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Speaker 2: The polling is is horrible an under thirty five. It's

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Speaker 2: any economic pressure on them. They're still shipping out two

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Speaker 2: million barrels a day to the Chinese Commists party through

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Speaker 1: This is this is Steve Venn's economic pressure.

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Speaker 1: We're directly negotiating.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get some I'm gonna get the rumor hang on,

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Speaker 2: never know, it could be Eric Bowling, new Secretary of Commerce,

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. I want to give that up.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, brother, any great talking with you. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Sir Eric Bowling. True story, call him up. I said,

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Speaker 2: We got a cold open. Maybe I'll actually asked Josh

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Speaker 5: The US Appeals Court has reinstated Donald Trump's tariffs.

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Speaker 8: There's so much uncertainty in how the terriffs will be

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Speaker 4: Worry.

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Speaker 6: Use your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 2: Mas Thursday, twenty nine May year for Lower twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, sir?

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Speaker 1: So Hammer, are we in?

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Speaker 2: We talked about this coming constitutional crisis. We're in it

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Speaker 6: Yes, Steeve, we are kneed deep in a constitutional crisis,

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Speaker 6: And there's ultimately only one way this is going to end.

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Speaker 6: This is this is kind of the craziest point to me, Steve,

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Speaker 1: Okay, but there's zero would you not agree with me?

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Speaker 6: back in the day, Steve, back during the Reagan era,

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Speaker 6: University Chicago Law School was was a firmly right of

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Speaker 6: center law school, and that continued really into the nineteen nineties,

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Speaker 6: arguably even into the early two thousands. Unfortunately, Maelma Mater

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Speaker 6: has taken a left for a term, but it's probably

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Speaker 6: still better than most of its other peer institutions overall, but.

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Speaker 1: It has a frame of reference. It has shifted left.

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Speaker 2: Isn't correct me if I'm wrong, but President Trump and

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Speaker 2: part of its anti semitism, but it's deeper into that.

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Speaker 2: It gets to your book, it's anti the Judeo Christian West.

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Speaker 2: It's anti Western civilization. His confrontation with Harvard and the

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Speaker 2: confrontation with the big law firms and the confrontation on

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Speaker 2: judicial supremacy.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that one thing right?

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Speaker 2: It's connected Harvard and these places are the breeding ground

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Speaker 2: of it. The law firms is where it gets exacerbated

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Speaker 2: and they get promoted, and then they get into these

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Speaker 2: neo Marxist.

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Speaker 1: Get into the judiciary, and this is why we have

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Speaker 1: the problem.

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Speaker 2: And so the assault on those or I should say

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Speaker 2: the confrontation of those is actually a fundamental fight about

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Speaker 2: the direction of this country and who actually controls this country.

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Speaker 6: Sir, Yeah, So Harvard is the tip of the spear

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Speaker 6: literally actually, because I mean, let's think about the affirmative

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Speaker 6: action litigation that reached the Supreme Court just two years

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Speaker 6: ago in twenty twenty three, that case with Students for

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Speaker 6: Fair Emissions versus Harvard College. I mean, Harvard was Harvard

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Speaker 6: lost that case, Steve that you know, they have not

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Speaker 6: exactly you know, responded in kind. But when President Trump

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Speaker 6: signed probably his single most dynamic and paradigm shifting executive

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Speaker 6: order of his entire presidency so far, and he signed

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Speaker 6: a lot, to be clear, but in my opinion, it

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Speaker 6: was that DEI executive order on January twentieth, that, among

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Speaker 6: other things, interpreted the affirmative action case, the Student for

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Speaker 6: Fair Emissions case of twenty twenty three. It interpreted that

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Speaker 6: as banning DEI in general and any thumb on the

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Speaker 6: scale that would discriminate against white people, Asian people, Christians, Jews, Mormons,

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Speaker 6: essentially against anyone in this neo Marxist dichotomy, as you say,

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Speaker 6: between oppressors and depressed and the tie into my book

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Speaker 6: Israel and Civilization. Yes, this is part of the broader

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Speaker 6: assault on the West for numerous reasons. But I argue

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Speaker 6: in the book Steve that the singular underlying ethical underpinning

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Speaker 6: of all that we call Western civilization, of the entire

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Speaker 6: Biblical worldview, the entire Biblical inheritance. I had to really

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Speaker 6: pinpoint one verse, one verse from the entire Bible that

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Speaker 6: really undergirds all this. In my humble opinion, it will

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Speaker 6: be Genesis one twenty seven. You know, so in Latin

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Speaker 6: they'll be in mago day. In Hebrew we would say,

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Speaker 6: but sella melchem. This is the imperative that God made

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Speaker 6: man in his own image, male and female. He created them.

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Speaker 6: This is the undergirl for all of Western civilization. You know,

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Speaker 6: when John Locke wrote in his Second Treatise in seventeenth

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Speaker 6: century England about about natural rights to life, liberty, and property.

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Speaker 6: When Jefferson kind of borrowed the Lockean language writing the

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Speaker 6: Declaration in seventeen seventy six, there they weren't writing these

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Speaker 6: things in a vacuum. They were talking about the inalienable

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Speaker 6: of equal dignity and human worth of human beings. There

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Speaker 6: because they were writing in a certain contextual Milu there

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Speaker 6: and that is Genesis one twenty seven. That is the

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Speaker 6: Bible that the Jeo Christian tradition more broadly speaking, there.

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Speaker 6: When you abandon that, when you abandon Genesis, when you

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Speaker 6: abandon the Bible more broadly speaking, you're going in to

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Speaker 6: really dangerous territory. And among the things that you're going

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Speaker 6: to go to is affirmative action dei. All the various

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Speaker 6: things that reject imago day, that reject Genesis one twenty

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Speaker 6: seven are going to put in an overt thumb on

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Speaker 6: the scale in favor of bolstering certain ethnicities, nationalities, religions,

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Speaker 6: and then punishing certain ethnicities, nationalities, religions. That is, ultimately, Steve,

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Speaker 6: how the West goes to die. That's at least what

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Speaker 6: I argue in my book.

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Speaker 1: And talk to me. We got a minute orure. I

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Speaker 1: want to hold you through the break because I want

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Speaker 1: to get into this this Persian situation. How does that

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Speaker 1: talk to me? How does that play out? Now?

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Speaker 2: This about the defense of Western civilization, how's it playing

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Speaker 2: out in what's happening Harvard?

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Speaker 1: The big law firms and this judicial insurrection.

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Speaker 6: Well, the big law firms have increasingly become as a

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Speaker 6: total cancer on the body politic. I mean, these people

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Speaker 6: have been at war with anything remotely resembling Americanism or

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Speaker 6: Westernism for decades. I mean I remember Generin Block, which

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Speaker 6: is one of the many big law firms that Donald

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Speaker 6: Trump has appropriately gone after. I remember Generin Block back

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Speaker 6: during the Bush administration. This is back when I was

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Speaker 6: in high school. I mean, they became infamous nationwide for

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Speaker 6: defending al Qaeda terrors at GITMO and doing on a

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Speaker 6: pro bono basis. I mean, you know this is subversive behavior.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is domestic fifth column behavior there. These

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Speaker 6: think fundamentally that is what is happening there. And Donald Trump,

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Speaker 6: as in many other instries, I think, is fundamentally seeking

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Speaker 2: Stephen K. Josh, First of all, come up here in

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Speaker 2: deep State? Well, I know you're working. Article three is

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Speaker 2: important in your columns and all that, But but why

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Speaker 2: are you not in the White House?

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Speaker 1: Sir?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 6: You know I've never asked that, point blank, Steve, to

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Speaker 6: be honest with you, I mean, I live in Florida.

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Speaker 6: I don't even I don't even live in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 6: You know, Look, I'm always I'm always always happy to

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Speaker 6: take a phone call someone wants to, you know, inquire,

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Speaker 6: you know, without revealing too many details. I did have

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Speaker 6: some informal conversations during the transition period there. But you know,

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Speaker 6: Stephen A. Personal level. We just had our first baby,

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Speaker 6: our first daughter, in December. My my in laws live here,

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Speaker 6: so living in Florida is kind of best for not

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Speaker 6: just professional ball. So it's just very personal reasons right now.

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Speaker 6: So I don't necessarily see it happening, but I'm always

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Speaker 6: happy to answer the PHONEO. Someone wants to call.

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Speaker 2: Written this incredible book about Israel and the in the

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Speaker 2: in the civilization Israel in the West. A guy I know,

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Speaker 2: you know well, a guy I admire, one of the

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Speaker 2: smartest guys you know about the Constitution, the single smartest

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Speaker 2: guy named Mark Levin. There's a there's a big you know,

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Speaker 2: I guess disagreement, you can say. Christy Nome goes over

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Speaker 2: to deliver the message to Nannya, who once again President

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Speaker 2: Trump's got wild called.

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Speaker 1: They got a plan.

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Speaker 2: They're going to go down and negotiate. It's either verification

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Speaker 2: or it's a dismantling. We don't know the details of

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Speaker 2: it yet, but there's no support whatsoever of American involvement,

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Speaker 2: but not even support of Israel doing it on its own.

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Speaker 1: This is getting to be a bigger and bigger firestorm.

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Speaker 2: The other day we had Rabbi Well Licky given one

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Speaker 2: side a couple of days ago, then we had Kurt

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Speaker 2: Mills over the American Conservative given the other side. I

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Speaker 2: mean it is is Nania who is just the inability

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Speaker 2: to read the room. Because you know, President Trump as

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Speaker 2: well as anybody in this issue, we haven't had a

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Speaker 2: more pro Israel president ever than President Trump. He's got

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Speaker 2: Huckaby over there as his ambassador, but he's got a

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Speaker 2: very set way he's looking to do this, particularly in

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Speaker 2: the overall arc from from you know, Kursk to Kiev

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Speaker 2: to the whole arc of instability. The last thing he

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Speaker 2: wants is more gunfire, bombing or kinetic activity.

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Speaker 6: Your thoughts, sir, Well, there's a lot of unpack here,

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Speaker 6: of course. So I watched your entire exchange teave with

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Speaker 6: with Rabbi Wilicki. Rabbi will Looki's also a friend of mine.

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Speaker 6: So I watched the entire exchange. I thought it was great.

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Speaker 6: I thought you guys both made very good points. You

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Speaker 6: mentioned Mark Levin. Mark, Mark's a friend as well, young

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Speaker 6: friends of both of you guys.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 6: Look, this is a tough issue. There's a tough issue

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Speaker 6: because partially because it's been around for a long time.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, we've been hearing about Iron's nuclear

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Speaker 6: program for probably twenty five thirty years now, I mean

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Speaker 6: arguably even further than that. And there have been some

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Speaker 6: people who have been calling for direct military action, you know,

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Speaker 6: people like John Bolton in that category for you know,

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Speaker 6: probably close to fifteen years or so. So, you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean, who am I to say that? Like now,

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Speaker 6: is like really the time? I mean, I simply don't

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Speaker 6: get the president's daily briefing. I don't get the intelligence

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Speaker 6: that the US Israel, any other countries does. I have

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Speaker 6: no idea, frankly, just how close Iran is to actually

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Speaker 6: getting enough in Rich Union to be able to put

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Speaker 6: it on a warhead. So that's not really my position,

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Speaker 6: frankly to be able to be able to judge.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 6: Here are a few things I will say. One seed

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Speaker 6: that I will say is I have never, once ever,

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Speaker 6: in my entire adult life, called for a direct US

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Speaker 6: military action on Iran.

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Speaker 9: Never.

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Speaker 6: I have never said that. It's not my book, it's

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Speaker 6: not my stance. I've never once said it. My stance

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Speaker 6: was actually essentially what Donald Trump did the first time around.

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Speaker 6: I thought that the so called maximum pressure campaign was

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Speaker 6: actually working quite well. On the Molas, bringing them to

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Speaker 6: essentially close to the to the brink of bankruptcy. You

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Speaker 6: definitely could begin by the upping sanctions on their oil

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Speaker 6: and natural gas exports. I heard you and Eric Bowling

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Speaker 6: talking about the little at the beginning of the show.

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Speaker 6: When it comes to the Chinese Communist Party, that's the

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Speaker 6: number one importer of Irani and oil.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 6: When it comes to the ongoing diplomacy between the Steve

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Speaker 6: witcoff led American team and the Iran look like literally

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Speaker 6: any other American, any other America first Maga patriot, I

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Speaker 6: strongly preferred diplomacy to anything else. But you know, again

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Speaker 6: to go back to what Eric was saying, and I

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Speaker 6: think that you would agree with this, Steve. You know

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Speaker 6: you're dealing here with the most deceitful people on the

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Speaker 6: face of the earth. I mean, the Moles have been

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Speaker 6: lying to the United States, to everyone, like literally everyone,

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Speaker 6: for twenty five thirty years. They go to extraordinary lengths

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Speaker 6: to hide the progress of their nuclear program. And let's

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Speaker 6: recall that while the while iron is an existential threat

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Speaker 6: to Israel, it's not quite an existential threat to America.

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Speaker 6: It's definitely a threat to America. This regime has had

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Speaker 6: American blood on tans going back at least as far

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Speaker 6: as the event that formed the region the regime, the

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Speaker 6: Jimmy Carter era hostage crisis. They chant get to America

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Speaker 6: and their potempkin the legislature every single day. So you

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Speaker 6: don't want these guys to get a new now. If

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Speaker 6: it can be done via diplomacy, I'm all in for that.

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Speaker 6: I am skeptical simply because of who we are dealing with.

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Speaker 6: I'm not skeptical of President Trump's intentions at all. I

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Speaker 6: am simply skeptical of the nature of the counter party.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, let's see what happens. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's still ongoing right now. And you know my stand

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Speaker 6: at this exact time is, you know, let Donald Trump chew.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, let him burn. Let's see what happens.

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Speaker 2: But you bring up something and I don't hear that

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Speaker 2: at the forefront day. This is why I keep banging

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Speaker 2: the table. Go back to the maximum pressure campaign. This

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Speaker 2: is what President Trump in a team and I was

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Speaker 2: part of that came up in the first round because

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Speaker 2: as a young naval officer, I was there at the

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Speaker 2: beginning in the work up to the hostage crisis right

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Speaker 2: when our when our battle you know, our destroyer squadron

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Speaker 2: got called over there, when the when the hostages were

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Speaker 2: taken and it was all new territory.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the United States had no assets.

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Speaker 2: This is why giving up Diego Garcia like the British did,

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Speaker 2: is such a such a body blow. But the maximum

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Speaker 2: pressure campaign was bringing the Mulas to its knees and

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Speaker 2: causing amazing dissension inside of Persia, where the Persian people said,

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Speaker 2: We've had enough of this.

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Speaker 1: Why are we not? Do you agree?

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Speaker 2: Right now we're nowhere close to a max some pressure

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Speaker 2: campaign on economic and diplomatic pressure, Sir, I do.

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Speaker 6: Agree with that, and I would like to see that

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Speaker 6: dramatically escalating that now. Biden took a lot of sanctions

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Speaker 6: off of Iran. As we know, he funded the Malas.

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Speaker 6: There was that absurd exchange of five American hostages for

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Speaker 6: six billion dollars literally one point two billion dollars of hostage.

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Speaker 6: That was in September twenty twenty three, just a few

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Speaker 6: weeks prior to the October seventh Pagram in Israel. So

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden undid a lot of the Donald Trump first

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Speaker 6: term era macnet pressure campaign. Trump has has put some

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Speaker 6: new sanctions onto Iranian weapons manufacturers, arms dealers, things like

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Speaker 6: that there, but there is a lot left to do.

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Speaker 6: There was a lot of meat left on that bone,

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Speaker 6: so to speak. The easiest way to make this regime

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Speaker 6: hurt is energy. This is this is essentially a petroleum

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Speaker 6: led country. They don't really have a whole lot of

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Speaker 6: advanced industries, advanced technologies, really anything there is. You know,

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Speaker 6: this is not even the UAE or Bahrain, I mean

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Speaker 6: another country in that part of the world that is

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Speaker 6: still primarily oil natural gas during there, but also has

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Speaker 6: banking financial services there. No, Iran is really, to this

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Speaker 6: day a country whose economy is very, very largely dependent

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Speaker 6: on oil and natural gas there. And it seems to

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Speaker 6: me like kind of a very low hanging fruit proposition.

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Speaker 6: You can kind of get a two for the price

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Speaker 6: of one if you just sanction the utter crap out

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Speaker 6: of their oil and natural gas exports there. Again, China's

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Speaker 6: the number one importer there. I would very much like

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Speaker 6: to see that happen right now. Here's what I will say.

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Speaker 6: I don't know exactly how you how you do that

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Speaker 6: simultaneously with the ongoing negotiations there at least at least

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Speaker 6: it depends how you are projecting yourself in the negotiations, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, so those two things don't necessarily go together

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Speaker 6: so easily there. It's probably achievable. But I share your points, Steeve.

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Speaker 6: I mean to me, this is really not kind of

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Speaker 6: an A or B proposition there. It's not like we

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Speaker 6: do nothing or we do like a Barack Obama JCPUA

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Speaker 6: give them a nuke, or on the other hand, you know,

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Speaker 6: you do regime change. I mean, it's not an A

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Speaker 6: or B proposition there. There is a very very very

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Speaker 6: large sweet spot somewhere in the middle. It seemed to

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Speaker 6: me like the first Trump term era maccin pressure campaign

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Speaker 6: really kind of hit that sweet spot.

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Speaker 1: Josh, Where do people get your writings? Where can they

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Speaker 1: get the book?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 6: The book is Israel and Civilization, The Fate of the

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Speaker 6: Jewish Nation and the Destiny of the West. It's available

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Speaker 6: at Amazon, Barnes, Noble, wherever you get your books. I'm

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Speaker 6: on ex Josh Underscore Hammer Instagram is Josh B. Hammer

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Speaker 6: and then my show, The Josh Hammer Show. It was

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Speaker 6: available everywhere. Podcasts are available.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 6: Today anytimes, Steve, thank you.

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Speaker 2: The convergence of these crises is going to be because

756
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Speaker 2: remember it's ten years ago on June fifteenth, the President

757
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Speaker 2: Trump came down the Golden Escalator. People remember at Seapack

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Speaker 2: that took place just one hundred days before. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about the Seapack. In twenty fifteen, Donald Trump, I think

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Speaker 2: came in seventh at just over three percent.

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Speaker 1: I think he had three and andred percent. And this

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Speaker 1: is how he had been. It was right before Super Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: That's in twenty fifteen, right, not Super Tuesday, supertoos later,

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Speaker 1: but it was he was already out.

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Speaker 2: He had been in Iowa, he had been in New

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Speaker 2: Hampshire that had that been in South Carolina, had that

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Speaker 2: huge event in they brought all the candis together at

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Speaker 2: the Sherman Theater in Iowa. President Trump was out about

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Speaker 2: finished I think seventh to three and a half percent.

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Speaker 1: He finished.

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Speaker 2: On the when he's at the top of the escalator,

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Speaker 2: I think he's in seventh place on general polling. After

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Speaker 2: he goes to the escalator and actually addresses the American people,

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Speaker 2: and people realize MAGA and somebody the think at Breitbart,

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Speaker 2: we had five or six people there.

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Speaker 1: The covered wall to wall. That night he went to

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Speaker 1: number one and.

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Speaker 2: Accept for doctor Ben Carson, coming close in kind of

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Speaker 2: a tie and a poll that took place a couple

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Speaker 2: months later.

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Speaker 1: President Trump was always in first place.

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Speaker 2: Why he addressed the American people in an nomenclature and

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Speaker 2: with ideas that they talked amongst themselves or thought, but

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Speaker 2: nobody had the political courage ever to talk about And

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Speaker 2: guess what, it's the program that he is fighting for

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Speaker 2: every single day.

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Speaker 1: That was ten years ago, a decade.

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Speaker 2: We've gone through a decade together and those of you

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Speaker 2: that were with us before from fourteen on, it's been

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Speaker 2: over decade. But in this decade of everything that's gone

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Speaker 2: on with President Trump, everything that's gone on with the

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Speaker 2: MAGA movement, and think about it for a second. That

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Speaker 2: come from behind victory first off, the brutal and tough

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Speaker 2: primary fight in twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen, that come

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Speaker 2: from behind victory against Hillary Clinton, the massive revolt of

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Speaker 2: the deep state, and a nullification project in his first

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Speaker 2: term in the fight he had every day, you know,

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Speaker 2: every day there the pandemic unleashed by the Chinese Communist

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Speaker 2: Party to stop the economic flourishing. The President trum I

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Speaker 2: had against all odds, the stolen election of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: In fact, as I said today, I was talking to

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Speaker 2: people at the New York Post, the heroic nature of

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Speaker 2: the New York Post printing the laptop from Hell and

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Speaker 2: everything that involved in Joe Biden on national TV at

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Speaker 2: a debate lying ballface lie, in the crushing of the

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Speaker 2: New York Post by Facebook, by Twitter at the time,

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Speaker 2: by all the social media accounts, then the stealing of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty election, the fight thereafter President Trump, then

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Speaker 2: leaving to go to mar Lago. You remember essentially the

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Speaker 2: political nuclear winter of that early part of twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: when Fox News would never even put him up and

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't cover him live because they feared he would

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Speaker 2: talk about the stolen election, the long journey back of

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Speaker 2: twenty to the twenty four primary in his victory then

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Speaker 2: and then this hand to hand combat in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four to win a sweeping victory across the board. This

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Speaker 2: is all historic over a decade, and you have been

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Speaker 2: an activist, some of you just recently adjoining, are recently

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Speaker 2: coming to the show.

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 2: Many of you hear from the beginning, you're like veterans

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Speaker 2: of the American Revolution. You understand this is a revolution.

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Speaker 2: All that everything that happened in that decade ten years

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Speaker 2: of your life is just a preamble for what's about

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Speaker 2: to happen. Because now we're in it, folks, and you

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Speaker 2: see the conversions of the kinetic part of the Third

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Speaker 2: World War and what he's trying to do on peace.

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Speaker 2: You see what's happening on try to stop the invasion,

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Speaker 2: which he has stopped. Didn't take a decade, didn't take

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Speaker 2: Langford's bill. It took a man that had an idea

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Speaker 2: and a plan and executed in sixty days. To stop

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Speaker 2: that now is to deport the invader. The fight he's

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Speaker 2: getting by the globalist elite to still run this country.

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Speaker 2: Don't think we run it. We have a foothold, and

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Speaker 2: we have a man, a leader that is making decisions

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Speaker 2: that are herculean. This is why I say, with all

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Speaker 2: his imperfections, he's at the level of General Washington, he's

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Speaker 2: at the level of Lincoln.

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Speaker 1: And you have Trump. Then you got a next lot down.

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Speaker 2: You got Reagan, you got FDR, you got Teddy Roosevelt

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Speaker 2: and others Jackson.

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Speaker 1: But that top three.

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Speaker 2: You have the birth of the nation, you have the

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Speaker 2: rebirth of the nation, and you have the rejuvenation and

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Speaker 2: the salvation of the nation. And now we're in it

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Speaker 2: the next couple of hundred days as all of this converges,

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Speaker 2: an economic and financial crisis, a constitutional crisis, and a

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Speaker 2: kinetic third World war that's now upon us and upon

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Speaker 2: the shoulders and one man to stop. The history is

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Speaker 2: going to be made in the next couple of hundred days,

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Speaker 2: will be talked about for the next couple of hundred years.

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Speaker 1: Short break. God, we rejoice, most do.

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Speaker 6: And he's doing it so early.

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Speaker 5: Does make you ask the question, is he sending a

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Speaker 5: message to others, Hey, listen, if you want something, just

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Speaker 5: donate to a superpack, or be really vocal about me,

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Speaker 5: Be really vocal about all the good that I'm doing.

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Speaker 5: Give me a reason to help you by helping me.

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Speaker 6: I think that's absolutely right.

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Speaker 10: And it's so funny because you don't really hear him

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Speaker 10: talking about draining the swamp too much anymore, because he

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Speaker 10: has fully embraced the swamp down in Washington. It's also

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Speaker 10: quite funny that he tries to present himself as somebody

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Speaker 10: who's interested in serious criminal justice reform, when, as you

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Speaker 10: point out, it's mostly about flattering his buddies or trying

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Speaker 10: to get something in exchange, like the tariff policy was.

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Speaker 10: It's about consolidating his power and also having all of

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Speaker 10: the countries come to him to make a deal so

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Speaker 10: he can be to borrow from George W. Bush, the

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Speaker 10: decider in these instances. But the Trump administration is a

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Speaker 10: mass incarceration administration and that should not go unsaid when

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Speaker 10: he's trying to position himself as anything but that.

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Speaker 6: Pam Bondi is.

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Speaker 10: A former lobbyist for a private prison company, Tom Holman,

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Speaker 10: his borders are is also heavily involved in private prisons financially,

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Speaker 10: and so this is not an administration that actually wants

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Speaker 10: to take on criminal justice reform. They are warehousing immigrants

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Speaker 10: as we speak, without due process, as you see.

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Speaker 2: Hang on, hang on, hang on. This is the bald

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Speaker 2: face lies they tell, and this is why they're losing.

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Speaker 2: She's a bald face liar. Nobody has done more on

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Speaker 2: prison reform and work with prisoners is more anti mass

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Speaker 2: incarceration the Democratic Party. And I say that somebody's in prison,

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Speaker 2: and you talk to the black and Hispanic prisoners and

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Speaker 2: there they'll tell you on August. On September twenty sixth,

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Speaker 2: and Grace, we should put this up because you were

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Speaker 2: involved in this. In prison, I put the only statement

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Speaker 2: I think I ever put it in prison about the

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Speaker 2: coming victory over Kamala Harrison.

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Speaker 1: You know where I got that from the prisoners.

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Speaker 2: Because the Kamala Harrison, the Democratic Party and that young

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Speaker 2: lady right there, they represent mass incarcerations. What he's doing

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Speaker 2: with illegal aliens is not mass incarceration. That's deportation of

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Speaker 2: people that have no depressers rights and are going to

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Speaker 2: get the hell out of this country. President Trump the

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Speaker 2: First Step Act asked the prisoners, ma'am, have you interviewed

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Speaker 2: the prisoners? His First Step Act is the boldest move

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Speaker 2: ever against mass incarceration. Remember, the Democratic Party and particularly

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Speaker 2: the progressive part of the Democratic Party have been for

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Speaker 2: mass incarcerations. And you know who knows that, the families

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Speaker 2: of prisoners. What President Trump is for is mass deportation

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Speaker 2: of illegal aliens, and they're going to get mass deported.

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Speaker 2: For you to sit there and Katie, now for you

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Speaker 2: to correct that baldface lie, and that was a bald

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Speaker 2: face lie. And Katie Turr you know better. This is

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Speaker 2: how corrupt MSNBC is. This is why they're kind of

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Speaker 2: no offense becoming more and more irrelevant. This is why

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Speaker 2: African American men are voting for President Trump in the

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Speaker 2: MAGA movement in record numbers. This is why the Hispanic

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Speaker 2: community is coming to President Trump in the MAGA movement

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Speaker 2: in record numbers. This is why Star County, Texas, where

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Speaker 2: we lost by sixty points to Hillary Clinton twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: President Trump won by sixteen points in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: a county that's hard scrabbled with working class Hispanics right

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Speaker 2: there on the border. That's ninety seven percent Hispanic, ninety

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Speaker 2: seven percent Hispanic. No, President Trump is one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: against mass incarcerations. What he is for is the first

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Speaker 2: there and tell me he's for that. That is a

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Speaker 2: talk to the inmates. Mike Lindell joins us. Mike Lindell.

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Speaker 2: You're going up against this system in what they call

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Speaker 2: the trial of the century. Is it really the trial

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Speaker 2: of the century, Mike Lindell, do you got a shot

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Speaker 2: a winning? Are you going to get smoked in court

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Speaker 2: in Colorado?

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Speaker 1: Sir? We are gonna win, Steve. And it's all come

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Speaker 1: down to this.

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Speaker 4: We're the only ones that have went all the way

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Speaker 1: It's one of the most important cases in history.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna look back on it even a year or

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Speaker 1: These midterms are the most important mid terms in history.

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Speaker 4: You see it all the attacks right now, then the

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Speaker 7: And with that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike, good on you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, next hour, we're gonna get down to it even deeper.

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Speaker 2: Brian Costello, Joe Allen come back join me about the

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