1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Re revee dalks. Look at us now, tip, it's a tip. 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: This is Morning Combat. 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, once a week. It sounds like this, 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: it feels like this. It is Friday. All right, let's 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: brush our beards, let's get fired. The heck up. You 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: stumbled in upon the best damn combat sports show period, right, 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean award winning You can check the uh hell, 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: let me get right to that one. You can check 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: the colonels in your own shit for that one. Hey, 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: it's Friday, January thirteenth, twenty twenty three. Welcome in a 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: Friday edition of Morning Combat. I am your co hostess 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: with the mostest. That guy right there, the American one. Yes, 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: you got a b d C BBC with the BDE 17 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: making it look ec My partner in crime is Luke 18 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Thomas Washington, d c's own one of the best fight 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: analysts in the game today, a social justice warrior when 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: it needs justice and Luke, okay, look at that. Look 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: at that right there, Jared Swiftford. That's what we're talking about. 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: B C and d C Right here, Luke, how are 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: you on this Friday? 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: I'm doing quite well. Fun show. I'm going to meet 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: my nephew for the first time tomorrow. My brother and 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: my sister in law had a baby and I'm going 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: to meet him tomorrow. Pretty excited about it. 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: Does he have a name or is this a don't 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: you know? I want to get too personal with the 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: weirdos here? 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna If it was my kid, 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: I would just tell you, but I don't know if 33 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: my brother wants the baby's name in the street. But 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 2: suffice to say it's a big days. 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: I'll take the social Security number if you've got it. 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: I be. 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: Web type right there. Okay, Wow, what a time to 38 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: be alive, What a wild time to be on the 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: best damn show? And what it's time if you have 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: the hopes and dreams, or if you're the Paquets and 41 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: you got the ways and means to go with that, 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: what it's time to see us live MK in the UK? 43 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: That time is getting oh so close. Wednesday, February eighth, 44 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: King's Place in London. I believe that's the King's Court neighborhood. 45 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. But the Sports podcast 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: group is putting on pod Live, the first of its 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: kind a podcast festival right there in London. We're co 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: headlining it. We've got a live show that Wednesday night, 49 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: ninety minutes of fun, five hundred seats to sell, and 50 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: Luke Thomas we've moved a lot of them, but the 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: days are being numbered here and every time we check 52 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: there's less and less free ass chairs available. How fired 53 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: up are you to greet your people across the pond 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: detting in Quoy, you know, cont yourself in the UK 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: plus Luke, you know, get that united feeling. 56 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta tell you, I'm pretty excited about this one. 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: As we mentioned, every time we check the seats, they're 58 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: The sand is moving through the hourglass, folks. The sand 59 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: is moving, so it's time to get on that now. 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: We appreciate everyone who's been there, who's sending us messages 61 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: on we're going. Luke, Yes, we're happy to see you, 62 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: but if you've not made that move yet, time is now. 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: I am trying to figure out what we're gonn announce 64 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: the guests, because I keep hearing that they're confirmed, but 65 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: then we haven't announced anything so well the story is there. 66 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: You know. I believe we're also gonna be shooting some 67 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: other you know, fun bonus content while we're out there. 68 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: Hopefully some interviews too. So there is a list of 69 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: people that we are in contact with. Luke. We're kind 70 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: of just setting it up across the board. I hope 71 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: we're pretty soon because any remaining seats, I think when 72 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: they hear who we've got there with us, right, you 73 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, they find out we you know, 74 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: we have to a round, brought Megan Markle up on stage. 75 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: I think that's we're gonna sell it pretty fast. 76 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah. No, I don't know if we're gonna 77 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: have Megan Markle or anything like that. But it's gonna 78 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: be fun. It's gonna be different, it's gonna be weird, 79 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: it's gonna be cool. It's gonna be maybe a once 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: in a lifetime moment. So be there, be there, UK donks. 81 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: So hit that QR code down there on the bottom 82 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: corner of the screen. I'm sure there's other ways in 83 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: our YouTube description for you to find out how to 84 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: get your tickets, how to join right there, Appy's gonna 85 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: be in the flesh, Okay for better or worse. We 86 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: got we got a big, big things to get excited about. 87 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Thank you to our folks, our finest Showtime, the label 88 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: that pays us. And you can try out Showtime right now. 89 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: And why wouldn't you thirty days free by going to 90 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: Showtime dot com. We're talking about Bellatoor, MMA, Showtime Championship Boxing, 91 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: show Box, the new Generation back next week with your 92 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: boy BC. After that thirty days right when it's like 93 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: do I pound the sand or do I keep enjoying 94 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: amazing content including w Kamal Bell's Bill Cosby Doc. How 95 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: about six more months to try it out at three 96 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: ninety nine. Look, that's like putting a ring on it, right. 97 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: You can still back out at the wedding anyway. Anybody object, 98 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: please speak now or forever hold your piece. You know 99 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: what I mean? You got six months at three ninety nine. 100 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: Can you beat that with a bat? 101 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: You can't beat that with a stick. Time to get 102 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: on that. Plus, as we mentioned, it's not just the boxing, 103 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: it's not just the bell to ur, it's everything else 104 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: on Showtime and on the app. Like all the docks, 105 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: all the not are docks, but like their docks, the 106 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: ones that aren't full of dongs and everything else. Go 107 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: check them out there, warm winning stuff. 108 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: So they're Boys in Blue the four part series Luke 109 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: Football Minneapolis Police, changing the relationship the feel there. Uh 110 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: check that out four episode streaming right now. Boys in 111 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Blue part of the deal overall, get over there on showtime. Also, 112 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: we wear great merch in these parts. Check out this hat. 113 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: It's fantastic coffee mug right here. Oh yeah, Morningcombat dot store. 114 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: I've talked to r J. What's his real name, Luke, 115 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: do you even know. 116 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: Rowding Gardner? Right, it's uh god, there's one I have saved. 117 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: But I think it would get us, It would lose 118 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: us our monetization. 119 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just let's just leave him the Big Ray, Okay. 120 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: Talk to Big Ray and he told me, Luke that 121 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: we got some big plans, some UK merch maybe on 122 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: the on the horizon too. Really see, we'll see. Okay, 123 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: all right. You know people like you know, BC only 124 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: cares about himself in his factory town. Don't forget on 125 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: one ath IRUs s all right, all right, don't forget 126 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: that I was adopted by the Ireland. 127 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: Is not in the UK? 128 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, part part of the British Isles the extent, you know, the. 129 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: Through if there was a way the British Isles either, Yeah, it. 130 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: Is, the two islands make up the British Isles. But 131 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: if there's a way that we could bring them together 132 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: and unite, Luke, if anyone just had an idea, you 133 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: know what I mean, enough minuses in the relationship. I 134 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: want pluses, right, a big plus. We'll get to that later. 135 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: I forgot where we were, but I will tell you 136 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: that we do have great merch, some Morningcombat Dot store 137 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: right there. Anything else I should sell, Luke, or you 138 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: want to you want to talk about your life at all? 139 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: They're complicated. Oh there is one. There is one bit 140 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: of a note. And I gotta confirm this with our producer, Mikey, 141 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure this is true. I'm pretty sure. 142 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: I'm doing a post fight show for the first UFC 143 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: event back this weekend, so I believe the main card 144 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: for tomorrow's UFC event. By the way, of course, there's 145 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: one tonight, but tomorrow the main card for UFC starts 146 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: at seven pm Eastern, So we'll go to about nine 147 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: thirty ish, tennish, ten thirty ish something like that, and 148 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: we'll do a post fight show right after that is over. 149 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: So we're gonna kick in. I mean, the New Year's 150 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: been on for two weeks now, but I'm saying the 151 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: beginning of the UFC's new year. We'll kick that off 152 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: the right way. 153 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: And Luke, we will be setting the stage for this 154 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: weekend's events, which you just teased a little later on 155 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: in the show, and wills to be debuting a pick 156 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: segment where you and I for this for this calendar year. 157 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: Every week you're gonna go head to head. You know, 158 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 1: hopefully some of our famous donks, our favorite famous donks 159 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: will jump into whether celebrity or you know, future felons 160 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: and send in theirs as well. But we'll get to 161 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: it later in the show. But you and I are 162 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: each going to pick five strategic picks, little gimmicks thrown 163 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: in and we're gonna keep a running scoreboard. At the 164 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: end of the year. We're gonna make each other do 165 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: something that they don't want to do. More on that 166 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: to come, So get ready for that today. 167 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going. 168 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: To finally, finally, we got Luke Thomas to agree. 169 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: With so many insults I want to lob at you 170 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: and I can't for any number of reasons, but I 171 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: want you to know I'm thinking about them. I'm thinking 172 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: about very damaging insults about you. 173 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: The best thing about me, Luke, is you know in 174 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: the in the pocket and the pivot, I just swivel. 175 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: I'll just truncate that. You see my unk movement in the. 176 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, rug got you gotta do me a favor here ready? 177 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: So what you're looking at here, what you're looking at 178 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: this is a fifty dollars haircut. What do you think 179 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: rate my fifty dollars haircut? 180 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: Dude? That's that's where I come from. That's a solid 181 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: seventeen dollars haircut. I would be pleased with that if 182 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: I were you. I mean DC's inflation rate. Maybe that's 183 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: why the service workers are so upset all the time, 184 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: and it want nothing to do with my charmer or charisma. 185 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: Maybe that's why, Luke, But because they're paying for everything 186 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: out the ass. Dude, I got two waters and two 187 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: coffees for forty dollars when I was there at the 188 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't believe that. 189 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: I don't believe that happened. I do believe. I do 190 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: believe you paid forty bucks in Starbucks and it wasn't 191 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: worth the forty bucks. I don't think it was two 192 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: bottles of water and two coffees. By the way, who 193 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: were you buying water and coffee for? 194 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: I know, you know, you know my favorite thing to 195 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: do on the road, Luke, be alone in my room. 196 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: Right, it's for me, it is, yes, just as long 197 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: as Luke's not there, you're happy. Just get that, motherfucker. 198 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: I just wanted to like touch me and then you know, 199 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: order food and leave it for an hour. It's just, 200 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's It's already an interesting marriage, Luke. 201 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean, do we have to be that close? Can't 202 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: we be like most marriages and sleep in separate rooms 203 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: if we come on? 204 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: Look, yes, we could definitely do that. 205 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: All right, there you go. 206 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: Uh, we're gonna give you. 207 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you a great show soon. I promised. 208 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: I thought there was other things I had to sell. Oh, 209 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: you had a good chat with aj McKee. We'll reference 210 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: that a little bit later, but they can check it 211 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: out YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat for all of 212 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: our bonus stuff. We got to start bonusing more. We 213 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: gotta start hitting these people right in the right in 214 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: their fiel hole with with with great dynamic content. I'm 215 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: ready all right, yeah, live chat fans. 216 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's been a little slowest the change of 217 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: the new year, but we're gonna pick it back up here. 218 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you b c live chat fans. Okay, there's 219 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: eventually going to be a daily chat, Luke. Eventually it's 220 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: my life will be a living documentary. No it won't, 221 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: or the inside of my thoughts will be in. 222 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: All seriousness before we kick the show off because we're 223 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: twelve minutes in. We're just fucking burning time here, love, 224 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: But that's what. 225 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: We do on Fridays. We burn time on this end 226 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: while our view burn you know. 227 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean once once, once it turns one pm, 228 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: your boys out, so you might just have to carry 229 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: the show from there on out. But uh am, I 230 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: am I correct in hearing that there could and I'm 231 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: listening to the words I'm saying, could be a doc 232 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: for our trip to the UK? Is that true? 233 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to, like, you know, bring, I don't 234 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: want to you know, I mean, like I like to 235 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: flirt with the fourth wall, but I don't want to 236 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: give people all the facts. But you know, I did 237 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: take it to the top in the last forty eight hours, 238 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: Luke and and did get that signature? Okay, I did 239 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: get it. I received, I tracked it down. I got it. 240 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, I got the I got the digits. We're 241 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: gonna bang. Okay, twoey twoey line one two it Yes, 242 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: we're banging. Yes, please, all right, let's do this all right? Yeah? Sorry, 243 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of a little spilits there. All right, 244 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: all that good shit is fun, But it's time to 245 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: get into this award winning show and the content and 246 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of news in the last forty eight 247 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: hours as big time stories affecting the world of mixed 248 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: martial arts has been really particularly the UFC, these stories 249 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: are not going away. In Topic number one on this Friday, 250 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: referencing a piece put out by ESPN's David Perdume, I 251 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: believe Mark Ray Munday and maybe others contribute to it 252 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: as well, But we have an update on James Cross 253 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: based on ESPN's reporting. James Krause excuse me. James Kross, 254 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: of course, the ex UFC fighter and well renowned coach 255 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: now in the middle of this overall gambling drama excommunicated 256 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: from the UFC. In general, we know a lot about 257 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: the things he told Ariel Hawane on his show in 258 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: the past year, which seems to shed a lot of 259 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: light on the inside all the way from there through 260 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: the Derek Minner fight. But Luke, what we know about 261 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: the ESPN's reporting is this, James Krause was acting reportedly 262 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: as an agent for offshore bookmaking operations for years. Multiple 263 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: sources who place bets with him told ESPN he's worked 264 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: as an agent, which is more of a middleman between 265 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: offshore sportsbooks and betters for ABC Betting dot AG according 266 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: to people who wagered with him as far back as 267 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. These sites of course come from the Caribbean. 268 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: So Luke, the reporting when when a lot deeper they 269 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: caught up with Derek Minner, who who made a lot 270 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: of denials, this is this might be even deeper than 271 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: we thought when you look at that Kraus wasn't just 272 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: involved heavily in betting and everything he told Ariel, but 273 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: you know he was really taking over other people's accounts 274 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: and really sort of running the show tax free in 275 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: between illegally as basically a modern day bookie. How much 276 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: does this change or escalate in your eyes? This larger 277 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: scandal in general. 278 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: Fair a fair amount, because the article doesn't even really 279 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: get to the idea of where the initial investigation began, 280 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: which was was their suspicious betting around a fight potentially 281 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: being thrown. The article doesn't, I mean, it talks about 282 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: that scandal, but it doesn't really substantially get to that. 283 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: It's not it's not principally about it. What it's principally 284 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: about is what you had indicated, which was that, according 285 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: to this report, James Crowd acted as an agent for 286 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: an offshore betting company basically. And I've had a couple 287 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 2: of people reach out to me to give you some 288 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: additional details, and I've talked to some folks who actually 289 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: wrote the story yesterday. I just want folks to understand something. 290 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: You can read the story for yourself. We don't have 291 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: to rehash all of it. But just let's be very 292 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: clear about this. This is what is alleged in the article. 293 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what's going to happen with James Krause, 294 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: but let's posit that what we read in that story 295 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: is true. If what we read in that story is true, 296 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: he's going to prison. Let's just be that's just that's 297 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: what's going to happen here. If that story is true, 298 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: he has likely committed wire fraud. If that story is true, 299 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: he will be guilty of taking illegal bets. He could 300 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: be involved in mail fraud, he could be involved in 301 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: any number of felonious illegal acts that are almost certain 302 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: to get prison time. And more to that point, they 303 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: might make an example out of him. 304 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: Again, We'll say, my look, they're gonna make a monster, 305 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: meaning for everyone from the law to UFC like they 306 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: want this gone. They're gonna. 307 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: For sure they're gonna put the hammer. Let me add 308 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: one more point, be seeing that you could take it back, which. 309 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: Oh I don't want to back. I'm just letting you 310 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: know that hammer's coming. Bro. 311 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: All right, I'll just say this. I don't know who 312 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: all the sources were for this story, but as someone 313 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: who spent time as an editor for two of the 314 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: major sites in MMA for more than ten years, let 315 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: me put on my editor hat and tell you what 316 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: I can smell out from this story. I think law 317 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: enforcement is part of this story in terms of who's 318 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: a source, and I think they're looking to get people 319 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: to flip. That's what it looks like to me. That's 320 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: what it looks like to me. So again, to the 321 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: point in which we are having this conversation Friday, the 322 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: thirteenth of January twenty twenty three, he has not been 323 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: Folks were asking me, like, what does this mean for 324 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: his jail sentence. I'm like, well, first of all, he's 325 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: not been charged with anything. These are alleged in this report. 326 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: I just want folks to be very clear, if what 327 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: that report alleges is true, it is virtually impossible for 328 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: me to see anything other than him going to prison. 329 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: That doesn't even get to the point about whether or 330 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: not fights were thrown, if that in fact happened, just 331 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: on the wire fraud, just on mail fraud, just on 332 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: taking and running legal bets, by the way, giving a 333 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: line of credit to the bets that he was helping 334 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: to be the agent for. So he wasn't just taking 335 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: the money and then delivering it or vice versa. Again, 336 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: according to what some of the people said in the story, 337 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: he was also involved in the line of credit. I mean, 338 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: there is so much alleged conflict of interest that if 339 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: any of that is true, it is very hard to 340 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: see away he doesn't go to prison for this. 341 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: But look at this deeper. So Jeff Molina, the fighter 342 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: who was also let go by the UFC and sort 343 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: of caught up in this band with Minner and Kraus, 344 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: and I believe more is to come because the FBI 345 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: is investigating this. But Molina was one of those that 346 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: Kraus specifically recruited, where like you said, you give Milana credit, 347 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: you give them a password and access to the site, 348 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: and you're the middleman who can make bets for them. 349 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean, so, look, this is wild because it brings 350 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: to light even more illuminated and further the conversation that 351 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: Kraus had with Ariel that I keep referencing on the 352 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: MMA hour this past summer, Like, look, he basically set, 353 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: meaning James Krause set in motion, you know, the spark 354 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: for what this investigation became by almost bragging about it. 355 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: And so you say, in hindsight, was this just like 356 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: one of the major dumb criminal moments of all time 357 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: to basically out yourself on a major, you know, nationally 358 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: globally watched program and kind of give details about how 359 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: you're doing this in almost a bragging way. Or was 360 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: that for it was that in his mind his way 361 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: to recruit on an even larger level because you have 362 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: to look back and say a lot of these key 363 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: facts which make Kraus guilty for things that go beyond 364 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: even the idea of fixing fights. I mean, he admitted 365 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: to Ariel that yes, I bet on fights that I coaching. Like, 366 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: that's right, there's no speculation there, so is well, how 367 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: do you how do you view now his interview like 368 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: this is the smoking gun, right, this. 369 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 2: Is the again, and we go back to like they 370 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: want to make an example out of him, not just 371 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: for the reason that you cited, which was like they 372 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: want to stamp this out. They want to like show 373 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: like the what the force can look like so no 374 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: one else even gets an inkling of it. On top 375 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: of that, dude, he was bragging in that interview. He 376 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: was bragging, like he was kind of boasting about how 377 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: well he was doing for that reason alone, aside from 378 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: everything you mentioned. Of course, that's going to play a 379 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: role as well. They're going to hammer him. But b see, 380 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: I will say something, part of the reason why I 381 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: think he did it was because I think he probably 382 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: I'm assuming he didn't know the totality of the law, 383 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: and so part of this is. 384 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: The well it was legal. You do have to you 385 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: do have to mention that until you have to change 386 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: that specific law. 387 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: Most of what he was acting as an agent, acting 388 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: as an agent for again allegedly acting as a legal 389 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: or offshore booking. If he did that, and was he 390 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: was using Venmo or whatever for accepting the returning pain, 391 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: this is all fraud. I mean, that's just all fraud 392 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: like by definition. But I want to point out something. 393 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: They mentioned this in the story quote. Krause also appeared 394 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: as an analyst on a UFC Best Bet show for 395 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: ESPN on YouTube in twenty twenty one. I kind of 396 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 2: just feel like what my understanding of I'm talking to 397 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: a few folks about this story was that there's a 398 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: lot of people who kind of do what Kraus does 399 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: at a very small level, right, not a very detectable level. 400 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: They kind of take us a couple of small bets here, 401 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: you know, they get a little bit on the back 402 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: end with these agents, and it never really gets to 403 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: the point where it gets flagged or the authorities really 404 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: notice it. It's crime, but it's a fairly low level 405 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: crime that the government just doesn't want to necessarily seek out. 406 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: If it doesn't have to this like for him, he 407 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: just was kind of doing everything in the open. Was 408 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: still part of like the firmament of the establishment, where 409 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: he was on a UFC programming on betting in sports. 410 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: Just now it's twenty twenty three, but basically a little 411 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: over a year and some change ago I can understan 412 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: where he thought, well, what's the big deal, I'm basically 413 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: doing this out in the open. The problem was, again, 414 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 2: according to the article, it wasn't just that he was 415 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: running this discord. It wasn't just that there's these issues 416 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: around the bidding of the Derek Minner fight. It's also 417 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: that he may have been again alleged to have been 418 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: acting in this capacity as an agent, which in order 419 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 2: to do that job that in the way that is required, 420 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: basically requires you to commit a bunch of crimes. It's crazy. 421 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: It's fucking crazy, dude. 422 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we said it from the moment this 423 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: first became news, before we even knew the true ramifications, 424 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: that like exactly they're gonna drop the hammer of the 425 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: bomb on him, He's going to be shoeless. Joe Jackson 426 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: and Pete Rose, you know, tied together that the ultimate 427 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: example is going to be made out of him. But 428 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: to hear all these further details of how much this was. 429 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't just you know, a hobby that made him 430 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: good money, like this was an organized crime. I guess 431 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: you could say in a lot of ways, you know, 432 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: well organized. But yeah, again, Luke, I can't get past this. 433 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: He outed himself, so did this whole investigation. And obviously 434 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: that Minr fight November fifth, Dereck Minner against the guy 435 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: whose name I'm gonna so I'm not even gonna say it, 436 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: that whole thing, Luke. And by the way, Minner's commented, 437 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: like I said, to this ESPN story and really tried 438 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: to cover up the whole idea about the injury, and 439 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: it just it comes across largely as comical in terms 440 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: of how he actually tried to defend himself. But give 441 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: him the benefit of the doubt. Let's see how that 442 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: holds up. But Luke, like he outed himself. So maybe 443 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: the Minror fight brought it to another level. But do 444 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: you think there was already law enforcement investigations going around 445 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: after this aerial interview? 446 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: Yes, And I got to tell you, I don't think 447 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 2: that's the only law enforcement investigation going around now as 448 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: it relates to betting, It's hard to know. But for example, 449 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: like we there was the New York Times. We don't 450 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: know if we talked about it much on the show, 451 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit. There was a recent New York 452 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 2: Times report about how the State Department had officially acknowledged 453 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: they were paying attention to what Chechen fighters who are 454 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: associated Ramzan Khadirov are doing trying to make it this way, 455 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: and how it affected like Maxine Grisham's ability to get 456 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: a visa to come here, and it could affect others. 457 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 2: They didn't comment on anything else related to any activity 458 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: to cader Off. I have to tell you, I bet 459 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: I don't know why that's happening. So yeah, okay, let 460 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: maybe very clear about this. I have no idea why 461 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: they omitted the other part of it, but I have 462 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: a feeling it's because there's an active criminal investigation going 463 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: on with this shit. White collar crimes typically take a 464 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: much longer time to prove versus a crime of like 465 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: you know, we got a guy on murder holding someone 466 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: up for a carjacking or something like that. That's actually 467 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: fairly easy to prove relatively speaking to something else where 468 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: you have to get all the paper trails, you have 469 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 2: to piece it all together, you have to perform by 470 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: the way like this is again, this could be, dude, 471 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: This could be like a racketeering case, like a Rico case, 472 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 2: which is I mean, all kinds of bad news for 473 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 2: you long term and what it will mean for an 474 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: eventual prison sentence, and how easy they can put a 475 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: case together, not just about James Cross, but to your point, 476 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: about all the other satellite players involved, certainly the ones 477 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 2: in the United States. So I just feel like, I 478 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: feel like this industry has been acting kind of recklessly 479 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: in a lot of different ways, acting with people that 480 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: they should not be acting with, engaging with folks they 481 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: should not be engaging with, engaging in behaviors they should 482 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: not be engaging with. And media outrage isn't gonna do anything. 483 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: UFC certainly isn't gonna do dejection about it beyond just 484 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 2: what they put in the code of conduct, which was, 485 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: you know, more cuvery rass than anything else. But I'd say, 486 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 2: what it turns out, law enforcement cares and the wheels 487 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: of justice grind slowly, but boy do they grind. So 488 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 2: I feel like there's gonna be a few people who 489 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: might have some hammers coming down on him on Twitter. 490 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: No doubt about it. And it's like with Kraus being 491 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: an illegal bookmaker is illegal, But it's like I because 492 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 1: Benning in general is is legal. I think a lot 493 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: of people look at that and go, Okay, it's illegal. 494 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's tax free, it's all that. But like, 495 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 1: I don't look at him per se as a you know, 496 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: bad person. But when you add in the idea that 497 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: like again he bragged down a national show that he 498 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: bet on fights he coached. In that whole other chapter, 499 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: Luke about the potential of fight fixing, which is why 500 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: UFC needed these hard core Earn Jericho size wall limitations 501 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: of who and who cannot be associated with gambling. Like 502 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: that's another level, dude, And I don't you know, maybe 503 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: that's the long term investigation that you're sort of referencing, 504 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: and maybe that's the big hope in the end, is 505 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: they crack that And is there you know, more shadowy 506 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: activity on people taking falls than we ever could imagine, 507 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: or do you just want to eliminate the future threat 508 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: of that? Either way, it's juicy there, but dude, you're 509 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: not going to come back from that, the latter part, 510 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: the whole idea of you know, potentially being involved in 511 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: fight fixing, Like you know, look, look he's never gonna 512 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: step you know, he's never going to work again at 513 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: all in this industry unless it's you know, I mean 514 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: like they like, damn dude, damn and you know in 515 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: UFC is allowed in a lot of ways to go. Okay, 516 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: let's investigate this, let's let's let's hammer out whoever did 517 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 1: it so we can distance ourselves. We've got a three 518 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars million, three hundred and fifty million 519 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: dollars deal with DraftKings like it. You know, we got 520 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: to keep that that integrity intact. But like this is 521 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: monster dude on a lot of levels, and and there's 522 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: no way Cross doesn't get just I mean, look like 523 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: we're not going to see him again that level. Okay. 524 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like what he was, I mean, his life turned 525 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 2: on a dime. You know, he was on these not 526 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: just betting shows. I remember they're using coach safe Saoud, 527 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: but prior to him, Brendan Fitzgerald and James Krause were 528 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: doing those like previews. I think, in fact, if I'm 529 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: not mistaken, I believe James Krause did like the fight 530 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: breakdown preview for UFC on their YouTube channel, and these 531 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: videos do well. They get like hundreds of thousands of 532 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: views for the Nate Diaz at the time, Nate Diaz 533 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: hamzat Chimaya fight. Obviously we don't fell apart, but you know, 534 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: before it all did, he was brought in to do that. 535 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: Like he was part of the established firmament of everyone. 536 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: He was part of the you know, great coaches of 537 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: the sport did He was like really a pioneer in 538 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: Kansas City MMA and like raised it to a new 539 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: level and made it, frankly a global destination for elite fighters. 540 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: He did a lot of great things. It's not like 541 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: he didn't. People are very complex in that way. But 542 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: Lord have mercy, he made a justin I mean incredible 543 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: series of bad judgment. And I do wonder too something BC. 544 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: It's like there was something brought up in it and 545 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: I hate to like distill every issue down to it, 546 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: but it just makes me wonder a little bit because listen, 547 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: the NBA had the Tim Donahey betting scandal. It's not 548 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: like any other sport is necessarily immune from this you 549 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: brought up Pete Rose, like, you know, this does tend 550 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 2: to happen no matter what. But like he was pointing 551 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: out the way in which that they were betting was 552 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: drawing them far more income in the article anyway, allegedly 553 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: than any of the fights they were, like any of 554 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: the fight perses, And like how easy it was to 555 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 2: recruit some of these guys because basically, like if you're 556 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: making ten and ten or fourteen and fourteen, and if 557 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: you lose, you get hardly any of that. The betting 558 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: was the way that they made their money. Is there 559 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: anything to be said that, like if the UFC had 560 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: to like double pay overnight, I think it's naive to 561 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: assume that like illegal betting would go away. But here's 562 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: my question to you. Do you think you would make 563 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 2: a difference in these kind of other activities, Like would 564 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: would a substantial increase in pay actually meaningfully reduce fighters 565 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: resorting to behavior like this in order to supplement their income. 566 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: Yes, you do believe even if even if you could 567 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: show me where the statistics don't back that up in 568 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: a long, you know, studied period of time, I still 569 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: say yes, because that's the direction the athletes deserve. Anyway, 570 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: and what's the best way. Like, look, I don't I 571 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: don't know how athletes do this, athletes that are involved 572 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: in combat sports or high violent high you know, high 573 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: level for violent sports, NFL, maybe NHL in certain cases, 574 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: Like I don't know how you just turn that off 575 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: and then suddenly go around your daily life and try 576 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: to make good sound decisions. Right, but you add in financial, 577 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: like legitimate financial you know, strain to just you know, 578 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean, how many horror stories do we hear of 579 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: people who like have to sell, like you know, just 580 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: Chondrage as a title contenter selling autographed you know, artifacts 581 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: of her old fights and stuff just to be able 582 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: to afford training camp. Like it's going to remove just 583 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: that that pure desperation that that I think in a 584 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: lot of cases would would would you know, set the 585 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: stage for somebody to want to kind of get into 586 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: this which is illegal. But you know, like I said, 587 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: gambling is legal. You know, I could see where people 588 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: could walk into it and go, okay, you know this, 589 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: this is this is fine. You know, this is how 590 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm offsetting my income, This is how I'm you know, yeah, 591 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: you dude, you got to clean that up. That's why 592 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: Across or whoever else. You're never gonna hear from them again, 593 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: because UFC needs this to go away, and they need 594 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: to go away now. And I think in the long run, Luke, 595 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: UFC will be better for having experienced this and put 596 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: in the stern you know, fences up now to try 597 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: to keep it away. I think they were largely naive 598 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: to all that. I mean, but look, they do, as 599 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: we're finding out through a few different recent scandals and 600 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: and you know, unresolved issues still kind of operate on 601 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: a on a very naive, overall immature business level. Maybe 602 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: you can you can carve that under Maverick and you know, 603 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: we don't give a fuck, and we're pushing, we're kicking 604 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: doors in. But it's their fault that this thing kind 605 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: of showed up on their doorstep. But they do have 606 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: a chance now to end this. 607 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: Moving forward, we're gonna see what happens. This is gonna 608 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: be interesting. You know, I've dealt with I think I 609 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: said this on the story. I've dealt with Jamescross a 610 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 2: couple of times. In fact, he asked me to host 611 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: his betting podcast, which I said no to. Yes, Parlays 612 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: and Pans, and I think this was roughly I don't 613 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: even know how long ago. This was a year or more, 614 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: maybe less, something like that. It's hard. I can't keep 615 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: track of time anymore. We you and I have had 616 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: that conversation and I just post COVID. 617 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: Is one year. The post covid our lives have been 618 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: one year long. There's no other It's just like it's weird. 619 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, so yeah, it's a little weird. But anyway, 620 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: long story short, he's a nice guy. I don't I don't. 621 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's 622 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: just a really irresponsible guy. You can argue a little 623 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: bit greedy and dude, he got out over in front 624 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: of his skis and again we'll see what happens. But 625 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: it looks bad. 626 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: Well, I think to the point we were just making 627 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: is like there is a defense in their overall about well, 628 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: they're so underpaid, you know, what else are they going 629 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: to do that? You know? I mean, the UFC really 630 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: does have to bridge that gap and clean that up. 631 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like. The more we read the john 632 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: S Nashes of the World and that other video I 633 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: keep reference and that was really good on the James 634 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: crouds situation of like it behooves day on company for 635 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: endeavor's purposes, you know, above and beyond to keep that 636 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: as low as possible, to keep the EBI TA bullshit 637 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: down on all that, Luke, But damn dude, the one 638 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: thing the UFC can do to to help the sport 639 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: moving forward, like you said, is just b bridge that 640 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: gap better. And I mean, do you want it? It's like, 641 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: do you want to be known as that major successful 642 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: business promotion that also the reputation is that you take 643 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: advantage of your fighters, you know what I'm saying. Look 644 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: like that's such a shitty reputation. I get that there's 645 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: a bottom line reason for financially that they do it, 646 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: but like that's such a shitty reputation. And now you've 647 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: got a couple of scandals going on right here for 648 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: the UFC in general that aren't related and may not 649 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: lead to some big downfall, but like maybe you should 650 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: come out and start doing some like some good pr 651 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: here and let's and let let's go in this out. 652 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: You had written basically about this, like you know, like 653 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: let's be real about this. During the early to middle 654 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: stages of the pandemic, UFC was on fire, right, they 655 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: were on fire. They were The product was hot, and 656 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: we've all been over the reasons why it was hot, 657 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: but it was hot, like there's nothing about it, and 658 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: it cooled off a little bit. This past year, I 659 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: think again we had a conversation like, how good was 660 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: the UFC product of twenty twenty two? Not its best version, 661 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: but not a bad version by any stretch. I mean 662 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: there was parts that were good, parts that were bad. 663 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: Overall it was pretty good. But I think what you 664 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: had sort of spotlight of b S and I thought 665 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: it was really sharp. Piece. One of the sharper pieces 666 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: that you've written was about like this business is like 667 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: it's come a long way. I mean, look at how 668 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: much growth there has been in terms of its popularity 669 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: and also just them buttoning themselves up. But they still 670 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: got some work to do over there in Las Vegas. 671 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: They really do. Now they're trying to get ahead of 672 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: this as best they could. They were relate to it, 673 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: but not too late. They weren't as late as they 674 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: could have been. They were a little bit earlier. But 675 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: now they've got this whole Dana White thing going on. 676 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: You're talking about like this issue related to fighter pay. 677 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: They're just just a lot of things that are dragging 678 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: at least the image of a bare minimum of the 679 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: business down, that are a function of part of that 680 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: strategy they've had where been like, well, we've done it 681 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: this way this whole time, why would we change now. 682 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: It's like it's because like congratulations, Like they built themselves 683 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: up to a level where you do have to make 684 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: some of those changes to really occupy this space without 685 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: any controversy or larger issue. They're in those growing pains, 686 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: and I think we should all understand that. But yeah, man, 687 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: like twenty twenty three is a year where I think, 688 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: for as hot as twenty twenty twenty twenty one might 689 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: have been for them, this might be a bit of 690 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: another cool down year. We'll have to see how things 691 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: go at least related to these other parts, not so 692 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: much a function of the fights. 693 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: Right, Like the same hubris that UFC showed when ZUFA 694 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: was still in charge around the time of the First 695 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: Ultimate Fight to write like that stretch where it was 696 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: just like bite down or run out of money, we're 697 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: gonna we might throw on the top. We don't want to, 698 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: but like let's just fight and keep it alive. Some 699 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: of that spirit came out again for Day nine, twenty twenty, 700 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: and you know, some for worse, but largely for better. 701 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: They've came the darlings right like all that stuff we 702 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: talk about. But you can't, you know, you can't be 703 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: at that same speed all the time. As time changes, 704 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: as as you know, decency changes, as a lot of 705 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: things change. You can't. You know, you can operate like 706 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: that when you're when you're on Spike TV, you know 707 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. You can't do that now. So look, 708 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: if I am James Cross's defense team, and maybe because 709 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of episodes of Bowl lately, so 710 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm you know, thinking for like, I've got a two 711 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: dollars law degree education now, But wouldn't they go all 712 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: in on the the system so broken they are pushing 713 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: fighters to do stuff like this because they don't take 714 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: care of us. Isn't that the strategy to try to 715 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: get leniency legal legally speed? 716 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 2: Because yeah, I mean for maybe some of the smaller players, 717 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's gonna work for Cross. 718 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: I really don't. You know, he has investment properties. I 719 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: think he still owns. I guess he had a split 720 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: from his spouse at the time, and he took most 721 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: of the properties. I believe by the way, he still 722 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: owns the Glory property itself. From a real estate perspective, 723 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: you know, maybe he's trying to sell that. I don't know. 724 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: So he's got more independent wealth than some of the 725 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: other guys. I mean, for Jeff Malino, whatever he has 726 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: done or not done, I don't know. That might if 727 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: he has done something wrong, that might work for someone 728 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 2: like that. But for Cross, don't think it's gonna work. 729 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: I really don't. 730 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: Well, Luke, Cross's immediate removal in the ban of anyone, 731 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, extendedly touching him from it plays out on 732 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: a larger level for the biggest names, and that's Brandon Moreno, 733 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: the interim flyweight champion, trying to get his belt back 734 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: in the fourth meeting with Figaredo coming up around the corner. 735 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: He talked with Ariel Hawani this week about you know, 736 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: the difficulties of now just uprooting everything and leaving Kansas 737 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: City and changing. But he did pick up a saut 738 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: around the along the way, So, Luke, how how tough 739 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: is this gonna be? The for the fighters? And in 740 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: Moreno's particular case because he's the biggest name and he's 741 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: got his biggest opportunity coming up. Like, how freaking big 742 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: is this? For everyone that came up in that gym 743 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: that was very well respected. 744 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: It's gonna be extremely difficult. Like James Cross is a 745 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 2: great coach. He's a great coach. Can't say he's not. 746 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: He is. As we mentioned in it, you know, he 747 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: had bought that gym from someone else, rebranded it and 748 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: made it much more of a global destination for the 749 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: very premier talent of the sport than anyone else prior 750 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 2: to that point. Had he did that. I'm not gonna 751 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 2: say single handedly. It takes a team to do that, 752 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 2: but he was certainly the driving force behind it. I 753 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: don't think that's much in dispute, and he was sought 754 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: after for his services. You can go to other high 755 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 2: level coaches, but are you gonna click with them the 756 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,959 Speaker 2: same way? Do they understand your needs the same way? 757 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 2: Can they game plan the same way? Strong coaches all 758 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 2: have different strengths than weaknesses. They're not all just they 759 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: can all do the exact same things, or they're copycut 760 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: cats of the other ones. It doesn't work that way, 761 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 2: they are all they Yes, they are all obviously very 762 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 2: talented and have their own method of success, but that 763 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 2: method can be widely different from everyone else. Now safe 764 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: Soud is a great coach. You could do a lot 765 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: worse than dealing with him. So I think Moreno is 766 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: in pretty good hands, in great hands. But like you know, 767 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: all of these things are individual relationships. What is the 768 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 2: individual relationship between Moreno and Saou? Do they trust each other? 769 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: How well do they know each other? Do they how 770 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 2: well do they understand each other's needs and click? I mean, 771 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: these are all very very difficult things. So I think 772 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: you know, listen, if you're an early to mid tier 773 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 2: guy in the UFC and you go to another great coach. 774 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: Not to say that that won't have an effect, It 775 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 2: could have a great effect, But in general, I think 776 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 2: you're gonna be okay. It's the actually the super elite ones, 777 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: even though they are super elite, they require a very specific, 778 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: very difficult thing to get to make that all work. 779 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: I just it's it's tough. It's we're gonna see man 780 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 2: like Figuredo, you know, being in Brazil having to take 781 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 2: on Moreno again with all of that distraction that Moreno's 782 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: had to go through. That is not That is far 783 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: from what you would want for world class camp, for 784 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 2: the biggest fight of your career to this point, you 785 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 2: would want the exact fucking opposite. So it is tough sledding. 786 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: We got a lot more on this great show. But 787 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: final question on this is because I'm curious in your opinion, Luke, 788 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: we don't have the facts. The investigations continue, but that 789 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: Derek Minner fight, Like how much? How deep did that 790 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: actually go? In your opinion? Like, give me your JFK. 791 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: You know who did it, Luke? Like how improprined? Is 792 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: there a Can I use it impropriety as a verb? 793 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: Can I use it as a verb? 794 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 2: Luke? 795 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: How improp How improper? Luke? How deep does it? Did 796 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: it actually go? In your eyes? Was it just a 797 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: guy was injured, he knew it. He felt like this 798 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: is the only way to get to pay for the surgery. 799 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna come in injured. Dell show did 800 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: the same thing. Is it just that, Luke? Or is 801 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: it a lot deeper? 802 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 2: I think it'd be irresponsible to speculate beyond what has 803 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 2: been reported on this show, But I guess I would 804 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 2: say this in general, my posture is, and this isn't 805 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 2: true for our I would say, this doesn't merely apply 806 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: to this situation, but this is how I approach things 807 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 2: in general. Never ascribe to mendacity things that can be 808 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 2: more adequately and easily explainable by negligence or stupidity. And 809 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: it just seems to me there's a shit ton of 810 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 2: negligence and stupidity in this situation, in a lot of 811 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: different parties, in a lot of different directions. Whether they 812 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 2: added mendacity on top of it by by basically throwing fights, 813 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: I you know, who the hell knows I would We 814 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: just have to wait and see. But even with even 815 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 2: if that's not part of it, everything else is just 816 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 2: so so so outrageously irresponsible and frankly like greedy. You know, 817 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 2: I understand, like for the Jeff Molinas of the world, 818 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 2: whatever he did or didn't do, that's one thing. But 819 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 2: for Kraus, I you know, the sport doesn't pay what 820 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: it should, you know, and I understand that. But going 821 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 2: to the alleged length that he went to to get 822 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 2: paid is so manifestly greedy that he's gonna have to 823 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: pay the piper. 824 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: That's just I feel like, whether you're a minner or 825 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: anybody else, even if you didn't do the really egregious things, 826 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: I think just being tied to this year gonna get 827 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: the hammer dropped on you, you know what I mean, 828 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: for better or for worse. 829 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: But you have to wonder how much those guys again, 830 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: assuming that they've all engaged in illegal behavior. We don't 831 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 2: know that. Let's assume that they did. Dude, those guys 832 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 2: are gonna flip. They're gonna flip. They're gonna flip hard. 833 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 2: So we'll see who they get in the whole thing. 834 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: But dude, it's all bad. It's all bad news. I mean, 835 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 2: can you imagine this at the beginning of last year 836 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 2: that dude was riding so high. In one year's time, 837 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: his life has completely transformed, and not for the better. 838 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 2: Careful what you're doing out there, folks, it is you 839 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 2: fought the law. The law wins. 840 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: This was basically the potential plot line for Ozark season six. 841 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: Now I know the show is uh is guys retired, 842 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 1: but I mean, this. 843 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 2: Is you know what like we like there's I mean, 844 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: it's kind of funny. It's a very very, very different thing. 845 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 2: But I was thinking about this too, like Lightning, Lightning, 846 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: Lee Murray. You know, uh, dude, I remember when Lee Murray, Dude, 847 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: I remember him fighting Anderson Silva in cage rage. I 848 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 2: remember him fighting I think it was uh Jorge Rivera 849 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 2: in UFC. Do I remember this? I remember Lightning Lee 850 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 2: Murray as an active UFC fighter. I remember those days 851 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 2: very clearly. And then you don't hear from him for 852 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: a little while, and then all of a sudden, he's 853 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 2: part of the biggest bank robbery in fucking human history, 854 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: and now he's in some Moroccan jail because it didn't 855 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: go right obviously, you know, like every every like fifteen years. Again, 856 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: we don't know what happened with James Kraus, but allegedly 857 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 2: it seems like every fifteen years one of these guys 858 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 2: loses their fucking mind in some kind of attempt to 859 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: go and get money that they, you know, otherwise are 860 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: not entitled to. And why absolutely bonker shit happen. 861 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: Weapons It's absolutely wild, So one huge story, and I 862 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: do want to tip my cap to ESPN, who have 863 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: been sort of ahead of the game and covering this, 864 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: which is not the reputation though it has. For our 865 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: second topic, Luke, the Dana White situation was just not 866 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: going away because of you know, I want to shout 867 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: out Jamel Hill had a great piece out there was 868 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, more sites started to step in. We even 869 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: saw on the entertainment side of journalism people were taking 870 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: shots at Endeavor for being so silent on it. Well, 871 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: Endeavors still silent on it, and so is ESPN for 872 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,720 Speaker 1: the largely, although they did respond to what happened. Late Wednesday, 873 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: Dana White sat down with the media for what is 874 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: typically the UFC Fight Night media day, and of course 875 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: card goes down this Saturday night in Las Vegas at 876 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: the Apex, and Dana did about fourteen straight minutes of 877 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: answering questions from the media. There was a lot to 878 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 1: criticize from this, but I want to start quickly, Luke, 879 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: with what I liked about it, which was finally, at 880 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: least a morsel of what we were asking for everyone 881 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: in this larger situation, just like honesty, transparency, you know, 882 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: like be an adult about it, right, like accountability, all 883 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: that stuff. Look, I think for you know, Dana was 884 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: largely at least in tone and was humble, largely humble 885 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: in this and it was good to see him own it, 886 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: and obviously it was good to see him come out 887 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: and actually have to tell the legion following him, like, no, 888 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: stop supporting me on this. I was wrong, Like you 889 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: know that. I mean, that's just mind boggling. But there's 890 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: a lot to criticize here, and I want to play 891 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: probably the biggest sound that came out of this, and 892 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,919 Speaker 1: then I want to get your reaction to this, Luke. 893 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: So here is Dana during this scrum. I believe you 894 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: can hear the question from John Morgan being set up 895 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: to him. 896 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 2: Are there any repercussions plan from the company or self 897 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 2: imposed repercussions? 898 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 3: I mean, what should the repercussions bit? You tell me 899 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 3: I take thirty days off? How does that hurt me? 900 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I told you guys when we were going 901 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 3: through COVID COVID in the last ten years, I could 902 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 3: set it out and you know what, I mean, what 903 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 3: would be the problem? The only it's much like COVID. Actually, 904 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 3: you know, me leaving hurts the company, hurts my employees, 905 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 3: hurts the fighters. Doesn't hurt me. I could have left 906 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen. Do I need to reflect? No? I 907 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 3: don't need to reflect We've had plenty of discussions internally 908 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 3: with Ari ESPN. Nobody's happy. Nobody's happy about this. You know, 909 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 3: neither am I. But it happened, and I have to 910 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 3: deal with it, and what is my punishment. Here's my punishment. 911 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 3: I gotta walk around for however long I live as 912 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 3: a ten point four years or is it another twenty 913 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 3: five years? And I gotta this is how I'm labeled now. 914 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 3: My other punishment is that, you know, I'm sure a 915 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 3: lot of people, whether it be media, fighters, friends, acquaintances, 916 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 3: who had respect for me, might not have respect for 917 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 3: me now. I mean, there's a lot of things that 918 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to deal with for the rest of 919 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 3: my life that are way more of a punishment than 920 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 3: what I take. A thirty day sixty day absence. That's 921 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 3: not a punishment to me. The punishment is that I did. 922 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: Luke. He's gonna wear that Sarlet letter as his punishment. 923 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: Can you imagine at any point in your life where 924 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 2: you've ever gotten in trouble for anything, tried to float 925 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 2: that argument and not being laughed out of the room. 926 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 2: It's just wow. 927 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: So I started Luke with the parts I liked about it, 928 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 1: which is finally somebody sitting down, welcoming questions, having a discussion, 929 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: and for as much as Dana can do, he was humble. 930 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: But that's a very hot piece of audio that was 931 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: just edited together there of Dana's comments about basically what 932 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: people seem to be upset about the most that if 933 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: you want to play the angle here, the Dana white privilege, 934 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: it's strong right now, and whether that privilege does break 935 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: down more racially or just largely in terms of what 936 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: you argue the other day about people in power are 937 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: able to uh get away with things. We are now 938 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: seeing a bunch of pro athletes in different sports like 939 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 1: speak out against this on social media like this is 940 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: not going away at all. And ESPN's finally reporting on 941 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 1: Dana's you know, uh quotes because he because he finally 942 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 1: spoke again, but nobody else is speaking. How do you 943 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: begin to pick apart that that a you know, president 944 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: of a you know, a billion dollar publicly traded company 945 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: just had to come out and you know, be the 946 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: adult voice or reason was like, don't worry. Don't worry, guys. 947 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: You know I'm the one that that's that's hurting here. 948 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: That's enough. Let's move on. 949 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 2: It's just, I mean, the height of arrogance. Really, I 950 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 2: will give Dana credit for one thing that I do 951 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: think is very important. He came out and early into 952 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 2: the press conference said, you know, unequivocally what I did 953 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 2: was wrong, and I have seen people defend me. Stop 954 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 2: doing that. You know there is no defense for it, 955 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 2: just except that there is criticism, and he accepts it 956 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: like that needed to be said out loud. And it's 957 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 2: funny to me every time that there's some kind of 958 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 2: controversy in MMA, people always want to pretend something never happened. 959 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 2: I had people in my mentions being like, I haven't 960 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 2: even seen anyone defend him. It's like, dude, let me 961 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 2: get this straight. Dana had to take a moment to 962 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: step back to make sure people stop defending him within 963 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 2: the industry really just in general, but certainly within the industry, 964 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 2: and now it never happened before it stopped fucking lying guy. 965 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 2: I mean, people, you can have whatever argument you want 966 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 2: to have right, whatever thing you would like to argue on, 967 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 2: behalf of or against, you are entitled to do that. 968 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 2: But what you cannot do is make up shit. In 969 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 2: order to make that argument work, you have to acknowledge 970 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 2: what the facts are and either that backs up your 971 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 2: position or you need to change your position. It really 972 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 2: is as simple as that, So please just to begin 973 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 2: do that. And I really appreciated that he did that, 974 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 2: and I appreciated that he went and spoke to the media, 975 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,919 Speaker 2: as you know, I think he was telling the truth 976 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: as best he sees it. I don't think he would. 977 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's as humble as he can be. Look that 978 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: like that, like there was some pure and genuine humility 979 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: within that, but it does miss the larger lack of 980 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: self awareness and just like, like, I mean, the arrogance 981 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: in me not getting punished is the best way to 982 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: not punish you. That's basically what he's telling the camera. 983 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: Like you UFC fans, you know, the reason why I 984 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: don't need a punishment is because you know, we're suffering 985 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: as a family and they should be. That's you know, 986 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: this is you know, I mean, he gave important details 987 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: about his family, like they're going to stay together in 988 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: the marriage. The kids are upset, Like we didn't even 989 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: need to hear that that is their business, but he 990 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: did humbly share that they're actually working through it. They're 991 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,280 Speaker 1: not just elite cyborg robots. This is a real family, 992 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: real people going through some hard stuff. But I mean, 993 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: the the arrogance and then yes, the privilege of acting 994 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: like no, this actually is is the best way. 995 00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 2: I mean, but it raises too it raises too big topics. Right, 996 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 2: So we give dad to the credit for the good part, 997 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 2: which I do think is legitimately good. And I do 998 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 2: legitimately and I mean this, I give him credit for 999 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 2: the parts that I really admired. I thought he did well. Okay, 1000 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 2: But to the point that you raised about this, like, well, 1001 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 2: what should the punishment be? It's like, dude, there's two 1002 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 2: things that come to mind here. Number one, and I've 1003 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 2: said this on my personal podcast, I've said it on 1004 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 2: this show. I'm going to repeat it one more time. 1005 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: It is very, very very difficult in this country for 1006 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 2: rich people and or powerful people to actually face consequences. 1007 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 2: We do not do a good job of punishing rich 1008 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 2: or powerful people here. Obviously you can find exceptions here 1009 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 2: or there, usually for crimes or I should say, misdeeds 1010 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 2: whatever you want to say, far greater than anything data 1011 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 2: has done, Which is not to minimize it. I just 1012 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 2: mean it takes a vast amount of bad faith behavior 1013 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 2: and or outright law breaking before anything ever happens with 1014 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 2: these people. And I mean, just look around. He has 1015 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 2: these media allies and Stephen A. Smith and Molly care 1016 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 2: I'm carrying water for him TMZ, cluing him into the 1017 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 2: fact that this was coming, so that when the news 1018 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 2: came out, his response to it would be built into 1019 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 2: the new story and the headline was soft pedaled. There 1020 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 2: was silence from our em Manuel. But he has spoken 1021 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 2: out about and rightly I think, spoken out about anti 1022 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 2: Semitism previously. I mean, he just has billionaire friends, media allies. 1023 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 2: These are things that you and I simply do not 1024 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 2: have access to. And what does it do. It protects him. 1025 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 2: Powerful people use their leverage and their resources to protect themselves. 1026 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 2: You're watching it here, You're just you're literally watching it here. 1027 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 2: Everyone wants to make Dana the guy who would show 1028 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 2: up on their couch if he wasn't so busy. He 1029 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 2: was that guy at one time. He is no longer 1030 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 2: that guy. He is now someone who leverages extraordinary wealth 1031 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 2: and connection and power to basically absolve himself from any 1032 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 2: responsibility beyond what he sees as reasonable. That is something 1033 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,800 Speaker 2: that only exists among the very very very very elite 1034 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 2: and nobody else in age. 1035 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: I mean seriously, just for modern political correctness, for the 1036 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: way that you know society today, which there's some lot, 1037 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 1: certainly some some fall and bad parts about how hyper 1038 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: sensitive and critical we are and cancel culture and all that. 1039 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 1: But like in this modern culture, how like they could 1040 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: still be rolling you know, TBS and and Dana White 1041 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: can still be rolling out the slap league like like 1042 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, Dan Dana said at the press conference on Wednesday, 1043 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: Dana said, like, you know, there is there irony here 1044 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: and putting out a slap league. You know, a couple 1045 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: weeks after he was caught on tape, you know, exchanging 1046 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: slabs with his wife, and he was like, you know, yeah, 1047 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 1: it's ironic, but you know, there's never a good time 1048 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: to have a bad moment. It's like damn, Like like 1049 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: the people in play just don't get it or they 1050 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: just don't care. And while we could get caught in 1051 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: the black cloud of debating like which one it is 1052 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: because they both both of it sucks. I think for 1053 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: what we saw by Dana, some of it they just 1054 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: don't get it, Luke, They just just don't get it 1055 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: because of a certain level of power or whatever. But 1056 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: I think what I am most upset about the end 1057 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,720 Speaker 1: of the day, not the fighter reaction, not the media reaction, 1058 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: nothing fan reaction, are Emmanuel and Endeavor because, like you said, 1059 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: to be so rightfully aggressively proactive under certain things and 1060 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: now to turn the blind eye. And you know that 1061 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: that chan that YouTube channel Mmai Luke that put out 1062 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: that great video about James Cross, but it's really about 1063 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: UFC financials in general. You know, they paint that actual 1064 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: accurate picture of how much Endeavor needs UFC to succeed 1065 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,359 Speaker 1: and how much they've completely turned themselves around and opened up. 1066 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean, like it's just it's a it's amazing how 1067 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: important UFC is to Endeavor. So they're not even going 1068 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: to say a thing about it. Yeah, I mean, just 1069 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 1: like it, Just like that is why this story won't 1070 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: go away. The main reason it shouldn't go away is 1071 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 1: the domestic side of it, in the in the image 1072 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: that that Dana gives, which with the platform he is 1073 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: responsible to uphold an image because there's so many people 1074 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: willing to, you know, follow him and bow down to 1075 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 1: him and say that's who I want to be. That guy. 1076 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,760 Speaker 1: So they're willing to just march, you know, in unison 1077 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: to his message. That's why, that's the main reason why 1078 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 1: this story shouldn't go away. But that doesn't matter. Money matters, Luke, 1079 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: So that at the end of the day, like emmanual 1080 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: silence is just so fucking snaky, right, It's just like damn. 1081 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah again, we didn't call for his job, but we 1082 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 2: thought Ari should come out and say something about it. 1083 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 2: He didn't even do that. He didn't even do that. 1084 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 2: This is the guy that from from the What's the 1085 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,959 Speaker 2: show they made HBO or his character was essentially based 1086 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 2: off of it entourage, the guy whould come in and 1087 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,280 Speaker 2: just dominate board meetings, that could do whatever he wants. 1088 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,280 Speaker 2: This is the guy who is cowered into silence. Okay, 1089 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 2: here's the other part about it too, BC, which is 1090 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,479 Speaker 2: he raises an interesting question with all of this, right, 1091 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 2: it would hurt the brand if I left, It would 1092 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 2: hurt the company if I left. Sure about that? I'm 1093 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 2: not so sure about that. Now. Let me be clear 1094 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 2: about something. Historically. I do think it's true that there 1095 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 2: was a time when Dana wy was around where yeah, man, 1096 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,439 Speaker 2: he was very essential to the business and I remember him, Dude, 1097 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 2: he took years off his life being an acolyte and 1098 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 2: trying to spread the news of MMA to any editorial 1099 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 2: board who would talk to him, any news outlet that 1100 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 2: would talk to him, any broadcast partner, in any climb 1101 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 2: in place all over the world. Dude, Dana did that, 1102 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 2: and he absolutely took years off of his life to 1103 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 2: make MMA, and of course the UFC bigger than it was. 1104 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 2: And that's real. And I don't know that MMA would 1105 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 2: have gotten as far without him pushing the sled like that. 1106 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 2: It was an Iditarod and he was the front husky 1107 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,959 Speaker 2: at the leading of the pack. Okay, that's a real thing. 1108 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 2: And I also believe today, however polarizing he may be, 1109 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,760 Speaker 2: I think that Dana is probably good for the brand 1110 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 2: and can do a lot of things. However, this is 1111 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 2: a billion dollar plus business. They could probably sell for 1112 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 2: double digit billions. They're pulling in a billion every year. 1113 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 2: Every year they're pulling in a billion. You mean to 1114 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 2: tell me you have scaled the product to being in 1115 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 2: nearly two hundred countries, not obviously not that many, but 1116 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 2: one hundred plus countries all over the world with contracted revenue. 1117 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 2: The way you have it with all of these broadcast deals. 1118 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 2: You couldn't find a bigger broadcast partner in the most 1119 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 2: and then the largest market in all of combat sports. 1120 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 2: If you tried the apex of it. You now control 1121 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 2: all your own pay per view revenue. You've done all 1122 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 2: of this, and that comes apart if one person is removed. 1123 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 2: That wasn't even true for Apple, which is a much 1124 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 2: much much bigger business by orders of magnitude bigger. It 1125 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 2: wasn't even true for Steve Jobs. It's not true for 1126 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 2: Bill Gates and Microsoft. It's not true for anyone. You 1127 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 2: can't have a business that has scaled this far and 1128 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 2: then try and convince people this would come apart at 1129 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 2: the seams if he's not there. I can admit there 1130 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 2: might be a short term, you know, uncertainty about the 1131 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 2: product because Dana has been such an integral part of it. 1132 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 2: But dude, that is just matter of factly not true. 1133 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 2: The UFC would survive without him, It would do well 1134 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 2: without him. I admit he has been absolutely instrumental to it. 1135 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 2: But what I think is really going on BC to 1136 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 2: pitch it back to you, is I think he realizes 1137 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 2: that if he did get removed and the product just 1138 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 2: kept moving. There would be some questions about his actual 1139 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 2: necessity here. To me, that's what he's trying to get 1140 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 2: in front of, not this idea that like, well what 1141 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 2: it would actually hurt the it would hurt the products. 1142 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 2: I don't buy that at all at all. 1143 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: No, they have to be a well oiled machine up 1144 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: to this, you know, to be you know, obviously his 1145 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 1: influence in his decision making on key things, you know, 1146 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,399 Speaker 1: removing him completely, yeah, I would have some questions moving 1147 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: forward on how the adjust in certain areas, especially since 1148 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 1: he's the face like you know when we say he's 1149 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: the face of UFC, Like that's calculated, and that's also true. 1150 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 1: Fighters come and go, wind streaks come and go. Like 1151 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: he's always there. And outside of the first interviews he 1152 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: ever did on camera for UFC when he did have hair, 1153 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: and you know, he was kind of bending over and 1154 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,360 Speaker 1: kind of you know, sheepish and afraid of the spotlight 1155 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: that he would come to dominate in the ensuing years, 1156 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 1: he's looked the same throughout the entire run. Like it's 1157 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: the same you know, bald head in in in you know, 1158 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: charismatic delivery and sort of he make I mean he 1159 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: does rally you, Luke, you know what I'm saying. He's 1160 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: a charismatic mf or and a brilliant one and the 1161 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: things he's great at. Losing him completely, I would have 1162 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: questions about. 1163 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,919 Speaker 2: You know, Hunter Hunter Campbell. I would argue this Hunter, 1164 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 2: he's not as important as a public face. But in 1165 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 2: terms of what makes the machinery run, you'd be right. 1166 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 2: You'd be worse off with Hunter Campbell going than Dana 1167 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 2: White at this. 1168 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: But I think from a PR standpoint, you know, the 1169 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: company not doing any of the company not forcing him. 1170 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: I know, it's like, who's going to force him? 1171 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 2: He's there? Is not actually believe the product would be 1172 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 2: damaged by his absence long No. 1173 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: I believe. I believe there would be an adjustment period 1174 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 1: because he has looked at to that, especially the casual 1175 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: fan who only comes in and out for the big fights. 1176 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: You know, he's, like you said, like the Santa Claus 1177 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,400 Speaker 1: of m m A like in that regard, you just 1178 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 1: remove him from that. I believe there's the adjustments, you know, 1179 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: big adjustments that would have to happen. But from a 1180 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 1: PR standpoint, Luke, like they kind of need him to 1181 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: take even if it's like, you know, self imposed and 1182 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 1: it's small, and it's just just for show, just for 1183 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: virtue signaling or whatever the people accuse us of Luke 1184 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: even if it's just for show, the fact that like 1185 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: they have to do that just for image, because there 1186 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: are pr reasons why he's no longer the perfect face 1187 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,919 Speaker 1: of this for them, and you do want to see 1188 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 1: those get adjusted. And I you know something that you've 1189 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 1: echoed before too, I do believe there's probably people on 1190 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: the inside that that probably believe he gets in the 1191 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 1: way in some certain key categories as well. So I mean, 1192 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I had multiple people that work behind 1193 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: that company like apologize that to me off, you know, 1194 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: off off to the side that I was part of 1195 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: that stupid formative video that we play a lot and 1196 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,879 Speaker 1: have jokes with. And you know I didn't need that. 1197 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: I appreciated that beyond belief. But like it shows that 1198 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 1: that uh you know there that that's not the message, 1199 00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 1: the data message that ultimately is proven, proven point fact. 1200 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: That's the best way they can sell with Dana as 1201 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: the pitchman. 1202 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I'll tell you I think that, but that message, dude, 1203 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 2: he doesn't have a ton of time left either now, 1204 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 2: maybe he'll live with this new quack he's got this 1205 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 2: complete fraud ten more years, twenty more years, twenty five 1206 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 2: more years, but his time will come anyway like that, 1207 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 2: No one's immortal. He has to go. And I just 1208 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 2: think it's very very much scare mongering to suggest that 1209 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 2: the product at this stage now again ten years ago, 1210 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 2: very different argument, but today, the way in which it 1211 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 2: has scaled, the way which contractual revenue is involved, and 1212 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 2: the people who are actually making that possible, virtually all 1213 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 2: of it would be in good hands. You know. 1214 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: The machine. Look, the machine is set up to achieve 1215 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about like I'm talking more at commercially, Luke, 1216 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking more in the brand power, all of that stuff. 1217 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 1: Short term, there would be an adjustment. 1218 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 2: Period, yeah, but I mean we're talking a few months, 1219 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 2: six months at most. I don't This is not the 1220 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 2: reason to not punish him. Is not because like, wow, 1221 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 2: if we really remove Dana, I mean it would really 1222 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 2: it would really impact the product. That's that's only true 1223 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 2: for a very very narrow time horizon. After that, I 1224 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 2: just do they have eighty to eighty five percent of 1225 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 2: the world's talent. They have very very good people running 1226 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 2: that organization. They have vast deals across the earth already 1227 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 2: sit in place, like it's built to win. It's a 1228 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 2: fucking monopoly. It's built to win. It can't be the 1229 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 2: case that it's built to win. And and in threat 1230 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 2: of being a monopoly based on you know, we'll see 1231 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 2: what happens with it, but it very easily could argue one. 1232 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 2: And also, this monopoly has to have this guy to succeed. No, Like, 1233 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 2: here's the thing here, this is the true story about 1234 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 2: the Fertida's about Dana White. Dude. They won, they won, 1235 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 2: they won, They won the industry. They beat all the 1236 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 2: other competition to the point where they're so successful it's 1237 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 2: hard to imagine anyone else ever rivaling them. It would 1238 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 2: require epic change, true government in enforcement, like it would 1239 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 2: require massive intervention. The idea that like one person, any 1240 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 2: one person, Dana Hunter, Campbell, Sean Shelby, you name it. 1241 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 2: The idea that any one person has to be there 1242 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 2: for that to be in place is just, matter of 1243 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 2: factly nonsensical. It doesn't even make any sense to say 1244 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,959 Speaker 2: something like that it's built to win. It already did. 1245 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 2: It's already got its hooks into the market. It would 1246 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 2: take a massive act of God to change that. 1247 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean it's certainly not. And it's so similar 1248 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 1: to this whole Vincric mandebaccle that's going on the same time, 1249 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: Like there are parallels there. It's just wild. But Vince 1250 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: got to a point where he was, you know, bad 1251 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: for the product in a lot of key ways. And 1252 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: when he did go away for a short period, and 1253 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: I've heard everybody say that, you know, creatively, the product 1254 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 1: just flourished again, and it was like, oh man, we've 1255 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 1: finally got him out of there. I just don't think 1256 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 1: Dana is there yet. I do think there's big impact, 1257 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: even if it's short term him stepping away. But I 1258 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 1: also think he should step away for all the reasons 1259 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 1: we just said. But wow, I just didn't think we'd 1260 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: open the year with this, with all everything else going on, 1261 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: the gambling, all that stuff going on. And and you 1262 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: do have to give this brand credit, Luke. They're they're 1263 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: back with a bang this weekend, and for better or worse, right, 1264 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean, like here we are Slap League right around 1265 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 1: the corner. 1266 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 2: Uh well, the fighters deserve to fight, right, I. 1267 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Mean absolutely, in the in the in the brand deserves 1268 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: to flourish and keep going. But it's just I've now, 1269 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't remember a time where it was just this 1270 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 1: much all at once, right, this much fight or pay 1271 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 1: everything like all at once. 1272 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Uh No, I will tell I think you're right that 1273 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 2: there are more issues all at once to your point, 1274 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 2: like competing at the same time. I will tell you 1275 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 2: that some of these felt bigger, like at a stage 1276 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 2: of the UFC's development when it wasn't nearly as far along, 1277 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 2: like when Kutre was suing to fight Fator on hd 1278 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 2: NET for Mark Cuban. A lot of you might may 1279 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 2: not remember that. I think it is right circle two 1280 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,439 Speaker 2: thousand and seven or so, and and that felt big, 1281 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 2: like taking the UFC the court, having these battles over 1282 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 2: fighter pay, like in the public, that felt like real 1283 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 2: huge at the time. This feels big. But this is 1284 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 2: the point, dude, UFC is so fucking big at this time. 1285 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 1: Dude, they one, they won. 1286 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree that all the things you have pointed out. Again, 1287 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 2: I thought that piece you wrote for CBS Sports was 1288 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 2: so smart. I echo all of it. But if we're 1289 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 2: asking like how it felt at the time, I gotta 1290 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 2: tell you tour taking them to court felt bigger a 1291 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 2: little bit, a little bit, whether or not it's actually 1292 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 2: bigger as a different. 1293 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Matter, absolutely, yeah, it's just it's it's exciting time. But 1294 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: maybe this true success story thirty years in is that 1295 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 1: we all believe even if Dana, you know, walked away 1296 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: for good tomorrow, they would keep being able to I mean, 1297 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 1: they're fighters. Look, they've built a foundation, they're fighters. They've 1298 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 1: they've done, they won, they won, like you said. 1299 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 2: Just last thing on this, just last thing. 1300 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 1: And I do think they can navigate this storm. I do. 1301 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 1: And that's the that's the strength, that's the that's a 1302 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 1: success story for everybody behind the scenes there right. 1303 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 2: Well, I know our audience is all bitter about this 1304 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 2: is just last thing on this serious question for you, 1305 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 2: serious question for the audience. For one moment, let's actually 1306 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 2: say that, against all of your wishes out there, Ari 1307 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 2: Emmanuel came down and was like, yeah, we're gonna relieve 1308 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 2: Dan of his duties. He's fired, he's gone, he's just 1309 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 2: gone tomorrow. Now, I'm not asking you to like that, 1310 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 2: but just ask yourself. 1311 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't like that. 1312 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 2: I don't like yeah, yah, yeah, no, No, I'm not 1313 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 2: here to say that that's something that should happen or 1314 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 2: you should applaud. But let's just imagine a world where 1315 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 2: it did happen right where he was just heavy handed, 1316 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 2: AH came down and then cut him off boom. How 1317 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 2: many of you would not watch UFC anymore? How many 1318 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 2: of you would not watch UFC in the way that 1319 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 2: you have watched it. I'm going to guess virtually none, 1320 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 2: virtually none. Like the game has a pull on you, 1321 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 2: as a pull on you has a pull on me, 1322 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 2: as a pull on BC that is iran, irrespective of 1323 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 2: some of the bigger faces around it. You might miss him. 1324 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 2: You might not like the fact that he's gone. Don't 1325 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 2: doub about it. I'm not telling you wouldn't have feelings like, hey, 1326 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 2: this is bullshit, But would you actually would you actually 1327 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 2: change your consumer behavior? Boy? I am skeptical of that 1328 01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 2: idea big time. 1329 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: I do wonder how much of it, though, would be 1330 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 1: if the if the message of the broadcast change. Now, 1331 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: remember ESPN has the rights, but they don't handle the broadcast. 1332 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,919 Speaker 1: They take a finished product from the UFC and era 1333 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: and that was you know, that allowed them from a 1334 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 1: pr standpoint, or so they thought to distance themselves from this, 1335 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 1: But I don't know, Luke, if if like there are 1336 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 1: people like we were surprised at how many people reacted 1337 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 1: to this Dana White situation from the extreme like well 1338 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 1: she hit him first, like that whole side of it, 1339 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 1: and not you know, just maybe missing the point on 1340 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 1: the human element of in the long reach of all 1341 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: of this. But those same people right want exactly what 1342 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 1: data offers them, which is we don't bring politics to 1343 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: the broadcast. We don't really talk up people's you know, 1344 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 1: troubles outside of the cage. We're really just here to 1345 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 1: put on these badass fights for you to suspend your 1346 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 1: regular life and just you know, be entertained and enjoy. 1347 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: If that changed dramatically, I do think you'd have a 1348 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 1: in a effect on the business. 1349 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose a short term one. I really I 1350 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 2: have a very hard time feeling like the people who 1351 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 2: also run UFC, like in terms of the actual day 1352 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 2: to day operations, fighter contracts, negotiations, marketing, ad buys, creative control, 1353 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 2: all of that stuff. I genuinely feel like they've got 1354 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 2: a clear handle on it now as well, and it 1355 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 2: would be I think the product would be just fine. 1356 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 2: I just don't buy dude, They've built a very very 1357 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 2: very competent, smooth, well run machine. Like, this is the 1358 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 2: part about the UFC. It's not just bigger and more successful, dude, 1359 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 2: Like they're back end the people who they have, Like 1360 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 2: they've got Harvard MBA's running the marketing, they've got some 1361 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 2: of the best video editors that you can find on 1362 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 2: the market. Like, dude, it's so much talent, run on expectation, 1363 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 2: run on schedules. The train always leaves the station. Again. Again, 1364 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 2: if Steve Jobs being gone from Apple like doesn't in 1365 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 2: any way really hurt it, It's just very difficult for 1366 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 2: me to you know, that data is again, not that 1367 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 2: he wasn't in any previous impoint in time, extremely essential. 1368 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 2: I just don't think that's the case today. Not that 1369 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 2: he should be removed, but like we're just talking business necessity. 1370 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 2: How much is he a necessity for that business? Not 1371 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 2: as much as you might imagine, Not as much. 1372 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 1: That's all right, all right? Topic number three, Luke, are 1373 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 1: the actual fights this weekend? One on Amazon Prime six 1374 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 1: goes down this evening from Bangkok. We've also got a 1375 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 1: UFC fight night in Las Vegas with of course a 1376 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 1: very interesting middleweight about in the main event Na Sardine 1377 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 1: Imomov against Sean Stricklan, who, of course is replacing Kelvin 1378 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 1: gastolom on less than a week notice. And look there's 1379 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 1: some lesser boxing across the board, but it's weekend picks time. 1380 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 1: We don't, I mean with the ultimate like like we 1381 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 1: may never see James Cross again, but I did like 1382 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 1: him as like a coach and personality and fighter. So 1383 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 1: should we name this seg this unnamed pixel, Luke? Should 1384 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 1: we name it parlays and Punani's in his honor? 1385 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 2: We should name it whatever We're gonna name it and 1386 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 2: move along because we've got a lot of show left. Goddamn. 1387 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,400 Speaker 1: Just enjoy the rye, Luke, justin I'm driving. Just enjoy it. 1388 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 1: It feels so good, right all right, So here's the deal, 1389 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 1: Luke and I every week are gonna as long as 1390 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 1: there's enough action that weekend, we are going to make 1391 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: five picks head to head against each other, under five 1392 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 1: different categories. One a pick on the main event. Two 1393 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,439 Speaker 1: picking an underdog to win, Three picking a favorite to win. 1394 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Four choosing a fight that will go either over or 1395 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 1: under in terms of going the distance or not. In five, 1396 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 1: picking one fight that will end in either KO or submission, 1397 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: and you have to pick whether it'll end in either way. Luke, 1398 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 1: we are going to compete week by week and at 1399 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,920 Speaker 1: the end of the year, correct me if I'm wrong. 1400 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 1: Whoever's record is better to close? Twenty twenty three gets 1401 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:06,000 Speaker 1: to force his co host to go with him to 1402 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 1: a music concert of his choice of which Morning Combat 1403 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 1: Dot Cams and Jay von Amsterdam would be present for 1404 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:19,320 Speaker 1: the proceedings. Wow. What that's a juicy offering right there, dude, 1405 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 1: that is an unnamed pick segment. That is juicy. All right, 1406 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: we kicked things off. This is it. This is the pilot, Luke. 1407 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm excited. Here we go pick number one. We're gonna 1408 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 1: go back and forth here, but it involves the main 1409 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: event of UFC Fight Night, Nasordine Imovov versus Sean Strickland, Luke, 1410 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 1: Sean Strickland gave a bizarre rant at Media Day this 1411 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:49,480 Speaker 1: week that was sketchballs in a lot of areas purposely, right, 1412 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 1: He's really trying to grab that that that cringe and 1413 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 1: hammer it on you. Did he call John Morgan Wado 1414 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,560 Speaker 1: from Star Wars to Phantom Medicine? 1415 01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 2: Did you hear that yeah, I did hear that. That's unfortunate. 1416 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,440 Speaker 1: That's that I think you called Anthony Pettis autistic. I 1417 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 1: mean there was a lot of it was bizarre, But 1418 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 1: in that he did talk about, look, he's taking this 1419 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 1: on short notice. He said he wasn't in camp, he 1420 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,920 Speaker 1: wasn't in shape. It was a month removed from his 1421 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,519 Speaker 1: loss to Jared cannoneer by split decision. But he got 1422 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,240 Speaker 1: the call. He was planning a vacation and he likes 1423 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 1: McK maynard so much that he said yes for a 1424 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 1: lot of money and here we are. So keep that 1425 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 1: in mind as we look at this main event. In 1426 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,679 Speaker 1: your current odds from our friends at Caesar Sportsbook, minus 1427 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 1: one twenty five is your favorite Nasterin Imovov and Sean 1428 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 1: Strickland a plus one oh five underdog heading into this 1429 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 1: main event. Luke, you want to talk about this matchup 1430 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,560 Speaker 1: at all before you get into your pick or you 1431 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:43,400 Speaker 1: want to just bring it? 1432 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 2: No, do the picks all right? 1433 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,800 Speaker 1: Pick number one in our weekly Showdown main event, Luke, 1434 01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 1: I like Nasardine Imovov here, and I do believe there's 1435 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 1: a big opportunity for Sean Strickland to come back on 1436 01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: short notice. Reverse the two recent losses against the competition. 1437 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,320 Speaker 1: He can kind of double down here, but there's there 1438 01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 1: is risk involved, and you know, Nasadain Imovov does seem 1439 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 1: to be coming on. Yes, there was that loss to 1440 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,759 Speaker 1: Phil Howe's close decision, but Luke, I mean, he almost 1441 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 1: knocked him out in the final minute a couple of 1442 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 1: times and was putting on him. You could even argue 1443 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 1: that Imovov could have won that fight. Since then, he's 1444 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 1: been in wars, but he's been getting it done. This 1445 01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 1: is a big leap for him to go to the 1446 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,800 Speaker 1: five round main event level and a more difficult fight 1447 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 1: on paper than Kelvin Gasolom for sure, But I feel 1448 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,600 Speaker 1: like Luke, he's gonna have to make it gnarly, but 1449 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be more physical on the clinches. 1450 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to utilize takedowns. But he can win 1451 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 1: this fight. And he's got a fighting spirit that I 1452 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 1: think inevitably eventually will get him into trouble. But I 1453 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 1: think at this level, against this opponent, I think Imovov 1454 01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 1: can get it done. That's my pick for the main event. 1455 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 2: My pick is not much different. It's im Evolve. So 1456 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 2: there's actually a few of our picks that I might 1457 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 2: overlap here unfortunately, but we have a hole here in 1458 01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 2: front of us, so we'll see how it goes. But 1459 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 2: I grew with im Avov, and I think I had 1460 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 2: said Sean Strickland's an active leg kicker, but the last 1461 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 2: three fights he has not been. Now, prior to that, 1462 01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 2: we have seen him throw upwards of ten around, like 1463 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,080 Speaker 2: against Christoph Jockoe for example. And again this is a 1464 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,320 Speaker 2: guy in im Avov not really an aggressive defender of 1465 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 2: leg kick, so I thought, wow, that could be a thing, 1466 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 2: But more recently he hasn't really done that. But BC, 1467 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,839 Speaker 2: like we've talked about how they match up, I think avovolve. 1468 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 2: You know, we'll see if it the longer it goes, 1469 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 2: that could really favor Strickland. You know, again, he's a 1470 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,719 Speaker 2: good takedown defense, but I think the guy who's gonna 1471 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 2: bring the fight to the other one is definitely gonna 1472 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,840 Speaker 2: be im Evolve. That's the first thing, and the other 1473 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 2: one is It's like, I appreciate that Sean Strickland as 1474 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,800 Speaker 2: fucking batshit, is insane as he is and says that 1475 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 2: the worst shit ever. I appreciate that he wanted to 1476 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,680 Speaker 2: get back out there. I just don't really like it 1477 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 2: when they do this. I don't mind when someone wins 1478 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 2: and then they get back out there again, like, oh 1479 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,599 Speaker 2: I took a fight, didn't take any damage, I'll fight 1480 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 2: again in three weeks. I'm fine with that. But when 1481 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,559 Speaker 2: they lose and they're like they really didn't like the decision, 1482 01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 2: and it really just they just just want to they 1483 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 2: want to get that l out of their mind, so 1484 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 2: they quickly take another one. Dudev is no one to 1485 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 2: fuck with, man, He's just not. So I just don't 1486 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 2: like the circumstances under which Sean Draid is taking this fight, 1487 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,599 Speaker 2: and so for that reason, for that reason, I'm gonna 1488 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:14,280 Speaker 2: take Imvov. 1489 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,639 Speaker 1: Now there is big reward, like we mentioned, you get 1490 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,559 Speaker 1: right back into the overall title picture, and you're gonna 1491 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 1: get a big fight. But dude, everything you just said 1492 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 1: right there. So we're gonna see how it plays out there. 1493 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 1: But it's like it's Strickland. If everything isn't perfect for 1494 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,840 Speaker 1: Sean Strickland here, then he's got to make Then this 1495 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 1: is gonna be more of a war. But I do 1496 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 1: think Imovov's kickboxing Luke will start to catch up with 1497 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:40,360 Speaker 1: Strickland and he'll be able to land big clean shots. Uh. 1498 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,960 Speaker 1: There's also a submission threat element here for Imavov. Like 1499 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 1: there's some there's some ways he can win fights spectacularly. 1500 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,680 Speaker 1: He also can get grinded down. But Stot, you know, 1501 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,800 Speaker 1: this is a big step for him, big opportunity. I 1502 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,000 Speaker 1: like him here, Luke, our pick number two as we 1503 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,719 Speaker 1: go head to head is a favorite on the card. 1504 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 1: We do have betting limits based on how many fights 1505 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,760 Speaker 1: and where the odds are about minus three hundred or 1506 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,800 Speaker 1: less or so sometimes minus four hundred based on the week. 1507 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 1: But Luke, as I looked up and down here, I'm 1508 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: taking for my betting favorite and it is a close 1509 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,599 Speaker 1: betting favorite. Caesar's has this women's bandam weight bout which 1510 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 1: has big stakes in the overall title picture here, which 1511 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 1: we don't often talk about because this division doesn't often 1512 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 1: give us a lot to talk about it bantam weight, 1513 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 1: but Kaitlyn Vera is a minus one thirty favorite against 1514 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,639 Speaker 1: the plus one to ten Raquel Pennington. We talked about 1515 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: the wind streaks of both and where they are at 1516 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 1: coming in. I just think Kaitlyn Vera is a has 1517 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 1: more plus elements to her game. I'm gonna take her 1518 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 1: as a small betting favorite, and I think it's a 1519 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 1: strong one here for this fight to go the three 1520 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,439 Speaker 1: round distance, be physical, Rocky will do some rocky things, 1521 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,799 Speaker 1: and she has a way of rallying late in rounds 1522 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 1: with the dirty boxing, especially when she can take the 1523 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,360 Speaker 1: punishment to get inside but then start to be a 1524 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,000 Speaker 1: physical force. But this is a big one for KTLN 1525 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,680 Speaker 1: and I do think striking wise and in terms of 1526 01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,640 Speaker 1: her how she goes after submissions, there's gonna be opportunities 1527 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,160 Speaker 1: in here for to shine and take control of this. 1528 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 1: So I'm going Kaitlyn Vere as my favorite. 1529 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,680 Speaker 2: I like that pick. Now, you see, I'll put my 1530 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:06,880 Speaker 2: cards on the table here. If you want me to 1531 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 2: pick someone else, I have a backup pick, so this 1532 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,599 Speaker 2: is easy for me to do. The person I picked 1533 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,960 Speaker 2: is anywhere from minus three h five and certain places 1534 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 2: to minus three fifteen other ones. 1535 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,599 Speaker 1: That's fact that in our strike zone here, let's ok okay. 1536 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,799 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take Javid Basharat over at miteas Mendoza. 1537 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,120 Speaker 2: I told you I was looking forward to this one 1538 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 2: because I think Mendosa is gonna give him trouble in spots. 1539 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 2: I definitely take Mendosa very seriously. He is aggressive, hard nose, 1540 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,960 Speaker 2: fantastic striker, love it and Basharat, I think is much 1541 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 2: more well rounded, which is why I'm picking him to win. 1542 01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,400 Speaker 2: But I do believe that there are areas where Mendosa 1543 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,320 Speaker 2: can be better than him, and particularly in a distance striking, 1544 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 2: that is an area where I could see him giving 1545 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,639 Speaker 2: Basharaz some problems. But I am big on Basharat. Both 1546 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,759 Speaker 2: these guys undefeated, both guys in their twenties. But Javid 1547 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,960 Speaker 2: Basharat out of Afghanistan originally and now obviously with extreme 1548 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,599 Speaker 2: cauture training with Jake Shields and a lot of other folks, 1549 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,920 Speaker 2: he is so good. He is so well rounded, he 1550 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,240 Speaker 2: is so built for distance and other kinds of he 1551 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,200 Speaker 2: can he can, He can just do so many things. 1552 01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:06,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Javi at Basharat here. I like 1553 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,840 Speaker 2: his game a lot, big fan of him. 1554 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,240 Speaker 1: Now are you giving me the hey, BC, this might 1555 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 1: not be shot cut rock monof. I'm not trying to 1556 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,600 Speaker 1: sell you that, but I got that feeling again. I 1557 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:17,280 Speaker 1: got that itch. 1558 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,200 Speaker 2: He's so different than Rockmanov. It's like he can. I 1559 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,760 Speaker 2: feel like he hasn't quite figured out internally who he 1560 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 2: is yet as a fighter, like He's obviously got some 1561 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,679 Speaker 2: idea because he's so good, and I think he's tried 1562 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 2: to get good at everything. Rockmanov is much more clear 1563 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,439 Speaker 2: out about the things he likes and is good at. 1564 01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,679 Speaker 2: He's well rounded too, but he's a very clear sense 1565 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,920 Speaker 2: of purpose. Basharat, to me, is just so well rounded. 1566 01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,679 Speaker 2: I think he feels like I'm gonna beat you everywhere. 1567 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,639 Speaker 2: I would like to see him keep all that well 1568 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 2: roundedness and then really home in on some you know, 1569 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 2: some ace up the ace in the the sleeve kind 1570 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,040 Speaker 2: of territory, right, like something I really can get over 1571 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,600 Speaker 2: everyone with. He hasn't quite crossed that threshold yet, but 1572 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 2: this is another step in that direction. 1573 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 1: Good stuff, good stuff. Looking forward to seeing if he 1574 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,720 Speaker 1: can hold up to this hammer. Luke. It's like I 1575 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,080 Speaker 1: always can see, like the the UFC strawweights that are 1576 01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,599 Speaker 1: coming right and from the distance, and I are like, look, 1577 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 1: have you seen this fighter like you have that way 1578 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,320 Speaker 1: with like the intersection between Europe and Asia right around 1579 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 1: that area. Luke, You've got that on lockdown for like 1580 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 1: lightweight to welter weight to middleweight strikers, you know, And 1581 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 1: it's like a pipeline. 1582 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:20,400 Speaker 2: Luke. 1583 01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:24,639 Speaker 1: Okay, the people, not that I mean I I utilize 1584 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: a pipeline for the for the for the fighters I 1585 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 1: scout as well. Luke, all right, pick number three. We 1586 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,080 Speaker 1: have to pick an underdog to succeed, and Luke, we've 1587 01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,599 Speaker 1: got close odds here and a fight that I may 1588 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,959 Speaker 1: have tipped my hand in terms of my analysis on Wednesday, 1589 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,480 Speaker 1: when we're talking about the Cole Maine and Event featherweights, 1590 01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 1: Dan Ega Damon Jackson, I expect a track meet here. 1591 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,599 Speaker 1: I expect action. And when we look at the odds 1592 01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,439 Speaker 1: right now minus one thirty five Ega, your slight favorite 1593 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,240 Speaker 1: under the Caesar Sports Book plus one fifteen Damon Jackson. Yes, 1594 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,599 Speaker 1: Damon Jackson has to show us a lot here, Luke. 1595 01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 1: He's got he's got to get, he's he's climbing right now. 1596 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:04,000 Speaker 1: He's got climb more here. Egay is a tough ass 1597 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 1: out Luke, but I can't sell him as more of 1598 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 1: more than that in this matchup. And I think if 1599 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,800 Speaker 1: Jackson can continue down that path and not Plateau here, 1600 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,519 Speaker 1: it'll be a fun fight. It'll be a close fight, 1601 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 1: but I like him as my upset pick in terms 1602 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 1: of an underdog this week, give me David Jackson I'm 1603 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,080 Speaker 1: feeling it, Luke. Maybe I need a doctor to look 1604 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 1: at it. But it's a little it's a little red, 1605 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,200 Speaker 1: and it's like it's flaky in terms of like the rash. 1606 01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:27,599 Speaker 1: But I'm feeling it right now. 1607 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you about this. We didn't 1608 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 2: discuss this ahead of time because we're just still trying 1609 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 2: to figure out this segment we're gonna again. It doesn't 1610 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 2: even have a name. Could be Parlors and Poonani's we 1611 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 2: don't know yet. But BC, I don't know if I'm allowed. 1612 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:41,559 Speaker 2: So if I can't pick this one, I have a 1613 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 2: backup one. Again, I thought this through. We're fine. 1614 01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:45,960 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you said, I'm glad you set your 1615 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 1: picte in to the producer so they could build like 1616 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 1: graphics and stuff, Luke, And. 1617 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,240 Speaker 2: No, but they can. They'll be fine here, trust me. 1618 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 1: It looks like I'll just figure it out on the fly. 1619 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 2: Well, we never really discussed this, and then I thought 1620 01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 2: about it. I'm like, well, I don't know if you 1621 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 2: can do this, so outright in made event hooted at 1622 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,160 Speaker 2: who did you pick? But we're asking about underdog picks now. 1623 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,559 Speaker 2: They're not far apart in the in the in the 1624 01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,640 Speaker 2: in the numbers, our friends at Caesar's have currently, as 1625 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 2: it stands today, as a minus one twenty five, Strickland 1626 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:12,120 Speaker 2: as a plus one oh five. 1627 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,559 Speaker 1: As I said over text yesterday, you can only pick 1628 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,400 Speaker 1: one fight. Well, you can only pick a fight once 1629 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 1: in your five picks. 1630 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 2: Got it? Okay? So in that sense, here's my backup pick. 1631 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,559 Speaker 2: I apologize I missed that part. I mean, you can't. 1632 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,439 Speaker 1: What are we trying to do? Parlays here? I mean, 1633 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you. 1634 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,559 Speaker 2: The I trying to do, trying to do. I was 1635 01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 2: trying to do main pick underdog Strickland. So that no 1636 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 2: matter what I why was I? 1637 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,040 Speaker 1: Why was I anal over the over the rules need 1638 01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,120 Speaker 1: to be said. So Luke doesn't go, oh, I'll take 1639 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,599 Speaker 1: that favorite. He's what a minus sixteen hundred? 1640 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 2: Fine? Yeah, so here's my backup. That's fine. I had 1641 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,839 Speaker 2: to prepare it. It's fine. I'm gonna go. Raquel Pennington. 1642 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,920 Speaker 2: Now you pick Kaitlyn Vieira as your favorite. 1643 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,080 Speaker 1: She curly ahead, let's go, Yes, let's go. 1644 01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 2: So you picked her to go at minus one thirty, 1645 01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,320 Speaker 2: she is just a slight slight favorite over the plus 1646 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:59,760 Speaker 2: one ten for Raquel Pennington. I like Pennington's chances in 1647 01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,439 Speaker 2: this one. I do agree that Vieira has more chances 1648 01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 2: to win. I certainly not again, kind of like, if 1649 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 2: you know, gun to my head, whoo do I think 1650 01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 2: is gonna win this one? Vieira? But I gotta tell 1651 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 2: you if we're like we're looking at the list of 1652 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,960 Speaker 2: the underdogs whose chances do I like to tip over 1653 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 2: the apple cart the most? Under those considerations, Pennington's got 1654 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 2: a great chance, man, a really great chance. She's well rounded, 1655 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,040 Speaker 2: she's on a hot streak. They're not too far apart 1656 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,519 Speaker 2: in abilities, a couple of mistakes one way or the other. 1657 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 2: And by the way, Vieira keeps her head right in 1658 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 2: line to be hit all the time, no head movement 1659 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 2: at all. Pennington might box are up. I'll go Roquel 1660 01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 2: Pennington on that one. 1661 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,000 Speaker 1: Baby on the way, mad bills to pay Luke. Okay, 1662 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,880 Speaker 1: she's gonna come in ready, you know, fired up right? Yes, 1663 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:44,599 Speaker 1: drinking that. 1664 01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,120 Speaker 2: The same picks for the next two, God damn it. 1665 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little research would have been would have been five. 1666 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,200 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no. I picked these last night. 1667 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,400 Speaker 2: I didn't. 1668 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,759 Speaker 1: I sent them into the producers yesterday Lucas. 1669 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 2: I know I didn't I send mine in this morning 1670 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 2: or whatever, but I didn't notice you had it this way. 1671 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:01,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. I want to pick this way anyway. 1672 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,080 Speaker 1: Pick number four is we have to identify a fight 1673 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,719 Speaker 1: that will either yes, go the distance or one hundred 1674 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 1: percent not. Luke, I'm gonna take the over here. I'm 1675 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,880 Speaker 1: going to tell you that that this fight and maybe 1676 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,120 Speaker 1: maybe in the future, we have to put limitations because 1677 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,799 Speaker 1: how many times percentage wise do women's you know, banham 1678 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,640 Speaker 1: weight fights go the distance a lot, Luke. You know 1679 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,439 Speaker 1: a lot of these divisions in and around here. But 1680 01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,639 Speaker 1: the opening fight of the night was actually a flyweight 1681 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,799 Speaker 1: about at one twenty five priscillicachawhere versus Sijar you Banks. 1682 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,639 Speaker 1: I am looking at this from a super sloppy special angle. 1683 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 1: I think this will be a competitive fight between two 1684 01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 1: hungry individuals, even if there's not a ton of stakes. 1685 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,400 Speaker 1: But this is going to go the distance, Luke, Is 1686 01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,400 Speaker 1: that too easy? I I may have made a mockery 1687 01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 1: of the segment, but this one's going on. 1688 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm happy to move one of my other picks, but 1689 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,519 Speaker 2: I do want to keep this one. I really agree 1690 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,880 Speaker 2: with your analysis. Again, you Banks is pretty favor to 1691 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,559 Speaker 2: win this minus two forty to catch Weres plus two hundred. 1692 01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,840 Speaker 2: But it just doesn't necessarily feel like there is a 1693 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 2: monster gap between them and bo. I would say catchaway. 1694 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 2: It probably has more of a chance to knuckle you 1695 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,559 Speaker 2: Banks into a finish, but I don't think that that's likely. 1696 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,599 Speaker 2: And u Banks is talented but hasn't necessarily showed herself 1697 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 2: to be like a prodigious finisher, So that one just 1698 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,760 Speaker 2: feels like it's built for distance. I'm going to keep 1699 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,599 Speaker 2: my pick on that one, just like yours. I really 1700 01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,880 Speaker 2: agree with your analysis of all the ones I can 1701 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,240 Speaker 2: look at who fit within the shall we say, the 1702 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,559 Speaker 2: betting limits that we put on it. I just feel 1703 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,200 Speaker 2: like a great candidate for a decision. 1704 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,280 Speaker 1: All right, next week we'll have to figure out a 1705 01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,160 Speaker 1: plan where we don't have the same pick. We'll get 1706 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:35,360 Speaker 1: around that. But finally, Luke, submission or ko we have 1707 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 1: to pick the fight. I got a sub here and 1708 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:43,000 Speaker 1: the umar Namagha Metov Heini Barcellas fight. It could go 1709 01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 1: either way too in theory, right, I mean it always could, 1710 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:49,080 Speaker 1: but give me yes, this fight ends in submission. 1711 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,720 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll make us different pick just for fun, and 1712 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 2: I apologize to Mikey and the production crew, but just 1713 01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:56,680 Speaker 2: to switch it up so we don't have so many 1714 01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,160 Speaker 2: of the same picks. That's way. We only have two 1715 01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,400 Speaker 2: of the five as the same. Not a bit deal. 1716 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,680 Speaker 2: But I'll go ko. I just don't see how it 1717 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,720 Speaker 2: ends in anything but a KO between Abdul Razzak al 1718 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 2: Hassen and then Claudio Hibbero. Now Abdul Razak al Haassen 1719 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,320 Speaker 2: at times has been like he had like gone the 1720 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,599 Speaker 2: distance advice you just never imagined. And by the way 1721 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,760 Speaker 2: he could do the knocking out, he could get knocked out. 1722 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 2: Really he is a gun slinger, but that's exactly what 1723 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 2: he is. He just goes out there and fights balls 1724 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,439 Speaker 2: out for as long as the fight lasts, and either 1725 01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 2: he knuckles someone down because he's a big puncher and 1726 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,519 Speaker 2: he's aggressive, or he gasses and he gets finished off. 1727 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 2: It really isn't necessarily for the most part, with an 1728 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,479 Speaker 2: exception here or there, not much of a change in 1729 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 2: that direction. Now, the odds are very different than the 1730 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,400 Speaker 2: number made. I'll fight this one is a pick him 1731 01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 2: minus one oh five to minus one fifteen, so it's 1732 01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, it's just very very close. But in terms 1733 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,000 Speaker 2: of one that I feel confidently will end in a finish, 1734 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,000 Speaker 2: I would be very surprised if that one went the distance. 1735 01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:59,000 Speaker 1: Those are our five picks. Luke will review those next 1736 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 1: week and again this process, we went all UFC, but 1737 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,960 Speaker 1: it could have been just the same boxing, BELLA Tour 1738 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,960 Speaker 1: one Championship, PFL, whatever you got here, bare knuckle Luke, 1739 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:13,720 Speaker 1: maybe maybe knuckle Luke. We did want to mention there 1740 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,639 Speaker 1: were some changes to the to the fight cards this weekend, 1741 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:21,600 Speaker 1: particularly tonight's one on Amazon six from Bangkok card and 1742 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Anissa Mexan didn't even show up to 1743 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,639 Speaker 1: Wayn's Luke or try to take off the weight there 1744 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,680 Speaker 1: against stam Fairtech's in their kickboxing bout, So instead we're 1745 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,320 Speaker 1: gonna have a strawweight kickboxing bout with Anna Supergirl Derunsack 1746 01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,680 Speaker 1: filling in last minute, So I mean fireworks still, Luke, probably. 1747 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,320 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I guess it should be fine. I mean, 1748 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,400 Speaker 2: I don't really care about that fight that much. It's 1749 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,280 Speaker 2: the main event that I've really got my eye on, 1750 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:47,519 Speaker 2: so we'll see how that goes. 1751 01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,640 Speaker 1: Do you have any any further analysis or predictions on 1752 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,320 Speaker 1: any of the other fights this weekend, Luke. 1753 01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 2: I think Superbond will win tonight. I do think Superbond 1754 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,599 Speaker 2: is gonna beat alas Off, but we'll see, we'll see, 1755 01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:58,040 Speaker 2: all right. 1756 01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,719 Speaker 1: Also, Luke, this weekend Top rank Boxing an interesting heavyweight 1757 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,880 Speaker 1: man event. Just want to mention a quick fa at Jagua. 1758 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,080 Speaker 1: I remember that slugger, Luke. He's going to take on 1759 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,639 Speaker 1: a late replacement but unbeaten Stephen Shaw, the American who's 1760 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,680 Speaker 1: actually a minus one sixty fave betting favorite to the 1761 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,559 Speaker 1: plus one thirty a jag bas. So this is going 1762 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,679 Speaker 1: to be an interesting test because I believe a joga 1763 01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,519 Speaker 1: was only defeat was in that Frank Sanchez loss on 1764 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,240 Speaker 1: that pay per view undercard when he got out boxing 1765 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,320 Speaker 1: drink is very good, Yeah, very good. So you know, look, 1766 01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,760 Speaker 1: I've seen Stephanshaw before, Luke. I called one of his 1767 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,760 Speaker 1: fights on the NBC series, and he can box. He 1768 01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing from distance. See if let's see 1769 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,800 Speaker 1: if you can handle the thunder from a jagua. That's 1770 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,320 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. And Luke, do you have any analysis 1771 01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:43,240 Speaker 1: here about Saturday's design boxing offering KSI versus late replacement 1772 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,800 Speaker 1: phase temper um. 1773 01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:49,080 Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. 1774 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. Topic number four, Luke Scott Cooker, 1775 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,519 Speaker 1: Bellator President, CEO, whatever you want to call him. Here, Luke, 1776 01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,599 Speaker 1: he was on the MMA or the speak of Ariel 1777 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,880 Speaker 1: Hawani with breaking news Bellator is going to have this 1778 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,679 Speaker 1: lightweight Grand Prix tournament and we now have early dates 1779 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:13,799 Speaker 1: and the eight names participating. The champion, Usman Dermaga Madoff 1780 01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,799 Speaker 1: will kick it off March tenth against Benson Henderson Tofique 1781 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,880 Speaker 1: Musayev will be in the co main event that night 1782 01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,639 Speaker 1: against Alexander Shabili. That fight will take place in San Jose. 1783 01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:28,720 Speaker 1: And look the other participants, Aj McKee, Patricky Pippoll, the 1784 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 1: former champion, Monsur Barnui, Sydney Outlaw and March tenth, San Jose. 1785 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,160 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, it's kicking off a couple other I 1786 01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,360 Speaker 1: believe first round matchups have also been announced in other cities. Here, Luke, 1787 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:46,000 Speaker 1: when you look at the field, though stronger than you expected, 1788 01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:47,680 Speaker 1: about right, well, how do you how do you sort 1789 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:48,439 Speaker 1: of classify this? 1790 01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 2: I think this is about right. When we looked at 1791 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:56,120 Speaker 2: the rankings, because CBS does rankings for Bellator, and you 1792 01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,240 Speaker 2: look at those and you look at beltos I mean 1793 01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,240 Speaker 2: CBS contributes, I mean to the bel toor rank. So 1794 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,840 Speaker 2: you can look at those and see and their names 1795 01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,439 Speaker 2: weren't hard to figure out. You knew it was gonna 1796 01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:05,800 Speaker 2: be aj You knew it was gonna be Usminn and 1797 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,840 Speaker 2: Mriga madeoff to Fike Mussaiev And again I could be wrong. 1798 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:13,120 Speaker 2: I believe it's pronounced Alexander Shabilee. You knew they were 1799 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,680 Speaker 2: gonna be on there. Then we talked about it when 1800 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,320 Speaker 2: he won over in Europe, I believe recently mansel Or Barnawi, 1801 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,559 Speaker 2: we were like, okay, well he's just a force that's 1802 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,639 Speaker 2: gonna to be reckoned with Sidney Outlaw has been ranked 1803 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,599 Speaker 2: for some time. And then Petricky Pippole was the former 1804 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:26,320 Speaker 2: champion of this weight class who just lost to Usman. 1805 01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:27,600 Speaker 2: Like you kind of knew who was going to be 1806 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:31,120 Speaker 2: in there, but Luke no, Peter Kuelely, no, Peter Coely. 1807 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:32,559 Speaker 2: I was yeah that that part. There was a couple 1808 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,160 Speaker 2: of names you like maybe could get in, maybe not. 1809 01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:35,800 Speaker 2: But like in general, the big names you thought were 1810 01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,720 Speaker 2: gonna be there are gonna be there. I gotta tell 1811 01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,559 Speaker 2: you the Usmin mkamadef Benson Henderson fight. I kind of 1812 01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,759 Speaker 2: love that one because I think Usman is just incredibly talented, 1813 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:49,639 Speaker 2: but Benson is a resilient, veteran, highly experienced guy who's 1814 01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,599 Speaker 2: not gonna be easy to beat. That's gonna be fun 1815 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,639 Speaker 2: to fake. Musaia versus Alexander Shablee is just two fucking 1816 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,000 Speaker 2: hammers from that part of the world going at it, 1817 01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:58,559 Speaker 2: and we'll see how the rest of the brackets go. 1818 01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,600 Speaker 2: I had aj McKee on Morning Combat yesterday and he 1819 01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:03,559 Speaker 2: told me he wants to fight Patricky in the first round. 1820 01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,920 Speaker 2: After that, he doesn't really care BC. My only thing 1821 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:07,800 Speaker 2: I would say is I think they've got the right names. 1822 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,080 Speaker 2: This was like a phenomenal Grand Prix. I just hope 1823 01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:11,760 Speaker 2: it gets done on time. And more to the point, 1824 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,559 Speaker 2: I hope aj McKee and Uspin Nuburga Madoff are on 1825 01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,960 Speaker 2: opposite sides of the bracket. It does seem to me. Yeahf, 1826 01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:19,040 Speaker 2: that is a necessity. 1827 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:23,120 Speaker 1: You just gave away the pooch before we could present 1828 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,599 Speaker 1: the bag, Luke, but we do have sound to throw 1829 01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,280 Speaker 1: to of you talking with aj McKee about his hopes 1830 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,320 Speaker 1: and dreams for this who he wants to face let's 1831 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:31,000 Speaker 1: hear from the man. 1832 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:33,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1833 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,919 Speaker 4: I think honestly, I think what would make sense is patriarchy, 1834 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,840 Speaker 4: and I just just because of the family feud, you 1835 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,320 Speaker 4: know what I mean. His brother and I have been 1836 01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 4: combative back and forth with each other or one in one, 1837 01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 4: so you know, maybe maybe it's big brother who comes 1838 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 4: in and settles, settles this once and for all, and 1839 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,680 Speaker 4: once again there's another million on the line. So I 1840 01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 4: think that should be the first fight, you know. I 1841 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:01,960 Speaker 4: think that's the fight to make. I think that's the 1842 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,800 Speaker 4: fight that the people can get behind, like I've always 1843 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:06,880 Speaker 4: said of pit Bull's pit Bull. 1844 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:12,800 Speaker 1: So I'm just looking forward to taking my walk. I 1845 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,760 Speaker 1: like that, Luke. I like that match making a lot. 1846 01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,840 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, me too. And I do think that Patricky 1847 01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,559 Speaker 2: has vastly improved he was he's always been, you know, 1848 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,920 Speaker 2: something of like a lesser version of Patricio, I think 1849 01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,840 Speaker 2: in the eyes of many, which is not unfair. I mean, 1850 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:30,160 Speaker 2: many fighters are lesser versions or lesser ability than Patricio. 1851 01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,080 Speaker 2: But I do think that Patricky's the best he's ever been. 1852 01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,639 Speaker 2: And even though he lost to Usbin Nimrika made off 1853 01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,439 Speaker 2: he is trickier than he's ever been too, so he's 1854 01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,360 Speaker 2: always had big power and now he's got much better 1855 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,320 Speaker 2: decision making around it. If they that's the fight to make, 1856 01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,200 Speaker 2: I love it. And then from there, I guess we'll see. 1857 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:47,880 Speaker 2: But BC, I'm just gonna say it, I don't know 1858 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,840 Speaker 2: if I see Sidney Outlaw as like the dark horse, yeah, 1859 01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:54,960 Speaker 2: mansor BARNOWI, Yeah, he definitely is the dark horse. 1860 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 1: And they could have a Corey Anderson like run to 1861 01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,880 Speaker 1: the finals. Luke here for a million bucks. 1862 01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah yes, and then Tafika Musaia as well as a 1863 01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,960 Speaker 2: fucking absolute hammer. And there's a lot of guys in 1864 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 2: this that are gonna, I think, wake people up. This 1865 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,599 Speaker 2: is gonna be an excellent tournament. 1866 01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,759 Speaker 1: I mean, Benson Henderson's gonna fight for the Bellator title 1867 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,280 Speaker 1: in San Jose to kick things off against you know, 1868 01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,960 Speaker 1: the next big thing here in whose minor Maga metalf 1869 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,639 Speaker 1: I love that. I love the potential matchmaking of McKee 1870 01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:23,200 Speaker 1: versus Patricky. And obviously this coincided with McKee signing that 1871 01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,920 Speaker 1: new multi fight, multi year deal. Uh we didn't, we 1872 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,400 Speaker 1: didn't get specific details correct in that, but it feels big, right. 1873 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,040 Speaker 2: He told me, Uh, he told me six fights six 1874 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 2: fights is the deal? 1875 01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,080 Speaker 1: Well looks yeah, which. 1876 01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,679 Speaker 2: Is which is? Which is fairly I mean that's fairly lengthy. 1877 01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,600 Speaker 2: Although to his point BC, he's like, well, three of 1878 01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,519 Speaker 2: them are going to be in the tournament anyway, and 1879 01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,160 Speaker 2: I was like, in my mind, I was like, well, 1880 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,280 Speaker 2: only if you win. If you win, very true. 1881 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,640 Speaker 1: But but seriously though, in terms of like like the 1882 01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,000 Speaker 1: spark the Spike Carlisle fight that introduced us to AJ 1883 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,599 Speaker 1: at lightweight here, you know, was crazy because Carlisle made 1884 01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,639 Speaker 1: it that way, but overall we got to see AJ's 1885 01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 1: in a good spot. I like him in this division, 1886 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,519 Speaker 1: but like Patricky is also like kind of the perfect 1887 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,360 Speaker 1: next test in that regard to find out exactly who 1888 01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,080 Speaker 1: AJ is in this division. And obviously you add in 1889 01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:14,280 Speaker 1: the family drama connected to that. It's basically another preview 1890 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:18,600 Speaker 1: for the inevitable trilogy that's gonna happen between Patricio and 1891 01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:23,040 Speaker 1: and AJ. So that mixed with the obvious lick your 1892 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,879 Speaker 1: lips excitement for McKee versus Normaga Metov in the finals 1893 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:30,240 Speaker 1: if it happens, Yeah, they've got something brewing here. I'm 1894 01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,559 Speaker 1: into it. I'm into a big time all right, sign 1895 01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:36,760 Speaker 1: me up? Love it Yeah, let's feel that together. Okay, Wow, 1896 01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,640 Speaker 1: what a great Friday show we're putting together you and 1897 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,160 Speaker 1: I right now. It's just you know, it's like it's 1898 01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 1: like throwing a no hitter on acid. Luke's just great, 1899 01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,519 Speaker 1: It's great. All right. Hey, Topic five, We've got some 1900 01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,439 Speaker 1: fight announcements here to find out if these have tickled 1901 01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:54,599 Speaker 1: Luke in the fancy spot. Justin Gaetchee versus Rafael Phazive 1902 01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:58,360 Speaker 1: is in the works, Luke. Phazigue talked to Captain Hardcore 1903 01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,120 Speaker 1: and said, I'm not announcing anything, but the UFC promised 1904 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:05,280 Speaker 1: us that I'll be fighting Justin Gaichie in March. Uh. 1905 01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,080 Speaker 1: If that's the direction Gaichee goes here, Luke, after a 1906 01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:12,280 Speaker 1: couple losses on the title level, is this the right 1907 01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:14,080 Speaker 1: this is the right come down fight for him to 1908 01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,640 Speaker 1: simultaneously find out exactly where Phaziv is. 1909 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Phyziv has earned it. Phaziv has earned it, and 1910 01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:25,240 Speaker 2: that fight is fucking bananas because it's going to be 1911 01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:31,960 Speaker 2: two absolute fucking just heavy heavy heavy hitters trying to 1912 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 2: take each other's head off. Very little wrestling at all 1913 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,400 Speaker 2: will be involved in that one. I suspect Phyziv I 1914 01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,400 Speaker 2: you know, you and I both are very high on 1915 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,559 Speaker 2: Justin Geigee has done incredible things in the sport. But 1916 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,840 Speaker 2: you gotta wonder if he's on the come down now 1917 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,240 Speaker 2: a little bit, and Phyzivee's on the way up. And 1918 01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,639 Speaker 2: we've said it also too, b See. You know the 1919 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,519 Speaker 2: Kuta te Lazzis, the sar Yukians, This Mugoula was part 1920 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,160 Speaker 2: of it, but he retired, But the gam Rots, and 1921 01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,600 Speaker 2: of course you mentioned Phyziv. Now this new class of 1922 01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,559 Speaker 2: one to fifty five ers who are coming in with 1923 01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,880 Speaker 2: z's and v's in their name, tearing people to shreds. 1924 01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:03,800 Speaker 2: I wonder if this is going to be part of 1925 01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:05,520 Speaker 2: that continuing tradition. 1926 01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:10,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, Master Shredder. Indeed, Bellatore announced a four pack of 1927 01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:14,480 Speaker 1: additions to the Belatore two ninety card February fourth, CBS 1928 01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:18,800 Speaker 1: Fader Beedar two or maybe it's bedor a couple other 1929 01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,160 Speaker 1: offerings including Johnnypplin. But Luke, I don't know if all 1930 01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:22,800 Speaker 1: of these are going to air on the CBS card 1931 01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,280 Speaker 1: or if they'll be in some form of a prelim. 1932 01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:30,200 Speaker 1: But they're strong here, heavyweight Steve Maure versus ali Isayev 1933 01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:36,680 Speaker 1: Lorenz Larkin versus mukamaed Berkhamov, Darien Caldwell versus Nikita Mikhalov, 1934 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:41,240 Speaker 1: and Isaiah Hokit versus Peter Ishi Gurro anything getting trip 1935 01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:42,680 Speaker 1: in your fancy there, Luke, because I like it. 1936 01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,160 Speaker 2: Ali isayev One is big, he had a decorated background 1937 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,280 Speaker 2: in I believe amateur wrestling was a big signing for them. 1938 01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:51,559 Speaker 2: For Bellatore, that's a bit of a big get. Steve 1939 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,200 Speaker 2: Mallory a huge guy, a sort of a Bellatoor homegrown product, 1940 01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,080 Speaker 2: not from day one, but for a while now. His 1941 01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:00,799 Speaker 2: biggest fights have certainly been in Bellatour. He's huge, huge dude. 1942 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,040 Speaker 2: That's gonna be a really fun one. And also Lorenz 1943 01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,639 Speaker 2: Larkin was a big signing when he came over to Belatour. 1944 01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,280 Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's fulfilled for them the promise that 1945 01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,240 Speaker 2: we had kind of had at that Belitori and WeSC 1946 01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,200 Speaker 2: press conference when he was announced on stage. So I 1947 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 2: would like to see what he can do on this card. 1948 01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,200 Speaker 1: Is he operating at middleweight now moving forward? 1949 01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,920 Speaker 2: I can't say for certainty. Obviously, I think he has 1950 01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,639 Speaker 2: been historically his best work. 1951 01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:29,479 Speaker 1: But yeah, interesting all right? Also, Luke one Championship February tenth, 1952 01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:34,639 Speaker 1: John Lineker versus Fabricio de Androge the one, and also 1953 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:38,400 Speaker 1: Martin Win versus Shamil Gosanov on that same card. But dude, 1954 01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,360 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a Brazilian war, right Yeah. 1955 01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Lineker fight in the Androge fight had 1956 01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,320 Speaker 2: didn't end the right way the first time, so they're 1957 01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,360 Speaker 2: going to basically redo it for Deondrodge. I've told you 1958 01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,960 Speaker 2: guys about this. This is a young kid who can I mean, 1959 01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,519 Speaker 2: what a dynamic striker he is, and that means what 1960 01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:58,280 Speaker 2: I have to tell you about John Leneker, right, I 1961 01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,760 Speaker 2: mean John Lineker as we is. So running that one 1962 01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,360 Speaker 2: back to get a to get a less controversial finish 1963 01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,800 Speaker 2: is our result anyway is going to be I mean 1964 01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,840 Speaker 2: first order priority watching that one is not to be 1965 01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:11,519 Speaker 2: missed at all. 1966 01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that the first fight was was crazy. It was. 1967 01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 1: It was pretty crazy. March fifth, UFC giving us Derek 1968 01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:22,240 Speaker 1: Brunson and Drinkis du plus C in a very interesting 1969 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:26,760 Speaker 1: crossroads middleweight match up. Luke, your thoughts, I like it? 1970 01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:32,640 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, I mean, Darren Till didn't have 1971 01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:38,960 Speaker 2: a great performance against Dricis, So Dricis moves on. Derek 1972 01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:40,920 Speaker 2: Brunson hasn't been without his issues, but I think in 1973 01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:44,640 Speaker 2: general is in pretty decent form more or less. Uh, 1974 01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,320 Speaker 2: and he can wrestle his ass off obviously, So that's 1975 01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:49,240 Speaker 2: a tough test for drickis. Yeah, I like it. I 1976 01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:49,880 Speaker 2: like it all right? 1977 01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,559 Speaker 1: All right? Are you moved at all by UFC two 1978 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:58,720 Speaker 1: eighty three adding Thiago Moysis versus Milk Costa or the 1979 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:02,880 Speaker 1: February second edition for UFC of Nurileio Aliev making the 1980 01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:04,839 Speaker 1: debut against Tafel Alves. 1981 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,680 Speaker 2: I don't think you Elvis a little bit. I like 1982 01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:08,479 Speaker 2: haf Al Alvis. 1983 01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,719 Speaker 1: Okay, I got two that you're gonna like though. March 1984 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,000 Speaker 1: eighteenth is UFC two eighty six. How about Gooner Nelson 1985 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:20,040 Speaker 1: versus Daniel Rodriguez, d rod and Jennifer Maya versus King 1986 01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,760 Speaker 1: Casey O'Neill. That's a sneaky one too, Luke. 1987 01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,320 Speaker 2: Both of those are pretty good. Gunnar Nelson kind of 1988 01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,479 Speaker 2: a forgotten player at Welson Watt gears to see what 1989 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,519 Speaker 2: he's got back. Daniel Rodriguez, I think, obviously is this 1990 01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,080 Speaker 2: would be in many ways beating Gunner might be the 1991 01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:36,479 Speaker 2: best win of his career. I mean you could say 1992 01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,000 Speaker 2: the Leach or something in terms of the rankings or whatever. Yeah, 1993 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,200 Speaker 2: but I think Gunner would actually be a more impressive one. 1994 01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:44,520 Speaker 1: That fight's gonna be a war. 1995 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be. And by the way, Gunner can 1996 01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:47,559 Speaker 2: strike on the feet too. Remember he's got that kind 1997 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:49,439 Speaker 2: of in and out wonder boy karate style. 1998 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:53,160 Speaker 1: So oh he'll take damage too. He'll welcome damage and 1999 01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,240 Speaker 1: just fight through it. I mean, damn, speaking of damage. 2000 01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,960 Speaker 1: March twenty fifth, are we gonna see it when Nathan 2001 01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,840 Speaker 1: trained land Where takes on Alex Casaris Luke, There's gonna 2002 01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:04,200 Speaker 1: be some fireworks. 2003 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:10,600 Speaker 2: Right, Cassarus is massively improved. Nate Landwir is an absolute maniac. 2004 01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,240 Speaker 2: Hard to know how that one goes poorly? I'm not 2005 01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:16,720 Speaker 2: sure who's gonna win exactly, but that one is hard. 2006 01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:20,280 Speaker 2: I mean, how is that one anything other than all action? 2007 01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:21,920 Speaker 2: For as long as it lasts. 2008 01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:27,280 Speaker 1: Right, somebody's gonna end up with a tattoo Luke afterwards? Probably, probably, probably. 2009 01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's a good guess. April eighth, UFC two 2010 01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,480 Speaker 1: eighty seven gonna give us Cynthia Calvio versus Lupy Godinez. 2011 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,679 Speaker 1: I know, that's not moving you, Luke, and also much 2012 01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,600 Speaker 1: how about this Bellatoor Paris is gonna go down? May twelfth, 2013 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:46,600 Speaker 1: gay Guard Musasi versus Fabian Edwards at middleweight and the 2014 01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,200 Speaker 1: co main event is a first round matchup in the 2015 01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,760 Speaker 1: Bellatour at Lightweight World Grand Prix when Sydney Outlaw takes 2016 01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:56,960 Speaker 1: on Monsur Barnawi. Yeah, I'm in I'm in there in Paris, 2017 01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:57,479 Speaker 1: let's do it. 2018 01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that one. Never, I mean beating Leota 2019 01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,400 Speaker 2: Machita got to this level and Musasi losing to Johnny Eblin, 2020 01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:06,479 Speaker 2: it kind of puts them on a collision course. And 2021 01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:10,000 Speaker 2: then again, I mean, I don't know, I don't know 2022 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,639 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen with man Sewer Bornowi, but he looks 2023 01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,120 Speaker 2: to be very, very tough. I think he's gonna beat 2024 01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:17,719 Speaker 2: Sydney out Law. I'm telling you, man, that dude manswear Bornowi, 2025 01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,759 Speaker 2: he's gonna He's He's one to watch in this tournament 2026 01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:21,280 Speaker 2: for sure. 2027 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:25,040 Speaker 1: So Fabian Edwards is Leon Edwards, his brother correct? 2028 01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,080 Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, he's bigger obviously as well. 2029 01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,559 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's gonna have his moment here, Luke. Maybe 2030 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:34,200 Speaker 1: all right, hey kick bang topic six. Look we got 2031 01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,160 Speaker 1: six topics this week. Wow, how about a couple of 2032 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,280 Speaker 1: quick hitters. On the way out, Eric Knixck talked to 2033 01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,719 Speaker 1: MMA Fighting to update. Of course, one of our favorite 2034 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,759 Speaker 1: coaches there couture Mma right Luke Las Vegas. Eric Knixic 2035 01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:51,240 Speaker 1: love that guy. Updating the Jones versus Inghanu heavyweight title talks. 2036 01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,960 Speaker 1: Of course, Nick sick with in Ganu camp. The quote is, 2037 01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,080 Speaker 1: I think it's fifty to fifty to be honest with 2038 01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,599 Speaker 1: you when you're talking business and timeline. I'm confident from 2039 01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,559 Speaker 1: what I saw from Francis a couple weeks ago that 2040 01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,680 Speaker 1: if we had to be ready for March, I think 2041 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:05,680 Speaker 1: we can get him ready. But I think this is 2042 01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,800 Speaker 1: cutting it a little bit short because he had to 2043 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,320 Speaker 1: go back home and renew his visa, and then obviously 2044 01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:13,479 Speaker 1: they still haven't announced anything yet with his contract and 2045 01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,800 Speaker 1: where they're at. So it's fifty to fifty for me, Luke. 2046 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,360 Speaker 1: He He went on to say other things related to this, 2047 01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:22,880 Speaker 1: but then cerrihl Gone got involved and tweeted the picture 2048 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,280 Speaker 1: of John Jones saying, where are you at, Johnny Bones? 2049 01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm free this March Vegas end quote update? So to 2050 01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:34,000 Speaker 1: update here the champion is Francis and Ghanu, but he 2051 01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:37,360 Speaker 1: has yet to complete the new contract. Everything's still up 2052 01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:40,720 Speaker 1: in the air. So if he can't go for John 2053 01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:44,640 Speaker 1: Jones's debut, I'm sure Stepe is involved somewhere in this conversation. 2054 01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,519 Speaker 1: But could we see John Jones versus Ceril Gonn for 2055 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,200 Speaker 1: the interim title? Luke this this you know, late winter spring? 2056 01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:52,640 Speaker 1: Who would have? 2057 01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:56,519 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean obviously everyone wants John versus Francis, right, Okay, 2058 01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,639 Speaker 2: So I mean that's that's a given. But your question 2059 01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,679 Speaker 2: is what if we can't get that? Who on earth 2060 01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:06,720 Speaker 2: would be against John Jones versus Cyril gone? Right? And 2061 01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:10,559 Speaker 2: for the interim title too, Like who who? How how 2062 01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:14,360 Speaker 2: spoiled as a fan would do? Are an observer media 2063 01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:16,560 Speaker 2: whoever to look at that and be like, yeah, I 2064 01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:18,720 Speaker 2: don't want that? Why would you not want that? That's 2065 01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,360 Speaker 2: a that's a very difficult test for John Jones. And 2066 01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,280 Speaker 2: you might say, well, John can just out wrestle him again. 2067 01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,040 Speaker 2: There's a lot of questions about John at this level, 2068 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,160 Speaker 2: and Cyril makes good decisions. I'm sure he's working on 2069 01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,719 Speaker 2: his wrestling. He's very hard to hurt, he's very hard 2070 01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,800 Speaker 2: to touch, He's built for five rounds, no problem. Maybe 2071 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,639 Speaker 2: you favor John to win that one, maybe you don't. 2072 01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,320 Speaker 2: That's up to you. But like, is that an intriguing 2073 01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,599 Speaker 2: fight that most, I think educated observers would want to see? 2074 01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:45,000 Speaker 2: Of course it is. Yeah, let's if Francis isn't ready 2075 01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:47,519 Speaker 2: or he's not gonna be at his best. Okay, this 2076 01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:51,000 Speaker 2: to me is a very good consolation prize. If that 2077 01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:51,679 Speaker 2: one goes away. 2078 01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:56,040 Speaker 1: I wonder if Bong got mean, if I'm saying that correctly, 2079 01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:59,360 Speaker 1: it will be in the corner of naserdine Imovov, his 2080 01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:03,800 Speaker 1: his teammates on so I hope he does. Hope there's 2081 01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:05,839 Speaker 1: a media scrum. I hope we get some more information. 2082 01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:08,639 Speaker 1: I mean, look, somebody's gotta fight John Jones for the debut. 2083 01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:10,800 Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be for the interim title, no matter 2084 01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,040 Speaker 1: who it is. Let's do it. Let's get this done. 2085 01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, let's get this done. Let's do this. 2086 01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,240 Speaker 1: You want good pr announce this stuff right now? All right, 2087 01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,800 Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna be talking about. John Jones coming back, 2088 01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,200 Speaker 1: believe it. Two quick boxing notes on the way out. 2089 01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,120 Speaker 1: Luke Naioa in a way, The Monster, the Pomper pound king, 2090 01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:32,200 Speaker 1: the undisputed bantam waight champion, has officially vacated all four 2091 01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:35,479 Speaker 1: of his titles one twenty two is next? What that means? 2092 01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:38,520 Speaker 1: Like we talk about could he fight Mr John Akmadaliev 2093 01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:40,720 Speaker 1: for two of the world titles. Wouldn't hate that? Could 2094 01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:41,920 Speaker 1: he fight Stephen Fulton Junior? 2095 01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:42,240 Speaker 2: Could he? 2096 01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:45,479 Speaker 1: I mean there's some there's some possibilities here. Can't wait 2097 01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,639 Speaker 1: to see where the monster goes and shirkers Stevenson, Luke, 2098 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:52,160 Speaker 1: this is interesting for the larger lightweight title picture. Okay, 2099 01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,000 Speaker 1: Dravante is gonna face Ryan Garcia for the secondary belt. 2100 01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:59,479 Speaker 1: Devin Hainey, the undisputed champion probably fighting Vasili Lomachenko next 2101 01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,559 Speaker 1: and can't wait for that. But chaquer Stevenson has just 2102 01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,600 Speaker 1: moved up to lightweight. The two division champion is finalizing 2103 01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:10,280 Speaker 1: in April eighth bout against shoot Shuzero Yoshino, who I 2104 01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:12,680 Speaker 1: don't know a ton about, but is the is in 2105 01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,800 Speaker 1: line here in the WBC rankings. The winner is the 2106 01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:20,559 Speaker 1: number one mandatory contender for Devin Haney. So Luke, lightweight 2107 01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,280 Speaker 1: title picture coming together? Dude, yes, right. 2108 01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:27,840 Speaker 2: Yes, uh yeah, but again I just don't wonder. I 2109 01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,760 Speaker 2: mean if you don't know who much about Schuechiro Yoshino. 2110 01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:33,360 Speaker 2: How does anybody like, well. 2111 01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:36,680 Speaker 1: This this is boxing, Luke so Karen Chuka Jin ends up. 2112 01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:38,920 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know what I'm saying like this. 2113 01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,360 Speaker 2: You're right, you're right. But boxing does have this weird 2114 01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:43,200 Speaker 2: thing where that when the system works the way it's 2115 01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:46,320 Speaker 2: supposed to. Were like someone is a mandatory and you 2116 01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,080 Speaker 2: never heard of them, but they're actually really good and 2117 01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,040 Speaker 2: that mandatory slot gets them to fight they ordinarily would 2118 01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,040 Speaker 2: never have get gotten and then they win. You're like, 2119 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:55,720 Speaker 2: oh shit, like the system worked. I don't know that 2120 01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,160 Speaker 2: Yoshino is going to be Checker Stevenson. He seems to 2121 01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:02,679 Speaker 2: be like extremely good. But you know, the system works 2122 01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:04,400 Speaker 2: the way it does. People are supposed to get opportunities 2123 01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:06,559 Speaker 2: based on how they win in the ranking, so God 2124 01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:07,040 Speaker 2: bless them. 2125 01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,439 Speaker 1: Remember remember Teo Femo on the on the Initial Rise 2126 01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:13,040 Speaker 1: had that like number one contender fight it with against 2127 01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:14,920 Speaker 1: the Japanese guy who I can never remember his name, 2128 01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,360 Speaker 1: and like that was the night Katani, yes Na Katani, 2129 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,840 Speaker 1: And that was the night that like backstage, right before 2130 01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:24,080 Speaker 1: he walked to the ring, his mom's here in DC. Yeah, 2131 01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:26,080 Speaker 1: his mom and sister got into a fight with his 2132 01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,439 Speaker 1: fiance who's now his wife, and like he had a 2133 01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,880 Speaker 1: horrible night, and like you could, you could run into trouble. 2134 01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:34,599 Speaker 1: And that's why, like you said, when the system works, 2135 01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,599 Speaker 1: but the problem is that nobody believes in the system 2136 01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,800 Speaker 1: on a one hundred percent, you know, up and up level. 2137 01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,200 Speaker 1: We see far too many more times where that guy 2138 01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,960 Speaker 1: you never heard of, who beat no one you've ever 2139 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,400 Speaker 1: heard of and has never fought outside of that country, 2140 01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,160 Speaker 1: that you've barely heard of, is suddenly in a title 2141 01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:52,960 Speaker 1: fight on like pay per view in the States, you know, 2142 01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,760 Speaker 1: and you're like, how did we get here? He's not 2143 01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:59,120 Speaker 1: of this level. Like, yeah, there's a few of those too. Anyway, Luke, 2144 01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,639 Speaker 1: as we head into this weekend to fights Tonight one 2145 01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,920 Speaker 1: UFC Tomorrow Night Boxing as well, we want you to 2146 01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,200 Speaker 1: be on the lookout, fans, because we got a great sponsor, 2147 01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:09,559 Speaker 1: money Lion. You may have heard of this thing we're 2148 01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,920 Speaker 1: doing with them called the Hammer of the Month, where 2149 01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:16,639 Speaker 1: you the fans watching looking for fighters on the undercard, 2150 01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:19,120 Speaker 1: fighters that kick off the main card home or may 2151 01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,479 Speaker 1: not be getting the respect they deserve, but yet have 2152 01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 1: had a breakthrough performance and jump through their TV screen 2153 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,639 Speaker 1: into your living room and made you go hashtag holy 2154 01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:34,120 Speaker 1: hammer right or hashtag hammer of the month. Yeah. Let 2155 01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:37,679 Speaker 1: your voice be heard on social media by adding money 2156 01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:41,360 Speaker 1: Lion on Twitter at money Lion Inc. On Instagram. Use 2157 01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,759 Speaker 1: those hashtags. Make your pick, or scan that QR code 2158 01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,400 Speaker 1: and the screen in the corner, or go to the 2159 01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:51,200 Speaker 1: address moneyline dot com slash Morning Combat. You can vote. 2160 01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,519 Speaker 1: You can read more about this great contest. But you 2161 01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:57,080 Speaker 1: know so far what we've done. Aaron Blanchefield in December 2162 01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:03,120 Speaker 1: earn November December saw Ilia Tua finish Bryce Mitchell dominantly 2163 01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:06,800 Speaker 1: or just destroy him and get that hammer, Luke, that 2164 01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:11,719 Speaker 1: hot Hammer of the Month trophy, the physical shaft, the hammer. 2165 01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,160 Speaker 1: It's up for grabs right now in January twenty twenty three, 2166 01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:17,760 Speaker 1: so you better be on the lookout. Is it royman Via? 2167 01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,040 Speaker 1: Did he get his hand on that thing? Luke? Did 2168 01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:21,760 Speaker 1: he touch the shaft? 2169 01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:23,200 Speaker 2: He might? 2170 01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:26,519 Speaker 1: Who this weekend? Luke? 2171 01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:26,640 Speaker 2: Who? 2172 01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,240 Speaker 1: Who's a potential hammer that you're looking at this weekend? 2173 01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:30,520 Speaker 2: Javid Basharat? 2174 01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yo, Bashara, you want to grab this hammer? You 2175 01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:35,360 Speaker 1: know what to do this weekend? 2176 01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,200 Speaker 2: Telling you that kid's talented, man, I mean, he's got 2177 01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,320 Speaker 2: a tough fight on his hands, but that kid can fight. 2178 01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:40,479 Speaker 2: Believe that. 2179 01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:45,280 Speaker 1: Dude, we need to like, do you think we are okay? 2180 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,280 Speaker 1: We were able to give Aaron Blanchfield the hammer, the 2181 01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:49,200 Speaker 1: money line hammer in person when she was there for 2182 01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:51,880 Speaker 1: room service diaries. I'm still trying to find out is 2183 01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:53,959 Speaker 1: the hammer in puto porious possession? 2184 01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:54,639 Speaker 2: Dude? 2185 01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:56,840 Speaker 1: Do we need to go cornball this up and do 2186 01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:00,000 Speaker 1: like a full night presentation of handing off the hammer 2187 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:01,960 Speaker 1: or to whoever it is, and that it should always 2188 01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,280 Speaker 1: be done in person? Luke, I mean, should we really 2189 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,280 Speaker 1: go after this or is that enough? That's cheesy? 2190 01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:08,400 Speaker 2: I think you can only go after that if we 2191 01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:09,599 Speaker 2: can get showtime to pay. 2192 01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,240 Speaker 1: All right, all right, because I'll dress up like a king, Luke, 2193 01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:14,240 Speaker 1: like the king. 2194 01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:18,360 Speaker 2: I am right, you're a king. 2195 01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:24,519 Speaker 1: Yeah of wishful thinking. Oh wow, we'll play there on 2196 01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:31,640 Speaker 1: that transition. Everybody, Luke, you know, has their favorite and 2197 01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:33,920 Speaker 1: sometimes they don't like us for whatever reasons. And sometimes 2198 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,120 Speaker 1: they hear us sash into a microphone that is, I'm 2199 01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:38,720 Speaker 1: the king of Connecticut. Thank you Long Island, Luke for 2200 01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,679 Speaker 1: saying that You're damn right, I am, Luke. We offer 2201 01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,120 Speaker 1: them a chance every Friday with this closing segment that 2202 01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:47,639 Speaker 1: could be pedantic and bullshit, but this is like, this 2203 01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:51,439 Speaker 1: is like having accountability. This is like having an ambudsman, right, 2204 01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,800 Speaker 1: Mikey Mormles are armbudsmen. And he fields all these complaints 2205 01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,760 Speaker 1: through the email address of Morning Coombat at gmail dot 2206 01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,559 Speaker 1: com because you to say something that you just didn't 2207 01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,040 Speaker 1: agree with, or you didn't like, or maybe you just 2208 01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:05,880 Speaker 1: want to have a chance to have your voice heard 2209 01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:16,080 Speaker 1: to roast our white asses. All right, well it's time 2210 01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:26,880 Speaker 1: for dead wrong lo lose you hear that pregnant pause. 2211 01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:27,760 Speaker 1: It was like hitting a gong? 2212 01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:30,720 Speaker 2: Was it? Like? 2213 01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:33,800 Speaker 1: It's like making music with your emotions? Luke, you know 2214 01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:37,320 Speaker 1: great stuff, all right, Luke Edgar sliding in, he says. 2215 01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,599 Speaker 1: On episode three ninety six, Luke stated, regarding Kaitlyn Vieira, 2216 01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:45,800 Speaker 1: she has her problems. We saw her get stopped against Kunitskaya. No, 2217 01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,959 Speaker 1: we did not, Sir. Vieta lost the decision despite maintaining 2218 01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,160 Speaker 1: top position for large portions of the fight. Shit as 2219 01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:57,439 Speaker 1: Kunitskaya impressively overworked her from the bottom. And don't you 2220 01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:58,640 Speaker 1: ever fucking forget it? 2221 01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair point for him. 2222 01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:04,200 Speaker 1: Damn Edgar dropping dropping the macho man, elbow on you. 2223 01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:04,720 Speaker 1: I love that. 2224 01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, all right, I'll take that out. I'll take 2225 01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:07,599 Speaker 2: all right. 2226 01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:10,280 Speaker 1: We got one more. This one's from JP. You know him, 2227 01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,360 Speaker 1: J Piquett Mountain Nike, Nova Scotia. 2228 01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:15,080 Speaker 2: Good day, MKNA needs some hobbies, you know what I mean? 2229 01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's coming to the UK February eighth. Luke, we 2230 01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,559 Speaker 1: are his hobby, all right, I see that? 2231 01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:24,559 Speaker 2: Holy shit, he. 2232 01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:28,479 Speaker 1: Says, Good day mk Nation episode three ninety five, at 2233 01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:31,519 Speaker 1: the nine minute mark, BC made reference to JP having 2234 01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:37,360 Speaker 1: some saucy memes. Not dead wrong, pretty accurate actually. But 2235 01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:40,720 Speaker 1: what was totally dead wrong when he made reference to 2236 01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:44,600 Speaker 1: my Canadian province as the island of Scotia. BC, my 2237 01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:50,240 Speaker 1: long lost, forty plus year old Canadian French Canadian pos cousin. 2238 01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,760 Speaker 1: Did the French tortier pie, the meat pie from the 2239 01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:57,040 Speaker 1: holiday season? Rot your brain? My man? Nova Scotia is 2240 01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:00,160 Speaker 1: not an island, rather a peninsula, and is connected to 2241 01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:03,559 Speaker 1: the province of New Brunswick where Mockton resides. My Canadian 2242 01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,519 Speaker 1: brother and Aaron Bronstetter and I previously dead wrong to 2243 01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:08,920 Speaker 1: you and Luke on that one. When you come to 2244 01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,879 Speaker 1: visit the lake house, this summer will tour the province 2245 01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:15,400 Speaker 1: and take the boat out and correct your geography shortcomings. 2246 01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,080 Speaker 1: Love you guys, keep up the amazing award winning show 2247 01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:21,360 Speaker 1: super Fan for Life. It's JP Luke. He even gave 2248 01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:24,920 Speaker 1: a fan sub and put in meat pie here tortier 2249 01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,439 Speaker 1: about this island of Scotia. 2250 01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:28,920 Speaker 2: Mistake. 2251 01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:32,920 Speaker 1: So, Luke Thomas, do you care about Canadian geography? 2252 01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,439 Speaker 2: It's very American for me to tell you that I don't, 2253 01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:39,120 Speaker 2: so I'm trying not to be that guy. 2254 01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:41,519 Speaker 1: I mean, it looks like an island to me in 2255 01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:43,800 Speaker 1: that picture I got. Maybe it's the peninsula though it's 2256 01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,080 Speaker 1: like the end of the dong, right. 2257 01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the end of the it's the bell end 2258 01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:52,760 Speaker 2: wow thing. 2259 01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,439 Speaker 1: No, no, I hope I get called it bin man 2260 01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:56,479 Speaker 1: by our. 2261 01:47:56,400 --> 01:48:00,320 Speaker 2: British f What are some great British And it's a 2262 01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,040 Speaker 2: great question, right, So dawser is one? 2263 01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:08,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, been man? Uh you wanka. 2264 01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,840 Speaker 2: Wanker wankers, I mean, wanker's got to be number one 2265 01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:14,280 Speaker 2: British insult. But I won't want to say that. I 2266 01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:17,200 Speaker 2: went like to an American ear, like to an American ear. 2267 01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:21,240 Speaker 2: Wanker's pretty good, right, that's not bad? Yeah, but dude, 2268 01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,599 Speaker 2: they're gonna you know, would take. 2269 01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:27,160 Speaker 1: Up you know, within that Dead Wrong from JP. Luke. 2270 01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:29,120 Speaker 1: It seemed to be an invitation for you to come 2271 01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:30,519 Speaker 1: to his house and ride the boat. 2272 01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,120 Speaker 2: Let's see how things go in London first. JP is 2273 01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,960 Speaker 2: either just the nicest man on earth or absolutely he's 2274 01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:40,040 Speaker 2: gonna skin us alive and you know, hide our bones 2275 01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:41,320 Speaker 2: in his fucking basement. It's one. 2276 01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,320 Speaker 1: Is this a Canadian remake of Deliverance? Luke? And this 2277 01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:48,880 Speaker 1: is just a long like trap like we're just you know, yeah, yeah, 2278 01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:49,559 Speaker 1: good look. 2279 01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:53,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, come see my cabin in the woods. This you'll 2280 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:54,639 Speaker 2: never see MK again. 2281 01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so we can. This has been a long 2282 01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:58,640 Speaker 1: play to get you to squeal like a pig. I 2283 01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:00,960 Speaker 1: mean I you know, I can't and say, Luke. While 2284 01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,639 Speaker 1: it's disgusting, you know it's it is well a well 2285 01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:05,559 Speaker 1: made plan up to this point. So thank you guys. 2286 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,799 Speaker 1: That's the end of the Dead Wrong segment Morning Combat 2287 01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:11,360 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com, Mikey Morms is waiting for you, 2288 01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:14,040 Speaker 1: all right, say hi to him. Okay, there you go, 2289 01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,160 Speaker 1: uh Luke, that's our show for the week, and we 2290 01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:19,599 Speaker 1: did want to, you know, shamelessly plug one final time 2291 01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:21,840 Speaker 1: that if you are going to join the Piquettes on 2292 01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:25,120 Speaker 1: this cross atlantic flight. It does go down February eighth. 2293 01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:28,360 Speaker 1: That's a Wednesday night. King's Place is the venue in 2294 01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,879 Speaker 1: the King's Court section of London. It's a podcast festival 2295 01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,880 Speaker 1: called pod Live, brought to you by the Sports Podcast Group. 2296 01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:38,320 Speaker 1: They named us best sports podcast of twenty twenty two. 2297 01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:41,720 Speaker 1: Holy crap, right, They put us on billboards in Liverpool, 2298 01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:44,200 Speaker 1: in London. But we're gonna be in London because MK 2299 01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:48,400 Speaker 1: is coming to the UK. Ninety minutes, A variety and fun. 2300 01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:52,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna have some big name fight related fighters, fight relate. 2301 01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:56,799 Speaker 1: I mean this big. It's pretty damn big. It's big. Okay, 2302 01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:59,040 Speaker 1: we're big in the UK. Who would have thought, right, 2303 01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:01,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? This one eighth Irish kid 2304 01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:04,080 Speaker 1: with the Scottish last name who's been adopted by the 2305 01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:08,720 Speaker 1: Welsh and just wants all of his family to get along, right, 2306 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,519 Speaker 1: My family in Ireland, my family in the UK. If 2307 01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:18,040 Speaker 1: only someone had an idea, Luke, That's really what this 2308 01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:19,240 Speaker 1: live show is about. 2309 01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:23,000 Speaker 2: People are wondering how off the rails this live show 2310 01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:24,280 Speaker 2: is going to be. What can you tell them? 2311 01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:28,840 Speaker 1: Well, there are standards right, for example, like, this isn't 2312 01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:32,200 Speaker 1: just like hey, Luke and Brian rent at a venue 2313 01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:33,439 Speaker 1: when we're just going to do our show. 2314 01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:38,640 Speaker 2: We're actually headlining a podcast festival. It's actually their festival, 2315 01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:42,040 Speaker 2: but it's our shows. So there are some limits about 2316 01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:44,720 Speaker 2: you know, BC dropping his dungarees to his ankles and 2317 01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:45,360 Speaker 2: then just showing up. 2318 01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:48,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we'll BC go hog wild. No, you 2319 01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,080 Speaker 1: know you will not be you know it will not 2320 01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:53,320 Speaker 1: be that level, Luke. But Luke, if the local DA 2321 01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,000 Speaker 1: gets removed it all leading up to this, would you 2322 01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:55,720 Speaker 1: can say not going. 2323 01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:58,479 Speaker 2: I don't even know what that What does that mean? 2324 01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:01,280 Speaker 1: For safety purposes, that's all that means. But no, I'm 2325 01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:04,160 Speaker 1: excited to be there. This ninety minute show could be wild. 2326 01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:05,600 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll be boring. I don't know. It's up to you. 2327 01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,880 Speaker 1: Got to find out. It will not air live though, 2328 01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,639 Speaker 1: I hope, Luke, we can put a later the plan. 2329 01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:13,040 Speaker 2: The plans we're gonna record it like in London in 2330 01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,840 Speaker 2: the evening there and then that will air on that 2331 01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,880 Speaker 2: following Friday, Okay, a couple days later. 2332 01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, And we're gonna shoot a lot of 2333 01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:24,040 Speaker 1: bonus content out there. We're gonna we're gonna film a 2334 01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:26,160 Speaker 1: doc So this is gonna be wild. But if you 2335 01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,679 Speaker 1: want to take part in person, you see that QR 2336 01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,880 Speaker 1: code check out. You'll get more information there scan that ship. 2337 01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:34,160 Speaker 2: I do have one question, and it's not for me, 2338 01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:36,400 Speaker 2: it's for a friend of mine that I know really well. 2339 01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:38,639 Speaker 2: Can you get Delta aight's in the UK? 2340 01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:43,800 Speaker 1: How much does your friend pay for a haircut? Luke? 2341 01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:44,880 Speaker 1: That'll help me narrow it down. 2342 01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:49,559 Speaker 2: I mean, if what haircuts go for in in Naugata, Connecticut, 2343 01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:51,400 Speaker 2: about about what that would cost? 2344 01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,640 Speaker 1: Man. I do miss those days of getting like, you know, 2345 01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:58,040 Speaker 1: ten dollars haircuts in the inner city, Luke. It'd be 2346 01:51:58,080 --> 01:51:58,679 Speaker 1: like a drug deal. 2347 01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:02,200 Speaker 2: They'd be by you are Hime Escalante. You're gonna go 2348 01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:03,000 Speaker 2: down there and take. 2349 01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:06,360 Speaker 1: I bought some of those DVDs out of that gym bag. 2350 01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:09,400 Speaker 1: I bought the pirated Wedding Crashers where some guy went 2351 01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,280 Speaker 1: into a movie theater with a camera with Luke and 2352 01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:12,439 Speaker 1: just recorded it. 2353 01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:12,600 Speaker 2: You know. 2354 01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:13,559 Speaker 1: I bought that dvd. 2355 01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:16,760 Speaker 2: Okay, I definitely saw a rush hour that way. That's 2356 01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:17,679 Speaker 2: a real thing I did. 2357 01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:20,560 Speaker 1: No, No, it's gonna be a great It's gonna be 2358 01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:22,840 Speaker 1: a great event. All I know. A few people are 2359 01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:24,840 Speaker 1: starting to out themselves that they're coming Luke, and I'm 2360 01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:26,439 Speaker 1: just so excited for anybody that can do it. I 2361 01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:27,800 Speaker 1: know it's not easy. It's the middle of the week. 2362 01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,160 Speaker 1: You got work. You may you may have to fly there. 2363 01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:32,360 Speaker 1: You may not be allowed in the country, Dave, Okay, 2364 01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:34,599 Speaker 1: all right, good luck to you. But you know, there's 2365 01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,760 Speaker 1: a there's a It means a lot to us. It 2366 01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:38,720 Speaker 1: may be the only time that we crossed that. I've 2367 01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:41,200 Speaker 1: never been there. I've literally never been Luke outside of 2368 01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:41,879 Speaker 1: North America. 2369 01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:44,120 Speaker 2: All Right, dude, it's gonna be It's funny because I mean, 2370 01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:47,679 Speaker 2: they speak English. It's not like you know you it's 2371 01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:50,400 Speaker 2: a true change. But you might have a bit of 2372 01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:52,160 Speaker 2: a culture shock out there. Also. I will give you 2373 01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:55,479 Speaker 2: a piece of advice, yo, this doesn't This is gonna 2374 01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:57,200 Speaker 2: sound kind of crazy. And I don't know if it's 2375 01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,479 Speaker 2: true when the Brits come here, but it's definitely true 2376 01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:04,120 Speaker 2: when Americans go there. Dude, fucking look both ways before 2377 01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:06,240 Speaker 2: you cross the street. You are not going to be 2378 01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,519 Speaker 2: used to the traffic patterns and how they come the 2379 01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:12,639 Speaker 2: opposite direction basically, And I'm telling you, like I remember 2380 01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:15,360 Speaker 2: the first time I went, people were like, yo, just 2381 01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:18,120 Speaker 2: just listen to me. Look both ways. There were several 2382 01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:20,479 Speaker 2: times I stopped myself from just getting plowed by a 2383 01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:24,200 Speaker 2: fucking bus by actually making sure to do this number 2384 01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:26,680 Speaker 2: before I did. And I'll tell you we won't go 2385 01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,479 Speaker 2: this time. But in Amsterdam, motherfucker, you have to dodge 2386 01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:31,400 Speaker 2: bikes when you're walking down the street there, like you're 2387 01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:35,040 Speaker 2: playing Frogger with your life. It's insane. How much just 2388 01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,880 Speaker 2: ah busyness. But dude, I'm the's It'll be a bit 2389 01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:38,800 Speaker 2: of a culture shock for you. 2390 01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,840 Speaker 1: But dude, I'm gonna I'm gonna dominate some crisps luke. 2391 01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that British food. I'm not looking forward to. It's shit. 2392 01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:48,639 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry to tell you this way. 2393 01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:50,519 Speaker 1: This is a bit. You know they're coming for you 2394 01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:51,960 Speaker 1: with pitch for you. 2395 01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:54,000 Speaker 2: Do you think I'm playing with this. You're about to 2396 01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:55,720 Speaker 2: find out the hard way. I'm not doing a bit. 2397 01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:56,519 Speaker 2: It's not good. 2398 01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:58,600 Speaker 1: I do have people DM me and say can we 2399 01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:00,880 Speaker 1: smoke in the venue. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm not. 2400 01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, don't bring your bong. I would 2401 01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:04,439 Speaker 1: say no, but you know it's probably not. 2402 01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:08,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, I had I had a uber, like like 2403 01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:11,160 Speaker 2: late last year when I was still vaping and before 2404 01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:12,439 Speaker 2: I got into like, I hit a couple while they 2405 01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:13,960 Speaker 2: put in my pocket. He's like, Ah, you can just 2406 01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,760 Speaker 2: vape in the car, and I'm like, I don't think 2407 01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,519 Speaker 2: that's a good idea for either of us. Quite candidly, so. 2408 01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:23,360 Speaker 1: Is there anything worse than arriving in Vegas completely messed 2409 01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:26,120 Speaker 1: up from the flight and the old guy taxi like 2410 01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:29,160 Speaker 1: is trying to aggressively sell you on the Gentleman's Club, 2411 01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:31,080 Speaker 1: Luke that offers things beyond the scenes that you didn't 2412 01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:33,280 Speaker 1: even think they did, and it's like not taking no 2413 01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,000 Speaker 1: for an answer, and you're like, dude, just drop me 2414 01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:37,440 Speaker 1: off at the MGM Grand so I can walk through 2415 01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:40,440 Speaker 1: that those aisles of hell to get to my room, 2416 01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:42,040 Speaker 1: and it's just you know, stops. 2417 01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:46,360 Speaker 2: My favorite, my favorite of of of of Vegas is 2418 01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:48,000 Speaker 2: like at two or three in the morning when you're 2419 01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:50,920 Speaker 2: coming back from the fights, when you're done working, is 2420 01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:56,200 Speaker 2: seeing all of the shoeless uh what do you call it? Girls? 2421 01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,760 Speaker 2: Girls weekends, bachelorette parties. Yeah, where they're shoeless and they 2422 01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:02,720 Speaker 2: just look like they've been ridden hard and put away wet, you. 2423 01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:04,160 Speaker 1: Know, oh, okay, okay, all right. 2424 01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:06,360 Speaker 2: I mean we just know it's an expression from. 2425 01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:08,800 Speaker 1: I got a few expressions I could have said, too, Luke. 2426 01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:09,880 Speaker 1: But I'm trying to keep the show up. 2427 01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:12,120 Speaker 2: A they look terrible, is the point I'm trying to make. 2428 01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:16,000 Speaker 2: I thought about this BC. If Showtime and CBS came 2429 01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:17,280 Speaker 2: to me and they were like, Okay, we have a 2430 01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,960 Speaker 2: deal for you. You never have to go to Las Vegas again, 2431 01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:23,440 Speaker 2: I might cry out of happiness. I might genuinely like 2432 01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:26,320 Speaker 2: well up with tears about not having to go back 2433 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:26,920 Speaker 2: there ever again. 2434 01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:30,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with that. I'm with that completely. What final 2435 01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:33,120 Speaker 1: question from me, Luke? This is not about life or 2436 01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:36,040 Speaker 1: travel or even the UK. Who do you think is 2437 01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:41,440 Speaker 1: going to be the announced team for Slaptick Combat? John 2438 01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:43,160 Speaker 1: Morgan on play by play? Would you be done with that? 2439 01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:45,600 Speaker 2: Is he doing play by play? 2440 01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I have not heard anything. I'm just trying 2441 01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:51,440 Speaker 1: to fantasy pick the broadcast team for slap Combat. Who. 2442 01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:54,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess it's your UFC. I'm gonna guess I'm 2443 01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:56,520 Speaker 2: not doing a bit. It's gonna be UFC fighters who 2444 01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:00,400 Speaker 2: are looking for more opportunities inside UFC and there to 2445 01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:02,040 Speaker 2: just do this to get ahead. 2446 01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:04,960 Speaker 1: And maybe like Brendan Fitzgerald as the voice. 2447 01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, something like it. By the way, who's great, Like 2448 01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:09,680 Speaker 2: I like Brendan Fitzgerald, but like, boy, you guys involved 2449 01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:13,440 Speaker 2: with the Slap League, y'all? Are do a lot for 2450 01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:15,560 Speaker 2: a check? Huh? Do a lot for a check? 2451 01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:18,640 Speaker 1: Hey? What if you know? Imagine if Showtime acquired the 2452 01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:21,280 Speaker 1: Slap League and then you had to eat your words. 2453 01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,080 Speaker 2: I don't think I would. I don't think I would. 2454 01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:26,960 Speaker 2: I don't think i'd have to go. I mean, okay, Showtime, 2455 01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,400 Speaker 2: are you watching this? If you guys acquire the Slap League, 2456 01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm not covering those events. Okay. 2457 01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:34,440 Speaker 1: By the way, that's probably the network the least likely 2458 01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:37,560 Speaker 1: to acquire the slap Stick League, you know. And they 2459 01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:39,440 Speaker 1: did have Red Shoe Diaries. It was a great franchise 2460 01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:41,640 Speaker 1: for a while on Showtime. Shout out to them, all right, 2461 01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:45,400 Speaker 1: that's our show. Yeah, I believe it was. Uh, this 2462 01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,800 Speaker 1: was a long island Luke, and in each production, shout 2463 01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:51,160 Speaker 1: out to Gaff who's always with us, Mikey Morrin's behind 2464 01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:52,880 Speaker 1: the scenes on the ones and twoes. Thank you all. 2465 01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,240 Speaker 1: I think you can follow us somewhere down there. Maybe 2466 01:56:56,280 --> 01:57:01,040 Speaker 1: right now, like subscribe. Look, I don't push the subscription 2467 01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:03,200 Speaker 1: thing a lot anymore, Luke, but we are making we are. 2468 01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:06,520 Speaker 1: There's gains. They've been pretty loyal, all right. We're slowly 2469 01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:11,080 Speaker 1: getting there, so please subscribe if you've been grazing. And 2470 01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:13,720 Speaker 1: for all you audio only peeps out there who are 2471 01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:17,640 Speaker 1: like grocery shopping or like you know, digging a ditch 2472 01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:19,720 Speaker 1: in your backyard to bury a body, and you're listening 2473 01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:21,640 Speaker 1: to us, shout out to you guys too. Okay, I 2474 01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:24,000 Speaker 1: preferred you watch us right. It's a visual thing, but 2475 01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:26,800 Speaker 1: you know you guys matter to us just the same 2476 01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,200 Speaker 1: Showtime does too. You can get thirty days free right 2477 01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:32,680 Speaker 1: now showtime dot Com. And then if you like it, 2478 01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:35,240 Speaker 1: and of course I think you will. They like boxing, 2479 01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:39,200 Speaker 1: you like BC, like MMA, like Cosby? Who doesn't like 2480 01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:44,400 Speaker 1: Bill Cosby? Great shows, great documentaries. Six months at three 2481 01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:48,280 Speaker 1: ninety nine, I know what things cost these days. It's 2482 01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:51,720 Speaker 1: a good deal. Okay, thank you, ag One Moneyline and 2483 01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:54,360 Speaker 1: all of our great friends, Luke Thomas, anything else you 2484 01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:56,120 Speaker 1: want to say. This is the best two hours of 2485 01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,160 Speaker 1: my week right now, the Friday. 2486 01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:02,680 Speaker 2: Show, Join me some more, bro, post Fight for the 2487 01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:07,600 Speaker 2: post Fight ufc Imavov versus Strickland event. I will join 2488 01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:09,360 Speaker 2: you as soon as that main event is over and 2489 01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:11,600 Speaker 2: we'll have some fun. Love it. 2490 01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:14,400 Speaker 1: Love you folks out there. Thank you. Take care of 2491 01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:18,520 Speaker 1: yourselves for Luke Thomas. My name is Brian Campbell, echoing 2492 01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:21,280 Speaker 1: what my co host says all the time about your gains. 2493 01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:23,640 Speaker 1: Better make sure those bitches are loyal.