1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for the Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: Here we go. It is a Tuesday, A lot to 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: talk about Herd. Hire a her key. Will the chiefs 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: be in it? The dynasty? Do they make it in? 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: It's the Herd? Wherever you may be and however you 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: team ten too and OHO Teams ten OHO and two teams. 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: By using the chiefs of the oh and two teams, 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: we'll be fine. They'll get healthy. Not great, very good. 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: J Mac. You know, Baker Mayfield and I are friendies. 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: And I told you I offered him a podcast I'm 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: a little company couple years ago. He said, no, that's okay, 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: but I do I don't hold grudges. Thankfully, Baker doesn't 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: hold grudges. I would love to get him on the show, 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: but was that fun to watch last night or what 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: not if you were. 25 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: Holding a Houston Texans ticket and expecting to win. 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: But that's two weeks in a row. Bakers come through 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: in Niklutch cons We've talked about this with the Bears. 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Fit coach, quarterback and Baker Mayfield is a great illustration 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: of what fit means. So think about Baker Mayfield gets drafted, 30 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: goes to Cleveland, chip on his shoulder, out of Oklahoma, 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of an attitude, and then he deals 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: with Hugh Jackson and his ego, and Greg Williams and 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,279 Speaker 1: his ego, and he's got John Dorsey, the former player 34 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: of the GM his ego, and the impulsive owner boy. 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: It was a tender box and Baker Mayfield in Cleveland 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: was the spark. Even the media in Cleveland has a 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: chip on their shoulder for years and years of losing. 38 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: Then it wasn't until Kevin Stefanski showed up in Cleveland. 39 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Ivy Lee cerebral, understated. Baker goes eleven and five, gets 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, wins a game, but everything just didn't 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: feel right. There. Too many fires started by Baker and 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: those guys, just Andrew Berry, Stefanski said, we're gonna start over. 43 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: Easy to say now, but then at the time it 44 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: was just it was just too much sparks and he 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: felt like it needed a fire extinguisher every fifteen minutes 46 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: for a press conference in Cleveland with Baker, then he 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: grows up, he bounces around. He ends up in Tampa. 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: No ego with that coach Todd Bowles, even Keel gm 49 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: great one, Jason Light the owners stay out of the 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: business the media. In Tampa, they've got Super Bowls. They're 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: not bitter, they're supportive, and there's no pressure. And in 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: sleepy Tampa, Baker mayfield the last two weeks. First of all, 53 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: he leads the NFL in passing touchdowns since he got 54 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: to Tampa, game winning drives last two weeks, he's been great. 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: He didn't have to battle the media. He didn't have 56 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: to battle Hugh Jackson or Greg Williams to win the room. 57 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to remake an organization. Tampa's always had players. 58 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: They just could never get the quarterback right, even as 59 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: top receiver Mike Evans. Mecca Buca, no ego, easy going guys, 60 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: remember Obj In Cleveland, the dad gets involved. They're releasing 61 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: stuff to the media, it's just didn't work. So Tampa 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: is a perfect fit for Baker. It's always been a 63 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: little sleepy. I've worked there years ago. Ebar City, fun town, 64 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: but you know, Miami gets all the glare down south 65 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: and Atlanta up north and Tampa just sits there. And 66 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's got an older fan base and very 67 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: loyal and they kind of under the radar and they've 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: been dominating this division. They've always had talent, but they 69 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: could never get the quarterback right. And they go Brady 70 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: to Baker and it's a perfect fit. You know. It's again, 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: nobody in Tampa's got a chip on their shoulder. In Cleveland, 72 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: the GM, the owner, the interim coach, the media, everybody 73 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: had a chip on their shoulder. So it does as 74 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: a matter if it's sports or business or relationships, it's 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: all about fit. And since he arrived in Tampa, he's 76 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: got the most passing touchdowns. He's top five or six 77 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: in everything else. That inner turmoil it's gone. He's got 78 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: a certain quiet resolve and confidence and peace about him. 79 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: It is perfect. Remember when he signed there, it was 80 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: a one year, proven deal. That feels like a decade ago. 81 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: This is his team, his town, his city, his locker room, 82 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: his division. It feels perfect. And this is what we 83 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: say about Chicago to the coach and the quarterback personality 84 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: scheme fit in Tampa, Todd Bowles quiet, understated, no ego, 85 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: he lets he's got a couple of different coordinators, they're 86 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: all working. The GM is one of the best in 87 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: the sport. The personnel is good, the owners stay away, 88 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: the media supportive. They didn't even play that well the 89 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: first two weeks and they're two and zero. Here's Baker. 90 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 4: It's good to see that we haven't even played close 91 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 4: to our best ball in all three phases, and we're 92 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 4: still finding ways to win on the road. And that's 93 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: really important, is to not lose sight of that we're finding. 94 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 5: Ways to win. 95 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: But also we do need to get things fixed in 96 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 4: some of these games. Can make it easier on ourselves 97 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 4: and try and put teams away earlier. But this is 98 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: a good team that we played, so let's we expected 99 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 4: art fought battle. But yeah, it's nice to be on 100 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 4: the right side of it. 101 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: By the way, look at him, handsome, he's happy, he's 102 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: in great shape. If you can go on the road 103 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL, get a punt blocked, give up a 104 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: huge return, not play particularly well, but you have a 105 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: goal line stand. You get Baker the ball with a 106 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: couple of minutes left. They're going to win this division again. 107 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: And Baker's the reason why Baker Mayfield finally found the 108 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: perfect fit. Even when he got hurt here, when he 109 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: got banged up his ankle, that didn't stay down too long. 110 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: You wanted to get out and get That's Baker and 111 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: I'm here for it now, at least in Tampa. I 112 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: am okay. How about the Chargers beating the Raiders so 113 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: twenty games ago, It's hard to believe. Twenty games ago 114 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: the Chargers were mess. They have the thirty second ranked 115 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. Here comes Harbaugh and defensive coordinator 116 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Jesse Mincher. Twenty games later, a few tweaks. It is 117 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: the stickiest secondary in the league. It's the number one 118 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: rated defense in the league. And once again, all Harbaugh 119 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: teams look the same, big, strong, physical, I mean, Geno 120 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: Smith isn't great, but zero for ten on balls downfield 121 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: and three picks. Gino's better than that. In two weeks 122 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs and the Raiders, opposing quarterbacks have a 123 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: sixty one passer rating, best in the league. I don't 124 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: know if they'll be able to keep Jesse Mint or 125 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. Justin Herbert feels like a perfect fit. 126 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: Take out the playoff game in the regular season, the 127 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: nineteen games he's played with hardball three picks. So they're 128 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: a little bit like Philadelphia. They've got their star quarterback, 129 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: they've got their offensive coach, Joe Alt has not surrendered 130 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: a sack or even a pressure. They're just a big, massive, 131 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: physical team, kind of the opposite of Miami. Miami hired 132 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: an offensive coach. It's all flash, no steak. This is 133 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: all substance, tough and physical. I mean Keenan Allen thirty 134 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: three years old, still delivering on third down. So they 135 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: just squeeze you. Herbert doesn't make any big mistakes. He'll 136 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: make one or two huge throws. They are the opposite 137 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: of the team that Jim Harbaugh took over. Powerful, predictable, physical, 138 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: and it's why Justin hurt by the way, smalltown Oregon kid. 139 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: You don't get any ego. He just wants to win. 140 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: He lives in la and hides. We don't see him anywhere. 141 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: He's super quiet and it's just perfect for Hardball. He 142 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: would struggle with a quarterback that needed constant attention or 143 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: needed validation. Herbert's very secure in who he is. And 144 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: listen the offense, it's still it feels like they're probably 145 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: a receiver shy Lad mcconkey's their one, Quinton Johnson's their 146 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: big play receiver. It feels like Keenan Allen's been the 147 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: most valuable. Could they use another receiver, We don't know, 148 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: if a Mario Hampton, Nase Harris. It's good. It hasn't 149 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: been spectacular, but as Hardball said after the win over 150 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: the Raiders, it is all about this defense. 151 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 6: Defense Guardians of victory today. I mean, they had our 152 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 6: back or front or side, and it was a just 153 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 6: a tremendous defensive performance. The turnovers, three interceptions, the fourth 154 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 6: down stops, I man, a incredible stop on the twenty 155 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 6: play drive. You know, over eleven minutes. We had a 156 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 6: ball once in the third quarter. They had it once 157 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 6: in the third quarter, and you know, just stopping to 158 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 6: three points there and just guys just playing like uh, 159 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 6: I mean, it's just meant everything to him. 160 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: And that's the thing with Harball, It's not just the 161 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: offensive stuff. Obviously he's cleaned up Herbert, but this team 162 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: is the opposite from the one he took over. And 163 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: for years and years, the Chargers just didn't spend money 164 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: on the head coach, right they had, They had some 165 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: good coaches, but you always felt like, man, could they 166 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: just go out and spend the big boy money. Well 167 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: they have and this is what you get. This is 168 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: what you get if you're going to hire Urban Meyer 169 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: to run your college football team, or Nick Saban to 170 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: run your college football team, or you hire you know, 171 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: you hire Jim Harbaugh to coach your NFL team, or 172 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: Andy Reid to coach your NFL team. It's not just 173 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: about changing the plays, it's changing the culture. And I 174 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: for personnel, I don't know. They were missing a defensive 175 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: back last night. And again we all know Gino Smith 176 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: broy the fifteenth best quarterback in the league. Zero for 177 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: ten throwing balls downfield. I mean that defense was everywhere. 178 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: There's just no space, no blown coverages. Khalil Max banged up. 179 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: He'll be back before the end of the season. But 180 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: Jay mcka had to be impressed. I thought it was 181 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: going to be a closer game. But it is interesting 182 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: a couple In his first draft, Harball went and spent 183 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, two fifth round picks. He went and got 184 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: a couple of cornerbacks obviously that he had recruited or 185 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: played against in Michigan. They both hit. So it's just 186 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: I look at him. How good is their personnel? It's good. 187 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: But when you lead the NFL the last twenty games 188 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: in defense, a lot of that is culture and coaching. 189 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: I totally agree that Jesse Minter stuff. You know, he's 190 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: going to be a hot commodity that defense. They got 191 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: a lot of no name dudes out there, and Khalil 192 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: Mack went down. I was like, oh, wow, Raiders are 193 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: gonna have a shot here. They couldn't do anything. Just 194 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: a quick note on Harball Colin. Remember last week I 195 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: was bemoaning the Chiefs. They looked like the same team 196 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: the last few years. They haven't changed or reinvented themselves. 197 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: I'm watching Chargers. Last year they were doing heavy sets, 198 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: a lot of two tight ends. They were throwing the 199 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: guys like Will Disley's. 200 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: Stone smart, you know, random tight ends. 201 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: This year wide receivers and it's Keenan Allen who looked 202 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: so good by the way he was available on the 203 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: market for like two months. 204 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: Anybody could have gone and got Keenan Allen. Well and 205 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: the Chargers pick him up. We talk about fit. He 206 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: was in Chicago, didn't do anything. Yeah, he comes back 207 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: to the Chargers with Justin Herbert and he's fantastic. So 208 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: he's a guy that's thirty three multiple surgeries. He remains 209 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: I would say Mike Evans in the NFC, Keenan Allen 210 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: and the AFC have been these all time great third down, 211 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: big play, red zone wide receiver. He's a tough matchup. 212 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't run particularly well and not as well as 213 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: he used to. But again, with this offense they got. 214 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: They got the twitchy guy and Ladd mconkey. They've got 215 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: the over the top guy in Quinton Johnson, and then 216 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: they've got the dependable third down guy in Keenan Allen. 217 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: So everybody on their receiving corps has a role. It's 218 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: not about it. It's not the fastest or the deepest, 219 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: but everybody's got a third down guy, a quick slot guy, 220 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: and over the top big guy, and Herbert delivers to 221 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: all of them. 222 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 3: I know we're gonna do the Herd hierarchy in forty 223 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 3: five minutes. But Colin, I, you look at the AFC, 224 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: it kind of sort of feels like Baltimore and Buffalo 225 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: at the top, and the Chargers are right there. 226 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: I don't know who's better than them in the. 227 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: AFC right now. Well, here's the thing. They have a 228 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: much better defense than Buffalo and Baltimore kill right now. 229 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: They don't have the explosiveness on offense of those two teams, 230 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: but I would say they have arguably the best coach 231 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: of it and the best defense that you can't dispute. 232 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,359 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 233 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: and neonon eastern nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 234 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 235 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 7: Hey it's me Rock Parker. 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So 246 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: we're two weeks down. We headed in a week three 247 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: Thursday Night, Buffalo is gonna hammer Miami. They're gonna have 248 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: That's probably gonna be a very fluid situation in Miami. 249 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: If you watch Mike McDaniel at the podium through the 250 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks, like he looks unnerved, he has 251 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: lost his fastball. Like the whole organization now is just 252 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: swimming in uncertainty. And so I think that will be decided. 253 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't if they get blown out, somebody may lose 254 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: a job. That's what it feels like in Miami, all right, 255 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: j Mac it is the herd hierarchy. Just a heads up. 256 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: The chiefs are not in it. I'll explain that in 257 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: a second, and here we go. 258 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy. Now go the top ten NFL teams according 259 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: to College number ten. 260 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: I think the Indianapolis Colts have a much better roster 261 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: than people want to admit. They've already got a star 262 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: in Tyler Warren, Jonathan Taylor, Michael Pittman, Pierce offensive line 263 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: controlled the NFL leading team in sacks Denver. Denver could 264 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: not get the Daniel Jones, first team in NFL history 265 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: that went ten for ten first ten possession. I've been 266 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: on this for two years. I think they have an 267 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: excellent roster. They've drafted incredibly well. I like their players. 268 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: If Jones plays at this B to B plus level, 269 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna win this division. Colts at ten, number nine 270 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: Commanders now played Packers Thursday. They're gonna be fine because 271 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin held out Jaden Daniels and they're one of 272 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: six teams without a giveaway this season. Like last year, 273 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: they're very efficient. They don't give it away. They just 274 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: haven't been able to get the offense right because McLaurin 275 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: was a holdout. Well, now off the Packer loss, they 276 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: get extra time Deebo and McLaurin. They play the Raiders 277 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: who just lost at home. I think Washington, I'm a 278 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: buyer here, is going to this week look like the 279 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: Washington of last year. I like them. They're the oldest 280 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: team in the league. They've got veteran leadership. I like 281 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: Washington at nine, number eight. I got to give the 282 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers credit. They're not even healthy. Top ten 283 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: in total offense, top ten in total defense two to zero, 284 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: both wins on the road. That accounts for something. They've 285 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: been great on third down, one of the two teams 286 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: picking up first downs at over a fifty percent rate. 287 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: And again Brandon Nyuk's hurt, George Kittle brought pretty. Christian 288 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: McCaffrey leads the NFL in touches right now. So I'm 289 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: always impressed when you can deal with injuries, go on 290 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: the road and win, I don't care who you play. 291 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Niners at eight, number seven, Tampa Bay. Again, they haven't 292 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: played great football, but they've won two road games, and 293 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: dating back to last season, they've won eight of their 294 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: last nine regular season games. Baker Mayfield since he arrived, 295 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: leads the NFL in touchdown passes, second in passing yard 296 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: since twenty twenty three. And last night was classic. They 297 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: got a punt block, their special teams were a mess, 298 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: and they go on the road and win and so 299 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: and they haven't had Tristan Wirfs, they haven't had Chris Godwin. 300 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: So just like Washington, just like some of these teams 301 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: in front, when you can win and you don't have 302 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: some of your best players like San Francisco and Tampa. 303 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: You're making the hurt hierarchy. Number six, maybe I have 304 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: them too low. I'd put the Chargers. I do wonder 305 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: if Hampton and Najie Harris when they're going to pop. 306 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: Joe Alt's been great moving over to left tackle. But 307 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: let's be honest about the Chargers right now. Yeah, their 308 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: offense hasn't played well, and they've beaten the Chiefs, and 309 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: they've gone on the road and beaten the Raiders. Justin 310 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: Herbert under Jim Harbaugh thirty touchdowns and three picks. They 311 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of sizzle. But Quinton Johnson emerging 312 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: is a non bust and actually a legitimate deep threat. 313 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: Matters a lot. 314 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: Number five. 315 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: The Ravens. I worry about the back end of their defense. 316 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: But Lamar Jackson seven touchdowns, no picks in a passer 317 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: rating of one hundred and thirty six. I compared him 318 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 1: last hour to those great Atlanta Brave teams that won 319 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: a World Series. You can just pencil them in to 320 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: win their division. The GM, the coach, the owner, all 321 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: great across the board. Now their pass defense is going 322 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: to bite them in that you know what, at some 323 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: point this year, but through two weeks, best offense in 324 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: the league. Number four the Bills. I worry about the 325 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: back end of their defense, which actually looks slow, but 326 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: they're averaging thirty five and a half points a game, 327 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: Number one total offense in the league. They actually run 328 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: the football more than people give them credit for. James 329 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: Cook is really good. And their schedule is Tomato Cams, Dolphins, Saints, 330 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: Patriots coming up like Brady in this division, They're going 331 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: to win it as long as Josh Allen's in his prime. 332 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: But I again worry about the back end of this 333 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: defense because in the AFC there's too many good quarterbacks. 334 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: The Chiefs are going to get healthy. These games are 335 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: going to be close. Number three the Rams. Their pass 336 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: rush is insane, highest graded offense, highest gradded passer in 337 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. Again, this team least penalized in the NFL 338 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: last year, and their defense was the youngest. Eight sacks 339 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: from six different players. I couldn't even tell you the 340 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: last time they missed on a defensive draft pick. So 341 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean they're zero to two against the Eagles, nine 342 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: to zero against everybody else in their last eleven game. 343 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: I have the Rams at three number two Philadelphia. Their 344 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: passing game worries me. I mean, they're the first team 345 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: to go to and zero to start a season without 346 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: a passing touchdown in twenty five years, so Jalen hurts. 347 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean AJ Brown has six catches for about thirty 348 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: five yards, So I don't know how that's gonna work out. 349 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: And you know, it almost feels like now more often 350 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: than not. They're reliant on the toush push, but they're 351 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: not playing offensively with a lot of tempo, and they 352 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: don't they don't create fear. They just sort of squish 353 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: you for three and a half hours. I have them 354 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: at two number one. Listen. I don't think green Bay 355 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: as a flaw. I think the cake was really good 356 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: and then you added the icing and Micah Parsons coach 357 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: quarterback run game. Nobody in the league drafts tight ends 358 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: and wide receivers better than green Bay. They're stacked and 359 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: they're not paying any of them. So I think green 360 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: Bay is by far and away right now the best 361 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: team in the league. I have Kansas City at eleven. 362 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: I have Denver troubling, they've been sloppy at twelve. Again, 363 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs will start winning games now Xavier 364 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: Worthy comes back, but I couldn't say the last time 365 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs were not in our heard Hierarchy. 366 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 367 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: and neon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 368 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 369 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: And with that, my friend Nick Wright joining us live. 370 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: He by didn't like that Colt's pick. Well, Fred, it's bad. 371 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: You mean you know, I mean you're right, Colin. 372 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 5: I don't like. 373 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 8: I don't like when you do bad things. I have 374 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 8: so much respect for you that yeah, you're right. 375 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: I saw that. You know what it reminded me of? 376 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 8: And you John Anouther Roster and Daniel Jones Herd Hierarchy 377 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 8: twenty twenty four, Week three. Have you seen the Saints 378 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 8: and Derek our start two? 379 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 5: It oho? 380 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 8: Alvin Kamar looks like young Alvi Kamara, soft division look 381 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 8: out for New Orleans. I don't know if they've won 382 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 8: a game since then. I'm not saying that's what's gonna 383 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 8: happen to the Colts, but it feels very Saints have 384 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 8: the best open to a season and franchise history. 385 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: Ish I do want. 386 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 8: But and listen, the Chiefs right now don't deserve If 387 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 8: it's based purely on this season, lean out of the 388 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 8: top ten, that's fine, and I think it's what you're right, 389 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 8: and I think what you're saying is correct, which is 390 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 8: they if this were a team's most likely to win 391 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 8: the Super Bowl ranking, they would be firmly in the 392 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 8: top ten. But it's where they are right now, So 393 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 8: I'm fine with that. I would like if I may 394 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 8: to spend a moment on the Niners, because for you 395 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 8: and I, it's really been a fun last fifteen months 396 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 8: watching than Niners, because you, you know, folks like you 397 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 8: and I were like, hey, Jimmy Garoppolo's fine, probably not 398 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 8: the bus driver there, and folks are like, look at 399 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 8: his winning percentage. And then he leaves there and he's 400 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 8: a career back up. And then rock Perty comes in 401 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 8: and we're like, yeah, Brockberty's fine, but he's not really 402 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 8: the lead. 403 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 5: Actor of the movie. 404 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 8: Books like, hey, he left the Super Bowl field with 405 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 8: a lead what do you give. 406 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 5: The manage respect? He deserves his. 407 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 8: Fifty million, And then you and I were like, well, 408 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 8: maybe if he didn't have all his weapons wouling me 409 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 8: quite as good. And then last year he doesn't and 410 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 8: they win five games. And then this year it's like, 411 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 8: what if you replace rock Perty with a guy everyone 412 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 8: agrees can't play? 413 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 5: How would that guy look? 414 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 8: And that guy who's the best game he's played in 415 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 8: three years? And now those same people are staring down 416 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 8: the barrel of am I gonna have to make the 417 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 8: argument that Mac Jones actually is great? 418 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 5: Or am I gonna have to fold my hand? And 419 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 5: you know what? 420 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 8: They are looking at Mac Jones rookie year Pro bowl 421 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 8: er ten wins. Maybe it's just you know, it took 422 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 8: a while to ripen. So I think the Niners Shanahan 423 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 8: deserves a lot of bready for what he's done thus 424 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 8: far this season, I do it. Can I ask you 425 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 8: one charger question and then I'll give you a showback? 426 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 427 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 5: I am. 428 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 8: The thing I've liked the least about the Chiefs start 429 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 8: to their year is how much Patrick is running. He 430 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 8: saves that for the playoffs he gets, and now he's getting. 431 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 5: I don't love that he feels like he has to. Man. 432 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 8: I feel like they are putting Herbert in jeopardy early 433 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 8: and often, and I don't love that. And late last 434 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 8: night when the game is wrapped up they call a 435 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 8: quarterback designed run like I think he is playing the 436 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 8: best ball of his life, without question. I don't love 437 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 8: them spending a first round pick on a running back 438 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 8: and Justin Herbert's leading them in rushing. 439 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 5: I don't love that. 440 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: No, And I think they've felt ash Reiver shy for three, 441 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: four or five years and Keenan Allen has been But 442 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, Keenan's not going to play seventeen weeks. He won't. 443 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: He'll get banged up. So I just said this before 444 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: in Last Hour. I don't know what Nause, Harris and 445 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: Hampton become, but it's got to be better than this. 446 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: If you want to in the AFC, it's got to 447 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: be better than this. I would say this. I started 448 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: my show saying this. It's years ago. A couple of 449 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: years ago. I offered Baker to podcast at the volume 450 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: and he said no. But Colin and I are frenemies. 451 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: Were all good, and so much of what I see 452 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: with Ben Johnson and Caleb, which is two talented people 453 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: that don't fit Baker is perfect in Tampa because Cleveland 454 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: was all Hugh Jackson and Greg Williams and the bitter 455 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland media. And he goes to sleepy Tampa, and right 456 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: now there is no argument he's a top seven, eight 457 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: nine quarterback in the league. And I think Tampa is 458 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: a It's the perfect marriage, right like it just that 459 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: no pressure. The media is helpful. They're not bitter. What 460 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: do you make of what you're watching? 461 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 5: All right? So a few things. 462 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 8: One is, maybe take another run at Baker with the 463 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 8: pod now that I'm part of the Volume team. Unlike 464 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 8: you guys, Baker and Iron frenemies, we're just actual friends. 465 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 8: I'd even be maybe if you wanting to do an 466 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 8: extra pod a week if Bake Show's doing it with me, 467 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 8: so we should talk about that. As far as your 468 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 8: top seven or eight right over the last two years, Colin, well, 469 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 8: a year and two weeks since the beginning of last season, 470 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 8: he is top three or four in the NFL in 471 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 8: everything in yards, in touchdowns, and rating and completion percentage. 472 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 5: Right now, Colin, if you were to. 473 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 8: Do an MVP list, he justin Herbert and Lamar in 474 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 8: some order or another, probably the top three. And I 475 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 8: think Tampa has a real shot at and listen, I 476 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 8: picked Tampa to go to the super Bowl in large 477 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 8: part because I thought they could have the number one seed. 478 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 8: I think Philly and Green Bays divisions are so much 479 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 8: tougher than what Baker's going to be dealing with. 480 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 5: I think they could have an. 481 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 8: Extraordinary season and starting the year two games on the road, 482 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 8: two games trailing late, two games game winning drives. 483 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 5: That's pretty special. 484 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 8: Now to your point about Cleveland, I think Cleveland could 485 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 8: have been perfect for him, and the fact like Cleveland was, 486 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 8: his ruggedness and trash talking and all of it should 487 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 8: have fit Cleveland. But the Browns, in their infinite wisdom, 488 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 8: saw a player. 489 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 5: They drafted number one overall. 490 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 8: Win a playoff game for the Cleveland Browns in year three, 491 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 8: then almost upset the Chiefs in Arrowhead to go to 492 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 8: the AFC title game. 493 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a year later. 494 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 8: Because Odell's dad put out a mixtape of misthrows, they 495 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 8: were like, we can do better. It's one of the 496 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 8: biggest missteps any Tam. Tam has made it in the 497 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 8: most important position in decades. 498 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 5: You drafted the kid number one overall. 499 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 8: He sets the rookie record for touchdown passes after you 500 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 8: had gone one and thirty one the two years before 501 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 8: he got there. Year three, he's winning a playoff game 502 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 8: against Pittsburgh and you're done with him. It was bananas 503 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 8: what happened. And I'm so glad he is now establishing 504 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 8: himself and now staring at this coming off season one 505 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 8: of those fifty five million dollars a year contracts, because 506 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 8: at the moment he's one of the two best bargains. 507 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 5: And olds in the whole sport. 508 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was saying this morning, there's ten two 509 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: and oh teams and ten oh to two teams, and 510 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: most of the oh and two teams are the teams 511 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: that every April lead the draft. Take the Chiefs out, 512 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: They'll make the playoffs. They're going to be fine. I 513 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: think they're fine. And I also think Houston's okay. They 514 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: just can't run block and CJ. Strouds running for his life, 515 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: so they Colts look better. Blah blah blah. But I 516 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: do think there's a true it's about the NFL with 517 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: a hard cap, that ownership matters, gms matter, And I 518 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: look at the Chicago Bears and I said this yesterday. 519 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: Wonderful people get divorced and find their perfect mate. It 520 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're bad people, but fit is important. And 521 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is a timing structure coach, and Caleb is 522 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: terrific in opening drives and then he starts freelancing and 523 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it fits. It doesn't mean Caleb 524 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: couldn't work with Andy Reid, but I watched this Chicago 525 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: thing and I'm like, guys, it's not the coaching because 526 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: on script, the two opening drives have been remarkable. But 527 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: Caleb is just too talented. There's too much horsepower, you know, 528 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: to put him in a box. Nick, I don't think 529 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: it works. I don't think Ben and Caleb works. 530 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 8: So I here is my pushback on that one is 531 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 8: even and I saw your really great and I say 532 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 8: that sincerely, really great spot with Tom Brady last week 533 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 8: when you mentioned that your new kind of line of 534 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 8: demarcation is Thanksgiving year two and that you've sped it 535 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 8: up from where you were previously. Even by that kind 536 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 8: of expedited process, we're not there yet with Caleb. We're 537 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 8: certainly not there yet with Caleb and Ben, who have 538 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 8: two games together. My other pushback to what would be 539 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 8: Ben Johnson picked the Bears because of Caleb, so he 540 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 8: must think that. I mean, he obviously watched Caleb, knew 541 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 8: who he was as a player, and said, yes, that's 542 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 8: where I want to go. So I think you are 543 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 8: being a little hasty in that regard that this won't work. 544 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 8: I do think work in Progress is correct. I also 545 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 8: must tell you I feel personally a little silly dissecting 546 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 8: Caleb Williams when right above his on the bar it 547 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 8: says the Bears allowed. 548 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 5: Fifty two points to the Lions. 549 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 8: I do think that probably was the bigger problem on 550 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 8: Sunday than Caleb freelancing a little bit. 551 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: I said, this is that if I used an example 552 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: of a young attorney goes to a law firm in 553 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: your hometown of Kansas City. He's ivy league, he's sharp, 554 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: but it's an old law firm with established partners, and 555 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: after about three years he's like, guys, I'm not getting 556 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: any cases. I'm going to go to another law firm. 557 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: Everybody in the law firm would be like, totally get it. 558 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: Even the partners totally get it. When Jalen Brunson leaves 559 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: the Mavericks, he likes, I need the ball in my hands, guys, 560 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: I need shots. Everybody's like, yeah, of course he does. 561 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: Luke is the better player, but aj Brown plays Tennessee 562 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: the most run centric team Philadelphia even more run centric. 563 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: He's a top three receiver. Arguably he's an NBA player 564 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: that can't get any shots. But yet in the NFL, 565 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: which is all about the shield and unity and follow 566 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: the it's like a guy can't ask for a trade. 567 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: I would totally support AJ Brown if he just said, guys, 568 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: I love you. I got five catches for thirty yards. 569 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: This is a terrible fit. Go throw to Devonte Am 570 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: I wrong on this. 571 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 8: No, and I so a couple things. One is and 572 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 8: you should. I'll email it to him if you want, 573 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 8: because if you this, I hadn't heard you make this point. 574 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 8: AJ Brown told us as much. Days after the Super Bowl, 575 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 8: he posted an Instagram photo talking about how and then 576 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 8: he wrote in the caption, and I'm paraphrasing, but about 577 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 8: how the satisfaction of the Super Bowl lasted two days. 578 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 8: And then he said, and again I'm paraphrasing, but it's 579 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 8: almost a direct quote where I get my love for 580 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 8: the game is what demoralizing a defensive back is showing 581 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 8: my excellence. 582 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 5: He told us that's who he. 583 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 8: Is, and that's part of the reason he's become so 584 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 8: great that while winning is fun, what he plays for 585 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 8: is you know, dominating his matchup. And I happen to 586 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 8: think that if Ceedee Lamb catches a ball and if 587 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 8: Travis Kelce catches a ball, and the Eagles, instead of 588 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 8: being two to zero, are either zero to two or 589 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 8: even one and one. This is already a huge story 590 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 8: in Philadelphia because the fact of the matter is their 591 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 8: passing game, which remember last year when they were already 592 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 8: on a nine game winning streak. AJ Brown after the 593 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 8: Carolina game said we need to improve on passing. That 594 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 8: then led to you know, the Jalen's big game against 595 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 8: the Steelers, aj Reidan on the sideline, all of it, the. 596 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Whole thing they were. 597 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 5: In the midst of. 598 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 8: They hadn't lost in months. He was frustrated. Now he's 599 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 8: getting less targets, less opportunity at any point in his 600 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 8: career because they haven't lost. I think it is at 601 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 8: a simmer. It will absolutely be at a full boil 602 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 8: if they play this style on Sunday and the Rams 603 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 8: beat them. And what I do think is noteworthy is 604 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 8: unlike last year when Saquon was in route to two 605 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 8: thousand yards and they were blowing people out, the Eagles 606 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 8: deserve credit for getting those wins. But it's not as 607 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 8: if if AJ said, hey, we can be better on offense, 608 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 8: he would be wrong. Their offense had Their best offensive 609 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 8: play has been Jalen hurd scrambles and the Tush push 610 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 8: where the entire team lines up off sides and the 611 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 8: guards false start. But the NFL allows it like they 612 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 8: have not been prolific right now. And I don't wouldn't frustrate. 613 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 8: I wouldn't mind I AJ or blame AJ if you 614 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 8: were frustrated. 615 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, finally, I said this yesterday. Joe Burrow, it gets 616 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: hurt a lot, and you can blame the ownership in 617 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: the old line, but Justin Fields gets hurt a lot, 618 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: and Justin Fields puts himself in harm way. Now Josh 619 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: Allen can get away with it. But I watched Big 620 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: Ben and Cam Newton huge man six five sixty. I 621 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: watched them age overnight why they took shots. And I 622 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: watched Joe Burrow. It's like, Joe, you're you've got a 623 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: normal frame. It's a six two and a half ish 624 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: two twenty five man. I'm just saying it is also 625 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: in coming. I watched Eli Manning literally drop throw it 626 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: away pre snamp reads get out of hits is correct. 627 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 5: This is Burrow. 628 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, so this is tricky because listen, it's primarily on 629 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 8: the Bengals. That offensive line's been bad for five years. 630 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: It's there's the but. 631 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 8: Burrow is so I'm so it's so interesting you said 632 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 8: big Ben because I evoked him in this same discussion 633 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 8: yesterday for a slightly different reason. Last year, right, take 634 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 8: the Chiefs with Patrick. The offensive line is a mess, 635 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 8: and Patrick begrudgingly, he's like, Okay, I guess it's going 636 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 8: to be bang bang bang out, dank and dunk, and 637 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 8: you know I'm going to get rid of the ball. 638 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 8: Burrow is so intent and so excellent at what I 639 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 8: called yesterday big game hunting that he is. In week 640 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 8: one and in week two before the injury, he was 641 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 8: getting the snot kicked out of him Colin, And it 642 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 8: wasn't like immediate pressure. It was he could have checked 643 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 8: it down, he could have thrown away. He's trying to 644 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 8: hunt the big play, which you know he had five 645 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 8: thousand yards unbelievable year last year. You know, got mvpvospite 646 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 8: missing the playoffs, so he was rewarded for it. But 647 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 8: it wasn't shocking to me. He got hurt. 648 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 5: It was sad. 649 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 8: It makes you worried about him, but sometimes you have 650 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 8: to protect yourself in different ways. And I the reason 651 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 8: I mentioned big Ben is in the pocket, Colin. He 652 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 8: plays a lot like Ben did, which is, there might 653 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 8: be people at my feet, I'm staying there. I'm gonna 654 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 8: shake you off. But Big Ben was called big Ben 655 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 8: because he was six five and a half, huge and 656 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 8: impossible to bring down. 657 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 5: Burrow playing this. 658 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 8: Style is just risky, and it's it again. 659 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 5: It feels almost like victim. 660 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 8: Blame me, but your point is correct some your If 661 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 8: you're Joe Burrow, you know if I get hurt, the 662 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 8: team is absolutely ruined. If we don't hit this third 663 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 8: and eight, we can recover from it. And it's a 664 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 8: shame that he now this is where I'll leave it, Colin. 665 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 8: He is likely going to hold a record that no 666 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 8: one else will ever come close to and that no 667 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 8: one else wants, which is next year he likely becomes 668 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 8: the NFL's first ever three times Comeback Player of the 669 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 8: Year winner. 670 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 5: And you don't want that. 671 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 8: And it's a shame for Joe because he's such a 672 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 8: great player. 673 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like a ten million dollar chandelier. In an 674 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: empty mansion. They have no run game, so he's always 675 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: throwing on third and long. They don't protect him, they 676 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: got they don't spend money on defense, so he's only 677 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: able to win shootouts. You know, mahomes can win low 678 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: scoring games. I mean, they're tied with the Eagles ten, 679 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: ten and a half. But there is something to be 680 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: said about And again it's I'm not saying maybe it's 681 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: eighty twenty on the Bengals, but when guys there's something hurt, 682 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: there's something Yeah. 683 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 8: And I'm going to give your producers one other job 684 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 8: real quick. You just said ten million dollars chandelier. There's 685 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 8: a great meme that describes that it's a Lamborghini parked 686 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 8: in front of a traphouse. Throw that on the screen 687 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 8: for Colin at some point. He'll like it, because that's 688 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 8: what the Bengals built. Burrow Chase Higgins is as nice 689 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 8: of a trio as you get it. Everything else as 690 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 8: you know, leaky faucets and cracked foundations. 691 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: It's no good. Good to see you, brother, all right, Nick, 692 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: Great great stuff.