1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: I was in command of the Union troops at the 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Battle of Manassas, the second one. That's my truth. It's 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: one more thing. 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm strong and getty. One more thing. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: I can't Biden enveloped the Poliopac scene. That's my truth. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Can't imagine what the hell you're talking about. I'm sure 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: we'll find out momentarily. First, a little bit from the 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: opening of Saturday Night Live. We uh, we kind of 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: feel like we're show friends with this guy, the guy 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: that does the great Trump impersonation, because we had him 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: do a clip for US years ago before he was 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: even on SML. His Trump is the best. Anyway, here 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: we go. 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: President Trump, if elected, what would you do to stop 15 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift from infiltrating the Super Bowl and stealing the election? 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 3: You know, thank you. That's actually one of the smartest 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 3: and most research questions I think possibly ever. You know, 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 3: we all know that Biden has brainwashed Tata. Okay, they're 19 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: using her in something called Psyops, which started, of course 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: with the great Koretan rapper Ray PSI right, that's his name. 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: He's a dear friend. 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: Gangam. 23 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 3: You told me you needed a new style, I said, 24 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: what about Gangam? We love Gangham so much. And now 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: they've got Tae pretending to date Trey k That's what 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: I call Travis Kelson. And he's such a terrible boyfriend. Okay, 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: he can't even get Taylor tickets near the field. Have 28 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: you seen that? He's got a way up in a 29 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: little box. 30 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: So sad? God, his his inflection and the various kinds 31 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: of Trump voices they are there are really good, right boy, 32 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: if you want to this might be the most annoying 33 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: sixty seconds of audio we've ever done since we're over 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and as everybody is, and now I've got 35 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: Royal Family news, boy that this might be the worst. Okay, Katie, 36 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: you canna be all right? 37 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: Nope, Ay, I'm with you, sister. I disavow this podcast. 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: I disavowed. 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: Are you quitting the show? This just came across the 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: word King Charles has cancer. They were doing prostate surgery 41 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: and found cancer, which I find an interesting way to 42 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: word it. I wouldn't think they'd be doing prostate cancer 43 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: unless they knew he had can or they would have Yeah, 44 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: I would have thought anyway. The only reason I bring 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: this up at all is if he's at all very ill. 46 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: The conversation is going to start among some of the 47 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: whole So who's next in line? Will Harry was Meghan? 48 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: Next in line? 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Oh? I hope so. 50 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: Meghan was Queen England. Maybe that would kill off this 51 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: whole stupid experiment. 52 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: No, it's stignified bald headed William right and his cute 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: wife and Kate Kate, Kate Middleton. That's right. Embarrassed that 54 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed that I did too. Yeah, I'm embarrassed that 55 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: you knew. 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: That so he'd be he'd be the King of England. 57 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and with all the duties and responsibilities thereof whatever. 58 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: I don't care. 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: Make a monkey the care or the red head with 60 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: the obnoxious Megan girlfriend. 61 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: I don't care, wife, I don't care. I think we 62 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: all want Harry and Meghan to be king and queen though, right, 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: because I'd be just more entertaining for the world all 64 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: the way around if you put it go into my 65 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: head and make me choose. Yeah, I'd go for that exactly, 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: because then you got the whole South Park thing of 67 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: where's our privacy? Give us up privacy? They stand on 68 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: top of their house with the light beam and band 69 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: playing we want privacy. 70 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to admit that if the royal family 71 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: is going well, there's nothing in it for me. It's 72 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: only when it cracks up that it becomes something that 73 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: I have any interest. 74 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: Maybe we could make William the King of England and 75 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: shoot him and Taylor Swift into space at the same time, 76 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: and both of the conversations. I think we ought to have. 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Like a debate between William and Harry for who ought 78 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: to be the king, and they can just bring out 79 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: old grievances and like really go after. 80 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: Each other, right, including that you're not you know, even related. 81 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, whatever you say, Red Redhead. It's funny. It's 82 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: kind of weird, isn't. 83 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: It funny how you don't look like dad at all? 84 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: So the my truth thing. I've been meaning to squeeze 85 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: this into the radio show, but it's really long. 86 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you. I gotta just tell you this. 87 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the cable news channels, all the TV's 88 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: breaking news, King Charles diagnosed with cancer. Who fucking cares 89 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: need to know news? I mean, seriously, do you know? 90 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: I know? I don't know. I I personally don't know 91 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: my entire world of people I know. I don't think 92 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: I know a single person that would give a shit. 93 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. But the fact that I'm having 94 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: to try to think kind of answers the question. 95 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: I know one, you know one who would care? 96 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: I know one, no one, and I'm going to avoid 97 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: this conversation with that person at all costs. 98 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: And what are their other qualities? 99 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: They watched The Kardashians, Oh okay, okay, that type of 100 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: stuff gotcha. 101 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: So it's a soap opera then for them? Then yeah, 102 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: the Crown on Netflix was like a big deal. Ah right, Oh? 103 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: I just find this all so exhausting. Do you feel 104 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: do you feel like getting dumber? Because I do? Oh yeah? 105 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: And if we ever because you've invited this to various 106 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: get togethers with you and your parents' stuff, if we 107 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: ever are ever able to make it, can you make 108 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: sure that person is not there. They're not a chance, 109 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: they're country. I don't want to meet that person, Nope, 110 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: won't subjected to that. I promise I. 111 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: Will give you one thousand United States dollars if you 112 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: invite that person and tell them Jack wants to hear 113 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: all about the royal famer Joe. 114 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: We will talk after the podcast. 115 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: And that would be a bargain. I would just watch 116 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: his face the whole night. 117 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: Oh god boy. 118 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: So anyway, I was hoping to it this during the show, 119 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: but it's a little longish in its entirety. It's a 120 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: piece written by Josh Barrow, and it has to do 121 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: with the you know, it's a campus madness story about 122 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, universities and and how so much of research 123 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: and the research papers that everybody the peer reviewed this and. 124 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 2: That, how a lot of it's crap. 125 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: And he was part of that world. And he's writing, 126 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: especially in the social sciences, not only can you not 127 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: replicate the results of some of these surveys and experiments 128 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: and stuff, nobody even tries, nobody even thinks of it. 129 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: So it's completely phony and everybody knows it. 130 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the replication problem is a serious issue for the 131 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: university world right now. 132 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and even in some of the harder sciences. And 133 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: this guy is talking about the fake sciences, the grievance 134 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: studies and stuff like that, and how there again nobody 135 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: even asks them to be accurate or for their research 136 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: to have an ounce. 137 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: Of rigor to it. 138 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: It's she's just not even asked, which is I think 139 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: would be shocking to a lot of Americans. But this 140 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: was my favorite part. And he quotes a guy who 141 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: wrote about a paper by Jenny Bolstrode, a historian of 142 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: science at the University of London, so this is one 143 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: of the great universities on Earth, who alleges that a 144 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: moderately notable metallurgical technique patented in England in the late 145 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds was in fact stolen from the black Jamaican 146 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: metallurgists who really developed it. Okay, so this is incredibly obscure. 147 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: But this guy, this seventeen hundreds guy in England, I 148 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: think Henry Court was his name. He's been credited for 149 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: one hundreds of years developing whatever this metal technique is. 150 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: But she says, no, it was actually stolen from black Jamaicans. 151 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: But her paper failed to show that such a technique 152 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: was ever even used in Jamaica, much less that the 153 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: guy he credits with developing ever did anything with this. 154 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it's like claiming that I commanded 155 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: the troops at Antietam or something. There's no evidence of 156 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: it whatsoever. I'm going to quote now the paper because 157 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: it fit into the fashionable category of historian finds yet 158 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: another thing that is racist. 159 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: Garnered a lot. 160 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: It got a lot of press coverage, and when people 161 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: pointed out that the paper didn't have the goods, the 162 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: editors of the journal published it came out with a 163 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: what is truth anyway type word salad in defense of 164 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: the article, including this couple of sentences. We by no 165 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: means hold that fiction is a meaningless category. Dishonesty and 166 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: fabrication and academic scholarship are ethically unacceptable, but we do 167 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: believe that what counts as accountability to our historical subject, 168 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: our readers in our communities is not singular or to 169 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: be dictated prior to engaging in a historical study. If 170 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: we are to confront the anti blackness of Euro American 171 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: intellectual traditions as those have been explicated over the last 172 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: century by any names of scholars and scholars of the 173 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: subsequent generations, we must grasp that what is experienced by 174 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: dominant actors in Euro American cultures as empiricism is deeply 175 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: conditioned by the predicating logics of colonialism and racial capitalism. 176 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: To do otherwise is to reinstitate or reinstate older forms 177 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: of profoundly selective historicism that support white domination. That was 178 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: their answer to, Uh, there weren't any black Jamaicans doing this, 179 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: and the guy you named never did anything like this. Well, 180 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: the historicism of the predating logics of colonialism racial capitalism. 181 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: So it's a long paragraph of nonsense that says, we 182 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: sure would like this to be true, though, wouldn't we 183 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: all feel better? Wouldn't we all feel better if this 184 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: were true? I no idea better. 185 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: If this fits the sort of thing we I'd like 186 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: to be true, then you bringing up facts, man, is 187 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: just a drag. And these are leading journals publishing the 188 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: work by leading professional professors from the top universities. 189 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in a crazy time. 190 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, it's overwhelming how far into crazyville you 191 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: would have to go to even start fixing this problem. 192 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: I remember, what was that story we had about debates? 193 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: Was it high school or college debates? That always blew 194 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: my mind? 195 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no longer about arguments and facts. It's whoever 196 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: expressed their emotions the most effectively about their truth they're 197 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: the winner of the debate. 198 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: And the other teams don't even challenge that because it 199 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: would look so bad for them to challenge it, so 200 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: they just kind of, oh, for right, Yeah they bow out. 201 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 202 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: If you are outnumbered by people of color or gay 203 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: people or whatever on the other team, you don't even 204 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: argue with them because that would make you a racist 205 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: than a homophobe and a transphob or whatever you say. 206 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: They win, They totally win. We're sorry we even came 207 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: here today. How effing crazy is that. 208 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: Heavy lays the prostate that wears the crown. That's what 209 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: I say. Go cheez, well, I guess that's it.