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Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: it is the post apocalyptic Monday here. Yeah, the twenty

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Speaker 3: tweason is in the book. Worst season is finally in

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Speaker 3: the books. The Philadelphia Eagles really just manhandling the Kansas

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Speaker 3: City Chiefs in the Super Bowl wasn't even remote It

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Speaker 3: wasn't remotely a game.

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Speaker 2: No. I really blown away by that. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: give the Eagles all the credit in the world, but boy,

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Speaker 2: I did not see that coming. And I've talked to

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Speaker 2: it's like if they played that game ten times with

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs win any of them. I mean, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: like that bounce went the wrong way or I mean,

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Speaker 2: there was nothing other than stopping Saquon that they did. Well, yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: it was. It was ugly. The whole way was.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like you almost wanted to just turn the

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Speaker 3: game off. At halftimes twenty four to nothing, it was over.

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Speaker 3: It's over it's done.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of that, I mean, the Chiefs get the

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Speaker 2: ow Brady did it to get to the Falcons. Maybe

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Speaker 2: there's some kind of crazy Mahomes comeback. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: play anything across this guy. They get the ball, sack, sack, punt,

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Speaker 2: I mean like two sacks on the first three plays

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Speaker 2: and coming out of the half like this doesn't look

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Speaker 2: any different at all. And no, I mean they didn't

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Speaker 2: make any adjustments. I'm not real big on flat or

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Speaker 2: better prepared or blah blah blah, but one team was

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Speaker 2: playing at a different speed than the other. The Chiefs

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Speaker 2: just kept doing the same things over and over. Like

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Speaker 2: the stuff I can't get at my head my head

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Speaker 2: around is the Eagles blitzer zero times zero and I

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Speaker 2: don't think they even blitch get the Steelers. They're not

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Speaker 2: a blitz, you know, They're a bring four, drop seven,

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Speaker 2: a lot of zone cover four. But Andy Reid, who

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Speaker 2: I think is a phenomenal head coach and a wonderful

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Speaker 2: mastermind of offense, he sent five eligibles out in a route.

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Speaker 2: That's what they do on eighty one percent of the

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Speaker 2: dropback it's just what they do. Yeah, I mean, like

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Speaker 2: and then one of them, I remember Kelsey's they kept

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Speaker 2: Good luck with that. He just ran right through him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, keep p Ryan in ever, you know, or

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Speaker 3: When everybody's being beaten, everyone's being beaten, right, it didn't

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Speaker 2: It really didn't. And the other thing that no one

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Speaker 2: seems to be talking about is, yes, the old line

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Speaker 2: got destroyed, but no receivers got open either. Yeah. I

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Speaker 2: mean I thought they would take the strategy that they did,

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Speaker 2: which was much of what the case did against the

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Speaker 2: Steelers two point one, get it out two point two.

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Speaker 2: We know we can't protect. I thought that's exactly what

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mahomes is uh oh uh sack and his

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Speaker 2: you know, So like Racie Rice would have been helpful. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, Jerry Rice would have been really we're real helpful,

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Speaker 2: both of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So to me, you know, looking at this and

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Speaker 2: I don't think they are. I don't either. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they're one Saquon Barkley signing away for me in

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl change. I'm saying that at all, But I

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Speaker 2: think that it's not a coincidence that Andy white Ole

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Speaker 2: comes from the Philadelphia Eagles and has been part of

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Speaker 2: two off seasons and they've invested in lineman and I

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Speaker 2: bet they continue to. And this is even a Steeler point.

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Speaker 2: I was just on Mark Madden's show and said it

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Speaker 2: and I think the Eagles showed it to us. Run

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Speaker 2: these are things that are attainable for the Steelers. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 2: but start building the trenches. They already have be great

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Speaker 2: it's not as far away as you think. It's the

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at the defense, just start

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Speaker 3: with the offensively they've drafted. And I tweeted out yesterday

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Speaker 3: right around halftime, tell me again that the Steelers don't

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Speaker 3: need to draft defensive linemen, right right, And about half

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Speaker 3: of the responses were, yeah, but the offense they need

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Speaker 2: They did. They got to fix that.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, they've drafted five offensive linemen in the last

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, three in the first two rounds.

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Speaker 3: In the first two rounds. How about we let those

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Speaker 3: guys grow in you know, these are puppies. Let them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see who you hit, who you missed. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the intentions are strong, strong in that direction. And that's

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Speaker 2: something I was just saying on Mark Shows, Like they've

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Speaker 2: Three of them are O lineman, one of them is

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Speaker 2: corner looks like Quinya Mitchell, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like that, that's what they're doing. And one more year

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Speaker 2: are going to say, you're blowing smoke, Matt, You're crazy.

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Speaker 2: Didn't you watch the last month of the season? Steelers

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Speaker 2: front is as good as the Eagles? Yeah, I mean TJ.

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Speaker 3: And again, I think if you get that other corner

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Speaker 3: to match up with Joey Porter Jr. Which you can get, yeah,

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Speaker 3: free agency, So you stagger that a little bit more, right, right, Right,

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Speaker 3: You're spending an age and all that kind of stuff, right,

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Speaker 3: And you also the problem that you have with taking

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Speaker 3: They get picked on, and you don't know that the

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Speaker 3: scheme is going. I mean, you've talked about it in

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get up in your face and play man defense.

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Speaker 3: Not right, No, so you're projecting a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: One thing I've kind of changed my tune on a

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Speaker 2: is need to find another corner that can play man

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Speaker 2: the Homes. I just don't know that has to be

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Speaker 2: man though. I mean, like Fangio lives in Cover four.

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Speaker 2: Just be good, Yeah, I mean, just be good, Just

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Speaker 2: be good. I mean you could be a great zone

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Speaker 2: another really really good corner that that Mahomes when he

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Speaker 2: it's into a much more crowded situation because I know

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Speaker 2: Recavoc with the pass rush. Yeah, and I think to

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Speaker 2: your point, when you compare the Steelers and Eagles one,

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Speaker 2: it's the Super Bowl champ. We know that. I mean

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Speaker 2: they're ahead of the Steelers, of course, but the defense

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Speaker 2: I could get the Steelers defense to that level talent wise.

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Speaker 2: It's not even a stretch to do it. No, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean they'll be the best defense in the league

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Speaker 2: or execute as well, but you could have a comparable

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you if you look at it, the

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Speaker 3: Steelers are better than the Eagles at safety. I know,

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Speaker 3: nobody's gonna want to hear that. Well, makeup, he's terrible, No,

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Speaker 3: he's not. No, No, the Steelers are better there. They're

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Speaker 3: comparable at inside linebacker and I know that. You know,

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Speaker 2: Was fine, but then you got hurt. You know, you're

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Speaker 2: Cam and Carter or wash They just have a lot

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Speaker 2: Steeler philosophy. Did they have to d draft five O

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Speaker 2: but they're gonna be the extra one.

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Speaker 3: And Cam's also thirty five years old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you know.

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Speaker 3: This time last year, the question was, Okay, did you

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Speaker 3: sign Cam do an extension? He's he he might be done. No,

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Speaker 3: he's not done, but he's a lot closer to being done. Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: than you'd like it. You better replace.

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Speaker 2: Him, of course, of course.

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Speaker 2: I think I would be shocked if that isn't the

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Speaker 2: Steelers organizational philosophy, and they've shown it to us over

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Speaker 2: the last two years. But I think it'll continue. We

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Speaker 2: do it in mocks a lot. They might draft too,

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Speaker 2: you know I would. Yeah, Yeah, a great Dtackle draft. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if I'm a receiver short this year, we'll see, you know,

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Speaker 3: See about that. Because there's as we get through this

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Speaker 3: whole thing. I mean, now Deebo Samuel's is available, I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's going to be guys available there at the wide

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Speaker 2: Yep. I mean the Eagles weren't built in a day.

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Speaker 2: I mean they goes back to Kelsey and Lane Johnson

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Speaker 2: and you know, Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham. But they

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Speaker 2: started just throwing insane amount of resources, mostly draft picks

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Speaker 2: allows you to put the cherry on top. By okay,

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Speaker 2: and this is the year we can send a first

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Speaker 2: round pick for aj Brown, This is the year we

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Speaker 2: can sign Saquon you know, like those pieces fall into place,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, if you can build the lines,

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Speaker 2: the other stuff's a lot easier to find. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just kind of everything else kind of falls together.

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Speaker 2: But I want to throw something at you that Mark

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Speaker 2: Creates opportunities for other guys. Sweat's a really good player.

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Speaker 2: But right right path, wrong hour or whatever for the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: But you can do things like that, you know, and

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Speaker 2: Here or there. It's so unchiefs like. And the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: And we are back on Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the drive

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network, and Matt, apparently we can't

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Speaker 3: under Over the weekend, well Sunday, actually, Adam Schefter came

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Speaker 2: And say everything you read is one way direction or

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Speaker 3: Here's what's going on, and I'll explain it. So you

431
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Speaker 3: get a month before the starter free agency. A month

432
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Speaker 3: from today will be the illegal tampering period open.

433
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Speaker 2: Oh is it?

434
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 3: Actually it's a month from to day. So as of

435
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 3: right now, because they don't have one under contract. The

436
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: Steelers don't know who their quarterback is going to be

437
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 3: for twenty twenties five. That is not unusual because as

438
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Speaker 3: I mentioned, they don't have one under contract.

439
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 2: Right, they're allowed to negotiate a contract with their guys.

440
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 3: Sure, right right, Yeah, you could talk about that stuff.

441
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 3: But there are variables that have to take place here,

442
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 3: Like you could they could prefer justin fields, justin fields,

443
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 3: who's going to be a free agent, could prefer to

444
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 3: test the market, right right, right right, it's a it

445
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 3: works both ways. Yes, yes, they could also prefer Russell Wilson.

446
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 3: He has the same right, he has the same rights

447
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: he can he can say, you know what, I want

448
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 3: to see what else is out there? And so you have, yes,

449
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 3: you keep the door open for both guys. Because Art

450
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 3: Rooney the second has gone on record saying he would

451
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 3: prefer their quarterback to be one of those two guys.

452
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Speaker 3: That has not changed. That was just two weeks ago

453
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Speaker 3: from today.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I don't think anything's changed on their desires

455
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: as an organization.

456
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Speaker 3: No, you know, right, And they'll look at the quarterback

457
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 3: market in the draft, they'll look at free agency.

458
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 2: Put all that they they've got it be one of

459
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Speaker 2: those two guys.

460
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Speaker 3: But they're not going to paint themselves into a corner

461
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 3: and say, what's gonna be this guy and nobody else,

462
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: and we're gonna we don't want to talk to that

463
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: guy anymore.

464
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 2: And would you say schefters report were that they've had contract've.

465
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Speaker 3: Had They've had talks with Russell Wilson. They will at

466
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Speaker 3: some point have talks with Justin Fields. Okay, Okay, I again,

467
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to have talk. You've got a month

468
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: before any of this stuff has to happen.

469
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Speaker 2: Fields might think he's a twenty million dollar year player.

470
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Speaker 2: They might think he's a ten million dollar year player.

471
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Speaker 2: I mean, and he says, well, I think three teams

472
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Speaker 2: will sign. It will be will compete and get me

473
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Speaker 2: to twenty million and then I will go be a

474
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: Giant or a Jet or something. Okay, well you're allowed

475
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: to do that, yeah, yeah, right, right.

476
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 3: That's what it's called free agencies. We get you locked

477
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Speaker 3: in free agency.

478
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Speaker 2: Right. And I'm sure both would both or either would

479
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: or either would love to come back, but they might

480
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: see a system they like better out there, or that

481
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 2: all these guys have played with many different people on

482
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: other teams. Whether in college or pros or obviously and hey,

483
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: you'd be a better fit with us. Okay, I'm definitely

484
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: up to that act.

485
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Speaker 3: Or you know, hey, come come to our state. It

486
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 3: doesn't have any state sales tax things of that nature. Right,

487
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: there's all kinds of things in play.

488
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Speaker 2: Parents are there right right? You know, Justin Fields is

489
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: from Georgia, I believe, I think so.

490
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, maybe he wants to move back to

491
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Speaker 3: who knows, I want to move back South. It's just

492
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Speaker 3: it all depends on what the player wants to do. Yeah,

493
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Speaker 3: you know, there are already reports out there Devonte Adams,

494
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Speaker 3: the Jets are gonna part ways with him. They're also

495
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 3: going to get rid of Aaron Rodgers, and the reports

496
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: are already well, DeVante Adams wants to go to the

497
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Speaker 3: West Coast. That would be his prerogative.

498
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Speaker 2: He's allowed, yeah right, I mean, as long as the

499
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Speaker 2: West Coast team is gonna send him an not from

500
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Speaker 2: a contract, you can.

501
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Speaker 3: There's plenty of teams out there. Sure one of them

502
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: would love to have DeVonta Adams.

503
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Speaker 2: Is your hunch at this point? Though, with exactly a

504
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: month before free agency, do you think the Steelers have

505
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: prioritized which quarterback they would prefer or do you think

506
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: those are still ongoing talks. Here's what I think will happen,

507
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: and again this is just me bring us out there.

508
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 3: From what I know of the situation, they will have

509
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: offers on the table for both guys, I would assume,

510
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 3: unless unless they make an offer to you know, they

511
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 3: they say okay, here's here's our offer, and this guy

512
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: takes it, and then they say, okay, you know, we'll

513
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: still have this offer on the table for the other

514
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: guy if things don't work out. But you know, we'd

515
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: love to have you back. But if you think you're

516
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 3: a starter somewhere else, so be it.

517
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Speaker 2: You don't think it's a it was it Wallace AB

518
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: or is it Emmanuel Sanders AB? Where they put the

519
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: exact same Cott Wallace and Ab. Okay, whoever signs the

520
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: first the other the other one goes away. I mean,

521
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Speaker 2: I would think there'll be two different type contracts.

522
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Speaker 3: It would be too heavy. It's not gonna be the

523
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's going to be.

524
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Speaker 3: You know, here's what we're willing to pay you. Here's

525
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 3: what we're willing to pay you. And you know, if

526
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Speaker 3: one of them.

527
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Speaker 2: You want to go down that road. Yeah, right, okay,

528
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 2: And whoever acts first probably has the jump on things.

529
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Speaker 3: Because I don't know that, you know, overall, in the

530
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: grand scheme of things.

531
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Speaker 2: There is.

532
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: A lot splitting or a lot of difference between the two.

533
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: I know some people do, right, But you're looking at

534
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 3: a Bridge quarterback. The Steelers quarterback in twenty twenty seven.

535
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 3: I don't believe is on the roster right now.

536
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't either. It might not even be in the league, right,

537
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: you know, right right? No, I tend to agree now.

538
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it, though, is not that

539
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: there's urgency, but you'd go after a different type receiver

540
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: or a different type left guard or whatever. If it's

541
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: a Fields offense versus Wilson off that's why or not.

542
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: I think.

543
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Speaker 3: I think we will know more when we start doing

544
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 3: shows in Indianapolis in two weeks. That's two weeks from today. Yeah,

545
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: it's awesome, we'll be heading to Indianapolis. I think we'll

546
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 3: have a much better idea of what's what they're looking for,

547
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: of what they're doing. I don't expect Omar Khan to

548
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: come out and tell us, yes, this is exactly what

549
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 3: we're doing, but we'll have a better idea of what

550
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 3: direction they're headed in that in that quarterback market.

551
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: And they will too. I mean they're doing right now.

552
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: There's nothing that there. There are several teams out there

553
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: right now who don't know what they're doing at quarterback

554
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five.

555
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean the Titans might be one of them.

556
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: Two they first picked the draft. They get trying to.

557
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 3: The hey, we're done with Aaron Rodgers.

558
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: They don't have quarterbackup plan at all either, No quarterback

559
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: right they have nobody. And again it might be the

560
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 2: Browns have no quarterback. There's a lot raiders are all

561
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: over the place, you know, but maybe it's even we

562
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: prefer Wilson. I'm just hypothetically, but this is my top

563
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: dollar for him, which will be higher than Fields per year.

564
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: And if he wants more than that, I don't want

565
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: you that bad, you know, I want you x amount

566
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: of dollars per year bad, and Fields at a cheaper

567
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: price is more attractive then, you know, like, okay, Russ,

568
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: you first bite at the apple. Here's the best we

569
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: can do. They negotiate for a day or two. We're

570
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: too far off. Well, we love you, but we're just

571
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: in at half the price is makes more sense for

572
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: us or whatever it is. I don't even know.

573
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 3: I don't know that it's going to be. I think

574
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: people are underestimating exactly what Justin Field's market could be.

575
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what to think of it, because I

576
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 3: think there's a number of teams now. They may not say, hey,

577
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 3: Justin we're going to bring you in and you were

578
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: going to be our unquestioned starter, right, but I do

579
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 3: think that there are some teams out there that, hey,

580
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 3: we'd like to have Justin Fields in here to compete

581
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: for our starting job. Yeah, and that's gonna pus. That's

582
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: gonna push that price tag up more than the what

583
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: you see on spot tracks. Six or seven million. He's

584
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: getting get double, he's gonna get more than that.

585
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. And there are some teams that have funny money too,

586
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: I mean, that can pay whatever you want. I have

587
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: mixed feelings on that because in the end, I agree

588
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: with you because there's too many chairs in the musical

589
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: chair world, and there's not enough quarterbacks. And if this

590
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: was a year ago and there were six first round

591
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the mix, like a pretty good chance to

592
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: get one of that yeah, you know, maybe the Raiders

593
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: were like the only team that got shut out. Yeah. Yeah,

594
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: But I also think you could look at the flip

595
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: side of the coin and be like, well, anyone could

596
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 2: have matched the Steelers offer or better when he was

597
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: leaving Chicago. And I don't think his stock is worth

598
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: more now than it was then. I think it's slightly

599
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: more than that.

600
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: We saw some games, you know, but we saw flashes

601
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: of Okay, this was better than it was in Chicago.

602
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: There's actually more of that than we've even brought up,

603
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: like some of the like advanced numbers, completion rateover expectation.

604
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: There's like four or five really key metrics that have

605
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: gone up every year of Fields's career and took the

606
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: biggest spike this past season. No, it was a short

607
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: sample size. Yeah, that's the thing, is I mean, when

608
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: he started six games or something like that. It's like, Okay,

609
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: I mean, if I had a B minus grade on

610
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: him one year ago, it doesn't move up to a

611
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: B plus. No, but it doesn't move up. Maybe it

612
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: moves to a B.

613
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what I mean, Like it's

614
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: it's same bult it probably what I mean the fact

615
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: that nobody wanted to make the deal for him, tells

616
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: me it probably wasn't a B minus.

617
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: Well, I know, I'd be very kind. I mean, if

618
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: it was a seventy out of one hundred, and now

619
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: it's a seventy two, you know, and everyone out recognized

620
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: the upside. But you can't. You're great, didn't if you're

621
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: a pro staff for the Bear or not the wrong

622
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: team Cardinals, Seahawks, whoever, Colts, Yeah, anyone, it doesn't even matter.

623
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: Everyone has a greade on him and in the league

624
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: it can't gone up drastically, you know, just from his

625
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: year in Pittsburgh. I think.

626
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: People to go back to what I said about I

627
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: don't think the Steelers quarterback for twenty twenty seven is

628
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: currently was or was on the roster, wars currently part

629
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: of this right now. I think that's where people are

630
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: making the mistake. Well, Justin Fields is young. He could

631
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: be your court. He could be he could be he could.

632
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: Be right, and that's a home run that that's the

633
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: best say scenario of all.

634
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: He also could not be right. And you know, again,

635
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: I don't this this organization. The higher chance he's not,

636
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: there's a there's a much better chance that he's not

637
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: that guy than he is.

638
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean there might be a

639
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: better chance that in six years, Caleb Williams is not

640
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: the Bears quarterback, but he is I mean Lawrence. I

641
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: mean it's hard to.

642
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: Be The Rams decided Jared Goff wasn't their best way

643
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: to their best opportunity to win a Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah,

644
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: you know, teams give up on these guys. I just

645
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: think that with the team that you have now, I

646
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Speaker 3: can understand why there would be many people within the

647
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Speaker 3: organization who would feel that Russell Wilson gives you the

648
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: better chance to win. I said it before. I think

649
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: I think fields Is floor is lower than Russell Wilson's floor.

650
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think a Fields led Steeler team floor

651
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: is much lower than a Wilson leads in terms of

652
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: wins and losses. Yeah. I could paint a picture where

653
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: Fields is a starter and they win five games, you know,

654
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: like it's disaster and there's nobody else and there's nowhere

655
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: to turn and you can coach them up all you

656
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: want and you can play great defense, but he turns

657
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: out the quarterback position is bad and then you lose

658
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: a lot.

659
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: And you know, five wins. Quite frankly, folks, I know

660
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: that people just go out and win five games. You'll

661
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: get your quarterbacking. That'd be great, right, then we'll end

662
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: up with arch Manning. You know, they ain't gonna get

663
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: you arch man right, not even gonna get you in

664
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: the conversation.

665
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: For arch Manning, you're gonna have to get the gable

666
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: that own the team aren't cool with it.

667
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's that. But to get to get to arch Manning,

668
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: you gotta win two games.

669
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you gotta be worse than a lot of

670
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: really teams.

671
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: You're winning five games and you're trading your next two

672
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: first round draft picks.

673
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Speaker 2: And to get to arch Manning, it goes back to

674
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Speaker 2: our and there's some guardees. He's awesome too, you.

675
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: Know, then you're turning that way. I mean, it's it's

676
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: a tough situation.

677
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: I get it, you know.

678
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 3: And the Steelers went twenty years in between Terry Brutch

679
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: and Ben Roethlisberger, and quite frankly, Roethlisberger fell into their lap.

680
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah right, right, They didn't trade to one because they

681
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 2: were smarter than everybody else. Cleveland should have taken him,

682
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: oh absolutely absolutely, But they had Jeff Garcia. They were

683
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: quite happy with. Trust me, I was there of the

684
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: year after. I mean, so they were to take someone

685
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: from the Ure's Taylor Winslow.

686
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: There's some luck involved, you know when when the people

687
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: forget the Bills traded out of Patrick Mahomes, that was

688
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: who Kansas City traded.

689
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: Boy, I know they go up to get Mahomes. Yeah.

690
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: The next year then they traded for they got up there,

691
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: they went up to get Allen. They got lucky. They

692
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: were lucky, right, I mean, does Lamar fall to thirty

693
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: two in most drafts? Probably not? Probably not. Yeah, there

694
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: was just so many quarterbacks at the top that they

695
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: had passed on them, all righty, yeah, so there is

696
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: them luck involved.

697
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Speaker 3: But you're right, the Steelers aren't going to be cool

698
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: with going out there and winning five games, right, nor

699
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: should they be with the roster that they have.

700
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: No right thin. Cam Hayward's cool with that, No, not

701
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: at all? Not right.

702
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: And that's the thing, like, why don't they just go on?

703
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: Are don't they just tank this year?

704
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: All Right?

705
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: You be the guy that goes in and tells Cam

706
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: Hayward at thirty five, Hey, Cam, we're gonna stink this year.

707
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: So we can get our quarterback of the future. You

708
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: won't be around when he's here, but we appreciated is gone.

709
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, right, we're just gonna be really bad and

710
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: people are gonna run all over us and be fine.

711
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll enjoy you'll enjoy this, you'll enjoy the season. Well, bunch,

712
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: Well that didn't happen in folks. No matter what you

713
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: guys believe, tanking's not.

714
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: In the picture. No, nor should it be, Nor should

715
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: it be. I don't think it's a successful endeavor in

716
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: this league either.

717
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, typically doesn't work out for every team that it

718
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: does work out for. There are five that they tank

719
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: and now they're the Browns. The Browns have tanked multiple times.

720
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Speaker 3: Hasn't worked out for them.

721
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Speaker 2: No, I think the better approach is keep bringing in Linman,

722
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: try to build an Eagles roster, you know.

723
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: And then you know all it hurts in the second round. Yeah, right,

724
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: at some point you'll get that quarterback. You'll catch lightning

725
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: in a bottle.

726
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: And you might not need that quarterback, right, you might

727
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: need the right best guy in the right right or

728
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: the Rams go trade for Stafford at the right time.

729
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: You know, that type of thing that works too. Right.

730
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: You know, there are different ways to approach this. It

731
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: just doesn't have to be.

732
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: Now now now, now now, because it's not going to be,

733
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: because it's not going to be and the quarterback is

734
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 2: not gonna be now now now either. I mean, you're

735
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 2: not gonna get Josh Allen this year. Yeah, there's no doubt.

736
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: But be patient, folks.

737
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: The Steelers, for whatever you think about the Steelers, they

738
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: are patient. They don't make any decisions until they have

739
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: to make that decision. And we are a month away

740
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: from them having to make any decisions, sure regarding their

741
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: quarterback situation for twenty twenty five.

742
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: And I guarantee they're leaning one way. They have a

743
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: plan they're building up. You know, they're close to finalizing

744
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 2: a plan.

745
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: They're not going to announce it from a mountain mountaintop.

746
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: No, there's nothing to begin.

747
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: But everybody as soon as something, somebody mentioned something, they're

748
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 3: just grasping it.

749
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 2: Well, this guy said this, and that guy said that,

750
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: no chance Wilson's gonna be back, no chance Field is

751
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: gonna be back. Like I think there's chances of all

752
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 2: the above.

753
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean until it happens, there's always a chance.

754
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: So you just wait it out and see what happens. Again,

755
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: they don't have to play a game for two hundred

756
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: and fifty days, no, right, and they'll have a quarterback.

757
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: That'd be crazy. You to have to make a couple

758
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: of calls of who's available via trade. You know, Hey,

759
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold's agent, I'm curious what he cost. You know,

760
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: you need to know all this information to make these

761
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: things yet, right, right, right? And so that I mean,

762
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: they'll do their digging into draft, they'll do their.

763
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: Due diligence on all of it, and then they'll come

764
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: up with an idea of what they want to do,

765
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 3: and then they'll move forward.

766
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: Will it be well, what kind of backup are we

767
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: going to have for this guy? Yeah? You know, right?

768
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: And all that's dependent upon there are a lot of

769
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: variables in place, a lot of variables.

770
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Speaker 2: No, but it doesn't have to happen soon. It's not

771
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: gonna happen soon. No, They're not gonna be a big

772
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: announcement tomorrow. Tomorrow. Yeah, Wilson's side a four year deal.

773
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: You know that's not gonna happen. Yeah.

774
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

775
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive on

776
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I will be back

777
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: with more right after this.

778
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

779
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

780
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

781
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolli. He is

782
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and Matt. There's just some next level

783
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 3: trolling going on with some people trying to sell this

784
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: this Super Bowl as a win for Kenny Pickett.

785
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen that. That's insanity to me.

786
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: We have people on our message board coming on and

787
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: saying how embarrassing that is for the Steelers that Chris

788
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: Alaticone and Kenny Pickett were in the Super Bowl and

789
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: one of them won the Super Bowl. Did anybody say

790
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: that about the Lions when Charlie Batch won a Super

791
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: Bowl ring as the back up the Ben Roethlisberger or

792
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars from Byron Left, You know, no.

793
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 2: I mean, are we killing Carson Wentz for losing that game?

794
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: I mean he has much to do with this as Kenny

795
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: Pickett did a snap or whatever, or even.

796
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: The pitt fans both of them. We're out there cheering

797
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: this like Kenny Pickett had made such a huge impact

798
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: on this a Vonte Maddox made an impact on that game.

799
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: He said, he's a quality player.

800
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: If you want to if you want to bring that

801
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: up and thrump your chest as a pit person, well,

802
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 3: Vante Maddix want to won a Super Bowl?

803
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: Can't he? Pickett didn't do anything but neil on the ball. No,

804
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: and I know you're not. I hope Pickett goes on

805
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: to have a long retires with millions and ends up

806
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: being a starter somewhere and all those good.

807
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: But this next level trolling, like making this look like this,

808
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: like the Steelers screwed up.

809
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 2: He wanted out of here. You've gotten those tweets too,

810
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: Like if they we just kept Picket, we wouldn't have

811
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: any of these problems. Look how smart the Eagles are everything.

812
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: The Eagles touched on of Gold, folks, I know he

813
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: was the backup yesterday. They like Tanner McKey more than

814
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: they like Picket. They really liked Tanner McKee. And if

815
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: it was going to be a long stretch of one

816
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: of those two starting, it wouldn't be Picket. I can

817
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 2: promise you that, and that's not a bash on picket.

818
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: They like McKee.

819
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 3: He played in one game this year, yeah right, right,

820
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: a serious amount of snaps and they lost to Washington,

821
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: largely because Pickett couldn't.

822
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 2: Do anything right. And again I'm wishing him the best.

823
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 2: But to be like man, he showed you. I proved

824
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: you're right. He was a great first round pick, you know. No,

825
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 2: I mean he has not made it in this career.

826
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: And yet good for him. He won a Super Bowl ring. Right,

827
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: He's proud of his ring. Absolutely, He's ever going to

828
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: take it away from practice and in the quarterback room

829
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: and has won a couple of Super Bowl rings. As

830
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: the backup for the for the Chiefs, he's played one

831
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: career snap. Doesn't mean the sure ship held odd to him. No, Yeah,

832
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: like that happens across the league. Yes, that's just the

833
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: backup quarterback.

834
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: I can I can. You know, if we go back

835
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 3: and look at the Super Bowl rosters when the Steelers

836
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: won Super Bowls, there are plenty of guys. Tell me

837
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: Tyrone Carter Minnesota Vikings. He was a homegrown, hometown hero

838
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: for the Vikings. They came out of the University of Minnesota.

839
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: They let him go. Yeah, it happens. Yeah, yeah, it happens.

840
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: Or the tenth offensive lineman that gets a ring, or

841
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: the ninth offensive lineman or the guy an active deth

842
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: tackle or whatever. Okay, I mean they probably went it

843
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: without you.

844
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Steven Nelson was on the on the Chiefs roster too.

845
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: They elevated them from their practice squads. The Steelers feel

846
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 3: bad because Steven Nelson was in the Super Bowl.

847
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have seen some of the Pickets stuff. Quite frankly,

848
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 2: get a life, get over it. There was a stretch

849
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: here where Picket walked on water and nothing was ever

850
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: his fault. I thought that was gone. I mean, I

851
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: thought we saw enough of him not being coveted by

852
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: the league or the Eagles even and considering putting him

853
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: in the starting frond.

854
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 3: The Steelers got more for Kenny Pickett, then they gave

855
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 3: up to get Justin Fields.

856
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah he did.

857
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: I again, I don't know that the story is written

858
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 3: on either guy.

859
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: No, I hope not.

860
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 3: And I still think Kenny Pickett could be a good

861
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: quarterback in this league.

862
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: But he's not there yet. No, And I thought he

863
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: did some good things here. Yeah, there were stretches that

864
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 2: I was pretty excited about him, to be very honest

865
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: with you, but he didn't want to be here. I'd

866
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: rather have Fields or Wilson. I don't think the Steelers

867
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 2: regret it one bit or got too little in return.

868
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: I mean, and I'm sure, and that's a good Eagle thing.

869
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: They did it with Beck then, you know, like again

870
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: I praise the Eagle front office. They go get high

871
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 2: pedigree dudes and see what they can do with them.

872
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: But if Beck then didn't work out, nobody would care

873
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: one bit, you know. I mean, it's just it's a

874
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: dart throw and a couple of darts hit the bulls eye.

875
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 2: Kenny has it yet?

876
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: If Kenny Pickett had come in and played in the

877
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: Super Bowl like the old backup uh.

878
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: The last oh Foles.

879
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he had come in and played like Nick

880
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: Foles and won the Super Bowl, that's a whole different

881
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 3: that's a different story.

882
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: I would get the I would get it. I'd be like, Wow,

883
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: good for him, that's awesome.

884
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 3: That's fantastic. You're right, the Steelers are wrong about that guy.

885
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: But simply him winning a Super Bowl as a backup

886
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: quarterback and taking taking knee three times and thrown in completion,

887
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: which was the dumbest thing that I've seen ever.

888
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 2: I mean, every backup quarterback could have done a picket

889
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: did last yesterday.

890
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: I could have done with it quite frankly. I could

891
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 3: have gone in, kneeled down three times and thrown and

892
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: then completion.

893
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: Ye yesterday should not change your opinion on Kenny Pickett. One.

894
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: And if you're trolling over that, do you think the

895
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: Steeler should be embarrassed over that?

896
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. And hey, you loved him a pit and

897
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: you've been rooting for him forever. That's cool. You're a fan.

898
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: You can be a Kenny Pickett fan. And he was

899
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: great a pit and I you know, he did some

900
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: good things as a Steeler as well. But don't think

901
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: for one minute they're like adding, oh man, they wanted

902
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: him back. They wanted him right, he wanted out.

903
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: Let's not like they when they signed Russell Wilson, it

904
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 3: was with the idea that Kenny Pickett would be the backup.

905
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: They then called Kenny Pickett said, hey, we're signing Russell Wilson.

906
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: He's going to be our presumed starter for next year. Yeah,

907
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: what do you think of that? I want out?

908
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: Okay? They then made the trade for Justin Fields. That's

909
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: the way traded traded Picket and traded for Justin Fields, right.

910
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: And they would have been nuts to just roll with

911
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 2: Picket last year, right, you know, and not make any

912
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: kind of move. I mean, there's other moves they could

913
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: have been that weren't Fields or Russ. But to be like, Kenny,

914
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: you're the guy. You know, you're doing fine, We're happy with.

915
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 3: You, it would have been it would have been foolish

916
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: or embarrassing for the Steelers if if they had done that.

917
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: They had done that, right, yeah, like, oh, we just

918
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: trust our evaluation from college. He's fine, you.

919
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: Know, Or if they would have just rolled into this

920
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 3: season Kenny Pickett no backup plan after he had gotten

921
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: benched at the end of the previous season, right in

922
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: favor of Mason Rudolph, who outplayed him, who outplayed him.

923
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's just the way it works, guys. Yeah,

924
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of patience for that that position.

925
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: You want to tell me.

926
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: That they should have been embarrassed that that, you know,

927
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 3: they should be embarrassed that they didn't give Mason Rudolph

928
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: a chance earlier. All right, I'll entertain that right, But

929
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: to just say, wow, they should be embarrassed. A Kenny

930
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: Pickett won a ring. They've had lots of guys who've

931
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: won rings elsewhere.

932
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: Tons some of them were a reason to actually, how

933
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 2: about Mike Rabel? Should they be embarrassed?

934
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: And they let Mike Rabel go to the They couldn't

935
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 3: figure out what to do with him.

936
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: Right, Like the ram should be embarrassed. They couldn't figure

937
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: out Roome bettis Yeah, go draft right.

938
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: Right, Jets should be embarrassed. They couldn't figure out that

939
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: James Ferrier was a really good football player.

940
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: And the Steelers aren't impervious to this either. You know

941
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: it happens Kevin Dotson, he's better there than he was here. Okay,

942
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: maybe they got something out of him we couldn't, and

943
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: we should evaluate what we did wrong there.

944
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: Sometimes a guy getting traded.

945
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: Sparks them, sparks them or exact, we're not.

946
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: Doing something right. I got too comfortable with my old job.

947
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a room was better here than

948
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: he was with the Ramts like getting fired.

949
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I got to.

950
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: Reassess what's going on here in my life that made

951
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: these people not want me any.

952
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: If you're a Mackay Beckton, then life's been easy for

953
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: you because you're six eleven and you're five hundred pounds

954
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: and you can run at four to two. Maybe I

955
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: don't hear when you walk like your godzilla.

956
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but there's been plenty of I mean,

957
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: you think the Bengals didn't regret Chemo von olhoffen leaving

958
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 3: and guys started in a Super Bowl for the Steeler.

959
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: James Ferrier, right, a million, right, right right, there's a

960
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: million of them. You know.

961
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: James Harrison not only got cut by the Steelers, get

962
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: cut by the Ravens.

963
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: And those are the most those are the examples that

964
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: are more prevalent. The Farriers and von o'hoffin's and Dotson's

965
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback, isn't the same, Not the same thing,

966
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: not the same, that's just next. He did not contribute

967
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: to their win. No, maybe he gave Hurts it tip

968
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: in the quarterback room once this year that's stuck with them,

969
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: or gave him a good look on scout team. But

970
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: they did win super Bowls of Kenny picks.

971
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 3: They did not, right, they did not. They actually had

972
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: made super Bowls without Kenny Pickett. Probably would of this

973
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: year too, probably had done so this And I.

974
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: Bet McKee could have kneeled out that game too. I'm

975
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: pretty sure he could, absolutely and I'm knocking picket. I

976
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: hope he got great, but I have gotten those tweets too. Yeah.

977
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

978
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Speaker 3: I'm Dale Allie. That's going to do for our number

979
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Speaker 3: one of the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

980
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Speaker 3: I'll be back with our number two right after this.