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Speaker 3: New York. We're doing one in New York. New York

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Speaker 3: that liquidation sale. You were, You know, you could get CDs, DVDs,

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Speaker 3: the Bellhouse the Bellhouse on October thirteenth at seven thirty pm.

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Speaker 3: No Gifts Live the second show. It's gonna be spectacular.

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Speaker 3: We're going to have an absolute ball. We always have

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Speaker 3: Welcome to I said no Gifts, I Bridger Wineger. We're

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Speaker 3: in the backyard. I mean, there's just been an earthquake.

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Speaker 3: There's just been an enormous earthquake, the biggest one I've

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Speaker 3: so that's some news for you. I think we released

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Speaker 3: today's guest. I absolutely thinks she's wonderful. It's vagabond. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to I said, no gifts. How are you doing?

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Speaker 4: It's true.

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Speaker 3: I love a good story. Yeah, I love a good

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Speaker 5: I've been listening to this shoegaze band from Detroit. They

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Speaker 4: After this, oh exactly.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it's actually worth anybody's time.

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Speaker 5: Way, exactly Hopefully I should call you every time I'm

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Speaker 4: They inspire if we don't specify what exactly.

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Speaker 4: Well, the city of Lisbon?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Lisbon in general? Was it fish? Oysters?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: It was I think that makes it worse, being sick

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Speaker 3: How did you find the Portuguese healthcare?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. My one experience with out of country health care

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Speaker 3: Yes, this was I believe this was under Hugo Chaves

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Speaker 4: Did you speak Spanish?

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Speaker 3: No, I friended, Thank god. Otherwise I would have died.

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Speaker 4: In the street.

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Speaker 4: I am with that, with that agenda.

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00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I've heard that it's like kind of easy for

445
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 3: American expats.

446
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 4: To go there. Yeah, it's I would move there.

447
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 2: What is it?

448
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,719
Speaker 3: What's happening there? You know?

449
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 4: Every time I've gone, which is a lot, like five times.

450
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 3: Oh wow, your hooks.

451
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm addicted to it and Porto Lisbon, all of it.

452
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 5: Every experience has been different. But it feels like reinvent

453
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 5: It feels like you can reinvent yourself there. Oh but

454
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 5: actually in a way that's sustainable and masting right, you know,

455
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 5: not in that fleeting way that being on vacation will get.

456
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 3: You that sounds like enough for me. Yeah, and then

457
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 3: I'll just avoid the oysters. You should visit they probably

458
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: have other good seafood. Definitely, I'm with it. I can

459
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 3: get into that. You are, well, I think we should

460
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 3: get into something else that I need to talk to

461
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 3: you about. Unfortunately, I'm not thrilled. I'm obviously I was

462
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: excited to have you here on the podcast today. I thought,

463
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 3: I'm already a fan of Vagabont's music. What could possibly

464
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 3: go wrong? We'll have a nice chat and then we'll

465
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: move on with our lives. And then, of course we

466
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 3: had this kind of important doom earlier with the earthquake.

467
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 3: That should have been the first sign that something was

468
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 3: going to go wrong. But then the big thing happened,

469
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 3: which was you showed up holding what couldn't be more

470
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 3: clearly a gift.

471
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 4: That is correct?

472
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 3: This is this a gift for me?

473
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 4: It definitely is.

474
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 3: Okay, the podcast is called I said no gifts.

475
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I was raised with manners.

476
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 3: Oh what are you trying to say about me?

477
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:01,719
Speaker 4: Well?

478
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 3: Nothing, okay, Well we'll just put that aside for now.

479
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 3: Should I open it here on the podcast?

480
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 4: Yes? Please?

481
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: Now, this is interesting because I'm looking at this bag,

482
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 3: which I will say matches my shirt perfectly. But it's

483
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 3: this Portugal on it. Yes, it is Ceramica's now Lena.

484
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 3: As you can tell, I speak Portuguese perfect accent, and

485
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 3: then Portugal and then des Day twenty eleven, which I

486
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 3: established I speak Portuguese. I'll get this ribbon here. Now

487
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: did we get into Portugal just naturally?

488
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 4: Sick sickness?

489
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 3: Interesting for this to be the bag.

490
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 4: I know.

491
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 3: This podcast brings everything together. This is the center of

492
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 3: the universe. Okay, there are two things in here? Should I?

493
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: Yes? There are many things, a lot of first yes, okay.

494
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: There's an inner brown bag. Setting this aside. I feel

495
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 3: like we haven't gotten a lot of creak. It's been

496
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: missing from a podcast.

497
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 5: A lot of this packaging is crink blue.

498
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: Oh, and now we've got more tissue the listener. Finally,

499
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 3: this is a noise renaissance for the podcast. Oh okay,

500
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 3: I forgot I'm wow. Okay, So the first thing I'm

501
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: looking at, Okay, there's a soap, smelling pine cone, soap

502
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 3: something like.

503
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 4: I can't read it. It's in Portuguese.

504
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: It seems I have a pine cone on it. That's

505
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: the assumption and then there's a some sort of voucher. Yes,

506
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: what's happening here?

507
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 5: A book of vouchers, A book of vouchers. Yes, that

508
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 5: is potentially half used.

509
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd like a half used anything.

510
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 5: It's I found it in this in this Portuguese store

511
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 5: called Vita Portuguesa, and I found it in the kids section,

512
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 5: and I thought it was really cute because it's it's

513
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 5: love vouchers.

514
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all sorts of helicopter is so nearby earthquake check.

515
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: Get out of here, everyone who can mind your own business, perverts. Okay,

516
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 3: So it's a bunch of vouchers. For example, a voucher

517
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 3: for a week without housekeeping, Yes, a voucher for at

518
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 3: breakfast in bed. Oh, you've give you've used what you've

519
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 3: used too here? God knows what. Oh, let's say. Oh,

520
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 3: a voucher for turning our home into a spa. And

521
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: an erotic surprise. So I assume those are what's in

522
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 3: the rest of the bag. A voucher for an apology,

523
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: a voucher for an unforgettable dinner about No, wait, I'm

524
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: back here. Get us was in the kids section. It

525
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: was the erotic surprise.

526
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 5: It was in the kids section. I don't know, maybe

527
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 5: it was misplaced, but I like to tell the story.

528
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 5: That's where I found it.

529
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, this is sort a voucher for either a

530
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: sunset or a starry night that feels like God's work.

531
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: A voucher for an outdoor activity. Now that's more child

532
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: friendly lazy weekend. Okay, and oh there's one more at

533
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: the end here for whatever love demands.

534
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, Okay, now we're talking.

535
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 5: I think it's I mean, hey, that can be used

536
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 5: in friendship.

537
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: Friendship could be used in partnership, Erotic friendship, could be used.

538
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 4: In parental an apology.

539
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 3: How many of us are parental apology?

540
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 4: Exactly?

541
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: These are all life moments exactly. I love this. Then

542
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: I don't have to actually write one down, and I couldn't.

543
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 3: I feel like I should give you and Analie one

544
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: right now. That's appropriate. So I'm not sexually harassing people

545
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 3: on the podcast. I'm a quickly pick.

546
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 5: I'm so intrigued. Okay, we have a surprise analyse.

547
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. There's one I'm really hoping for. Really, yeah,

548
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: I won't reveal what that is till after.

549
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Tis, I'm giving you a voucher for an apology.

550
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 3: You can use that on this podcast or later and onalise.

551
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: There are only a few that were free and didn't

552
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 3: require any work. This is a voucher for either a

553
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: sunset or a starry night. So you let me know

554
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: when you want one of those.

555
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 4: I'll take that.

556
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 3: I'll take it, and I'll get to work.

557
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 4: It's not the apology that I wanted.

558
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 3: You wanted the apology. You will never get an apology

559
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: from Oh dare you? There's only one person present that

560
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: will get an apology.

561
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 4: I will apologize.

562
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: You're going to apologize to me.

563
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 4: By the end of this podcast.

564
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 3: No, you're going to get an apology for me, and

565
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: you can ask for any apology you want. I will

566
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: give you the most heartfelt apology you can imagine. Okay, So,

567
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 3: just when you're ready to spring it on me, say

568
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: I need an apology, perfect for Blank Perfect. Now I've

569
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: got Should we keep talking about these vouchers? Have you

570
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 3: did you ever make these when you were a kid?

571
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 4: I did not.

572
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: I feel like we would make them for our parents, really,

573
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: or it would be like a voucher for the car

574
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 3: getting washed or the lawn getting moted. Things basically they

575
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 3: would already want us to do anyway.

576
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 5: That's interesting. I only moved to America when I was twelve.

577
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: Oh so yeah, I feel like we make a lot

578
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 4: of the Yeah.

579
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it past twelve, you're not making

580
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: parents exactly.

581
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: I would have really liked it. I think it's really

582
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 4: are you are you going to use it?

583
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: Of course already I put it into work, that's true,

584
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: and I might mail these without a return address. People

585
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: will be so scared.

586
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: I'm glad. I think it's a really great it's a

587
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: good thing.

588
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: This is a great thing. I like. I feel like

589
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: as a kid, when you make them, nobody ever cashes

590
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: in on them. They're like, well, it's a kid, I'm

591
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: not going to make them do it. But as an adult,

592
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: if I give this to someone, they're going to demand

593
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: that I do it.

594
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

595
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's romantic.

596
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's lovely. I'm going to make use

597
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: of these, and the people that get them are going

598
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 3: to I hope they're grateful.

599
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

600
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: Did you ever make your parents any sort of gifts

601
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: as a kid?

602
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: No? Wow, not at all.

603
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: Rude kid, rude, never painted.

604
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 5: A picture, never painted a picture. My parents didn't really.

605
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 5: I don't think they really had much affinity for the arts.

606
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 5: Oh okay, I would make them breakfast.

607
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice. Okay, what are you making for breakfast?

608
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: These days are back then, back then, and these days

609
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: back then?

610
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 4: I would make an omelet.

611
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 3: Okay, what's happening in this omelet?

612
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 4: Everything? Like everything?

613
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 5: Bell peppers Okay, great, I think they're disgusting, but put

614
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 5: them in there.

615
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: Bell peppers, onions, onions. That works, that's it.

616
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, you lost to our definitions of everything are.

617
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 5: Yes, and you know we would we would always have

618
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 5: like a fresh bagette every morning.

619
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean the omeline can be absolute garbage

620
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: if the bagets.

621
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: Girl, Yes, it's all about the fresh bag.

622
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: At right, right? Oh, to have fresh bag attes.

623
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 4: And I mean what wheat? That was what my parents

624
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 4: would have. What we would have. My favorite breakfast was

625
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: warm milk and corn flakes.

626
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: Oh the milk in the corn flakes. Oh yeah, so

627
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: it kind of turns to a mush.

628
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, like porridge exactly, but it's like it's warm. Also,

629
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 5: corn flakes taste significantly better everywhere outside.

630
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 4: Of the U.

631
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: Yes, I wonder why that is taste different. What are

632
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: they putting them on them? Hair?

633
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 4: No clue, no clue.

634
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 5: But to this day, when I get to France or wherever,

635
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 5: it's like my nostalgic breakfast, I'll go.

636
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 4: Get corn flakes. Corn flakes.

637
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's a more pure corn.

638
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: I think so. I think so, And it doesn't get like,

639
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: it doesn't disintegrate as easy. I can talk about this

640
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 4: for a week.

641
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: They truly in America, absolutely van I mean, they just

642
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: do not make any sense within a liquid. They make

643
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: the liquid worse, and the liquid makes them worse. I lose,

644
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: lose for everybody. The idea of adding warm milk and

645
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: turning into more of a porridge makes sense, delicious, like

646
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: oh it should be saut. Yes, cornflakes are not eating

647
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: them otherwise exactly. And you don't like a bell pepper,

648
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: no even.

649
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 4: Raw, especially raw?

650
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: What color are we talking about?

651
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: Green? Yellow?

652
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: For people?

653
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 4: Which one's there?

654
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: I would say red and yellow, or they're a little sweeter.

655
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: I had a friend who ate them like apples.

656
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: I would, well, I have to have a slice stuff.

657
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: Okay, at least that's a little bit to.

658
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: Just bite into something that's not an apple. What are

659
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: we doing?

660
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't know.

661
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: No, people do that with onions. Yeah, I feel like

662
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: they're just trying to prove something.

663
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 5: I have pretty weird taste buds as well, so I

664
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 5: guess I can't jud prove. But well, I'm a little

665
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 5: as fraid to say. Well, I ate paper for a

666
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 5: while when I was a kid. Oh wow, how much

667
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 5: paper like a good A good amount?

668
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: Like daily? You're reading paper, well.

669
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: A couple times a week?

670
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: And was it like a secret snack?

671
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 4: I should have been more discreete.

672
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 5: I should have been more discreete, But I, in fact

673
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 5: did it in front of whoever.

674
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 4: I thought that the I liked the tape, The like

675
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: the bland, right, you just like the chewing, Yes, I

676
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: like the chewing.

677
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: That's kind of what twizzlers are for me.

678
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: You used to love twizzlers.

679
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: I love that chew. Yes, slavor, I could take relief

680
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: that texture, right, they should just have that as a

681
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: plain thing that I can just now.

682
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 4: Exactly, rice cakes, Oh, rice cakes, it kind of does

683
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 4: the same thing. Tastes like nothing.

684
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: Kind of these bland chewy it's more of a toy

685
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: than a food, yes, exactly. But paper was doing that?

686
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: And were your parents like you need to stop it.

687
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 5: Yes, yes they were concerned. I was very very young,

688
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 5: but they were like that that's going to hurt you.

689
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: Was it a habit that had to be broken or

690
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: was it just like okay, now it's over.

691
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 4: It was now it's over.

692
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: Oh okay.

693
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 4: Maybe I wanted attention. I don't know. I know exactly

694
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 4: was going on.

695
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: It wasn't my strange addictions choice, no couestionately, now the

696
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: soap here? Are you a bar soap person?

697
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm not.

698
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: You're a shower gel person.

699
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 5: Yes, I am a shower cherison. It's it's hard to try.

700
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 5: I travel a lot. How do you transport a bar

701
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 5: of soap bar?

702
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: I never even thought about that.

703
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 5: And it feels wasteful. There'd just be a bunch of

704
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 5: bars of soak. You never really get it all down

705
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 5: to the little which is why I gave you that.

706
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: I won't want to kind of push the blame off

707
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: on me.

708
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 4: It's yours on.

709
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: This is more of a hand soap so I guess

710
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: I could put it next to the sink exactly, or

711
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: just keep it in its paper for years to come.

712
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: It's pretty beautiful, right.

713
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm more of a shower gel person. Myself. Yeah,

714
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: just a dab. But that's all you need. You can

715
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 3: transport it. Actually, it's oh, that's also kind of hard

716
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: to transport though, unless you have a three ounce bottle.

717
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: Well, are you a strictly carry on person?

718
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: I am. Oh, I've gone real psycho with carry on.

719
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I need tips. I cannot.

720
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm at the point where my check bag

721
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 5: is like seventy pounds. It's like, I mean, I cannot

722
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 5: travel light A wow.

723
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: I can't stand next to a luggage carousel ever. Again. Really,

724
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: it's oh, at the end of a flight, to be

725
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: standing there, I just want to die.

726
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

727
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 3: So I will pack almost nothing. I will have one

728
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 3: outfit for a four week vacation. If that's what it takes.

729
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: I'm impressed.

730
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it's very impressive.

731
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: I am so overloaded at the airport, Like people are concerned.

732
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 4: Options like I take.

733
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 5: I think because I tour so much and have toured

734
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 5: so much for the last seven years. I take a candle,

735
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 5: a candle like one that will, you know, take me

736
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 5: through the entire tour.

737
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: That's kind of a nice little tradition.

738
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 5: Right, because hotel rooms everything smells weird. So if I

739
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 5: take a candle I burn.

740
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 4: In my house.

741
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: It kind of gets me smart, a nice experience of

742
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 5: maybe I'm home or this smells like home.

743
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: Oh I like that.

744
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: I do these things add up.

745
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: You know.

746
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 4: I take my own pillowcases, my own sheets.

747
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: Okay, wow, so you are You're just moving yeah.

748
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 5: Constantly, which is probably why I feel like I could

749
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 5: just leave everything behind.

750
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're paying a lot of check bag.

751
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: Well I have I have status on Delton.

752
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: Oh right, because you are touring out, so you're getting

753
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: the points.

754
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they're enabling me.

755
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: Okay, they you know, just keep upping it up. Eventually

756
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: they're going to pull the rug from underneath you and

757
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: you're going to say, how do I what do you do?

758
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 4: I mean to be fair.

759
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 5: I also carry a lot of equipment around, right, which

760
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 5: is very heavy.

761
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 4: So it's not all personals.

762
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

763
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: Now, going back to this piano album, we don't have

764
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: to talk about it if you don't want to. But

765
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: when the time comes that that gets released, what how

766
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: does that work? Touring? Do venues just have a piano

767
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: for you or do you take a big keyboard?

768
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 5: Well, I I would like it to be strictly piano.

769
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 5: Some venues have them, but you can also request them

770
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 5: to be right for the night and tuned.

771
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you want a real analog piano.

772
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: Yes, real, that's a great piano.

773
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how are you on a piano?

774
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: Decent?

775
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: Okay, that's all you need.

776
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I am self taught in all of the instruments,

777
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 5: but I am a student, so I think I'm okay, okay,

778
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 5: but I have a point of view with my.

779
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: Pay kind of all it takes forms some chords exactly.

780
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't need to really know what's going on.

781
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 3: Does doing it all on piano feel like a giant

782
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: departure for you?

783
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 4: Yes?

784
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, is it scary?

785
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 4: It is scary.

786
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 5: I wanted to do it on an instrument, I know

787
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 5: the least, which is maybe insane, but as a way

788
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 5: to get me to be more proficient instrument and I've

789
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 5: always liked working with like orchestral instruments. The album before

790
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 5: this most recent one, I would use a lot of streams,

791
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 5: and I kind of wanted to go back to a

792
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: more analogue.

793
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 4: Orchestral. Yeah. For the art Museum's circuit.

794
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, this is all lining up. Let me

795
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: run an idea by you. I may have run this

796
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 3: by somebody else. On this podcast before. But I think

797
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: musicians when there's a stylistic shift for the new album. Yeah,

798
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: this is my pitch to musicians everywhere. They pick a

799
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 3: song from the last album, cover it in the new

800
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: style on the album.

801
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 4: I love that idea.

802
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: It feels like an interesting introduction to the as the

803
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: listeners like, oh, I love the song the last album. Oh,

804
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 3: it's so interesting here.

805
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 4: I love that.

806
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: Why am I not producing music?

807
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: You really should be a producer.

808
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: I've got to be behind boards. You gonna get me

809
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: behind the board.

810
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 4: Someone get in a room with knobs on a board.

811
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: Just tanking careers right and the left. They call them

812
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: the grim Reaper huff the music industry.

813
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: I think that's a I think that's a brilliant idea.

814
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 5: I love I love recording music, but I love performance

815
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 5: and I like to reimagine music for the stage.

816
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: I love to hear this so it's.

817
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 5: So fun like and it offers something if you come

818
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 5: to see the show. Yes, a new That's why I

819
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 5: like to see shows.

820
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 3: You are absolutely speaking my language. I'm always so frustrated

821
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: when people are like they sound just like the recording, Like,

822
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: well then I should have stayed home. Yes, Yeah, show

823
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 3: me something else that's gone. I mean, I'm glad to

824
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: see you standing on a stage playing the instruments, but

825
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: it's fun to even rough it up a bit exactly.

826
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Yeah.

827
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 5: So anytime anyone has heard me saying just a little

828
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 5: bit off the pitch, I'm doing it on purpose, just

829
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 5: switching things out.

830
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 3: That's why you go see something live to see a

831
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: slightly less perpose. True, it's true because the album version

832
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: they've done a hundred times to make sure it was interestine. Yeah,

833
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: which is fine.

834
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

835
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 5: I mean in my current show, I have live saxophone

836
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 5: on eighty percent of the show and my album has

837
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 5: maybe twenty percent.

838
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 4: That's so great saxophone. But it's like, it's it's fun.

839
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 4: It's course just for exciting. Yeah, it exists in that moment.

840
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: Right, It's something you don't get to take home with.

841
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 4: You just for the evening exactly.

842
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: Which for me can then later be frustrating where I'm like,

843
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 3: I should have recorded that on my phone. I'm desperate

844
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: to hear that again.

845
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 4: And then you go to the next show.

846
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're hooked, and that's how you get that.

847
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: I guess that's how you sell out the ship.

848
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: Have you ever had a huge mistake on stage?

849
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: Yes, definitely, Can we talk about it? Definitely?

850
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 5: I mean I think the more electronics are involved in

851
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 5: a live show, the more room for.

852
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: Error, that seems. So that's surprising to me.

853
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 4: Right because it should be some level of a shirt

854
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: and it.

855
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: So cold and ready to go.

856
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, one time, I've just with this most recent show,

857
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 5: I've just started using a click in my ear. In

858
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 5: my ear because there are songs that flux, you know,

859
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 5: and on stage you're just you're plugged into an adrenaline

860
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 5: machine and you can't always trust your personal sense of timing,

861
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 5: and when other people rely on it, like your band,

862
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 5: you kind of need to have some exact So one

863
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 5: time I was in Europe and the click, the metronome

864
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 5: for a song that is steady at you know, one

865
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,959
Speaker 5: hundred and three or something, kept getting faster as I.

866
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 4: Was playing the song.

867
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: Oh boy, and oh this is a panic.

868
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I didn't know what to do. I couldn't

869
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 5: adjust my personal timing. I couldn't adjust. It was just

870
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 5: the computer failed me. It completely failed me, and it

871
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 5: was bad. But you know, everyone, you know, everyone does

872
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 5: that thing. Where I stopped, looked confused. Everyone does that

873
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 5: thing where they're like.

874
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 4: Whoa one person is like clap performance. Yeah, that was

875
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 4: really embarrassing that.

876
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: Have you ever played Tetris? No, when you lose Tetris

877
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: towards the end of it, it gets into this moment where

878
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: the music starts speeding up and you go into a

879
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: real panic. That's as close as I can get to

880
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: that feeling.

881
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 4: It's awful, it's awful.

882
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: Wow. You can't trust a machine anywhere? No, you simply can't.

883
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: Can trust them.

884
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow wow. Okay, well, we still have other things

885
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: to open here. Yes, I'm just dilly dallying. That's okay,

886
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: we're pulling out then, is this okay to open the

887
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: next one?

888
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 4: Yes?

889
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: Okay, pulling this out more noise? Oh oh oh, so

890
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: it's first, it's your seat. It's fascinatingly your CD, yes,

891
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: which I mean is now it's such an interesting thing

892
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: to own of your last album. Everybody should listen to it. Sorry,

893
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: I haven't called this phenomenal listener if you haven't heard

894
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: it yet with the program Pull Yourself Together. And then

895
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: there's the vinyl for Red, White and Royal Blue, which

896
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: you have a song on.

897
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly, now I brought you the CD because you bought,

898
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 5: I brought.

899
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: Oh brought. I was gonna say, if you paid money

900
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: for your own CD, something's wrong had an effect on you.

901
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 4: I went to the Star, I went to I think

902
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 4: CDs are are back.

903
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 3: They probably. I think it's the we're in this where

904
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 3: CDs should be coming.

905
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 5: Backs are back, And I think that you should start

906
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 5: your collection if you don't already have.

907
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: I have a large one still at my parents' house.

908
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 4: Oh that's wonderful.

909
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: One of those people catalog.

910
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's why we worth so much money.

911
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: Physical media. Yes, I mean we won't name names as

912
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 3: far as streaming services go, but someday, the big earthquakes

913
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: in the common, we're all going to want some sort

914
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 3: of physical meeting. What what about CDs coming back? Like,

915
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 3: what makes you think they're coming back?

916
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 5: Well, I've been lucky enough to operate in a physical

917
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 5: media space of my music.

918
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: Right.

919
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 5: The people who listen to my music will buy records,

920
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 5: they buy vinyl, they buy CDs.

921
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 4: People in Europe buy a lot of CDs.

922
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, I didn't know that, buy.

923
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 5: A lot more than in the US. Touring in Europe,

924
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 5: It's like, I'm just like we need to double up,

925
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 5: triple up.

926
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 4: On the CDs they love interesting, But.

927
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 5: I think because vinyl is now Beyonce has Final right

928
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 5: and Adele has Finyl, you know, not to sound like

929
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 5: a but you know, when we were playing our basement shows,

930
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 5: we had we made because.

931
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: Of course I remember the cassette revive.

932
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and and like you know, I'm not like sixty seven,

933
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 5: but like we were making cassettes because we needed something

934
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 5: to sell, right, the merch table of these small shows.

935
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 5: So I think that there are a lot of people

936
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 5: who really like to own. Oh it feels physical medium.

937
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 5: But CDs are now just really affordable.

938
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: How much does a CD run this these days?

939
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 4: Ten twelve?

940
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: See, that's a nice regular price for music.

941
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 5: Yes, and you can you can still play them in

942
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 5: your car. People are carrying CD players around now more,

943
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 5: and they like the krackle well.

944
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: And this is the other thing I love about anything

945
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: that's not streaming. And when I'm streaming, I just do

946
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 3: this manually, is turn it on so it loops. Yes,

947
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: so I can listen to an album over and over

948
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: and over that which makes me, I'm sure sound like

949
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: I'm a billion years old. But I love to appreciate

950
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: just an album and get to know what and remember

951
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: the lyrics exactly it's like, and then it like you

952
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: can really tie it to moments in time, and then

953
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: it becomes part of your general life exactly so. And

954
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: with the CD, if you're out with the CD, well

955
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 3: what do we even call that a disc?

956
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 5: One?

957
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, with that and you're one CD, that's all you're

958
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: going to be listening.

959
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 5: That's all you're listening to, and you really get to

960
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 5: I really care about the sequence of my albums.

961
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: Spend a lot of time on them.

962
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: The shuffle button should be sent into oblivion. Yes, anytime

963
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: someone has the shuffle button on on an album, I

964
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: just I don't trust their taste.

965
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: No, on an album, this is what you do. That's

966
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: like reading a book from.

967
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 3: Different trying to put it together.

968
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 4: It makes its wild.

969
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I get very snobby when it comes to this

970
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 3: sort of thing, but it's because I'm right. Yeah, everyone,

971
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: most people are wrong. Most people need to pull it

972
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 3: together and actually figure out how to listen to music.

973
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: Yes, it's like you can have your favorites.

974
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 5: Of course you click in and out of, but at

975
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 5: least give it a full listen a few times.

976
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: The favorites are kind of the entry points sometimes and

977
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: then then they're kind of the tent poles, and then yes,

978
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: they allow you to let the other ones become.

979
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 5: Favorites exactly, because also when you're choosing singles or highlight tracks,

980
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 5: you're also reserving some really good ones for like album

981
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 5: songs like this is to be discovered.

982
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 4: You can't just give it all.

983
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no. That's a deep cut. Yeah, that's

984
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 3: a deeply Do you have a favorite album in life?

985
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: I know that's a big question.

986
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 5: Oh, a favorite album maybe the Miseducation of Lauren Hill.

987
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 4: If I had to choose one. It's so good that

988
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 4: I can listen to that forever.

989
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: They just canceled their whole tour.

990
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 4: I know.

991
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: It's it's a shame, I know what, an absolutely shame. Yeah,

992
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: that's a very very good choice. Yeah, favorite song on

993
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: that album of all time.

994
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 4: Favorite song of all time, Young Hearts Run Free.

995
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: Oh that's a great song. Yeah, I really it's a

996
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: really wonderful song.

997
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: I really like that.

998
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 3: I adore that song.

999
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: That's just what I could go.

1000
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: I haven't listened to that in a long time. Yeah,

1001
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: that's a real rock solid pick. Yes, least favorite.

1002
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 4: Song, least fit. What would you just.

1003
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: Say is the worst song ever made? This is a

1004
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 3: question I love to ask.

1005
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 4: Oh man, a worst song? The worst song ever made?

1006
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: I have a whole playlist, if you'd like some suggestions.

1007
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 4: I would love some suggestions.

1008
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: Okay, well I'll tell you My least favorite song ever

1009
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 3: is Red red Wine by Ub forty. It's a cover

1010
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 3: of Red red Wine. Have you heard this?

1011
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 5: No?

1012
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: I hope you never have to hear this piece of music.

1013
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: It is excruciating agony, Red red Wine, absolute agony. To

1014
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: listen to. Life is a highway.

1015
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 4: Oh, that is really bad.

1016
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 3: That one's rough to hear.

1017
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 4: That is really bad.

1018
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: Let's see how do I find this? It's in my Spotify?

1019
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: Was I made it a long time ago?

1020
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 4: Isn't Life is a highway? Kind of like funny?

1021
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 3: No, it just sucks. Here's some others, Jack and Diane.

1022
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: You know this song by John Mellencamp. Oh, yes, that

1023
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: is any song where it's kind of like phony Americana.

1024
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 3: I can't get into it. Are You Gonna Be My Girl?

1025
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: By Jet?

1026
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: Oh?

1027
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: You hate that?

1028
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: That is an old Navy commercial. Bad to the bone.

1029
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: No one has ever liked that song. Taken care of business,

1030
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 3: hate it. Who's that by Bachman Turner Overdrive?

1031
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

1032
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 4: I don't know that one.

1033
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sing it. I'm not going to subject anybody.

1034
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 3: Even if I could sing, well, I wouldn't subject anybody

1035
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: that song. Imagine Dragon's Believer. Oh, hate it, Born to

1036
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: be Wild, hate it old time rock and roll, hate it? Wow, Hotel, California.

1037
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry you hate that one. Hate it? I mean,

1038
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: this is eighty five songs long. Wow. So those are

1039
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: a few. Anyone can look this up. It's called the

1040
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 3: absolute worst songs on Spotify Uptown Funk. Of course that's

1041
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 3: an easy target. Now have I been able to Is

1042
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: your mind working here with the worst music ever? I

1043
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 3: would yes, yes, okay, And what would you say?

1044
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 5: I feel like there are a couple of one Republic songs.

1045
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, let's just say that whole catalog, that

1046
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: whole Republic don't reach out.

1047
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I.

1048
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 5: Really don't like that one. There are a few songs

1049
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 5: on the radio that I but I can't.

1050
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 4: I don't know. I never invest the time to know

1051
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 4: who who sings them.

1052
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: You know, I will say, at least as far as

1053
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: songs on the radio goes, songs by men are overwhelmingly

1054
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 3: worse than the ones sung by women. Yes, pop music

1055
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 3: sung by men is almost always uniformly terrible, but women

1056
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: are able to do good pop music. Yes, I'm like,

1057
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 3: what's a pop singer? Aren't male pop singer? Who's good?

1058
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 3: Can we name one we might be able to Yeah,

1059
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: we're all drawing a blank. Yeah, simply nobody comes to mind.

1060
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: I'm not getting any.

1061
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think I've made my point. But the

1062
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: other I was going through this list, I was thinking,

1063
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 3: this is just like a radio station.

1064
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 4: This is jack fam exactly.

1065
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: This is something someone would put on in an a

1066
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: dentist's office, yeah, and be like this is this will do?

1067
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like i've do you remember that band

1068
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 5: the Lumineers.

1069
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 3: Do I know that band the Lumineers. How about ho

1070
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: Hey by the Lumineers. That's right, yeah, Oh that's a

1071
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: whole sound. Yeah, that's a whole sound. And there are

1072
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: other bands. I mean, people get really sensitive about their

1073
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 3: favorite types of music when they get mad when I'm

1074
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: talking about how horrible it is, But the Luminaers are awful.

1075
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: It's just not There was like.

1076
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 3: From twenty ten to fourteen, there was the Big O

1077
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: music with.

1078
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 5: Band boards and yeah, oh killing instrument which is like.

1079
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 5: As a lover of folk slash, I even love like

1080
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 5: honky Tonk. There are so many good kinds of that stuff.

1081
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 3: This is the awful verse.

1082
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 4: This is like And of course that was popular.

1083
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 3: Oh yes, you know it was inescapable for a while. Yeah,

1084
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 3: the Lumineers. There was the British guys at the band sho.

1085
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: I can never remember their name, uh.

1086
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 4: Not Mumford and Son.

1087
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: Mumford and Son.

1088
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 4: That's the one.

1089
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, look, everyone's got their thing. But it's horrible,

1090
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 3: it's absolutely awful. At least you have a least favorite song.

1091
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: Serre. When you were listing all of those songs in

1092
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 2: that playlist, huh, I agreed with every single one except

1093
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: for the Jet song.

1094
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: I will get behind that because that's catchy. Okay, it

1095
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 4: is catchy fun.

1096
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: Also, I have memories of Kate Winslet dancing to it

1097
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: in The Holiday, which is the favorite Nancy Meyers film.

1098
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 4: But Holiday, Yeah, that's my favorite.

1099
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: Oh I haven't even seen the movie. Maybe this will

1100
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 3: change my mind on Jet. It won't, but.

1101
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 4: The Holidays of great movie.

1102
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: Jet was one of those bands that came at the

1103
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 3: end of that period of like the garage rock revival

1104
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: of good music. And then they were like, we're getting

1105
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 3: on this, We're gonna make it horrible. Yeah, let's go boys,

1106
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: and they ruined it. They really killed Yeah. But I

1107
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 3: could talk about my least favorite music all day and

1108
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 3: just alienate every person on earth. People get so mad

1109
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: about music. But let's just name him three more American

1110
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: Pie by Don McLean, that song, Oh, let's see here

1111
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 3: my humps of course, black Eyed.

1112
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 4: Peace, Oh my god, you don't like that song.

1113
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 3: And then let's go with let's see here. Oh boy,

1114
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: there's so many bad songs in the world. Let's see here,

1115
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: Youth of the Nation pod. Do you know this song?

1116
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: I do.

1117
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 3: That's a bad one. That's a that's an early thousands

1118
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: like new metal song, which I in my opinion, the

1119
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 3: early thousands are the absolute bottoming out of music. When

1120
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 3: that sort of song was able to be top of

1121
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 3: the charts.

1122
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 4: Wow, it was.

1123
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: It was like that Woodstock ninety nine, just the worst

1124
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: of the worst. What are we doing? Culture? And we

1125
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 3: made it out.

1126
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 4: I'm so glad we did.

1127
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: But I occasionally see people towing the line with nostalgia

1128
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 3: for that, and I think don't go back.

1129
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm cute. I'm cue is Nickelback on there?

1130
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 3: I'm sure they are.

1131
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 5: I'm sure there's a New Yorker piece about why everyone

1132
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 5: hates Nickelback so much.

1133
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 3: There must be, right, But I don't mind them.

1134
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 5: I don't mind them all that much. They weren't as

1135
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 5: offensive as interesting as the lore.

1136
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: I wonder. I don't think they're as excruciating as some

1137
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: of the stuff here. I think that probably at the time,

1138
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 3: they were played so much and it was so just

1139
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 3: generic pearl Jam ripoffs sort of thing that people are

1140
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: just like, what is this trash? And they were right

1141
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 3: there with Creed, so it was like a double you

1142
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 3: know attack. I feel like we were just talking about

1143
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: them on this podcast, maybe with Joe Castle Baker. Yeah,

1144
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: was he talking about liking Nickelback or are you talking

1145
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 3: about liking Creed?

1146
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

1147
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 4: Wow?

1148
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 5: Okay, well I can't. For the record, I am not

1149
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 5: a Nickelback fan. I am simply a curious.

1150
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 3: You're doing a full covers album, could you imagine? I

1151
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 3: mean I think that there. I think that things really

1152
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: turned around for the worst for them. Everyone turned when

1153
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 3: they did the look at this photograph and like the

1154
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 3: music video is literally him showing a photograph and people

1155
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 3: were like, well, this is okay, it is stupid, we

1156
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: get it.

1157
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 4: It's not artful.

1158
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: It's no longer artful. Nickelback is no longer tasteful. Okay,

1159
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: should we talk about either of these anymore?

1160
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 4: I mean we've seen it.

1161
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: Everybody seek out Vagabond's music. I'm telling you you're in

1162
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: for a treat. Okay. Now we're pulling out the final item.

1163
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 3: Oh and this is a new sound that I don't

1164
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 3: think we've right. This could almost be a limit.

1165
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 4: It's a lot of texture.

1166
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: Okay. Oh oh, I am thrilled about this. It's a

1167
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 3: dye kit. Just yesterday I went to take a two

1168
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 3: pieces of clothing to be dyed at this community die

1169
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: bath called Sway, and I was thinking, on the way,

1170
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: I should look up how to dye things. I bet

1171
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: it's not that difficult.

1172
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Well that's perfect.

1173
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: What is happening?

1174
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 4: This is great?

1175
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 5: I mean you should, I mean continue to support the

1176
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 5: local place. I mean you could dye candles.

1177
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 3: You can dye candles.

1178
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 4: Oh, how does that work? Like beeswax candles?

1179
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: You just.

1180
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: I don't even understand.

1181
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can create like a gradient almost like this

1182
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 5: and like die them.

1183
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 4: Oh that sounds great. Yeah?

1184
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 3: And is this is this a tide kit or is

1185
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 3: it multiple colors?

1186
00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 4: It's a it's a dye kit.

1187
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: It okay, yeah, see here, I'm not open it because

1188
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 3: I want to see do easy open? Oh I'm this

1189
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: is the color gold and yellow that I was going

1190
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 3: to do my shirts. Oh my god, and I'm gonna

1191
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 3: I feel like, what do I do? I just get

1192
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 3: a bucket of water, basically dump the sin in the backyard. Yes,

1193
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 3: not to wear I would ruin my house. And then

1194
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 3: how long do I have to put the piece of

1195
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 3: clothing in there?

1196
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: That is a really good question.

1197
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,959
Speaker 5: I kind of just eyeball it and I get it wrong,

1198
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 5: But that's kind of the fun of it, right, that's

1199
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 5: the perfection of exactly no precision, right, except don't get

1200
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 5: it everywhere?

1201
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 3: And I should put some gloves on.

1202
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 4: Put gloves on.

1203
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 3: And how long total would this little project take me?

1204
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 5: Well, including the waiting, yes, probably twenty four hours?

1205
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 3: Twenty four hours. And now here's a question. I have

1206
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: a lot of raccoons coming through the yard, Okay, So

1207
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 3: should I put it in the bucket and then put

1208
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 3: it in a secure place.

1209
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 4: I feel like they would be the church. The smells.

1210
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, okay, I these raccoons. If

1211
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 3: anything that they will bring straws.

1212
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 4: Maybe you get one of those buckets that have lids.

1213
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a bucket with a lid. Yeah, now this

1214
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 3: is something I haven't considered. And maybe I'll look into that.

1215
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: Or I think I'm just going to find a secure

1216
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 3: place away from the raccoons and they won't be able

1217
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: to get to it. Yeah, this is going to change

1218
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: my life.

1219
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what you make.

1220
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 3: I've got so many shirts and clothing that require dyeing,

1221
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: and these are all colors that work with my complexion. Yes,

1222
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 3: if you had brought a red I would have had

1223
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 3: to say, this isn't going to work for me. It

1224
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: makes me look sick.

1225
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 4: Do you die? Do you dye them all different colors

1226
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 4: or just one?

1227
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 3: I usually like a nice, solid one colory.

1228
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 4: So how come you don't purchase the thing and the

1229
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 4: color you desire?

1230
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 3: Well, because usually what I like to do is I'll

1231
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 3: have a shirt and I'm like, well, I love the

1232
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 3: shirt so much, but it's time as this color is over,

1233
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: and you know I'm trying. Yeah, most of the time.

1234
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 3: But to you know, reuse clothing. Yes, and so if

1235
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 3: I have a shirt that I really liked and it

1236
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 3: feels just tired or whatever, I'm like, it's time for

1237
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: you to be resurrected. That's great, It's great. This dye

1238
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: place has completely changed everything.

1239
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 4: I'm not considered that and now I'm.

1240
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 3: Basically pirrating from them. They're not going to see another

1241
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: sent for me.

1242
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 4: They won't be They'll be like, wow, it's been a while.

1243
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: Now everybody s u a Y go to Sway Die Shop.

1244
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 3: They're great. They should give me a discount. They should

1245
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 3: reach out to.

1246
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 4: Me because now I want to go there. You should.

1247
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 3: And they also make really cool clothes. See all out

1248
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: of recycled clothing. Wow, phenomenal.

1249
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 4: I love that.

1250
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 3: But you just so explain why you brought this.

1251
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 4: The everything, the dye kit.

1252
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 5: Well, I had an extra one, and I just think

1253
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 5: crafting is a good way to spend time. You know,

1254
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 5: I hadn't really tapped into like my sense of play

1255
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 5: or doing any thing besides music.

1256
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 3: I know how you feel. I didn't even have music.

1257
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 5: It's I mean, I really it's like, I was like, Okay,

1258
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 5: this can't be my entire identity, Like, I need to

1259
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 5: have other things that I do and.

1260
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 4: Get excited about.

1261
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 5: And so I tried a few different things, and dying

1262
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 5: was something I got really into.

1263
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 3: What have you been dying?

1264
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 4: Candles?

1265
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: Strictly candles, no clothing.

1266
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've done like kitchen napkins before, which is nice

1267
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 5: and nice gift. I will buy like linen, kitchen napkins

1268
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 5: or something and then die though, and that feels really special.

1269
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: Right, very custom.

1270
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't done like clothing, mostly like tablecloths and

1271
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 5: and yeah, exactly, I'm doing strictly clothing. Yeah, well that's

1272
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 5: that's I think that's probably it's intended.

1273
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 3: I mean, who do you have any pictures of the candles?

1274
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 4: Oh? I don't? Okay, really should that you've done it?

1275
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 4: It's true, it's true. How could anyone know?

1276
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: Finally we get to the bottom of this. You being

1277
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 3: a huge liar. I've exposed you fraud. Well, I'm thrilled

1278
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: about this. The listener will have to keep an eye

1279
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: out for some dyeed clothing. Everybody look at Instagram. My

1280
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 3: clothes are gonna be all sorts of colors. Anytime something

1281
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 3: looks bad on me from now on, that'll probably be

1282
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 3: something I made, so keep an eye out for that.

1283
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: But I'm going to do a yellow first, probably maybe

1284
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 3: even today. Just get into it.

1285
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 4: Do you keep all of all of the things you.

1286
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 3: Oh giving away? Yeah, none of them until just recently

1287
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: we did our first live show and I gave away

1288
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 3: some of the gifts.

1289
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 4: Nice.

1290
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 3: And we're doing this live show in New York October

1291
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 3: thirteenth at the Bellhouse. Everybody buy tickets where we'll be

1292
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: giving away some more gifts. I'm trying to slowly get

1293
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 3: rid of stuff.

1294
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can imagine you need. A lot of Your

1295
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 4: house is just full.

1296
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: It's so much of it is worthless. So much of

1297
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: it is I mean, no apologies to anyone, it's crap.

1298
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: There are a few meaningful items, a few useful items,

1299
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 3: and then my home is just you know, you just

1300
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 3: picture a landfill, a dump. That's my house at this point.

1301
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 4: You live amongst it all.

1302
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm just crawling over seas of garbage. But none

1303
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 3: of this qualifies for that You've given a very thoughtful,

1304
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,959
Speaker 3: thoughtful gift. Oh, I think it's time to play a game.

1305
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

1306
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 3: Let's play gift or a curse. Okay, I need a

1307
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: number from one or ten from you? What did I say?

1308
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 3: I need a number between I need a number between

1309
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 3: one and ten from you.

1310
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 4: I will choose five.

1311
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to do some light calculating. So right

1312
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 3: now you can recommend, promote, do whatever you want.

1313
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 4: I'll be right back. Okay.

1314
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 5: Recommending, I definitely recommend you listen to Majesty Crush, and

1315
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 5: I recommend the All Time Cookbook if you like cooking.

1316
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 5: I recommend my third album, Sorry I Haven't Called, which

1317
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 5: is out now on none such records, and you can

1318
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 5: listen to that. You can listen to the previous two albums,

1319
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 5: because I have three in the singles world. I am

1320
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 5: on my third album.

1321
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 3: Okay, that's it, beautiful again, everyone go listen to vagabon

1322
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: full albums.

1323
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 4: Full albums.

1324
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 3: Start with the most recent albums. Listen all the way

1325
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 3: through multiple times, and then you'll be ready to go

1326
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 3: on to a new album.

1327
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 4: Perfect.

1328
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 3: Train yourself to have some level of paying attention. Yes,

1329
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 3: let's have an attention span for ten minutes. This is

1330
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 3: how we play gift or a curse. Okay, I'm gonna

1331
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 3: name three things. You're gonna tell me if there are

1332
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 3: a gift or a curse and why, and then I'll

1333
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 3: tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are

1334
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 3: correct answers. Am I perfectly clear?

1335
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 4: You are okay?

1336
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 3: This first one is from a listener named Kylie. Kylie

1337
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 3: suggested curse hosting a dinner party and all the guests

1338
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: leave their leftovers with you?

1339
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 5: What curse? What all of the guests leave their leftovers?

1340
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 5: That is a curse. I don't have the fridge space

1341
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 5: I don't want. I love leftovers, but I don't want

1342
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 5: the influx of leftovers and my fridge. Then I have

1343
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 5: to get rid of them because I can only eat

1344
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 5: so much. I don't even understand why anyone would do that.

1345
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 5: I'm going to go with curse.

1346
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 3: Final answer, Oh, it's a curse. You're right. You know,

1347
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 3: while you're talking, I thought, is this a gift? It's not.

1348
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 3: It's a horrible feeling to yes. I mean, we've just

1349
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 3: talked about my home being a dump, but it's all

1350
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: the lengths of my home being a dump can only

1351
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: go so far. Do not leave your disgusting food at

1352
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: my house?

1353
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 4: Why would that?

1354
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 3: I can't eat through this avalanche of weird to hodgepodge

1355
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 3: your foods? No, you didn't want them? Exactly put them

1356
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 3: in your dish and take them home or throw them away,

1357
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 3: or take them and give them away. But I don't

1358
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: want them growing mold in my fridge.

1359
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 4: And why would anyone do that.

1360
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 3: I think it happens more often than we like to think.

1361
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 4: Really, that is inconsiderate.

1362
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an epidemic and people have got to stop

1363
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 3: doing it. It's inconsiderate. So it's an absolute curse. Okay.

1364
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 3: Number two, This is from a listener names Shannon. Gift

1365
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 3: to a curse doctor's office. Is texting slash emailing you

1366
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 3: on your birthday?

1367
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 5: Oh okay, Wow. This requires a bit of thought. This

1368
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 5: because I've had some really rough birthdays where you know

1369
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 5: that email coming in felt really good, but really really

1370
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 5: good to be thought of. No, I think that it is.

1371
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 5: I think it's a curse. Ultimately, I don't need another text.

1372
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 5: I am one of those people with like two hundred

1373
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 5: text messages. I don't need another text. I probably haven't

1374
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 5: seen that doctor in a long time. I know they

1375
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 5: don't really care about me, and it just crowds up everything.

1376
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with a curse.

1377
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 3: Oh wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, it's a gift.

1378
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 4: I blew it.

1379
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't received one from my newest dentist,

1380
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 3: doctor Gamboa, so I can't speak to that. That'll be

1381
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 3: coming up soon and we'll see if she even sends

1382
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 3: me one. But I love to hear from the team

1383
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 3: at the doctor's office. I love to get They usually

1384
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 3: send some sort of terrible emoji, or if you're really lucky,

1385
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 3: a bit moji wow that you know they found in

1386
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen and are still kind of recycling. I love

1387
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 3: to hear from doctor's offices. I love to hear from

1388
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 3: the dermatologist. Everybody really make me the king of the day.

1389
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: Send me emails, send me text I don't care who's

1390
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 3: wishing me a happy birthday as long as I'm getting attention. Wow,

1391
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 3: it's a gift.

1392
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 4: Should have gone for my first handswer.

1393
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 3: I know you had a I mean a sad reason

1394
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 3: into it. I mean, if the only person you hear

1395
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 3: from on your birthday is or doctor, it sounds like

1396
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 3: you're maybe you're doing something to the people in your life.

1397
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, something's wrong.

1398
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: But then maybe make a friend with your doctor. It

1399
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 3: checks back, Thank you so much. Can we get dinner?

1400
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 4: But then do you delete them? Do you answer?

1401
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 3: Well, that remains to be seen. Okay, so you've gotten

1402
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 3: one out of two so far. Final one is from

1403
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 3: someone named Amanda Gift or a curse fast food places

1404
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 3: that ask for your name when you order and use

1405
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 3: it when they hand you your food.

1406
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 5: I am gonna go with curse on that one. I'm

1407
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 5: actually pretty firm on this being a curse. My I'm

1408
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 5: curious how you feel.

1409
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 4: My name is.

1410
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 5: Letitia, and it so often mispronounced and in just atrocious

1411
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 5: ways that make me question my whole identity. And sometimes

1412
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 5: I give like a fake name, but then that makes

1413
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 5: me feel like I'm not being myself. And so I'm

1414
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 5: gonna go with curse. I rather have a number than

1415
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 5: a name.

1416
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 3: You're right, thank God, And we do need to have

1417
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 3: a discussion about this because I have questions for you.

1418
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

1419
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 3: It's a curse coming from someone who worked at a

1420
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 3: cafe bakery where they demanded that we take everyone's name,

1421
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 3: and then you would have to go out into the

1422
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 3: place yelling the person's name, and no one ever responded

1423
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 3: to the name. People respond to a number. That's what

1424
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 3: they want to hear. Names get lost in the noise.

1425
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear a stranger yelling my name.

1426
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 3: Mind your own business. Yeah, and then again we get

1427
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 3: to our names being difficult. I give a fake name too, Yeah,

1428
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: what are what's the fake name you give?

1429
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 4: I give L?

1430
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I give Eric?

1431
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 4: Wow?

1432
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 3: What you get for L? What?

1433
01:07:59,320 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: I like?

1434
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 3: Do you ever to where they're like? Say that again?

1435
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 3: And you're like, okay, well now I don't know what

1436
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 3: to tell you.

1437
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, they're onto me.

1438
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 5: They know God, but I but I ended when they

1439
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 5: say say it again, I actually spell E L L

1440
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 5: E what I really mean? It's just the letter out right,

1441
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 5: but it works out. There aren't a lot of people

1442
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 5: named L of course, right, they're not shouting out L

1443
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 5: a lot. But why did you choose Eric?

1444
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 3: It's my middle name? Okay, but I again, I'll say

1445
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 3: Eric and I run into other problems. Erin is that

1446
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 3: with a? K? Is that with them? I'm lying to you,

1447
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 3: it's not my don't direct me further into this web

1448
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:36,879
Speaker 3: of flies.

1449
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 5: Uh?

1450
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 3: So I I met a complete lose lose. I think

1451
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: I just need to think of the what's a name

1452
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,440
Speaker 3: that people cannot miss? Matt?

1453
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 4: But then there are so many.

1454
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but at least the person i'm telling will know

1455
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 3: that's true, Tammy.

1456
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 5: I don't know if they'll believe that one.

1457
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to give it a shot.

1458
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 4: You should.

1459
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 3: You're not going to stop me.

1460
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 5: I think generally it's not nice to hear my name

1461
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 5: being shouted.

1462
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like you're in trouble.

1463
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 4: Like something weird, a weird physical place.

1464
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and I think every one of these places there,

1465
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 3: I'm sure the manager psychology is. It's like it gives

1466
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 3: a personal touch, you know, it doesn't. It just bothers everybody.

1467
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,560
Speaker 4: Some of us want to be anonymous.

1468
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,759
Speaker 3: We all want a little bit of privacy.

1469
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't don't even I don't even want to

1470
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 5: talk at the register. So I would prefer to communicating

1471
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 5: in a silent way.

1472
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't ask for my name. You're not getting it.

1473
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 3: You're getting Tammy. Well, you got two out of three.

1474
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 4: That's not bad noting that.

1475
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 3: Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. It's

1476
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 3: called I said no emails. People write into I said

1477
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 3: no gifts at gmail dot com begging for answers. Will

1478
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 3: you help me answer a question? Yes, all right, let's

1479
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 3: get any here, let's do it. This is dearest gracious host. Okay,

1480
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 3: layoff and ungrateful guest. My friend's son is my godson. Okay,

1481
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 3: we're already dealing with family math here. My friend's son

1482
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 3: is my godson, but her nephew is the same age,

1483
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 3: and so they have joint birthday parties. I want to

1484
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 3: spoil my godson because he's my favorite, but I always

1485
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 3: feel I have to get something of equal coolness for

1486
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 3: his cousin as well. For example, I got my godson

1487
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 3: a Leapfrog electronic book, the old school kind and a

1488
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 3: Constellation projector because he loves space. I really don't want

1489
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 3: to spend a ton on his cousin, but need ideas

1490
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 3: of what to get him. They're both turning three and

1491
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 3: enjoy building, toy stories, swimming, and gummy bears. Also, how

1492
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 3: long do I have to keep this up? For my

1493
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 3: friend just had a second boy, and I'm going to

1494
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 3: go broke trying to make everything even. Please help me, Rebecca.

1495
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 3: What does Rebecca do with? She has some amount of

1496
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 3: boys in her life. I can't tell exactly, sons and

1497
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 3: sons and nephews and cousins. And there's at least two boys,

1498
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 3: and there's one that has to be given a gift

1499
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 3: that she doesn't care about.

1500
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 5: Right right, there's one that neat that has a lower

1501
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 5: right okay, okay.

1502
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 3: Get him a potato be you don't care about him.

1503
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 4: And arrusted potato.

1504
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, potato, just something you know it's from the bottom

1505
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,759
Speaker 3: of that bag, and get slightly green. Some rocks, rocks

1506
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: a turn up.

1507
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 4: They could build something with rocks.

1508
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 3: Something you found on the grass outside their house walking

1509
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 3: in there. So that's just immediately off the top of

1510
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 3: our heads. Yeah, a three year old would love any

1511
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 3: of those gifts.

1512
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hm, I'm curious about why.

1513
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 3: I am too. Who cares about this three year old's

1514
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 3: opinion of you? Tell him to get lost? I mean,

1515
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 3: just spoil the other kid. I mean, really, the feeling

1516
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 3: she should be gunning for here is making the cousin

1517
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 3: mad at her or jealous. That's a more exciting feeling

1518
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 3: to have somebody feel about you with them, they're kind

1519
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 3: of happy.

1520
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 4: Why would the godson? There are a lot of.

1521
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 3: Uh I'm not wrong, am I? That there are so

1522
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 3: many sons and godsons and cousins and nephews.

1523
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm unclear about what position each holds. But but

1524
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 5: I but I think that they should both have this

1525
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 5: equally cool gifts.

1526
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so now you're wrong. No, no, no, She

1527
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 3: the godson, who I believe is the favorite of hers,

1528
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 3: should be given god the favorite thousands of dollars worth

1529
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 3: of gifts. And then the other one opens a bag

1530
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,560
Speaker 3: to some sort of rotting vegetable.

1531
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 4: Rocks or rocks that can taint that three year old.

1532
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 3: Right, but we don't care. We don't care, we don't care.

1533
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 3: I have no investment in either of these. I mean

1534
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 3: these hundreds of three year old's lives. It's Rebecca that's

1535
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 3: in the mud here. She's got to figure out what

1536
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 3: to do with all of this. And I say, just

1537
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 3: spoil and offend. Yes, that's a good strategy going to

1538
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 3: a bad day party.

1539
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 4: It's not bad, I think is cool rocks?

1540
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he like, it's kind of a nothing gift. But

1541
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 3: he if he has an imagination, he's worth anything. And

1542
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Speaker 3: he's three, like, he'll make something he can make a.

1543
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 4: Weapon to use against her.

1544
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 3: Against her, She walks out in her windshields busted.

1545
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 4: She's created a monster.

1546
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 3: And don't we all at the end of the day,

1547
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 3: I want to create a monster true to be able

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01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 3: to say I created a monster.

1549
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 5: It's a pretty powerful position, beaudiful, it's a very powerful

1550
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 5: what a legacy?

1551
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I is that your real advice?

1552
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 3: That is my real advice.

1553
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1554
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 3: And now it's my real goal in twenty twenty five,

1555
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to create a monster. I don't know who

1556
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 3: or how.

1557
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 4: We don't have enough.

1558
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to find someone to mold into an absolute months.

1559
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,919
Speaker 5: Well, I think I think it's okay to spoil the favorite,

1560
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 5: but the not favorite.

1561
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 4: You just give them something that they think is cool.

1562
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 3: You trick them, right, and a three that's very easy.

1563
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 4: It's very very easy. You have a few years left.

1564
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 3: Of that right where they're kind of impressed by nearly

1565
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 3: any anything, anything, a lollipop you got at the bank, exactly,

1566
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 3: free pen. Yeah, they really if they open as gift

1567
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 3: and there's something scissors, if they open the gift there's

1568
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 3: something in there, they'll be impressed, exactly. Or I mean

1569
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 3: that's the other thing. With a three year old, you

1570
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 3: could get them something cool and they won't be impressed.

1571
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 3: So it's such a gamble anyway, Yeah, don't go broke

1572
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 3: doing do not invest in a child for a three

1573
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 3: year old. That's my advice, don't invite, don't invest.

1574
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 4: In children, they won't remember.

1575
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 3: They're a waste. Well, I think we answered this perfectly, Rebecca.

1576
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 3: If you don't taken my advice, there's going to be

1577
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 3: a huge problem for all kinds of uncounted people. You know, countless,

1578
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 3: countless people. So please heed my words, heed Latitia's words. Yes,

1579
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 3: I think she was stronger about ruining the child than

1580
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 3: I was. So don't write back in Oh, I've had

1581
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 3: such a wonderful time with you, and to my whole

1582
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 3: wardrobe is going to change.

1583
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 4: I'm so excited for you, and I am such a

1584
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 4: fan of your podcast.

1585
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 3: Reached out. I was, I was through the roof. I thought, oh,

1586
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 3: somebody who I actually like. I mean, that's not what

1587
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 3: I mean. I love all of my guests, but it's

1588
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 3: fun when a musician who I respect and appreciate wants

1589
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:48,839
Speaker 3: to be involved.

1590
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, I listen. I am a true fan.

1591
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 3: That's very sorry, that's very sorry. If the lumineers reached out,

1592
01:15:56,040 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 3: they're not getting on the podcast. Sorry, imagine dragons, you're

1593
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 3: not getting on the podcast. I don't care how many

1594
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 3: emails you sent. Thank you for being here.

1595
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 4: Thank you, and thanks for having me in your beautiful home.

1596
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 3: Anytime back here, any post earthquake time. You're safe here.

1597
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 4: It's nice to be coming down from the earthquake.

1598
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a nice earthquake come down.

1599
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 3: I feel at ease too. Listener. I hope you're not

1601
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 3: currently in the middle of an earthquake and freaking out

1602
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 3: and screaming and looking for a table. That would be horrible.

1603
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 3: But if you are, the podcast is over, so now

1604
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 3: you can get under the table. I love you, goodbye,

1605
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 3: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

1606
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: produced by our dear friend Analise Nilson, and it's beautifully

1607
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 3: mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without

1608
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 3: our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course,

1609
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 3: could only come from miracle worker Amy Man. You must

1610
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 3: follow the show on instae Graham at I said, no Gifts.

1611
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you

1612
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 3: get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting,

1613
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 3: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts?

1614
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 4: But I invited you hear.

1615
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 1: Thought. I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest

1616
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: to my home. You gotta come to me empty, And

1617
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: I said, no gifts, You're o presences, presents enough. I

1618
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: already had too much stuff.

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01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,560
Speaker 4: So how do you dare to surbey me?