WEBVTT - Vagabon Disobeys Bridger

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I invited you. Hear, I thought, I made myself

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly clear. When you're a guess to my home, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guess,

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<v Speaker 1>your presences presence enough. I already had too much stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you dare to surbey?

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<v Speaker 2>Mean?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm alone in my kitchen. I need to tell you something.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm recording a little special thing to tell you that

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<v Speaker 3>we will be having a second live show. The first

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<v Speaker 3>one in LA went beautifully, so wonderfully, better than I

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<v Speaker 3>could have possibly imagined. So I thought, why not do

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<v Speaker 3>a second live show, But let's do this one in

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<v Speaker 3>New York. We're doing one in New York. New York

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<v Speaker 3>is home to the Circuit City in Union Square that

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<v Speaker 3>closed in two thousand and nine. But I believe the

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<v Speaker 3>city has other things to offer. And I was at

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<v Speaker 3>that liquidation sale. You were, You know, you could get CDs, DVDs,

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<v Speaker 3>Blu rays for the markdowns were ridiculous. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>memorable sale that you know that Circuit City is no

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<v Speaker 3>longer there. They closed down nationally, so don't try to

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<v Speaker 3>go to any circuit City. But what we really need

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about here is the live show. It's at

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<v Speaker 3>the Bellhouse the Bellhouse on October thirteenth at seven thirty pm.

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<v Speaker 3>Now this takes place in Brooklyn, New York. So that's exciting,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's going to be the fall, and it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be I mean, is there a better time to

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<v Speaker 3>be in New York. Absolutely not. This is the prime

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<v Speaker 3>time to be in New York. So whether you're already

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<v Speaker 3>living there or you're looking for a little chance to

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<v Speaker 3>go on a trip, this is the time to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you should probably buy a ticket very soon. Because

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<v Speaker 3>the LA tickets went quickly, they sold out, and then

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<v Speaker 3>people were freaking out about not having a ticket. Well

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<v Speaker 3>that's not my fault. You know, there are only so

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<v Speaker 3>many seats in a house, and there are fire codes,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera. You know, they a lot a certain amount

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<v Speaker 3>of tickets to audience members. This is how ticket sales work.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm explaining ticket sales to you. You've got to buy

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<v Speaker 3>a ticket quickly because New York you're competing not just

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<v Speaker 3>with your city. You've got you know, people pouring in

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<v Speaker 3>from New Jersey, You've got Philly people, people from Washington,

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<v Speaker 3>d c. Are probably already on the train headed towards

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<v Speaker 3>the venue. Boston. I mean that whole mess of the

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<v Speaker 3>East Coast. Everyone is going to be vuying for a ticket,

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<v Speaker 3>so get one quickly, don't lose out. We only have

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<v Speaker 3>one life to live. But basically you have to go

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<v Speaker 3>to the Bell houseeny dot com, the Bellhouse NY dot

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<v Speaker 3>com to get a ticket. Now, let me just refresh everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>That's October thirteenth, seven thirty pm the Bellhouse. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>No Gifts Live the second show. It's gonna be spectacular.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to have an absolute ball. We always have

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<v Speaker 3>a ball. This will be no different. Come join me,

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<v Speaker 3>Come join my wonderful guests, and let's get onto the episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to I said no Gifts, I Bridger Wineger. We're

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<v Speaker 3>in the backyard. I mean, there's just been an earthquake.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just been an enormous earthquake, the biggest one I've

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<v Speaker 3>ever been through. I'm safe. I'm alive. If you're hearing this,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's some news for you. I think we released

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<v Speaker 3>this episode in like two weeks, so if you really cared,

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<v Speaker 3>you would have reached out sooner. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>do your thing. I don't care. I survived, I made

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<v Speaker 3>it through, and thank god I did because I adore

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<v Speaker 3>today's guest. I absolutely thinks she's wonderful. It's vagabond. Welcome

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<v Speaker 3>to I said, no gifts. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>I am doing? Wow, I am shaken up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so thrown as you can tell.

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<v Speaker 4>I am very, very thrown all around.

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<v Speaker 3>We were talking about this right before we began recording.

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<v Speaker 3>But what do you do during an earthquake? I was

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<v Speaker 3>darting around and then I of course looked it up

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<v Speaker 3>after and the earthquake. People don't say anything about darting around.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, wow, you're once up ahead of me for looking

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<v Speaker 5>it up. I just cried it, just started crying immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>But we both survived, so we proved earthquake HQ wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Analise mentioned Onalise's dad is an expert, and apparently you're

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to get on the ground and maybe drag yourself

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<v Speaker 3>under a table or something, some sort of sturdy piece

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<v Speaker 3>of furniture. Okay, gotta remember this, but in the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>oh no, Onalise.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, one more thing.

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<v Speaker 6>It's very important hook your arm around the table leg

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<v Speaker 6>because if it moves. If the table moves, you want.

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<v Speaker 4>To move with it.

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<v Speaker 6>Whole idea is that if something falls down that it

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<v Speaker 6>protects your head. Oh, so you put your armor on

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<v Speaker 6>the leg of the table so that if the table

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<v Speaker 6>moves in the shaking, it's still above you.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't like move somewhere else in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So if I have to rearrange my furniture, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to survive. Forget it.

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<v Speaker 4>Just let me go.

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<v Speaker 3>Just so, is this the biggest one you've experienced?

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<v Speaker 2>It is?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's only my second one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only your second earth question.

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<v Speaker 4>In life, and the biggest one by far.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the first one?

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<v Speaker 5>The first one was July fourth, and I thought it

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<v Speaker 5>was just a huge firework because I grew up not

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<v Speaker 5>anywhere near earthquakes, right, I was confused about what was happening.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was so mild. They just kind of felt

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<v Speaker 5>like you were on drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's one of those small ones happen. You're like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I might just have imagined, or maybe I have vertigo

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<v Speaker 3>or something. Yeah. I hadn't experienced one in a few years,

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<v Speaker 3>but this was the biggest one I think I've ever felt,

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<v Speaker 3>outside of the first one I ever felt was in

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<v Speaker 3>first grade and I was in the shower with my brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, And so that's a very vivid memory of

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<v Speaker 3>me just being naked with my brother in the shower.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom's screaming.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the thing is that when that happens, the first

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<v Speaker 5>thing I want to do is like ask everyone if

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<v Speaker 5>they felt it. It's like I'm suddenly like going through

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<v Speaker 5>my phone like who should I text? Like who's here?

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<v Speaker 5>Who's who felt that? We're just like wait, process which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is well, you just want yeah, what what are we

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get from that? That's not going to help anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. It's just like, well, I just want to

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<v Speaker 3>prove that this was a real thing that's happened.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like to validate your experience.

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<v Speaker 3>What if you heard all knows from everyone?

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<v Speaker 4>Then I would probably commit myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Really start questioning what's happening. Oh yeah, I mean we

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<v Speaker 3>might get an aftershock during this podcast. That's my hope

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<v Speaker 3>for us all to go through this together. So we'll

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<v Speaker 3>grip the under the stable here, right, This feel like

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<v Speaker 3>a sturdy table, Yeah, I feel like and the only

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<v Speaker 3>thing above it, well that could this entire structure could collapse,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, but that feels like it's aluminum or something,

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<v Speaker 3>so I think it would be okay. And it would

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<v Speaker 3>be something to talk about for years to come.

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<v Speaker 4>It's true.

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<v Speaker 3>I love a good story. Yeah, I love a good

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<v Speaker 3>tell a good story. Have you been through any other

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<v Speaker 3>sorts of natural disasters?

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<v Speaker 4>No, okay, I mean does like Hurricane Sandy count Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh then yes, because you live in New York, you've

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<v Speaker 3>experienced hurricanes.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And a tree actually fell on top of my car.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh during Hurricane Sandy. And I was driving like a

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<v Speaker 5>ninety eight Honda, a cord that I saved all my

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<v Speaker 5>money to.

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<v Speaker 4>It was devastating.

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<v Speaker 3>That's horrible. A cord could last one hundred years exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Its life was cut short.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, did the insurance cover anything?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, if if I bought it up

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<v Speaker 5>at a police auction, okay, which is how you get cheap.

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<v Speaker 3>Cars, it is a great time.

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<v Speaker 5>But I didn't have money to fix it. And if

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have money to if I'm buying a car

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<v Speaker 5>to police auction, I probably don't have the best car insurance,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like I have the lowest lowest amount of

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<v Speaker 5>car joins.

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<v Speaker 4>You can have.

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<v Speaker 3>So did you just have it towed away?

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<v Speaker 5>It just kind of sat there. It just sat there

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<v Speaker 5>for long enough for me to save up the money

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<v Speaker 5>to fix.

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<v Speaker 3>The lost fantastic. Are you still driving?

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<v Speaker 4>I am still driving. I drive a minivan.

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<v Speaker 3>To have a car in New York, I know what

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<v Speaker 3>a luxury.

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<v Speaker 5>I've actually never not had a car in New York,

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<v Speaker 5>which I just came back from a month in New York.

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<v Speaker 5>And that experience of just the train as a New Yorker,

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<v Speaker 5>I hate the train.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't like to take it. I would rather not

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<v Speaker 4>go out.

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<v Speaker 3>I I mean, I'm right there with you. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>very bad feel that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially during extreme weather. Yes, just being packed in with

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not saying anything. They were here, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not for me, and I like to I mean

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<v Speaker 3>the number one thing for me is I like to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to listen to music at a loud volume.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and so a car that is the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>space for that. That's my little private listening booth.

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<v Speaker 5>What's your favorite thing to listen to right now? What

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<v Speaker 5>are you rinsing?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's a great question. Do you know what a

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<v Speaker 3>song that I'm just listening to. It's an Australian band

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<v Speaker 3>called pop Filter. Okay, and there's a song called Fragile

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<v Speaker 3>that's got this kind of like and the song the

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<v Speaker 3>title Fragile is a very tough title to say aloud.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds like a terrible song is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not. It's like kind of this rolling bass and drums.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing. It's really really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been listening to that a lot recently. What

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<v Speaker 3>about you?

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<v Speaker 4>Pop filter is a great it's a great band name.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great band name, but also very difficult to google.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're trying to find.

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<v Speaker 4>Music, you just find pop filters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, just equipment.

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<v Speaker 4>What have I been listening to?

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<v Speaker 5>I've been listening to this shoegaze band from Detroit. They

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<v Speaker 5>just I think it's from the nineties, like they just

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<v Speaker 5>got a reissue. I don't think they're very popular in

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<v Speaker 5>their time or got very popular. But their name is

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<v Speaker 5>Majesty Crush.

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<v Speaker 3>Majesty Crush. I haven't heard of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh yeah you. This is amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>And they have a song called brand okay that I've

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<v Speaker 5>been rinsing and it's all about I think him being

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<v Speaker 5>like addicted to beer or something.

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<v Speaker 4>But it has so much emotion right right, It's really good.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is kind of in the my bloody Valentine

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<v Speaker 3>veins less washy. Okay, that makes sense right, it's more meary.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's one of the like the edgy, like harder sounds.

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<v Speaker 3>This sounds good to me. I like a nice just

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<v Speaker 3>my boyfriend frequently says what I like to listen to

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like he's in an MRI. He's getting a catskin.

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<v Speaker 5>Why do I understand exactly what them?

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<v Speaker 3>My music taste kind of fluctuates between that and like music,

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<v Speaker 3>you can roller skate too.

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<v Speaker 5>I love music, you can roller skate too. I like

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<v Speaker 5>making music you can rollers.

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<v Speaker 3>But see and you kind of your music kind of

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<v Speaker 3>fluctuates between all of That's why you're on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>You do kind of everything. I need someone to do music.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's confusing for some I am having a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>People want someone to do the exact same thing for

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<v Speaker 3>their entire career and die.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I'm going to struggle with that. People are very rare.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a hard time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's I have a lot of interests.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you should be able to express their different interests.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly or else what's the fun?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think what's confusing is you express all of them. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>so people are like, they're confused. Yeah, they don't hear like,

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<v Speaker 3>well pick one because you can do all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like, oh, she can only do one thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, well, thank you for saying. I hope that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>What if I was just making some complete psycho now

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<v Speaker 3>I would be really impressed with myself, with my lying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I would be scared of myself at this.

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<v Speaker 4>Point because I believed you.

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<v Speaker 3>You were just playing at the Skirball Center, right, How

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<v Speaker 3>was that?

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<v Speaker 4>That was amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>We haven't played much this year because last year was

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<v Speaker 5>a huge tour, so it's nice to I love playing

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<v Speaker 5>a museum. I love so tasteful, very classy. They put

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<v Speaker 5>you in a conference room, it's air conditioned, you get dinner.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, musicians were treated horribly, of course, so so

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<v Speaker 5>a museum they really know how to.

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<v Speaker 3>Treat it's because they don't know they can treat.

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<v Speaker 4>You like exactly exactly. It's really really good. We want

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<v Speaker 4>to uphold that.

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<v Speaker 5>I was telling I was telling my manager, I would

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<v Speaker 5>like to just do a museum circuit.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great idea, and it feels like enough of

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<v Speaker 3>a gimmick that you could get it off the ground.

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<v Speaker 5>I've played enough that they are singularly like they treat

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<v Speaker 5>musicians like human beings. So so Scarball was really it

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<v Speaker 5>was really it was really fun, like under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm sure it was beautiful. Oh, I would have

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<v Speaker 3>loved to go. I had tonsilidis at the time. What

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<v Speaker 3>last week? I had tonsilidis.

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<v Speaker 4>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Which all started with twenty four hours of thinking of'm

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<v Speaker 3>my f cancer?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh wow? Is that usually your first thought?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what happened? Yeah, it was kind of. I woke

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<v Speaker 3>up in the middle of the night last I guess

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<v Speaker 3>ten days ago or eleven days ago now, and there

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<v Speaker 3>was like it was like, my throat feels a little swollen.

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<v Speaker 3>That's weird. And it was the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's of course like the worst possible thought.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeap.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was a Sunday, so I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I can go to the urgent care. I go to

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<v Speaker 3>the urgent care and the doctor like feels my neck

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<v Speaker 3>and it was just on one side, and she was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is interesting. Maybe we could do some imaging. And

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<v Speaker 3>then she's like, do you have any family history of

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<v Speaker 3>lymphoma or cancer? And immediately like there's tears in my eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure. I'm not sure. She's like, well, we

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<v Speaker 3>should do some blood work. So the next thing, we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing blood work and she's sending me home. Keep in

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<v Speaker 3>mind she never looked in my throat.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, he just went straight to.

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<v Speaker 3>It, and yeah, the absolute worst thing. So for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four hours, I'm like waiting these results. But of course,

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<v Speaker 3>by the time the twenty four hours are up, I

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<v Speaker 3>have a fever and my throat is completely swollen. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, well maybe, yeah, but you think someone

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<v Speaker 3>would want to check the throat before hopping to blood work.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to say what urgent care it was,

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<v Speaker 3>but I will say, if you want to get a

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<v Speaker 3>delicious but expensive breakfast and lost feelus. It's really you'll

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<v Speaker 3>be able to get one very quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>After this, oh exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think I'm ready to soothe the entire concept

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<v Speaker 3>of urgent care.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that it's actually worth anybody's time.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, God bless everyone who works at urgent care,

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<v Speaker 3>but I've had some rough experiences.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you go there in a panic, stay full panic,

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<v Speaker 5>and they don't often help with the anxiety aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, just ramping it up. Yeah, might

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<v Speaker 3>give you some antibiotics. This time they gave me nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh well, when I had COVID for the first time,

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<v Speaker 5>I went to urgent care because I thought I was dying.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course I don't have a history of getting very sick.

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<v Speaker 5>And I couldn't speak, and my voice is all I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course that's not so terrifying. He's like, now my

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<v Speaker 3>career is.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly like, well, great, who am I if I can't speak?

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly have no other skills.

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<v Speaker 5>And I couldn't speak, so I couldn't communicate, and they

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<v Speaker 5>told me I had a throat infection due to the COVID.

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<v Speaker 5>And it was the scariest anxiety I've I've ever had,

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<v Speaker 5>because it's like it's kind of like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 5>know that film where the drummer loses his hearing sound

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<v Speaker 5>of metal? Yes, yes, that is like my biggest fear.

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<v Speaker 5>So the thought that I couldn't sing was just I

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<v Speaker 5>was in shambles for days.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course, though had the worst happened, you would

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<v Speaker 3>have become some sort of inspiration in another.

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<v Speaker 5>Way, exactly Hopefully I should call you every time I'm

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<v Speaker 5>in crisis. I need this restructure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to become like a crisis manager, just

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<v Speaker 3>like but I forced the person to become sort of

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<v Speaker 3>a new inspiration. We don't change their image.

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<v Speaker 4>They inspire if we don't specify what exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're going to overcome and you're going to inspire.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the last time you were sick? Have you

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<v Speaker 3>been sick this year?

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<v Speaker 4>I have not?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, well, actually that's not does food poisoning count, of course? Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>then yes I've been sick.

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<v Speaker 3>Who food poisoned you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the city of Lisbon?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Lisbon?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Lisbon in general? Was it fish? Oysters?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? I mean oysters. You can't go anywhere with them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think i'll ever I ever will again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a tough one to get over.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And oysters, I just I don't think that they're worth

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<v Speaker 3>the price of admission. Yeah, I think that they're Every

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<v Speaker 3>time I have one, I was like that was fine.

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<v Speaker 3>It's never a magical experience. Or I'm like I'm glad

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<v Speaker 3>I risked horrible food poisoning for Yeah, that is true. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>how long were you sick for?

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<v Speaker 5>I was sick for forty eight hours. Okay, like violently

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<v Speaker 5>for forty eight hours. And I thought I would be

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<v Speaker 5>okay because I see the water, like I think, like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I would never have an oyster in New York,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, So I thought I was being pretty savvy

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<v Speaker 5>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was wrong to be sick with an ocean view.

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<v Speaker 4>It's cruel.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you on tour or on vacation.

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<v Speaker 4>I was doing an artist residency.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh I know, I know it was, and it's a

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<v Speaker 5>place I really love. I considered moving there, but every

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<v Speaker 5>time I'm somewhere, I'm like, I could just leave it

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<v Speaker 5>all behind.

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<v Speaker 3>So it does kind of feel that way. If I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like in a nice place and I've had one cup

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<v Speaker 3>of coffee, I'm like, I'm ready to start my life here.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't need anything but the items in the suitcase.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly what this residency where you stay in like a

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<v Speaker 3>convent or what was the situation?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I fortunately got to choose my own housing. So

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<v Speaker 5>I found this beautiful place in the historic neighborhood where

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<v Speaker 5>no cars were allowed. I mean I had to fly,

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<v Speaker 5>I had to like take so many stairs every day

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<v Speaker 5>to come in and out. But it was gorgeous and beautiful,

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<v Speaker 5>and the place where I was working on a piano

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<v Speaker 5>album that hasn't come out. This is an exclusive, an exclusive,

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<v Speaker 5>and the space where I was working was just a

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<v Speaker 5>five minute walk, so it kind of felt like campus.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that sounds really nice.

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<v Speaker 5>Just walking home for lunch and then walking back to

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<v Speaker 5>the right to the studio.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, did you have to go up and down the

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<v Speaker 3>stairs when you had food poisoning?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, because of course I don't speak Portuguese. You don't

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<v Speaker 5>realize how truly alone you are until you are sick

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<v Speaker 5>in a country that you don't live in. That all

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<v Speaker 5>was I was rethinking everything. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 5>get around. Is there a target?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Of course, not.

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<v Speaker 5>Not to sound overly American, I'm only like a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit American, but I just didn't know where to get anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there like did you have to go to a pharmacy?

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<v Speaker 3>What was the deal?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>I reached out to the people, the people that was

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<v Speaker 5>hosting my residency and it's like, I'm really sick, and

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<v Speaker 5>they they were like, here's.

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<v Speaker 4>A hospital, how do I get there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>It was I think that makes it worse, being sick

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<v Speaker 5>and not knowing what to do about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, ye, and you're like, when you're sick, you're so emotional,

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<v Speaker 3>you're just hanging by a thread, thinking it's never going

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<v Speaker 3>to end, and then to have stairs to deal with.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I cried at the earthquake, so you could

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<v Speaker 5>imagine like what was going on for me emotionally.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you find the Portuguese healthcare?

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<v Speaker 5>I think in general it's pretty accessible coming from here,

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<v Speaker 5>certainly even for foreigner. It's also really cheap, not so

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<v Speaker 5>consumerist but up selling everything. It's just kind of bare bones.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you know what's wrong with you, they'll get

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<v Speaker 5>it done.

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<v Speaker 4>They'll get it done, and you'll be out of there

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<v Speaker 4>with a you know, lovely Euros absolutely love you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. My one experience with out of country health care

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<v Speaker 3>was in Venezuela, okay, and I've probably talked about this

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<v Speaker 3>on this podcast, but it was from a sunburn and

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<v Speaker 3>an allergic reaction and I thought, truly felt my skin

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<v Speaker 3>was going to leave my body and I ended up

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<v Speaker 3>in an emergency room and they just hydrated me. The

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<v Speaker 3>nurse was wearing a leather jacket, I will say that,

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<v Speaker 3>so that was an interesting vibe. But they took care

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<v Speaker 3>of me and I didn't have to pay a dime.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this was I believe this was under Hugo Chaves

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<v Speaker 3>w Rain. But you know they took care of me.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you speak Spanish?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I friended, Thank god. Otherwise I would have died.

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<v Speaker 4>In the street.

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<v Speaker 3>That would have been would watched my skin crawl away

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<v Speaker 3>and my skeleton and whatever's left just sink into the

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<v Speaker 3>great of the street. But yeah, I've had a perfectly

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<v Speaker 3>fine time. Portugal, though, feels like a lovely place. It

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<v Speaker 3>feels like they're trying to lure all of us there.

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<v Speaker 4>I am with that, with that agenda.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I've heard that it's like kind of easy for

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<v Speaker 3>American expats.

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<v Speaker 4>To go there. Yeah, it's I would move there.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>What's happening there? You know?

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<v Speaker 4>Every time I've gone, which is a lot, like five times.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, your hooks.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm addicted to it and Porto Lisbon, all of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Every experience has been different. But it feels like reinvent

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<v Speaker 5>It feels like you can reinvent yourself there. Oh but

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<v Speaker 5>actually in a way that's sustainable and masting right, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>not in that fleeting way that being on vacation will get.

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<v Speaker 3>You that sounds like enough for me. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just avoid the oysters. You should visit they probably

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 3>have other good seafood. Definitely, I'm with it. I can

0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:12.560
<v Speaker 3>get into that. You are, well, I think we should

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<v Speaker 3>get into something else that I need to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you about. Unfortunately, I'm not thrilled. I'm obviously I was

0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 3>excited to have you here on the podcast today. I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm already a fan of Vagabont's music. What could possibly

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<v Speaker 3>go wrong? We'll have a nice chat and then we'll

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<v Speaker 3>move on with our lives. And then, of course we

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<v Speaker 3>had this kind of important doom earlier with the earthquake.

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<v Speaker 3>That should have been the first sign that something was

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<v Speaker 3>going to go wrong. But then the big thing happened,

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<v Speaker 3>which was you showed up holding what couldn't be more

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<v Speaker 3>clearly a gift.

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<v Speaker 4>That is correct?

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<v Speaker 3>This is this a gift for me?

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<v Speaker 4>It definitely is.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the podcast is called I said no gifts.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry. I was raised with manners.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh what are you trying to say about me?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing, okay, Well we'll just put that aside for now.

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<v Speaker 3>Should I open it here on the podcast?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Please?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, this is interesting because I'm looking at this bag,

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<v Speaker 3>which I will say matches my shirt perfectly. But it's

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:26.359
<v Speaker 3>this Portugal on it. Yes, it is Ceramica's now Lena.

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:30.719
<v Speaker 3>As you can tell, I speak Portuguese perfect accent, and

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<v Speaker 3>then Portugal and then des Day twenty eleven, which I

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<v Speaker 3>established I speak Portuguese. I'll get this ribbon here. Now

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<v Speaker 3>did we get into Portugal just naturally?

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<v Speaker 4>Sick sickness?

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting for this to be the bag.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>This podcast brings everything together. This is the center of

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<v Speaker 3>the universe. Okay, there are two things in here? Should I?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? There are many things, a lot of first yes, okay.

0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 3>There's an inner brown bag. Setting this aside. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we haven't gotten a lot of creak. It's been

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<v Speaker 3>missing from a podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of this packaging is crink blue.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, and now we've got more tissue the listener. Finally,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a noise renaissance for the podcast. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot I'm wow. Okay, So the first thing I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking at, Okay, there's a soap, smelling pine cone, soap

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<v Speaker 3>something like.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't read it. It's in Portuguese.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems I have a pine cone on it. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the assumption and then there's a some sort of voucher. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening here?

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<v Speaker 5>A book of vouchers, A book of vouchers. Yes, that

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<v Speaker 5>is potentially half used.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'd like a half used anything.

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<v Speaker 5>It's I found it in this in this Portuguese store

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<v Speaker 5>called Vita Portuguesa, and I found it in the kids section,

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<v Speaker 5>and I thought it was really cute because it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>love vouchers.

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's all sorts of helicopter is so nearby earthquake check.

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<v Speaker 3>Get out of here, everyone who can mind your own business, perverts. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a bunch of vouchers. For example, a voucher

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<v Speaker 3>for a week without housekeeping, Yes, a voucher for at

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<v Speaker 3>breakfast in bed. Oh, you've give you've used what you've

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 3>used too here? God knows what. Oh, let's say. Oh,

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:41.159
<v Speaker 3>a voucher for turning our home into a spa. And

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 3>an erotic surprise. So I assume those are what's in

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the bag. A voucher for an apology,

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 3>a voucher for an unforgettable dinner about No, wait, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>back here. Get us was in the kids section. It

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<v Speaker 3>was the erotic surprise.

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<v Speaker 5>It was in the kids section. I don't know, maybe

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 5>it was misplaced, but I like to tell the story.

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<v Speaker 5>That's where I found it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, this is sort a voucher for either a

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<v Speaker 3>sunset or a starry night that feels like God's work.

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 3>A voucher for an outdoor activity. Now that's more child

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<v Speaker 3>friendly lazy weekend. Okay, and oh there's one more at

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<v Speaker 3>the end here for whatever love demands.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Okay, Okay, now we're talking.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's I mean, hey, that can be used

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<v Speaker 5>in friendship.

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<v Speaker 3>Friendship could be used in partnership, Erotic friendship, could be used.

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<v Speaker 4>In parental an apology.

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<v Speaker 3>How many of us are parental apology?

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>These are all life moments exactly. I love this. Then

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have to actually write one down, and I couldn't.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I should give you and Analie one

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<v Speaker 3>right now. That's appropriate. So I'm not sexually harassing people

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 3>on the podcast. I'm a quickly pick.

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 5>I'm so intrigued. Okay, we have a surprise analyse.

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited. There's one I'm really hoping for. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I won't reveal what that is till after.

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Tis, I'm giving you a voucher for an apology.

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 3>You can use that on this podcast or later and onalise.

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 3>There are only a few that were free and didn't

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<v Speaker 3>require any work. This is a voucher for either a

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 3>sunset or a starry night. So you let me know

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 3>when you want one of those.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll take that.

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Speaker 3>I'll take it, and I'll get to work.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not the apology that I wanted.

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 3>You wanted the apology. You will never get an apology

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 3>from Oh dare you? There's only one person present that

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 3>will get an apology.

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<v Speaker 4>I will apologize.

0:27:58.200 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 3>You're going to apologize to me.

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<v Speaker 4>By the end of this podcast.

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.239
<v Speaker 3>No, you're going to get an apology for me, and

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 3>you can ask for any apology you want. I will

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 3>give you the most heartfelt apology you can imagine. Okay, So,

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 3>just when you're ready to spring it on me, say

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<v Speaker 3>I need an apology, perfect for Blank Perfect. Now I've

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<v Speaker 3>got Should we keep talking about these vouchers? Have you

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<v Speaker 3>did you ever make these when you were a kid?

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<v Speaker 4>I did not.

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 3>I feel like we would make them for our parents, really,

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<v Speaker 3>or it would be like a voucher for the car

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.959
<v Speaker 3>getting washed or the lawn getting moted. Things basically they

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 3>would already want us to do anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>That's interesting. I only moved to America when I was twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh so yeah, I feel like we make a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like it past twelve, you're not making

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<v Speaker 3>parents exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have really liked it. I think it's really

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<v Speaker 4>are you are you going to use it?

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Of course already I put it into work, that's true,

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 3>and I might mail these without a return address. People

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 3>will be so scared.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad. I think it's a really great it's a

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 4>good thing.

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 3>This is a great thing. I like. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>as a kid, when you make them, nobody ever cashes

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<v Speaker 3>in on them. They're like, well, it's a kid, I'm

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 3>not going to make them do it. But as an adult,

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 3>if I give this to someone, they're going to demand

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 3>that I do it.

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's I think it's romantic.

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's lovely. I'm going to make use

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 3>of these, and the people that get them are going

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 3>to I hope they're grateful.

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Did you ever make your parents any sort of gifts

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 3>as a kid?

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 4>No? Wow, not at all.

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Rude kid, rude, never painted.

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 5>A picture, never painted a picture. My parents didn't really.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think they really had much affinity for the arts.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, I would make them breakfast.

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's nice. Okay, what are you making for breakfast?

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 3>These days are back then, back then, and these days

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 3>back then?

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 4>I would make an omelet.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what's happening in this omelet?

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<v Speaker 4>Everything? Like everything?

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<v Speaker 5>Bell peppers Okay, great, I think they're disgusting, but put

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 5>them in there.

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 4>Bell peppers, onions, onions. That works, that's it.

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, you lost to our definitions of everything are.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and you know we would we would always have

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 5>like a fresh bagette every morning.

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, I mean the omeline can be absolute garbage

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 3>if the bagets.

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 4>Girl, Yes, it's all about the fresh bag.

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 3>At right, right? Oh, to have fresh bag attes.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean what wheat? That was what my parents

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 4>would have. What we would have. My favorite breakfast was

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 4>warm milk and corn flakes.

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh the milk in the corn flakes. Oh yeah, so

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 3>it kind of turns to a mush.

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like porridge exactly, but it's like it's warm. Also,

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 5>corn flakes taste significantly better everywhere outside.

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Of the U.

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I wonder why that is taste different. What are

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 3>they putting them on them? Hair?

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 4>No clue, no clue.

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 5>But to this day, when I get to France or wherever,

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 5>it's like my nostalgic breakfast, I'll go.

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 4>Get corn flakes. Corn flakes.

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if it's a more pure corn.

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 4>I think so. I think so, And it doesn't get like,

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't disintegrate as easy. I can talk about this

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 4>for a week.

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 3>They truly in America, absolutely van I mean, they just

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 3>do not make any sense within a liquid. They make

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 3>the liquid worse, and the liquid makes them worse. I lose,

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 3>lose for everybody. The idea of adding warm milk and

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 3>turning into more of a porridge makes sense, delicious, like

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 3>oh it should be saut. Yes, cornflakes are not eating

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 3>them otherwise exactly. And you don't like a bell pepper,

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 3>no even.

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 4>Raw, especially raw?

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 3>What color are we talking about?

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 4>Green? Yellow?

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 3>For people?

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 4>Which one's there?

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 3>I would say red and yellow, or they're a little sweeter.

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 4>I had a friend who ate them like apples.

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 3>I would, well, I have to have a slice stuff.

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 4>Okay, at least that's a little bit to.

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Just bite into something that's not an apple. What are

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 3>we doing?

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just don't know.

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 3>No, people do that with onions. Yeah, I feel like

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 3>they're just trying to prove something.

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 5>I have pretty weird taste buds as well, so I

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 5>guess I can't jud prove. But well, I'm a little

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 5>as fraid to say. Well, I ate paper for a

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 5>while when I was a kid. Oh wow, how much

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 5>paper like a good A good amount?

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Like daily? You're reading paper, well.

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 4>A couple times a week?

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 3>And was it like a secret snack?

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 4>I should have been more discreete.

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 5>I should have been more discreete, But I, in fact

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 5>did it in front of whoever.

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 4>I thought that the I liked the tape, The like

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 4>the bland, right, you just like the chewing, Yes, I

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 4>like the chewing.

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of what twizzlers are for me.

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 4>You used to love twizzlers.

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 3>I love that chew. Yes, slavor, I could take relief

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 3>that texture, right, they should just have that as a

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 3>plain thing that I can just now.

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 4>Exactly, rice cakes, Oh, rice cakes, it kind of does

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 4>the same thing. Tastes like nothing.

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Kind of these bland chewy it's more of a toy

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 3>than a food, yes, exactly. But paper was doing that?

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 3>And were your parents like you need to stop it.

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes they were concerned. I was very very young,

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 5>but they were like that that's going to hurt you.

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Was it a habit that had to be broken or

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 3>was it just like okay, now it's over.

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 4>It was now it's over.

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay.

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I wanted attention. I don't know. I know exactly

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 4>was going on.

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't my strange addictions choice, no couestionately, now the

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 3>soap here? Are you a bar soap person?

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 3>You're a shower gel person.

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 5>Yes, I am a shower cherison. It's it's hard to try.

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 5>I travel a lot. How do you transport a bar

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 5>of soap bar?

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I never even thought about that.

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:55.959
<v Speaker 5>And it feels wasteful. There'd just be a bunch of

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 5>bars of soak. You never really get it all down

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 5>to the little which is why I gave you that.

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 3>I won't want to kind of push the blame off

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 3>on me.

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 4>It's yours on.

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 3>This is more of a hand soap so I guess

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 3>I could put it next to the sink exactly, or

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 3>just keep it in its paper for years to come.

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 4>It's pretty beautiful, right.

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm more of a shower gel person. Myself. Yeah,

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 3>just a dab. But that's all you need. You can

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 3>transport it. Actually, it's oh, that's also kind of hard

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 3>to transport though, unless you have a three ounce bottle.

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 4>Well, are you a strictly carry on person?

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 3>I am. Oh, I've gone real psycho with carry on.

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, I need tips. I cannot.

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.479
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm at the point where my check bag

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 5>is like seventy pounds. It's like, I mean, I cannot

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 5>travel light A wow.

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 3>I can't stand next to a luggage carousel ever. Again. Really,

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 3>it's oh, at the end of a flight, to be

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 3>standing there, I just want to die.

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 3>So I will pack almost nothing. I will have one

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.280
<v Speaker 3>outfit for a four week vacation. If that's what it takes.

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm impressed.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:05.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's very impressive.

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 5>I am so overloaded at the airport, Like people are concerned.

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 4>Options like I take.

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.919
<v Speaker 5>I think because I tour so much and have toured

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 5>so much for the last seven years. I take a candle,

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 5>a candle like one that will, you know, take me

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:26.439
<v Speaker 5>through the entire tour.

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of a nice little tradition.

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 5>Right, because hotel rooms everything smells weird. So if I

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 5>take a candle I burn.

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 4>In my house.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 5>It kind of gets me smart, a nice experience of

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 5>maybe I'm home or this smells like home.

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh I like that.

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 4>I do these things add up.

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 4>I take my own pillowcases, my own sheets.

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, wow, so you are You're just moving yeah.

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 5>Constantly, which is probably why I feel like I could

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:57.720
<v Speaker 5>just leave everything behind.

0:35:58.000 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're paying a lot of check bag.

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 4>Well I have I have status on Delton.

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh right, because you are touring out, so you're getting

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 3>the points.

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so they're enabling me.

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, they you know, just keep upping it up. Eventually

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 3>they're going to pull the rug from underneath you and

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 3>you're going to say, how do I what do you do?

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 4>I mean to be fair.

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 5>I also carry a lot of equipment around, right, which

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:19.240
<v Speaker 5>is very heavy.

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 4>So it's not all personals.

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Now, going back to this piano album, we don't have

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 3>to talk about it if you don't want to. But

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 3>when the time comes that that gets released, what how

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 3>does that work? Touring? Do venues just have a piano

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 3>for you or do you take a big keyboard?

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 5>Well, I I would like it to be strictly piano.

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 5>Some venues have them, but you can also request them

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 5>to be right for the night and tuned.

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you want a real analog piano.

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes, real, that's a great piano.

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, how are you on a piano?

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 4>Decent?

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's all you need.

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I am self taught in all of the instruments,

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 5>but I am a student, so I think I'm okay, okay,

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 5>but I have a point of view with my.

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Pay kind of all it takes forms some chords exactly.

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you don't need to really know what's going on.

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Does doing it all on piano feel like a giant

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 3>departure for you?

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, is it scary?

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:20.720
<v Speaker 4>It is scary.

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to do it on an instrument, I know

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 5>the least, which is maybe insane, but as a way

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 5>to get me to be more proficient instrument and I've

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 5>always liked working with like orchestral instruments. The album before

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 5>this most recent one, I would use a lot of streams,

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 5>and I kind of wanted to go back to a

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 5>more analogue.

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 4>Orchestral. Yeah. For the art Museum's circuit.

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, this is all lining up. Let me

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 3>run an idea by you. I may have run this

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.919
<v Speaker 3>by somebody else. On this podcast before. But I think

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 3>musicians when there's a stylistic shift for the new album. Yeah,

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.400
<v Speaker 3>this is my pitch to musicians everywhere. They pick a

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.919
<v Speaker 3>song from the last album, cover it in the new

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 3>style on the album.

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 4>I love that idea.

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 3>It feels like an interesting introduction to the as the

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:17.399
<v Speaker 3>listeners like, oh, I love the song the last album. Oh,

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 3>it's so interesting here.

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 4>I love that.

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 3>Why am I not producing music?

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 4>You really should be a producer.

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I've got to be behind boards. You gonna get me

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 3>behind the board.

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 4>Someone get in a room with knobs on a board.

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Just tanking careers right and the left. They call them

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 3>the grim Reaper huff the music industry.

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 4>I think that's a I think that's a brilliant idea.

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 5>I love I love recording music, but I love performance

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 5>and I like to reimagine music for the stage.

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 3>I love to hear this so it's.

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 5>So fun like and it offers something if you come

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 5>to see the show. Yes, a new That's why I

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 5>like to see shows.

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.760
<v Speaker 3>You are absolutely speaking my language. I'm always so frustrated

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 3>when people are like they sound just like the recording, Like,

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 3>well then I should have stayed home. Yes, Yeah, show

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 3>me something else that's gone. I mean, I'm glad to

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 3>see you standing on a stage playing the instruments, but

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 3>it's fun to even rough it up a bit exactly.

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. Yeah.

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 5>So anytime anyone has heard me saying just a little

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 5>bit off the pitch, I'm doing it on purpose, just

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 5>switching things out.

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 3>That's why you go see something live to see a

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 3>slightly less perpose. True, it's true because the album version

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 3>they've done a hundred times to make sure it was interestine. Yeah,

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 3>which is fine.

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean in my current show, I have live saxophone

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 5>on eighty percent of the show and my album has

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 5>maybe twenty percent.

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 4>That's so great saxophone. But it's like, it's it's fun.

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 4>It's course just for exciting. Yeah, it exists in that moment.

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 3>Right, It's something you don't get to take home with.

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 4>You just for the evening exactly.

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Which for me can then later be frustrating where I'm like,

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 3>I should have recorded that on my phone. I'm desperate

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 3>to hear that again.

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 4>And then you go to the next show.

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're hooked, and that's how you get that.

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 4>I guess that's how you sell out the ship.

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever had a huge mistake on stage?

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 4>Yes, definitely, Can we talk about it? Definitely?

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean I think the more electronics are involved in

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 5>a live show, the more room for.

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 3>Error, that seems. So that's surprising to me.

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 4>Right because it should be some level of a shirt

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 4>and it.

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 3>So cold and ready to go.

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. No, one time, I've just with this most recent show,

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 5>I've just started using a click in my ear. In

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 5>my ear because there are songs that flux, you know,

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:42.800
<v Speaker 5>and on stage you're just you're plugged into an adrenaline

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 5>machine and you can't always trust your personal sense of timing,

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:50.320
<v Speaker 5>and when other people rely on it, like your band,

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 5>you kind of need to have some exact So one

0:40:55.480 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 5>time I was in Europe and the click, the metronome

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 5>for a song that is steady at you know, one

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:08.959
<v Speaker 5>hundred and three or something, kept getting faster as I.

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 4>Was playing the song.

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, and oh this is a panic.

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.240
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I didn't know what to do. I couldn't

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 5>adjust my personal timing. I couldn't adjust. It was just

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 5>the computer failed me. It completely failed me, and it

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 5>was bad. But you know, everyone, you know, everyone does

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:31.839
<v Speaker 5>that thing. Where I stopped, looked confused. Everyone does that

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 5>thing where they're like.

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Whoa one person is like clap performance. Yeah, that was

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:40.839
<v Speaker 4>really embarrassing that.

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever played Tetris? No, when you lose Tetris

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 3>towards the end of it, it gets into this moment where

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 3>the music starts speeding up and you go into a

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 3>real panic. That's as close as I can get to

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 3>that feeling.

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 4>It's awful, it's awful.

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Wow. You can't trust a machine anywhere? No, you simply can't.

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 4>Can trust them.

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Wow wow. Okay, well, we still have other things

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:07.319
<v Speaker 3>to open here. Yes, I'm just dilly dallying. That's okay,

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 3>we're pulling out then, is this okay to open the

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 3>next one?

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:10.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, pulling this out more noise? Oh oh oh, so

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 3>it's first, it's your seat. It's fascinatingly your CD, yes,

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 3>which I mean is now it's such an interesting thing

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 3>to own of your last album. Everybody should listen to it. Sorry,

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 3>I haven't called this phenomenal listener if you haven't heard

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 3>it yet with the program Pull Yourself Together. And then

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 3>there's the vinyl for Red, White and Royal Blue, which

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 3>you have a song on.

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 5>Yes, exactly, now I brought you the CD because you bought,

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 5>I brought.

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh brought. I was gonna say, if you paid money

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 3>for your own CD, something's wrong had an effect on you.

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:55.959
<v Speaker 4>I went to the Star, I went to I think

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:57.760
<v Speaker 4>CDs are are back.

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:00.399
<v Speaker 3>They probably. I think it's the we're in this where

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 3>CDs should be coming.

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 5>Backs are back, And I think that you should start

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 5>your collection if you don't already have.

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 3>I have a large one still at my parents' house.

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's wonderful.

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 3>One of those people catalog.

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that's why we worth so much money.

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Physical media. Yes, I mean we won't name names as

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:22.720
<v Speaker 3>far as streaming services go, but someday, the big earthquakes

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.719
<v Speaker 3>in the common, we're all going to want some sort

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 3>of physical meeting. What what about CDs coming back? Like,

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:29.919
<v Speaker 3>what makes you think they're coming back?

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:33.360
<v Speaker 5>Well, I've been lucky enough to operate in a physical

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:35.720
<v Speaker 5>media space of my music.

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 5>The people who listen to my music will buy records,

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 5>they buy vinyl, they buy CDs.

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 4>People in Europe buy a lot of CDs.

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh interesting, I didn't know that, buy.

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:49.280
<v Speaker 5>A lot more than in the US. Touring in Europe,

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 5>It's like, I'm just like we need to double up,

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 5>triple up.

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 4>On the CDs they love interesting, But.

0:43:56.600 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 5>I think because vinyl is now Beyonce has Final right

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 5>and Adele has Finyl, you know, not to sound like

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 5>a but you know, when we were playing our basement shows,

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 5>we had we made because.

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Of course I remember the cassette revive.

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and and like you know, I'm not like sixty seven,

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 5>but like we were making cassettes because we needed something

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.800
<v Speaker 5>to sell, right, the merch table of these small shows.

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.840
<v Speaker 5>So I think that there are a lot of people

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 5>who really like to own. Oh it feels physical medium.

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 5>But CDs are now just really affordable.

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 3>How much does a CD run this these days?

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 4>Ten twelve?

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:38.800
<v Speaker 3>See, that's a nice regular price for music.

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 5>Yes, and you can you can still play them in

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 5>your car. People are carrying CD players around now more,

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 5>and they like the krackle well.

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 3>And this is the other thing I love about anything

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 3>that's not streaming. And when I'm streaming, I just do

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:54.399
<v Speaker 3>this manually, is turn it on so it loops. Yes,

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 3>so I can listen to an album over and over

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 3>and over that which makes me, I'm sure sound like

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm a billion years old. But I love to appreciate

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 3>just an album and get to know what and remember

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:08.239
<v Speaker 3>the lyrics exactly it's like, and then it like you

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 3>can really tie it to moments in time, and then

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 3>it becomes part of your general life exactly so. And

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 3>with the CD, if you're out with the CD, well

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 3>what do we even call that a disc?

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 5>One?

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:22.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, with that and you're one CD, that's all you're

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 3>going to be listening.

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 5>That's all you're listening to, and you really get to

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 5>I really care about the sequence of my albums.

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 4>Spend a lot of time on them.

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 3>The shuffle button should be sent into oblivion. Yes, anytime

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 3>someone has the shuffle button on on an album, I

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 3>just I don't trust their taste.

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 4>No, on an album, this is what you do. That's

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 4>like reading a book from.

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Different trying to put it together.

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.280
<v Speaker 4>It makes its wild.

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I get very snobby when it comes to this

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 3>sort of thing, but it's because I'm right. Yeah, everyone,

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.840
<v Speaker 3>most people are wrong. Most people need to pull it

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:04.720
<v Speaker 3>together and actually figure out how to listen to music.

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's like you can have your favorites.

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 5>Of course you click in and out of, but at

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:12.800
<v Speaker 5>least give it a full listen a few times.

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 3>The favorites are kind of the entry points sometimes and

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 3>then then they're kind of the tent poles, and then yes,

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 3>they allow you to let the other ones become.

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 5>Favorites exactly, because also when you're choosing singles or highlight tracks,

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 5>you're also reserving some really good ones for like album

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 5>songs like this is to be discovered.

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 4>You can't just give it all.

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no no. That's a deep cut. Yeah, that's

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 3>a deeply Do you have a favorite album in life?

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 3>I know that's a big question.

0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:45.799
<v Speaker 5>Oh, a favorite album maybe the Miseducation of Lauren Hill.

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 4>If I had to choose one. It's so good that

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 4>I can listen to that forever.

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 3>They just canceled their whole tour.

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 4>I know.

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 3>It's it's a shame, I know what, an absolutely shame. Yeah,

0:46:56.680 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 3>that's a very very good choice. Yeah, favorite song on

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 3>that album of all time.

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 4>Favorite song of all time, Young Hearts Run Free.

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's a great song. Yeah, I really it's a

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 3>really wonderful song.

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 4>I really like that.

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:12.359
<v Speaker 3>I adore that song.

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 4>That's just what I could go.

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 3>I haven't listened to that in a long time. Yeah,

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 3>that's a real rock solid pick. Yes, least favorite.

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 4>Song, least fit. What would you just.

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 3>Say is the worst song ever made? This is a

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 3>question I love to ask.

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:28.240
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, a worst song? The worst song ever made?

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 3>I have a whole playlist, if you'd like some suggestions.

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 4>I would love some suggestions.

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well I'll tell you My least favorite song ever

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.879
<v Speaker 3>is Red red Wine by Ub forty. It's a cover

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:40.319
<v Speaker 3>of Red red Wine. Have you heard this?

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 3>I hope you never have to hear this piece of music.

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 3>It is excruciating agony, Red red Wine, absolute agony. To

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 3>listen to. Life is a highway.

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Oh, that is really bad.

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:53.359
<v Speaker 3>That one's rough to hear.

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 4>That is really bad.

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 3>Let's see how do I find this? It's in my Spotify?

0:47:57.520 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Was I made it a long time ago?

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 4>Isn't Life is a highway? Kind of like funny?

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:08.800
<v Speaker 3>No, it just sucks. Here's some others, Jack and Diane.

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 3>You know this song by John Mellencamp. Oh, yes, that

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 3>is any song where it's kind of like phony Americana.

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 3>I can't get into it. Are You Gonna Be My Girl?

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 3>By Jet?

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 4>You hate that?

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 3>That is an old Navy commercial. Bad to the bone.

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 3>No one has ever liked that song. Taken care of business,

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 3>hate it. Who's that by Bachman Turner Overdrive?

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't know that one.

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna sing it. I'm not going to subject anybody.

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Even if I could sing, well, I wouldn't subject anybody

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 3>that song. Imagine Dragon's Believer. Oh, hate it, Born to

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 3>be Wild, hate it old time rock and roll, hate it? Wow, Hotel, California.

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry you hate that one. Hate it? I mean,

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 3>this is eighty five songs long. Wow. So those are

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 3>a few. Anyone can look this up. It's called the

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 3>absolute worst songs on Spotify Uptown Funk. Of course that's

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:10.360
<v Speaker 3>an easy target. Now have I been able to Is

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.239
<v Speaker 3>your mind working here with the worst music ever? I

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:16.720
<v Speaker 3>would yes, yes, okay, And what would you say?

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:21.440
<v Speaker 5>I feel like there are a couple of one Republic songs.

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:23.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I mean, let's just say that whole catalog, that

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 3>whole Republic don't reach out.

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I.

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 5>Really don't like that one. There are a few songs

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 5>on the radio that I but I can't.

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I never invest the time to know

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:38.799
<v Speaker 4>who who sings them.

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, I will say, at least as far as

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:47.640
<v Speaker 3>songs on the radio goes, songs by men are overwhelmingly

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.319
<v Speaker 3>worse than the ones sung by women. Yes, pop music

0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 3>sung by men is almost always uniformly terrible, but women

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 3>are able to do good pop music. Yes, I'm like,

0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 3>what's a pop singer? Aren't male pop singer? Who's good?

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Can we name one we might be able to Yeah,

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 3>we're all drawing a blank. Yeah, simply nobody comes to mind.

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm not getting any.

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I think I've made my point. But the

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:18.040
<v Speaker 3>other I was going through this list, I was thinking,

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 3>this is just like a radio station.

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 4>This is jack fam exactly.

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 3>This is something someone would put on in an a

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:25.279
<v Speaker 3>dentist's office, yeah, and be like this is this will do?

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I feel like i've do you remember that band

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 5>the Lumineers.

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Do I know that band the Lumineers. How about ho

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:37.319
<v Speaker 3>Hey by the Lumineers. That's right, yeah, Oh that's a

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 3>whole sound. Yeah, that's a whole sound. And there are

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 3>other bands. I mean, people get really sensitive about their

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:44.879
<v Speaker 3>favorite types of music when they get mad when I'm

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 3>talking about how horrible it is, But the Luminaers are awful.

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 4>It's just not There was like.

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:54.320
<v Speaker 3>From twenty ten to fourteen, there was the Big O

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 3>music with.

0:50:55.880 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 5>Band boards and yeah, oh killing instrument which is like.

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 5>As a lover of folk slash, I even love like

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 5>honky Tonk. There are so many good kinds of that stuff.

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 3>This is the awful verse.

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:13.360
<v Speaker 4>This is like And of course that was popular.

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, you know it was inescapable for a while. Yeah,

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 3>the Lumineers. There was the British guys at the band sho.

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:22.759
<v Speaker 3>I can never remember their name, uh.

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:24.719
<v Speaker 4>Not Mumford and Son.

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Mumford and Son.

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:26.320
<v Speaker 4>That's the one.

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, look, everyone's got their thing. But it's horrible,

0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:33.879
<v Speaker 3>it's absolutely awful. At least you have a least favorite song.

0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Serre. When you were listing all of those songs in

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:43.720
<v Speaker 2>that playlist, huh, I agreed with every single one except

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 2>for the Jet song.

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 4>I will get behind that because that's catchy. Okay, it

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:47.640
<v Speaker 4>is catchy fun.

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Also, I have memories of Kate Winslet dancing to it

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 2>in The Holiday, which is the favorite Nancy Meyers film.

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 4>But Holiday, Yeah, that's my favorite.

0:51:57.080 --> 0:51:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh I haven't even seen the movie. Maybe this will

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:01.759
<v Speaker 3>change my mind on Jet. It won't, but.

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:05.760
<v Speaker 4>The Holidays of great movie.

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Jet was one of those bands that came at the

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:11.720
<v Speaker 3>end of that period of like the garage rock revival

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 3>of good music. And then they were like, we're getting

0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:16.560
<v Speaker 3>on this, We're gonna make it horrible. Yeah, let's go boys,

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 3>and they ruined it. They really killed Yeah. But I

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 3>could talk about my least favorite music all day and

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:26.879
<v Speaker 3>just alienate every person on earth. People get so mad

0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 3>about music. But let's just name him three more American

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Pie by Don McLean, that song, Oh, let's see here

0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:37.720
<v Speaker 3>my humps of course, black Eyed.

0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 4>Peace, Oh my god, you don't like that song.

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 3>And then let's go with let's see here. Oh boy,

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 3>there's so many bad songs in the world. Let's see here,

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Youth of the Nation pod. Do you know this song?

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I do.

0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:59.759
<v Speaker 3>That's a bad one. That's a that's an early thousands

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 3>like new metal song, which I in my opinion, the

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:08.399
<v Speaker 3>early thousands are the absolute bottoming out of music. When

0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 3>that sort of song was able to be top of

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 3>the charts.

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 4>Wow, it was.

0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 3>It was like that Woodstock ninety nine, just the worst

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:19.440
<v Speaker 3>of the worst. What are we doing? Culture? And we

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 3>made it out.

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm so glad we did.

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 3>But I occasionally see people towing the line with nostalgia

0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:26.359
<v Speaker 3>for that, and I think don't go back.

0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:29.919
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm cute. I'm cue is Nickelback on there?

0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:32.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they are.

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure there's a New Yorker piece about why everyone

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:37.719
<v Speaker 5>hates Nickelback so much.

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:41.919
<v Speaker 3>There must be, right, But I don't mind them.

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 5>I don't mind them all that much. They weren't as

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:48.520
<v Speaker 5>offensive as interesting as the lore.

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 3>I wonder. I don't think they're as excruciating as some

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 3>of the stuff here. I think that probably at the time,

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:57.360
<v Speaker 3>they were played so much and it was so just

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:02.359
<v Speaker 3>generic pearl Jam ripoffs sort of thing that people are

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:06.960
<v Speaker 3>just like, what is this trash? And they were right

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:09.400
<v Speaker 3>there with Creed, so it was like a double you

0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 3>know attack. I feel like we were just talking about

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:16.719
<v Speaker 3>them on this podcast, maybe with Joe Castle Baker. Yeah,

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:19.560
<v Speaker 3>was he talking about liking Nickelback or are you talking

0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 3>about liking Creed?

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:21.319
<v Speaker 4>Wow?

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:24.799
<v Speaker 5>Okay, well I can't. For the record, I am not

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 5>a Nickelback fan. I am simply a curious.

0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:32.120
<v Speaker 3>You're doing a full covers album, could you imagine? I

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.880
<v Speaker 3>mean I think that there. I think that things really

0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:37.880
<v Speaker 3>turned around for the worst for them. Everyone turned when

0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:39.759
<v Speaker 3>they did the look at this photograph and like the

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 3>music video is literally him showing a photograph and people

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 3>were like, well, this is okay, it is stupid, we

0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:45.640
<v Speaker 3>get it.

0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 4>It's not artful.

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:52.200
<v Speaker 3>It's no longer artful. Nickelback is no longer tasteful. Okay,

0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:53.880
<v Speaker 3>should we talk about either of these anymore?

0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean we've seen it.

0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:59.799
<v Speaker 3>Everybody seek out Vagabond's music. I'm telling you you're in

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:03.200
<v Speaker 3>for a treat. Okay. Now we're pulling out the final item.

0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh and this is a new sound that I don't

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:07.760
<v Speaker 3>think we've right. This could almost be a limit.

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 4>It's a lot of texture.

0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay. Oh oh, I am thrilled about this. It's a

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:22.359
<v Speaker 3>dye kit. Just yesterday I went to take a two

0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 3>pieces of clothing to be dyed at this community die

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 3>bath called Sway, and I was thinking, on the way,

0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:29.719
<v Speaker 3>I should look up how to dye things. I bet

0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 3>it's not that difficult.

0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, Well that's perfect.

0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:34.120
<v Speaker 3>What is happening?

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:35.560
<v Speaker 4>This is great?

0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:38.799
<v Speaker 5>I mean you should, I mean continue to support the

0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 5>local place. I mean you could dye candles.

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:43.840
<v Speaker 3>You can dye candles.

0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 4>Oh, how does that work? Like beeswax candles?

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:46.600
<v Speaker 2>You just.

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:49.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't even understand.

0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you can create like a gradient almost like this

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 5>and like die them.

0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:55.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh that sounds great. Yeah?

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:57.320
<v Speaker 3>And is this is this a tide kit or is

0:55:57.360 --> 0:55:59.040
<v Speaker 3>it multiple colors?

0:55:58.840 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 4>It's a it's a dye kit.

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 3>It okay, yeah, see here, I'm not open it because

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:08.440
<v Speaker 3>I want to see do easy open? Oh I'm this

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 3>is the color gold and yellow that I was going

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:14.280
<v Speaker 3>to do my shirts. Oh my god, and I'm gonna

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:16.440
<v Speaker 3>I feel like, what do I do? I just get

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:20.080
<v Speaker 3>a bucket of water, basically dump the sin in the backyard. Yes,

0:56:20.200 --> 0:56:23.399
<v Speaker 3>not to wear I would ruin my house. And then

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 3>how long do I have to put the piece of

0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:25.319
<v Speaker 3>clothing in there?

0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:27.040
<v Speaker 4>That is a really good question.

0:56:27.160 --> 0:56:29.959
<v Speaker 5>I kind of just eyeball it and I get it wrong,

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 5>But that's kind of the fun of it, right, that's

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 5>the perfection of exactly no precision, right, except don't get

0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:37.799
<v Speaker 5>it everywhere?

0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:39.640
<v Speaker 3>And I should put some gloves on.

0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:40.520
<v Speaker 4>Put gloves on.

0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:44.319
<v Speaker 3>And how long total would this little project take me?

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:49.520
<v Speaker 5>Well, including the waiting, yes, probably twenty four hours?

0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Twenty four hours. And now here's a question. I have

0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of raccoons coming through the yard, Okay, So

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 3>should I put it in the bucket and then put

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:57.720
<v Speaker 3>it in a secure place.

0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:00.720
<v Speaker 4>I feel like they would be the church. The smells.

0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:04.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, no, no, okay, I these raccoons. If

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 3>anything that they will bring straws.

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you get one of those buckets that have lids.

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:15.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's a bucket with a lid. Yeah, now this

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 3>is something I haven't considered. And maybe I'll look into that.

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Or I think I'm just going to find a secure

0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:24.240
<v Speaker 3>place away from the raccoons and they won't be able

0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 3>to get to it. Yeah, this is going to change

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:27.000
<v Speaker 3>my life.

0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:28.280
<v Speaker 4>I can't wait to see what you make.

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 3>I've got so many shirts and clothing that require dyeing,

0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 3>and these are all colors that work with my complexion. Yes,

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:36.520
<v Speaker 3>if you had brought a red I would have had

0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:38.400
<v Speaker 3>to say, this isn't going to work for me. It

0:57:38.520 --> 0:57:39.440
<v Speaker 3>makes me look sick.

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 4>Do you die? Do you dye them all different colors

0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 4>or just one?

0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:45.320
<v Speaker 3>I usually like a nice, solid one colory.

0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 4>So how come you don't purchase the thing and the

0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:49.760
<v Speaker 4>color you desire?

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, because usually what I like to do is I'll

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:54.000
<v Speaker 3>have a shirt and I'm like, well, I love the

0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:57.520
<v Speaker 3>shirt so much, but it's time as this color is over,

0:57:57.720 --> 0:58:00.880
<v Speaker 3>and you know I'm trying. Yeah, most of the time.

0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:04.640
<v Speaker 3>But to you know, reuse clothing. Yes, and so if

0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 3>I have a shirt that I really liked and it

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 3>feels just tired or whatever, I'm like, it's time for

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 3>you to be resurrected. That's great, It's great. This dye

0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 3>place has completely changed everything.

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:16.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm not considered that and now I'm.

0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:19.919
<v Speaker 3>Basically pirrating from them. They're not going to see another

0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:20.560
<v Speaker 3>sent for me.

0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 4>They won't be They'll be like, wow, it's been a while.

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Now everybody s u a Y go to Sway Die Shop.

0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 3>They're great. They should give me a discount. They should

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 3>reach out to.

0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 4>Me because now I want to go there. You should.

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 3>And they also make really cool clothes. See all out

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:38.560
<v Speaker 3>of recycled clothing. Wow, phenomenal.

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:39.280
<v Speaker 4>I love that.

0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 3>But you just so explain why you brought this.

0:58:44.000 --> 0:58:45.880
<v Speaker 4>The everything, the dye kit.

0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:50.280
<v Speaker 5>Well, I had an extra one, and I just think

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 5>crafting is a good way to spend time. You know,

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 5>I hadn't really tapped into like my sense of play

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:02.800
<v Speaker 5>or doing any thing besides music.

0:59:03.000 --> 0:59:05.120
<v Speaker 3>I know how you feel. I didn't even have music.

0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 5>It's I mean, I really it's like, I was like, Okay,

0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:10.840
<v Speaker 5>this can't be my entire identity, Like, I need to

0:59:11.480 --> 0:59:13.320
<v Speaker 5>have other things that I do and.

0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:14.160
<v Speaker 4>Get excited about.

0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 5>And so I tried a few different things, and dying

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:19.200
<v Speaker 5>was something I got really into.

0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:20.240
<v Speaker 3>What have you been dying?

0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:21.000
<v Speaker 4>Candles?

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Strictly candles, no clothing.

0:59:22.840 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I've done like kitchen napkins before, which is nice

0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:33.200
<v Speaker 5>and nice gift. I will buy like linen, kitchen napkins

0:59:33.280 --> 0:59:37.520
<v Speaker 5>or something and then die though, and that feels really special.

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Right, very custom.

0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I haven't done like clothing, mostly like tablecloths and

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:49.760
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, exactly, I'm doing strictly clothing. Yeah, well that's

0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 5>that's I think that's probably it's intended.

0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, who do you have any pictures of the candles?

0:59:56.320 --> 1:00:00.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh? I don't? Okay, really should that you've done it?

1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 4>It's true, it's true. How could anyone know?

1:00:05.480 --> 1:00:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Finally we get to the bottom of this. You being

1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:12.240
<v Speaker 3>a huge liar. I've exposed you fraud. Well, I'm thrilled

1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:14.160
<v Speaker 3>about this. The listener will have to keep an eye

1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:17.760
<v Speaker 3>out for some dyeed clothing. Everybody look at Instagram. My

1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:20.200
<v Speaker 3>clothes are gonna be all sorts of colors. Anytime something

1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:22.760
<v Speaker 3>looks bad on me from now on, that'll probably be

1:00:22.840 --> 1:00:25.760
<v Speaker 3>something I made, so keep an eye out for that.

1:00:25.960 --> 1:00:28.960
<v Speaker 3>But I'm going to do a yellow first, probably maybe

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<v Speaker 3>even today. Just get into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you keep all of all of the things you.

1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh giving away? Yeah, none of them until just recently

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<v Speaker 3>we did our first live show and I gave away

1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:43.040
<v Speaker 3>some of the gifts.

1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:44.120
<v Speaker 4>Nice.

1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:47.120
<v Speaker 3>And we're doing this live show in New York October

1:00:47.160 --> 1:00:52.160
<v Speaker 3>thirteenth at the Bellhouse. Everybody buy tickets where we'll be

1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:54.520
<v Speaker 3>giving away some more gifts. I'm trying to slowly get

1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:55.360
<v Speaker 3>rid of stuff.

1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:57.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I can imagine you need. A lot of Your

1:00:57.800 --> 1:00:58.800
<v Speaker 4>house is just full.

1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:02.280
<v Speaker 3>It's so much of it is worthless. So much of

1:01:02.320 --> 1:01:06.640
<v Speaker 3>it is I mean, no apologies to anyone, it's crap.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a few meaningful items, a few useful items,

1:01:10.480 --> 1:01:12.640
<v Speaker 3>and then my home is just you know, you just

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<v Speaker 3>picture a landfill, a dump. That's my house at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>You live amongst it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm just crawling over seas of garbage. But none

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<v Speaker 3>of this qualifies for that You've given a very thoughtful,

1:01:25.640 --> 1:01:28.959
<v Speaker 3>thoughtful gift. Oh, I think it's time to play a game.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's play gift or a curse. Okay, I need a

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<v Speaker 3>number from one or ten from you? What did I say?

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<v Speaker 3>I need a number between I need a number between

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<v Speaker 3>one and ten from you.

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<v Speaker 4>I will choose five.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I have to do some light calculating. So right

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<v Speaker 3>now you can recommend, promote, do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be right back. Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Recommending, I definitely recommend you listen to Majesty Crush, and

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<v Speaker 5>I recommend the All Time Cookbook if you like cooking.

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<v Speaker 5>I recommend my third album, Sorry I Haven't Called, which

1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:10.320
<v Speaker 5>is out now on none such records, and you can

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<v Speaker 5>listen to that. You can listen to the previous two albums,

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<v Speaker 5>because I have three in the singles world. I am

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<v Speaker 5>on my third album.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's it, beautiful again, everyone go listen to vagabon

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<v Speaker 3>full albums.

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<v Speaker 4>Full albums.

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<v Speaker 3>Start with the most recent albums. Listen all the way

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<v Speaker 3>through multiple times, and then you'll be ready to go

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<v Speaker 3>on to a new album.

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<v Speaker 4>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Train yourself to have some level of paying attention. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>let's have an attention span for ten minutes. This is

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<v Speaker 3>how we play gift or a curse. Okay, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>name three things. You're gonna tell me if there are

1:02:47.960 --> 1:02:50.000
<v Speaker 3>a gift or a curse and why, and then I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are

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<v Speaker 3>correct answers. Am I perfectly clear?

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<v Speaker 4>You are okay?

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<v Speaker 3>This first one is from a listener named Kylie. Kylie

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<v Speaker 3>suggested curse hosting a dinner party and all the guests

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<v Speaker 3>leave their leftovers with you?

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<v Speaker 5>What curse? What all of the guests leave their leftovers?

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<v Speaker 5>That is a curse. I don't have the fridge space

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want. I love leftovers, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>the influx of leftovers and my fridge. Then I have

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<v Speaker 5>to get rid of them because I can only eat

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<v Speaker 5>so much. I don't even understand why anyone would do that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to go with curse.

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<v Speaker 3>Final answer, Oh, it's a curse. You're right. You know,

1:03:42.840 --> 1:03:45.640
<v Speaker 3>while you're talking, I thought, is this a gift? It's not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a horrible feeling to yes. I mean, we've just

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<v Speaker 3>talked about my home being a dump, but it's all

1:03:50.560 --> 1:03:53.040
<v Speaker 3>the lengths of my home being a dump can only

1:03:53.080 --> 1:03:55.720
<v Speaker 3>go so far. Do not leave your disgusting food at

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<v Speaker 3>my house?

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<v Speaker 4>Why would that?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't eat through this avalanche of weird to hodgepodge

1:04:00.880 --> 1:04:04.520
<v Speaker 3>your foods? No, you didn't want them? Exactly put them

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<v Speaker 3>in your dish and take them home or throw them away,

1:04:07.840 --> 1:04:10.680
<v Speaker 3>or take them and give them away. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want them growing mold in my fridge.

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<v Speaker 4>And why would anyone do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it happens more often than we like to think.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, that is inconsiderate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's an epidemic and people have got to stop

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<v Speaker 3>doing it. It's inconsiderate. So it's an absolute curse. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Number two, This is from a listener names Shannon. Gift

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<v Speaker 3>to a curse doctor's office. Is texting slash emailing you

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<v Speaker 3>on your birthday?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, Wow. This requires a bit of thought. This

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<v Speaker 5>because I've had some really rough birthdays where you know

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<v Speaker 5>that email coming in felt really good, but really really

1:04:57.640 --> 1:05:01.600
<v Speaker 5>good to be thought of. No, I think that it is.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's a curse. Ultimately, I don't need another text.

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<v Speaker 5>I am one of those people with like two hundred

1:05:09.920 --> 1:05:14.120
<v Speaker 5>text messages. I don't need another text. I probably haven't

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<v Speaker 5>seen that doctor in a long time. I know they

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<v Speaker 5>don't really care about me, and it just crowds up everything.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with a curse.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, it's a gift.

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<v Speaker 4>I blew it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I haven't received one from my newest dentist,

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Gamboa, so I can't speak to that. That'll be

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<v Speaker 3>coming up soon and we'll see if she even sends

1:05:37.280 --> 1:05:40.840
<v Speaker 3>me one. But I love to hear from the team

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<v Speaker 3>at the doctor's office. I love to get They usually

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<v Speaker 3>send some sort of terrible emoji, or if you're really lucky,

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<v Speaker 3>a bit moji wow that you know they found in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fourteen and are still kind of recycling. I love

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<v Speaker 3>to hear from doctor's offices. I love to hear from

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<v Speaker 3>the dermatologist. Everybody really make me the king of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Send me emails, send me text I don't care who's

1:06:05.320 --> 1:06:08.800
<v Speaker 3>wishing me a happy birthday as long as I'm getting attention. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a gift.

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<v Speaker 4>Should have gone for my first handswer.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you had a I mean a sad reason

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<v Speaker 3>into it. I mean, if the only person you hear

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<v Speaker 3>from on your birthday is or doctor, it sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>you're maybe you're doing something to the people in your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, something's wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>But then maybe make a friend with your doctor. It

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<v Speaker 3>checks back, Thank you so much. Can we get dinner?

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<v Speaker 4>But then do you delete them? Do you answer?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that remains to be seen. Okay, so you've gotten

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<v Speaker 3>one out of two so far. Final one is from

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<v Speaker 3>someone named Amanda Gift or a curse fast food places

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<v Speaker 3>that ask for your name when you order and use

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<v Speaker 3>it when they hand you your food.

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<v Speaker 5>I am gonna go with curse on that one. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>actually pretty firm on this being a curse. My I'm

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<v Speaker 5>curious how you feel.

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<v Speaker 4>My name is.

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<v Speaker 5>Letitia, and it so often mispronounced and in just atrocious

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<v Speaker 5>ways that make me question my whole identity. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>I give like a fake name, but then that makes

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<v Speaker 5>me feel like I'm not being myself. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna go with curse. I rather have a number than

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<v Speaker 5>a name.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, thank God, And we do need to have

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<v Speaker 3>a discussion about this because I have questions for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a curse coming from someone who worked at a

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<v Speaker 3>cafe bakery where they demanded that we take everyone's name,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you would have to go out into the

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<v Speaker 3>place yelling the person's name, and no one ever responded

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<v Speaker 3>to the name. People respond to a number. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>they want to hear. Names get lost in the noise.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to hear a stranger yelling my name.

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<v Speaker 3>Mind your own business. Yeah, and then again we get

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<v Speaker 3>to our names being difficult. I give a fake name too, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>what are what's the fake name you give?

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<v Speaker 4>I give L?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I give Eric?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>What you get for L? What?

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<v Speaker 1>I like?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you ever to where they're like? Say that again?

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<v Speaker 3>And you're like, okay, well now I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, exactly, they're onto me.

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<v Speaker 5>They know God, but I but I ended when they

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<v Speaker 5>say say it again, I actually spell E L L

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<v Speaker 5>E what I really mean? It's just the letter out right,

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<v Speaker 5>but it works out. There aren't a lot of people

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<v Speaker 5>named L of course, right, they're not shouting out L

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<v Speaker 5>a lot. But why did you choose Eric?

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<v Speaker 3>It's my middle name? Okay, but I again, I'll say

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<v Speaker 3>Eric and I run into other problems. Erin is that

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<v Speaker 3>with a? K? Is that with them? I'm lying to you,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not my don't direct me further into this web

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<v Speaker 3>of flies.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>So I I met a complete lose lose. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I just need to think of the what's a name

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<v Speaker 3>that people cannot miss? Matt?

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<v Speaker 4>But then there are so many.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but at least the person i'm telling will know

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<v Speaker 3>that's true, Tammy.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if they'll believe that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm going to give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 4>You should.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to stop me.

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<v Speaker 5>I think generally it's not nice to hear my name

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<v Speaker 5>being shouted.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it feels like you're in trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>Like something weird, a weird physical place.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's and I think every one of these places there,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure the manager psychology is. It's like it gives

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<v Speaker 3>a personal touch, you know, it doesn't. It just bothers everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of us want to be anonymous.

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<v Speaker 3>We all want a little bit of privacy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't don't even I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 5>talk at the register. So I would prefer to communicating

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<v Speaker 5>in a silent way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't ask for my name. You're not getting it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're getting Tammy. Well, you got two out of three.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not bad noting that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. It's

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<v Speaker 3>called I said no emails. People write into I said

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<v Speaker 3>no gifts at gmail dot com begging for answers. Will

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<v Speaker 3>you help me answer a question? Yes, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 3>get any here, let's do it. This is dearest gracious host. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>layoff and ungrateful guest. My friend's son is my godson. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're already dealing with family math here. My friend's son

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<v Speaker 3>is my godson, but her nephew is the same age,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they have joint birthday parties. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>spoil my godson because he's my favorite, but I always

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<v Speaker 3>feel I have to get something of equal coolness for

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<v Speaker 3>his cousin as well. For example, I got my godson

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<v Speaker 3>a Leapfrog electronic book, the old school kind and a

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<v Speaker 3>Constellation projector because he loves space. I really don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to spend a ton on his cousin, but need ideas

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<v Speaker 3>of what to get him. They're both turning three and

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy building, toy stories, swimming, and gummy bears. Also, how

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<v Speaker 3>long do I have to keep this up? For my

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<v Speaker 3>friend just had a second boy, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>go broke trying to make everything even. Please help me, Rebecca.

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<v Speaker 3>What does Rebecca do with? She has some amount of

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<v Speaker 3>boys in her life. I can't tell exactly, sons and

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<v Speaker 3>sons and nephews and cousins. And there's at least two boys,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's one that has to be given a gift

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<v Speaker 3>that she doesn't care about.

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<v Speaker 5>Right right, there's one that neat that has a lower

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<v Speaker 5>right okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Get him a potato be you don't care about him.

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<v Speaker 4>And arrusted potato.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, potato, just something you know it's from the bottom

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<v Speaker 3>of that bag, and get slightly green. Some rocks, rocks

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<v Speaker 3>a turn up.

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<v Speaker 4>They could build something with rocks.

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<v Speaker 3>Something you found on the grass outside their house walking

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<v Speaker 3>in there. So that's just immediately off the top of

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<v Speaker 3>our heads. Yeah, a three year old would love any

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<v Speaker 3>of those gifts.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I hm, I'm curious about why.

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<v Speaker 3>I am too. Who cares about this three year old's

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<v Speaker 3>opinion of you? Tell him to get lost? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>just spoil the other kid. I mean, really, the feeling

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<v Speaker 3>she should be gunning for here is making the cousin

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<v Speaker 3>mad at her or jealous. That's a more exciting feeling

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<v Speaker 3>to have somebody feel about you with them, they're kind

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<v Speaker 3>of happy.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would the godson? There are a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh I'm not wrong, am I? That there are so

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<v Speaker 3>many sons and godsons and cousins and nephews.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm unclear about what position each holds. But but

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<v Speaker 5>I but I think that they should both have this

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<v Speaker 5>equally cool gifts.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, so now you're wrong. No, no, no, She

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<v Speaker 3>the godson, who I believe is the favorite of hers,

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<v Speaker 3>should be given god the favorite thousands of dollars worth

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<v Speaker 3>of gifts. And then the other one opens a bag

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<v Speaker 3>to some sort of rotting vegetable.

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<v Speaker 4>Rocks or rocks that can taint that three year old.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, but we don't care. We don't care, we don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no investment in either of these. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>these hundreds of three year old's lives. It's Rebecca that's

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<v Speaker 3>in the mud here. She's got to figure out what

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<v Speaker 3>to do with all of this. And I say, just

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<v Speaker 3>spoil and offend. Yes, that's a good strategy going to

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<v Speaker 3>a bad day party.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not bad, I think is cool rocks?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he like, it's kind of a nothing gift. But

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<v Speaker 3>he if he has an imagination, he's worth anything. And

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<v Speaker 3>he's three, like, he'll make something he can make a.

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<v Speaker 4>Weapon to use against her.

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<v Speaker 3>Against her, She walks out in her windshields busted.

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<v Speaker 4>She's created a monster.

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<v Speaker 3>And don't we all at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to create a monster true to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to say I created a monster.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a pretty powerful position, beaudiful, it's a very powerful

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<v Speaker 5>what a legacy?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I I is that your real advice?

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<v Speaker 3>That is my real advice.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>And now it's my real goal in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to create a monster. I don't know who

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<v Speaker 3>or how.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to find someone to mold into an absolute months.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think I think it's okay to spoil the favorite,

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<v Speaker 5>but the not favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>You just give them something that they think is cool.

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<v Speaker 3>You trick them, right, and a three that's very easy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very very easy. You have a few years left.

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<v Speaker 3>Of that right where they're kind of impressed by nearly

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<v Speaker 3>any anything, anything, a lollipop you got at the bank, exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>free pen. Yeah, they really if they open as gift

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<v Speaker 3>and there's something scissors, if they open the gift there's

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<v Speaker 3>something in there, they'll be impressed, exactly. Or I mean

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<v Speaker 3>that's the other thing. With a three year old, you

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<v Speaker 3>could get them something cool and they won't be impressed.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's such a gamble anyway, Yeah, don't go broke

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<v Speaker 3>doing do not invest in a child for a three

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<v Speaker 3>year old. That's my advice, don't invite, don't invest.

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<v Speaker 4>In children, they won't remember.

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<v Speaker 3>They're a waste. Well, I think we answered this perfectly, Rebecca.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't taken my advice, there's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a huge problem for all kinds of uncounted people. You know, countless,

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<v Speaker 3>countless people. So please heed my words, heed Latitia's words. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I think she was stronger about ruining the child than

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<v Speaker 3>I was. So don't write back in Oh, I've had

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<v Speaker 3>such a wonderful time with you, and to my whole

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<v Speaker 3>wardrobe is going to change.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so excited for you, and I am such a

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<v Speaker 4>fan of your podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Reached out. I was, I was through the roof. I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who I actually like. I mean, that's not what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean. I love all of my guests, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>fun when a musician who I respect and appreciate wants

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<v Speaker 3>to be involved.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, thank you, I listen. I am a true fan.

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<v Speaker 3>That's very sorry, that's very sorry. If the lumineers reached out,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not getting on the podcast. Sorry, imagine dragons, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not getting on the podcast. I don't care how many

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<v Speaker 3>emails you sent. Thank you for being here.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, and thanks for having me in your beautiful home.

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<v Speaker 3>Anytime back here, any post earthquake time. You're safe here.

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<v Speaker 4>It's nice to be coming down from the earthquake.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is a nice earthquake come down.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel at ease too. Listener. I hope you're not

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<v Speaker 3>currently in the middle of an earthquake and freaking out

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<v Speaker 3>and screaming and looking for a table. That would be horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you are, the podcast is over, so now

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<v Speaker 3>you can get under the table. I love you, goodbye,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

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<v Speaker 3>produced by our dear friend Analise Nilson, and it's beautifully

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<v Speaker 3>mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without

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<v Speaker 3>our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>could only come from miracle worker Amy Man. You must

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<v Speaker 3>follow the show on instae Graham at I said, no Gifts.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you

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<v Speaker 3>get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting,

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<v Speaker 3>And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts?

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<v Speaker 4>But I invited you hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought. I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest

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<v Speaker 1>to my home. You gotta come to me empty, And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, no gifts, You're o presences, presents enough. I

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<v Speaker 1>already had too much stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So how do you dare to surbey me?