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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody, DJ, Bucky here for a little Move

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Speaker 1: the Sticks podcast action and Buck Man. We got a

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Speaker 1: Monday night game. I did not anticipate that game being

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Speaker 1: through a little project, the three Piece Checklist, gonna talk

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Speaker 1: finally a little college football recap on the weekend. That

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Speaker 1: who it is. One of the premier players in college

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Speaker 1: Monday night football game Green Bay, San Francisco. Nice to

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Speaker 1: terms of the weapons and what we have in front

429
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Speaker 1: of him. I'm gonna let you go here with Mike McCoy.

430
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Speaker 1: You know him extremely well. I know him extremely offense man,

431
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Speaker 1: I know him extremely will and I know he's he's

432
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Speaker 1: he's really under a lot of heat. Um. I think

433
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Speaker 1: he's in a tough position because he's dealing with a

434
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Speaker 1: young quarterback. But I kind of think they should have

435
00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,880
Speaker 1: had a plan in place to get the young guy going.

436
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Speaker 1: And so the fact that people are already calling for

437
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Speaker 1: his job makes me just come to wonder, is he

438
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,040
Speaker 1: being stubborn when it comes to the creativity that you

439
00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,960
Speaker 1: need to help a young quarterback um thrive and succeed.

440
00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,520
Speaker 1: We've seen it before we saw him doing it with

441
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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow, but for whatever reason, it hasn't been job

442
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,160
Speaker 1: and maybe he has the yips from his experience dealing

443
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Speaker 1: with the charges. But I think this guy is a

444
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Speaker 1: really good coordinator. It we just haven't seen it kind

445
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Speaker 1: of play out in Arizona. So right now I'll probably

446
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Speaker 1: get him a C C plus maybe being C plus.

447
00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 1: All right, we go see plus there, Uh, last one here,

448
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,640
Speaker 1: and we can zip through this one because Lamar Jackson

449
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 1: hasn't been out there. But if he did get the

450
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Speaker 1: keys to the car next year, if they decided some

451
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Speaker 1: reason to move on from Joe Flacco, which the ways planning,

452
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't anticipate. But just looking at this Ravens group,

453
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Speaker 1: playmaker wise, Buck, what do you think playmaker was? The

454
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens have have kind of upgraded. I like, what

455
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Speaker 1: again from Willie Sneed. Michael Crabty has been a nice

456
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Speaker 1: chain mover, Uh the tight Ends. They're getting some production

457
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Speaker 1: out there. I think they've done a good job. I'm

458
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Speaker 1: not crazy excited about him, but I give them a

459
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Speaker 1: B because I think they're just solid, Yeah, solid, and

460
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Speaker 1: they have it. There's a lot of different guys, don't

461
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 1: know there's a true number one, but a lot of

462
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Speaker 1: places to go with the football and good depth and

463
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Speaker 1: in production they're getting out of the runners, especially Alex Collins.

464
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Speaker 1: You've got Buck Allen in there as well. And they've

465
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Speaker 1: got a bunch of tight ends as you mentioned, haven't

466
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Speaker 1: really cranked up the rookie James Hurst their first rounder.

467
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Speaker 1: But you've got Max Williams. Uh, you've got Nick Boyle.

468
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Speaker 1: You've got some guys are Mark Andrews, another rookie who's

469
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Speaker 1: I think might be leading all rookie tight ends and catches. Uh,

470
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Speaker 1: he's doing a nice job there for him, so some

471
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Speaker 1: good weapons. I'll give him a B. Protection wise, man,

472
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Speaker 1: I'll give him an A. I mean they have a

473
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Speaker 1: very good offensive line. Ronnie Stanley is playing well. When

474
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Speaker 1: I watched them, Uh, we saw Alex Lewis get hurt

475
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Speaker 1: the other day. Books like he's gonna be okay. That's

476
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Speaker 1: a good thing. Marshall Janda still playing at all pro level.

477
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Speaker 1: And James Hurst from what James Hurst was when he

478
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Speaker 1: entered the league coming out of North Carolina to what

479
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Speaker 1: he is now, Man, he is vastly improved. I'm gonna

480
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Speaker 1: give this protection in a grade here, I mean street

481
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 1: free agent James Hurst been it would come off the

482
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Speaker 1: street and find a way to be productive. I think

483
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what you want from those guys. You wouldn't

484
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Speaker 1: imagine those guys being starters. But when I look at

485
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, they've been solid the point of attacktive,

486
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Speaker 1: being able to run the ball a little bit, and

487
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Speaker 1: in their best games they've put up big production in

488
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Speaker 1: terms of the numbers of yards and even the points.

489
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Speaker 1: So overall, I think the protection that old line has

490
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Speaker 1: played pretty pretty well better than expectations from my standpoint,

491
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Speaker 1: all right, and then give you the final word here

492
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Speaker 1: with Marty Morton Wig gets to play color. You know,

493
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Speaker 1: it's a mixed bag with Marty, and I love Morty.

494
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Speaker 1: Morty co me at a green bay, but sometimes he

495
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Speaker 1: can be fascinated with the passing game. And when I

496
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Speaker 1: look at the Baltimore Ravens and I look at the

497
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Speaker 1: identity of their team, you're talking about a team that

498
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Speaker 1: has the best defense in football right now, and so

499
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Speaker 1: offensively you need to play to the strength of that.

500
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Speaker 1: That means run the ball, be a little more conservative,

501
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: don't put the ball in harm's way, and I just

502
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: think it's for Marty Moore Week and Gregg Roman to

503
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Speaker 1: avoid the temptation of showing everybody how smart they are

504
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Speaker 1: and what is on their chiefe K Factory menus on

505
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Speaker 1: game day. If they could just dial it back a

506
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Speaker 1: little bit. I think the Baltimore Ravens legitimately could be

507
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Speaker 1: one of the teams that could be a tough out

508
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Speaker 1: for anybody when we get into the postseason. So we're

509
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Speaker 1: slapping just give him a B plus B. Yeah, I

510
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Speaker 1: give him a B. I can That's a fun exercise.

511
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Speaker 1: Man healthy. I felt like we've accomplished something that you

512
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Speaker 1: feel better about everything now, I do, I do, I do.

513
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Speaker 1: Let's let's switch over some college here. Uh keep this

514
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Speaker 1: train rolling here. Big news, Nick Bosa has withdrawn from

515
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. He's gonna focus on health and training buck

516
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Speaker 1: to get ready for the NFL Draft. He has played

517
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Speaker 1: his last college snap. The obvious question, I'm sure that

518
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Speaker 1: you'll get. I'll get when we're doing radio interviews around

519
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Speaker 1: the country. Does this impact his draft grade, that he's

520
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Speaker 1: left his college team to go get ready for the draft.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, how can we say this? Uh no, no,

522
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Speaker 1: it doesn't impact it at all uh. In fact, I

523
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Speaker 1: think some will be happy that he's no longer at

524
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Speaker 1: risk for further injury. Like, let's get on with the

525
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: process that's going with getting ready to get prepared for

526
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Speaker 1: the draft. We know he's a top five player, maybe

527
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Speaker 1: even the best player in the draft. Let's get to that.

528
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Speaker 1: Let's check him out. He has more than enough tape

529
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Speaker 1: for us to see. We've seen him playing big games.

530
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Speaker 1: You've seen him dominate a lead competition. I don't know

531
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Speaker 1: what what more we can see from him from an

532
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Speaker 1: evaluation standpoint. Let's get him healthy, Let's get him right less.

533
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Speaker 1: Let him look like an a plus player when he

534
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Speaker 1: gets to the combine in February. Quick question, here, Buck,

535
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Speaker 1: the two favorites for NFL Rookie of the Year Defensive

536
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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year right now, who would you say

537
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Speaker 1: would be the too leading vote getters right now, if

538
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Speaker 1: we were to have that vote, would have to be

539
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb And this award, right, I was going to go, well, oh, Darius,

540
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Speaker 1: I was even gonna go I was gonna go Derwin

541
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Speaker 1: James Denzil Award. What all three of those guys have

542
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: in common? Did you watch their bowl games? Last year. Uh,

543
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: I did, and I didn't see them. I didn't see

544
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Speaker 1: him there. I see him there. How's that worked out

545
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: for him? So far? It's worked out pretty well for them,

546
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: worked out. The college coaches aren't gonna want to hear that.

547
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: They get mad at us, But the facts of the facts,

548
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Speaker 1: it did not impact their draft status one bit. It

549
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Speaker 1: did not impact them being ready to roll and playing

550
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Speaker 1: at a very high level. Um. It's something that you know,

551
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a lot more of it this.

552
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: You know, maybe he could have come back and been

553
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Speaker 1: healthy and help ohiouse sate go on and win a

554
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Speaker 1: national championship, and you know he he would be missing

555
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Speaker 1: out in that standpoint of that experience. But I think

556
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Speaker 1: you keep the main thing the main thing, and say,

557
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: I gotta get healthy. It's time to get to the

558
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Speaker 1: earning portion of my career. The earning portion. Absolutely, it's

559
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Speaker 1: time to get the money. It's time for it to

560
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Speaker 1: be busy this And I think he's making a smart

561
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: business decision by going ahead and letting everyone know I'm done,

562
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm no longer a Buckeye or I'm a retired bucket everything. Yeah,

563
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: there you go. So h we've got one boasts, so

564
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: actually both boasts are injured right now. We'll see when

565
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: Joey's gonna come back for the Chargers and Nick Bosa

566
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Speaker 1: has done there with Ohio State. All right, let's get

567
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Speaker 1: to a couple of things we saw it last weekend

568
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Speaker 1: from the college football field. Then we'll get into our

569
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Speaker 1: interview here before we wrap this podcast up. L s U. Buck,

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Speaker 1: did you call that one? By the way, did you

571
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Speaker 1: call L s U? I did call that one? Idea

572
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: call and I was one of them the few that

573
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: I that I got right. But L s U came up.

574
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: I felt like coming off their loss to Florida, they

575
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: would be smarting and their defense is pretty good. They

576
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: came and got with them. I didn't think they would

577
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: blast them like that, But pretty big win for the Tigers.

578
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Speaker 1: Devin White Man lineback for L. S U. From a

579
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Speaker 1: little bit that I've seen on tape and then what

580
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Speaker 1: you see when you're just you know, scouring through the

581
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Speaker 1: games and watch on TV and is he speaking roll?

582
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Speaker 1: I mean he is the modern linebacker. L s U.

583
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: This is the next one in line. I mean, they've

584
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Speaker 1: had one of these guys, who are they all? They've

585
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: got they had kwon Alexander, Um, they had uh Dion Jones,

586
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Speaker 1: They've had who's the other one I'm missing? Um, They've

587
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: had three guys. It was just like boom boom, boom,

588
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: boom boom. They keep Duke Riley, Thank you, Sully, nice

589
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: nice work out of the bullpen. Um, he's the next

590
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: one in line. Unbelievable what they've been able to do,

591
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: Like they all right, next next one. I know Michigan.

592
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: They thrashed Wisconsin. Actually ran into uh the Melvin Gordon

593
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Speaker 1: that the was it that night? Yeah? It was later

594
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: than I getting a snack down the hotel and I

595
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: was like, man, rough night he was. He was not

596
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: in a good mood after watching was pounded by Michigan.

597
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: But I just want to ask you real quick, Buck.

598
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: You know him real well, and I haven't studied him yet.

599
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: I just see a little bit on t V Shade Patterson.

600
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Speaker 1: Is he an NFL quarterback or is he just a

601
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: good college quarterback? I don't know, man, I was really

602
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: excited about him heading to the thing. I'm beginning to

603
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: lean more towards the ladder more of a college quarterback.

604
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: Good player, run around, make some plays. But what I

605
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: thought he was, and it he's turned out to be

606
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: is a little different. I don't know if he is

607
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: athletic enough, if we're dynamic enough to kind of be

608
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: a runaround playmaker at the next level. And he's been

609
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: good and I'm great for Michigan. Some of that is

610
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: probably due to the transition. I'm gonna given incomplete in

611
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: terms of his grade, but I'm wondering if he's good

612
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: enough to be an NFL prospect. Great question. The next

613
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Speaker 1: one here, Um, this team lost, Auburn lost. I remember

614
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: who they lost too, but they did lose, and I

615
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: want to talk about the team that beat him, and

616
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: that's kind of it's kind of irrelevant. So let's talk

617
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: about Auburn here and UH and Jared stid him wide receiver.

618
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Speaker 1: You is back boys, Uh, three and three, five hundred

619
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Speaker 1: football for the volunteers. Congratulations. So it's big, man. It

620
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: is big when you when you UH pull back a

621
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Speaker 1: little bit and consider the last SEC win was November.

622
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Speaker 1: It is It is nice to be three and three.

623
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Speaker 1: Is that possible with your resources? When you have butch

624
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: Lyle Jones as your head coach? Anything is possible. Shots fired? Wow,

625
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: very personal, very personal. Just saying, congratulate into the tank

626
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: I did, I did, who was responsible for it before?

627
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: Then you can go duly as well, and then you

628
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: can go It was pretty much the genesis of it.

629
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: Lane train. Yeah, yeah, it was nice to get off

630
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: the schneide. I was hoping I was gonna see how

631
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: long it takes silly to jump in and find just

632
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: I was going to just skip over the game entirely

633
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: on the rundown and just not mention it and see

634
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: just if the hair just like just flew off his head. Uh.

635
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: But I do want to talk about sid them real

636
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: quick in all seriousness. Book. Man, the the excitement coming

637
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: into the season and then I don't know, it's just

638
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: kind of shell shocked with how bad they are upfront. Um,

639
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: they're inconsistency running the football. But man at the depot

640
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: deep shot, Yeah, I just man, it's it's not good.

641
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: It's not for all the excitement. I was very excited

642
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: about him coming into the season. It's just it hasn't

643
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: worked out. Now it hasn't worked out, Like I just

644
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: can't figure out, like what what has happened? And some

645
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: will put it on oh he's a misfit and Gus

646
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: Malson's offense. But I think the talent would would shine

647
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: like we would have enough moments and we'd be like, yeah,

648
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: the offense isn't necessarily great for him, but look, you

649
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: can see the talent. You can do those things. He

650
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: just hasn't played well enough, especially when you have some

651
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: other guys that are really crushing it. Um. I just

652
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: think it's hard to continue to talk about him the

653
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: way that we talked about some of the top guys

654
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: UM that potentially could be in the draft, no doubt,

655
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: Oregon Washington. Um, I didn't get I did not get

656
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: a chance to see much of this game, and it

657
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: was kind of a wild affair, but I was running around,

658
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to see. I want to watch

659
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: it on tape. But your thoughts on how much of

660
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: that game that you saw there with with with Herbert, Oh,

661
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean, her Herbert just the deal. Herbert is the deal.

662
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: I think what's going to be interesting about the Herbert

663
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: conversation will be the same conversation that we've had with

664
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: the Joe Flacco and the brock Oswilders and even the

665
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: passing and Lynch, can you be too tall for the position?

666
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: Because he's six five, almost six six. He's super athletic.

667
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: We haven't seen many guys that tall who've had success

668
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: in the league. I think he's different. I think he's dynamic,

669
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: he's explosive, he's smart, he plays the game the right way.

670
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: He's tough because you've seen him take big shots and

671
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: get up. Um. I just kind of like what they're

672
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: doing up at Austin Stadium up in Eugene, Oregon with

673
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks in their quarterback. I'm really excited about him,

674
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see him continue to evolve and grow. Well,

675
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: speaking of exciting, I'm excited to UH to bring on

676
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: our next guest, who is one of the premier players,

677
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: one of the best players in all of college football.

678
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: Could not be more excited to have Houston's Ed Oliver

679
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: joined the show. Alright, Block, I could not be more

680
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: fired up to have our next guests on the show. Here,

681
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: one of those dominating players in college football over the

682
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: last several seasons, Houston defensive linement Ed Oliver joined the

683
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: show and how you doing, man? Just happy to be

684
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: on the show. Well, we're pumped to have you on here.

685
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: We we want to start back at the beginning. I

686
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: know you told the story many times, but just for

687
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: those that an our audience that haven't heard it. Uh,

688
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: as one of the most highly recruited players in the country,

689
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: you decided to go to Houston. What went into that

690
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: decision and why did you land there? Um? My brother

691
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: was here. Uh, old head coach from my high school

692
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: is here. It was right here in the city. I

693
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: love what Tom Verman had going. Um, just the whole

694
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: atmosphere was right. And Uh it was a hell of

695
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: a time in Houston, and I feel like I joined

696
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: at the right time. You know. It's it's just uncommon

697
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: for a guy who's a five star recruit to stay

698
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: not only stay at home, but to play maybe at

699
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: a school that is not deemed like a major power. Uh.

700
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: When you did, and you made that decision with your

701
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: eye towards the NFL, how did you think you could

702
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: use your experience in your time in Houston to put

703
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: you in a situation to be a top draft pick. Well,

704
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna have to come in and compete,

705
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: just like anywhere in college football. I had I think

706
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: a fifth year senior in front of me with who

707
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: was our conference the year before so I knew I

708
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: hadn't come in and go to work. So just to

709
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: get like any college football player tech, you had to compete,

710
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: go to work every day for your job. And that's

711
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: what I did when I came in. I want to

712
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: go back to when you're in high school, man, because

713
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: when I see you and I see how explosive you

714
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: are and how athletic you are on the football field.

715
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: Uh something, I'm I'm I don't know, I don't know

716
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: the background, and I'm guessing you had to have played

717
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: multiple sports going up and then through high school. Tell

718
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: us a little bit about your athletic background, man, because

719
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: it jumps off the tape. I only played football, crazy enough,

720
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: I only played football. I did track, I did shot

721
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: putting dishes. But that's not anything just super avoletic. Uh.

722
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: I played street basketball, nothing organized. It's just I don't know.

723
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm how did they keep you off the bat? How

724
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: did they keep you off the basketball team in high school?

725
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm only only sees two, so you ain't going to

726
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: the league and C two two and a standing prowd guy,

727
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: you ain't going to the league. And when I heard that,

728
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: I was like, right, no reason for me to even

729
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: play UM, and so we're thinking about that and thinking

730
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: about the uniqueness that you bring to the detail of position.

731
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: Are there any guys that you study, being college, being

732
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL that you can trying to take little

733
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: things to add to your game. Um. Like I say,

734
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: and all my interviews I watched, I watched a lot

735
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: of how many regardless of status or how many people

736
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: know them, and I just take a little bits and

737
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: pieces from that game and put it into mind. If

738
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: it's effective, it's an affecting the game and affecting the

739
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: way they play in a positive way, I take it,

740
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: take a little bits and pieces. It could be anywhere

741
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: from Aaron Donald to uh Harrison that plays for New

742
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: York So from from any one of those guys, two

743
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: guys that playing in high school, the guys playing in college,

744
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: to even guys on my team. I just take a

745
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: little bits and pieces that positive positive to the game,

746
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: and I just use it. Where do you like lining

747
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: up most? When I when I watch you on tape

748
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: and I see you in kind of in a zero

749
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: world one and I'm selfishly want to see you kick

750
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: out to the three a little bit and do more

751
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: there you get some work in there. But where do

752
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: you like lining up the most there? Whatever I like,

753
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: I like lining up what they trying to stop me.

754
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: That's why I like. You want to go to me. Okay,

755
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: let's get it. But in the three and the three Understoppable,

756
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: you cannot block me any three technique. I'm sorry. That's

757
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: why I want to see you in the three more man,

758
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm selfish. I want to see you can't block me

759
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: in the you can't blow me nowhere? Okay. So in

760
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: saying that, and and and like, if we were to

761
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: look at tape together, you're watching yourself. What makes you

762
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: so unstoppable? Unblockable at the no staffer in the three

763
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: technique spot. You gotta take it. You gotta take it

764
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: back further than the film. You gotta go to all season,

765
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: gotta go to work as you gotta watch him in

766
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: the way room. You gotta watch the way I bring.

767
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: You gotta watch him in practice. You gotta's mortganges. What

768
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: I put on tape is it's the ground behind the

769
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: ground that people don't get to see, and we don't

770
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: put out there for people to see. But that's that's

771
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: why I prepare myself. We saw a little glimpse of

772
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: it that that clip kind of went viral. If you're

773
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: doing some footwork stuff in the off season, tell us

774
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: a little bit about what you're working on in the

775
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: off season. That's me having fun. That's not that's not me.

776
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: Putting the ball on my back, that's not me. Uh

777
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: in the wight room, that's not me, uh, summer conditioning,

778
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: that's just me having fun. That's fun to me. That's

779
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: that's that's essentially me playing football. But not that's not

780
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: the ground I'm talking. I'm talking about the actual, hard

781
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: nosed getting yourself ready, getting your body ready, working out

782
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: things like that. I put in triple time in the

783
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: way room. So in thinking about that, you're putting in

784
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: triple time in the weight room. What exercise do you

785
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: think are the ones that have really helped you the

786
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: most when it comes to dominating that the defensive line squads, Powers,

787
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: power Clan, Probaly hands down, park Lyin I'll explose, not

788
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: your hips and probably power clean I think, uh, probably

789
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: Bulgarians squash so games, that's the moment's full bar related live.

790
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm a strong squatter too, but you know, I think plaid.

791
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: I love it. We're getting down doing a little dirty

792
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: work there in the weight room. All Right. One of

793
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: the things we like to do with with players we

794
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: haven't rolled through here is talking about the three h is.

795
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: And we'll start first with just the hardship. But what

796
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: what's a What's a hardship you've had to endure during

797
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: your life? Could be football ready, could be off the

798
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: field related. But just give us an example of something

799
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: you've had to work through in your life and you've

800
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: come out the other side. Um, I wouldn't say anything

801
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: has just been a major obstacle in my life. I

802
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: feel like I've been very blessed, Uh with minimum minimum hardships.

803
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it a hardship. I just called it

804
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: a little bit of adversity. Um, the I don't. I

805
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: couldn't even give you a hardship in my life, and

806
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: my parents have been so great to me. God, it

807
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: blessed me, honestly, and I just I really couldn't give

808
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: you a hardship. To be honest, to lead completely honest

809
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: with you. What's been the biggest highlight of your life?

810
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: It's been the biggest thing that you're most that I'm

811
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: in the college and playing with my brother. Um, keeping

812
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: my family together because if we went to go play

813
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: at different schools, that would be hard on them choosing

814
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: between the two. And uh yeah, I think that would

815
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: be probably be my greatest highlight, not in your war,

816
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: but me coming to play college. Foot about my brother?

817
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: How about your hero? Who's your hero? Man hero? Probably

818
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: my brother, My brother and my dad. That two would

819
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: be my hero. My dad give us a background on that.

820
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: My brother put football in my life, so I followed

821
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: his footsteps with the football, and then my dad. He

822
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: taught me discipline, respect and telling me how to take

823
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: care of animals, um, just things like that, responsibility. He

824
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: instilled all that into me. He it was hard on

825
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: me growing up because he knew I could be great,

826
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, and thinking about being great. What are some

827
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: of the things that you would hope to accomplish in football,

828
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: be it at the collegiate level, bit at the pro level.

829
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: Would be some of the things that personally you would

830
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: feel like at the end of at Oliver's career, if

831
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm able to do these things, I would feel good

832
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: about what I've done well. Short term and gold would

833
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: be this season winning a bowl game and winning a

834
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: conference championship. That would be some things that that would

835
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: never be forgotten at the University of Houston in the

836
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: era that I played in when I left. I want

837
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: a conference championship in the bowl game. Um, that's something

838
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen every year here. So if I could

839
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: just change the stigma and win that before I go,

840
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: that would be that would be nice. Last story from me,

841
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: I just want to get one one personal story here

842
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: from it, just from being on the field. Have you

843
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: had a moment. A lot of times you see people

844
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: to try and talk trash and down the trenches and

845
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: try and say stuff. Is there anything that's happened with

846
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: you on the practice field, maybe when you first got

847
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: started on a game field where you had somebody that

848
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: maybe tried to be Tommy tough guy and tried to

849
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: try to say, hey, I want to get little piece

850
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: at Oliver and it didn't work out. So well, Yeah,

851
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Speaker 1: I had a Copra running is when I first got here.

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Speaker 1: If I star athlete comes to a group of five

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Speaker 1: school uh, he's big time, he said out of a

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Speaker 1: no that it wasn't me. I went to work. I

855
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Speaker 1: did what I was supposed to do. But I did

856
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Speaker 1: have a couple of running as with my teammates and

857
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Speaker 1: ironed my respect man like that. No nonsense at Oliver, Alright,

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Speaker 1: One thing I want to ask you, and you had

859
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Speaker 1: the pleasuring opportunity to go against Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson. Uh,

860
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: what are the differences between taking those two guys down

861
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: in terms of Mayfield and Jackson? Um? Honestly, we had

862
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: a great game plan to put me in position. Um.

863
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: I had to chase both of them so both of

864
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Speaker 1: them were aware in the pocket. Amazing quarterbacks. But I

865
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Speaker 1: don't know when we played then, we had amazing game

866
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Speaker 1: plans put me in position I had to do is

867
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Speaker 1: execute a man. You are You are a fun player

868
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Speaker 1: to watch. Man. We can't thank you enough forgiving us

869
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Speaker 1: some time here today. Best of luck the rest of

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Speaker 1: the season, and I'm sure we'll be catching up with

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Speaker 1: you in the spring here man. Congratulations, are shot on

872
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Speaker 1: so far, look forward to following you. Man. Well, there

873
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: you have it, buck Uh. One of the guys we'll

874
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: be talking in an awful lot about as we lead

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00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: up to the draft. Is great to catch up with

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Speaker 1: Mr Ed Oliver. Man. He's he's a terrific player. Obviously,

877
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Speaker 1: you see how serious he is about his craft, the

878
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Speaker 1: amount of preparation that he goes into it, being in

879
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Speaker 1: the weight room, in the film room. He's a talented player.

880
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: Can't wait to really dig into him and evaluate Hi,

881
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Speaker 1: because I think he's gonna be one the top guys

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Speaker 1: that we talked about. All business ed Oliver, That's how

883
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Speaker 1: we describe him. He is all business man. He's uh. Anyways,

884
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: he's a fun player to watch him, a fun player

885
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Speaker 1: to really dig in and evaluate as we get closer

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Speaker 1: towards the spring. There but man jam packed episode today, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I thought we covered a lot of ground, a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. Today did have a lot of fun. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about the guys that we were able to talk

890
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Speaker 1: to you today, and I'm excited about this weekend football games,

891
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Speaker 1: not only in pro but in college. We got some

892
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Speaker 1: good He's out there looking forward to an app state.

893
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: Knocking on the door the top twenty five, Buck, I

894
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: think we're one win away. They still knocking on the door.

895
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Speaker 1: They're not. We're knock on the door, man, And when

896
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Speaker 1: we get that, don't even think for a second. I'm

897
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Speaker 1: not gonna have research. Look at the last time North

898
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Speaker 1: Carolina was in the top twenty five because I'm gonna unleash.

899
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Speaker 1: I'm at least all the research. It's only been a's

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Speaker 1: only been a couple of years. Was I think they're

901
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Speaker 1: like they have to the year before because you guys

902
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Speaker 1: went to the championship game. That's right. Who's the quarterback?

903
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: Who's your quarterback? Mark Quise? There you go, well, Marquis Marquise,

904
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Speaker 1: there you go. That's right. That's probably about three or

905
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Speaker 1: four years ago. Not bad. It might have been. It

906
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Speaker 1: might have been a little bit, but okay with talk

907
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Speaker 1: about you guys. People just talk about this program in

908
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Speaker 1: the past. Man, it's nothing wrong. I mean, there is

909
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Speaker 1: no excuse for app State to be higher ranked than

910
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Speaker 1: the University of North Carolina basketball school. Man, they've already

911
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: moved on. Temporary setback, temporary story setback for a major

912
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Speaker 1: combat get away, A little bit get away, A little bit.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us today. Thank you guys

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Speaker 1: for listening. Uh to move the sticks. He's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: I'm danielscher Am I and a huge shout out. I

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Speaker 1: think we've only got one more show left with our guys.

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Speaker 1: Sean Sullivan sally back there, selly, you hanging in there, buddy,

918
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Speaker 1: you got a little tears and yes sir, yes sir.

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Speaker 1: Keeping it together today. I don't know about tomorrow. Like that,

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Speaker 1: we got one more to go. We're we'll give you

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Speaker 1: some more information on what Selly's got coming up in

922
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Speaker 1: his world on the next episode. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 1: listening to download Tell friend all that good stuff. We'll

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Speaker 1: catch you next time. Thanks for downloading Move the Sticks

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