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Speaker 1: Who do you who?

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Speaker 2: This is a quick announcement to say that we Sam

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Speaker 2: Taggart and George Severs are going on a stand up tour.

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Speaker 2: That's right, a stand up tour, no podcasting allowed this

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Speaker 2: summer and fall.

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Speaker 3: It's called Sam and George stand Up Tour. It rhymes

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Speaker 3: kind of, and we're going to Chicago, Philly, DC, Boston, Toronto,

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Speaker 3: San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: And maybe more locations TBD TV. Let's just say we're

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Speaker 2: looking into it. And sometimes that has worked for us

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Speaker 2: in the past, and sometimes it hasn't.

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Speaker 3: But folks come see us split an hour stand up

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Speaker 3: and we're so excited to see you.

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Speaker 1: We're so excited.

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Speaker 2: stradio Lab. That's linktree dot com slash stradio Lab.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy the app podcast starts now. Wow wow wow wow

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Speaker 3: wow wow wow. Welcome all to Stradio Lab. You are

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Speaker 3: catching us both bi coastally and we are yawning.

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Speaker 1: We are yawning. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: I have an excuse because, as you know, I've self

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Speaker 3: diagnosed as a narcoleptic.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because sometimes I just really need to sleep, like

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Speaker 3: for sure, like in a way that's like it's not

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Speaker 3: for long, it's like for like five to ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: But when it hits, I say, I'm having a narcoleptic

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Speaker 3: attack and I need to sleep, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: what else. You know, it could be.

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Speaker 1: You know that happens to me with being horny.

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Speaker 3: You know that happens to me being horny too.

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Speaker 2: That's sometimes it's I would say, it's uh, it's kind

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Speaker 2: of almost terrend It's like, you know, I think it's

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Speaker 2: there will be just a ten minute period where I'm like,

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Speaker 2: all right, let's we got to find a solution here.

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Speaker 3: Does it pass or do you just have to no,

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Speaker 3: take care of it?

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Speaker 2: I think no, it can pass, but you know you

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Speaker 2: have to obviously it's not you know, if I'm if

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Speaker 2: I'm on a subway, there's nothing I can do about it.

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Speaker 3: Sure, do you ever have that thing? Okay? I want

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Speaker 3: to hear Okay, this is kind of scary. Do you

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Speaker 3: ever like, so say you're really horny one one moment

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Speaker 3: and then you like obviously you let it pass, and

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Speaker 3: then you know, like four hours later, you're like, I'm

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Speaker 3: it's because I was horny and I didn't do anything

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Speaker 3: Here is that to you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, obviously, and it also happens famously

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Speaker 2: millennial term angry that we all were so into and

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Speaker 2: approximately twenty thirteen. But I want to actually run something

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Speaker 2: by you, which is, like, there's this idea that anger

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Speaker 2: I guess my question is where do you stand on that?

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Speaker 2: And where do we think that comes from?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I do know what you mean. I know exactly what

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Speaker 3: So let's let's take that anger and let's like make

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Speaker 3: because it's like, well, even if it's like started because

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Speaker 3: I'm in a bad mood and and I'm quite cranky.

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Speaker 2: No, I think that one of the best things we

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Speaker 3: Respect to you know what?

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Speaker 2: You know what Actually this is related to what is

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Speaker 2: of course you get into like what is behind it?

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Speaker 2: Are you gay because you had some sort of childhood experience?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but then there are people that are angry all

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Speaker 2: And of course that's where that's what's difficult about it

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Speaker 1: That guy does have some psychological damage that we there's.

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Speaker 3: Some damage in there. There is some real damage in there.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: The first what this is all leading to is that

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Speaker 2: is to determine whether someone's anger is valid or whether

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Speaker 3: And here's first of all, I one hundred percent agree.

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Speaker 3: Second of all, I have to say, you know where

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Speaker 3: I was angry in New York City last Tuesday and

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Speaker 3: And I said, now, this is a healthy way to

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Speaker 3: Where do they put their anger? They're not strutting, They're

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Speaker 2: No that okay, you know what they are doing though,

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Speaker 2: But legitimately what they are doing reiki, They are doing meditation,

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Speaker 2: They are practicing so hard. And guess what, the big

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just unhealthy. I think everyone just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, angry and even and in New York.

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Speaker 2: Also, if you're walking in New York, you can do

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Speaker 3: Of course, the stomp, you.

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Speaker 1: Shake it out.

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Speaker 3: That's a suppression. You're suppressing it. Quite frankly, you're bottling

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Speaker 1: In Los Angeles in California with the drought.

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Speaker 3: With the drought and everything.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're filling a pool every day and all

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Speaker 2: of it is literally because you can't confront your own anger.

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Speaker 3: You need to go for a walk.

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Speaker 2: And guess what, you know, why you're angry because you

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Speaker 2: failed at that audition. It's really not that complicated. You're

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Speaker 2: but like people have experienced that from the beginning, being

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Speaker 2: an actor is the first job. That's what Mary Magdalene did.

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Speaker 2: She wanted to do comedy, but she was pigeonholed as

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Speaker 3: I mean her first big role, of course, was pretending,

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Speaker 2: She was doing a cabaret act.

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Speaker 3: It's like Lord, It's like Lord.

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Speaker 2: He's literally like Lord, yes, exactly. Lord is referencing Mary Magdalene.

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Speaker 2: And and by the way, all the people that are

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Speaker 1: They don't get the reference. I don't get the very Magdalen.

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Speaker 3: She's playing with the idea of lying.

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Speaker 1: Hello, whatever culture is. The culture is stupid.

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Speaker 3: The culture is stupid.

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Speaker 1: You know you know what?

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Speaker 2: The culture isn't lit Alalana dol Ray, It's actually stupid.

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Speaker 1: The culture is stupid. And I did not have a

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Speaker 1: ball anyway, anyway, should bring in our guest?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, please, welcome to the podcast. What nothing? You do it? Then? No,

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Speaker 3: you do it?

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Speaker 1: No, stop talking. We haven't brought you in.

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Speaker 3: It's all right, you're ruining the episode.

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Speaker 2: Okay, please welcome to the podcast. I guess I'll have

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Speaker 2: to edit all of this out. Zach Zimmerman, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. Boys, it's great to be here.

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Speaker 4: I was just cross referencing the DSM five and everything

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Speaker 4: you said about anger is actually completely correct.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, consider yourself an angry person.

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Speaker 4: No, it's actually one of my lowest emotions. I'm a

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Speaker 4: my ex was a very angry person.

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Speaker 5: I don't, I don't. I can't have anger in the house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, call him out. What's his full name?

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Speaker 4: John Croccoh, that just popped right out. No one's ever asked.

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Speaker 5: That's so beautiful. Thank you for caring.

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Speaker 4: I did do a stomp though recently, I went to

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Speaker 4: the New York Liberty game, my very first one, go Liberty,

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Speaker 4: and since someone the other team missed two free throws

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Speaker 4: all got free Shakesheck as an audience. So the next

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Speaker 4: day I go to Shakeshack, but it's with purchase, and

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Speaker 4: I was angry at that moment because I felt lied to.

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Speaker 4: I just walked half an hour to get free Shakesheck,

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Speaker 4: and eventually the guy gave in and agreed with me

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Speaker 4: that the JumboTron did not say with purchase, and he

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Speaker 4: gave me a free check check. But he said thank

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Speaker 4: you for your hard feedback. And I was like, what, okay,

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Speaker 4: give me the food I don't want to give you.

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Speaker 4: That was my I was going to But I thought

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Speaker 4: he was like, can I take a picture of your picture?

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Speaker 2: But I have sick psychological mind games with this person,

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, oh my god, poor Zach like wakes

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Speaker 1: But actually, you are.

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Speaker 2: Going to a low wage worker and performing this kind

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Speaker 4: Thoughts, I contain multitudes One two as a former low

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Speaker 2: You're exploring bisexuality or leda.

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Speaker 1: Really I sort of think those are related.

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Speaker 3: I had so many follow up questions to the other thing,

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Speaker 2: I actually think there's nothing more bisexual than passive, aggressively

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Speaker 4: And it felt ultimately I win because I learned that

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Speaker 4: to the Shakesheck, so I got lunch and dinner on

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, but I think I.

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Speaker 5: It was their first time processing a promotion like this.

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Speaker 2: It was their first time dealing with bisexuald at Shakeshack.

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Speaker 4: The bisexual community was at Shakeshack demanding lesbians wanted their burgers,

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Speaker 4: and they were buckling under the pressure of that onslaught.

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Speaker 3: So when you went to this Shakeshack to get your

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Speaker 4: This is not my first rodeo, Sam. I knew there

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Speaker 4: picture of it. And it does not say with purchase.

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Speaker 4: It says go to Shakeshack. Because we're all everyone in

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Speaker 4: the audience has never yelled louder. We just all won

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Speaker 4: thousands of US one free Shakeshack. The big question is

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Speaker 4: what are the stipulations? So when I see the jumbo tron, yes,

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Speaker 4: I take a picture. I have a receipt. Apparently an

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Speaker 4: email was sent that said with purchase. I didn't get

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Speaker 4: that email. I didn't buy these tickets given to me

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Speaker 4: by a friend. So I go in. I have a picture.

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Speaker 4: Guy bind the counter takes a picture of my picture.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing free consultant labor for them. On the user

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Speaker 4: experience of deeming a free Shakeshack burger, I'm entitled to

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Speaker 4: more than just that. I haven't even told you the

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Speaker 3: What's the worst part?

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Speaker 4: Vegetarians not included. I had to pay an extra dollar

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Speaker 3: This is crazy.

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Speaker 2: The fact that you were charged extra for the veggie

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Speaker 4: I was aghast because you would think in today, when

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Speaker 4: accommodation happening by the left is there, don't you think?

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Speaker 2: Though there's been a backlash and there actually isn't anymore.

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Speaker 2: Like I actually think, wait, Tam, why are you laughing?

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Speaker 3: I just thought that's such a funny sentence.

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Speaker 2: But don't you like there was a golden era? I

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Speaker 2: would say, like having vegie options is very Obama era,

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Speaker 2: Like there was a golden era everything in our communities

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Speaker 2: and then I think, especially in New York, not to

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Speaker 1: Get out of here.

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Speaker 4: I you're not wrong because I went to a cookout,

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Speaker 4: a post Liberty Game cookout. I didn't go to the

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Speaker 4: Liberty Game. But then they literally had no veggie options.

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Speaker 4: The invite said bring your own, like you can put

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Speaker 4: it on our grill, but like we're not providing it.

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Speaker 4: That that's bonkers a little bit to me. It's doesn't

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Speaker 4: buy some doctor Prager's. It doesn't take more than like

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Speaker 4: ten bucks to like throw a frozen veggie patty on

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Speaker 4: the grill. People are upset because they're wrong. Are all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an interesting thing. You just said people

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Speaker 3: I know, I was vegetarian for like four years in

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Speaker 3: if I just started eating meat again. And I did,

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Speaker 3: had both. I could have been a vegetarian and been happy,

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Speaker 3: So I gave up.

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Speaker 5: Come back, Sam, come though.

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Speaker 3: I literally became addicted to me, and I like, it's

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Speaker 2: Okay, gay, I think your twenties are about being a vegetarian,

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Speaker 2: about becoming one again.

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Speaker 3: Wow. I love that. That's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: That's a journey and then having sort of like quasi

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh right, it was ethical in your twenties, it's

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Speaker 4: lower back plan in your forties.

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Speaker 2: Exactly in your twenties, it's ethical. You've read You've read

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Speaker 2: a book about it, you've seen food ink.

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Speaker 1: Then in your thirties exactly, of course, Then in your.

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Speaker 2: Thirties you're like, I'm too busy with work. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to climb the corporate ladder. Everyone is literally out to

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Speaker 2: get me because I work at a homophobic company. I

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Speaker 2: to think about vegie options. And then in your forties,

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Speaker 2: you know, you have a few doctor's appointments, they don't

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Speaker 1: And suddenly, and.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the vegi options have gotten better. You're

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Speaker 3: Well, not to mention you climb the corporate ladder, You're

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Speaker 3: ordering whatever the hell you want.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly it. You Actually, it's easier.

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Speaker 2: You don't need systemic changes to make your life easier

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Speaker 2: as a vegetarian because you have actually pulled yourself up

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Speaker 2: by your bootstraps, by your plethar bootstraps, ethical plethar bootstraps.

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Speaker 4: I'm reading a book that called out out that phrase

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that way.

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Speaker 1: So what is so?

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Speaker 2: Can you give us a first of all, to read

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Speaker 3: And a bootstrap?

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Speaker 1: It does make sense? Yeah, what is a bootstrap?

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Speaker 4: I will in my defense the book sort of that

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Speaker 4: that a brief aside. It was Jenny Odle's Saving Time. Oh,

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Speaker 4: makes that point along the way. I'm catching up.

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Speaker 5: To that book. Sure it came out years ago or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But you the what is interesting about meat right now

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Speaker 4: and veggie and fake meat is fake meat is almost

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Speaker 4: you don't actually have to have morals anymore or sort of.

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Speaker 4: The reason I do it is, you know, because animals

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Speaker 4: other people a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and mission accomplished.

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Speaker 3: I need that.

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Speaker 5: In my thirties, you guys gave up on it.

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Speaker 4: I need some I'm I'm by now it's basically straight,

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Speaker 4: and so I need to tell you do.

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Speaker 2: You keep bringing up being by, and so it stands

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Speaker 5: It's so new and fresh.

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Speaker 4: I'm I used to be whenever I was taking a

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Speaker 5: It's so top of mine for me?

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Speaker 3: Was this like a date? A hookup? What was the date?

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Speaker 5: Plus?

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Speaker 4: But it's been maybe two years now of you know,

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Speaker 4: to speak, returning to oh yeah, oh and they're flooding.

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Speaker 1: It's flooded, flooding.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: But I'm approaching it with just like a beginner's mind,

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Speaker 3: Are the women you're meeting, Like, are there is there

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Speaker 5: Mostly paid?

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Speaker 3: Now are they are they? Like? So you're so you're gay,

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Speaker 4: Like I was debating do I need to put in

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Speaker 4: what I have found is that straight women and I

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Speaker 4: It's really been by women where I'm like, Okay, we

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Speaker 4: share the same understanding of desire. We get that Zach

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Speaker 4: There's like a kinship that I'm finding with them, but

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Speaker 3: That's interesting. I would love to see that in sort

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Speaker 5: Thank you, NBC exec Yes, yes, please please rate in.

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Speaker 2: The main issue in terms of like prejudiced against by

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Speaker 2: She's a cinematographer. Of course she's gonna want to go

438
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,719
Speaker 2: on a date with a bye person.

439
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 5: Get out of my phone, my god, George reading reading

440
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 5: to a t.

441
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 4: There is a if I see a if you're straight,

442
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 4: and I see wants children, I'm like, oh, I can't

443
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 4: give you that. I don't want to waste your time either,

444
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 4: like maybe I want, but like I'm doing, like exploring

445
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 4: I should have been doing at eighteen. I don't want

446
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 4: to waste your thirties and you want to start a family, like,

447
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 4: I can't.

448
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 5: I can't do that to a woman.

449
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 3: I was recently attracted to sort of a skinny, small man,

450
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm bisexual.

451
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 4: My friend did that with the new Miley Cyrus video.

452
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 4: He's like, Miley looks good. Maybe I'm by. I think

453
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 4: everyone's a little by And you'll well hear it out, sure, sure, sure.

454
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 5: Well, there's just brave.

455
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: It is fun. Life is long, and I find it

456
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 3: kind of funny as people that you know are curious

457
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 3: at all. It's like fun to be like, well, yeah,

458
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: you it's gonna shift and change a little bit, like

459
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: and you kind of don't know in which direction. You're

460
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: just like, I'm gonna be into something else in five years,

461
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 3: Like who knows.

462
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 4: Could be pokemon, could be protein bars, could be women.

463
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows?

464
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 5: These are the three options.

465
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 3: That's interesting. Do you find yourself telling people that you're like,

466
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: does the label buy speak to you or do you

467
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 3: feel like it's it feels yeah, tell me about that.

468
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 4: I'm getting more confident in it. Initially I was really

469
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 4: liked a little by or like experimenting with bisexuality. That

470
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 4: felt truer to the newness of it to me. But

471
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 4: now that I've like consummated, I feel more confident in the.

472
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: Label mm hmmm, mm hmm.

473
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: But I'm not yet ready to reject what a strange

474
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 4: thought I've had, and I have shared it with women,

475
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 4: I've gone on a date with the idea of ending

476
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 4: up with a woman is scary to me because I

477
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 4: think it all will erase parts of my life in

478
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 4: a way I don't want them to. So I kind

479
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 4: of want to girl friend and a boyfriend and yeah.

480
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: I mean what you're describing is so funny because that's

481
00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: like the exact thing about like buy women. Like the

482
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: entire sort of like homophobic stereotype is like they are

483
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: going through a phase and they are gonna quote unquote

484
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: end up with the man.

485
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: So you're just like by women for real.

486
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 4: I even made that bi phobic joke to a woman

487
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 4: in the audience that I ended up hooking up with.

488
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 4: She was like, I'm by and I was like, where's

489
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 4: your boyfriend?

490
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 5: Ha ha ha.

491
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 4: But then I asked, like when was I made that noise?

492
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 4: The audience didn't laugh. I went, but then I asked like,

493
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: when was your last eight and she said right now,

494
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 4: And so then I like gave her my number and

495
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 4: we got wine the next night.

496
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 5: Oh my god, this is cleaning up with by women.

497
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 5: You're literally like.

498
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: In high maintenance.

499
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's giving my maintenance for sure. It's so interesting.

500
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: I feel it is it? I don't know, ye, I

501
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of you know, I think there's

502
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: something we've talked about this on the podcast, Like there's

503
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: like a gay guy. We had a person who lives

504
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: in Berlin and she was telling us like gay guys

505
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: in Berlin. The thing to do right now is to

506
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: have a girlfriend. And it's like kind of fun to

507
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: be like, well, yeah, of course I have a girlfriend.

508
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 3: I'm a gay guy living in Berlin. And there's something

509
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 3: where like I feel like our peers who are like,

510
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 3: you know, mostly gay guys, have been like, oh, like

511
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: I would have a threesome with like a man and

512
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: a woman. Like there's like a little dip into like

513
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: what that could be like. But I feel like you're

514
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 3: really putting your money where your mouth is and it's

515
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: like an interesting it's like an interesting dynamic.

516
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: Wait, let's go. Let's do our first segment.

517
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: What do you think, Sam, Yeah, let's do our first segment, Zach.

518
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: Our first segment is called Straight Shooters, And in this segment,

519
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: we test your familiarity with in complicity and gay Oh oh,

520
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 2: look at me saying gay culture instead of strade culture.

521
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm so disoriented by the concept of someone being bisexual

522
00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: that I I've literally like mixed up my cultures, Zach.

523
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: In this game, we test your familiarity with and complicity

524
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: and straight culture by giving you a series of rapid

525
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: fire questions where you have to choose one thing or

526
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: another thing, and the one rule is you can't ask

527
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: any follow up questions about how the game works.

528
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 5: And if you do a question, no, just getting just kidding.

529
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: If you do, we will do biphobia and by erasure

530
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: to you live on air.

531
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 4: I'm so grateful for that rule because whenever I ask

532
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 4: a hypothetical to someone and they start asking questions, I'm like,

533
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: you're robbing the fun of I answer.

534
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 5: I agree, just answer just.

535
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: To people are scared and they're coming from a place

536
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: of fear.

537
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Zach, Bernie would have won?

538
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: Or come on, it will be fun.

539
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 5: And I'm saying which one is straight?

540
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 2: Oh?

541
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: That sounds like a question.

542
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: That sounds like a question.

543
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 4: Wait, wow, wow, I don't am I supposed to pick

544
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 4: one of these things?

545
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 2: I oh my god. Literally, I'm hearing so many questions happening.

546
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

547
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: I always do this. By thing was a phase.

548
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 5: Come on, it'll be fun.

549
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: Great, okay, Zach, a chip off the old block or

550
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: a rip in your old sock?

551
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: Mike pulling up the booking email, like, what is the

552
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 4: game the second one the sock?

553
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: Okay? Seeing Red being bred or giving head.

554
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 4: Seeing Red the Pixar film Turning Red.

555
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: That sounds of questioning tones okay, Zach, a butterface or

556
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: a butter.

557
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 4: Chicken vegetarian butterface, sipping a bordeaux or missing a free throw,

558
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 4: missing a free throw, free shake shack for everyone.

559
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: Scratch and sniff or track and trace.

560
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 5: Track and trace, who gave me what? When? And how?

561
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: Okay, now this one's actually gonna be really multicultural. Are

562
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: you ready?

563
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: Espresso martini or conqusso on that anini?

564
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: The definition of conquesso eludes me ergo espresso martini.

565
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 5: Okay, this is like anti Jeopardy.

566
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Gone with the Wind or a song by Timberland.

567
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 5: A song by Timberlind.

568
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so we rank each guest's performance on a scale

569
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: of zero to one thousand doves.

570
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: Now listen.

571
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: Am I tempted to punish you for asking so many questions?

572
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: Yes? Of course.

573
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 4: I think it's like when you do that riddle where

574
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 4: it's like, don't say no, and then you do the

575
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 4: riddle and they say no. I felt like I got tripped?

576
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: Well or were you given very explicit directions?

577
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, Zach, I can't help but feel that

578
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: you're a person that you know despite Okay, I'm remembering

579
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: the shake shack story, and I'm like, oh, you love

580
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: a rule? You you you you want to You're downright

581
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: litigious if if I'm being honest.

582
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: No, you're taking screenshots of this conversation left and right,

583
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: and you're going to show them to the president and

584
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: CEO of iHeart.

585
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 5: I have yet to fill out the release form. I

586
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 5: was sent.

587
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: Wow, just.

588
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 5: Putting that out there, girls, So I guess it's you know.

589
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: Of course, the difficulty becomes like, I loved what you

590
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: said about how when you ask a hypothetical you hate

591
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: it when someone asks follow up questions. But then the

592
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: second there was any kind of ambiguity, you you you

593
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: freaked out.

594
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: I missed the I don't know if I missed a

595
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 4: sentence or this is part of the twisted, sick game

596
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 4: you guys play with your guests in order to break us.

597
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, was I picking the most straight thing.

598
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: Sam Zach.

599
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: It's not about that.

600
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: It's sort of I would say it is a it

601
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: is an open enough.

602
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: I wasn't prepped well enough. My team didn't prep me

603
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 4: well enough.

604
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: All right, we need it, We need a score, We

605
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: need a score. I'm gonna say I actually like that

606
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: you challenged us, and I like that when you did,

607
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: you know, when we got there finally and you were like, okay,

608
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: I'm answering, then you like got there fast. You started

609
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: answering the questions immediately. And I think we have all

610
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: learned something from this experience. There are other guests, you know,

611
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: we do the segment and then we move on and

612
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: it's like nothing ever happened, whereas this one I'll remember forever.

613
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: So I'm torn between the you know, initial.

614
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: Punish, punish, please, punish, pish.

615
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 5: Teachable moment, reward for a teachable moment punish.

616
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: What if we were right down the middle and it's

617
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: a five hundred, that's the worst.

618
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 5: I want to see the moon. Give me a zero.

619
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: No, it's quomo coded. You got a vomo coded.

620
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: You're you're yes, you are quomo coded. This is a

621
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: your score is a five hundred.

622
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 5: I'm Sohron.

623
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: I'm you wish, you wish, you wish.

624
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: I want to win.

625
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: Oh.

626
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: The whole bisexual thing, it's the original centrism.

627
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: That's right.

628
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: Being bisexual is a definition of five hundred out of

629
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: one thousand doves.

630
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 4: My sexuality is actually perfectly maps to Zohron getting forty

631
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: some percent. It's the exact percentage. I'm like, fifty one

632
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 4: percent gay.

633
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: Beautiful?

634
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 5: What is George the arbiter? Does Sam get to say.

635
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: No, I think I just agreed with George really hard.

636
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: We both get to say, but I usually trusted George

637
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: in this.

638
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, five hundred doves, that's not even it's one significant figure?

639
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 5: Or is it five hundred period?

640
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, five hundred out of a thousand. It doesn't

641
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: sound like a lot. But imagine looking at five hundred doves.

642
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: That would be so majestic.

643
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd still feel you'd still to be honestly.

644
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 5: Flying or sitting in an open field.

645
00:31:59,400 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: Oh, they're.

646
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 5: Five hundred leg up, five hundred legs here.

647
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: You're looking at that, Zach, Are you thinking I wish

648
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: there were twice as many.

649
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm saying that is too many.

650
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, call scientists.

651
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 4: If I see five hundred dead doves, I'm like, something

652
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: happened at the magician's conference.

653
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 5: Call the scientists.

654
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, call her daddy, Okay, Zach, I do want to

655
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: get into topics.

656
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: So, Zach, what is your topic today? And tell us

657
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: what is straight about it?

658
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 5: My topic today?

659
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: And I feel like I'll be breaking news for some people,

660
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: and some people will be nodding along aggressively. Is a

661
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 4: gentleman named Tim Hayden who everyone who knows him will

662
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: know him from TikTok and Instagram as the guy who

663
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: gives away watches.

664
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Speaker 3: So this is breaking news to us. Neither of us

665
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: are familiar with this man already.

666
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is a character, like I can see

667
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: this man.

668
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: The name.

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00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: First of all, the name Tim, people don't realize because

670
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: people love to use names like Chad to talk about

671
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: like the most straight sounding male name. But actually the

672
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 2: name Tim is incredibly straight.

673
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: To me.

674
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 5: I've never met a gay Tim Tim Cook.

675
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: But other than that, it's.

676
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 5: Again, never met him. I stand by what I said,

677
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 5: would love to.

678
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: I know Tim my Fire Island boyfriend Freman third.

679
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, but you know you know that phrase.

680
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: They're the exception that proves the rule that's true.

681
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: Tim is straight. So it explains why he's part of

682
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: straight culture, part of Internet. What's so painful about our

683
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 4: fragmented digital ecosystem is there are celebrities in different communities

684
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: that people have no idea about. This man his stick.

685
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 4: He started a watch company from his kitchen. He's an entrepreneur.

686
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: He's forty seven. He sits in random places around the

687
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: globe with goes live and has people find him. And

688
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: if you find him during a challenge and say a password,

689
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 4: you're giving a free watch. Now the password you must

690
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: have guesses? What do you think the password is?

691
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: It's different?

692
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: Wait, there's the password remains the same.

693
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 4: The same password, it's the same phrase. And it's a

694
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 4: little queer.

695
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: And can I ask you something? How do you find

696
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: out the password by word of mouth?

697
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: It's so interesting. I actually won't be taking any questions.

698
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. That's part of.

699
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: You are loved. If it's queer coded.

700
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 5: You're incredibly close. That is powerful.

701
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Whoa okay?

702
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 3: Okay?

703
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: Is it?

704
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 3: Love is love?

705
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: You're right?

706
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 5: The first word is right.

707
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: Love.

708
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 3: Love is all around us?

709
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 5: Wins further? What else? What describes sort of an adventure?

710
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 3: Love is a battle.

711
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 5: We're all on a we're all on the.

712
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: Journey, but not a journey.

713
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 5: Love possessive loves journey possessive love? Who's journey?

714
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: Your journey? Your journey is love?

715
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 5: Wait, you had it, but you infantilize the word love.

716
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 3: Uh, love is a journey? Love?

717
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, not loves oh love, just love love,

718
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: love your journey.

719
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: Who's your journey? Hashtag love your journey? If you run

720
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 4: up to Tim. These are straight men across the world

721
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 4: are running up to this bald British man and yelling

722
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: love your journey, and he's handing them a watch. And

723
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 4: the Internet loves it. The Internet is so excited about

724
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 4: this man. It's somehow inspirational content when it's just a

725
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 4: watch giveaway.

726
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: It's this is actually like brilliant.

727
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm actually experiencing as Mr levels of hair

728
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: raising excitement right now, like you're telling me.

729
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: There is a man named Tim Hayden.

730
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 6: He started a watch company and from his kitchen, from

731
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 6: his kitchen, folks, he goes live on Instagram and a

732
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 6: bunch of straight guys follow him say love your journey,

733
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 6: love your journey, love your journey, and they get let's

734
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 6: all say it five times so we really remember it.

735
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: Girls.

736
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: I also want to say, it's not to toot our

737
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 2: own horn, and specifically Sam's I guess, but we got

738
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: that pretty fast.

739
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 5: I'm I'm at that clear coded and queer love is love.

740
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: You knew love was in it, but you know what, though,

741
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: I see why you would say that's queer coded, and

742
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: of course love is queer coded and journey is queer coded.

743
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: But love your journey.

744
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 5: It's very straight to me. Yes, straight man, hey, hey.

745
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's straight man journey.

746
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 2: It's straight man an even straight woman even like Oprah. Yeah,

747
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: but you're like Oprah would say.

748
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: To me, and maybe it's just my I can't not

749
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: hear in a gay guy's voice and sort of being

750
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: like love your journey, Like, oh my, I see your

751
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: journey and I love your journey. But I guess he's

752
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 3: saying you know the journey like you. He's not saying

753
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: I love your journey. He's saying you need to love

754
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 3: your journey.

755
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: Love your journey is also very much like a Kamala

756
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: campaign slogan.

757
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: It's also like a fucking superu ad or something.

758
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 5: It's a tattoo on your lower back or your wrist.

759
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: I think wrist and even rib.

760
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: Whoa I find Okay, we need to talk about this

761
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: type of inspirational content in general. It's so empty, like

762
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: the fact that it's a watch, that he's just giving

763
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: you a watch. You didn't do anything, You just like

764
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: were unemployed that day and so you could leave the

765
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: house and go find him, and so it was like

766
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 3: there's something where it's like with this this, we've lost

767
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: what inspirational content is even supposed to be. Like it's

768
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: supposed to be like a kid hearing again for the

769
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: first time, or like.

770
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: Yes, two animals that are different.

771
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: Yes, a dog seeing his owner come back from war,

772
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: for example.

773
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 4: A kid seeing another kid they're friends with, yeah, or

774
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: saying thank you mommy when given something.

775
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: And we've like really lost the thread and now it

776
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: is just like you did this, you found me and

777
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: got a watch, and it's like, yeah, but that's not

778
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: an accomplishment inherently.

779
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 5: No, finding God is an accomplishment finding like fulfillment is

780
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 5: an accomplish. You just found just found.

781
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 2: Too, And I guess is the accomplishment that he doesn't

782
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: actually give you information about where he is and you

783
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 2: have to like take in his surroundings.

784
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and figure it out, GEO. The guys and gals

785
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 4: who are searching on the internet based on clues.

786
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 5: Sure, No, here's the thing. Or you just walk by him, right,

787
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 5: you walk by.

788
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: Him and you recognize him because he's so famous.

789
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 2: I mean, I do think there is I think that's

790
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: a slight accomplishment. Is it enough to.

791
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: Love your journey?

792
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: Maybe not, but like I would feel very accomplished if

793
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: I saw him live and I recognized the block he

794
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: was on and then I knew to walk there.

795
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: Do you remember when, like I feel like this was

796
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: around two thousand and nine, maybe twenty ten, Like Twitter

797
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: was around, but it was like new, and it would

798
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: be a thing where like Ellen would be in Chicago

799
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 3: and she'd post like I'm at the Bean and everyone

800
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: would go to the bean. Ah, this was happening left

801
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: and right. It used to mean something because it was

802
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: like a celeb and it would be like first five

803
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: people to find me, you get tickets. It's a nice show.

804
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: That doesn't happen anymore. Now you're just finding a guy

805
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: who's not famous who's giving you a watch.

806
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: Totally, and I actually think it also harkens back to

807
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: a time of like optimism about technology and the internet. Totally,

808
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: like total idea that Ellen would invite people to locate.

809
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: Her is so.

810
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: Completely insane these days, Like there are so many stories

811
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: of like celebrities being stalked, people committing terrorist attacks. You

812
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: would not as Ellen or as any celebrity make it

813
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: a challenge for someone to find you at the bean.

814
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 4: It's sort of brave or yeah, it's terrifying that he

815
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: would tell you where he is. He's assuming people are good.

816
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: And I actually think so much of this kind of

817
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: video content because this also reminds me of.

818
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: The return of Man on the Street stuff.

819
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: It's almost like wanting to have that old optimism about

820
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: people despite all evidence pointing to the opposite. Like we've

821
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: already learned that these things do not end well, and

822
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: yet you're trying to do Man on the Street interviews.

823
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 5: Why right, why hasn't Tim been found in murdered.

824
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, okay, so, yeah, you.

825
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 4: Were describing how accomplished you would feel if you saw

826
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 4: him online and found him. I will admit I was

827
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 4: aware of this man through my algorithm, potentially through my bisexuality.

828
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: When I learned he was in New York this month,

829
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 4: I did follow, I did see he go went live.

830
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 4: I did recognize the store he was in front of,

831
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 4: and that I was eight minutes away from it.

832
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: And where was it. I'm curious.

833
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 4: He's on Fifth Avenue in front of like an Italian

834
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 4: deli with sort of a very specific design, and I

835
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 4: clocked that avenue in Brooklyn, in Brooklyn, and I sprinted.

836
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: I think I had a chance, and I sprinted to

837
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: this man. I screamed, love your Journey. He said, I'm

838
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 4: not doing a challenge right now, and he gave me

839
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 4: this key chain.

840
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: No, my god, that's okay.

841
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: I found him. It was the most mortified I've ever been.

842
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: I thought I was getting like a two thousand dollars

843
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 4: watch for this sprint. I sprinted for a keychain, and

844
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: then I look up. The watches are two hundred bucks.

845
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 4: They're not even like luxury watches.

846
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: Well, of course, or two hundred bucks. He's making an

847
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 3: damn kitchen.

848
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Just in case, in case anyone isn't watching.

849
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: What Zach just showed us is a key chain that

850
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 2: has a single circular white plastic object that says hashtag

851
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: love your Journey.

852
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 5: And that makes it straight, really and it makes it

853
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 5: a font in a font that I would.

854
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: Say combines outdoorsy with pinterest.

855
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: I'd say, you know, I've clearly Tim bought two thousand

856
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: of these for ten dollars, and it's so upsetting that

857
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: that's what he gave you. I'm sorry that happened to you.

858
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 3: Did it?

859
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: It was so I didn't feel robbed.

860
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: I think so that I felt like, oh I just

861
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 4: I'm sweating now on one hundred degree day in park slow.

862
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: Well clearly depends my but don't you feel more? Don't

863
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: you feel more robbed?

864
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if you were to not get anything, at

865
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: least you could be like, well, okay, so I didn't

866
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: make it this time. Next time I'll be were motivated

867
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: and get there earlier. But to have this be part

868
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: of the design, oh, interesting. Some people get key chains.

869
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 4: That is false advertising, right, I'm like, oh, I didn't

870
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: almost win. I got the consolation prize and their ten

871
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: thousand consolation prizes exactly.

872
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: I find that it's interesting that you were ready to

873
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: light up a Shakeshack employee over some false advertising, but

874
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 3: you let this man get away without, you know, fighting

875
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: him to be.

876
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 5: Honest in his defense. Which why am I jumping to that?

877
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 4: Usually he has his an iPad up that's counting down

878
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 4: the seconds of a challenge, and so I'm kind of

879
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 4: a fair weather fan just followed the account was making

880
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 4: big assumptions that I was entitled.

881
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 5: To a watch.

882
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: I think I could have put on a little bit

883
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 4: of a show, but he was live streaming at the time,

884
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 4: and I didn't want to be like, well, I deserve

885
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 4: a watch man. Maybe I fell victim to something because

886
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 4: he's not a corporation's not shake shocked.

887
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: Please don't blame yourself.

888
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 3: I think you should blame yourself a little.

889
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 4: I'm trying to. I'm really trying to hashtag blame yourself

890
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: a little. That's Sam ski chains that he's giving out.

891
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: I just am sort of shocked.

892
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: I'm shocked at the density of straight elements to this.

893
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry to start listing because I realized it's

894
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: the lowest form of cultural production.

895
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: Is making lists.

896
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: But I just want to list like this is watches

897
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: one of the straightest jewelry.

898
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: Okay, watch first of all, watches, second of all. Startup mythology.

899
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 2: The idea of someone starting a business in their kitchen,

900
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 2: starting a business in their basement. That's very Mark Zuckerberg, Coda.

901
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: That's very Silicon Valley. So so okay.

902
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 5: We have.

903
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 2: Watches, startup mythology. Viral marketing campaigns. You know, it's very

904
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: like flash mob sort of aesthetics.

905
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: And specifically dated viral marketing campaigns.

906
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: Dated viral marketing campaigns.

907
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: Man named Tim Geo tagging slash mass surveillance.

908
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: Kind of a mister Beast level.

909
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: He's my favor Classy mister Beast.

910
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: Classy mister Beast false promises because this I the idea

911
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: is that the watch is a luxury product, but in fact,

912
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 2: I just want to say, two hundred dollars is the

913
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: worst possible price for a watch, because either you want

914
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: like a fun Cassio watch that's like thirty dollars, or

915
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: you want like an actually expensive one that's like two

916
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: thousand dollars more. But two hundred you are guaranteeing that

917
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: this is a bad product.

918
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 5: Did I bring the straightest thing?

919
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 3: I honestly think you might have. Yeah.

920
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: No, I'm like shocked.

921
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 5: I'm really oddly proud.

922
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I think this. By the way, this

923
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: makes up for your five hundred score. I mean we

924
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: are talking extra credit up at the wazoo.

925
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's something but in this that is

926
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: like five hundred deads.

927
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 5: This this the first time they've.

928
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: Been oh yeah, yeah, and you can.

929
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: And by the way, you when you went to pick

930
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: them up, it turns out you're only getting a key chain.

931
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 5: I'm just like, did my magicians joke make it in?

932
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: Do we think we're gonna hope, We're gonna let's hope.

933
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: So let's hope.

934
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, listeners, I made an amazing joke. Might not

935
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 4: make the edit due to my Internet.

936
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 3: I think the fact. Okay, there's something that I can't

937
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 3: tell if it's like short sighted or really far sighted

938
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 3: about creating a watch company for the sole purpose of

939
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 3: using it to create a viral challenge. Like they I

940
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: can't tell, like if that's the smartest thing I've ever

941
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: heard or the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

942
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: No, I'm serious saying. And also I can't tell if

943
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,959
Speaker 2: it's straight or gay, because you know, what it sort

944
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 2: of gives is like a drag queen starting a line

945
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: of socks, like it is. There's there's a sort of

946
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 2: there's a kind of charming desperate but even the like.

947
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 3: I like the charming aspiration, there's a way that they're like,

948
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: he's sort of doing inception on people to be like

949
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: he's making the watches, then he makes the viral challenges.

950
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 3: Then he's like, oh, these are the watches from the

951
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: viral challenges, and the people I guess I want the

952
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 3: watch from the viral challenge. But he made the watch

953
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: and the viral challenge, so none of it is authentic.

954
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 5: And he's and he symbolizes something like you see him.

955
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 5: I saw Tim. I found Tim like he's more than

956
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 5: the watches a little bit.

957
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: Another short thing about this is like he the sort

958
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 3: of amazing race element where it's like travel where he

959
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: can be anywhere at any time and you never know

960
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 3: where he is.

961
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 4: I do want to say, what what drew me to

962
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: this is. It felt like a drag queen meet and greet.

963
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 4: It felt like a similar enthusiasm, like oh my god,

964
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: I want to see my favorite and not everyone knowing

965
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 4: who he is as part of the allure to I

966
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 4: don't know if that's straight or gay, But like I

967
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 4: found Tim. When I posted that I found Tim, no

968
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 4: one knew who he was, but the two people who did.

969
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: I was like, now, I like, welst need you to

970
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: name the two people who did, because.

971
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 5: Tim Cook and Mark Zuckerberg.

972
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: Because wow, I say, this is like such a weird

973
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 3: twist for your like I'm getting that you love free stuff.

974
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: This is something I've learned about you over the last hour.

975
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 4: But I told you there are two things you need

976
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 4: to know. But like my burgeoning bisexuality, love free stuff,

977
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 4: and I love free things.

978
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 3: But to go to this man and like be like

979
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: to say his catchphrase at him, I'm really blown away.

980
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: No, but I was.

981
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 5: It was cumiliating.

982
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: In hindsight, I can relate to this, Zach because it's like,

983
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: you know what it is, Okay. One time The Gap

984
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: does these vintage drops where they sell vintage products from

985
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: like eighties and nineties Gap. Okay, it's an advance.

986
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 5: For being vulnerable.

987
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 4: I can feel this is going to be embarrassing at

988
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 4: your expense, and I'm grateful for it.

989
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: So I and I think there's such fun stuff that

990
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: you can find that's like nineties Gap, like an old

991
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: polo that's a little you know, frayed, or like a

992
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: fun denim short whatever. And you know, if you happen

993
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 2: to be by your email when you get the thing,

994
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: then you go and you and you know, you have

995
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: like thirty seconds to see if there's anything you want.

996
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: One time I got one of these emails. It said

997
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: vintage Gap drop. I go and there's only one thing left,

998
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: and it was this like acid washed denim, these acid

999
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: washed knee length denim shorts that were like very youthful,

1000
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: like very gen z not something I would wear, but

1001
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: I really I was like, I have to make a

1002
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: game time decision. I convinced myself in the moment that

1003
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 2: this was a smart purchase and they and I paid

1004
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: seventy five dollars for them.

1005
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 3: Wow.

1006
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: And when I tell you, it's a year later and

1007
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: I have them tag on in my closet.

1008
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 5: But it was never about wearing them exactly.

1009
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: It was about it was about the scare.

1010
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: City is about the scarcity of the product and the

1011
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: fact that I accomplish something by actually like being there

1012
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 2: on time.

1013
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 4: It's sort of you feel like, Wow, I'm in the

1014
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 4: right place at the right time for history. I mean,

1015
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 4: history is happening, the Revolutionist here, whatever, everything is history.

1016
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 4: This is like a nice It's like getting a Britney

1017
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 4: Spears ticket or I don't know, or Beyonce ticket being

1018
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 4: in line at Ticketmaster.

1019
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: It's like getting a rainbow bagel or something, even though

1020
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: you know that it's not going to be good, it's

1021
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: not going to be as good as just like a

1022
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 2: normal bagel.

1023
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 4: I do have to share that the diner by my

1024
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 4: house is taking rainbow bagels and making turkey clubs with them,

1025
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 4: and the product is called the Pride Turkey Club, which

1026
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 4: scans perfectly to Pink Pony Club Song of the Summer

1027
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 4: Song of the Summer Pride Turkey Club.

1028
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of fun.

1029
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 2: Now if someone if someone was giving out a Pride

1030
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: Turkey Club on the on Fifth Avenue and I was running,

1031
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: and it's a way I'm running.

1032
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 5: Sam, do you run to anything free or you want

1033
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 5: to play?

1034
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 3: So something I feel like when I was in my twenties,

1035
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: I likes early twenties, I was obsessed with free and

1036
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 3: I would like do anything for free, and I would

1037
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: like go to those websites where they'd be like, here's

1038
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: all the free things you can do, here's everything, Like

1039
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: I was. I was all I was like. I was

1040
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 3: like imagining, like oh, I'm going to write a book

1041
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: about like how to never spend a dollar and like

1042
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: still have the best life or whatever. And then something

1043
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: shifted and I it wasn't having more money. It was

1044
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 3: like the free thing started to piss me off, where

1045
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: I was like, I actually don't like this, Like I'd

1046
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: actually rather do nothing and stay at home than do this.

1047
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: I'd rather read a fucking book or watch a TV

1048
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 3: show than I then run to this thing and go

1049
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: to this show or whatever. And I think New York

1050
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 3: kind of shook it out of me, to be honest,

1051
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: I think Chicago had a lot of really good free

1052
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: programming and I was like always doing free stuff that

1053
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: was fun, and then I went to New York and

1054
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: anything that was free was a fucking nightmare. And I

1055
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: said enough, it's time to respect myself and stop going

1056
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 3: for free. And now I'm almost someone that like resents

1057
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: a deal like I like, I'm almost. I don't know

1058
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 3: what has happened, but I'm like, I don't need to. Like,

1059
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: if I want the thing, I want the thing. If

1060
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: I don't want the thing, I don't want the thing.

1061
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if if it happens to be on

1062
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 3: sale and I want it, good. If it's not on

1063
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: sale and I want it, I'm getting it. Like I

1064
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 3: resent that being something that influences me and so I

1065
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 3: try to ignore it.

1066
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 5: That's interesting.

1067
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 4: How does this intersect with the list being on the

1068
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 4: list getting into the event for free being sent, the

1069
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 4: being sent the apple is the new TV show box,

1070
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 4: is that freed.

1071
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: And as welcome being invited with Special.

1072
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 5: Screening RSVP limited show up early.

1073
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a reception afterwards, maybe I'll go.

1074
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 5: If Getty's there, Sam's going there, I'm going.

1075
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: If it's just if it's just, if it's just seeing

1076
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 3: the thing, I'm like, no, no, thank you. I'll see

1077
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: it when it's my time to see it.

1078
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 2: I know there's something interesting. It's like, so, okay, there's

1079
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: being a civilian. There's being on the list, and there's

1080
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: being a guest of honor, and and I.

1081
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: Think the thing, and then there's being the tim.

1082
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: Yes, and there's something about like the way when you're

1083
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: a civilian, your dream is to get on the list.

1084
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: When you're on the list, you resent the fact that

1085
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 2: you are the least prestigious person there, Like it's actually

1086
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: better to just not be there at the beginnet totally.

1087
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 5: If you're what's the next.

1088
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 4: If you're honor, you're resenting not being or is guest

1089
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: of honor being the thing?

1090
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: Well, this is okay.

1091
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 2: So let's say the product is the big new energy drink.

1092
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 1: So the thing it's let's call it George George.

1093
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 5: Everybody's drinking George George hydration.

1094
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: The thing itself, I guess is like the CEO of

1095
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: the company, the guest of honor. I guess is like,

1096
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: you know what it is.

1097
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: It's like the people that are in the comm's team

1098
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: and the marketing team, and it's like it's their event.

1099
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: They are moderately proud of themselves, but they also know

1100
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: what their income is and it's not as much as

1101
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: they deserve. Then there's the list and that we're talking

1102
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: just like influencers. We're talking Tim Hayden level influencers.

1103
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 4: The biggest eyes you've ever seen, Yeah, their eyes take

1104
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 4: up half their face, the widest teeth.

1105
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1106
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: And so you're seeing these images on Getty Images as

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00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: a civilian and you're like, wow, I wish I had

1108
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: been invited to that party. But if you're at that party,

1109
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: the conversations you're having are with the most brain dead

1110
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: people imaginable. None of them have any life behind their eyes.

1111
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: They have no dreams or talent other than literally tagging

1112
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 2: themselves in a Getty image. So then you resent yourself

1113
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: for being part.

1114
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 4: Of that MM And then THEE does the CEO want

1115
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 4: to be a civilian? Is there a way to make

1116
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 4: it a circle not a ladder?

1117
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: No, that's an interesting, I guess way. Nice, but I

1118
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: think it's the ladder way.

1119
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: CEO the CEO is then invited to some other event

1120
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: that's like for a real business.

1121
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: It's like he's he goes to.

1122
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 4: Dovos and he's like, I said it first, but said

1123
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 4: it wrong, and.

1124
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 3: We both had that on the brain. Though that's good.

1125
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: And he at Davos, he's he's like a nobody.

1126
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm a fucking loser.

1127
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: He's a fucking loser.

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00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: He's literally like raising his hand to ask Tim Cook

1129
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 2: a question at a Q and a.

1130
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: Oh that hurts.

1131
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: You're activating a memory. I don't know if we have

1132
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 4: time for it.

1133
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 3: Well please, I bet we might please.

1134
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 4: I recently was subject to the Internet made fun of

1135
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 4: an outfit I wore and uh go look, I saw it.

1136
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 4: But I was invited to be on the Drew Barrymore

1137
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 4: Show about it, and I was like, this is hilarious.

1138
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: I'm going to go on and talk about how I

1139
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 4: got rejected from a date because of this bad outfit.

1140
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: As the emails progress, it becomes clear I will be

1141
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 4: in the audience raising my hand and asking a question

1142
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 4: to a dating expert and I can get a photo.

1143
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 5: It drew in the commercial.

1144
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: Break and so ultimately, while it would have been fun,

1145
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 4: I had to respect myself and politely decline the opportunity.

1146
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 4: But raising your question hand to ask a question is

1147
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 4: a particularly subordinate position. Rather than standing next to Tim

1148
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 4: Cook on stage promoting George Hydration.

1149
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 3: Zach, I'm so proud of you for respecting yourself and

1150
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 3: saying no to this.

1151
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of you too.

1152
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 4: I had to call a lot of people. It wasn't easy.

1153
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 4: It was days of wondering what if no?

1154
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 3: You respecting yourself? I almost never regret when I say,

1155
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm good, I'm like, usually it's a

1156
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: good sign.

1157
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 4: I felt I was gonna say no to being on

1158
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 4: Stradio Lab, but the base myself and went into the

1159
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 4: went into the sludge, and I'm grateful for it.

1160
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 3: Oh honey. No one makes out of your own scathed.

1161
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one. No one is.

1162
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: If you think you're going to get to the George

1163
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: Hydration Party for being a STRADIOLB guest.

1164
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: George hid Party and we're George.

1165
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: Okay.

1166
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, do we wanna bring it back

1167
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: to Tim Hayden.

1168
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 5: Does he have more to offer us?

1169
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, I mean, I think we've said, We've said

1170
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: a lot and I'm this, you know.

1171
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: It's like you've introduced something into my life that is

1172
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: now going to be part of it forever.

1173
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 5: I think you should and I follow him and it

1174
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 5: might bring you a little joy.

1175
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: I see myself following him. Now here's a question. And

1176
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: I'm looking at photos of him. That's why you're seeing

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00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: my screen reflected on me.

1178
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 5: It's not that he is forty seven and looks sixty five,

1179
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 5: not to So.

1180
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

1181
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: It's very confusing because he actually is He both is

1182
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: hot and isn't hot in a very confusing Yeah.

1183
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 3: It depends on the angle and the picture. It's strange

1184
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 3: because like, wait, his watches. Oh no, that's what people

1185
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 3: are running towards.

1186
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: Wait, can I actually say one more thing?

1187
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: So I want to say something about love your journey,

1188
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: because there's something very interesting that's happening here, which is

1189
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: the watch itself is a tota. It is a symbol

1190
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: of his journey, of his entrepreneurial journey. The watch exists

1191
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: not to tell time, not to be a piece of jewelry.

1192
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: It exists as proof that you can pursue your dream.

1193
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: It the whether or not, whether or not it is

1194
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: a good watch, a nice watch. Whether it's aesthetically pleasing,

1195
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: whether or not you even wanted is besides the point.

1196
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: Everything is just a temple to the idea of entrepreneurs Well,

1197
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: this is the.

1198
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 3: Whole thing with current entrepreneurship, Internet entrepreneurship. It entrepreneurship is

1199
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 3: in itself a pyramid scheme. It is just a way

1200
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 3: to say, like, I'm an entrepreneur and you can be

1201
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 3: too if you respect and love my journey and like,

1202
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 3: look at how I've done it. Of course I'm I'm

1203
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: heated about this because the guy who shares my name,

1204
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 3: Sam Taggert, is an entrepreneur and he is the He

1205
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 3: goes to conferences to teach entrepreneurship and salesmanship, and his

1206
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: whole thing is an empire of people taking his classes

1207
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 3: and buying his books on entrepreneurship. But that's how he

1208
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 3: has his money is through the classes in the books

1209
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 3: and so like. But what is he selling. He's selling entrepreneurship.

1210
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: It's so this is that's what made.

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00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: As you're saying this, I'm throwing through photos. There is

1212
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: a photo of him launching one of his new watches.

1213
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 2: It says, introducing the entrepreneur. I'm not making this up.

1214
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: One of his watches is called the Entrepreneur he Is.

1215
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: It's he is. It's literally like and it's an ugly.

1216
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: Or I think I want to say rhet or orange

1217
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: is the blurry photo strap it. He is selling the

1218
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: idea of someone being a watch entrepreneur, to whom also like, well, this.

1219
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: Is talk about masculinity is in a crisis. Like men

1220
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 3: straight men are like, how do I have worth? Like

1221
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: and it's like there's a it's like a classic get

1222
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 3: rich quick thing, but there's like but if they're like,

1223
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 3: if I could just start a business or two, I

1224
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: will be an entrepreneur. And then when people ask me

1225
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: what I do, I can tell them I'm an entrepreneur.

1226
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if the business is going well or

1227
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 3: if it's not. But I have a business and that

1228
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: is hard, and that is the whole thing, is like

1229
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 3: branding yourself as an entrepreneur.

1230
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: So along those lines.

1231
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: The idea of entrepreneurship, you have to want to do

1232
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: something quote unquote Bowld like you want to be the

1233
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: next Steve Jobs, the next Mark Zuckerberg, and so you

1234
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: have to have this narrative that you took a huge

1235
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: risk and yet I'm looking.

1236
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: At these watches.

1237
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 2: These watches are just big versions of existing watches.

1238
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 4: He did not innovate, No, he literally did not innovate,

1239
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 4: but by being in the middle, not to be contrarian,

1240
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 4: but by finding a price point no one wants.

1241
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: That's true, You're absolutely right.

1242
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 4: Actually, but he's creating a thing no one wants and

1243
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 4: has found a way to sell it to everyone.

1244
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's sort of like that clothing company Quinn's, which

1245
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: sells like designs that more expensive brands produced but at

1246
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: a lower but they like look a little bit different

1247
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: and they're cheaper.

1248
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 3: I'm telling you what. This guy is making me sick.

1249
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 3: I'm nauseous thinking about this watches. That shit pisses me

1250
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 3: off to no end.

1251
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 5: This is just fresh because I did it last night.

1252
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 4: I bought some Life cereal and I reflected on why

1253
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 4: are they allowed to call it that?

1254
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 5: Because it's not life.

1255
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: I know. It's crazy.

1256
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 4: People have been selling. Brands are always selling. They're not

1257
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 4: selling the products. They're selling ideas. They're selling. Life is

1258
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 4: selling crusty, dried life. See hashtag life.

1259
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 3: Is delicious, hashtag you found me.

1260
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 4: But I think George is right that love your journey

1261
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 4: is actually the product and so the straight culture isn't

1262
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 4: Tim Hayden.

1263
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 5: The episode title is hashtag love your Journey.

1264
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 3: I think I would and I would appreciate that more

1265
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 3: if the journey like just was like somewhere other than entrepreneurship,

1266
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,439
Speaker 3: like if you were almost more vague, and it would

1267
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 3: be like, I love your journey, like life is a journey.

1268
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 3: This is the journey watch. I would be like, Okay,

1269
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 3: now this I love like because it's like it's you know,

1270
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: that's vague, it's about something. But so he's like, this

1271
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 3: is your journey to make one million dollars and it's

1272
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 3: like that no one cares about that.

1273
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 5: And it's he's tracking time, which is I don't own watches. Yeah,

1274
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 5: they're a shackle to time, which I don't really care for.

1275
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 3: Yah.

1276
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: Right, that's it.

1277
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right that It's like there's actually two layers

1278
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: of worthless symbolism. One is the entrepreneurship symbolism and the

1279
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: other one is the watch symbolism. There's something about a watch.

1280
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: It's like it's a serious product.

1281
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: Like he's not selling you know, bandanas.

1282
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 3: You know, it's cheesy branding that I'm actually in comparison

1283
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 3: to this, I'm loving. I'm like, you know who nailed it.

1284
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 3: Life's good. People that wear a Life's Good T shirt.

1285
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what good for you? It's unseerious.

1286
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 3: I just want to chill out. I'm saying thank you.

1287
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: And also, you did sort of innovate. You know, you

1288
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: put a little cartoon stick figure on a shirt.

1289
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 3: You're pretty much Keith Haring.

1290
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, life is Good is actually Keith Harriss for great people.

1291
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: Complimentary of course, I mean, damn, I haven't been so

1292
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 3: he does.

1293
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: Radio Lab have a slogan, Well, we have various phrases.

1294
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 2: So you know, our listeners are called glamour girls. We

1295
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: we have wait, what were the things we just coined?

1296
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: Sam?

1297
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: Recently, there was that one episode we coined a buzzle.

1298
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 3: Well, we thought we have expired quirk, which is when

1299
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 3: a celebrity gets too weird, like they're there you love

1300
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 3: their quirk, and then suddenly people turn on it and

1301
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: speaking of course, look like Jennifer Lawrence.

1302
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: And then you can we have Taking the context pill

1303
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 2: means that if you don't if you lack context for something,

1304
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: you needed to take a context pill.

1305
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 5: That's that's a good declaration, like love your journey, so.

1306
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 2: Yes, are we leaving money on the table by not

1307
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 2: making merch?

1308
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: And then we created, of course Lizzo's Pass, which is

1309
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: one of our most uh widespread ideas, which is yes,

1310
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 3: I mean that's basically Sam's life work. Yeah.

1311
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 5: Is it sort of a get out of cancel jail

1312
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 5: free card.

1313
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: No, it's it's about when an artist who is like

1314
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 3: kind of coming up up and like having a big

1315
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 3: blow up moment and is cool and people love where

1316
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: they they're they're at Lizzo's Pass and they have to

1317
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 3: decide do they want to go towards Pitchfork or do

1318
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 3: they want to go towards Target.

1319
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: And it's so this is named after when Lizzo was

1320
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: first coming up and she was cool, she was like

1321
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,479
Speaker 2: endorsed people, was cool.

1322
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so she chose to target hard.

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01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 5: Gotcha. I thought it was very different.

1324
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 4: I thought it was like Lizzo's allegations, she gets a

1325
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 4: Passo's Pass. It's sort of a that's very mythic. That's yes,

1326
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 4: I'm going to Mordor. I've reached Lizzo's Pass.

1327
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 2: And of course the very treacherous question, it's very treacherous.

1328
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: And you know when we first when it first started

1329
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: gaining traction was when we were debating where Chapel if

1330
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 2: Chapel at Lozzo's pass, would choose, Pitchfork or Target.

1331
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 3: Have we seen anything we think we need the second

1332
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 3: album to come in?

1333
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's what. I think we need the

1334
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: second album to come.

1335
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 3: Well know for sure. But it's a scary time. She's

1336
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 3: the wind is blowing. She's like, I don't know which

1337
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 3: way to go?

1338
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 5: Ah, Who's who's her gandolf?

1339
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: Who are her?

1340
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 5: Who's who's guiding?

1341
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 3: And that Sasha Colby is her gandolf?

1342
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1343
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: No, it Isol, And they're giving her very conflicting advice.

1344
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 4: Let me tell you right, Sasha is pitch for and

1345
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 4: Target Target. I mean someone once told me you have

1346
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 4: to decide as an actor do you want to be

1347
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 4: in movies or do you want to play regional theaters?

1348
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 4: And you have to be honest with yourself because you'll

1349
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 4: be unhappy if you're in the slot or don't want

1350
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 4: to be in. If you want to be in movies,

1351
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 4: go try being movies. If you want to be a

1352
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 4: regional theater actor, go be a regional theater actor. It's

1353
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 4: a good life in both. You have to be honest

1354
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 4: and look within. Now that's interesting, George says, so skeptically,

1355
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 4: I do, may I may I make an observation for

1356
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 4: my life, George, I was in I like going to Paris,

1357
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 4: it's a very pleasant city. But then I went to

1358
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 4: Athens and the people of Greece are so so friendly, yeah,

1359
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 4: so kind. I got bit by a cat. This owner

1360
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 4: gave me like a band aid and a lollipop, and

1361
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 4: all my while there thinking how wonderful the people of

1362
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 4: Greece are.

1363
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 5: I couldn't help but wonder what happened with George severis.

1364
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: No, it's true, and it's because I spent six very

1365
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: formative years in New Jersey and it really.

1366
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: Knocked it out of me.

1367
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: But actually what you're saying is very is very true,

1368
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: and Greek people very farse. Greek people are like some

1369
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: of the only people who actually are pro who live

1370
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 2: in a tourist destination, who are a pro tourist.

1371
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: Like you know how there's all these like.

1372
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 2: Anti tourist demonstrations in like Barcelona or something that would

1373
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 2: never happen in Greece. Like Greek people know that all

1374
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 2: the money in the economy comes from tourism, and they

1375
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 2: are like desperate to drive the boat that takes you

1376
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: from one island to the other.

1377
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:56,919
Speaker 3: Oh.

1378
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 4: No, that makes the niceness I encounter, you know a

1379
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 4: little more.

1380
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 5: Like please spend money.

1381
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 3: I guess what.

1382
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 1: Currently, things are going very well.

1383
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: So it's you know, if you were there in like

1384
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, it would be a different story.

1385
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 4: All of which is say the way you said that's interesting,

1386
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 4: I could smell a sinister turnd Well, you.

1387
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 2: Know you said something that was like doing regional theater

1388
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: or doing movies. Both of them are good, good lives,

1389
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: good lives, And I'm like.

1390
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 3: To be honest, Yes, it depends on what region, honey.

1391
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 1: Depends on what region, and depends what roles you're getting.

1392
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 4: We're talking south, We're talking Kansas City. No, we're where's

1393
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 4: the worst from Kansas City?

1394
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 3: Could be kind of south west. Oh, I just mean

1395
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: like regional theater, the pay of doing regional theater some places,

1396
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 3: I actually live a life in some places you can.

1397
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 3: So I think we should do our final segment. Is

1398
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 3: that crazy?

1399
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 5: You're unhinged?

1400
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 1: This has been a really eye opening episode.

1401
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I have no idea how long

1402
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 3: it is because we had so many typical difficulties. We've

1403
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 3: been recording for about two hours, but how much of

1404
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 3: it will work.

1405
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 4: I'm not sure it's going to be a thirty minute

1406
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,520
Speaker 4: episode or a two year episode.

1407
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: Even if it's just the Tim Hayden portion. I'm like,

1408
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: Tim Hayden is going to be such radio lab lore

1409
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 2: from now on. Like we're talking, when we post this episode,

1410
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: you better believe I'm sending a collab request to the

1411
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: Tim Hayden account.

1412
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 4: If I in a month, you both are going to

1413
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:36,759
Speaker 4: have fourteen entrepreneur watches on your wrists. You're hustling, you're wearing.

1414
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 4: Some of them are called the green Point and the

1415
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 4: park Slope.

1416
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 3: Literally, oh my god, Okay, well now I'm interested.

1417
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 5: Now you're interested.

1418
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 3: Two green points? Please.

1419
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 5: This segment have weird rules.

1420
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 2: This segment actually does not have weird rules. This segment

1421
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: is very straightforward, I believe it or not, No pun intended.

1422
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 2: So zach Our final segment is called shout Outs, and

1423
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: in this segment we pay homage to the great straight

1424
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 2: tradition of the radio shout out. So you're at TRL

1425
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 2: shouting out to your squad back home, you're on Z

1426
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 2: one hundred. You know you're saying I want to shout

1427
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 2: out X and it can be anything to be a person, product, place, thing,

1428
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 2: and we think of them on the spot, which is

1429
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 2: why I'm sort of vamping right now. Sam and I

1430
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: will go first. Sam, do you have one?

1431
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 3: Oh, brother, Now this is interesting. I don't currently have one,

1432
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 3: but let me reflect for one moment.

1433
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: No, we were going to reflect. We're going to reflect, boots.

1434
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 5: Mother is reflecting.

1435
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: Mother is quiet, Mother is reflecting.

1436
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 5: I could be using this time to think of mine,

1437
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 5: but I refuse.

1438
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 3: Oh brother, everything I have is like a complaint in

1439
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 3: some capacity. Okay, let me try.

1440
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 2: Damn, you're catching us truly. Like at the end of

1441
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 2: our I'm like, my brain is empty. I use my

1442
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: last brain stell to think about Tim Hayden.

1443
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 3: My brain's my brain's been fried.

1444
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 5: Have you done a pod since you got married?

1445
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 3: That's just the one right before this, and a Patreon

1446
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 3: before that and Patreon.

1447
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 5: Have you shouted out your new husband?

1448
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: Oh, you should shout out Misha. That might be nice. Yeah,

1449
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: that might be nice, Sam, what's up press and.

1450
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 3: Perverts around the globe. I want to give a shout

1451
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 3: out to my new husband. We have been together for

1452
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 3: eleven years and are now married. For four days. Uh,

1453
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 3: and it's just to die for. I want to give

1454
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,799
Speaker 3: a shout out to everyone who came to the wedding.

1455
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 3: And you know how comedians are not the most obedient crowd.

1456
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 3: They are living out loud and doing their own thing.

1457
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 3: And everyone was so respectful of both being assigned seats,

1458
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: which is pretty rare. I was surprised everyone sat where

1459
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 3: they were intended to sit and they were. You'd say, okay, sit,

1460
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 3: we're gonna start out, and everyone did, and I said, Wow,

1461
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 3: everyone's really coming together for a special moment. I want

1462
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 3: to give a shout out to Macy Rodman for djaying

1463
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 3: and making the party so electric and fun in a

1464
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 3: way that I could have never ever expected. And I

1465
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 3: want to give a shout out to a Bernese, my

1466
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: favorite restaurant, who did such a verat job hosting, and

1467
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 3: Metropolitan for being a wedding venue which no one ever

1468
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 3: thought possible and yet there it was. And shout out

1469
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 3: to at jokes On, Sam, the wedding photographer, who was

1470
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 3: to die for, and that's everyone so like, so Sam.

1471
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: What's up? Freaks some losers.

1472
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: I want to give a shout out to Mary Don

1473
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 2: Taggart Sam's mom for absolutely slaying her toast boots down.

1474
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: She got up. I said, there wasn't even a warm

1475
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: up period.

1476
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 2: We're talking punchlines from sentence one, clause one of sentence one.

1477
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: First syllable. I'm laughing.

1478
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 2: This is a you know, I would say, uh, I'm

1479
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 2: trying to even find the right reference for which comedian.

1480
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: She reminded me of. And I can only think of comedians.

1481
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 2: Who have flaws where a is Sam's mom actually was

1482
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 2: flawed less. And so I think she is in a

1483
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 2: league of her own. I think she is ready to

1484
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,879
Speaker 2: hit the open mic scene in New York, LA, Chicago,

1485
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: wherever she thinks her sensibility fits in best. I do

1486
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: think she is kind of like her own voice, and

1487
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: I think she can fit in anywhere while also remaining

1488
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 2: unique and retaining her unique sensibility. And I want to

1489
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: give a special shout out to her iconic pink dress,

1490
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: which was so absolutely she it was completely timeless. There

1491
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: were you know, there was a sort of feather moment

1492
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: that felt very kind of like celebratory. In summary, it

1493
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 2: was a perfect bright pink color that actually like transcended barbikore,

1494
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 2: you know, on a lesser wearer of it, it would

1495
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: have referenced Barbikore, but it was almost like she was saying,

1496
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 2: you think I'm going to reference Barbikore?

1497
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: Who got another thing coming? And so I just want

1498
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: to say, you know, it was so lovely to see her.

1499
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 1: I had such a lovely.

1500
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: Time catching up with her, one of the best hosts

1501
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: I've ever had when I stayed at Sam's house.

1502
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:09,959
Speaker 1: And I just hope.

1503
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 2: She's doing really well and I can't wait to see

1504
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: her next time.

1505
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 5: Who what's up, faggots?

1506
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 4: I want to shout out Andrew Cuomo, thank you King

1507
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 4: for wasting all of door Dash's money and Michael Bloomberg's money,

1508
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 4: but seriously shouting out Zopron Mount Donnie went in the primary,

1509
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 4: come on King, Democrat socialists remains. I can't wait to

1510
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 4: see some transformation in the city. And you're a cutie pie,

1511
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 4: although I do on a hold space for people that

1512
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 4: are now older than the soon to be mayor of

1513
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 4: New York, which is a very humbling experience. Pivoting to

1514
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 4: shout out to some media, I'm consuming rewatch of breaking Bad,

1515
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 4: having a lot of fun there, having the urge to

1516
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 4: try meth and or make it went to CBS, couldn't

1517
01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 4: buy sudafed and murma use next shouting out, David protein bars,

1518
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 4: their macros are great and they're tasty, shouting out, I'm

1519
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 4: taking across country Amtrak rides to avoid all prides and

1520
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 4: so shouting out Amtrak for that.

1521
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, vibes are.

1522
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 4: Good, feeling fresh xx x x x oh ten thousand

1523
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 4: dead doves?

1524
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 3: Who zach.

1525
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 5: Early XXXXO.

1526
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: Well, I can't even get into my thoughts on David bars,

1527
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 2: but I will let you have that one.

1528
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 4: They're bad, I imagine, but they are so bad for

1529
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 4: me or the No, I don't care how bad they

1530
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 4: are for me.

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Speaker 1: I find them so disgusting. Do you not?

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01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 5: All protein bars are disgusting.

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01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 4: You have to develop It's an acquired taste, like beer

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01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 4: and wine.

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01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: And what about bear bells?

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01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:53,959
Speaker 5: What are bear bells?

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01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: So you gotta go buy beare belts?

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01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 5: Are they good?

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01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really good.

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01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 2: They taste No, none of them are good for you,

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01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 2: but they are, you know, twenty trainy grams of protein

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01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 2: and they really taste like a Snicker's bar.

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01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: They're delicious.

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01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,440
Speaker 5: Wait, twenty grams of fruits? How many calories?

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01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,839
Speaker 1: I don't know? Girls, girls, girls.

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01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 5: Enough, we're fighting, Okay.

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01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: Our producer is saying they're two hundred and forty calories.

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01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: Is that a lot of a little?

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01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 4: She said, two hundred and forty. Is that two hundred

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01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 4: forty calories or the number of minutes we've got?

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01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: Who damn gott us? Well, Zach, I would like to

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01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 1: give you.

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01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 2: I would personally like to give you an opportunity to

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01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 2: promote your work, Oh my god, and tell people where

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01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: they can find you go.

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01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 4: Part of the rush is you have to work to

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01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 4: find me, and when you do, I will give you

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01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 4: a free watch so you guys can search online.

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01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 5: You know, you know where to go.

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01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 4: It takes a little effort, but it's worth the effort

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01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 4: because you are loving your journey. And I did put

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01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 4: a special out on YouTube if you want to have

1563
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,759
Speaker 4: an hour of laughs and two minutes of ads.

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01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: And what is that special called.

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01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 4: It's called surprise me. Type in Zack Zimmerman, surprise me

1566
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 4: on YouTube. It's about my search for love and a

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01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 4: broken world with conservative family members, evil gay men, and

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01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 4: self love.

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01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 3: Well there you go.

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01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 5: Wow and just like that heard of her and just like.

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01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 3: That, Well, thanks for doing the pod.

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01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 2: It has been an honor. Thank you for speaking out.

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01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 2: We have to thank you for introducing us to Tim Hayden.

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01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm sorry and you love your journey.

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01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: Love your journey, Zach, Please love your journey. Do not

1576
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 2: forget Okay, all right?

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01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:50,920
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01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,360
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01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,919
Speaker 2: Created and hosted by George Severs and Sam Taggart.

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01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,960
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01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,800
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01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,080
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01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,559
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