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Speaker 1: The John Anick and Kenny Florian podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: Let's heart.

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Speaker 2: Brakers out.

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Speaker 1: There are a couple of absolutely self involved. You are

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Speaker 1: your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I mean, whose idea was this? Cayl sonnons in the

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Speaker 3: room next door? Sorry, Chail, two forty four am Eastern.

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Speaker 3: It is twelve forty four here in Salt Late City, Utah.

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Speaker 3: Great to have everybody with us for our live pay

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Speaker 3: per view recap of UFC three oh seven. It is

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Speaker 3: episode five seventeen of the Anaki Florian podcast Ken Flow Burning,

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Speaker 3: and it all ends No me tired up. I was

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Speaker 3: in a much better mood fifteen minutes ago, if you

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Speaker 3: really want to know, when I returned to my dressing

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Speaker 3: room and found that all my shit was stolen, including

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Speaker 3: gone here we are none of that stuff is irreplaceable,

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Speaker 3: but uh yeah, I mean I was high stepping about

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Speaker 3: twenty minutes ago, so excited to talk to you about

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Speaker 3: poetson and then all my shit got stolen in Salt

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Speaker 3: Lake City. But do how are you doing coming up

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Speaker 3: on three am there in Charlotte, North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well, man, I'm doing well. It's great to

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Speaker 2: see you. The Morob Dwallashville of MMA commentary over here,

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Speaker 2: John Annick, absolute beast. He's tireless, dude. What a night, man,

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Speaker 2: amazing night. I could see why you still have a

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Speaker 2: little bit of energy left. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah to you.

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Speaker 4: That's okay.

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Speaker 2: We need to track them down and take care of them.

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Speaker 3: So did you take a nap today? Knowing that you

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Speaker 3: were going to be after this exercise? So what time

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Speaker 3: did you nap from?

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Speaker 2: I took a nap. Let's see it like from like

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Speaker 2: three thirty to about six.

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Speaker 3: All right, good, so you should be in pretty good shape.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to try to present to you folks

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Speaker 3: a power hour. We'll see how my WiFi holds up.

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Speaker 3: But we appreciate everybody joining us live. And I know

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Speaker 3: for a lot of people in Australia or other parts

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Speaker 3: of the world right who make tremendous sacrifices to ingest

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Speaker 3: this UFC content all the time. Hopefully this is happening

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Speaker 3: at a good hour and maybe this is something that

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Speaker 3: that we consider because it's Ken Flow knows. Dude, you

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Speaker 3: think I just hit the pillow and fall asleep after

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Speaker 3: these things, right, you know? But I am getting increasingly

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Speaker 3: more starstruck and not less when I'm around Poeton alex

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Speaker 3: Po data bro, Like, you're a Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt,

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Speaker 3: but you're also a striker. You're basically a lifelong martial artist.

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Speaker 3: So what is it about this guy as he defends

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Speaker 3: his belt now for the third time at one hundred

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Speaker 2: I don't get starstruck I'm around someone I don't really

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Speaker 2: see it. I'm like, Okay, no big deal. When I

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Speaker 3: Wow, there is so much to discuss here, and certainly

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Speaker 3: tonight as we recap the piss out of UFC three

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Speaker 3: zero seven headlines brought by Quervo, now's a good time

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Speaker 3: to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. And you can't

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Speaker 3: get a double here in Salt Lake City, Utah. But

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Speaker 3: it might have been some good forethought by me to

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Speaker 3: now after getting off a nine hour broadcast, eight hours

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Speaker 3: But ken Flow, Alex Padata is still the UFC's light

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Speaker 3: heavyweight champion. Had to face some adversity, had to dig deep, however,

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Speaker 3: had Alex Padata up three to nil. Right, he was

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Speaker 2: You could sum it up with one word, and that

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Speaker 2: that little tidbit about Joe Rogan talking to Mark Goddard

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Speaker 2: about the sound of the strikes of Alex Beneda right.

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Speaker 2: But you know the powers there, that is clear. You

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Speaker 2: After round two, Khalil just was not the same guy physically,

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Speaker 3: And recently some of you probably heard the last style bender,

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Speaker 3: From afar and is he is a guy ubiquitously regarded

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Speaker 3: And this man, Alex Poeton Pareta, just continuing to create

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Speaker 3: We've talked about the anti grappling, the elite striking that

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Speaker 2: Dude, There's no question about it. It's almost a concern

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Speaker 2: This guy is working over time. He fully understands he

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Speaker 2: This is a true martial artist. But he's also a

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Speaker 3: There are so many different directions in which we know

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of method to the madness of Alex Padata, Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, and to your point earlier about you know,

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Speaker 3: It's amazing to me, as maybe a basketball player that

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Speaker 2: It is unfreaking believable because he is believable. His eyes

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean you're talking about taking time off.

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Speaker 2: should if you're gonna face someone like Padata. But I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's.

429
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Speaker 4: That guy trying to find some stats here.

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Speaker 2: He's a good striker.

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Speaker 3: Those were actually accurate. I'm trying to find career statistics

432
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Speaker 3: for Maga met Ancleli have take down accuracy thirty one percent.

433
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna dive too deep in here. I just

434
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Speaker 3: got off the air, But obviously if I had gone

435
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Speaker 3: through the full regular preparation for the Anaiconploring podcast. I

436
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Speaker 3: could have presented a few more numbers for you, but

437
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Speaker 3: the point remains in certain divisions that real pain in

438
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Speaker 3: the ass wrestler that's just gonna make for a suffocate

439
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Speaker 3: night at the office does not exist. So Alex Pedata, congratulations.

440
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 3: Man sounds tried to say it couldn't happen to a

441
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 3: better dude, But the man remade his life at a time,

442
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 3: made some critical decisions that key points in his life.

443
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 3: Seems a tremendous father to his two boys who seemed

444
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Speaker 3: to be developing a lot of martial arts chops in

445
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Speaker 3: their own rights. So just really happy for po Aton,

446
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: for plenty O Cruz, for Glover to Shaida, as you're

447
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 3: saying now, So Ken Flow actually used to just say

448
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Speaker 3: Alex Pereira because he would americanize it, but you are right,

449
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 3: it's like it almost needs to be one or all,

450
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Speaker 3: Like if it's Alex Paeda, it's got to be Glover

451
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Speaker 3: to Shaida, right and joys anyway to elect in the

452
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Speaker 3: entire team. And you know, as we New England, there's

453
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Speaker 3: like to say, the UFC Light Heavyweight Championship belt remains.

454
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Speaker 4: In New England.

455
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Speaker 3: So the women's Banhamweight Championship fight tonight, Ken Flowers, Pennington

456
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Speaker 3: and Juliana Penya go the twenty five minute distance.

457
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Speaker 4: I thought it was a close fight.

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Speaker 3: It seems as though there is a lot of fan

459
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Speaker 3: and commentator uproar as to the scoring, but Juliana Penya

460
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Speaker 3: becomes a two time UFC Women's Span Away champion spoils

461
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Speaker 3: the first defense for kel Pennington.

462
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Speaker 4: Seems like it came down to round one.

463
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Speaker 3: I shouldn't say seems like it, because it did as

464
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Speaker 3: far as the judges' scorecards were concerned. If memory serves,

465
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Speaker 3: Juliana Penya did land a lot of significant strikes in

466
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Speaker 3: that first round, But I thought Pennington won one, four

467
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Speaker 3: and five. Kenny, any thoughts on the co main event.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I picked Penya to win. I

469
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Speaker 2: think Penya is a very interesting character. Pennington is way

470
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Speaker 2: more quieter and all that stuff. However, you know, as

471
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Speaker 2: I was watching the fight and I went back and

472
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Speaker 2: watched it again, I actually think that Pennington had a

473
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Speaker 2: pretty good case forgetting to win as well. And you're right,

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Speaker 2: I think it did come down to round one. And

475
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Speaker 2: you know, if we're being consistent and how we're seeing

476
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: these fights. I think that Pennington landed the more significant bloat.

477
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Speaker 2: She was a little bit more effective in my book

478
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Speaker 2: when it came to the striking. Not to say Penya

479
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Speaker 2: was not, but Pennington was more effective. What should have

480
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Speaker 2: given her the win? You know, overall, super close fight,

481
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Speaker 2: don't necessarily have a problem with Penia winning, but yeah,

482
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Speaker 2: Pennington had a pretty strong argument there.

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Speaker 3: Man, bro I just got a text message, by the way,

484
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Speaker 3: shout out to the UFC. Man, looks like security has

485
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Speaker 3: the person who stole my Jordan's on camera.

486
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Speaker 4: They're going to his house.

487
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Speaker 3: Way, no way, Jordan's back, Let's go. I want to

488
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Speaker 3: shout out my colleague who's tracking this, but I'm gonna

489
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Speaker 3: protect him or her.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

491
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Speaker 3: So yeah, So it's really interesting because these women, and

492
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Speaker 3: I was happy to see them hug after the fact,

493
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Speaker 3: but they really had a lot of disdain for one another,

494
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Speaker 3: and I thought Raquel Pennington was going to sort of

495
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Speaker 3: channel that emotion in the right way. But I did

496
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Speaker 3: think she got lost there a little bit in rounds

497
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Speaker 3: two and three, and she got brought back by Tisha,

498
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Speaker 3: who was Octagon's side and her coaches. After that third round,

499
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Speaker 3: like go get in a fight, right, right, like go

500
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Speaker 3: do what we trained to do. And on the other side,

501
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Speaker 3: for Juliana Penya Kenny, I think there were factors. I

502
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Speaker 3: don't know if the altitude was a factor. I don't

503
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Speaker 3: know if ring russ from not competing since twenty twenty

504
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: two was a factor. But I think the knockdown could

505
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Speaker 3: have been a factor as well as to why she

506
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Speaker 3: finished the fight so unceremoniously. But I do think part

507
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Speaker 3: of it when you do lose the championship rounds and

508
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Speaker 3: then you get your hand raised and you look surprised

509
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Speaker 3: that you won, that's only going to sort of fuel

510
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Speaker 3: whatever the fans are intimated.

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Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed. And again, you know when you when you're

512
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Speaker 2: in a fight and you have one person that finished

513
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Speaker 2: really strong. Wasn't just the fifth round, It was the

514
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Speaker 2: fourth and fifth round, you know, it says a lot.

515
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Speaker 2: And again you know her name's Rocky for a reason.

516
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Speaker 2: And the way that she was able to come back

517
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Speaker 2: yet again, I was not surprised by it. Pennington knows

518
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Speaker 2: how to gather herself up and get right back to it.

519
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Speaker 2: They I was really impressed.

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Speaker 3: Man, I got to take this call, so keep talking

521
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Speaker 3: for a second. This is go.

522
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Speaker 2: For it man. Yeah, that's important. See John's trying to

523
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: get his Jordan's back. That's important. But yeah, you know,

524
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Speaker 2: I think that for for Pennington, she definitely had a

525
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: strong case. She landed some really heavy shots. She was

526
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Speaker 2: able to knock Penya down not once, at least twice,

527
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Speaker 2: so you know, she showed improvements. Typically, Pennington is more

528
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Speaker 2: of a grinder, you know, she's not necessarily known for

529
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Speaker 2: her striking power. And the fact that she was able

530
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Speaker 2: to land those heavy shots and drop Penya showed improvements.

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Speaker 2: Actually to start the fight, I thought that both ladies

532
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: showed improvement, Panya as well. I thought Penya's jab looked

533
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: way better. I think where she started to mess up

534
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Speaker 2: a little bit, I don't think she was respecting the

535
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Speaker 2: power of Pennington. In rounds four and five, she started

536
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 2: dropping her hands a little bit. Whether that was her

537
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Speaker 2: being tired as you were mentioning John or not, I'm

538
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: not sure. But either way, you know, Pennington was finding

539
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: a lot of success late in the fight, and she

540
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: definitely showed that she's improving as a power puncher for sure.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to Delta Center, Arena Security and the UFC

542
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: security team. They got my Jordan's in hand and they're

543
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: shipping them to Las Vegas. That's insane.

544
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: Hell yeah.

545
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 3: So Kayla Harrison, have you injected her name into this

546
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: conversation yet?

547
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: I have not?

548
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: I mean, is she not a breath of fucking fresh air?

549
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: I love right.

550
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: She's awesome, she really is, and hopefully the great City.

551
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: Of Boston, Massachusetts ripped off on her in some of

552
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: her formative years. But Kayla Harrison came in second UFC appearance.

553
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: Brian Petree on our show picked Kayla Harrison by decision

554
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: minus one ten. Good on him. Caitlyn Vida had a

555
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: hugely damaging moment in round two. I thought Kaitlyn hander

556
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: handled herself very well all week, was meeting Kayla's energy

557
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: at the press conference, coming out of her skin.

558
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: But Kayla Harrison's.

559
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: All the rage right, even though there was a lot

560
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: of back and forth and a lot of merit to

561
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Speaker 3: this title fight, Kenny, Kayla Harrison is going to be

562
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: the favorite to win the women's bantamweight championship against Juliana

563
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: Penya whenever that fight ends up going down. So what

564
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: are your thoughts on the bantamweight division now moving forward

565
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: with Juliana Penya as champion and presumably Kayla Harrison, your

566
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: former PFL colleague, being next.

567
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I listen. I think it's gonna give I think

568
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: it's gonna get very interesting. And I think in a

569
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: lot of ways you could argue that Kaitlyn Vieira is

570
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: a more difficult matchup stylistically for Kayla Harrison than say

571
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: Penya is, just because Penya's strengths lie where Kayla Harrison's

572
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: strengths lie and Harrison is a world class grappler. Uh,

573
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: Penya is not too shabby yourself, but not quite at

574
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Speaker 2: the level of Harrison. Now, where Harrison had a little

575
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: bit of tru was on the feet. You know, I

576
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: think her kicks looked a little bit awkward. From being honest,

577
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: she seemed a little bit tired or maybe she was

578
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: kind of reserving energy in round two a little bit.

579
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: But Kentlyn certainly deserves some credit for fighting defensively, you know,

580
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: more defensively. Dean Thomas talked about that. So but you know,

581
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Speaker 2: it's not a knock on Vienna. I think it was

582
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Speaker 2: smart for her to try to avoid that grappling a

583
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: little bit. But in round three, Harrison was able to

584
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Speaker 2: get back into that clinch, take her down and get

585
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: back to work on the ground. So you know the

586
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: level is different in the UFC. Okay, and Kaitlyn is

587
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: no slout, She's tough, she's good everywhere. But at the

588
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: same time, we also saw how good Harrison is once

589
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: she takes the fight to the ground. So I can't wait, man.

590
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: I think Harrison as a champ or potential champ in

591
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Speaker 2: the UFC. I think we'll bring a lot of good

592
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Speaker 2: things for the women's division.

593
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Speaker 4: Both of these women so well coached.

594
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Speaker 3: Andre Peternaris and Kaitlyn via to have an amazing kinship

595
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: and connect and then just that American Top Team powerhouse

596
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: Anderson Franco and Mike Brown and Steve Maco and Kaylin

597
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: Harrison just so coachable, and she's the opposite of gast

598
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: in every moment seemingly right. I haven't seen her tired

599
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: at all. I'm really curious to see a fight against

600
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: Juliana Penya. Anthony Smith suggests on the postfight show that

601
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: even though maybe he thought were Cal Pennington won the

602
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: title fight, that he believes at Juliana Penny Kayla Harrison

603
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,239
Speaker 3: fight is more appealing slash competitive. I'm not sure if

604
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: you agree on that.

605
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's competitive, but it's appealing because both

606
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: those ladies they have a lot of character. Man, they

607
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: have a lot of charisma. I would love to just

608
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: hear those two go back and forth on the mic.

609
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: They had some great moments at the press conference, and

610
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: I think they can really build a very interesting fight

611
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: because also people in the UFC are still trying to

612
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: figure out who Kayla Harrison is, right, So I think

613
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: it's very interesting and I think that's a fight we

614
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Speaker 2: will see in early twenty twenty five.

615
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Speaker 3: They could have pushed Kayla Harrison right into a tight

616
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: fight after she submitted Holly Holm. The way she did it,

617
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: you have some three hundred. They made her pass this test, right,

618
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: so you would submit to me that this fight between

619
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: Kaitlyn Vieda and Kayla Harrison was competitive. Kaitlyn Vieda one

620
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: around on I think one judge of scorecard, if not two,

621
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Speaker 3: maybe it was just one. So but you don't necessarily

622
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: think Kayla Harrison Juliana Pena is as competitive. But I'm

623
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Speaker 3: not trying to put you on the spot, right, But no, no, no,

624
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: I feel like you maybe are saying in some part,

625
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: I don't know how you'd handicap Kaitlyn Vieda versus Juliana Penya,

626
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: but it sounds like, I know, styles make fights, but

627
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: maybe you're saying that a Viada Harrison rematch might be

628
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: more competitive than a Juliana Penya Kayla Harrison fighter, are

629
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: you not?

630
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, exactly. I think that you know, Kaitlyn is

631
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: a big, strong, one hundred and thirty five pounds female.

632
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: Penya is not like built up like that. And I

633
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: also don't think her striking is as developed as Kaitlyn Vieira.

634
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: So I think Vera had enough anti grappling skills and

635
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: she was dangerous enough on the feet, as was evidenced

636
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: by that beautiful elbo that she threw that she she

637
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: posed some problems for Harrison. I don't know if Pena

638
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: possesses those same types of skills, And again, it doesn't matter.

639
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: Penya is a very tough fighter, There's no question about

640
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: She's a champ for a reason, you know, her second

641
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: time doing so. However, I think just the way that

642
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: they match up, I think it's a little bit more

643
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: favorable to Harrison than the Vieera fight was.

644
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see where Raquel Pennington goes from here. I

645
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: think the tough thing for Raquel is that a lot

646
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: of those matchups are tough, and she's been in a

647
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: lot of close fights, even the split decision against Kaitlyn Vita, right,

648
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: and maybe that would be a fight that would come

649
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: around again Macy Schasson in a rematch. There's a lot

650
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: of talent at thirty five right now. I mean the

651
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: name I brought up, of course, Big Norm Norman Dumont

652
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: factors prominently in anything.

653
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: Dude, absolutely right.

654
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: But Julian Penna is the champ and she deserves her

655
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: flowers to be sure to come back and fight as

656
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: competitively as she did, and rounds two and three presents

657
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: in a lot of shining moments. I thought her boxing

658
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: looked improved, and we'll see what she has presumably for

659
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 3: Kayla Harrison.

660
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 4: Any thoughts on Amanda Nunez.

661
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: She did post something on X but I don't really

662
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: think that Amanda Nunez is going to come back imminently.

663
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: But I think for Nunez, the Penna fight is not

664
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: of any appeal.

665
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it is. You know, it's possible

666
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: that she comes back for miss Harrison, who knows, you know,

667
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: you former teammates. I think that would be a big

668
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: money fight, you know, especially after let's say Harrison wins

669
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 2: the belt, she defends once or twice, then maybe, but

670
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: who knows, you know, Nunez deserves to to kind of

671
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: ride off into the sunset. I think she's living a

672
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: good life right now. I don't know how active she

673
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: is as a fighter, or how how much she's training,

674
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: but you know, I would love to see her just

675
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: retire and go off. She certainly deserves it. What an

676
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: amazing career. But who knows, maybe the Harrison it brings

677
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: a lot more money for her.

678
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 4: Well that's the rub, right.

679
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: You don't need to know how hard a man is

680
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: training or not training, right, You need to know her

681
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: net worth, And if her net worth is less than

682
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: X million dollars, then the Kayla Harrison fight would be

683
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: a monumental payday. But it's interesting because Amanda Nunez's legacy

684
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: is so entrenched that that fight comes with so much

685
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 3: inherent risk. Kayla Harrison versus Amanda Nunez. But uh yeah,

686
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens with Juliana Penion. Kayla Harrison, you

687
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 3: just hope that they can keep the division spinning, because

688
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: I'm excited about the women's bandon weight division right now.

689
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: But Raquel Pennington won the belt in January and took

690
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: almost a year for the first title defense to happen.

691
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: So hopefully Kayla Harrison gets her shot in short order.

692
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 3: All right, let us get to Jose Aldo and Mario

693
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: Bautista if we could featured out in the bandam weight

694
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: division goes to Mario Bautista by split decision. A lot

695
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: of people seem up in arms about a lot of

696
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: fucking things tonight. I thought it was a close fight.

697
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: I did the rightful winner one. I know there are

698
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: a lot of layers to this fight. What did you

699
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: make of these fifteen minutes between the number ten and

700
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 3: eleventh rank bandam weights in the world respective?

701
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: How dare you have an opinion on this? John? Yeah, no, listen,

702
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: I think that I think it's valid. You know, I

703
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: think you have a valid opinion. I disagree with it.

704
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: I thought that Aldo won, but again we're talking about

705
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's a close fight. It's a close fight,

706
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: there's no question about it. I thought that Aldo was

707
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 2: more effective as a striker in round three, I thought

708
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: Bautista one round one. I thought Aldo one round two

709
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: perhaps the most convincing of the rounds, and Bautista did

710
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: a great job of trying to get to the clinch

711
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: and disrupting the rhythm of Aldo. Right, So I thought,

712
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: I thought it was a good game plan, but I

713
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: thought that Aldo was a little bit more effective when

714
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 2: it came down to it. But again, not a whole

715
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: lot happened on the feet, you know what I mean.

716
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: So I get it. It was Bautista who was the

717
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: guy moving forward, you know, looking for the takedowns. He

718
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: wasn't doing much with it. And you know, we kind

719
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: of go back to that question. You know, what is

720
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: considered effective grappling. Is it the control of Bautista or

721
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: is it the anti takedown game of Josi Aldo. So

722
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: you know, I think when you look at where Aldo,

723
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: and we've talked about this on the last show, where

724
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: he's been susceptible, it's exactly what Bautista tried to do

725
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: to him. So I thought it was a well executed

726
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: game plan either way.

727
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 3: Even at times Andre Pedneris was saying in the corner,

728
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: I don't want you just sort of stalling up against

729
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: the fence, and I did think Aldo could have been

730
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: more urgent in those situations.

731
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: But you're right.

732
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: It comes back to the conversation about effective grappling and

733
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: effective aggression, even if you're going to go to that condition, right, Certainly,

734
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the visuals for Mario Bautista

735
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 3: were good perpetual offense, trying to do things, and yeah,

736
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: I just think not necessarily disrupting the rhythm of Aldo,

737
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: but presenting sort of just a bunch of shit in

738
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 3: your face all the time that clock kind of gets

739
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: away from you. But you're right, Kenny, like there wasn't.

740
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 3: It's a close fight, man.

741
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: You know, And to your point, man, you know, a

742
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: lot of it has to do with gamesmanship, right. It's like,

743
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: you know, if you're tired, but you don't act like

744
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 2: you're tired, then that looks more impressive. I'm not saying

745
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: that was the case of the way. I'm just giving

746
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: an example of what the judges may or may not

747
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: be looking for, what could influence their decision a certain way.

748
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: If I look lethargic or tired as I'm moving around

749
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: the cage, but I'm still outstriking you, that still may

750
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: not be a good look. So I think there were

751
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: times where Aldo could have been more active, where he

752
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: could have shown a little bit more I don't know,

753
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: pizazz or energy at times, and you know, maybe he's

754
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: going to be kicking himself after this, But it was

755
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: like the same situation with the Morob fight, you know,

756
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: Like so you know, with all of that experience and

757
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: as good as Aldo is, I think that for me,

758
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 2: when I see him fight, I'm always wanting to see more.

759
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: I'm seeing an Aldo that's a little bit slower than

760
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: he was before. He uses his reaction time somewhere now

761
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: Anderson Silva used to back in the day for defensive purposes,

762
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: and it's not as quick, so he's getting hit with

763
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: a little bit more shot. So anyways, although is still

764
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: a stud, I thought he won, it was super close.

765
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: Bautista's a stud as well, and I think that's gonna

766
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: be another one where although when he goes back and

767
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: watches that, whether he thought he won or lost, he's

768
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: going to be kind of kicking himself a little bit

769
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 2: hopefu yeah, or wishing that he did a little.

770
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: Bit more great analysis.

771
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 3: Honestly, I love the Anderson Silva defensive comparison. But you're right,

772
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: I do believe Jose Aldo maybe has lost a little

773
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: bit of that speed. Right.

774
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

775
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 3: When I try to suggest to Domina Cruz that he's

776
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: a sco slower than he used to be, he wants

777
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 3: to fucking kill me. But I'm watching wonder Boy Thompson

778
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: tonight at forty forty one years a dude, he is

779
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: still just as fast. He's like getting faster. I think,

780
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: even though he lost the fight, We'll get to that

781
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: in a little bit. So I'm happy for Mario Bautista.

782
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: I'm happy for the MMA lab. They do so many

783
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: things the right way. And you know how much I

784
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: love Jose Aldo. Of course I get starstruck around the guy.

785
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: I can barely even speak in front of him. But

786
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: I would have felt really disappointed if Mario Bautista's six

787
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: fight winning streak went by the boards tonight, because I

788
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: just I don't know, man. I just didn't think Jose

789
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 3: Aldo got it up done in the fight, even if

790
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: some of Bautista's work appeared to be stalling to some

791
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: people and it looked like maybe Connor McGregor Cody sent

792
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 3: it to me, tweeted that Bautista acknowledged the stalling even

793
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: in his post fight interview with Joe Rogan. My head

794
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: spinning right now, I'm getting traffic. I didn't necessarily pick

795
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: up on that, but Boutista zero for ten on his

796
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: takedowns against Joseeldo. But again, you know, chewing up clock

797
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,959
Speaker 3: as you're trying to wrestle and preventing Jose from from

798
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 3: striking right. The middle eight main card opener Kenny between

799
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: Kevin Holland and Rome and de Leeds ended unceremoniously with

800
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 3: the rib injury I just said on the post fight

801
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: show after a DraftKings shoot a few years ago, Daniel

802
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: Cormier came up behind me and he picked me up

803
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: by my chest, tore my rib cartilage, and yeah, I

804
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: felt it for the next eight months. So respect to

805
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: Kevin Holland, I feel like it's a tough navigation for

806
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: the coach, Bob Perez, in how to navigate that situation

807
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: in trying to support your athlete but also not make

808
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 3: him make the decision.

809
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: So what do you have for us on that that.

810
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: Pudgy guy's pretty damn strong. How that Daniel Cormier I

811
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: remember locking up with him and I could not believe

812
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: how how weak and meager I felt locking up with

813
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: that dude. Anyways, Yeah, rib injury suck, Okay, I've had

814
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: it many times, the rib cartilage thing. My brother Keith

815
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 2: just getting over broken ribs from a couple months ago,

816
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: and it's brutal, man. It is extremely painful, and the

817
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: problem is is that it's linked to everything, so wherever

818
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: you go, any movement you make, you're in trouble. So

819
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: I think in the end it was the right move

820
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: to make. Dulite obviously had Holland in a lot of trouble.

821
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: Whether that, I think it happened right after the rib injury,

822
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: so you know, I don't think it would have gone

823
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: any better for him, So I think it was the

824
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: right call. Unfortunate there for Kevin Holland.

825
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: Who was doing looking great on the feet there and

826
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: Roman Deledze just continuing to get it done in his

827
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: UFC career by any means necessary. But I do believe

828
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 3: if like Kevin Holland's shoulder popped out, he'd be trying

829
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 3: to put that thing back in and fight. The rib

830
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: is just a unique thing and nothing to mess with

831
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 3: nor fight through. New Manta Joaquin Buckley can flow, what

832
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: else can be said about this guy, and I think

833
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: my biggest takeaway is that down to nil hey, man

834
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: gotta go for.

835
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 4: It, and he produces a fifty thousand dollars bonus.

836
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: It's fifth straight welterweight win since moving back to this

837
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: division and does to Stephen WonderBoy Thompson concussively, what I

838
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 3: haven't seen really anybody do to it?

839
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean Buckley. He has a gift. Man.

840
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: His physicality is extremely impressive, and you know what he

841
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: lacked in technique, he made up for it with his power.

842
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: And man, wonder Boy was having quite the night. He

843
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: was looking phenomenal. He was turning back the clock and

844
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: like you said, he looked fast as hell out there.

845
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 2: Countering was just on point. His takedown defense was looking

846
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: pretty solid. He was getting back to his feet really well.

847
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: And that could be extremely frustrating for a guy who

848
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: doesn't have that same level of experience as WonderBoy. It

849
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: didn't matter. This was a more mature Buckley who kept

850
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: it together, who kept pressing and finally landed that big shot.

851
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: WonderBoy was not in a very good defensive position, which

852
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: was rare for him, but Buckley kept poking and landed

853
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: a big, big shot man.

854
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: So Joaquin Buckley was I'll stop sort of saying roundly criticized,

855
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: but a lot of people the lack of maybe a

856
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: head coach, even though he has some standards and some

857
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: old reliables in his corner, right, But the impetus for

858
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: him staying home in Saint Louis, Missouri is to be

859
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: around his kids and his family, right. And it seems

860
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: though did the child hall and focused and stayed in

861
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: you know, like when Odds Shark recently asked me to

862
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: come up with like an NFL football team of UFC players,

863
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: Joaquing Buckley was my running back. Like there's something undeniable

864
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: about the athleticism and the implicasan Ghana I maybe is

865
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: the most spectacular knockout in UFC history. And like tonight Man,

866
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 3: just insane to flatline wonder boy like that. So for

867
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: sure it'd be interesting to see him moving forward. I mean,

868
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: what do we think about what do we think about

869
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: Woquing Buckley? I like the Kamara Usman call out, I mean,

870
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: what do you think? What's the ceiling? Can talk to me?

871
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: I think it was a huge, huge win and I

872
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: think this is gonna be a big confidence builder for

873
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: him as well. I think it's also gonna be a

874
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: good thing for him to look at and go, Okay, technically,

875
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: what do I need to do when I when I

876
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: do complete these takedowns to get better control on the ground,

877
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: what do I need to do to remove frames and

878
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 2: to kind of steer my guy away from the cage?

879
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: And once he starts working on that, whether it means

880
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 2: he's got to go somewhere else for the time being

881
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: for a quick camp as far as wrestling or jiu

882
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: jitsu or bringing guys in for him, you know, now

883
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna get the big names. Now he's got to

884
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: step up. And I think that if he's able to

885
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: get better as you know, technically, I think you can

886
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: pose a lot of problems for a lot of people, man,

887
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: and not not a whole lot of guys are able

888
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: to do that against someone like Wonder Boys.

889
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: He actually said he wanted to go to Charlotte, North

890
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: Carolina and stay at your house for like a week

891
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: and help with your kids. I told him your back

892
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: was bad, so that was not gonna happen. But I'm

893
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: just really excited for new Man's because I think a

894
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 3: lot of people in the public eye are a little

895
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: bit misunderstood, and certainly I can relate to a forgettable

896
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: utterance or two in my career, right. I mean, he

897
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: was definitely run through it for that wayward Connor McGregor

898
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: call out that none of us thought was the right

899
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 3: way to maximize the mic time. But I'm interested to

900
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: see walking Buckley, and I just think he has the

901
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: chance to present a lot of different problems for a

902
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 3: lot of different people. So a few other things I'd

903
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: like to get to on UFC three zero seven. And

904
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 3: thanks everybody for joining us at whatever hour it is,

905
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 3: one thirty am here in Salt Lake City, Ken Flow

906
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: burning it at all ends in North Carolina three thirty

907
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 3: am where you are. And by the way, our hearts

908
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 3: go out to everybody who has dealt with those awful

909
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: mother nature circumstances in North Carolina. Pretty far from you, Kenny,

910
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 3: but my gosh, the horror huh.

911
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple hours away, man. But you know a

912
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: lot of these mountain towns have been destroyed. Literally, They're

913
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: going to have to resurvey these towns, John, where roads

914
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: and mountains of where they used to be is completely changed.

915
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: Like backyards that have been collapsed. There are people that

916
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: are going to be dealing with this for months, man,

917
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: and just you know the stories I've heard, John, It's

918
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: it's horrible. It's really really sad. A lot of people

919
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: lost their lives. A lot of people's you know, lives

920
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: are never going to be the same even if they

921
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: did survive it. And you know, we've been doing everything possible,

922
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: try to get a lot of supplies up to them

923
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: and doing whatever we can to help. And I wish

924
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: I could do more, but man, it's it's been a

925
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: crazy week.

926
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate you sharing that. You know, sometimes you

927
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: get sort of caught up in this work bubble and

928
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: you feel like nothing matters more than a UFC live event,

929
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: and then you see everything that's going on. It's absolutely horrifying.

930
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 3: But our hearts go out to those people to be sure.

931
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: So a few other things I want to get to.

932
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: We will have another episode later this week. We will

933
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: give you our predictions and a preview of UFC Fight

934
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 3: Night Roy Vall versus Tyra Flyweight main event coming up

935
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: the Apex here Saturday night. But a lot of different

936
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: storylines here. Just to sort of close the book on

937
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: three to ZH seven. So Carla Asparza, right, And oftentimes

938
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: I've wondered, and yeah, I guess the UFC Hall of

939
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: Fame right now maybe has a one man voting body

940
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: that is Dana White and who knows what type of

941
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 3: you know, feedback he lets in. But sometimes I've wondered

942
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 3: to allow, like, when does the Hall of Fame come

943
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: calling for Hafayel Dosanjos, When does the Hall of Fame

944
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: come calling for Carla Asparza. You know, thug Rose nama

945
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: Unis is getting in pretty quickly after she retires, right,

946
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 3: but Carla beat her twice, beat everybody else. Right.

947
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: What do you think.

948
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: This moment forgetting the Hall of Fame for a second

949
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: does for Carla Asparza going off into retirement, a fighter

950
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: who dealt with criticism and booze even after winning championship fights.

951
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: To be able to go out like this with a

952
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: crowd showering her with adulation after a loss, I feel

953
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: like this night probably felt better in some of her wins.

954
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: Right. Well, Listen, Esparsea has been one of those competitors

955
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: that has been that has been very quiet in her approach.

956
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: She's been one of the hardest workers out there. She

957
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: has been extremely consistent in her approach. She're talking about

958
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: a former champion in the UFC, and you know, her

959
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: style is one that you know. Okay, maybe people aren't,

960
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: you know, buying pay per views to see her fighter

961
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 2: her style, but at the end of the day, as

962
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: a competitor, why you should admire her, whether you're an

963
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: athlete or not, is she gets it done. She finds

964
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: a way to win. She works her ass off, she's

965
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: never disrespectful, she's always classier and approach and even even

966
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: in a fight that she potentially won tonight, right just

967
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: you know, not a lot of people can keep it

968
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: together like that. So she deserves big time kudos.

969
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 3: Man and she asked to take a picture with the

970
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: broadcast team after the fighter. Mah god, I love you

971
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: Carlos and I love t Sha Pennington too. Out of

972
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: Fall River, Massachusetts. And by the way, even all the

973
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: split decisions that have gone against her, you know, out

974
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 3: of respect to Carla, maybe she didn't do this, but

975
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 3: part of me wish she would unleash whatever masshole resides

976
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 3: within and be like you guys want to boom me,

977
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 3: fuck you? You know right, channel her ally Atquinta for

978
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: a second, you know, because like I mean, a lot

979
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 3: of people thought she'd beat Tabitha Ricci, very competitive against

980
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 3: McKenzie Dern, losing split decisions, so double digit Charlwait wins

981
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: now for Tischa Pennington, and I thought that this was

982
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: a fight that she deserved to win. Congrats to court

983
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 3: McGee getting it done in the great state of Utah.

984
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 3: There and crazy man, right like Court McGee, seventeen of

985
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: his twenty two UFC fights I think had gone the distance, right,

986
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 3: usually a shoe in for a decision, he gets his

987
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 3: neck fixed.

988
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: It looks like a completely different fighter.

989
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: He's thirty nine, you know, just nude, He's got a

990
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: whole new lease on life, man, health as wealth.

991
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: I love it.

992
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: Man.

993
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: Well, I think we called what his ultimate fighter finale win,

994
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: right is that right? Why is that right? Yeah? Maybe? Yeah?

995
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: And to see where you know, all the fights that

996
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: he's had in the UFC and to see him get

997
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 2: the win by submission, that's really cool, man, Tim means

998
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: is no joke, And I feel like the guy's just

999
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: been doing it forever.

1000
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 3: Man.

1001
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: To have longevity in this sport is rare. To have

1002
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: longevity in the UFC is even rare, so props to him.

1003
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: Then I'm not sure if you saw Ryan Span win

1004
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: a bonus for his supermanateeine against Open Saint Crux the

1005
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: Great Guillotine. So consistency is the buzzword for Ryan Span.

1006
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: That hasn't really been his reality in the UFC. But

1007
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: he's still thirty three years of age, had a wealth

1008
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 3: of UFC experience, excuse me, a wealth of MMA experience

1009
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: even before getting to the UFC. I mean, he's every

1010
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 3: bit six', five he has, chokes he has, power he

1011
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 3: has a left hand from, hell he has a great head.

1012
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 3: COACH i don't know if he can find that, consistency

1013
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 3: but AND i Know Open Saint pruz forty one last

1014
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: fight of his. Contract but you know there's a lot of,

1015
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 3: us Including Anthony, smith who Beat Ryan span, twice that

1016
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 3: are really intrigued by this.

1017
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 2: Athlete, Keemplop, yeah no question about. It, Well SPAN's a finisher,

1018
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: man that's WHAT i like about. Him and uh and you,

1019
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: also you never know What Ryan span is going to show. Up.

1020
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: Man The Ryan span that showed up tonight is a.

1021
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: Problem and YES osp is forty, one BUT osp also

1022
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: has that capability of showing up on certain nights and

1023
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: he's able to beat a lot of guys in that division.

1024
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: Himself so For span to go out there and get this,

1025
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: WIN i thought was really. Impressed there they are the,

1026
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: JAUDITS i have. SOMETHING i would have stole those as,

1027
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: well to be.

1028
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 4: Fair SO i got some people to thank real.

1029
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 3: Quick So, steve our great head of security with a

1030
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 3: finer bald head than me In Dedra, cassidy our production

1031
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 3: coordinator who just delivered My jordans.

1032
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: Back to my.

1033
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: Room so somebody In Salt Lake, City, utah goes into

1034
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 3: the male talent dressing room. Tonight you're lucky you didn't

1035
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: steal something To Joe rogan's young. Man, ANYWAY i shouldn't

1036
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: assume it was a man and not a. Woman but

1037
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 3: Those jordans went home with this, person and Then arena

1038
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 3: security knocked on their, door their home door, presumably and

1039
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: got my Children's what an incredible, story thanks to everybody.

1040
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: Involved All, right a few other things before we get

1041
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: on out of. Here So Ihor potieria and Says Or

1042
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: almeida fought in a middleweight fight and there was a

1043
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: referee that became the story in this. Fight there were

1044
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 3: four ipokes From. ALMEIDA a point was not deducted and

1045
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 3: you only get so many cracks at this right And

1046
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: Ehor potieria is now two and five in THE, ufc and,

1047
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: like come, on, Man SO i don't know what you

1048
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: have for us on, that but it's always interesting for

1049
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: me to watch the undressing of the individual by the

1050
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 3: commission and the other. Referees And i'm sure they do it,

1051
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 3: respectfully but you, know this referee who hasn't a clue

1052
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 3: takes his walk of shame down the octagon stairs And

1053
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: Mike belchean And mark God it then agreed to, like, hey,

1054
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 3: man not going back in there, tonight are?

1055
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 2: YOU i don't recall it was that was in? There

1056
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: like it's JUST i don't it's.

1057
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 3: A, blur.

1058
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: Dude but you know a lot of these referees and

1059
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: the same goes in jiu jitsu, competitions, man where they

1060
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: don't have the balls to make the right. Call. Man

1061
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: it's like they don't want to disrupt and they don't

1062
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 2: want to do but the rules are the, rules, Man

1063
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: and when you're seeing someone who's doing, it AND i,

1064
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: listen let's make the. ASSUMPTION i don't Think almina was

1065
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: trying to do. That but once the hand is, open,

1066
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: right you warn, them you see the, eyepoke it, Happens

1067
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: it happens, again maybe Too, okay maybe maybe Too but after, that,

1068
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: man you gotta start taking points. Away that's not. Cool

1069
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: this is how you can change a fighter's, life, right

1070
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 2: not only with the, loss but also with, like you,

1071
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 2: know things like scratched retina or whatever it, is you,

1072
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: know detached, RETINA a bunch of different things that can

1073
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: happen to the eye which can affect the fighter for

1074
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 2: the rest of his. Life so, YEAH i would have

1075
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: liked the scene at least one point taken. Away and

1076
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: for referees that are just getting started and maybe not

1077
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: so comfortable in, there you gotta take, charge, man that's your.

1078
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 3: Job it seems to me most of the elite referees

1079
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 3: when it comes to an eye, poke will give the

1080
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: fighter the benefit of the.

1081
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 4: DOUBT i would much rather see.

1082
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 3: A referee allow the action to continue with a groin

1083
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 3: strike than an, eyepoke, Right But poterio's reaction to me

1084
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 3: seemed to be one that would have afforded him the

1085
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: benefit of the doubt after that first. Ipoke BUT i

1086
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: just wanted to bring that up and not gonna name

1087
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 3: the individual who refereed the, fight but you, Know i'm

1088
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: AN mma, fan, right and obviously my job puts me

1089
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 3: in a position where SOMETIMES i can't be THAT mma.

1090
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: Fan BUT i did find myself sort of lacking some

1091
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 3: professionalism a little bit after the, fight trying to get

1092
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: this guy's not on the, air but trying to get

1093
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: this guy's, attention you, know to be, like, hey, man

1094
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: like you gotta let them grapple a little bit in the,

1095
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 3: clinch like at least four, seconds you, know when the

1096
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 3: combatsembo pancration guy is trying to maybe take the world

1097
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 3: class kickboxer to the fence for a few seconds, strategically.

1098
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 2: Like what are we?

1099
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 3: Doing? Right its congratulations also To Yasmine. Luscindo she was

1100
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,959
Speaker 3: born in two thousand and, Two, kenny and she's going

1101
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 3: in there and Beating Marina, handriguez their number six in the.

1102
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 4: WORLD i just am so amazed by some of these young.

1103
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 3: Athletes right made her pro debut at, fourteen fifteen years

1104
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: old because she saw her mom and her aunt getting

1105
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 3: beat up and wanted to defend. THEM i, mean, well

1106
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 3: it was.

1107
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: Very prescient of, you because you mentioned that just as

1108
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: the fight, STARTED i, believe and it was that same

1109
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: level of maturity and composure that allowed her to win that.

1110
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: Fight and it's a rarety in this, sport in a

1111
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: sport of a bunch of hotheads that are always trying

1112
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: to prove themselves for better or, worse a lot of

1113
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: times in a good, way you, know where you're, like,

1114
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: oh they hit, Me NOW i have to go out

1115
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: there and hit The it was, smart it was excellent,

1116
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: execution and she did it against a real veteran In Hodriguez.

1117
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: Man So i'm REAL i like With, Sinda i'm really

1118
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: curious to see what she brings to the table moving.

1119
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 3: Forward so about a month, ago Major league baseball, player

1120
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: great third baseman and a confluent podcast Listener Evan, longoria was, wondering,

1121
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: you who Speaks Brazilian, portuguese was not accenting the, names

1122
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 3: and now you're just doing it like. GRATUITOUSLY i, Mean,

1123
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 3: Haddriguez my, goodness whatever just came out of your? Mouth all,

1124
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: right last, THING i just want to say, So AND

1125
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 3: i don't really like having these, conversations BUT i kind

1126
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: of feel like we need a kicker On Alex paeda

1127
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: before we get on out of here and let you

1128
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 3: go to bed at three forty two. Am so for,

1129
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 3: me Like Mount, RUSHMORE i begin the conversation With John,

1130
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 3: Jones George Saint, Pierre Demitrius, johnson and then whoever you

1131
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 3: want to put in the fourth slot is. Fine But Alex,

1132
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: Poe Aton, Paeda kenny as Chill son and said all

1133
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: week was the least experienced fighter on this fight, Card

1134
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 3: and to have any conversation about the all time great

1135
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 3: fighters IN mma and not include his name now at

1136
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: this point in, time seems like an incomplete. Conversation.

1137
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: NO i, mean the guy's a. Beast you, know there's

1138
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 2: no question about. That one thing is for. SURE i

1139
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 2: don't know if we're ever gonna see a guy with

1140
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: that little amount of experience do what he's done in THE.

1141
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: Ufc it's there's no real comparison in the variety of,

1142
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: divisions in the manner that he's doing, it with the

1143
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: level of fanfare that he's doing. It he's something, different

1144
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: and perhaps when it's all said and, done he will

1145
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: find himself at least in that top. Five SO i

1146
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: just feel lucky THAT i get a chance to watch

1147
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: him fight and compete, man and you should feel blessed

1148
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: you get a chance to call his fights and be around.

1149
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: Him AS i do think he's different.

1150
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 4: In terms of just singular championship.

1151
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 3: REIGNS i would probably put what the last Style bender

1152
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 3: did at middleweight up against this current light heavyweight run Of.

1153
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: Poeton But cody does ASK i think an interesting. Question

1154
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 3: Has Alex padeedo's legacy already Surpassed Israelata? Sonia? Right and

1155
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 3: if you are someone who who glorifies these two division,

1156
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 3: champions and rightfully, so if you are in that, class,

1157
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 3: right you, know it's just. Incredible it really is incredible

1158
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 3: what this man has accomplished in a short amount of.

1159
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 3: Time and we congratulate the entire, team the bonus Winners

1160
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 3: Alex padta And Khalil Rountree. JUNIOR i can't wait to

1161
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 3: Give khalil a hug for that fight of the night

1162
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,600
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1163
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,960
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01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,080
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1165
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 3: podcast listeners viewers for staying up late watching the show

1166
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 3: tonight here on The DraftKings YouTube. Channel thanks to everybody

1167
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 3: who maybe is watching the show for the first. Time

1168
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: hopefully you will join us for our next. Episode, thursday

1169
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 3: we will PREVIEW Ufc Fight, Night Roy vall Versus, tyra

1170
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: and we will also circle back TO ufc three oh

1171
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 3: seven with the Great ray long. Ago thanks to our

1172
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 3: executive Producer Cody, Merrill thanks To Kenny florian for staying up.

1173
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 3: Late you're a good. Man you know that you're a good.

1174
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 3: Man and thanks to everybody In Salt Lake city for

1175
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: making this just another incredible live. Event we'll be back

1176
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: with you in about seventy two. Hours i'm gonna try

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01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 3: to shut this brain, down get some. Sleep until, then

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01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: you'll later