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Speaker 1: That guy that this Miami thing and it goes on

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Speaker 1: on and I'll know I told you today, I said

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Speaker 1: it again today. Miami's plan this offseason was to get

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Speaker 1: to a new helmet and teach him how to take

510
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Speaker 1: a butt whooping. That was their plan. How to fall,

511
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Speaker 1: teach you how to fall, and then we'll get you

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Speaker 1: a new helmet and we're going to be good. Bro.

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Speaker 1: It's not as it doesn't work like that. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dalvin Cook, who was recently acquired by the Jets,

516
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Speaker 3: had his first practice with the team today in New York.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine it would be of the light variety.

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Speaker 2: A lot of these teams, as they're assembling their roster,

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Speaker 2: they do a conditioning kind of type workout with their

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Speaker 2: players today, and I would imagine that Jets probably did

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Speaker 2: something like that. But it's noteworthy because you know, he

522
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Speaker 2: had a off season shoulder surgery and there was a

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Speaker 2: ramp up period for Dalvin Cook to come back, and

524
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Speaker 2: so that process has now officially begun on the practice field.

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Speaker 2: So we'll keep our nose to the nose and ears

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Speaker 2: to the ground on that, knowing that it's Buffalo's first

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Speaker 2: opponent this season. So we'll see how his progress goes

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Speaker 2: through this week and obviously through next week as we

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Speaker 2: ramp up to the season opener on Monday Night.

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Speaker 3: Football Week. One topic of discussion for you today.

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Speaker 2: You saw the reports out there on Von Miller, you

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Speaker 2: saw the reports out there on Boogie Basham.

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Speaker 3: So the question for you today what.

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Speaker 2: Are your thoughts now on the Bills defensive line to

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Speaker 2: start the season. You can let us know at eight

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Speaker 2: oh three oh five point fifty one, eight eight eight,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty two, five point fifty. Those are the

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Speaker 2: numbers to call to get on board with us, or

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Speaker 2: you can hit us up on the tweet sheet at

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: It's it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think we were all anticipating some degree of change here,

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Speaker 2: knowing how fat they were at the end position, in

544
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Speaker 2: particular Steve, and we've seen movement on that front based

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Speaker 2: on the reported designation of von Miller to pup and

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Speaker 2: the reported trade of Boogie bashup to the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: So you let us know what are your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the Bills defensive line to start the season. We've got

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Speaker 2: about a full hour here to take your phone calls

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Speaker 2: on that subject, So way in at your leisure. Eight

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Speaker 2: oh threeho five point fifty one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 2: point fifty two, five point fifty open lines for you there,

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Speaker 2: Steve and I take a break, but back with your

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Speaker 2: phone calls. Next here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 2: Colida Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here

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Speaker 2: on One Bills Live on Roster Cutdown today, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. It's all awaiting the official list

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Speaker 2: from the team and discussing with you today, your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the Bills defensive line to start the season. Knowing

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Speaker 2: there are multiple reports out there that Von Miller will

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Speaker 2: begin the season on pup miss the first four games,

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Speaker 2: and the reports out there that Boogie Basham has been

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Speaker 2: traded to the Giants. You let us know at eight

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Speaker 2: O three zero five fifty one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two five point fifty or on the tweetsheet of

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Speaker 2: one Bills Live.

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Speaker 3: We lead off with Marie and Amhurst, what do you

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Speaker 3: got for us?

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Speaker 5: Marie, Hey, guys, So I'm just going on a little rint.

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Speaker 5: I'm a bit confused today by the decisions Brandon Beans making.

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Speaker 5: And I tried to listen to this show every chance

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Speaker 5: I get, because you guys are knowledgeable and amazing about

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Speaker 5: you know, the team I grew up loving and rooting for.

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Speaker 5: But when you constantly tell us fans that Brandon Beans

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Speaker 5: keep most guys around because they're veterans, that he can

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Speaker 5: trust them him and Sean, what happened today? Not saying

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Speaker 5: that this guy is just you know, Dean Marlow. He's older,

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Speaker 5: but he got a little bit left in the tank.

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Speaker 5: And you keep Damaire handling on the roster seems. And

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Speaker 5: I'm not insensitive in any way about Damar, but Dean

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Speaker 5: helped us in a wild Caire game versus the Dolphins

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Speaker 5: with the big interception. He reliable and you know Damar

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Speaker 5: he full of courage, but he've been missing tackles and

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Speaker 5: preseason looking hesitant at times. And if Dean don't want

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Speaker 5: to look like a bad guy, then see what damayro

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Speaker 5: Tray value is. I mean, we trying to win the

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl. We need guys that's really gonna push you

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Speaker 5: to the limit. Then you trade Boogie Vasham and there's

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Speaker 5: no way Greg Ruso, we should still be on his team.

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Speaker 5: We should have got something for him. Almost all of

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Speaker 5: his stacks come from his teammate pressure. You can go

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Speaker 5: back and look at the film. If you don't believe me,

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Speaker 5: he's you're gonna have to now line him up probably

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Speaker 5: in the middle next to Ed Oliver, but Shaq and

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Speaker 5: Leonard Floyd on the edge. Let them get out the

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Speaker 5: quarterback and special teams covers looking bad. The Raiders will

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Speaker 5: leased Jakline Johnson. Maybe go back and get him on

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Speaker 5: special teams and trade the Meyr. We need a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: We know we need a middle linebacker. I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: just a few things. And Jordan Meredith. If Jordan Meredith

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Speaker 5: he a young guard for the La rape No the

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Speaker 5: Vegas Raiders, he's the young guard. I think he can

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Speaker 5: help with the offensive line with Josh. I think he'll

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Speaker 5: jail real well with them.

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Speaker 6: But that's about it, all right, Marie.

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Speaker 3: More than a few things, Ma, he's got a list.

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Speaker 2: Look here's what I here's the way I look at

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Speaker 2: I'll take the Boogie Bashm and Dean Marlowe things. Because

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Speaker 2: there are reports out there that Dean Marlowe is not

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Speaker 2: going to make the roster. There are reports out there

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Speaker 2: that Boogie Basham has been traded to the Giants. Those

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Speaker 2: are two positions on this roster in which the Bills

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Speaker 2: enjoyed a sir plus of talent. And you're gonna you

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Speaker 2: obviously disagree with the team's assessment of that player. But

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Speaker 2: Boogie Basham, quite simply, in the eyes of the coaching

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Speaker 2: staff and the personnel department, was not going to make

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Speaker 2: this roster. So instead of just releasing him outright knowing

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Speaker 2: he does have talent, you know, just because a player

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Speaker 2: gets moved off a roster doesn't mean they're not a

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Speaker 2: good player, it just means they have more players that

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Speaker 2: are better than that guy. And in their estimation, that

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Speaker 2: was the case with Boogie Basham. You know, if in fact,

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Speaker 2: the you know, the trade report proves correct and instead

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Speaker 2: of letting him go for nothing, they found a willing

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Speaker 2: trade partner to at least get an asset in return

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Speaker 2: by moving him off the roster. Dean Marlow is a

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Speaker 2: guy that I can almost promise you is going to

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Speaker 2: be readily available if and when the Bills need him

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Speaker 2: in the event of injury. But again that's another position

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Speaker 2: of surplus. Think about how the position was strengthened this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Not only is Jordan Poyer back, which at the beginning

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Speaker 2: of this offseason seemed like it was not going to

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Speaker 2: be the case. A lot of people thought he was

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Speaker 2: gonna get top dollar on the free agent market and

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Speaker 2: not be back. They were able to re sign him.

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Speaker 2: So A Poyer's back in the fold. B Micah Hyde

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Speaker 2: is healthy off next surgery, and c you signed a

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Speaker 2: proven starter with a Super Bowl ring in Taylor Rap.

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Speaker 2: And that's before you even get to DeMar Hamlin or

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Speaker 2: Dean Marlow or Cam Lewis, who had a lights out

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Speaker 2: preseason the best of his career. So Dean Marlow unfortunately

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Speaker 2: is the odd man out in that equation. It's as

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Speaker 2: simple as that the Bills are keeping to the best

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Speaker 2: that they can. Roster designations may change a couple of

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00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: things in some of the decisions that they have to

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Speaker 2: make the best fifty three for their roster going forward.

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Speaker 3: And look, I like Dean Marlow as much as the

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Speaker 3: next guy. I call him. I call him, I call

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Speaker 3: him Dean from Queens because he's born in Queens just

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Speaker 3: like me.

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Speaker 1: Love the guy.

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Speaker 2: But these are the decisions that have to be made.

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Speaker 2: That that's where I come down on those two positions

654
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: of surplus.

655
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: And I and I don't. I think I disagree with

656
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: your take on Rousseau. I think he played. I think

657
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: he's a good player.

658
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: He's a very good player. I think he's gonna take

659
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: off this year.

660
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: Right offensive line, I'm not really I'm not buying into

661
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: the people clutching their pearls over the offensive line of

662
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: the Bills. I think they're deep, and I think they're talented,

663
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be really good.

664
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: If you didn't, if you weren't impressed by what you

665
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: saw from David Edwards last week against Chicago filling in

666
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: for too McGovern Uh.

667
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're you're certain about.

668
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: What you're watching, because he was lights out last week

669
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: against Chicago.

670
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 3: He was manhandling people.

671
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: So I'm yeah, so I'm uh yeah, you can. You can.

672
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: You can criticize, or you can pick your your players

673
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: you think they're better and all that, but me and

674
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: and you and anybody nobody has their job on the line,

675
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: like Brandon Bean Sean McDermott over roster construction. They've got

676
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: to they picked the guys that are gonna help them

677
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: win games. They right, they got to get it right,

678
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: and they have gotten it very right to this point

679
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: from when they took over this team, and I would

680
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: expect them to continue to and they have gotten all.

681
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: They haven't you know, hit a home runs every single year,

682
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: and they've got some things they're like going, oh, you know,

683
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: you rolling your eyes at or whatever. You can say

684
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: what you want, but they got they got a bunch

685
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: of guys that can really play. And uh, I don't

686
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: think this year is going to be do anything to

687
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: disprove the fact that they got They got a fifty

688
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: three man roster it's gonna win a ton of games.

689
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: So I'm I get it. You can you can pick

690
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: guys and you can that you like and you can't

691
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: believe that and all that. But man, these guys know

692
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: what doing I'm and they're the ones who see these

693
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: guys all day every day. So the meeting for us,

694
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: I think the biggest question for Brownie and I is

695
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: how they're going to keep as many of these guys

696
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: as they can on the practice squad and how they're

697
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: going to finagle the roster. As as it is. Who's

698
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: on the roster. They know better than me. I got

699
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: we always have our favorites, but when they picked somebody else,

700
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: I just assume, and I think rightfully, so they got

701
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: more information than I do.

702
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: Back to the phones into Ethan in Buffalo. Next, what

703
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: do you got for us? Ethan?

704
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 6: Hey, I'll go on, guys, thanks for having me on.

705
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 4: Sure, I'm super glad that we're keeping bond on Pump

706
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 4: just because I don't.

707
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 7: I just think there'll be a lot.

708
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 6: Better later on in the season.

709
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 8: I don't care about the season.

710
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 9: Record at all, as long as we make it into

711
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 9: the playoffs and we have a lot of healthy guys.

712
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what you're saying, and you know, you

713
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: look at it, and I think we kind of felt

714
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: it was trending this way to begin with. I think

715
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: the signing of Leonard Floyd makes a lot of people

716
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: breathe a lot easier knowing that it's a guy with

717
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: proven pass rush production who has twenty nine and a

718
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: half sacks over the last three seasons, which I think

719
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: is in the top ten in the league. I think

720
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: he's tenth for most sacks over the last three seasons.

721
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: So you look at all of that and then not

722
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: for nothing, and I realize it's not real football. But

723
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: the Bills defense isn't even game planning. And they had

724
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: three sacks in each of the first two preseason games,

725
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: and they had two against you know, the Bears, who

726
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: have one of the most elusive quarterbacks in football in

727
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: justin fields. So I think the early returns on the

728
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: pass rush are encouraging, not only because of the proven

729
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: players that they have like a Leonard Floyd, And I

730
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: would even put Greg Russeau in that group. After an

731
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: eight sax season last year, despite missing three games with

732
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: a high ankle spring and playing on a high ankle

733
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: spring through the rest of the season at less than

734
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. But you've got up and coming players

735
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: who are showing very encouraging signs like a Kingsley Jonathan

736
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: who's probably making this roster. So you roll all that together.

737
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be fine in these first four

738
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: games without Vaughan, you know, barring some rash of injuries

739
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: where they're suddenly shorthanded.

740
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: Right. I'm I'm with you. I'm the fact they've got

741
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: Vaughan wading in the wings and coming back is a

742
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: huge boost for them halfway through the season or whenever

743
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: it happens, where it's week four, week five, I feel good.

744
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: I feel better about von because I i'd be I'd

745
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: have some anks if he came back, you know, or

746
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: like that quick.

747
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: Be on pins and needles.

748
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think too, because of what we've seen

749
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: from other players that have been injured, Vaughn had a

750
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: voice in the whole thing too, And sometimes Vaughn's maybe

751
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: Vaughn's one of those guys we got to protect him

752
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: from himself. But he strikes me as a guy that's got,

753
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, pretty good head on his shoulders. And I

754
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: think it was probably related to him exactly what we're saying. Listen, Vaughn,

755
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: we don't need you in the first month of the season,

756
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: but we do. We are gonna need you for a

757
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: playoff run. Let's go take it easy to get ready

758
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: and come back one hundred percent. Don't hurry, Yeah, just

759
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: get ready.

760
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 3: Give you an extra month and a half to get ready.

761
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: So I'm yeah. And that also, I think also gives

762
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: them the freedom to put one of these other, you know,

763
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: young players back on the roster. Keep one of those

764
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: guys on the roster. Maybe it's Kingly Jonathan, who has

765
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: really played well this preseason, and give him a chance

766
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 1: to get some snaps and develop so even further, because

767
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: that that's a guy with an enormous upside who's just

768
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: getting started playing football, let alone playing in the pros.

769
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: I mean, he's young in football. He's only played six

770
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: six seven years of football in his life.

771
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: So he's this good.

772
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: Now, imagine what he does with more player development and

773
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 2: some more seasoning and coaching from defensive line coach Eric Washington.

774
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: Back to the phones into Brian and Alabama.

775
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 6: What do you got for is Brian, Hey, good afternoon, Fellas.

776
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 6: The only thing that I'm not worried about the first

777
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 6: four games per se. One thing that I do think

778
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 6: people are underestimating is the pass rush. And what I

779
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 6: mean by that is I really hope that they do.

780
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 6: I really hope that they are able to provide some

781
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 6: type of pass rush. Chris, you just spoke about the

782
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 6: production Greg Russau and Leonard Floyd had last year or

783
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 6: in the last three years, But I would contribute that

784
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 6: two more towards von Miller and Aaron Donald that Floyd had,

785
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 6: So to me, it's going to be key to see

786
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 6: if they can do it without that premier pass rush

787
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 6: on the other side. And I'm really hoping that the

788
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 6: defensive tackles really pushed the pocket and really have an

789
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 6: impact that we can have a better impact on the

790
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 6: defensive end side, and then if we can't get that

791
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 6: to happen, and then maybe look at sending twelve dots

792
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 6: on on in some blist packages. I think he's better

793
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 6: in that than he is in pass coverage. So it's

794
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 6: just I'm just really really curious to see how those

795
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 6: two defensive ends do. I think shack last and that

796
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 6: peness no more so in setters as setters than anything.

797
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 6: So Bill hoping that they do good and that's all

798
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 6: a half.

799
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Speaker 2: All right, valid points, Brian, I get it. You know

800
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: they play with Aaron Donald. Yeah, you should get one

801
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: on one matchups, but they still have to win them,

802
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 2: and they did. Now, I guess what you're saying here

803
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: is they're not going to see as many one on

804
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: ones because von Miller isn't on the field. I'll respect

805
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: that that's a valid point. But I also think that

806
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott can become somewhat of an X factor there too.

807
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: I anticipate that this defense.

808
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: Is going to be more aggressive than we saw under

809
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: Leslie Frasier, and I think at times it's going to

810
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: be a little bit more exotic under Sean McDermott, where

811
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: he he's going to scheme ways for his players to

812
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: win and establish a pass rush, you know, with blitz packages,

813
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: different pressures, people dropping out, people coming, all that kind

814
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 2: of thing.

815
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: So for me, I'm encouraged by it.

816
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a lot to be excited about,

817
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: no question. And you can certainly make that conjecture about

818
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd being helped out by the guys around him.

819
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: Every player is, and this is a team that has

820
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: said that about Ed Oliver. He you know, when he's

821
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: better when Daikwan Jones is in there. He's better when

822
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips is in there beside him, and everybody got

823
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: better when Vaughn stepped onto the field. But that's what

824
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: good players do. I mean, they elevate people around you

825
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: because they give you more opportunity and all that, and

826
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: this is all going to work together. But Brownie and

827
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: I both have even since the beginning of training camp,

828
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: and particularly since the Leonard Floyd signing, we've really been

829
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: high on this team's ability to rush the passer. They

830
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: as a group, we haven't seen it. We haven't seen

831
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: him have that chance yet because you know, even in

832
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: these games, the preseason games, you just you know, Vaughn's

833
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: not there. But Lynn Floyd didn't take very many snaps. No,

834
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: Rousseau didn't take very many snaps, you know. So yeah,

835
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm still thinking they've got a lot up their sleeve

836
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: that we haven't seen, and I'm I'm excited for it.

837
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I don't know that they're gonna be,

838
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, get sixty sacks. Yeah, but man o, man,

839
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have the ball's gonna have to

840
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: come out and come out on time or somebody's gonna

841
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: be on the ground.

842
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: We have to take a break here. But if you're

843
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: holding an eight h three oh five fifty, stay right there.

844
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: We've got We are wide open on today's show for

845
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: phone lines until yeah, basically another forty minutes. So if

846
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: you're on hold, stay where you are. We will get

847
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: to you as we are asking you what are your

848
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: thoughts on the Bills defensive line to start the season,

849
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: Knowing the reports are out there about von Miller starting

850
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: the year on Pup and Boogie Basham reportedly being traded

851
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: to the Giants. Your phone calls when we get back

852
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Speaker 2: here on Roster cutdown Day and Steve, there is an

857
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: intra division trade in the AFC West, with Chris Jones

858
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 2: still holding out in Kansas City. The Chiefs have traded

859
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: a sixth round draft pick to the Las Vegas Raiders

860
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: for defensive tackle Neil Farrell. According to sources, Adam Schefter

861
00:45:52,640 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: of ESPN is reporting that interesting. It's certainly at least

862
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 2: gives me pause. The Chiefs are basically like, well, we're

863
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: not moving off what we can do for Chris Jones,

864
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,479
Speaker 2: so we're gonna get reinforcements until he decides he wants

865
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: to come back and play, knowing he's getting fined fifty

866
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: K a day.

867
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm I don't want to read too much

868
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: into moves like this with the Chiefs.

869
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: They're covering their bases though.

870
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: Yeah they are, absolutely, there's no question about it. They

871
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: got to have a guy. But the Chiefs, I mean,

872
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: they didn't hesitate not to pay Tyreek Hill. I don't

873
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: know what Chris Jones thinks he's gonna He's he's out,

874
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: He's not gonna play.

875
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 2: He is if you think about it, though, he really

876
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: is the one major difference maker on that defense.

877
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: Well yeah, you got mean, Tyreek's a big difference look

878
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: at him for the Dolphins and stuff. But here's the thing,

879
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: and here's why I brought it up. These teams have

880
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: got Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert Trevor

881
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: Lawrence in that, you know, go down the list. Everybody

882
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: else's everybody else can go right, I mean to it,

883
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah right, you know what I mean. Get you get it.

884
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: And there's an interesting development here with the defensive tackle position.

885
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: All these guys were getting paid this offseason, and then

886
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 2: the last two weeks something's changed here. We're getting close

887
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: to the regular season. Teams don't have as much money

888
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: to spend. The Dolphins are trying to get Jonathan Taylor.

889
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: They're not paying Christian Wilkins, who still doesn't have a contract.

890
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: What did they do the other day? They turn around

891
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: and paid the guy the lines up next to him,

892
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: Zach Seeler, the defensive tackle times a three year extension,

893
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: and now they're trying to save money to create room

894
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 3: for Jonathan Taylor. Christian Wilkins ain't gonna be there next year.

895
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: Maybe he'll be a Bill. I don't see worked out.

896
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: And the Bills have got four guys on one year

897
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: deals too.

898
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: Well that's true. So but that's a franchise.

899
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: Top five draft choice Christian Wilkins or top ten draft choice.

900
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: But here's yeah, yes, you're right if you're a Christian Wilkins, though,

901
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: that's not a that. That's not a deal that you

902
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: wouldn't say, I'll sign the all, sign the tender. You know,

903
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: you franchise me. Yeah, you know what I mean because

904
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: if if you do that, then he gets you know,

905
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: he can play on one year. It's just like being

906
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: a free agent. Right.

907
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: It's interesting.

908
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: I think it The league is more and more than

909
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: we get deeper and further into this this CBA that

910
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: we're in the collective bargaining room with we're in. There

911
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: are haves and have nots. Now, the have nots are

912
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: pretty rich too, but the haves are the guys at

913
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: money positions. Time it just right where there's a market

914
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: for you. I mean because look at look at Jordan

915
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: Poyer saying thing, there's like nine thousand safeties out there,

916
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: this starting safety right starters. So you got to time

917
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: it right and you got to hit it right, and

918
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: you gotta have a great you know, you gotta be

919
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: in a money position. You can't. I mean, Saquon Barkley

920
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: was struggling to get it. Saquon Barkley was struggling to

921
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: get a deal, and Jonathan Taylor and Josh Jacobs.

922
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, finally got his money.

923
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean, man, oh man, it's like pulling teeth for

924
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: some of these. If you're not a corner, a receiver, quarterback,

925
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: and a d D lineman pass rusher, you know, you

926
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: just kind of get what you can get.

927
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: Let's get back to the phones where we're talking Bill's

928
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: defensive line going into the season, with the reports of

929
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 3: von Miller going to Pup and Boogie Basham reportedly being

930
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: traded to the Giants, to Barbin Holland. Next, what do

931
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: you got for us, Barb?

932
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 10: Hi, how you guys doing today?

933
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: Well?

934
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 7: Thank you, I'm good.

935
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 10: I'm calling because I don't know what that lady Marie

936
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 10: was watching. They're called. But Jamar Hanlin and Greg Russo

937
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 10: played this last preseason game excellent. They both had a

938
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 10: lot of hits.

939
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 8: I don't know what she was watching.

940
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 10: I have no idea. And the other thing being I

941
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 10: think Brandon, Bean and Sean deserve all the respect in

942
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 10: the world. I know ESPN is so pro jess they

943
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 10: can't see beyond anything else. I just can't stand it.

944
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 10: I want to spit in the air. Excuse me, I

945
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 10: didn't mean to say that, But anyway, I know they

946
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 10: are so pro Just if they don't they say they

947
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 10: say good things about Brandon and Sean. As far as

948
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 10: the organization and a dad, I'd like to get across

949
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 10: to that lady. This year. I am so excited to

950
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 10: see this team play because Brandon Bean and the organization

951
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 10: has gone fir and beyond to fill every nook and

952
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 10: cranny that they could without im in a million dollars

953
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 10: because we didn't have it. I command that. Yeah, and

954
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 10: that's all I want to say, like.

955
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 3: The passion barb any time.

956
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: Actually they did spend a million dollars.

957
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: But but what she means is they didn't break the

958
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: bankers they.

959
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: Got put it for us, not them. Yes, yes, yes,

960
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: you're right, and I would I would agree with a

961
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: lot of what you said, no question about it. I

962
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: thought you're right. The earlier caller said that she thought

963
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: Damar was hesitant and not you know, sticking it. I

964
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 1: thought just the opposite. I thought he was playing really

965
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: aggressively in the secondary. And and I'm and Rousseau. While

966
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: we mentioned, I don't think he got very many snaps. No,

967
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about him. He's a he's a starting

968
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: defensive end of the NFL, and he's a given and

969
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: he plays like it. I'm he's so, whether he's got

970
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: a million sacks or not, the guy's a player that's

971
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: going to be on this team is going to get

972
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps because he's a handful. So I'm

973
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: with you, Barb.

974
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are up against the break here, but Mark

975
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: and Tanawanda, John in Tonawanda, Carol and Tanawanda.

976
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: It's a trifecta from Tanawanda.

977
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: You guys will kick us off in our number two

978
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's

979
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio.

980
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

981
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two talking Bills

982
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 2: d Live. And in the wake of the multiple reports

983
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 2: out there about von Miller going to reserve pup which

984
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: will take him out of being eligible for the first

985
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: four games of the regular season, as well as the

986
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: reported trade of Boogie Bashi and to the Giants. Nothing

987
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: official yet from the team, but in light of those reports,

988
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: the question being posed to you, what do you feel?

989
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the Bills defensive line to

990
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: start the season? Eight h three zero five fifty one

991
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty The number

992
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: to get on board, have open lines for you. But

993
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: back to the phones, we go to Mark and Tona

994
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: want to to lead us off.

995
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Mark?

996
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, it's an honn of privilege to lead off

997
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 8: to ton of want to effect it here? No, I

998
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 8: just I mean we better get after the quarterback this year.

999
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 8: In saying that, I felt like our defensive backs they

1000
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 8: haven't gotten any younger and it looks slow. And you

1001
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 8: know who's not is Tyreek Hill from the Dolphins. And

1002
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 8: I think we're running to a buzzsaw with the Jots

1003
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 8: on opening night. And I think that Josh Allen has

1004
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 8: masked a lot of not only the offensive line woes,

1005
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 8: but a weapons issue because he's just phenomenal. So I

1006
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 8: guess my question is it's more more to see. But

1007
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 8: to both of you guys is when can we start

1008
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 8: holding Brandon Bean accountable? I feel like the middle linebacker

1009
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 8: position has been in need, just how I thought that

1010
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 8: the receiver position last year was in need and end

1011
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 8: up catching up to him with bringing Cole Beasley back

1012
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 8: and smoked you know, off the couch. But I wasn't

1013
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 8: encouraged by Brandon Bean this year because this year's draft,

1014
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 8: he went and got Dalton Kinka to help Josh Allen.

1015
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 8: I think that's our best defense and I'm gonna hang

1016
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 8: up listen to what you guys think. Thanks for having

1017
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 8: me on guys every great day.

1018
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 3: Yep, thanks, Mark, appreciate the call. I will. I'll say

1019
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: this first.

1020
00:54:53,320 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: Concerning your concerns about the secondary, I think the encouraging

1021
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 2: thing there is there is youth in the pipeline. And

1022
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: I guess what I mean by that is Taylor rap

1023
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: is a fourth year player. I think he's twenty five.

1024
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: If players, for some reason, because of their age or otherwise,

1025
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: are deemed to be faltering in terms of their consistency

1026
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: of play, I think we know that this is a

1027
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 2: head coach that will not hesitate to pull the trigger

1028
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: and make a change. And I think the same goes

1029
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: at cornerback. As Steve was talking about yesterday, this team

1030
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: is really happy with the top four corners they have

1031
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: on the outside, and they love Taron Johnson in the slot.

1032
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: And we were talking about it yesterday. There could be

1033
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: matchups in given weeks. You brought up Tyreek Hill. Your

1034
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: best man cover corner is probably kyer Elam. When they

1035
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: play the Dolphins. Maybe kyer Elam starts, Maybe he plays

1036
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: the whole game and shadows Tyreek Hill the whole game,

1037
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: because I can tell you right now I distinct remember it.

1038
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: During the playoff game last year, I watched Tyreek Hill

1039
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: run an eighteen yard dig route and kyer Elam is

1040
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: with him step for step, And after the play was over,

1041
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill turned around to say, who the hell's running

1042
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: with me for this long? Nobody runs with me for

1043
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: that long? How's this guy right next to me in

1044
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: my hip pocket on an eighteen yard comeback? Kyer Elam

1045
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 2: can do that. So I think that And this is

1046
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: probably a separate conversation for another day, but very briefly,

1047
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people that are all down

1048
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 2: on kyer Elam because they think, ah, he's the first

1049
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: round pick. How could he not be starting for a

1050
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 2: second straight year. I'm going to tell you to be patient.

1051
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you to be patient because I think

1052
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 2: there are going to be instances where it makes sense

1053
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 2: to start him based on matchups in a given week,

1054
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: and I believe it will happen at some point in

1055
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: time in the first half of this season. I genuinely

1056
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 2: believe that because I think they feel much like you

1057
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: see Poyer and Hyde being interchanging at the safety positions.

1058
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: I think in terms of the lineup at the outside

1059
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: corner positions, I think they believe there are players there

1060
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: that are interchangeable as well. Kyrie Elam chief among them

1061
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: if he's not one of the top two guys, because

1062
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: I think we both agree that it's probably gonna be

1063
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: Trudeavious and it's it's trending towards Christian Benford to be

1064
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 2: the other starting corner when the season starts. I don't

1065
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: think those are irrevocable starters in the lineup. I think

1066
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: one of those guys could be pulled in favor of

1067
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: what they deem to be a better matchup in a

1068
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 2: given week.

1069
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: I think that could happen this season.

1070
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they really like their cornerback room now safety,

1071
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: you can make a case, yeah, Hide and Employer. They're

1072
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: long in the tooth, they've always had. The reason they've

1073
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: been good for so long is because they anticipate. They

1074
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: you don't get over the top on them. And one

1075
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: of the other things they do is confuse a quarterback.

1076
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: That's what they do. They can make a coverage look

1077
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: like something that it's not all way up until post snap.

1078
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: Even so it confuses smart quarterbacks. Another thing about like

1079
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: Josh covering up for lack of weapons, you can make.

1080
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: You can say what you want about last year's group.

1081
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: They were injury riddled last year. And this just In

1082
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Speaker 1: I said this in the last segment I think, or

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00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: maybe the first segment of the show. Quarterbacks cover up.

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00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: Josh covers up a lot. Yeah, that's what Josh is

1085
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: supposed to do. That's why you have an elite quarterbacks.

1086
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: What Pat Mahomes does, what just Joe Burrow does, it's

1087
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: what Justin Herbert does, traveling, what Aaron Rodgers is gonna do.

1088
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: That's what they do. That's their deal. That's why they're elite.

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00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: They cover up a lot of problems. I'll tell you this.

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00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning played behind as bad an offensive line as

1091
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: you can play with.

1092
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 3: And got the an allows the defense.

1093
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: And he was in Denver the year that they had

1094
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: an They had an offense with Wes Welker and all

1095
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: those jokers. They were killing people offensively. That the one

1096
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: they got crushed in the super Bowl. You know why

1097
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: they got crushed in the Super Bowl because the Seahawks

1098
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: exposed a horrible offensive line. That's my take. Peyton Manning

1099
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: was had guys in his lap so fast he couldn't

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00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: overcome it. He did it in Indianapolis year after year.

1101
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 1: They were weak in the playoffs because they got out

1102
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: talented up front, and Peyton would just think the way.

1103
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: He'd think his way out of it. He'd get informations,

1104
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: he'd give guys help, he'd get the ball out of

1105
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: there fast, he'd call plays, he'd change the formation, that everything,

1106
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: and just to cover because he'd give have himself an

1107
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: option in the passing game. That's what great quarterbacks do.

1108
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: They cover up for whatever weakness you have on their

1109
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: side of the ball, and sometimes on the other side

1110
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: of the ball too. So you can say what you

1111
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: want about all these, gentle if you think there's a

1112
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: general manager out there that's gonna do a better job

1113
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: than Brandon Bean, I like to hear the name and

1114
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: like to see if they're available and why they're available.

1115
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: If they're so good, you to go to ESPN. Get

1116
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: Mike Tannenbaum, former GM of the Jets, in here. I mean, seriously,

1117
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: come on, the draft is hard. It's really hard. One

1118
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: of the things. And I'll notice this one of the

1119
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: things the Bills do a lot, and I think a

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01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: lot of teams are starting to emulate it. There's a

1121
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: couple of things that Brandon Bean and Sean mcdermotd do

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01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: that I hadn't seen done to the extent they do

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01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: it before this and now they do it now a

1124
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: lot of teams are doing it. But I think they

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Speaker 1: started the trend. They draft big guys high in the draft.

1126
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: Concasion exception, but they drafted small. Yeah, but d Lineman,

1127
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. They go high for the big guys because

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01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: big quality guys with traits, they go high in the draft.

1129
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: Elam they drafted high. Of course they drafted did that

1130
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: with Trey White too, But think about you know, Josh

1131
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: and Tremaine, but Rousseau, Boogie Aj, you know, Oliver is

1132
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: the only exception, Spencer Brown, Tommy Doyle. The draft big

1133
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: dudes because they want to get quality, big guys. They

1134
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: know that's where it starts, and that that's one thing

1135
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: that Brandon Bean has done, and now other teams are

1136
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: starting to. I mean like you're seeing more and more

1137
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: big guys taken higher and higher because they're hard to find.

1138
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: Another thing they do is this one year deal thing.

1139
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: They know guys play when there when their contracts on

1140
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: the line, so they give them a year were their

1141
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: contracts on the line, and they pay them a little heck,

1142
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: they give them a little bump, a little extra incentive.

1143
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: They pay them well for that one year, but they

1144
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: know they're going to get their biggest effort out of it.

1145
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: And that's That's been another thing that the Bills do.

1146
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: So you can say say what you want about their

1147
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: draft picks and stuff, there are other things they do

1148
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: as general manager that have I think been trend setting

1149
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: around the league. They are highly respected and there is

1150
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: good in the back and you can say that's a

1151
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: bad thing, but there's good in the back half of

1152
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: these drafts as they are in the first half, even

1153
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: better sometimes. I mean, you got Christian Benford as an

1154
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: opening day corner out of that draft. Dane Jackson, Dame Jackson,

1155
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: they've had, Levi Wallace and Sean McDermott and his staff

1156
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: are complimentary to the things there Brandon Bean does because

1157
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: their player development developed count say player development. He talks

1158
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: about it all the time. You look at other teams

1159
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: in the league, the players they get are the same

1160
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: guy when they leave as they are when they come in.

1161
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: The Bills have a whole bunch of guys who are

1162
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: way different in their second, third, and fourth years than

1163
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: they were when they drafted, way better they they developed players.

1164
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Speaker 1: And you're right, that is that is unique not just

1165
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: to the Bills, but it is unique to the Bills

1166
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: and not unique to it for a lot of other

1167
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: teams that can't get it done. So, yeah, we this

1168
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: is the time of year when when got win is

1169
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: the kind of a bottom line day, you know, is

1170
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: your team going to be better here or not? I

1171
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: am not. I'm not And I'm not one of these

1172
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: guys that's sitting around saying we're gonna We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: do anything because our middle linebackers different this year. Come on,

1174
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: I don't buy it. Yeah, I don't buy it.

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Speaker 3: Let's go back to the phones and to John and Tonawanda.

1176
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Speaker 3: Next week got for us?

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Speaker 11: John, Oh yes, I got two questions. One, I was

1178
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 11: just wondering, what who do you guys think would be

1179
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 11: the play calling and the defense since Jermaine Nigman's ain't

1180
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 11: there they called the place yep. And two someone told

1181
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 11: me that the Bears were the Zoomers that the Beds

1182
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 11: are trading for a wide receiver from Miami.

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Speaker 12: U.

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Speaker 2: There are rumors out there that the Bears are looking

1185
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 2: for help at the receiver position.

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01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: That is true.

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Speaker 11: No Buffalo, Buffalo in Miami for Cedric Wilson Junior. Someone

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01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 11: told me yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Well, Cedric Wilson Junior just reworked his contract with the

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01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: Dolphins to stay put, so he's staying in there.

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Speaker 11: Yeah. I just there's one thing on if the rumors

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Speaker 11: or two that Buffalo was signing him supportively.

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Speaker 1: No, No, that's not true.

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01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 3: No, not true.

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Speaker 2: But John, pertaining to your question about running the defense,

1196
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: it looks like it's trending in the direction of Tyrel Dodson.

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01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,919
Speaker 2: Terrell Bernard is expected, per Brandon Being to get back

1198
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 2: on the practice field here sooner rather than later from

1199
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Speaker 2: his hamstring injury. But he missed the entire preseason, didn't

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01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,959
Speaker 2: get to run the defense at game speed at all,

1201
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 2: just in training camp and on the practice field before

1202
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: he sustained his injury back on the last day of

1203
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: practice at Saint John Fisher unfortunately. And I think Dotson

1204
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 2: has impressed coach McDermott down the stretch here from probably

1205
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: the week leading up to the last preseason game and

1206
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: then against Chicago, he impressed him. Just to be specific,

1207
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: he impressed him with his leadership and his command to

1208
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 2: the defense. Now that's not to say that Tyrel Dotson

1209
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: is going to be the perfect middle linebacker and not

1210
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 2: make a mistake here or there, because doing it in

1211
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: live bullets, he's got limited exposure to that. I think

1212
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 2: he's got a handful of starts in his career, so

1213
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: I think he gotta take it with a grain of salt.

1214
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 3: Be patient.

1215
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: But I think it's trending that way Tyrrell Dotson, as

1216
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: you're starting middle linebacker at least for week one, and again,

1217
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: that's not a position that wouldn't be subject to change either.

1218
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Speaker 2: Terrel Bernard comes back, starts demonstrating the instincts that they

1219
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: believe he has in the practice setting through the course

1220
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 2: of the first couple of weeks of the season. And

1221
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 2: if Tyrell Dotson isn't minding his p's and q's, crossing

1222
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,959
Speaker 2: all t's and dotting all eyes and getting those guys

1223
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: lined up the way Sean McDermot believes he should be

1224
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: lined up again, he will not hesitate to make a change.

1225
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 2: We have seen it before, so there could be some

1226
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 2: fluidity to that position based on a how Tyrel Dotson

1227
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 2: plays at the outset of the season and b how

1228
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: good Terrel Bernard looks in the practice setting in the

1229
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: games where he's not playing or starting.

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Speaker 3: I should say.

1231
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: So, we'll have to see how it all manifests itself

1232
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: in the coming weeks. But that's kind of how I

1233
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: see it.

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01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, I agree with all of that.

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01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 3: That's yeah, But that's the way it's trending, at least

1236
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 3: it appears.

1237
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: Yah. We also have you know, everybody's calling about Brandon

1238
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and I'm getting some stuff on

1239
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: my timeline. People are thinking, for some reason, Boogie Basham,

1240
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: the move on Boogie Basham was about salary or somehow

1241
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: it's not his rookie deal. Yeah, he's on his rookie deal.

1242
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: That's yeah. So that's not no.

1243
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: I mean, they do save money by moving him off

1244
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: the roster, but that's not the main impetus for moving

1245
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: him off the roster.

1246
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't going to make somebody.

1247
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: He wasn't going to make the team. Yeah, so get

1248
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: an asset in return for him and not let him

1249
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: go for nothing, right. I mean, the Pittsburgh Steelers just

1250
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: did the same thing. They had a third round pick

1251
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. His name's Kendrick Green, started fifteen

1252
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 2: games for them as a rookie.

1253
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 3: Was not going to make the roster this year.

1254
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 2: Why because they reinvested in their offensive line and got

1255
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: better people. They just traded him to Houston for a

1256
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 2: sixth round pick. They're not trying to move money off

1257
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: the roster. They just have guys that are better. And

1258
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 2: the Bills are the same exact thing. You're gonna see it.

1259
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 3: All over the league, all over the league.

1260
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Speaker 2: That's a third round pick. It's almost the same exact

1261
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: thing that the Bills.

1262
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 3: Are reportedly doing with Boogie Bash. Back to the phones,

1263
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 3: into Carol and Tanawanda. What do you got for us? Carol,

1264
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 3: thanks for.

1265
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 12: Holding Yeah, guys, thanks for having me. I'm glad I

1266
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 12: can close out the trifecta. By the way, anyway, I

1267
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 12: agree with Keepen Miller on the pup list. You know,

1268
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 12: we don't want him to get hurt stream maturely, and

1269
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 12: we want him ready to play when we need him.

1270
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 12: But my one concern that I have that I just

1271
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 12: want to ask you is other than rap Milano and Dobson.

1272
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 12: What have the Bills done to prepare against the running game?

1273
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 12: It seems last week there was a lot of yardage gains,

1274
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 12: a lot of mistap, which was kind of resembling what

1275
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 12: had happened against the Chiefs in the past. You know,

1276
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 12: the short passes that were made and then they gained

1277
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 12: twenty thirty forty yards. So what can the Bills do

1278
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 12: to enhance and improve their defense against the running game?

1279
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 12: That's my only concern.

1280
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, first of all, Yeah, first of all, you have

1281
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: to say thanks. First of all, they're gonna get healthy.

1282
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: They get They're gonna get healthy with Daikwon Jones, and

1283
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna get healthy with Jordan Phillips ed will be

1284
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: healthy again.

1285
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 3: And they added proven.

1286
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 1: Runs down, so they they got bigger and just healed

1287
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: up from last year where they weren't doing well preseason.

1288
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get too upset about although you

1289
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: can make a case that the explosive run they let

1290
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: up in the Pittsburgh game was a lapse on getting

1291
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: run fits set, and that's that's on the players on

1292
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: the field. I don't see this team being overpowered by

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Speaker 1: anybody physically and run fits are just what they are fits.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a mental exercise as much as it is

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Speaker 1: a physical one. Uh And if you and if the

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Speaker 1: physical one is a given, it's all about being in

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01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 1: the right spot where you're supposed to be and trusting

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01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: that the other nine or ten guys on the run

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Speaker 1: stuff are going to be in their spots where they're

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01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: supposed to be. It's not about overpowering somebody and making

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01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: a play, although that happens on a you know, on

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01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: a guy like get Oliver and he penetrates in that

1303
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But the run game, the run stuff

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01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: is more about mentally being in the right spot and

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01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: knowing your assignment as much as it is a physical exercise.

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01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: That's where the middle linebacker is, and that's kind of

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01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: where his wheelhouse is. He's got to make sure the

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01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: guys behind him in the secondary know that their run

1309
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: fits are complementary to the guys up front and vice versa.

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing in coverage. So that's why that's

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01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: the thing that the middle linebacker would probably you know

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01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: that that's the importance of his job. So I'm not

1313
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: worried about the run defense. I think it's almost the

1314
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Speaker 1: point in the NFL now where you hope a team

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01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: runs against you, particularly, I think a team like Buffalo,

1316
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,839
Speaker 1: they hope a team just continues to run the football.

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01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: The Bills strangled the the Green Bay Packers last year

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Speaker 1: by running the football. They just put it out or reach.

1319
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: They were up seventeen I think they won by ten,

1320
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 1: but they were up seventeen points and they just kept

1321
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 1: handing it off because they just had these long, extended drives.

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01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: Even though they didn't get points out of it, they just.

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01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 3: Took the game away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the game just became too short for Green Bay

1325
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: to get back into they scored. Now it's a ten

1326
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: point game, it's like oh no, oh yeah, there's only

1327
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: like four minutes left, you know, and the Bills ran

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01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: that out. So the run, you hope teams run against

1329
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: this club.

1330
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 3: And I will say that the run game, the run

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01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 3: defense was something that Sean McDermott was very happy with

1332
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 3: after the first preseason game against Indy, then obviously was

1333
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: not happy. The next week.

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Speaker 2: They tried to shore that up, get it corrected, and

1335
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 2: it was considerably better against the Bears, who were running

1336
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 2: behemoth running backs at them. Roshawn Johnson the rookie out

1337
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: of Texas. That guy is a load. He averaged two

1338
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 2: point four yards per carry. His longest run was seven yards.

1339
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,839
Speaker 2: The two longest runs in the game by the Bears

1340
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 2: last week. One was by Simba Webster on an end

1341
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: around for seventeen yards and Justin Field's on a scramble

1342
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 2: for thirteen. Those are the two longest runs in the

1343
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,879
Speaker 2: entire game. First team, second team thirteen.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 2: And then obviously you had, you know, the Division two

1346
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: kids scramble for the touchdown. But that's in a man

1347
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 2: coverage call with everybody's back turned right. You know, sometimes

1348
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 2: that happens. So I am encouraged because I think in

1349
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: two out of the three games the run defense was solid,

1350
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 2: and you know they're gonna have to be solid in

1351
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 2: Week one, There's no question about it, and throughout the

1352
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 2: season I think they will be. Let's go back to

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01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 2: the phones and to ed in Lancaster.

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Speaker 1: Next.

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Speaker 3: We got for us head and are you there?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 3: What you got for us?

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01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 4: Okay? Well, you know, like stave side, I mean, it's

1359
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 4: teams at McDermott's jobs on the line to pick the

1360
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 4: right guys. So I'm not gonna say one or the other.

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01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 4: I'm just curious. I'm why if they allow fifty three

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01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 4: guys on the roster, they don't allow fifty three guys

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01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 4: to dress on game day.

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01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's it's really simple. What happens if you

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01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: got three guys hurt and the other team's got fifty

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01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: three guys and you only have forty seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a It's a whole competitive advantage issue.

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01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 3: That's what it's about.

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01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 2: Because if a team is perfectly healthy, like the Philadelphia

1370
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 2: Eagles were last year, and they're playing the forty nine

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01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: Ers in the NFC title game, and they've got six

1372
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 2: guys hurt, and then get five more in the game,

1373
01:12:56,160 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: which is what happened. You saw how lopsided that game became.

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01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 2: Imagine if the Eagles were allowed to dress their entire

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01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: roster of fifty three guys, knowing the Niners only had

1376
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: forty seven healthy, and then lost four more guys during

1377
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 2: the game, it would have been even worse than what

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01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 2: we witnessed. And I think that's a competitive balance that

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01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: the league tries to strike by only letting you dress,

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01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: you know, forty seven.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, it was a there was a in the

1382
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: eighties when I when I was in the league, just

1383
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: got in the league. The forty nine ers actually played

1384
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: a game. I think the game day rosters at that

1385
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 1: time were forty two or forty five something like that.

1386
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:40,839
Speaker 1: Forty two guys on game day and the Niners only

1387
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: had thirty four, thirty three or thirty four healthy guys.

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01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 1: They played the game with thirty three guys and they

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: actually won it, I believe is when you know it's

1390
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: Montana and Roger Craignal. They had a bunch of Hall

1391
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: of famers on that team. But that's what the league

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01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: trying to avoid. They want to give these clubs the

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01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: freedom to have a full complement of players going into

1394
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 1: the game. You can pick whatever you know, positions you want,

1395
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: but at least you've got the bodies to do it.

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01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,919
Speaker 1: And the league's very sensitive to the fact that sometimes

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01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: you don't have all those players available. And I'm without

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01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: even checking, I can tell you they've got statistics on

1399
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: how many injuries per week every club suffers on an average,

1400
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: and these numbers are set by that a lot.

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01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here because when we

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01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: come back, we're going to be joined by writer and

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Speaker 2: podcast hosts for The Ringer Shield Capatia. He's got projections

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Speaker 2: on the best and worst NFL defenses for the twenty

1405
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 2: twenty three season. Spoiler alert, good rankings for the Bills

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Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball. We'll share those with

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Speaker 2: you next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colid

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01:14:55,320 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back here

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01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

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01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 2: please to be joined now by writer and podcast host

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01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 2: for The Ringer one Shield Capatia, getting ready for the

1412
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Speaker 2: regular season and projecting the best and worst NFL defenses

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01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty three. You're kind of doing this on

1414
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: a macro scale. You got all these people out there

1415
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: trying to do individual player rankings.

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01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 3: You're just going sides to the ball.

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd much prefer your your approach then diving

1418
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 2: through four hundred, five hundred players.

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01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 3: Good lord, good to have you. Shehiel, how you doing?

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01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, good to be here.

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01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 9: It's part of my preseason prep run. Like I have

1422
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 9: to go on the record with what I think of

1423
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 9: these teams. So let's look at offenses, Let's look at defenses.

1424
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 9: Let's see where I end up and then I can

1425
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 9: make predictions that are gonna look stupid, probably by how

1426
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 9: but maybe we'll get to Thanksgiving this year.

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01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, why should your predictions be different than anybody else's, right?

1428
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: So you're right, though, the Bills have been at the

1429
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: top of these rankings on both sides of the ball,

1430
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: both sometimes in the preseason and at the end of

1431
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 1: the season, where you know, but there's some things that

1432
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 1: change year to year, and this year the Bills have

1433
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: got some pretty big changes, particularly middle linebacker and the

1434
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: fact that Sean McDermott is now going to call the

1435
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: defensive signals. How do you think that effects where their

1436
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: defense is ranked? And maybe the outlook for the future

1437
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: and the uncertainty.

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01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, they were a tough defense to rank for some

1439
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 9: of the reasons you mentioned. You know, some of that

1440
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 9: personnel turnover. Some of their better players are a little

1441
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 9: bit on the older end where you say, hey, can

1442
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 9: they still do it again this year?

1443
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 7: Do they have it in them?

1444
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 9: Or could these be players who show some decline. I

1445
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 9: just looked at it last year. I thought the Bills

1446
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 9: were and if you look at some kind of the

1447
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 9: advanced stats that they have on this stuff, really one

1448
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 9: of the most injured defenses in the NFL. I mean,

1449
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 9: I think what high Boyer Miller, Tredavius White. I think

1450
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 9: those guys combined to play thirty one games last year

1451
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 9: and they were still a top five defense by pretty

1452
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 9: much any kind of advanced at you look at. So

1453
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 9: I looked at that and I thought, you know what,

1454
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 9: I think they can withstand some of those injuries for sure.

1455
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 9: And so with Sean McDermot, there's no doubt it's a change.

1456
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 9: When you have your head coach as your play caller,

1457
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 9: I kind of tend to think if we see something

1458
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 9: there that's an issue, it might be more with hey,

1459
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 9: is he focused on the defense in some of the

1460
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 9: game management. He's got to figure out, Hey, do I

1461
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 9: need to hand this off to someone else so that

1462
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 9: we're calling timeouts at the right time, challenging plays at

1463
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 9: the right time, that kind of thing from a defensive perspective.

1464
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 9: I mean, he and Leslie Frasier have obviously known each

1465
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 9: other for a long time. I would be surprised that

1466
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 9: that scheme was going to be something totally different this year.

1467
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 9: Is just a matter of kind of the play calling,

1468
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 9: what do you want to call in So the fact

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Speaker 9: is the Bills have had one of the most consistent

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01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 9: defenses in the NFL in the regular steam and since

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Speaker 9: mcdermot's got there, and I just think that's going to

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Speaker 9: continue this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Sheil, I don't know if you've seen the reports,

1474
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 2: but the reports are out there. The team hasn't made

1475
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 2: it official that Vaughn is going to start the season

1476
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,799
Speaker 2: on reserve pup, which takes him out of the equation

1477
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 2: for the first four games of the season. Do you

1478
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 2: feel like the Bills are insulated enough with their pass

1479
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 2: rush knowing they signed Leonard Floyd in June. Greg Russeau

1480
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 2: looks like he's ready for a breakout season in his

1481
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 2: third year, you know, and they even have Poona Ford

1482
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 2: on the inside to kind of shore up the run front.

1483
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: Do you feel they're insulated enough, you know, to get

1484
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 2: through that first month of the season knowing they won't

1485
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Speaker 2: have Vaughn.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I like their depth there.

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Speaker 9: I don't know that they have like those one or

1488
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 9: two guys without von Miller that an offensive coordinator looks

1489
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 9: at it on a Monday night and says, shoot, what's

1490
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 9: our plan for blocking player X?

1491
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 7: Like you would with with Von Miller.

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Speaker 9: I mean that certainly helps when you have a player

1493
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 9: like that, a Miles Scarett or a Micah Parsons.

1494
01:18:58,240 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 7: But I'm with you on Rousseau.

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01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 9: I mean, I think he's really kind of a swing player,

1496
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 9: probably for this defense. I think eight sacks last year.

1497
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 9: He's such a young player still that if he can

1498
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 9: kind of make that leap this year, that will go

1499
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Speaker 9: far and determining whether how good this Bill's defense is.

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Speaker 9: And so I understand the decision with von Miller. I mean,

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01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 9: I think that makes sense to kind of have to

1502
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,759
Speaker 9: play the long game if you're the Bills. I remember,

1503
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 9: even back when they signed him, having a conversation with

1504
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 9: Brandon Bean at one of the owners meetings where you know,

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01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 9: this was really a hey, how can we kind of

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Speaker 9: get over the hump and you know, make life harder

1507
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 9: on the Chiefs of the world, the Bengals of the

1508
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 9: world in the playoffs.

1509
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 7: And so you want von Miller healthy.

1510
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 9: Playing his best football in December, in January, in February.

1511
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 7: And so yeah, I think they have enough.

1512
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 9: I mean McDermott his roots come from you know, Philly

1513
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 9: and the Jim Those teams were blitzing and aggressive. I

1514
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 9: know that's not something you necessarily want to do in

1515
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 9: the NFL in twenty twenty three. But I think he's

1516
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 9: got enough tools where if he says, you know what,

1517
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 9: first couple of weeks are four man pass rushes and

1518
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 9: getting there, I have to be more creative. I have

1519
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 9: to create more confusion with the scheme. I think he's

1520
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 9: shown the ability to do that.

1521
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 1: One of the question marks also the Bills, and when

1522
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: you play well year over year, you always draw a

1523
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: hard schedule. But now with the Jets getting Aaron Rodgers

1524
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: and already having a top flight defense, the Miami Dolphins

1525
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: getting Vic Fangio one of the most gifted minds defensive minds,

1526
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: this is going to be a division that has changed

1527
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: markedly over the last twenty four months, let alone the

1528
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: last eight months. How does that? You know, those teams

1529
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: and you've got them all in the top of your

1530
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: defensive and offensive rankings. You know, how does that? You know?

1531
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: Having these good teams knock each other off, I guess,

1532
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 1: so to speak, help other teams in the division or

1533
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 1: in the in the conference.

1534
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's I think those four teams, if you just

1535
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 9: look at it, have the four hardest schedules in the NFL,

1536
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 9: and A lot of that is they just have to

1537
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 9: play each other twice. Like you mentioned, a lot of

1538
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 9: it is when do you get these teams? You know,

1539
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 9: is there a benefit to getting the Jets earlier in

1540
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 9: the season before they kind of find out what they

1541
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 9: want to be offensively? Maybe later in the season with

1542
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 9: the Dolphins it could be the opposite. You know, Tua

1543
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 9: has had some trouble staying healthy there, so I would

1544
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 9: think you might have a.

1545
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 7: Better chance against them later in the season.

1546
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 9: But I think those teams are going to beat up

1547
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 9: on each other quite a bit. You know, I'm not

1548
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 9: as high on the Patriots, but we all know when

1549
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 9: you're facing the Patriots, that's not gonna be a walkover.

1550
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 9: You're not going to say, Okay, we can show up

1551
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 9: and win this game. So while I think there's a

1552
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 9: separation between the top three teams and the Patriots, it's

1553
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 9: gonna be tough for.

1554
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 7: All of them.

1555
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 9: Now, I just look at what the Bills have done

1556
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 9: with Josh Allen over the last three years. I think

1557
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,799
Speaker 9: they've won what seventy two percent of their regular season

1558
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 9: games or something like that, And so the Bills have

1559
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 9: this tendency for me, at least where I'll be watching

1560
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 9: on a Sunday, going all right, you know there's some

1561
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 9: it doesn't always look pretty. Sometimes it's a little unsettled.

1562
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 9: You're going, all right, you know they're they're making some mistakes.

1563
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 9: And then you look up at the end of the

1564
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 9: season and what team has doubled it wins and by

1565
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 9: every advanced stat out there, point diffrench, whatever is still

1566
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 9: good and it's been the Bills. That's not a guarantee

1567
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 9: that it happens again this year, but I do kind

1568
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 9: of look at that history and say they earned my

1569
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 9: trust more than a team with some unknowns like the

1570
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,560
Speaker 9: Jets or the Dolphins there. So, yeah, I still like

1571
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 9: the Bills in this division. There's still my pick to

1572
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 9: win the AFC East. But to your point, Steve, you

1573
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 9: might not be able to pile up. Hey, we're one

1574
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 9: seat and we've got to buy and that obviously we

1575
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 9: know Bills, Bengals, Chiefs, they're all going to be playing

1576
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 9: for that. That's a big part of the regular season

1577
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 9: as well.

1578
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 2: Okay, so you've got the Bills ranked sixth on defense.

1579
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 2: You just touched on the offense a little bit, where

1580
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 2: you have them ranked fourth. I want to ask you

1581
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 2: this though shield. So we saw, and you accurately described

1582
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: this in your write up, that the Bills offense at

1583
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 2: times looked like a heavy lift last year for various reasons.

1584
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 2: Injuries were a part of that, the lack of a

1585
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: developed slot receiver and they tried multiple people there, and

1586
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 2: some injuries compromise that as well, with you Samos and

1587
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: Crowder out for the year after Week four, and then

1588
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: Isaiah McKenzie unable to fill it capably on his own.

1589
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 2: We've seen teams high powered offenses like the Bengals and

1590
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: the Chiefs instead turned to efficiency as an answer on

1591
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 2: how they morphed and changed as an offense. The Bills

1592
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 2: look like they're going in that direction with some of

1593
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: the moves they made this offseason. I'm curious to just

1594
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: get your take on it. Dalton Kin Kay, the top

1595
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 2: draft choice is gonna be working in the middle of

1596
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 2: the field, Easier throws, higher percentage throws for Josh Allen.

1597
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 2: They've got a slot receiver who can move inside in

1598
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 2: Trent Sherfield, who has been dynamite since he got here.

1599
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: He's clearly the team's number three receiver. And you have

1600
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 2: a game breaking back now in James Cook not to

1601
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: mention two big backs in Murray and Damian Harris who

1602
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 2: can run capably between the tackles and keep you in

1603
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 2: favorable down in distance. This is all screaming to me,

1604
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 2: high efficiency offense this year instead of the long ball.

1605
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 2: Do you do you see the same things I'm seeing?

1606
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's more.

1607
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 9: Yet to your point, it's about having a Plan B

1608
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 9: when Plan A is not available to you. I mean,

1609
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 9: I think every offense with a quarterback like Josh Allen

1610
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 9: or Patrick Mahomes, you want to bomb the ball down

1611
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 9: the field. You want the opponent to have to play

1612
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 9: their safeties deep and be scared.

1613
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 5: Of that man.

1614
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 9: Just one play you could totally shift the complexion of

1615
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 9: a game. And so I don't think you ever want

1616
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 9: to lose that. I think every offense is looking for that.

1617
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 9: But to your point, Chris, I think you need to

1618
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 9: have a plan being I thought the bill showed that

1619
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 9: at times.

1620
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 7: Last year wasn't consistent.

1621
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 9: It wasn't like every week you thought, all right, if

1622
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 9: teams want to take away the default, they could just

1623
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 9: methodically nine play drives seventy three yards, move it down

1624
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 9: the field.

1625
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 7: No problems. That wasn't it.

1626
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 9: I mean a lot of times it was Josh Allen,

1627
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 9: do you know, putting on his cape and kind of

1628
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 9: helping them get there. So yeah, I think you want

1629
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 9: to make life easier for your quarterbacks. I think you

1630
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 9: want to have more options where a lot of these

1631
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 9: defenses around the league they're just prioritizing no explosive place,

1632
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 9: no explode, like to a crazy degree where I watch

1633
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 9: it and I'm like, I don't recognize these defensive schemes

1634
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 9: of my youth anymore, where it was all about, you know,

1635
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 9: blitz and make the quarterback uncomfortables.

1636
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 7: The opposite of that, it's like sit back.

1637
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 9: If they want to complete you know, six seven yard

1638
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,839
Speaker 9: passes and run the ball for nine, ten to eleven plays,

1639
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 9: we'll let them do that.

1640
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 7: We think they're going to screw up at some point.

1641
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 7: Offenses need to show hey, no, we can do that.

1642
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 9: And so yeah, I think to your point, some of

1643
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 9: the players you mentioned, it is a little wait and see,

1644
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 9: you know, tight ends. I'm excited about Daltonton Kaid. Historically

1645
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 9: tight ends in their rookie seasons. It's been kind of

1646
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 9: a longer, you know, grownker where you kind of have

1647
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 9: to wait two years, three years, for those guys to

1648
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 9: become what they are now. There are obvious exceptions, so

1649
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 9: I think he's going to be a fun player to

1650
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 9: watch there. But even having a healthy Gabe Davis, like

1651
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 9: you mentioned Trent Shrfield, having James Cook back there, and

1652
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 9: even some of the stuff they did with the offensive line,

1653
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 9: I do feel like they have kind of more of

1654
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 9: those answers, more of those options available to them maybe

1655
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 9: than they had in the past.

1656
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: And I get it too, and we do this a lot,

1657
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 1: particularly sitting here in these two chairs. You kind of

1658
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: pick apart what was wrong with the Bills last year,

1659
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 1: why it was such a and you forget that it

1660
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: was the number two offense overall in the league. They

1661
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: were number one and third down, they had the second

1662
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: fewest drives ending a punt or a turnover, and that

1663
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: was for a team that turned it over way too much.

1664
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: And you get to the point where the thing that

1665
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: sets them apart these teams apart or they have a

1666
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: quarterback like Josh Allen or Pat Mahomes or some of

1667
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: the other guys who can cover up whatever happens or

1668
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 1: create something out where nothing was gonna be had, is

1669
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: that may never change. I mean, you can scheme and

1670
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: you can get all these players. You can switch out

1671
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: these players. But as long as you these teams have

1672
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: these guys taking snaps, they're gonna be hard to beat.

1673
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, Josh Allen the last two years has

1674
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 9: had over four thousand yards passing over seven hundred yards rushing.

1675
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 9: That's only been done one other time in NFL history.

1676
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 9: Cam Newton did it in twenty fifteen, I think it was.

1677
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 9: And so I was just looking at that this off

1678
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 9: seas and going, man, I'm probably guilty of taking the

1679
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 9: guy for granted when you ask what's on his plate,

1680
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 9: how he's asked to kind of carry that load. Part

1681
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 9: of what I love about Alan, it's kind of his

1682
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 9: gift and his curse is that he plays every play

1683
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 9: like it's the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl and

1684
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 9: his legacy is on the line. And so sometimes I

1685
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 9: look at that and go, oh, you know, don't put

1686
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 9: your body in harm's way.

1687
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 7: It's week three, it's the third quarter, you have a

1688
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 7: ten point lead. And other times I look at that

1689
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:33,799
Speaker 7: and go, I love.

1690
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 9: This, Like this is why we watch sports to see

1691
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 9: athletes this special going all out on every single snap.

1692
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 9: So I think at some point he's probably going to

1693
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 9: have to find that ballast. But man, to this point,

1694
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 9: he's just shown capable of carrying that load. Now, to

1695
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 9: your point, you don't always want to make the quarterback

1696
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 9: have to do that play in and play out, weekend

1697
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 9: and week out. And so I think that speaks to

1698
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 9: some of the moves the Bills have made this offseason

1699
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 9: and kind of what their approach might be is, hey,

1700
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 9: let's pick our spot with when we ask our quarterback

1701
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 9: to do that. We want him to be healthy, We

1702
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 9: want him to be healthy in the playoffs, and so

1703
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 9: let's try to make life a little bit easier for

1704
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 9: him or give him more answers to the problems defenses

1705
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 9: are posing earlier in the season.

1706
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 2: Sheil, thanks very much for the time we are out

1707
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 2: of it. Unfortunately, enjoy the start of the regular season.

1708
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,320
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1709
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1710
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Speaker 7: Thanks guys, appreciate it.

1711
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Speaker 3: Take care all right.

1712
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Speaker 2: Here live for Spround Steve Tasker Steve. Bill Belichick did

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Speaker 2: it today. We hear often about how sometimes coaches use

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Speaker 2: double negatives and it kind of crosses people up. Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick jumped the shark a quadruple negative quote today, Are

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Speaker 2: you ready?

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Speaker 3: Quote?

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Speaker 2: Not all the players that you would ask about who

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Speaker 2: aren't here aren't necessarily not going to be back here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: But I think that he said it properly. I think

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Speaker 2: he landed it amazing. Tomorrow's show, we'll be breaking down

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Speaker 2: the Bill's fifty three man roster with the one and

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Speaker 2: only Greg co Sell from NFL Films. Be sure you

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Speaker 2: tune in we'll see you tomorrow at one