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Speaker 2: So the fifteen of the ten ber He's Gonna score touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Reports.

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Speaker 2: Swim to the ground by Budda Baker Like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield, Connor to the ten,

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Speaker 2: to the five and end of the end zone of

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Speaker 3: Here we go one hand and catch it a touchdown?

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Speaker 4: Oh baby, how's that fail?

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Speaker 1: Here's Craiggriolou, Paul Calvic and three time pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch.

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Speaker 5: So it was never a matter of if, but win

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Speaker 5: and the wind happened Sunday unfortunately for the Cardinals. As

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Speaker 5: we said, good morning here on the Cardinals Red Zero Report,

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Speaker 5: presented by Seek Your Ticket to Great Seats, talking about

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Speaker 5: a thirty four to twenty loss to the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 5: on Sunday at State Farm Stadium, a game that was

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Speaker 5: close going into the fourth quarter of the Cardinals within

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Speaker 5: one score twenty four to twenty, but unfortunately, the Bengals

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Speaker 5: scored the game's final ten points and walked away with

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Speaker 5: the win, and the Cardinals are now one and four. Kyle,

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Speaker 5: your big takeaways from that game Obviously what Joe Burrow

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Speaker 5: was able to do, Jamar Chase able to do, and

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Speaker 5: the mobility of a Joe Burrow that we had not

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Speaker 5: seen through the first four games of the regular season.

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Speaker 3: Wire.

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Speaker 5: But more than that, what you saw out of those

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of things, right, I wish it's just timing.

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Speaker 6: Joe Burray was just a matter of time until he

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Speaker 6: got rolling, and he came out firing early, and it

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Speaker 6: was pretty obvious that he was that he was going

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Speaker 6: to go to Jamar Chase after, you know him talking

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Speaker 6: about always being open and seeming frustrated and not happy

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Speaker 6: with how things have gone.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: It's that's the hard part about that game, and I

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Speaker 6: know Jonathan Gannon talked about it. We're gonna get to

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Speaker 6: it later. But I think the defense did a good

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Speaker 6: job against Joe Mixon, who can also wreck a game.

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Speaker 6: T Higgins was out, so you knew that they were

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Speaker 6: gonna target Jamar Chase and they they certainly did Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 6: you know, where he looked like he could barely move

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Speaker 6: through four games, moved around in the pocket well, even

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Speaker 6: and unfortunately we just caught him a week too late,

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Speaker 6: you know. But you know, for the most part, just

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Speaker 6: watching the game and then rewatching it again, it didn't

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Speaker 6: feel like both offensively and defensively, the energy the execution

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Speaker 6: was quite the same as it had been. You know,

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Speaker 6: Josh Dobbs, while he did some really good things in

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Speaker 6: this game, some sometimes the ball fluttered out of his

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Speaker 4: I know, he's.

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Speaker 6: Taken responsibility for the turnovers. I don't necessarily think that

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Speaker 6: the turnovers were on him. There were some other things

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Speaker 6: But it just wasn't a clean game, and you know,

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Speaker 6: it just felt like some of the energy was sucked

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Speaker 6: it looks in the NFL. In today's NFL, fourteen points,

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Speaker 6: looks like you've got beat pretty bad. But with the

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Speaker 6: those two plays, you know, this Cardinals team is still

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Speaker 6: playing with a team and a Joe Burrow that.

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Speaker 4: Was was lighting them up and looked.

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Speaker 6: Like he was on and so you know, it's it's

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Speaker 6: at the same time, there's still a lot of work

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Speaker 5: More than three hundred passing yards for Joe Burrow, almost

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Speaker 5: two hundred of which went to Jamar Chase, Cardinals turned

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Speaker 5: and then you look what Kyle brought up Paul. As

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Speaker 5: far as the injury to James Connor, lost in that

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Speaker 5: Jalen Thompson at halftime, he didn't play at all in

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Speaker 5: the second half, and then word this morning, according to

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Speaker 5: ESPN's Adam Schefter, Connor is expected to miss quote several weeks. Now,

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Speaker 5: what does that mean? Does that mean that stinted on

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Speaker 7: It means you're now without the heart beat of the offense,

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Speaker 7: just like you've been without the heart beat of the

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Speaker 3: That's how valuable he is.

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Speaker 7: You have a two time Pro Bowl running back, a

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Speaker 3: He's irreplaceable.

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Speaker 7: You haven't no one with anywhere close of a resume

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Speaker 7: to with James Connor in that running back room. You

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Speaker 7: love the effort Mari de Mercado. He had the eleven

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Speaker 7: like a James Connor. He's not going to command and

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Speaker 7: the attention from a defense on the play action. They're

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Speaker 7: the fourth and one at the sixteen where Josh Dobbs

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Speaker 7: critical that is and that was decisive in this game.

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Speaker 7: The pick six and then you give up the sixty

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Speaker 7: which has been a persistent problem for this Cardinals team,

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Speaker 7: trying to execute it in the fourth quarter and losing

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Speaker 5: Cardinals have been outscored in the final fifteen minutes fifty

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Speaker 5: of James Connor as we continue here on Cardinals Redzeat

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Speaker 5: Report presented by see Gor Ticket the Great Seats. But

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Speaker 5: through five games head coach Jonathan Gannon his first five

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Speaker 5: wants it to be. It is one and four. What

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Speaker 8: What I'm looking for is consistently doing what your coach

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Speaker 8: we're doing that throughout the week, and then on game day.

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Speaker 8: You know, like I say all the time, you know,

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Speaker 4: If the ball.

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Speaker 8: Finds you when you're not, you know, then they make

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Speaker 5: Gannon postgame took a lot of the responsibility, which I'm

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Speaker 5: sure all of the players in that locker room appreciate.

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Speaker 5: It is about as visibly upset I've seen Gannon since

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Speaker 5: he's been here with the Arizona Cardinals. But again, this

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Speaker 5: is after five games at one and four. But as

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Speaker 5: I mentioned, going into that fourth quarter a one score

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Speaker 8: I mean, we're in the game. You know, you had

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Speaker 8: a chance to win the game in my opinion, you know,

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Speaker 8: But our guys fight. We're competitive right now and every

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Speaker 5: Competitive certainly is what you always want to see, Kyle,

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Speaker 5: but at the end, it is a results based business

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Speaker 5: and you want to be able to see those wins

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Speaker 5: then we're on board, but is it going to be

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it's playing well.

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Speaker 6: It was a common refrain up to this point and

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Speaker 6: You know, execution in the fourth quarter win. There's two

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Speaker 6: And you know, I understand trying to be aggressive. It

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Speaker 5: Goes back to play call versus play execution, because there

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Speaker 7: And you saw accountability with some of the lineup changes, right,

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Speaker 5: You hear Dave Pash on the play by play. Paul,

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Speaker 5: Great players are going to have great games, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 7: I mean in hindsight, and Antonio Hamilton at Kyle's point

439
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Speaker 7: is bigger, more physical. You know what about Antonio Hamilton

440
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Speaker 7: at the line of scrimmage against the Jamar Chase with

441
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Speaker 7: some help over the top, You know, he just waited

442
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Speaker 7: for a change to come over the course of the game,

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Speaker 7: and seemingly, you watched the film, I didn't see much

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Speaker 7: differently being done from the first quarter to the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 6: Right, And what was what is since Joe Burrow has

446
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Speaker 6: been in Cincinnati, what has been the Bengals' biggest weakness.

447
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Speaker 6: It's their protection, It's their offensive line. So you've got

448
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Speaker 6: to take away the quick answers, make him, you know,

449
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Speaker 6: give your pass rusher is an opportunity. And you know,

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Speaker 6: for the most part, the pass rush was pretty inconsistent

451
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Speaker 6: in this game. They did a couple of times throughout

452
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Speaker 6: the game, get some pressure, get some hits, but it

453
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Speaker 6: wasn't a constant pressure. The pocket wasn't collapsing on him.

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Speaker 6: One of the big stories coming into the game was

455
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Speaker 6: how everything was dink and dunk with this offense, and

456
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Speaker 6: the ball was coming out quickly. Well, he held the

457
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Speaker 6: ball longer this game than he had any of the

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Speaker 6: four previous games. And so you've got to do things

459
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Speaker 6: again to take away the quick answer, which is obviously

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Speaker 6: Jamar Chase and make this offensive line have to protect

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Speaker 6: longer than they're used to or longer than they're able to.

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Speaker 7: And you know what, I went through the locker room

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Speaker 7: during the game week because Tyler Boyd after the loss

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Speaker 7: to Tennessee and it was so one sided and the

465
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Speaker 7: Titans got home so often on the blitz, Tyler Boyd said, well,

466
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Speaker 7: we're getting blitzed all out all the time. If I

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Speaker 7: was a DC, I'd do the same thing, referring to

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Speaker 7: the injury to Joe Burrow. So I went around the

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Speaker 7: locker room Jeeves Dan blitz John Burrow all game because

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Speaker 7: that's not the Cardinals DNA. They had the lowest blitz

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Speaker 7: rating league coming in, and a couple of guys told me, well,

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Speaker 7: you can bring numbers, but beware because he's experienced enough

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Speaker 7: and he's accomplished enough as the highest paid player in

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Speaker 7: the NFL that you might end up like the Tom

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Speaker 7: Brady game last year, where the Cardinals brought the blitz

476
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Speaker 7: a lot. And what did Tom Brady do thank you,

477
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Speaker 7: because he can just read and diagnose the defense and

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Speaker 7: delivered immediately. Kurt Warner in his later years used to welcome,

479
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Speaker 7: used to beg teams to blitz him because he would

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Speaker 7: always find the open guy. And seemingly when the Cardinals

481
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Speaker 7: did blitz, they only got home once on one blitz

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Speaker 7: and all of the times Joe Burrow is like, Okay,

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Speaker 7: you're bringing numbers. I'm gonna find the open man.

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Speaker 5: And if you don't bring the numbers, then you have

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Speaker 5: Burrow standing in the pocket. And I don't care how

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Speaker 5: good of a defensive back you are, you cannot cover

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Speaker 5: an NFL wide receiver for a very long time. So, yeah,

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Speaker 5: what do you do when the head coach and the

489
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Speaker 5: defensive coordinator have shown that they are not going to blitz.

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Speaker 5: It's not something to Paul's words, their DNA. They don't

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Speaker 5: like to. But because this secondary Kyle doesn't really have

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Speaker 5: that number one shut down corner, do you have to

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Speaker 5: do something different to make up for the fact that

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Speaker 5: you lack talent in that secondary.

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Speaker 6: I think you do, and it just needs to be

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Speaker 6: well timed. Look, you don't need to blitz twenty times

497
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Speaker 6: a game, but you need to mix it up. You

498
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Speaker 6: need to give them different looks, you need to bring

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Speaker 6: guys from different angles just to at least get you know,

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Speaker 6: I always used to welcome the blitz, even though I

501
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Speaker 6: played on really good four man fronts. But when you

502
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Speaker 6: add a guy to the front and he's on the blitz,

503
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Speaker 6: you get one on ones across the board. That gives

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Speaker 6: your pass rushers an opportunity to get there as well.

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Speaker 6: So it just it didn't seem like they were putting

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Speaker 6: him under enough to rest. And sometimes it doesn't get home,

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Speaker 6: but at the very least you're putting in the back

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Speaker 6: of his head. Hey, they could be coming from any angle,

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Speaker 6: any direction. I don't know who's coming, but you know,

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Speaker 6: the way our DB's were playing kind of that soft coverage,

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Speaker 6: it was pretty apparent pre snap that nobody was coming

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Speaker 6: on a blitz unless it was a linebacker. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean, it would just been nice to mix it

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Speaker 6: up a little bit, sprinkle in a few blitzes, try

515
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Speaker 6: to heat it up a little bit and get some

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Speaker 6: more hits on Joe Burrow throughout the course of this game.

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Speaker 7: And here's the other thing we cited during the game

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Speaker 7: was that Jonathan Gannon told us on his TV show,

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Speaker 7: Zach Taylor, maybe the thing he does best is he's

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Speaker 7: really creative getting his playmakers into space in different ways.

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Speaker 7: And you saw Jamar Chase in different formations. A lot

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Speaker 7: of times he was in that trip's formation, three receivers

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Speaker 7: to one side or the other. He was the inside guy,

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Speaker 7: and so the other two receivers would run interference and

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Speaker 7: they would create room for a Jamar Chase, who then

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Speaker 7: would make the first man miss a lot. And that's

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Speaker 7: all they needed, quick throw and catch and then he

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Speaker 7: was his yards after the catch.

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Speaker 5: Whatever the Cardinals defense has been doing these past two weeks,

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Speaker 5: they need to figure out a different plan because between

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Speaker 5: Brock Party and Joe Burrow fifty six of sixty seven,

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Speaker 5: that's almost eighty four percent, six hundred receiving yards and

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals defense just one pass defense and that was

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Speaker 5: against the Bengals on Sunday. The Cardinals offense against the Bengals,

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Speaker 5: we'll touch on that next here on the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 5: Radio network.

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Speaker 3: Third and nine to the Cardinals, they go empty.

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Speaker 2: Tops in the gun from the twenty five were receivers

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Speaker 2: right to left snapped, the Dobbs drops.

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Speaker 3: Back, loves it deep right side pass on the money,

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Speaker 3: caught at the five, get into the end zone for

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Speaker 3: the touchdown. Hollywood Brown got by the DV. You could

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Speaker 3: not throw it any better then Josh.

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Speaker 2: Dob did right there and the Cardinals are on the board.

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Speaker 3: He dropped it right in the bucket, right in stride.

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Speaker 7: It fell right into the arms of Hollywood Brown and

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Speaker 7: he was able to finish.

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Speaker 3: And then he took it right into the Red Sea

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Speaker 3: and he leaped up into the crowd.

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Speaker 5: We that voice sounds familiar as we say, welcome back

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Speaker 5: to the Cardinals Red Seat report presented by Seat get

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Speaker 5: your ticket to great Seats. A beautiful play call and yes,

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Speaker 5: the analysis from our very own Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 7: I had the requisite seventeen cups of coffee. I was

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Speaker 7: doing my best ron wolfully up there nowhere close. I

556
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Speaker 7: was just bolstering Wolfe's job security, making everyone appreciate what

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Speaker 7: they didn't have on game day there. In fact, pass

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Speaker 7: really didn't need me. The Maestro himself could have carried

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Speaker 7: the entire thing. But I figured I'd give him a

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Speaker 7: blow here and there and let him catch his breath.

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Speaker 5: A thing of beauty, not only watching it live, but

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Speaker 5: listening to it with Patch and Calvic and then there

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Speaker 5: is a brand new view of that play. Azycardinals dot

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Speaker 5: Com on their social media channels just released the overhead

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Speaker 5: look of the pass and the catch, which is spectacular

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Speaker 5: because Kyle, you could not have put that ball in

567
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Speaker 5: any better location for Hollywood Brown to catch it and

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Speaker 5: catch it in stride.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a great throw, great catch.

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Speaker 6: You know, sometimes, well oftentimes josh Dobbs throws a really

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Speaker 6: nice ball and that that was one of those times

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Speaker 6: he put it in in the best spot possible. Hollywood

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Speaker 6: Brown caught it in stride. You know, quietly, Hollywood is

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Speaker 6: having a good season. I mean, his numbers don't jump

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Speaker 6: off the page with four catches, but you know, typically

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Speaker 6: he's dangerous with the ball in his hands, makes the

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Speaker 6: first guy miss. He had a short pass in the

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Speaker 6: fourth quarter where he made like two guys miss and

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Speaker 6: picked up the first down. He's he's really doing well,

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Speaker 6: and you know the concern, I know, we're probably gona

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Speaker 6: talk about this again. One of the things Joshua Dobbs

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Speaker 6: has done up to this point is his best throws

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Speaker 6: are on play action pass. Now, what is that gonna

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Speaker 6: look like? Without James Connor, will they have those opportunities

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Speaker 6: in the play action pass game without your thumper, without

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Speaker 6: your guy that you're leaning on to get those big yardage.

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Speaker 6: And again, you know it's not just James Connor with

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Speaker 6: his you know, pretty standard four or five yard runs

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Speaker 6: where he makes a guy miss or runs through an

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Speaker 6: arm tackle. His thirty five yard run in this game,

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Speaker 6: and I know Paul talked about it, it should have

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Speaker 6: been attackle for loss.

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Speaker 7: It was an.

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Speaker 6: Incredible individual play because it was not blocked well up front.

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Speaker 6: And that's what James Connor can give you, and that's

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Speaker 6: what's gonna be hard to replace in this offense.

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Speaker 5: The number one play action team going in to that

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Speaker 5: game against the Bengals, but you lose a James Connor, who,

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Speaker 5: according to reports, might miss several weeks with that knee injury.

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Speaker 5: Keyonta Ingram has missed the pass two games with a

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Speaker 5: neck injury. Cardinals did claim to Jones junior off waivers

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Speaker 5: from the Saints, a bigger back than in Keyonta Ingram

603
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Speaker 5: five to eleven to twenty four played earlier this season,

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Speaker 5: so he comes in having had a training camp plus

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Speaker 5: several games seventy carries seventy yards on twenty one carries

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Speaker 5: plus two touchdowns, and it does Paul reunite him with

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Speaker 5: his running backs coach at Notre Dame. Octrey Denson was

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Speaker 5: the Notre Dame running backs coach from twenty sixteen to

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Speaker 5: twenty eighteen when Jones, when James was there.

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Speaker 7: Well that's interesting stuff. And you know what, Look, you

611
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Speaker 7: got a Rams defensive line that other than Aaron Donald

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Speaker 7: has a lot of nobody's and if there's one an

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Speaker 7: adult to Aaron Donald, it's usually run right out number

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Speaker 7: ninety nine. And so, okay, you just can't give up

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Speaker 7: on the run game. You're top ten and so many metrics,

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Speaker 7: and I get it James Conner. No one has more

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Speaker 7: of an appreciation for James Conner than yours, truly, But

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Speaker 7: you just can't give up because, honestly, guys, if you

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Speaker 7: look at the position groups on this team, O line

620
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Speaker 7: is one of your strengths. You gotta and knock on wood.

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Speaker 7: You're still healthy up, so you got to come up.

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Speaker 7: You gotta stay balanced, You got to emphasize the run

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Speaker 7: game even a little bit more. Keyanty Ingram if he's

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Speaker 7: back this week, I think that's a big deal because

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Speaker 7: he is a big back and if he feels right

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Speaker 7: and he does have all of his abilities, he is

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Speaker 7: someone who can stoke it between the tackles and if

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Speaker 7: you get him into a rhythm, and if not, maybe

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Speaker 7: a Corey Clement, who in that last game against Minnesota

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Speaker 7: in the preseason, he was running hard with thank his

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Speaker 7: job on the line. He's done it before. He has

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Speaker 7: a proven track record, So we'll see. There's no James

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Speaker 7: Connor sitting in that running back room, but I think

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Speaker 7: you still have some physical guys who can keep the

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Speaker 7: defense honest.

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Speaker 5: Need to be able to keep possession of the football

637
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Speaker 5: as well. The Cardinals three turnovers plus turnover on downs.

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Speaker 5: They ran twenty two fewer plays than the Bengals. Joshua

639
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Speaker 5: Dobbs postgame, putting the onus on him as far as

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Speaker 5: those turnovers were concerned.

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Speaker 10: Turnovers are tough. We take pride and taking care of

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Speaker 10: the football, and you know both of those are on me,

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Speaker 10: you know, especially you know you're about to go into

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Speaker 10: the half with the lead in that area of the field,

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Speaker 10: right like, I got to be extremely smart and take

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Speaker 10: care of the football.

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Speaker 5: First time all season. The Cardinals did not finish in

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Speaker 5: the positive category. As far as turnover margin is concerned,

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Speaker 5: they were a minus two against the Bengals, and again,

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Speaker 5: you've got to be able to protect the football. You

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Speaker 5: have that football in order to score points. You're that'scing

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Speaker 5: points you're not going to win. Head coach Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 5: on the turnover battle, What.

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Speaker 8: Do we lose the takeaway ballet three to one? You know,

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Speaker 8: it's just a hard way to go. You know, we

656
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Speaker 8: got to do a better job execution wise protecting the football.

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Speaker 8: That's all eleven and we got to get that cleaned

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Speaker 8: up because if you're losing the takeaway battle, our guys

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Speaker 8: know that's a winning stat and you're not gonna win

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Speaker 8: a lot of games.

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Speaker 5: It goes back, Kyle to what we were talking about.

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Speaker 5: This team right now as it's currently constructed, does not

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Speaker 5: have the talent, small margin of error. They don't have

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Speaker 5: to play perfect football, but you can't be coughing it

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Speaker 5: up three times and then losing the ball on downs

666
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Speaker 5: against a Bengals team as struggled as they struggled earlier

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Speaker 5: this season, still very talented, having come off back to

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Speaker 5: back AFC Championship title game appearances.

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Speaker 6: No, you're exactly right. And again, this is one of

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Speaker 6: the things I expect them to address and fix right

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Speaker 6: because to your point, with this team, when they're playing well,

672
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Speaker 6: their margin of air is small. You cannot lose a

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Speaker 6: turnover battle. You cannot be two of seven on fourth down.

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Speaker 6: I mean, those are important possessions and typically you know,

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Speaker 6: it's a momentum killer for your offense and they're all

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Speaker 6: charged up, you know. But again, the things that we've

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Speaker 6: seen with this team, the things that kept popping up

678
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Speaker 6: through four games, the penalties and mistackles, things like that,

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Speaker 6: those got cleaned up, so you know, and that's one

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Speaker 6: of the things that coach Gannon emphasizes every week is

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Speaker 6: the turnovers. You know, I appreciate and I talked about

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Speaker 6: this with the coaches earlier and the players. I appreciate

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Speaker 6: the accountability by Joshua Dobbs. It doesn't appear that, you know,

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Speaker 6: the three turnovers were all his fault. The sax trip

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Speaker 6: that's that was on DJ Humphries. He's got to be

686
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Speaker 6: able to get that block. It was the one pass

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Speaker 6: rusher that won on that. It wasn't like he had

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Speaker 6: a bunch of guys in his face. It wasn't an

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Speaker 6: issue with ball security. When someone hits you from the

690
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Speaker 6: blind side, you cannot help that. The last interception you

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Speaker 6: got to take a chance, he got to try to

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Speaker 6: fit it into a tight window. Was fourth down anyways,

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Speaker 6: and he let it go and it got tipped up

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Speaker 6: in the air, and that was an interception. And then

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Speaker 6: again something was just a miss, whether it be communication,

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Speaker 6: whether it be a bust, whether you know you've got

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Speaker 6: two receivers within five yards of each other, that's that's

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Speaker 6: not how offenses are designed. So you know, he I

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Speaker 6: love how accountable he is. I love that he's going

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Speaker 6: to stand there and take that for the team or

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Speaker 6: for his teammates.

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Speaker 4: But you know, there was a.

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Speaker 6: Multiple, multiple factors in all those turnovers, and I'm not

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Speaker 6: really sure that Joshua Dobbs was that fault for any

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Speaker 6: of them.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you this much. Though you look at that

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Speaker 7: Rams secondary. They traded away Jalen Ramsey, obviously they didn't

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Speaker 7: bring back a couple other guys, including David Long and

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Speaker 7: Troy Hill, some names that Cardinals fans are familiar with.

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Speaker 7: Playing the Rams twice a year, so they've been going

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Speaker 7: with a couple of rookies. The sixth round rookie Darien Kendrick,

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Speaker 7: fourth round rookie Kobe Durant, and then they signed the

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Speaker 7: veteran Akello Witherspoon. Before the season started, Kendrick just got

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Speaker 7: torched by AJ Brown, So I think you have enough

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Speaker 7: in your receiver room and Josh Dobbs going against a

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Speaker 7: front it's not I mean other than Aaron Donald. They

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Speaker 7: got rid of Leonard Floyd. So if you're doubling Aaron

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Speaker 7: Donald every single snap, you'll take your chances with everyone

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Speaker 7: else in that front seven, and there's gonna be opportunity

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Speaker 7: against that secondary of the Rams. They have been lit

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Speaker 7: up in several games this year.

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Speaker 5: That Cardinals offensive line. The pressure up the middle, I

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Speaker 5: don't I don't remember being an issue so far this season.

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Speaker 5: Whenever Dobbs has been pressured, it's from the outside and

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Speaker 5: he steps up because there's a clean pocket. So between

726
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Speaker 5: yelled defrojolt Will Hernandez and the rotation at left guard,

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Speaker 5: those three guys have been able to keep Dobbs upright

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Speaker 5: and give him time to throw. To your point, Paul,

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Speaker 5: if you're looking at this Rams defense and Kendrick and

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Speaker 5: Witherspoon six passes defense, between those two, you might be

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Speaker 5: able to kind of do what the Bengals did to

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals just now and reverse against the Rams.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and to Paul's point earlier, I think it was

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Speaker 6: just today Bobby Brown their nose tackle, it said he's

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Speaker 6: gonna be out six weeks with an injury. He's their

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Speaker 6: only defensive lineman over three hundred pounds. So you do

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Speaker 6: have an opportunity to try to, you know, do some

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Speaker 6: things in the ground game, get some movement.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: One of the things that was impressive throughout this game

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Speaker 6: was Amari de Maricado and his three consecutive runs. I

742
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Speaker 6: think it was like eight yards and nine yards, eleven

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Speaker 6: yards for a touchdown. It was the exact same play,

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Speaker 6: thirteen personnel, three tight ends on the field. It was

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Speaker 6: his zone to the left, his zone to the right,

746
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Speaker 6: and then his zone back to the left. And you know,

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Speaker 6: with his running style that is perfect for him. He's

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Speaker 6: patient and then once he sees the hole he sticked

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Speaker 6: his foot in the ground, gets north south quickly. So

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Speaker 6: you know, I think there will be opportunities in the

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Speaker 6: run game against the Rams defense, particularly with their personnel

752
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Speaker 6: up front, their lack of bulk on the defensive line,

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Speaker 6: so if you can get a run set up where

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Speaker 6: you're double team and Aaron Donald, and as we've talked

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Speaker 6: about over and over and over in the past, we

756
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Speaker 6: play the Rams he the only way to control him

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Speaker 6: is to run at him, because if you try to

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Speaker 6: go east west against an Aaron Donald, he's going to

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Speaker 6: track you down and get some tackles for a loss.

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Speaker 7: Here's the other thing the Eagles did. Jalen Hurts had

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Speaker 7: fifteen carries, he ran for seventy two yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 7: So Josh Dobbs, we know his ability to get out

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Speaker 7: in space and run it. We know he can hit

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Speaker 7: nearly twenty miles per hour when he runs the ball,

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Speaker 7: So there's that. There's also a Rams defense that gave

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Speaker 7: up second half drives of seventeen, fifteen and ten plays

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Speaker 7: and then managed to keep Philly out of the end zone,

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Speaker 7: so it could have been a lot worse. Philly was

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Speaker 7: mad at itself for not executing in the red zone

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Speaker 7: quite often in that game.

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Speaker 5: Might need to rely a little bit more on Dobbs's legs,

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Speaker 5: especially with the injuries to James Connor and Keyante Ingram

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Speaker 5: back a deeper look at what is ahead for the

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Speaker 2: Snapped to burrow straight drop back head wrapped up in

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Speaker 2: sack back at the nineteen by stills for Dale Wolfley,

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Speaker 2: the former West Virginia mountaineer who passed yesterday. Dante Still's

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Speaker 2: a fellow mountaineer, making the entire Wolflee family proud what

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Speaker 2: a great game he's had of the first half.

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Speaker 5: Dante Still's sixth round draft pick out of West Virginia.

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Speaker 5: Ron Wolfley's younger brother, Dale passed away suddenly over the weekend.

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Speaker 5: That was why wolf was not in the broadcast or

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Speaker 5: on the broadcast on Sunday, and Paul calvic had to

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Speaker 5: pinch it again. Tremendous job by Paul to step in

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Speaker 5: at a moment's notice and do that. And again, we

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Speaker 5: don't know what is going on further with Ron Wolfley

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Speaker 5: his availability for this week, but certainly, Paul, you pinch

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Speaker 5: it very well.

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Speaker 7: Well, it was a tremendous salute by Dave Pash in

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Speaker 7: the moment to honor Dale Wolfley, someone I've had the

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Speaker 7: pleasure knowing for more than twenty five years. And suffice

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Speaker 7: it to say that Dale had the same zest for

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Speaker 7: life and passion for football that his brothers do. And

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Speaker 7: so it's it's a tremendous loss. It was unexpected, and

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Speaker 7: every single thought and prayer we have going to the

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Speaker 7: Wolfley family all this.

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Speaker 5: Week absolutely echo with that as well. And we make

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Speaker 5: that uneasy transition to Cardinals and Rams coming up this

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Speaker 5: Sunday in LA one twenty five is the kickoff eight

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Speaker 5: thirty pregame coverage begins and you hear that play call

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Speaker 5: with Dante Stills, Kyle and just still is another one

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Speaker 5: of those draft picks that is getting time on the

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Speaker 5: field reps, making the most of those reps now was

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Speaker 5: still just because of injuries to an LJ. Collier, Carlos Watkins,

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Speaker 5: Jonathan Ledbetter. But when your number is called, you're out

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Speaker 5: there producing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's playing very well. And to your point.

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Speaker 6: You know, one of the best developments with this team

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Speaker 6: through five games is the contribution of this rookie class.

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Speaker 6: You know, the ability of this rookie rookie class. I mean,

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Speaker 6: Mantia Sapfort has done a fantastic job of and and

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Speaker 6: his staff of evaluating talent coming out of college and

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Speaker 6: bringing the right not just the right talent, but the

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Speaker 6: right people and how they're made up. And you know,

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Speaker 6: to get this type of contribution early in your rookie

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Speaker 6: year is extremely difficult. I mean, I you know, I

823
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Speaker 6: was a high second round pick. I was not ready

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Speaker 6: to be thrown on the field even though I was.

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Speaker 6: It takes time, It takes reps, and the only way

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Speaker 6: you get to develop and you you take that next

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Speaker 6: step is to get those live reps on an NFL

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Speaker 6: football field. And these guys are getting baptism by fire,

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Speaker 6: and it doesn't you wouldn't know, you know, if you

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Speaker 6: didn't know the names, you didn't know the numbers, you

831
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Speaker 6: didn't know the experience, you wouldn't know that number of

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Speaker 6: these players are rookies because they have stepped in and

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Speaker 6: played like veterans. And that's a tremendous credit also to

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Speaker 6: the coaching staff that has health these players very quickly

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Speaker 6: to be able to help this team compete on Sundays.

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Speaker 5: How you build a team through the draft and the

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Speaker 5: Cardinals certainly with a great start in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 5: that foundation is being built by Manty, Austin Fords and

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Speaker 5: head coach Jonathan Again in the foundation, something Josh Woods

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Speaker 5: discussed earlier this week when asked about where this team is. Again,

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Speaker 5: the record not where you want it to be at

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Speaker 5: one and four, but yes, things are doing are being

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Speaker 5: set here for not only this season, but for years

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Speaker 5: to come.

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Speaker 9: Nick Gralis or DC just gave us, like a little

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Speaker 9: quote he took from someone else and says that when

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Speaker 9: a flowers growing, the roots grow first. So like, even

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Speaker 9: though you might not see the outcome, the result that

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Speaker 9: you want, the beautiful budding flower, like, just know that

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Speaker 9: that foundation is being set. So that's what we're hanging

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Speaker 9: our hat on. That's what we're you know, coming in

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Speaker 9: every day to just trust the process build this foundation.

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Speaker 5: Now, that's someone that Nick Raalis took that analogy from

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Speaker 5: happened to be his head coach in Philadelphia. Nick Sirianni

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Speaker 5: famous flower analogy of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 11: You know, the results aren't there right now. But what's

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Speaker 11: going on here is that there's growth under the soil.

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Speaker 11: I put a picture of a flower up right, and

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Speaker 11: that it's it's coming through the ground and the roots

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Speaker 11: are growing out. And the only way the roots grow

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Speaker 11: out and they grow stronger and they grow better is

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Speaker 11: if that we all water, we all fertilize, we all

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Speaker 11: do our part.

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Speaker 5: That was in the midst of a four win season, Paul.

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Speaker 5: And then the following year, what happens They advanced.

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Speaker 4: To the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: Yeah and so, and I smile because, man did he

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Speaker 7: get a lot of grief in the Philadelphia market. I mean,

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Speaker 7: he stokes sports talk radio ratings like you wouldn't believe.

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Speaker 7: And then when you hear the depth and the detail

871
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Speaker 7: he went into to say, you fertilize and you water it.

872
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 7: And the fact that he put the picture of the

873
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 7: flower up on the screen for a bunch of alpha males.

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00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 7: I mean, Kyle Van Deibasch, take us into an NFL

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Speaker 7: meeting room and when your head coach is throwing a

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00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 7: picture of a flower up on the power point screen,

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Speaker 7: yes they're better be an explanation.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been in a lot of meetings, but never

879
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 6: has it turned into a botan any lesson from my

880
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 6: head coach. But yeah, I mean I appreciate that. It's

881
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Speaker 6: to your point. It's probably the wrong market to get

882
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 6: all soft and give a flower example, but you know,

883
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 6: it makes a lot of sense, and it's truly how

884
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 6: this team is being built. Look, this is such a

885
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 6: knee jerk reaction league and with the media, and it's

886
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 6: all about the wins and the losses. But this year

887
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 6: was not necessarily about the wins and losses for this team.

888
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 6: It's about growth, it's about experience, it's about buying, it's

889
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 6: about culture, it's about finding the right people and getting

890
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 6: them in the building and developing those types of players.

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00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 6: And we can truly see that. Look, you don't necessarily

892
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Speaker 6: see the results in the win loss column or on

893
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 6: the scoreboard, but you can see growth. You can see development.

894
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 6: You can see guys that are fitting into this system

895
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 6: and buying into this system, and that growth will continue

896
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 6: throughout this season and very soon that growth will turn

897
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Speaker 6: into wins.

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Speaker 5: We saw that through the first four games. We just

899
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Speaker 5: didn't see it materialize on Sunday. But again, the quality

900
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 5: of opponent went up against the Bengals, and you look

901
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 5: at the Rams. They come in with a record of

902
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 5: two and three. They lost at home to the Eagles

903
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 5: twenty three to fourteen. The offense didn't cross midfield in

904
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Speaker 5: the second half, defense allowed thirteen of eighteen on third down,

905
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 5: and right now, this offense pretty one dimensional, Paul, when

906
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 5: you look at what Matthew Stafford has, and now with

907
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 5: Cooper Cup back in the.

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00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 7: Fold, I mean, you know, show hands how many people

909
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 7: can name the Rams starting running back Kyron Williams.

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00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 11: Right.

911
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 7: I know I couldn't before we started looking at the Rams.

912
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 7: Here's what stands out though, that Matthew Stafford, even minus

913
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Speaker 7: Cooper Cup, coming into the last game, had a top

914
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 7: five passing game in the NFL by every metric. I mean,

915
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 7: they came into that game and they had the second

916
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 7: most first downs via the pass, only to Miami and

917
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 7: that vaunted offense. And then you know what they did

918
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 7: against Denver. They just skewed all the Miami Dolphins stats.

919
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 7: So Matthew Stafford can still throw it, he can still

920
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 7: read a defense, he can still find open receivers. He's

921
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 7: got Pooking Akua, who's a lot in common with the

922
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Speaker 7: Michael Wilson. They were the two guys who's bawled out

923
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 7: at the Senior Bowl, and they have taken the NFL

924
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Speaker 7: by storm as is either undrafted or late round rookies.

925
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Speaker 7: And now you get also two two at Well, who

926
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Speaker 7: was a high draft pick once upon a time, and

927
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Speaker 7: so he's been great at creating space. So look, we've

928
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Speaker 7: seen Matthew Stafford before and it's gonna be a lot

929
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 7: like Joe Burrow. He's not gonna be the most mobile guy,

930
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 7: but he's gonna take.

931
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Speaker 4: What a defense gives you.

932
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Speaker 7: And he's got great arm talent to make every throw.

933
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 5: Second most pass attempts forourthmost completion's, fourthmost passing yards. That's

934
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Speaker 5: what Matthew Stafford has. And again his favorite target right now,

935
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 5: or at least has been Pookinakua, the fifth round draft

936
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 5: pick out of BYU Cooper Cup comes back after missing

937
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 5: four games with a hamstring injury. Makes his season debut

938
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 5: last week, and he comes back and leaves the team

939
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Speaker 5: in both catches and receiving yards eight for one eighteen.

940
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 5: So you have to pay attention. And again it goes

941
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 5: back to what we talked about with Jamar Chase. What

942
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 5: the Cardinals do defensively against Stafford and those wide receivers.

943
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 7: And to hear Matthew Stafford tell at and Cooper Cup

944
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 7: they missed a number of big throws against the Eagles

945
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 7: that the chemistry wasn't quite quite there, the connection wasn't

946
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Speaker 7: quite there. So those two guys, we know what they

947
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 7: did during that Super Bowl season. They got up every

948
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 7: morning at six am virtually during a game week and

949
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 7: they got extra reps. So I'm guessing they're gonna come

950
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 7: in and that connection is gonna be dialed in this week.

951
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Speaker 4: And we also what.

952
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Speaker 7: Happened to the Cardinals secondary last week against Jamar Chase.

953
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 7: It's a concern.

954
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Speaker 5: What do you want to see Kyle Real quick Cardinals

955
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 5: defense or even offense to make sure they're walking off

956
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 5: that field at SO five Stadium with.

957
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 6: The w Yeah, they again they need to run the ball,

958
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 6: regardless of the fact that James Connor is not out there.

959
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 6: You know, I think one of the biggest surprise with

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00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 6: the Rams a lot like the Cardinals, they're really competitive

961
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 6: in all their games. One of the biggest surprises is

962
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 6: their top ten in yards and scoring on defense. You know,

963
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 6: other than Aaron Donald, you can't name a lot of

964
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 6: players on that defense, and they're going out there and

965
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 6: they're performing pretty well. So I think you need to

966
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 6: stick with your ground game because the play action pass

967
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 6: has been great for this team and can control the

968
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Speaker 6: clock against the Rams.

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Speaker 5: One twenty five is the kickoff. We'll talk about it

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Speaker 5: in one week's time. Here it is the Cardinals Red

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