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Speaker 2: Thank you. I think we've hit the point where we

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Speaker 2: Questions of the day are coming to become a thing

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Speaker 2: there because AJA teams are officially calling about him. Of

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Speaker 1: How many more days until the trick deadline?

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Speaker 2: Almost Monday?

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Speaker 1: I mean five more days?

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Speaker 4: Five more days and we can wait another year until

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Speaker 2: Like I it's the coolest thing. It's not.

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Speaker 4: I did a radio interview in Atlanta today and they

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Speaker 1: I don't need it. I don't need this.

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Speaker 4: And I know Baseball America loves this because, like I said,

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Speaker 4: I know it's not going to be that person. But

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I just I just want to skip ahead

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, what what what? First of all,

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Speaker 2: you're acting like your favorite movie is Click, that Adam

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Speaker 2: perspective wishes he didn't fast forward. But wait, Also, Adrian,

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Speaker 2: I don't care if you don't know all the prospects.

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Speaker 2: who the Braves are giving up. We have people on

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Speaker 2: our FT network that can come on. But if Google

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Speaker 2: does go to the Braves and they win a World Series,

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Speaker 2: that makes this time of year worth everything. And that's

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Speaker 4: You still have our own opinion, Scout, and that's your opinion,

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Speaker 4: is terk'schooble going to get you? It was like with

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Speaker 1: But all the rest of it is all speculation.

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Speaker 3: It is speculation. But I also enjoy the like I

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Speaker 1: I think there's a line of our team would be

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Speaker 1: We need both, no problem. But he said, I think

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Speaker 5: Since Bryce thinking about it, I don't really since anybody

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Speaker 5: So again, players like being GM's and make them calls and.

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Speaker 1: To other people's money. So I just let it go

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Speaker 1: To get better. You know we're gonna try to get

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Speaker 5: No, I just don't like I don't like it from

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Speaker 1: You should always.

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Speaker 5: Incrementally try to get better, no matter who you are.

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Speaker 5: If you're you're the Dodgers who've won too straight they're

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Speaker 5: Then you're saying something about one of our players that you.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna say what he wants, So I'm not really

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Speaker 1: I heard this. This is not the first time I've

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you think what Bryce said is fine and

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, AJ, then you can't like what

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Speaker 2: Don Mattingly said because he basically went against him. Then

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Speaker 4: Uh No, Donnie was trying to diffuse it and just

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Speaker 4: put an end to it and say, hey, Bryce can

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with either one of.

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Speaker 4: Them saying this. This is Bryce says he wants some help. Okay,

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Speaker 4: he has righteo's opinion. Don Mattingly said that, and Don

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Do I like it that he's saying this.

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Speaker 4: No, But at the same time, I have to shut

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Speaker 1: So both of them did their job. Both of them

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Speaker 4: Again, I think this is getting blown way out of

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Speaker 3: I love this because we get to see the how

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Speaker 3: Don Mattingly thinks he would have handled it when he

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Speaker 3: So they're like, kind of on that page. Isn't this

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Speaker 2: Sure, but I've covered Don Mattingly for a long time.

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Speaker 2: I know you guys know him and have covered him too.

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Speaker 2: The first part of that quote is something that you

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Speaker 2: don't see very often from him, like the oh, you know,

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Speaker 2: players from commenting about how they feel. I agree with you, guys,

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Speaker 2: Bryce Harper should be able to say, yeah, we need help.

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Speaker 2: Why do they need Well, first of all, if you're

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Speaker 2: they do need help. It's fair for him to say that.

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Speaker 2: And I do think that you don't think that this

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Speaker 2: And they were really close and all of that, but

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Speaker 2: it's it's a few guys and then and we've seen

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Speaker 2: It's it's top heavy here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, yes, Bryce would love somebody to protect him.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he wants somebody protecting him. I can get I

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Speaker 3: can get on board with that theory. But this is what.

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Speaker 3: Just put a microphone in front of every one of

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Speaker 3: What about Oh? I don't think they're going to get

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Speaker 3: rid of that guy. You know, those conversations do happen

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Speaker 3: all the time because players have a lot of time

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Speaker 2: Okay, so nothing.

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Speaker 4: Guys do this all the time. They just doesn't get public.

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Speaker 4: And Bryce didn't call anybody out specifically. Bryce didn't say

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Speaker 4: every team out there would say I could use another starter, pitcher, hitter.

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Speaker 1: Not the Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: The Dodgers might not say this, but the Dodgers guys

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Speaker 1: Boom done. Okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: Only thing I'll point out one more time is the

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Speaker 2: let it go at that. Come on from Don Mattingly,

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Speaker 2: You think that means nothing.

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Speaker 1: He's shutting it down. He's trying to shut it down.

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Speaker 1: He's telling the truth. Guys trying to him. We do

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Speaker 1: it on the show, Scott, We do it on the

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Speaker 4: We do it all the time. He's just basically saying,

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Speaker 1: It's over with. Guys do this all the time.

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Speaker 4: Don Mattingly was trying to be as politically correct as

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. I think a lot of fans looked

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Speaker 4: I remember when I broke my wrist. I broke my

433
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Speaker 4: left wrist and it was in the middle of August

434
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Speaker 4: and the White Sox Radaway was like, well, you're out

435
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Speaker 4: for the year.

436
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Speaker 1: You have to have surgery.

437
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Speaker 4: And I was like after they couldn't find on the

438
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Speaker 4: original X ray anything wrong with it. They're just like, oh,

439
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,959
Speaker 4: it's just a bruise, would just heat nice and then

440
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 4: boom a couple of days later, it's not getting any better.

441
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Speaker 4: You'll get more imaging, they find what's broken, and then

442
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Speaker 4: they say, oh, you're out for the season automatically, and

443
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 4: then as the player, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's

444
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Speaker 4: take a let's take a step back here. You have

445
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Speaker 4: the right to a second opinion. I'm sure. I'm sure

446
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Speaker 4: meat is doing this. Like I fowt a guy named

447
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Speaker 4: Tom Graham who was in Cleveland at the time.

448
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Speaker 1: Who was the number one hand guy in the world.

449
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Speaker 4: We sat down for hours and discussed whether I should

450
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Speaker 4: have surgery. And then the question I always ask a doctor,

451
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Speaker 4: if I was your son and you were giving me advice,

452
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Speaker 4: what would you do? And you basically that out there,

453
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't do the surgery they want you to have.

454
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Speaker 4: I think you'll be fine, You'll be able to heal.

455
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Speaker 4: It's just going to be pain tolerance. And I was

456
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Speaker 4: back playing in two weeks.

457
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Speaker 2: Now.

458
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Speaker 1: Should I have been I don't know.

459
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Speaker 4: But I wanted to finish the year and I wanted

460
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Speaker 4: to not be hurt for that rest of the year,

461
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Speaker 4: for the last six weeks, So I played the last

462
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Speaker 4: month of the year with a broken wrist. Okay, fine,

463
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Speaker 4: now me, I don't know what his I don't know

464
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 4: what his diagnosis is. I don't know where he's at,

465
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Speaker 4: but I know he's having the best year of his career.

466
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Speaker 4: So he doesn't want it to end. So he's going

467
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Speaker 4: to do everything in his power to get back on

468
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Speaker 4: the field. And if you're the Red Sox, man, it's

469
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Speaker 4: just bad luck. It is bad luck. It could have

470
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Speaker 4: happened to any time, any point anywhere. If you're the

471
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Speaker 4: if you're the if you're the Gnats, you're like, who,

472
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Speaker 4: we dodged a bullet and we got Connolly early. Wow,

473
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Speaker 4: that's amazing. And if you're the Red Sox, you got

474
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Speaker 4: to just keep on truck and keep playing. Well, I

475
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Speaker 4: hope you're pitching holds up and find another bat because

476
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Speaker 4: that no one's gonna feel sorry for you.

477
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Speaker 1: I promise, yeah, I don't.

478
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any other way than just continue

479
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 3: to truck on and honestly, like, if you're the Gnats,

480
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 3: you've made hitters this year, so deal from your hitters

481
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: game pitchers like they did with Early, and continue from there.

482
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Speaker 3: If you're the Red Sox, they I love their pitching

483
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Speaker 3: lab or what they've created with pitching. That's why they

484
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 3: didn't fire any of those dudes, so they feel like

485
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 3: they can create pitching. They can they have pitching, and

486
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Speaker 3: if they don't rate now, you know, or if they

487
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Speaker 3: get rid of some of these guys right now, they

488
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Speaker 3: can create more pitching. So continue to trade from that

489
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Speaker 3: because if they truly think they're as good as they're

490
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 3: eighteen of twenty wins, then yeah, you have to push in.

491
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Speaker 3: You have to make that move, as Jim said, for

492
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Speaker 3: a netto because he's going to give you ten to

493
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Speaker 3: fifteen homers for the rest of the season. You're talking

494
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Speaker 3: about a guy that's controllable at a position that you

495
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Speaker 3: know what, maybe they're out of love for Trevor Story.

496
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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, and that's part of the equation here too.

497
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Speaker 2: For the Red Sox. You know, Trevor Story is still out,

498
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: he's been out since late May. Hernie a surgery for him.

499
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Speaker 2: And then you've got you know, Marcella Meyer was supposed

500
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Speaker 2: to have a big year. He's had his fair share

501
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Speaker 2: of injuries and underperformance so far this season. So you know,

502
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 2: there are some guys that could come back and make

503
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Speaker 2: an impact. The problem is when you're Boston made this

504
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 2: awesome winning streak run, you're still a fringe playoff team, like,

505
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: they still need to continue to truck forward from here.

506
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: You can't take a step back. So that's why they're

507
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 2: looking for some immediate reinforcements. You only have a few

508
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: days to figure this out. Also, they're not the only

509
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: ones that are interested in Zach Nedo right now. So

510
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: for example, Robert Murray from fan Sided an FT insider,

511
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Speaker 2: reported that the Rays are looking into Nedo. They're also

512
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 2: looking into Freddy Peralta. Those are some players that they

513
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: have interested. So I'm like, Okay, the Rays have prospect capital,

514
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 2: they can definitely keep up in a trade with the

515
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Speaker 2: Red Sox if they're bidding for the same player at

516
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: AJ and Tampa Bay might make a big splash like

517
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Speaker 2: that and then send Boston back to the drawing board.

518
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 2: And I know that's not the only player that's available,

519
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 2: but just using someone like Neto as a prime example

520
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: here of someone that will give you above average offense,

521
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: different kind offensive profile, but going to give you a

522
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 2: lot of pop. I know some people in the chat

523
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: we're talking about the plate discipline and all that, Okay,

524
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 2: I mean every player has a different profile. That's what

525
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: Zach Netto brings to the table. He's an a swing,

526
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: big home run guy right, going for thirty plus from

527
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: the middle infield. So anyway, thoughts on Neto and Rai's

528
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: interest and how this could become you know something interesting

529
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: here if they even want to trade him, Let's remember

530
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 2: what Ken rosant, He's going to be already Morino might

531
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Speaker 2: not trade him.

532
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to be traded.

533
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Speaker 4: I don't think Neto's gonna be traded because already Morino

534
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 4: likes stars, and I think that already Mano thinks that

535
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 4: Neto's a star, so I don't think he wants to

536
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 4: trade him. That's one of the reasons why Croud has

537
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 4: been there and already loves position player stars. So I

538
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 4: don't think he's going to be treated. But this goes

539
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: back to the Rays. They're casting a wide net to

540
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 4: see because they what we were just told, what were

541
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 4: we just told that they think this is their chance

542
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 4: to really make a run in the American League because

543
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 4: it's so down. So I think that Eric Neander and

544
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Speaker 4: those get in the front office, and Kevin Cash and

545
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 4: and all the rest of the raised people are saying,

546
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 4: we got a chance to hear guys to at least

547
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 4: make the World Series because the American League is so down,

548
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Speaker 4: and I think Netto is a name that has been

549
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: talked about. Now can they get them? I don't know, but.

550
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Speaker 1: I think the Rays are going to try everything they

551
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Speaker 1: can to really improve this team.

552
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Speaker 3: I don't I mean, I'm not saying they're not going

553
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Speaker 3: to try to improve the team. I just don't think

554
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 3: Netto's a guy if he were on if he were

555
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: on the Rays roster, we'd be talking about getting to

556
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Speaker 3: that point where the Rays get rid of a player

557
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Speaker 3: like this and all of a sudden they're going to

558
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Speaker 3: go and pick him up. Like it's not that he's

559
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Speaker 3: a he's not a star. He's the type of guy

560
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Speaker 3: that the Rays are like, oh we can we can

561
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Speaker 3: definitely flip this. And I think this is the This

562
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: is when the Red Sox have to move. They were

563
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 3: reluctant to move when any bats they balked at Alex Bregman.

564
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Speaker 3: I think Bregman wanted to come back. He told them

565
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 3: what it was going to take, and they balked on it.

566
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Speaker 3: Whether it's Breslo or front office. Like, to me, this

567
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: is when Boston while they're still a fringe team, and

568
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: I think, you know, that winning streak really gave them

569
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: a little bit of you know, makeup on a pig,

570
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 3: a little false, false evaluation of themselves. I think they

571
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: can still add to this team for the coming years.

572
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: And the Marcella Meyer thing not being able to play

573
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: short or not not having as good a year like

574
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: he was a shortstop coming up. You don't just like

575
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 3: go to the big leagues and then say, hey, you

576
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: know what, we're gonna play at third. We're gonna play

577
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: at second. But you're still supposed to hit during this

578
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: whole time, and you're supposed to play through injuries. I

579
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 3: think that's tough to ask of a young player, but

580
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 3: they're doing it because they weren't willing to bring in

581
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 3: that older veteran guy who should be able to do that,

582
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Speaker 3: not a young twenty two to twenty three year old.

583
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Speaker 2: You know. Also, I like to give context on how

584
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: the league evaluates players. To put it simply for wins

585
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 2: above replacement, right, and whatever the league or many teams

586
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: use their version, it's very very similar to the war

587
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: number zero to two is more of like your bench

588
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: player or whatever, you know, low end starter. When we

589
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: get to the four to five range, that's actually a

590
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 2: star player. Two to three is like solid every day guy.

591
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: Four to five is when you're getting to all star status,

592
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: and then when you're getting to six to seven, that's

593
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: superstar status, and then MVP status above that. Okay, zach

594
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: netto Baseball Reference War twenty twenty four or five point

595
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Speaker 2: one twenty twenty five, five point three currently two point

596
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: nine on pace for probably pretty close to five. The

597
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 2: league is saying this a star player, I should get

598
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: a All Star turn. When you watch him, do you

599
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: necessarily think that? I don't know. At some times sometimes

600
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Speaker 2: you do. I don't know if that would be like

601
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: coming to mind right away. And I don't even know

602
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: if he's made an All Star team yet. Nope, he hasn't.

603
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: But that is the evaluation point. So it's going to

604
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: be painful if you're trading for control of a shortstop

605
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: who is looked at as a star player.

606
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I think the eye test.

607
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: I think the eye test there has to stand out

608
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 4: a little bit because if you ask people are on

609
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: the Angels in putting people on Halo territory, they don't

610
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Speaker 4: think that he is that right?

611
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

612
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: And think you're saying that they don't think that he

613
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: is a star and they watch him every night, so yeah,

614
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I know the numbers are the numbers, but

615
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 4: what is he two thirty with nineteen?

616
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: What is it just numbers?

617
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 2: I forget exactly what his numbers are?

618
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 3: Nineteen?

619
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Speaker 1: I mean this two thirty nineteen, you know, seven sixty two? Ops?

620
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Speaker 4: I mean is that a five war player? I guess

621
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Speaker 4: it is in today's game, So I mean strikeouts. There's

622
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: a lot of strikeouts in there, not a ton of wars.

623
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Speaker 1: I mean only two according to MLB.

624
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: So well that's the MLB. I think that's the firefighters.

625
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: No, I know, I know war, but that's.

626
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Speaker 2: The MLB version.

627
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Speaker 3: That's why.

628
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: That's why, because I agree not everyone now everyone calculated

629
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: the same.

630
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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

631
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Speaker 4: I think zach Ndo is a really good player, and

632
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: I think he could help some teams, but I don't

633
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 4: know if he's franchise altering like I think some people

634
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: might be thinking he is.

635
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That's fair. It's a good combo. And now

636
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: the Red Sox have to go back to the drawing

637
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: board and they're gonna have to compete because there's just

638
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: not a ton necessary available. We're not hearing a ton

639
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: of teams. Go all right, we're throwing the towel in

640
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: right now, let's step aside for one quick minute and

641
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: then we'll give you a show. Hey, Otani update and

642
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: much more news to cover here.

643
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 4: Hey, anywhere I go in baseball these days, all I

644
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 4: hear about is analytics and data and exit velocity and

645
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 4: pitch grips and spin rates and all this inverted vertical

646
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 4: break and everything that you're hearing about. It can all

647
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440
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Speaker 2: suck because he's still playing, he's hitting. It's just a

663
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Speaker 2: matter of when he'll be pitching again, Katie Wu from

664
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Speaker 2: Dodger's Territory and the Athletics said, speaking to the media

665
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Speaker 2: for the first time since before the break, Otani said

666
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: both his left knee and right bicep are not one

667
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: hundred percent, which further factored into him not throwing the

668
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: bullpen last weekend. Dave Roberts said the Dodgers still expect

669
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Speaker 2: Otani to pitch in October, so this sounds like it'll

670
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: be some extended time away from the mound here that

671
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: will continue for the Dodgers. We know that right We've

672
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Speaker 2: talked about the Cy Young race being done for him

673
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: and that whole song and dance. Let's relate it to

674
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Speaker 2: what's going on right now. Aj do you think that

675
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: the Dodgers should be concerned in terms of what their

676
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: rotation is going to look like in October or everything

677
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: is still in line? Is in Katie's articles, she almost

678
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: is writing how the Dodgers might sell at the deadline,

679
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: not anybody significant. But they get into these roster crunches,

680
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: and they did sell a little bit last year at

681
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: the deadline with someone like Dustin May It just they'll

682
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: look at somebody and be like, oh, this is this

683
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: is not a five starter for us anymore. This is

684
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: not a fourth or fifth outfielder for us anymore. Let's

685
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: trade him away and replenish the farm system. So thoughts

686
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: on what the rotation could look like and if the

687
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: Dodgers are going to end up selling you know, one

688
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: of their back end roster guys.

689
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: I mean the Dodgers. Anything is possible for the Dodgs.

690
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: You know how show heard his vice? Have I heard

691
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 4: from someone? Because when he was carrying the World Series

692
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 4: trophies into the Oval office and putting him on the

693
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: desk of the office, did you guys see that?

694
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Speaker 1: But he was like a look at me, guys, I

695
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Speaker 1: got two.

696
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Speaker 4: Now because I'm not on the Angels anymore. But uh yeah, listen,

697
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Speaker 4: I don't know. This is a question that I had

698
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: from the get go. If you guys remember what Hams

699
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: of Showy Wake seven goes Man, pitching is really hard.

700
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Speaker 4: I don't want to do that anymore. I just want

701
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 4: to be a hitter. Is the contract still worth it? It is, absolutely,

702
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: but the numbers look a little bit differently. So do

703
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Speaker 4: I think they're gonna make a move. Yes, I think

704
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 4: they're gonna make a move. Do I think that they

705
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 4: will deal anyone significant away, No, But they make They

706
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 4: love to tweak. They're always tweaking. And the reason they

707
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: can tweak is because even some of their veteran guys

708
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: of Taoscar Hernandez, we heard team other teams would love

709
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: to have a Taioscar Hernandez Phillies.

710
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Speaker 1: They probably take Tioscar Hernandez right now.

711
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 4: They'd have to eat a lot of his money, but

712
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: they would probably take him because he would be a

713
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: right handed hitting outfielder that has playoff experience. So I

714
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: think the Dodgers will make moves. I just don't know

715
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Speaker 4: that the Dodgers will make a move where we're like, Wow,

716
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: we're blown away by what they just did.

717
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure who said it. I might even ken

718
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: the Dodgers are just lurking around the backboard. So when

719
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: a team fumbles, and this is where a lot of

720
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: this is forgotten, fans just think Dodgers spend all the

721
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: money they get everybody. They're just lurking around the backboard,

722
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: and when there's a rebound, they don't just put it

723
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: back up into the hoop. They dunk on the league.

724
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: So yes, I would agree with AJ that they're not

725
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: going to make any like they don't feel like they

726
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 3: need to make moves. Maybe what Katie said, Hey, you

727
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: know what, replenish a farm system? Always looking to make moves.

728
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. Just be careful. They're always lurking because

729
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: they have a lot of value and they're never afraid

730
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Speaker 3: of making the big move when other teams in this

731
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 3: situation are afraid of making the big move.

732
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Speaker 2: Right, And she mentioned in the article names like Alex

733
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: Call and Eric Lower as potential trade pieces for the Dodgers.

734
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: So we need to figure out Otani's pitching status eventually. AJ.

735
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: Tyler Glass now has missed most of the year. Blake

736
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: Snell's almost back, He's missed most of the year. Yamamoto

737
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 2: is a dog in a gy and he's there for them.

738
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Speaker 2: But those are the has been better they're relying on.

739
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: I know, do you trust him in a playoff start? No?

740
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Speaker 1: But he's been better.

741
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: I agree, I mean he's been better. I trust.

742
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: I trust him giving you innings right now, say what

743
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 3: I've seen.

744
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 4: His last James ty On, don't say that. Because I

745
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 4: said about James and ty On yesterday. Cup fans are

746
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: after me with pitchforks.

747
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh fine, I don't care Jameson.

748
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 4: And then, by the way, and I was gonna say

749
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 4: this about yesterdays show when I said Shoda has been good,

750
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 4: not great, They're like, oh, Tyan's given up twenty five,

751
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 4: homers Well show's given up twenty two and has a

752
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 4: three point ninety race. I'm like, okay, I mean he's

753
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: been good, he hasn't been great. Shoda hasn't been as

754
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 4: great as he was the first year.

755
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. But Cubs fans, I love you.

756
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 4: I'll see you on Saturday when the Yankees are in

757
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 4: town so you can all wait.

758
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that. You already just just

759
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: sprinkled it in you. You are always around the corner

760
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: for Cubs fans, always swimming in their heads.

761
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm always around the corner for comments in general.

762
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: I had a Dodgers fan just recently say oh, this

763
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: has become an anti Dodgers show. I'm like, oh my gosh,

764
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: here we go we hate them all.

765
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was probably Cner account.

766
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Speaker 2: It could have been. Let me get back on track. Yes,

767
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: we didn't mention this, but the Rokie Suzaki longer glove

768
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: to prevent pitch tipping. I buy that story. They said

769
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: they felt like he was tipping eyewashed from prats. I

770
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: mean he's also he's also throwing what's called strikes, and

771
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: that helps you to not record what's called walks. That's

772
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 2: a big thing too, is if you have good stuff

773
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: landed in the zone and then they go boom, strike one.

774
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: And then also that stuff can go outside of the

775
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Speaker 2: zone and they chase it. It's a crazy, crazy concept

776
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: when I try to explain people how complicated my job

777
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: is to talk baseball all the time. Anyway, we'll see,

778
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: we'll see what October looks like for the Dodgers. And yes,

779
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 2: let's give the Dodgers territory promo before we talk about

780
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: the mess in San Francisco. Yes, Kratz, Clint, Katie Alana Dodgers' territory.

781
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 2: I saw the spot you guys did with Katie the

782
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: other day, and it was good fun and good information,

783
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Speaker 2: and that's what you're looking for in your Baseball content

784
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: part of the FT Network. Go get the show. Okay,

785
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: staying in the NL West. Not one, not two, but

786
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 2: three injuries for the Giants. This really sucks. Casey Schmidt

787
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: torn meniscus in his left knee. He's been their best player.

788
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: I think he was on pace for thirty plus homers.

789
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: He's been awesome, Just an awesome player who took a

790
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 2: little time to become his true self in the major leagues.

791
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: And teams were apparently calling about him left and right,

792
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: and the Giants weren't going to trade him anyway. But

793
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: he'll miss some time. That's one. Let's rack all of

794
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 2: them and then we'll get responses. Here more bad news

795
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 2: for the Giants. This is all in the past twenty

796
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: four hours. This is basically all last night. Trevor McDonald

797
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: ucl reconstruction surgery is going to go down for him

798
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: next week. He's shown some flashes this year. And then

799
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: number three update on Harrison Bader from Alex Pavlovich. He

800
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: went to see a specialist for his planter fasciitis. The

801
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: Giants announced that Bader had a scooter accident on Saturday

802
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: night early Sunday morning and he further injured that left foot.

803
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: He's going to get an MRI for the new injury.

804
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: So those reports all came out around the same time there,

805
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: and it's it's just a freaking disaster in San Francisco

806
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: this year. Now the injuries are starting to pile up

807
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: on top of that. It wasn't even one of those

808
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 2: situations where you know how sometimes aj they go, oh, well,

809
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: you know, this isn't our year, everyone's hurt. It wasn't

810
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: really that for San Francisco. Now the injuries are starting

811
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: to pile up on top of that, and they're not

812
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: in it, so they're selling and they will sell.

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Speaker 1: It's been just a disaster of a season for the Giants.

814
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. There's no other way to put it.

815
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Speaker 4: From everything they could have gone wrong has gone wrong

816
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: for him. But by the way, I just want to

817
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: say this about the fasciitis. I've had it.

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Speaker 1: It sucks, man.

819
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 4: I don't know how to get rid of it. I

820
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 4: don't know how they say you get shots. I won't

821
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 4: get a shot on my foot because it just doesn't

822
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 4: seem like it's going to do anything. But I have it.

823
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 4: I've had it for a while. That junk hurts, man.

824
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 4: It hurts every day, and then a scooter accident on

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Speaker 4: top of it with Harrison Vader. I mean, I remember

826
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: guys used to ride their scooters San Francisco Park all

827
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Speaker 4: the time, even back when I was playing there.

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Speaker 1: I refuse to do it.

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Speaker 4: But it's the first time I remember a guy getting

830
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Speaker 4: in a scooter accent hurting their fasci I just wear.

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Speaker 1: So it's just bad. Look, Casey Schmidt. Bad look.

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Speaker 4: Everything everything that could go wrong, including scooters, has gone wrong.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting to me that they wouldn't have traded Casey Schmidt.

834
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 3: Interesting to me that you have a guy who's got

835
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Speaker 3: like he's it in two seventy with like a three

836
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: hundred on base percentage. Casey Schmid's having a great year.

837
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Speaker 3: But to me, if I'm the Giants, I am selling

838
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: high in a market that wanted right handed bats. It's

839
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: a mute point. It's a mute point, and it's tough

840
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: because now it really just kind of leaves the Giants

841
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 3: with you know, they're just expiring. Were really getting for

842
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: Robbie Ray? What are you really getting for the most

843
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: traded player in the last five years? And Luisa Rais,

844
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: who no teams really wanted to pay for anyway. I

845
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: just think there's Yeah, it's tough because now you've got

846
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Speaker 3: to run it back next year, and is Casey Schmid

847
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: can to have the same type of year you hope?

848
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: So I think there's flashes, But again with the lack

849
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 3: of plate discipline, is there really a ton of value

850
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Speaker 3: for him moving forwards.

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes you look at your ball club and

852
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: for the Giants, they dislike it so much that they're like, well,

853
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: this guy's been our best player. For a bad team

854
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: to trade away their best player under years of control,

855
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 2: and he can play a number of positions. That's probably

856
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: part of the thought process. And also, I mean he's

857
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: got twenty one home runs this year as a Giant player,

858
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: that's really difficult. I mean, the amount of power that

859
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: goes to die in that franchise when it comes from

860
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Speaker 2: else somewhere else. I think maybe they just felt like

861
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: they found the right fit for the organization, and you know,

862
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: sometimes it's like this is the right type of player

863
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: that we want within the org. Agent you can speak

864
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: to this. Look at the White Sox turnaround the types

865
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 2: of players that they had in the clubhouse two three

866
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: years ago versus the guys that are showing up now

867
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: that can't wait to get there. The guys, and I'm generalizing,

868
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: there were plenty that wanted to be there, but there

869
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: were definitely some guys that were just always out and

870
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: it felt like hit by pitch, I'm going down. While

871
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: now it's like they've got a guy who purposely basically

872
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: gets hit by pitches to get on. Basin loves it.

873
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's a different thing.

874
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 4: But I mean the biggest thing for me is Raffi Devers,

875
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: Like Raffie Devers was supposed to be that great star.

876
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 4: He has a materialized right William Domas signs the big

877
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 4: contract over there.

878
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: He hasn't had a great year.

879
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 4: Logan Web's been fine, but Robbie Ray has been in

880
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: and out of pitching up and down as far as

881
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 4: his return right, It's just it's just how worked. I mean,

882
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 4: Tody Vitello, you can argue whatever with him, and hasn't worked.

883
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they have the worst records.

884
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 4: It's just been a comedy of errors, which sucks because

885
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: I like Buster Posey and I want him to succeed

886
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 4: because I want more baseball people in front office roles.

887
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: But it just hasn't worked.

888
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: We haven't heard much about a Dominis, and it doesn't

889
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: sound like teams have crazy interest. But do you think

890
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: there's any world where the Giants eats some money and

891
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: then trade him away. No, he hasn't been terrible, he's

892
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: just been You don't think he's a serviceable middle infielder.

893
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: No, I do, But I think there's I think there's

894
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 3: enough value for the Giants to keep him. That's why

895
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: they signed him when other teams weren't willing to go

896
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: that big. And I think he costs too much for

897
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: the value that he's bringing. I mean, I think his

898
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: numbers I would have to look it up here, but

899
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 3: I think his numbers are pretty much on par with

900
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 3: where he had been throughout his career except for yeah,

901
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: I mean he's actually above one eight one eight ops plus,

902
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: but his best year was twenty twenty one when he

903
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 3: went over to the Brewers from the Race. So I

904
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: think I think he adds a culture to that lineup

905
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: that I think that's what they paid for. And I

906
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: think moving forward, he's going to be the shortstop unless

907
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 3: they have somebody coming up through the ranks. So I

908
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think the fit is there throughout

909
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: the league for him, somewhere.

910
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: Else is short. You're right about twenty twenty one for

911
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: a Domis. That was the standout year since then. If

912
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: you look, for example, at last year AJ, that was

913
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: right up there with a top season of a Damas

914
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty two through twenty twenty five.

915
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: I just think that I think teams look at him

916
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 4: as a one dimensional guy because his defense isn't great

917
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 4: and they want defense. He doesn't steal a lot of bases.

918
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 4: They just look at him. I think is a power

919
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 4: guy and his defense isn't enough to make up for

920
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 4: the lack of other stuff and the amount of money

921
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: he's being paid. Teams are like, we're not doing that.

922
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 4: We're not going to take that on as an aging player.

923
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 4: I mean, he's not that old, but as an aging

924
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 4: player in today's game at a premium defensive position, he

925
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: doesn't play defense great.

926
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: It's just a lot for teams to take on. That's

927
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: why there's no interest in him.

928
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 4: And I think he's a really good player, but it's

929
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 4: just the way of the game in today's world.

930
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: Thirty years old, everyone's looking for right handed pop. You

931
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: hit thirty home runs with the Giants, last year. It's

932
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 2: like forty five in most other parks, right, if you're

933
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: playing half your games in San Francisco. I don't know.

934
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: I just think he's being shit on a little bit

935
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: too much in terms of the industry perspective. I could

936
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 2: be off there, but playing the eye test game, AJ,

937
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: you know.

938
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: No, I agree.

939
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about me for.

940
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: A today's game.

941
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 4: In today's game, that's not the way it's looked at Scott.

942
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he's a good player, I really do.

943
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: But I just think he's making too much and his

944
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 4: defense doesn't rank up there high enough to where teams

945
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: are like, Okay, we can live with his defense being

946
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 4: a little bit bad, but he still hits thirty homers.

947
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 4: That's the teams are like, and he's thirty and he's

948
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: making this much money. It's just it's just not the

949
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 4: way teams evaluate guys anymore.

950
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: Well, for San Francisco Giants, fans hope that you can

951
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: get a nice return for a number of deals. And yeah,

952
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: I hope that they figure something out for at least

953
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: one of the big money players, because it sounds like

954
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: they're anxious to move one of them. I know it's

955
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: going to be very difficult to pull off, but most

956
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: likely you see more of the Robbie Ray Luis rays.

957
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: Those trades will definitely go down a few minutes. Left

958
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: a few things to show you. Did you guys see

959
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: the Alec Thomas collision? Oh the mascot there. We posted

960
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: about it and it picked up millions of views, and

961
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: it was actually from the weekend, and then we found

962
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: it a couple of days later, like nobody had really

963
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: put much up about it, but it was. It was

964
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 2: a tough collision. I think he's okay, but AJ, that

965
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: was a that was a hit. I think we do

966
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: we have it.

967
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was wondering did you get hurt because you

968
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: didn't hear anything about it. You know what's funny is

969
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 4: though that game was actually I remember I was watching

970
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 4: the Strippers and someone else play and then after that

971
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: they went to Okay see in the river Cats, And

972
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, wow, I wonder if I know anybody,

973
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 4: and I forgot Alec Thomas. Maybe if I had been

974
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 4: watching the game, he would have got a little more

975
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: attention from you, but wow, he got he got rocked.

976
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: No way saw it happening. You forget you forget that

977
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: they do those races. You forget that they do all

978
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: that stuff. And that guy was cooking. The mascot was

979
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 3: cooking on that scooter. Another scooter accident.

980
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: Right, I should mention, Yeah, this isn't running into someone.

981
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: This is scootering into someone. It's it's dangerous. So it's

982
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: on our FT Twitter from last night if you want

983
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: to check it out. That's one Two other things that

984
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 2: we posted about last night. One was Dean Kramer calling

985
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: out Pete Alonzo. Did you guys see that?

986
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 6: Yeah?

987
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: That was like I don't think Yeah, wasn't a big deal.

988
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: He was just asking.

989
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: Him because there's there's definitely some there's definitely places. Now.

990
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: I didn't go back and watch the replay, but I

991
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 3: just saw his reaction like can you see can you

992
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 3: can you see in Pete's like what?

993
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

994
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 3: Because you think about where the levels come together of

995
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: the stadiums, there's a gap and if it's early in

996
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: the game, midway through, sun can be poking through. We

997
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: just saw it the other day. The I think it

998
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 3: what didn't netto do a bounce pass from third base

999
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: in the shift to finished or to start the double

1000
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: play that there's the sun goes right through a gap

1001
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: and sometimes the right side of the infield, second base

1002
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: and first base have a tough time seeing the ball.

1003
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: There you go. Okay, So he was literally asking him

1004
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: can you see? Not trying to be offensive.

1005
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: No, I think it was.

1006
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know he wasn't trying to be offensive at all.

1007
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 4: If you ever been to Colorado, Colorado, the first baseman

1008
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 4: can't see and pictures of don't throw balls, cay can

1009
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 4: you see?

1010
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: M m. What about the umpire seeing Xander Bogart asked

1011
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: to challenge a pitch and him acting like he's so

1012
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: busy with the padres dugout that he can't acknowledge the challenge,

1013
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: the abs challenge.

1014
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: I'm just sure this is all this.

1015
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: This is something that I think is that I think

1016
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: I would have never thought of this, but it's shown

1017
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: up several times. Why can't the other guys? Why can't

1018
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: Why can't first or third base? It's probably easier for

1019
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 3: the first base umpire to see it. He's not involved

1020
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: in somebody yelling at the umpire and a dugout. Yeah,

1021
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: the umpire looked away, He looked away. I think there

1022
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: was another situation where umpire, why can't they pick it up?

1023
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 3: And be like, I did see that. It's almost like

1024
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: a check swing, like he clearly Xander clearly checked. I

1025
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: think Xander would have been wrong in this situation. So

1026
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 3: it's good he didn't use it. But it's the principle

1027
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: of it. Why can't the first and third base umpires

1028
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 3: also be watching and be like, hey, no, actually you

1029
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: did get it.

1030
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely it could happen, it just didn't. It seemed personal.

1031
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: We were tempted form show, but we're too busy with

1032
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: trade talk. AJ's request, of course, too busy with trade talk.

1033
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: After next week we talked ball, we talk games, but

1034
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: keep the trade questions coming. It's been awesome. Plenty of

1035
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: other insider guests joining us for some for some Christmas,

1036
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: for me, whatever holiday you want to say. For for

1037
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 2: a J. Kratzet on the way out.

1038
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: Sneaky suspicion that they're going to do something that we're

1039
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 3: going to be like, I didn't see that coming from

1040
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: the from the A's of Sacramento.

1041
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 2: I'd like to see it. Yeah, I mean, their their

1042
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: core is kind of disappointed this year too. I'd like

1043
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 2: to see they're.

1044
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: Going to do.

1045
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: We're going to get rid of some guys.

1046
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: That are going to get Of course, they need to

1047
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: get some long term pitching out.

1048
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: John Fisher is going to say, man, my payroll is

1049
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: way too high. I got to pair this thnk out quickly.

1050
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 3: Today's the time promised.

1051
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: Wait, it's not just John anymore, it's Mark Cuban. Maybe

1052
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: we'll get to that story next week. He is now

1053
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: partial owner of the A's. Anyway, we'll see y'all on Thursday.

1054
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,320
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