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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Serena

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Speaker 1: and I am here minus Joe today for a girl

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Speaker 1: chat episode. We are joined by the lovely April, and

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Speaker 1: April is not only from the first season of The

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Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor, but is one of the first ever Golden

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Speaker 1: contestants to be down on the beaches for Bachelor in

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Speaker 1: Paradise this season.

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Speaker 2: Hi, April, Hi, I haven't been on for a long time,

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Speaker 2: so I'd like to pretend that it's not a big deal,

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Speaker 2: but it is.

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Speaker 1: It is a big deal. And you know why it's

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Speaker 1: also a big deal is because last time you were on,

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Speaker 1: I was very sick and you were just here with Joe.

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Speaker 1: And now Joe is not here and you're just here

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Speaker 1: with me. So you're getting some of our only solo episodes,

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Speaker 1: which makes sense.

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Speaker 2: So how are you doing good? Everybody's good over there.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's good. Everything's wonderful. We're in New York. We're loving

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Speaker 1: watching this season. We thought episode three was so fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I'm in New York.

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Speaker 1: Are you in New York, New York?

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Speaker 2: I'm outside, Nayak.

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Speaker 1: Did you really? Oh my gosh, we're in West Chelsea.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay. Yeah. So I'm like, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to try to get some work going out here, and

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Speaker 2: my family's out here. So my daughter went to UM

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Speaker 2: and meets you know, down in Miami the Gables, and

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Speaker 2: lo and behold she meets a New Yorker and the

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Speaker 2: rest is history. So yeah, so I'm here. I'm in

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Speaker 2: New YORKA.

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Speaker 1: How long have you been in New York?

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Speaker 2: Not long enough to not get lost. I actually get

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Speaker 2: lost every time I go out. And last night there

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Speaker 2: was a big rainstorm and I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I hope I get home all right. But yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I love it. It has a great energy, great vibe, and

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Speaker 2: I needed this. You know, Ralph had passed away, my

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Speaker 2: partner of twenty three twenty four years, and I was stuck.

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Speaker 2: And then my I have two grandchildren, a seven year

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Speaker 2: old and a four year old little girl. So my

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Speaker 2: accountant said, you know, you spent ten thousand dollars in

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Speaker 2: airfare in the last year. I went, oh, okay, I

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Speaker 2: gotta go to my family. I'm Italian.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to be near your family. Joe's Italian too,

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Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, all right, let's backtrack. So you

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Speaker 1: got the call and they said, April were interested in

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Speaker 1: you coming to Bachelor in Paradise. What was your initial reaction?

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Speaker 2: Literally, I had we had had some issues with the

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Speaker 1: So you guys were like so close. So for those listening,

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Speaker 1: asking was April, Susan, Kathy and Nancy right.

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Speaker 2: And we had a very public falling out and I

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Speaker 2: really felt that that hurt me with Bachelor Nation and then,

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Speaker 2: you know, I did a lot of introspection and what

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Speaker 2: the first show did for me, and it did a

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Speaker 2: couple things. It let me know I wasn't over aggrieving,

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Speaker 2: and it did let me know that I still had

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Speaker 2: trauma from early teen with bullying that I had to

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Speaker 2: work through. So I took that experience, you know, and

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Speaker 2: I kind of I felt like I got ostracized, kind

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Speaker 2: of like pushed aside. And I don't know if that

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Speaker 2: probably just my heart, my little girl heart, like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, they don't like me anymore. And so then

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Speaker 2: I went in and said, what is this about me? Why?

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Speaker 2: Why is why did I react the way I did?

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Speaker 2: First of all, I'm not mean, I'm never mean, And

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Speaker 2: second of all, I am intuitive and I just want

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Speaker 2: to love everybody. And when I don't feel that way.

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Speaker 2: My first response is, you know, it's either fight flight,

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Speaker 2: play dead, you know, or Fawn. I do fawn really well,

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Speaker 2: but you can't fond girls very well. So anyhow well,

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Speaker 2: you could, but I don't. So I just backed out,

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Speaker 2: you know, and I did my work. So I came

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Speaker 2: back this time a completely different person. I am all

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Speaker 2: of myselves. All myselves are coming out in this show.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy it. I hope my daughter's not upset. No.

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Speaker 1: So, going to the beach, I'm assuming you knew that

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Speaker 1: Kathy would likely be there. Where was your relationship with

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Speaker 1: Kathy going to Paradise?

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Speaker 2: Well, it was? It was. She was afraid when she

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Speaker 2: saw me, and I just put my arms around her

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Speaker 2: and I said, I love you, I'll take responsibility. You

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Speaker 2: affected areas of my life. And and I just had

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Speaker 2: to decide do I love bachelor number one? And do

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Speaker 2: I know I know Kathy very well? And do I

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Speaker 2: know her issues? And I think some of her issues

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Speaker 2: reflected my issues the truth? And number two, I had

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Speaker 2: to decide if I loved her just for who she was. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I walked up and just said that, you know,

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Speaker 2: I said, you know, I was, you know, let things

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Speaker 2: I love you no matter what. When I decide I

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Speaker 2: love you, I love you, so no matter what. She says, now,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go p So we're good. But she

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Speaker 2: was a little bit in fact, she just I just

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Speaker 2: talked to her last week and she goes, I'm so

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Speaker 2: happy we're good friends. I love you, And I was like,

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Speaker 2: so that's put to sleep forever. Even Susan was on

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Speaker 2: the line. And then Nancy and I never had a problem.

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Speaker 2: Nancy's a sweetheart. And Susan got on the line and

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Speaker 2: sent me a beautiful text too, So it's all good.

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Speaker 2: It's all good, and I think we all learned. Also,

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Speaker 2: when you are on a show like that, you know,

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Speaker 2: changes your who you think you are, what you think

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Speaker 2: you are. That's what I got out of it. I

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Speaker 2: got out of a better April.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm ready to you know, rip roer and kick

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Speaker 2: some butt.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like going on the Bachelor or the

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Speaker 1: Bachelorette is such a learning experience for everyone, Like you

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Speaker 1: learn so much about yourself and then you have that yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you want, if you're open to it, and then

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Speaker 1: you have break and then going back on Paradise is

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Speaker 1: like this fresh start, this new beginning.

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Speaker 2: I'm a different person on this show. I think people

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Speaker 2: are gonna be but actually I'm the real person on

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Speaker 2: this show. The other person was guarded, worried, you know,

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Speaker 2: the commotion and all of that. I really didn't know

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Speaker 2: how to handle it this time. I didn't care how

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Speaker 2: to handle it. I just like, I'm out there. My

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Speaker 2: aunt child's running a mock, My sexy self's running a mock,

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Speaker 2: my religious self is, my spiritual self is running a monk.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna see a lot of different facets of April,

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Speaker 2: but it'll be fun. I had a blast soil.

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Speaker 1: You say you went in feeling just like your best

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Speaker 2: I went in and someone from California, who knows everybody there,

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Speaker 2: she says, we know who you are. I want you

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Speaker 2: to flow. You just flow above it like your why

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Speaker 2: but you're you're in it, but you're still connected to

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Speaker 2: your true self. And that's what I did. I stayed connected.

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Speaker 2: I used my mind a little bit more than letting

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Speaker 2: my reactions. There were no reactions from me because I

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Speaker 2: was the watcher it's like watching a Netflix and you're

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Speaker 2: just like, that's not me, that's me. That's what I feel.

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Speaker 1: So well, we see you come in, you look gorgeous,

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Speaker 1: You're with all the other Goldens, You're coming out on

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Speaker 1: a bow. Everyone's so excited to see you. And we've

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Speaker 1: heard from some of the contestants Whiles Jesse, that you

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Speaker 1: What was that first day in Paradise?

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, this show before that, you know, was really

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Speaker 2: traumatic for the young kids. And I call them young kids.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, because they're like my babies. I

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Speaker 2: that way about them. I made. I absolutely adore them.

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Speaker 2: But they were emotionally high strung, much more than the Goldens.

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Speaker 2: I think. Of course, losing a bathing suit top is

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Speaker 2: so you know, we have wisdom is important. So but

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Speaker 2: they were very upset about, you know, the breakup and

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Speaker 2: I think we offered all all of them the men

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Speaker 2: and the women offered everybody a safety grounding space, and

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Speaker 2: the facility that where we stayed was gorgeous. We were

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Speaker 2: them said, and I can't remember which one, but some

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Speaker 2: you guys are like have more energy, and you know,

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Speaker 2: you're more pistols than we are. Of course they were

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Speaker 2: pistols in another way, you know. Now you know they

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Speaker 1: the contestants telling you, like, guess what happened last night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they started to tell us and their eyes were

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Speaker 2: I know why I'm here now.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, ladies, let me get a drink first, I

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about this and we're going to

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Speaker 2: pull it apart. And one person that I did know

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Speaker 2: about and and they I got to room with her

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Speaker 2: And I roomed with her and we spent times talking

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Speaker 2: intimately about our families, our trauma, our heartbreaks, our insecurities.

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Speaker 2: We did angel cards, we did meditation, we did counting,

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Speaker 2: we did breathing. And she's a lovely person. She's I

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Speaker 2: hope everyone hears that and gives her kudos. And I

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Speaker 2: think when you're young, you react a lot. I sometimes react.

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Speaker 2: I reset a lot. I reset every day. I am

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Speaker 2: not perfect, but they're they're young, they're experiencing things. But

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Speaker 2: she's just a lovely human being, and I just even

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Speaker 2: two nights ago, I talked to her mom and so

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Speaker 2: I said, well, I'm I'm the other mom. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for sharing this lovely woman with me, this young woman.

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Speaker 2: And then my daughter sent Kat a text and said,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to share my mom with you. So I

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Speaker 2: hope continues that we I'm there for her and now

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Speaker 2: I'm going to I don't know when since I've been

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Speaker 2: on The Bachelor, I cry a lot.

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Speaker 1: METO is that I don't know, I'm way more emotionals,

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Speaker 1: sins being or I'm way more maybe just in tune

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Speaker 2: I just love Kat and I just think.

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Speaker 1: That you guys definitely have a special bond and it

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Speaker 1: shows even in this first episode on your first meeting.

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Speaker 2: I think we look different than we are. I think

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Speaker 2: Cat and I work really hard to be okay, but

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Speaker 2: I actually was just hoping that everybody would give everyone

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Speaker 2: I think that's his real personality. He's just he reminds

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Speaker 1: How was the kiss did? Was it giving more friendship vibes?

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Speaker 2: Actually? I really like him a lot, And like I said,

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Speaker 2: I don't know about men. Sometimes I think men just

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Speaker 1: What's your type? What's your type?

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Speaker 2: My type is? I really like European men. I really

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Speaker 2: I'm Italian. I like short Italian with a little bit

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Speaker 2: They think it's charmingly ridiculous. It is ridiculous, but I

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say anything anything yet. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: I loved it. I thought it was hilarious to watch.

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Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, the funny thing about it is

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Speaker 2: There are no words. I still talk to her all

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Speaker 2: Kathy is very instantaneous. That's what makes her funny.

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Speaker 2: And I really do want to know. I was attracted

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Speaker 1: So was there any guys going into Paradise that you

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Speaker 1: You want the crew I love.

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Speaker 2: There's one man and I want to do make it up.

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Speaker 2: I came in and he said, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: And that was so comforting to me. I don't know

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Speaker 2: Yeah? They really were. They had it all sewn up.

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Speaker 2: Which that's the way life is, that's the way love works.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what this game's about. People pair off

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Speaker 2: he is a wonderful guy. I can't speak highly of it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I really He's raised daughters on his own.

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Speaker 2: Probably one of the most intuitive men there that really

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Speaker 1: I love that. That's a great quality.

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Speaker 2: Right, He's seeing what's happening and he's going like this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like she went right in there and and

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Speaker 1: Jonathan and Jill. Did you see that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I did, and I got so upset because by

432
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Speaker 2: this time, I'm favoring Jonathan.

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Speaker 1: Right Unfortunately he's your man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's my man, He's my son. I mean, I

435
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: love him. I'm like, good to go to the death

436
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Speaker 2: for him, and they they just didn't. I don't a

437
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: lot of people don't understand Jonathan, a lot of the

438
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Speaker 2: girls because after all of these things happened, they were like, yo,

439
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Speaker 2: that's just the way he is, or yeah he doesn't

440
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Speaker 2: I don't even know why he's hear this, and he

441
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: says he's I don't know, like I was hearing all

442
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: this chatter since I'm in the girls hall, you know,

443
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: and I'm new. I don't know him very much, but yeah,

444
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Speaker 2: I don't know what how he approaches women, you know,

445
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. I'm not in that part

446
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: of his life. And he he can piss people, women off,

447
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Speaker 2: just I always see. I get the cats and the

448
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Speaker 2: Jonathan to see this. I'm a therapist.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's had a few like missus. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: he's putting himself out there, and I see that in respect,

451
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Speaker 1: he's trying.

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Speaker 2: He seems to be trying, right, But I mean, I

453
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: see if I could talk to him privately, are you

454
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Speaker 2: really putting yourself in there? There's times I look like

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Speaker 2: I'm putting myself out there and I'm not right. My

456
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: soul is not, my heart's not. I'm not in it

457
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: for whatever billion one reasons. And I think he's adorable.

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Speaker 2: He dresses well, he looks cute, he's polite, he's and

459
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Speaker 2: these girls were.

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Speaker 1: Like interesting, Ifril's going to fight him, she's like, don't

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Speaker 1: say it.

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Speaker 2: And I know I really want to help, you know,

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Speaker 2: And you know one thing about and I've heard this

464
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: about myself too. When you hear the same story about

465
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Speaker 2: yourself or the same comment from different people who don't

466
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Speaker 2: know you that they're not together, it's usually correct.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there's some weight to the comments.

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Speaker 2: I think so I would like to investigate that further.

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Speaker 1: Well, he is still on the beach. So far he

470
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Speaker 1: seems like he might be yet a little bit of risk,

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Speaker 1: but we'll have to see what happens in episode four.

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Speaker 1: Did you go to the premiere party in La?

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Speaker 2: Oh? My god? Okay, that was completely more relaxed for me.

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Speaker 2: We went out afterwards. We went to the sleazy little bar,

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Speaker 2: which I love, sleezy bars. That's my favorite place, like

476
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Speaker 2: a dirty little you know, hangout, and we danced all night.

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Speaker 2: We had fun. I stayed with Leslie. Leslie and I

478
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Speaker 2: are close, and they were wonderful. I'm a music person,

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00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: so if you if Barry White comes on, or Stevie Wonder,

480
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 2: Earth Wind and Fire or anybody, I like them all.

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Speaker 2: I mean I like them all, but I mean especially

482
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Speaker 2: something from our generation. I'll grab your hand and I'm

483
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: good dancing. That's it. And then we become more intimate

484
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: because we're touching, we're looking at each other, we're laughing,

485
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Speaker 2: we're trying to get in step with each other. And

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Speaker 2: I love them. I mean, I had a blast. I

487
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: had so much fun. That was the best thing I've

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Speaker 2: done in a year.

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Speaker 1: I just oh, that's amazing. That's a great way to

490
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Speaker 1: celebrate the show starting.

491
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Speaker 2: And the girls were all wonderful. Everybody was there. In fact,

492
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Speaker 2: I got to talk to Kat's mom. Cat took me

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Speaker 2: aside and she goes, I want to do FaceTime with

494
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Speaker 2: my mom. I want you to meet my mom. So

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00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: we had a lovely conversation, and so I just I

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Speaker 2: had a blast because the pressure was off right. It

497
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: was just like, let's just have fun. And the girls

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00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: were relaxed. And my hair didn't come out that great,

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Speaker 2: but that's all right, it was all right, It was okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you looked beautiful. Were you so happy that

501
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 1: you didn't have to sleep in bunk beds this season?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I would have, though I'm not from

503
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Speaker 2: money at all. So I grew up without air conditioning

504
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: on a chicken farm, and you know, my feet probably

505
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: had chicken poop and duck poo bottom at the bottom

506
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 2: of them all the time, and a gravel you know,

507
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: you had to like toughen up your feet to walk

508
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: on the gravel in the driveway. It was really old school.

509
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: So I would have made it. I'm fine, I can

510
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: dig in, you know, I can dig it. I was like, there,

511
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: whatever you wanted to bring to me, bachelor, bring it on,

512
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: make my day. Okay, I'm in to win the game

513
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: of life. That's what I'm that's my that's my In

514
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: time something goes wrong, I go, this is a test

515
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: and I'm going to win the Game of Life. So

516
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: that's what I do. So, yes, I could have made it,

517
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: but yes, I'm glad. It was air conditioning. But then

518
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Speaker 2: Kat likes to keep the air conditioning real low.

519
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: Oh she likes to be a little warm in the room.

520
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I no, I like it warm. She

521
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: likes to keep it then high. Is that what I'm saying.

522
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: She likes it cold, right, she likes it cold. I

523
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: like it warm because I'm from Florida. You know, I've

524
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Speaker 2: spent twenty some years there. So I'm like.

525
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Speaker 1: Shivering all night.

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Speaker 2: She was, I know, it's no no, And I would

527
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Speaker 2: sneak in, and I think she knew I would like

528
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: hit it a little bit. I was very polite. I

529
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: didn't know. And oh those girls, they're clothes and they're

530
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: so glamorous.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's so beautiful this season.

532
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Speaker 2: God, I wanted to like just take makeup lessons from them.

533
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Speaker 1: I know it looks so fun. Everyone looks beautiful, but

534
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Speaker 1: Ac definitely helps that. April.

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Speaker 2: We are only.

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Speaker 1: Three episodes into the season. We have lots to go.

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Speaker 1: We hope to see a lot more of you. Can

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Speaker 1: you finish us off by teasing what viewers can expect

539
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Speaker 1: for the rest of the season.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well you might see a unicorn. You may see

541
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: me jump into the wild and just do a little

542
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: bit of animalistic things. You may see me. I was

543
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Speaker 2: raised in a very strict religious Thank god. My mother

544
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: is dead a shit and my grandma, my aunt Jenny's

545
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: gonna kill me. I did something that you guys know

546
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: what it's called with a lemon or something.

547
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: Did you do it like a body shot?

548
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: Oh that's what it's called. Oh God, yeah, okay, I

549
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 2: pray for somebody and then what else? I mean, then

550
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: I get frisky, so and I do. I do express

551
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: my feelings, and that is interesting to see how that

552
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: turns out. It's a cliffhanger, even in my mind.

553
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: Amazing, what happened?

554
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: What happened? There's so much going on. I mean, oh,

555
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

556
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: Well, I'm on the edge of my seat to watch

557
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: you be vulnerable. I'm on the edge of my seat

558
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: to see you take a body shot. And thank you

559
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: so so much for coming on today, for taking the

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Speaker 1: time to chat with us.

561
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh, and I had a little baby bird

562
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: while I was there too. Well, pet, I'll tell you that. Yeah,

563
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: so I have a little baby bird. Whole other story.

564
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll have to have you back on to show

565
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: that with right.

566
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I love you guys, I love

567
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: Bachelor Nation. I'm grateful to be back and I can't

568
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: say enough the entire group, everybody in in that show

569
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: was wonderful and I'll hold it as one of my

570
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: dearest memories forever and ever, which I hope for a

571
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: long time.

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00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: It is a very special experience and it will be

573
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: a long time. And thank you so much for listening

574
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: to another episode of Bachelor Happy Hour. Be sure to

575
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: continue to tune in to watch Bachelor in Paradise every

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00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: single week, and don't forget to subscribe. We will have

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Speaker 1: new instusive interviews coming your way. I