1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling railvalry. No, no, sibling, 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: you don't do that with your mouth revelry. That's good. 6 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: Oliver Hudson, reporting live from Rules of Engagement. No, this 7 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: show is called sibling Revelry. I'm not gonna do much 8 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: of a preamble here because I'm all preambled out now 9 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: because we've got Derek Huff waiting in the waiting room. 10 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: I've known the man for a minute now. He's a 11 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: good man. He's a handsome man. He's a host, he's 12 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: a dad, he's a husband. He's the number one judge 13 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: on DW twos Dancing with the Stars. I think that's 14 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: how to say it. It works with his sister, there's 15 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: a lot to talk about, just bringing man, let's get 16 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: to this ship. Yo. What up? 17 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: Ah? What's up? Dude? 18 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: How are you man? 19 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: How's it going? I'm good man, I'm. 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 2: Good, good good. We finally made it happen. I'm happy. 21 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on, dude. 22 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: Thanks brother, I appreciate you. 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: Man, but you've been well, man, you're fucking killing it 24 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: right now. 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: Dude. I'm just you know, I'm just doing what I can. Man, 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: I know why I can't. 27 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: I know, I'm with you. 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, before I get before I have this baby, and 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, and it's all gonna change. 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: No, I know, I know, I know. Well, the hustle 31 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: is real. But you're doing extra right now. You're the 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: judge on Dancing with the Stars, right, this is what 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: we're doing. 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: Now, Yes, that's right. 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: And your sister is hosting. 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, So you guys ever get. 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: You guys ever get sick if you each other? I mean, 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: you know, it's like you're together all the time. You're 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: doing ship all the time. My sister and I the same. 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: You know, we do this show all the time. But 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: is it ever like all right, Jules, like, let's just 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: take a break. 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. Actually it's weird because we actually 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: we like never see each other. Actually don't know, we 45 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 3: really don't. We we literally see each other on set 46 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: like what you see on TV. We don't see each other. 47 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: She's off in her hosting world over there. Yeah, the 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: judges are over here. So we actually don't even interact 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: when we're on the show. There's a few moments where 50 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: we do like a few selfies or something during the show, 51 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: but we like actually never see each other, so it's 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 3: kind of funny. But we also we kind of give 53 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: each other like little uh you know, uh, I don't know, 54 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: kind of rise each other a little bit. You know 55 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: that's the wrong word, but. 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: Now a whole different words. 57 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: Yo. 58 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: Yo, she's got rizz. He's got riz. 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: As I'm learning, I'm trying to keep up. 60 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: Man up, Well you're so this is number one. This 61 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: is your baby, Your baby's number one. 62 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: Number one. Man, this is number one is crazy, I 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: believe at forty years old, and I'm crazy starting. 64 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: So good for you though, Yeah, man, how many they have? 65 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: I have three? They just came home. As my dogs 66 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: are barking, I'm like, I'm like buried in my you know, 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: you're in every house, there's a room that's supposed to 68 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: be a room of some kind, but it turns into 69 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: a storage room. Yes, you know, it's just shit everywhere. 70 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so. 71 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: When my kids come home, you know, I've got nowhere 72 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: to go because I've got nowhere to go. So now 73 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: I'm in the storage room. Yeah, I'm eighteen, I have 74 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: fifteen and I have twelve. 75 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: Amazing. Man, that's incredible. That's amazing. 76 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: And it's it's nutty. How you feeling. How's it feel? 77 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: I feel good. It's funny, like I feel like sometimes 78 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: I'm like in the you know, I'm doing things and 79 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: then I look over and I see my pregnant wife. 80 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: Your beautiful belly is starting to hop crazy. He her 81 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: belly button. Just yesterday, I just noticed it started to 82 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: starting to kind of. 83 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: Like spread out a little bit, and I was. 84 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: Like, whoa, you know, felt the baby kick. Actually, at 85 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: the time I felt the baby kick, we were watching 86 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: f one in the movie theater and it was really loud. 87 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 3: I was like, man, maybe okay, and then Hailey was like, 88 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: hey feel and you know, the baby's like hey, keep 89 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: it down out there. 90 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but it was. 91 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 3: It's amazing. Man, I'm excited about it. I'm excited. 92 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: I bet, I bet. How do you have any fear? Honestly? Like, 93 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: is there any fear? Or is it just kind of 94 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: like you know what, I'm gonna roll with it. 95 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: No. 96 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: Like, here's the thing. As I've gotten older, I've realized 97 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: that I'm I'm a worrier. I worry, and I never 98 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: really considered myself like that. But after Haley had her 99 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: you know, her brain surgery. Yeah, I think it just 100 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: amplified everything a little bit where I'm a little bit 101 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: more or like cautious. You know, there was a moment 102 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: when we're about to go on tour, the day that 103 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: we're about to go back out on tour after she 104 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: you know, forty percent of her school is missing. You know, 105 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: she's got this massive plate in her head. She wasn't 106 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: supposed to survive. We're about to go on tour, We're 107 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: dancing together. I'm already a nervous wreck, and I just 108 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: hear a boom in the shower and she had full 109 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: slipped back and fell in the shower. And I look 110 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: over and she's like this and she's like it's okay, 111 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: I caught myself. And I'm like, and it's weird. That 112 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: moment kind of just as like this to this day. 113 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: When I get out of the shower, I like, squeeze 114 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: you the floor, make sure the dope soper conditioner on it. 115 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: But I'm like already like paranoid about that. So now 116 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: I'm like okay with the child. Yeah, I have twenty 117 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: twenty five nieces and nephews, and I am like, you know, 118 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: covering corners. 119 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: You've done it, yeah, I know you you you've done 120 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: it right, You've done the nieces and the nephews, you know. 121 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: But that that there's always the first one's always nutty 122 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: because you just wanted to survive, you know what I mean. 123 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: It's just like, holy shit, what am I doing? You know, 124 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: in the infant stages anyway, you know, I remember with 125 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: wild or my first one. You're just so you know, 126 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: there's a paranoia, there's love and there's paranoia. It's all mixed. 127 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: All emotions are just mixed together. You know, you're walking, 128 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: You're going in there every night, like making sure the 129 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: kid is breathing. Oh my god. And then by the 130 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: third one, it's just kind of like, okay, I'm sure 131 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: she'll be fine. I'm sure she'll be fine. You know. 132 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got this, you got this here. 133 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 134 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, luckily, like you know, we have a 135 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: lot of friends and a lot of people who are like, okay, 136 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: this is what you need. You need like, you know, 137 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: if you need like to sleep a little bit more 138 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: night nurse thing, yeah, yeah, which is amazing because I 139 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: think back to, like, you know, my parents, our parents. 140 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 3: I'm sure, yeah, I mean my mom had five kids. 141 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, a night nurse, Like what is that? 142 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: You know? And you know, so so I feel fortunate 143 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: that we're able to find a little bit of maybe 144 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: some relief. We'll see, but I think I'm still gonna 145 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: be up, like freaking of course. 146 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: Of course, so with your wife. Man, that's crazy, that's right. 147 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: I forgot about that when that shit went down. I mean, 148 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: that is a scary, scary moment for you guys. What 149 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: was it do? How is it even recognize? 150 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: We were on stage, we were on stage in front 151 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: of four thousand people, and we were at the end 152 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: of the show, and she just was kind of doing 153 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: this with her eye, like she's kind of like squinting, 154 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: and she's like and then she starts like she, you know, 155 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: audibly was making discomfort, you know, noises, like, and I 156 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: thought it was her neck because you know, this is 157 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: like a yeah, and so I'm protecting her neck as 158 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: we're dancing and we're just kind of keep moving forward 159 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: and you know, show must go on kind of thing, 160 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: and just protecting her and then we're supposed to come 161 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: out for this moment and she didn't come out, and 162 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: I was like, that's weird, and the stage manager she's 163 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: not coming out. I was like, okay, and then I 164 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: just you know, you're in front of this audience, so 165 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: you're just kind of like talking insane things. And the 166 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: irony of it all was that in that moment, I'm 167 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: talking about a friend of mine that passed away, and 168 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: I'm talking about how fragile and precious life is and 169 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: how it's fleeting, and you know that we cherish the 170 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: ones that we love, and and meanwhile she's literally dying 171 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: on the side of the stage. 172 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: Like actually, in that moment, like it was that. 173 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: Bad, it was that acute that she was at that 174 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: point having seizures and she doesn't remember anything she was 175 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: she was on stage, and then she's you know, all 176 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: this crazy scary stuff happened, the ambulance rushed into the hospitals, 177 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: all these different things, and here's a crazy fact. Actually 178 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: later on, First of all, the doctor was like, you know, 179 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: it's not good. It's very severe, and even if she survives, 180 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: because it's that bad, she's she probably isn't gonna be 181 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: the same person that you know, because you know this 182 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: kind of brain bleaed, this kind of swelling, paralysis, speech 183 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: compairamid you know, all these different things. So basically you've 184 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 3: lost the person that you knew. And we just got married, 185 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: by the way, three months three months before that. But 186 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 3: the crazy story about this, you know, fortunately she's here. 187 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: Everything was we had these amazing triumphs. But you know, 188 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: I talked about that time because it was like the 189 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: hardest time and one of the best times ever because 190 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: all of a sudden everything gets kind of wiped clean, 191 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, her getting up to go 192 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: to the bathroom was like the best day of my life, 193 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It was like, this is 194 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: the best day of my life. And then her like 195 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 3: walking up the stairs was like the biggest triumph I've 196 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: ever felt. So there's all these amazing like triumphs that 197 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: you experience and the simplest of things, and then working 198 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: her way back out to get on stage. And but 199 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: the crazy thing was real fast was when we were 200 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: at the theater, we had a decision to make there's 201 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 3: a hospital ten minutes away in Washington, DC, and there 202 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: was a hospital thirty five minutes away. Obviously we're like, 203 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: let's go to the closest hospital because this is bad. 204 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: She's something's not good. And her eyes were dilated, one 205 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: was was huge, one was pinpoint. So it was either 206 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: a stroke or something brain related. So we in that 207 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: moment we decided to go to the further hospital that 208 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: was more about brain but we didn't know and basically 209 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 3: down the line, about six months later, the doctor told me, 210 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: he said, if you would have went to the other hospital, 211 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: she would have she would have died really, yeah, and 212 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: because they didn't have they didn't have the resources, they 213 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: didn't have the things to do the emergency surgery, and 214 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: by the time they got her somewhere, it would have 215 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: been too late. So it's like, it's like things. It's 216 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: like things like that. 217 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: You're was like, was it was it an aneurysm? 218 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: No, we actually we don't know exactly what happened, really, 219 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: but we think we do. At the beginning of that show, 220 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 3: we actually hit heads really hard, but we've hit hard, 221 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 3: we've hit heads hard before. There's nothing out of the ordinary, 222 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: but we but our bells were wrong, yeah, and we 223 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: both were kind of looking at each other. But we 224 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: think that's what it was because that's the kind of 225 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: you know, the human toomea was is an impact. It 226 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: wasn't like so luckily in a way. Luckily it was 227 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: that because we know what happened and it's not going 228 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 3: to happen again all of a sudden. 229 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Wow, what an experience, man, what an experience. You know. 230 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it's so interesting going back to what you said, 231 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: which is, you know, usually you know, the person who 232 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: goes through that situation and has to sort of relearn 233 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: to walk or those small victories that you're talking about, 234 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: and how life becomes clear and perspective starts to sort 235 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: of show itself in a beautiful way. It's usually attributed 236 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: to the person who had happened to but we don't 237 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: really hear about sort of the loved ones, you know, 238 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: and how you yourself had that moment as well, meaning 239 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: your perspective changed, things shifted for you. You know, life 240 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: was sort of like you said, the slate was white, 241 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: was wiped clean, and and it was like, wow, it's 242 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: it's these small things now that matter. 243 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it was you know. She she 244 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: talked about this because she basically was on stage. She blinked, 245 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: and then she woke to the hospital like what happened 246 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: and missing half her skull and head shaved and you know, 247 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: face swelled up, was unrecognizable and seventy staples in her 248 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 3: head and and so she missed. She essentially missed like 249 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: this the scary part if you will, you know, And 250 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: so she actually we actually, by the way, we actually 251 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: filmed the documentary about this. He did, and we just 252 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: actually submitted it to Sundance like three days ago. 253 00:12:59,559 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: Amazing. 254 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 3: But a good friend of mine, his name is Jason Berg, 255 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: you know, he's like amazing director, does documentaries, and he 256 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: when we started to go to dance again, he's like, hey, Cannect, 257 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: come film this the process because for her dancing again. 258 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: And so anyway, if we ended up doing it, we 259 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: went back on tour. She got back out on stage. 260 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: It was this beautiful, like triumphant moment. It was really beautiful. 261 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: And but but she really, honestly like the way she 262 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: moved to this whole thing was unbelievable. Man, she could 263 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: a smile on her face. There was no like poor me, 264 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: It was just this is my new reality, this is 265 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 3: what it is. And she was really strong for us, you. 266 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: Know, yeah crazy. So how long was it before she 267 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: re cut before like an incident, and then recovery and 268 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: she's dancing again. 269 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 3: Well that was the miraculous part because the doctor was like, 270 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: we're it's going to take four or five months to 271 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: just get the implant in because your brain is so 272 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 3: swelled up. They had to leave the skull off. Yeah 273 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: for a while. Well he said it. He said it 274 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: was gonna be for a while. Yeah, And she literally 275 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: looked at him and she's like, I'm gonna do it 276 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: two weeks. He's like, uh, huh, okay, you know three 277 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 3: months at least, dude, two weeks to the day we 278 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: took the helmet off and he gasped. He went He 279 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: was like looking at her like confused, like wait what 280 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: because obviously the skull concaves and she's got this massive 281 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: crater in her head, you know, now the brain's come down. 282 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: And he goes, oh my god, I can't believe this. 283 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: And he said, I said, well, what do you think. 284 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: Can we operate you know, tomorrow? He goes, no, it's like, 285 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: can we operate today? Joe goes, how about tomorrow? 286 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: I was like, oh shoot, So wow. 287 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: From the incident to her back on stage was four months. 288 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. 289 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty extraordinary. And by the way, going 290 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: back to being. 291 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: A warrior, yeah yeah, I was. I was like, yeah, yeah, 292 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: she's got like a full like NFL helmet on and pads, 293 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: like she's like, I don't want to wear this, and like, 294 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't care if you're wearing this Eagles helmet. 295 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: But by the way, that that's also the problem though, 296 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: is because if you're apprehensive and if you're you're focusing 297 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: on what's going to go wrong, you're it's gonna go 298 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: wrong because where you focus goes your energy flows, and 299 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: like you're focus on the wrong things. And I was like, 300 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: she told me that, she goes, Babe, you have to 301 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: you have to come, you have to like trust me. 302 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, okay, okay, yeah yeah, wow yeah. 303 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: Crazy dude, crazy, crazy, crazy, but amazing. You know really, 304 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: I mean to have gone through something like that, I mean, 305 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: even just as far as just a relationship goes, and 306 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: the depth where you think you think you're you think 307 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: you're deep, and then you just you can dig even 308 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: deeper with something like that. 309 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: It's just yeah, no, man, it was. It was. It 310 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 3: was a w We were able to watch this documentary 311 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: last week at Uta, this slim screening room, and it 312 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: was like it was it was really beautiful. You know, 313 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: it was really cool to watch just to sit back 314 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: and be like, whoa that was that actually happened? And 315 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: then the thing now about it our our child, you know, 316 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: on on its way and thinking like wow, they get 317 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: to see this moment in mom and dad's life, you know. 318 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: M Yeah, it's pretty cool. So where'd you grow up again? Utah? 319 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: You grew up in Utah, Utah man, Yeah, and you 320 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: had multiple siblings, fourth sisters grew up in Utah only boy, 321 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: you know, where'd you Where were you in the pecking order? 322 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: Three older sisters? Myself and then Julianne. Yeah, okay, yeah, 323 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: it was cool surrounded by women, completely surrounded by women. Honestly, 324 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: like I found as I got older, I was like, 325 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: I find it really hard to talk to guys, Like 326 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: it's so much easier to like, I don't know why, 327 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: I think growing up, I was like, oh talking to Yeah, 328 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: I talked to a guy. I'm like, how did I 329 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: do this? 330 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, that's funny, you know, I wonder how 331 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: do you think that actually sort of affected you? You know, 332 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: I mean, you grew up with a bunch of sisters. 333 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: Like for a while, I just had Mom and Kate 334 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: because Dad was out of the picture and Kurt wasn't 335 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: there yet. So there's a lot of feminine energy sort 336 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 2: of in my early life, and I, you know, I 337 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: can sort of attribute some of my personality to that 338 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: and just the way that I my man. I don't know, 339 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: maybe some sensitivities, maybe just some empathy. I don't know what, 340 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: but I wonder if you can recognize any part of 341 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 2: you that's like, oh well, this is just because I 342 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: grew up around eight hundred chicks. 343 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think for me and later as I 344 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: got you know, older, actually, you know, I realized as 345 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: you start to learn about certain like you know, feminine 346 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 3: energy and mathe energy and all these different types of 347 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 3: things modalities and stuff, I realized that I definitely lived 348 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 3: in my I actually lived more in my feminine energy, 349 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 3: if you will, which I think served me really well, 350 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: and in certain forms of you know, art and you know, 351 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 3: dance and creativity. And however, it's funny, but with dancing dancing, 352 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: actually I feel I was the way I like stepped 353 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: into my maskuline energy, the way I felt super connected 354 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: to my body. Like it's like you know, if you 355 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: go play in sports or something like that, you just 356 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: feel like you just connected to something. But as I 357 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: got older, I was like, oh, interesting, like and I 358 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: generally notice it until this guy came into my life. 359 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: It was my sister's husband, and he just was like 360 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 3: a dude. He was just a dude because I was 361 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: always around like artists and like creatives, and he was 362 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: like fish lift weights, and it was there was something 363 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 3: like just like refreshing about like, oh, dang, I think 364 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: I've like I need to like balance this out a 365 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: little bit and just do some like just stuff that 366 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: isn't like in the world of like creating an art 367 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 3: or I just need to like do some just just 368 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 3: some stuff that just feels disconnected to that to get 369 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 3: back into that masculine energy a little bit more and 370 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: then to just some it's more balanced. 371 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: What did you do did you actually seek out like 372 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: masculine endeavors. 373 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's not like it's like it's not 374 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 3: like binary. It's like it's like this is masculine this side. 375 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 3: But but it did I did feel a sense of like, 376 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, it's just like to do 377 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: things that like just felt more grounded. I suppose because 378 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 3: I can get really like, you know, up here and 379 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 3: you know, like in this creative space constantly, and it's 380 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: like to turn it off. I gotta do something that's 381 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 3: just like uh that you know. 382 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that's interesting. No, I know, 383 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: I know what you mean. You know, it's just sort 384 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: of rooting yourself a little bit more in. It's almost 385 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: as quiet as your mind sometimes too, you know. 386 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 387 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: And are you a nature dude? 388 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: Totally totally are Yeah. Yeah, I love the outdoors, I 389 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 3: mean growing up in Utah. 390 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I figured. 391 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love I love mountains, and that's that's the 392 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: thing that really like keeps me still. And then I 393 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: lived in London for ten years, so you did. It's 394 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: like city city kid. I went to school there and 395 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: then I went back to Utah. Was like, oh shit, 396 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: Utah is fricken gorgeous. 397 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 398 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 3: I didn't know why. I didn't realize where I was 399 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 3: growing up. This is amazing, you know. 400 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: And what were you doing living in London. 401 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: Twelve years old to twenty two? 402 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 2: Just were you dancing? 403 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 3: Yeah? I moved in with my coaches a dance coach did, yeah, 404 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: and moved out there by myself. 405 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: At the age of ten. 406 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: You were by yourself like twelve, Yeah, and Julianne was nine. 407 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: She went out to like at nineteen years old. And 408 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: then but we moved in with the family. Mark Ballas 409 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: was on Dancing Stars as well. He was We moved 410 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: in with him and his family, his mom and dad. 411 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: How does that work? Man? Like, you're so young, I 412 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: mean your parents, how do you? Yeah, how do you 413 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: do that? Because they have to raise o their children 414 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: as well? Right? 415 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it was such a it was such 416 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: a unique time because my my parents were right getting 417 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 3: a divorce right in that moment, and so that the 418 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: house kind of was like this, like it just kind 419 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 3: of started to disjoint a little bit. 420 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're. 421 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: Kind of floating around a little bit. And also this 422 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: opportunity came and then all of a sudden, we had 423 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: like school and we had goals, we had competitions, we 424 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: had lessons. We had this like sort of like regiment 425 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 3: and like we want to become a champion. So that 426 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 3: consistency and that, I don't know, it just it just 427 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 3: helped us as the young kids, you know. So that's 428 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: where we really crafted and we re formed that like 429 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: dancing core for so many years and then and honestly, 430 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: I thank my mom and dad because that was that 431 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 3: was hard. It was hard to let us go. It 432 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: was only supposed to be like a few months, and 433 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: then I ended We ended up. And then they're like, 434 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 3: all right, time to come home. 435 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: And I was like, no, oh really, yeah, You're like 436 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: now we're staying. I'm staying. 437 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like I'm about to. I had this 438 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 3: a competition come up, I got a train, I gotta 439 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: be here and do this. And for ten years it 440 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: was like this fight. Just I wanted to stay and 441 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 3: they wanted me to come home because like can I 442 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: raise you? You're my child, you know. And now now 443 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 3: when I see Likenis and nephews, I was like, I 444 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: was that young. I was twelve years old. 445 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, shit, my daughter's twelve. And I mean I can't 446 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: even imagine. I mean I would that would be I 447 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: would be crushed. 448 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so and so I actually have a lot 449 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: of like later in life, I just have a lot 450 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 3: of like empathy and appreciation for the sacrifice that you know, 451 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: they both had and yeah, you know to allow that, 452 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 3: you know, essentially because it was a big sacrifice. 453 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 454 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 2: No, my daughter's obsessed with dance. You know, it's their 455 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: first their first year. She's on the team dance team 456 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: at her at her school, and so she's dancing like 457 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: six days a week, you know, two or three of 458 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: the days like three hours. You know. It's all different 459 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 2: kinds of dances, lyrical to jazz, to hip hop, the 460 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: whole thing. And so she'll start competing in November. But 461 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: she's just obsessed. And she's so beautiful, her body so beautiful, 462 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: she's so long, and it's just like, I mean, it's 463 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: for me. The pride that you have is just unbelievable. 464 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: And to watch her and how graceful and amazing she 465 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: is and. 466 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 3: I love that matter. But by the way, it was 467 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: so great about dance, was so great about dance. And 468 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: I'll say this again, a class, if I'm teaching a class, 469 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 3: and like it doesn't matter if like you know, there'll 470 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: be some people they'll be you know, kids in a class, 471 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: and some this is like what they want to do, 472 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 3: this is a career and that they'll take that path. 473 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: And some this will be a chapter in the life 474 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 3: and they'll have a lot of different things, but it's 475 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: never ever, ever, ever wasted because the discipline, the awareness, 476 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 3: all these things that you learn, you will take with 477 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: you for the rest of your life, no matter what. 478 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 3: So I always encourage. 479 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 2: You know, Oh yeah, you know what I love most too. 480 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: I love I love how I love how strict these 481 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: teachers are. Yeah, it's like the only place now because 482 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 2: I think we're just being coddled to death, you know, 483 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: just generally sure, But it's the only place now where 484 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: like that discipline you can stern. It's like, you know, 485 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: Rieo's in the car doing her hair with the hairsprakes. 486 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: It's ballet, and if hair's out of place, they get 487 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: mad at you. I mean, you know, not overly crazy, 488 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: but I'm saying there's a discipline there. It's like, get 489 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: your shit together. You know, girls, this isn't working You're 490 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: not practicing enough. It's not working out. You have to 491 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: be better. 492 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's great, man. I think having that guidance. 493 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: And like you said, I love what you said too, 494 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: because it is true. We're sort of in this sort 495 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 3: of you know, the sort of like interesting phase or 496 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: balance of like Okay, what's too hard, what's too strict 497 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: mm hmm, but what's not strict enough, Like it's like 498 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: find that right balance. But I think that it is 499 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: important to have that sort of standard and those like 500 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: sort of like perimeters to work with them. This couldn't 501 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: find because I feel like, you know, if it just 502 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 3: becomes I'm all about encouraging, I'm all about like sure 503 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: but of course, but that but that, But I look 504 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: back at my teaching and my time, I'm like, it 505 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: was the times when I was like taken to the 506 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 3: corner being like, hey, you better and told off. That's 507 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: that's when I was like, oh and I figured it out, 508 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: you know. 509 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 2: Of course. But by the way, its also because you're 510 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: that good, like you're you're too good to just wait 511 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: to just fuck off essentially, you know. 512 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's awesome. I love that, man, I love yeah. 513 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. It's fun. It's fun for me too. 514 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: It's just my only kid who who's actually regimented in 515 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: some sort of athletics into a sport. You know. My 516 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: boys are they down they ski, they downhill, mountain bike, 517 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 2: they're on dirt bikes, you know, motorcycles, this, this, and that. 518 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: They're heavily into golf now but it's all individual stuff, right. 519 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: They didn't want to play team. You know, there was 520 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 2: no competition. So she's my she's my first and only 521 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: one now that is competing, and you know she has 522 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: that sort of fire when you when. 523 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 3: You say competing. Is it a part of the school 524 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: team competition? 525 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: No, school, it's a studio. Yeah. 526 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 3: Oh so did you go to a convention? 527 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 2: Yes, she went to a convention last weekend. She was 528 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: in at a convention. 529 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 3: Car got you got you cool? Cool? 530 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 2: All right? 531 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: Awesome. No. The reason why I say that because I'm 532 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: literally about to launch a convention competition you are in December. Yeah, 533 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: it's called Ovation. 534 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 2: Oh that's cool. 535 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's sort of the first it's gonna be 536 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 3: like a sort of a fusion convention competition with like 537 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: contemporary Yeah, Ballerman, Latin. 538 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: Where are you doing it? 539 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 3: We're doing seven cities the first year. First ones in 540 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 3: Chicago in December. Yeah, and then we'll do like you know, 541 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: Miami and New York, and then of course Anaheim, Plifornia, 542 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: and then San Diego. 543 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: That's where Rio is an Anaheim for this car thing. 544 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, dude, this isn't you guys? Do you guys 545 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 3: should come down. It's it's really it's giving me really 546 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: really really Oh yeah, Tolly Favia. You know Robbie Blue 547 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: who's done like the commercial. 548 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 549 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 3: He just won an Emmy and in a VMA he's 550 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: he's one of the teachers as well. 551 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, dude, sick. 552 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: Pretty sick. 553 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh fun? Yeah, man, so great dude, yeah, will 554 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: I will for sure. So so what how how do 555 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: you get off on dancing? You know what I mean? 556 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: What is it? What is the thing? You know? I 557 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: mean I kind of understand because you know, singing, moving 558 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 2: your body. I mean there's something that is special about that. 559 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 2: You know, there's something that's exhilarating about it. But like what, 560 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: how does it still give you a boner? You know, 561 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: like what is that thing where you're just like, God, 562 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: damn it, I just love it so much. 563 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you, man, it's 564 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: it's an I have an interesting relationship with dance now 565 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: in a way because you know, here's the thing as 566 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 3: it's evolving, it's evolving. Yeah, because when I competed as 567 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 3: a dancer, I loved it, but it was very much 568 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: like I was training. And but I will say this. 569 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: I will say this as like the thing that I 570 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: love most about it is when I'm actually dancing performing 571 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 3: like a go on torn I'm dancing. Yeah, I truly 572 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 3: feel like the most It sounds cheesy, like connected, I 573 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 3: feel connected to myself because I do have a busy 574 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: ass brain in my brain. But when I'm just dancing 575 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: and the music and the music sinks up and your 576 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: body sync up together and they're doing this, you just 577 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: like you start sounds silly, but like I just like 578 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: start like like things hard and strong, and then I'm 579 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: I'm meaning to shape myself. The bass, you feel the 580 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: drums hit it, that all of that, It just makes 581 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: you feel super just like here and just present and. 582 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm feeling it right now. When you're explaining that, yeah damn, 583 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I wish I could feel that way. 584 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: No, that's the thing. But on the flip side of that, though, 585 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: we to do the creation process can be fucking torture. 586 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: Like you're just like you're like, oh my god, I 587 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: have no ideas and what is this and this isn't 588 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: good enough? And oh my, you know, there's this expectation, 589 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: like you know, you've won four Emmys and people are 590 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 3: looking at you like, come on, man, like you're supposed 591 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: to be good. Ah, you know, those spirits have to 592 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: creep in, and I start to get a little bit 593 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: my head about things and sometimes that sort of over 594 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: analysis equals paralys type of thing, you know. But but 595 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: so it's an interesting relationship where when I'm doing it 596 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 3: m hm, right, got it, but creating it can sometimes be. 597 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: Like yeah, well it's so I mean when you have 598 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: a partner too, there it is so intimate, especially depending 599 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: on what kind of dances you're doing, you know what 600 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: I mean. And you know, it's a it's an interesting 601 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: it's an interesting gig. I know, you're married and all 602 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: this stuff, but like you're marere to do a dancer. 603 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: I mean, when you were connected like that with someone 604 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: and you're flying and you're in sync, there's something so 605 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: like sexy and romantic and about it all, you know, 606 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: And then but you have to kind of separate yourself 607 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: from all that ship I well. 608 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: There is and there isn't because like when you dance 609 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: and when you've grown up dancing and do it, you 610 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 3: can I mean you might watch it and be like 611 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, yeah, energy between them. But then I 612 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: might be like, oh, there's no, there's no energy there. 613 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 3: That was just that's just that's that's just that, that's 614 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 3: just the movement, the dancing. It's like a very definitely 615 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: separate the two. 616 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: Especially when you're dancing. You dance with your sister too, right, 617 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: I mean, oh yeah, yeah, you know, so that's like 618 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: what's up with that? And that's a whole other thing, 619 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: you know, and way, but that's that's the thing. 620 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: That's the thing is like for me, you know, from 621 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 3: the outside looking in, when you watch me dancing, like 622 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: it feels really intimate in that kind of way, mm hmm. 623 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 3: But for us as dances, it's really not. It's just 624 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: like you're you're we're like focused on the mechanics and 625 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: we're focusing on like stretching, and like, you know, there's 626 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: so many, so many things going on in our brain 627 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: about certain things that we're not even thinking about, like 628 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: you know, the you know what I mean, there's too 629 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 3: much going on in our brains. But yeah, man, it's 630 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: it's uh, it's but on Dancing with the Stars, I 631 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: will say, you know, you get somebody coming out coming 632 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: in there, you know, and all of a sudden, they're 633 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: like learning from you. 634 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: And of course, I mean, like the think how many 635 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: relationships there's been from Dancing with the Stars, only that's 636 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: what those are the ones that we've heard. I mean, 637 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I'm sure you have all kinds 638 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: of dirt about the ship that no one knows about 639 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: that goes on, that went on for the billions of 640 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: seasons of Dancing with the Stars. 641 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, my favorite is there's this whole 642 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 3: wave of new you know, it's the numb Umber one 643 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: show on TV, which is insane. 644 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: It's crazy, it will not stop. 645 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: It's insane. It's like this whole new life, the whole 646 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: new fan base and this holyw fan base. They've only 647 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 3: been watching it for like two years, and there's eighteen 648 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: years of this lore, if you will, that they like 649 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 3: they're trying to like re learn and hear about. And 650 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, the stuff you'll hear about is maybe 651 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: ten percent of what actually went on. 652 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh my god. 653 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: It's crazy, man, it's crazy. 654 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: It's crazy. You're right, though, You're right, because you have 655 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: two professionals together. They've been doing it all their lives. 656 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: They understand the game, they understand the dance, so to speak. 657 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: When you have these sort of celebrities or these Dancing 658 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: with the Star's contestants coming in who are now you know, 659 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: connected like that and feeling things and moving their body 660 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: with someone as they've never moved it before. Yeah, there's 661 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: something that is intoxicating about that. There's no doubt. 662 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's it's interesting. And listen, it doesn't always like 663 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: it doesn't always like turn into something or anything now, right, 664 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 3: but but you know it is. It's a unique experience 665 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: to feel guided in something and like you're like, oh, 666 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 3: I'm at your mercy kind of thing, and it's it's 667 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: in a good way, you know what I mean. In 668 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: a way it's like, oh, I get to actually be 669 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: taught something and it immersed in something every day, seven 670 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: days a week, six hours a day. Like when was 671 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 3: the last thing you ever got to do that? 672 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 673 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: Like never, never. It's such a unique experience. And I 674 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: think that I think who I said this to. I 675 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: said this one of the contestants the other day because 676 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 3: they were saying like, oh, yeah, I'm really tired about 677 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: them trying to pins again against each other, and unless 678 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: I said, well, listen, you have to save this moment 679 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: because one it's gonna be over like that. And two, 680 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: you're never going to experience them like this ever. Again, 681 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: It's just just won't. You'll have other amazing opportunities and 682 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 3: other amazing experiences, but you will never like have this 683 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: sort of intense focus on something for this many hours 684 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: a day, for seven days a week, and then show 685 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: it something new every week in front of millions of people. 686 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 3: It's such a it's such a unique thing that you 687 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: just need a savor it. Man. 688 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: You need to say, oh, yeah, they asked I think 689 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: a few years back. I think I was We're doing 690 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: a show for ABC. They asked me to do it, 691 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: and I was too scared. I'm like, I can't. That's 692 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: too scary for me. Dude, Like I can't go dance 693 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: in front of people. Yet I'm not right scary. 694 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: I have Anybody's out there, like, whoever is crazy enough 695 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 3: to get to put themselves through this is like, yeah, 696 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: it's pretty crazy. 697 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: Man. How is it being a judge? You know? And 698 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 2: what kind of a judge are you? Can you give 699 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: it to him? Can you be like? 700 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I'm gonna be I'm be 701 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 3: honest with you. I'm being honest with you I again, 702 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: because I've been in that position, you know, like I 703 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 3: really like I have a lot of respect and a 704 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: lot of like empathy and like hey, hey, like you're 705 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: doing good. You got there. And which is interesting because 706 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 3: of course, Lenn Goodman, who was you know, our head 707 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 3: judged for so many years. Listen, people would not have 708 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: survived the last few years. I mean we look back 709 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 3: at some of the comments and the things that they 710 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: had said. Ye were unbelievable and they were for me, 711 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: they were fantastic because it was just like shocking. Now 712 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: I will say this, it's interesting being a judge because 713 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 3: you know, I'll try to be I try to be encouraging. 714 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: I try to be you know, supportive, and also give 715 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 3: some practical notes that they can actually work on the 716 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: next week. That's what that's what I would want to hear. 717 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 3: Give me some clarity, like what do I need to 718 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: work on? You know. I try to give those notes 719 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 3: in fifteen seconds, which is the partest part, which sometimes 720 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 3: nothing comes out. I was just like, yeah, great job, 721 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 3: you know. But it's fun though, because being a judge 722 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 3: is not a popular position to be because you can 723 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 3: say something to somebody and then one person says, oh 724 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: my gosh, you're so mean. I hate you. Oh gosh, 725 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 3: I hate you. Yeah, the same comment below that will 726 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: be like you're too soft and like you're too nice, 727 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 3: like so you're just like you. 728 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: Can't waitin dude, no, you can't win, and you just 729 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 2: be you. That's it. That's it. 730 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: By the way, you know, I've had some producers say like, hey, 731 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 3: can you, like, you know, get in a little bit more, 732 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: And I'm like, guys, I'm gonna be honest with you. 733 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be me because if I if I try 734 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: to be something I'm not, first of all, people are 735 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 3: gonna smell it my million, and it's gonna look it's 736 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 3: gonna look really like tacky. Yeah. 737 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 2: No, it's true. Yeah. You know if all of a 738 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: sudden you're like that was shit, Like wait a minute, 739 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 2: what Yeah, because they always always want, you know, the 740 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 2: I all of judges to have their you want want 741 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: the ones like direct and honest, then the ones that's 742 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: sort of soft and sweet, you know. 743 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to I try to be like practical. Yeah, 744 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: that's my that's my angle, if you will. 745 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then extra is this is this a new 746 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 2: This is a new gig sort of right. 747 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 3: You're three weeks in, three weeks in, yeah, yeah, three 748 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 3: weeks in. 749 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 2: It's this is a great gig, though, you. 750 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 3: Know what it's It's crazy because when they first came 751 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 3: to me about it, I was like, I was like what. 752 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 753 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: I was like, nah, I don't seem doing that. And 754 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 3: then I was like thinking about it. I was first 755 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 3: I was thinking about having a baby, and I was like, okay, hey, 756 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 3: it's twenty minutes away. Yeah, okay, I'll be done at 757 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 3: twelve or one o'clock. I was like, yep, okay, that's 758 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 3: kind of fun. And and then of course I'm also 759 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 3: just a fan. I'm like a huge fan of movies. 760 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 3: I love music, I love I love you know, I'm 761 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 3: in then saying business, I love it. And so being 762 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 3: able to interview certain people and get to communicate with 763 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 3: them and talk with them, and it is really cool. 764 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 3: But I so much respect already three weeks in for 765 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 3: you know, Terry Seymour, who I've known for twenty years, 766 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 3: you know, and interviewing people and talking with them, it's 767 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 3: like such a skill. So I'm excited about exercising this 768 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: different muscle my first week as far as the interviews go. 769 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 3: My first week was like Margaret Robbie the Rock and Blunt, 770 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 3: like Jessica Chef Stay, we saw the Spoonship. I was like, 771 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 3: I was like, shit, guys in the first week, Oh no, 772 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 3: that's hard. It was great though, because the one they 773 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 3: were all really gracious, is really kind and wonderful. But 774 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 3: I definitely felt like, you know, I learned a lot 775 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 3: of different moment you know things in there. But there's 776 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: a lot of the best moments that came out of those. 777 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 3: But the moments that I like, there were genuine questions 778 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 3: that I actually that I wanted to ask. 779 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: That wasn't like, you know, from the car or you know. 780 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was like a good indicator. Was like, okay, cool, 781 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 3: Like I need to just like trust my instincts in 782 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 3: those ways. But I will say that the biggest learning 783 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 3: curve is in the vos, right, bro, I'm in there 784 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 3: and I'm like, first of all, I'm start reading it 785 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 3: and you know, his name is Caesar. He's in there. 786 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 3: He's like, hey, try like he's like a little more 787 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 3: energy here, like more. 788 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: Energy coming up with dad. 789 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 3: And I was like, are you sure I sound like 790 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 3: a I saw like a Muppet or something. 791 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 792 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 3: But then then you see it in context Sack and 793 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 3: the clips, and I was like, wow, I'm actually not 794 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 3: doing enough. Yeah. So then I'm in there now the 795 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: setup was like sitting down doing it at the videos. 796 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 3: Now I'm standing up. I have a thing up here, 797 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm like, we got I'm like, I'm 798 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 3: like dancing in there like a crazy person. But it's wild, man, 799 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 3: that's funny. 800 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 2: No, it's so true. It's so so true, dude. 801 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 3: It sounds crazy, but it is funny. There's a lot 802 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 3: of moments in there where like it goes something something 803 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 3: in Oliver Hudson and then that goes up and I 804 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 3: just I just I'm literally feel like Ron Burgundy and 805 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, is that I mean about that? 806 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 3: They like trust us? And then it goes into the clip. 807 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that sounds correct. So my grandpa was 808 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 3: a radio DJ in Spokane, Washington and uh one of 809 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 3: the few guys who actually got Elvis to come up 810 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 3: with him and did a radio base is a picture 811 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 3: of him. So when I was in there, I was 812 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 3: kind of like I was kind of like channeling my 813 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 3: grandpa a little bit, like just like kind of that 814 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 3: radio voice, you know, and yeah, it was kind of 815 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 3: a cool, cool little moment. But that's that's been a 816 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 3: big learning curve. Yeah. 817 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 2: Did you just get a call like, hey, Derek, like 818 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 2: any interest in and do an extra? 819 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, simple, it was just a cold call. 820 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 3: And I was like, I was like, I was like, 821 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 3: I don't think so. And then I went and met 822 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 3: with them and then we just were talking. I was like, yeah, 823 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 3: that could be kind of fun, okay, all right, and 824 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 3: then and then it was literally like a cool I 825 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 3: said yes. And then I think like three four days 826 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 3: later like cool, You're going in with Margot, Robbie and 827 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 3: Colin Fare. 828 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 2: I was like wow. I was like, shit, how do 829 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 2: you what's the prep on something like that? You know? 830 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 2: Is it just you get the questions. It's it's pretty 831 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: it's pretty basic. 832 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 3: You know obviously the questions about the film, yeah, you know, 833 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: and all that stuff. 834 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 2: Of course, and it's a proper sit down, right, it's 835 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,919 Speaker 2: like that sit down. 836 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 3: Oh dude, that's the other part of it, is the 837 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 3: press junket thing. Yeah, so oh yeah, I don't know 838 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 3: about that stuff. So I go, you know, you go 839 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 3: to the Four Seasons, you go in there and you 840 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 3: check in and and first of all, you sit down 841 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 3: in a dark hallway and like in a in a 842 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 3: row on these chairs and they're all sitting there. I'm like, guys, 843 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 3: and you were just going one by one, waiting your 844 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 3: turn and going for eight minutes and then like I mean, 845 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 3: and they just jesus. It was dude, I feel like 846 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 3: a little kid going up the first day of school. 847 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 3: I was like this, this is terrifying. 848 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, especially four days after. Yeah, I'll do this gig. 849 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 2: Here's Margot, Robbie and Colin for like, all right, go ahead. 850 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah I go and then like, yeah, be better. And 851 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 3: I already said that. I think I said to him 852 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 3: was like, hey, by the way, this is my first interview. 853 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 3: They're like shut up, They're like what like So anyways, 854 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 3: it was it was cool, man, But I learned. I've 855 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 3: learned a lot. It's been really neat and uh, like 856 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 3: I said before, I've been really fortunate because it's kind 857 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 3: of nice too, is that some of these some of 858 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 3: these people have they know they know me kind of 859 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 3: in some way or indirectly, and some someone like. 860 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 2: We're channing exactly. 861 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, like oh bro, we were dancing at that Halloween 862 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 3: party years ago. Like right, so it kind of is 863 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 3: nice to break the ice a little bit. 864 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 2: And well, I think that's why you're such a great hire, 865 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 2: you know, I mean for a million different reasons. But yes, 866 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 2: you have relationships. You've been in Hollywood long enough now 867 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 2: you have relationships with a lot of these people. So 868 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 2: it's not just some sort of interviewer talking head where 869 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 2: it's it's like, oh yeah, dude, like what's up. I mean, 870 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: there's a comfortability that happens when being interviewed by someone 871 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 2: who you you know, yeah, yeah, no. 872 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,720 Speaker 3: For sure, for sure. Man. It's uh, it's so it's 873 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 3: been cool. It's been cool. But again, it's like a 874 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 3: lot of I will say this. It's funny that there's 875 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 3: some moments when I'm talking about some things and I'm like, 876 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 3: oh no, I don't want to talk about that. 877 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: I know, but you're like it's okay, you know whatever. 878 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh i'd be I think i'd be fired because 879 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 2: I'd go down a weird rabbit hole, you know what 880 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 2: i mean. I'd go way off the questions, be like 881 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 2: wait a minute, you just said this, and then all 882 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 2: of a sudden we're off on a different tangent. 883 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 3: Well, by the way too. Even just like yesterday we were like, 884 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 3: you know, Channing Channing Tatium and Kristen Dunn's for Ruthman, 885 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 3: and you know, we're talking and I have, you know, 886 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 3: like eight questions prepared, all these things and characters and 887 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 3: and we just talked about parent advice basically because you 888 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 3: have eight minutes, and you're, oh, that's it. Oh my gosh, 889 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 3: I asked one question. 890 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 2: Well, dude, it sounds like you've been amazing. Congratulations on 891 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 2: the baby coming and all of your successes, and it's 892 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 2: been great to talk to you. And thank you for 893 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 2: taking the time. 894 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 3: Man, I know your course, brother, I appreciate you. Man, 895 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Man. 896 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, take it easy, man, you. 897 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 3: See your brother, take care man, all right later. 898 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 2: What a handsome dude, huh. Just hair's perfect, beard's perfect, 899 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 2: baby blues shining through, just clean cut, bang bang. I 900 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 2: got ten years on him, I know. But look at me, 901 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 2: Look at me, you know, I you know, I look 902 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 2: like I don't know what I look like. I look 903 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 2: like a man that was just found in a dumpster, 904 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 2: you know, who was just sort of taking off the 905 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: street giving headphones in a mic You know what, though 906 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: I am handsome in my own way, do you hear that, Derek, 907 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,720 Speaker 2: I'm handsome in my own way. Just because you're glowing 908 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 2: and I'm Matt doesn't mean that you're better than me, 909 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 2: all right, ending bye a