1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's been a great week for the United States of America. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: As President Trump said at his inauguration, it was liberation Day. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: We've been liberated from the past. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Four years, this nightmare that we have been living through, 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: the reaponization of government, just the anti American sentiment that 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: has swept the nation with the left, the lack of 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: common sense, the chaos around the world, the invasion at 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: the southern border. 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: Finally we have a break. We have relief from it all. 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: We have President Donald Trump in office now and we'll 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: have an exciting next four years. And we've already seen 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: the reprioritization of actually focusing on real problems in America, 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: even just this week with President Trump hitting the round running. 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: We've seen it in the slew of. 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: Executive orders that he's issued, the focal points that he's 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: moving forward with. So we are entering in we have 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: a different country already and it's only been a week. 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: So we're going to talk. 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: To someone who we often tend to to really look 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: at the big picture, to give us some stage wisdom 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: of what it all means, what it means for the country, 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: what we can expect for the next one hundred days, 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: the next four years. And also as we've sort of 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: seen this sea change culturally, you know, the vibe shifts, 25 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: as you could say, as the kids say, these days, 26 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, we see these athletes do the YMCA, the 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 1: Trump Dance. We saw Carrie Ottawood sing at the inauguration, 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: which by the way, she did such a beautiful job. 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: We saw these tech CEO's visiting, right, we saw a 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: soup dog performing. So there's definitely been a cultural shift 31 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: as well. So what does that mean for the country? 32 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: Can President Trump use that to his advantage? So many 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: issues to get to big picture with the one and only, 34 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: the great Victor Davis Hansen, Victor, it's always an honor 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: to have you on this show. 36 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: You always just offer. 37 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Such wisdom and like just really excellent insight. So I'm 38 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: just I'm looking forward to hearing what you have to 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: say about these next four years. And we also haven't 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: touch base since the election and. 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: What's kind of started from there. 42 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: I guess you know, why do you think he won 43 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: and what does that mean for the country. 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of reasons that he won very quickly. 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: First of all, in that interim period between two thousand 46 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: and twenty one, in the present. People had actually seen 47 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: Joe Biden in action, and it wasn't just as cognitive disability, 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 4: but he was sort of a waxen effigy who was 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: being i think used as a veneer and old Joe 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: Biden from Scranton who went on unity and moderation. But 51 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: it was really the hardest left agenda that was imposed 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 4: on the border, on crime overseas, on inflation that we'd 53 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: ever seen really in our lifetime, and people got sick 54 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: of being lectured to and lied to. The border is secure, 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 4: there's no crime wave. Inflation is two percent. We inherited 56 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: nine percent. They just did. They got tired of it. 57 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: So that really helped Donald Trump. It was much what 58 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: I'm getting at is was a much more disastrous tenure 59 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: than Obama's when Trump ran against Obama record his successor 60 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: in twenty sixteen campaign. The other thing was Trump had 61 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: a lot better people around him. Susan Wilds and others 62 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 4: were a lot more disciplined than either twenty sixteen. Some 63 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: of them were carried over from twenty twenty, but he 64 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 4: ran a much better campaign. The third thing is he 65 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 4: in a very brilliant fashion. He was ecamenical, He was 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 4: able this time to make it acceptable to say to 67 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 4: wear a Maga hat or to be in a liberal 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: venue and be for Trump. And that was partly because 69 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: he had this kind of menagerie of Elon Musk and 70 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 4: five ak Ramaswami and then all of the tech lords 71 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: during Andreessen and Bezos Zuperberg, and then he had Rfk 72 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: Tulsa avert than he had a lot of people from 73 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: popular culture. Athletes snooped all of these people. So it 74 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: was quite different. And then I think also in a 75 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: weird way he benefited almost it was almost I don't 76 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: want to say this, but it was almost better that 77 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: he had to go through that four year period because 78 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: it not only gave us a vision of the alternative 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: in Biden, but more importantly, it showed us that he 80 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 4: had an indomitable spirit that people had not appreciated before. 81 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: So when they tried to take him off the ballot 82 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 4: of sixteen states, when they impeached him as a private citizen, 83 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: as impeached him twice and then tried him as a 84 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: private citizen, the two s assassination attempts, the ninety one 85 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: felony indictments, and forge everybody each time they did it, 86 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: he got more and more empathetic, and there was kind 87 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: of a I'm not saying he was resigned to that antipathy, 88 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 4: but when he did things like the mcdonald' stunt or 89 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: the garbage trucket showed you that they not only couldn't 90 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: destroy him, they couldn't sideline him, but they couldn't turn 91 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: him bitter. He was still upbeat in a way that 92 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 4: you hadn't really seen before. 93 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: You know, we go back to the night of Butler 94 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and when he survived the assassination attempt. How big 95 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: of an impact do you think that had on the election? 96 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: I think Americans had felt pretty beat up by the 97 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 1: last four years. 98 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: We had felt. 99 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Diminished on the world stage. We have sort of lost 100 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: her spirit as Americans. And to me, the way that 101 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: he responded to it and the standing up and the 102 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: cheering of the USA and the fight, fight, fight, I think. 103 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 3: That that probably won him the election. 104 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: But what do you think, like, how big of a 105 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: moment was that for the country and then also for 106 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: his candidacy. 107 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 4: It was very big. There were four or five of 108 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 4: those moments, and that was the most crucial, as you say, 109 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 4: because no one knows how it's person will react when 110 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: they're close to death. But his immediate reaction was defiance, 111 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: and there was blood and people. And when he put 112 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: that fist up and said fight, fight, fight, even Mark 113 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: Zuckerberg remarked on that, and that kind of set the 114 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: stage that he was larger in life. And then, you know, 115 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: I think we should remember that the forces that were 116 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: arrayed against him, I think were even larger than the 117 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: two prior elections. He was outspent by a billion dollars 118 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: if you combine the Biden and Harris war chest. He 119 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: had all of the legacy media against the moderators were 120 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: shameless both in the presidential and vice presidential debate to 121 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 4: try to swing it to them. And in addition to that, 122 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: Joe Biden was doing things as president. He'd done that 123 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: all the time before the midterms. He was draining the 124 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: strategic petroleum reserve, he was forgiving student debt, he was 125 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: giving pardons to marijuana, and he did that the entire time, 126 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: all the way up to when he left. So the 127 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: government was weaponized in a way that we hadn't really seen. 128 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: And yet he overcame the media, the government, the money, 129 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: the types of media that he used I always thought 130 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: that the Left were the masters of high tech and 131 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: fad and the latest developments. But when you look at 132 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 4: those internet influences who were young, or Joe Rogan or 133 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 4: the people he was able to get on podcasts, he 134 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: really outdid Harris and Biden in that way, and that 135 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: was a big surprise to most people. 136 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: You talk about the weaponization, I mean, we've been through 137 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: sort of four years of hell as a country of 138 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 1: really just you know, morphing into a country that's unrecognizable, 139 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: that's sort of the antithesis of America. You know, we 140 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: sort of lost sight of who we are as a country. 141 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: What should he do about that weaponization? Should he seek 142 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: retribute or how do we course correct or is it 143 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: possible to course correct for her weaponization. 144 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 4: It's a hard question because part of it is moot. 145 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: Because General Millie, who I think could have been charged 146 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: for breaking the chain of command by you know, telling 147 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: the theater commanders to report to Austin or his count, 148 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 4: contacting his military counterparton and the People's Liberation Army, or 149 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: violating Article Idy eight of not you're not supposed to 150 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: disparage or publicly insult the command. There were all kinds 151 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: of things he did. Liz Cheney coached a witness without 152 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: her lawyer. That's, you know, witness tampering. Some of the 153 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 4: records were missing. But when they had those blanket pardons, 154 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: I know they can't put they can't rely on the 155 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 4: Fifth Amendment and you can. They're not pardon for any 156 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: future crimes after the pardon. It's only crimes that took 157 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: place we didn't know about that are But so he's 158 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 4: kind of shackled and then he kind of ran on success. 159 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: And yet how do you stop these people from doing 160 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: it again if there's no penalty, And so I get 161 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: I'm torn about it. Same thing with a Jay six. 162 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 4: I think they should have all been pardoned. I'm not 163 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: sure he should have pardoned people who physically attacked policemen. 164 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 4: There were very few of those, but just the fact 165 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: that there were a few that hit or sprayed stuff 166 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: in the eyes of policemen, it's hard to know why. 167 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 4: I don't think he should have pardon eight or ten 168 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 4: of them, maybe at the most, but the vast majority 169 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 4: should have. So this is a question of and we 170 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 4: go back to Old Testament New Testament. Do you sermon 171 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 4: on the mount turn the other cheek or is an 172 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 4: eye for an eye to stop it for deterrence, and 173 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 4: I think he's going to try to use the Congress 174 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: in a positive way where you're gonna have a lot 175 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 4: of congressional investigation to bring this stuff out and then 176 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: let the Congress issue criminal referrals if there need be, 177 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 4: and then just say, well, we didn't instigate these indictments 178 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: against their enemies, but we're getting a criminal referral. And 179 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: I think there will be criminal referrals about some because 180 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 4: you know, if you think about it, Fauci and Milli 181 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 4: and people like that, Lynch Chainey, if they come back 182 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: in to testify and they can't take the fifth and 183 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 4: they're forced to testify and they stick to their prior narratives, 184 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: they're going to perjure themselves under oath. So and they're 185 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: going to have a lot of criminal exposure that won't 186 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 4: be pardoned because it won't be a new it won't 187 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: be a previous crime that was unknown or something. It'll 188 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: be just you don't even a preventive pardon does not 189 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 4: allow a person to commit future crimes or present crimes 190 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: with impunity. So I would turn it over to the 191 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 4: Congress and see what happens. 192 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: That's a great point because it's something I've sort of 193 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: struggled with too about you know, how you what's the 194 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: best way to sort of prevent you know, this weaponization 195 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: moving forward. You'd mentioned sort of the cultural shift before. 196 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: You know, we've seen athletes do the Trump Dance, the 197 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: y m c A. You know, we saw Carrie Underwood 198 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: singing at the inauguration. We've seen all these tech CEOs 199 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: at the inauguration. You know, clearly a big cultural shift 200 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: in the country. Like what what does that mean? Like 201 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: what power is behind that and what does that mean 202 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: for his next four years as president? 203 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: Does that enable him to get more done? 204 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think that's a good question that it's a 205 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 4: two part question. It reflects this idea that he's acceptable 206 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: and he's acceptable because of what he's not. And a 207 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 4: lot of young people are starting to say, you know, 208 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: I can't buy a house, I can't afford electricity, I 209 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: can't afford gas, I can't afford a new car. If 210 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 4: I'm a young single woman in a big city, it's 211 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: not safe. So a lot of it was just kind 212 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: of saying I don't care what the status quo, peer 213 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 4: pressure is I'm going to vote for my own interest. 214 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: And then there was the second part of it is 215 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: people made it acceptable. As I said earlier, when you 216 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 4: had Joe Rogan or Danny for me, that iconic moment 217 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: was when he went into Madison Square of Garden and 218 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: I've never seen such an array of people. There was 219 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: Mike Johnson all decked out in a formal suit. There 220 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 4: was RFK, there was Tulca Gabbert, there was Kid Rock, 221 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: there was Joe Rogan, Dana White, Haul Hogan. He covered 222 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: the gamut of respectability to counterculture to former left former 223 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 4: and when people look at that and that resonated, it 224 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: was almost like, I'm going to say that I'm for Trump. 225 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: I don't know how many people. Maybe you've had that 226 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 4: experience that you knew they were for Trump, but they 227 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: were very discreet about it, or they would always talk 228 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: about his tweets or something, and now they're just openly 229 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: profess it. And I've had that happen ten or twelve 230 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 4: times with people. It's very good. The second part of 231 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 4: your question, it's going to help him a lot, I think, 232 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 4: because when you start to go into the opponent's constituencies, 233 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: it really is a telltale sign. So he took about 234 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: twenty five percent of black males, He got forty five 235 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 4: percent of the Hispanic vote in many areas. He won 236 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 4: the youth vote, but he got very close to getting majorities. 237 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 4: He got a higher level of women than he had before, 238 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 4: and so he can it's very hard to call him 239 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: out of touch with youth or racist, our sexist when 240 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 4: he did so well. And that really is not that 241 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 4: the never trumpers are influential anymore, but that really destroys 242 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: their arguments that we needed a Romney character or another 243 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 4: McCain or George H. W. Bush who was palatable to 244 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 4: every single group and wasn't divisive and divisive ets just say. 245 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 4: And Trump ended up getting much more ecumenical than any 246 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 4: of those former played by the Marcus Queensbury rules Republicans, 247 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: so that it's very important that he got people that 248 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: you wouldn't think would vote for him, like youth, and 249 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 4: then it's very hard for the Democrats to attack. And 250 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: what's their Democrats problem right now is twofold that they 251 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: have called him all these names, and then he has 252 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 4: the people in those constituencies that they say they represents, 253 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 4: whether it's Hispanics here in the San Jaquin Valley that 254 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 4: want closed borders, and they don't resonate with them. And 255 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: then the other thing is they've so abused the law 256 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 4: with pardons and law fair trying to get people off 257 00:14:54,640 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 4: the ballot to impeachments. They've made all these precedents that 258 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: if Donald Trump was to do anything to them what 259 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: they did, they have no moral ground. I think a 260 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: lot of their paranoia is that the way they think, 261 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: and you could see it with the hectoring of hec 262 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 4: Seth especially, but others in their way of thinking. If 263 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 4: I were Donald Trump and I had suffered what I 264 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: did to him, and now I were Donald Trump and 265 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: I was in power, I know what I would do 266 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: to people like myself. I would go after them. And 267 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: I don't think Donald Trump is. But they're paranoid because 268 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: they think that he would if they were in his place. 269 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: And so a lot of it's fear and paranoia on 270 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: their part. They just these nomination confirmation hearings have really 271 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 4: hurt them. I've never seen so many people unhinged and crazy, 272 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: you know, And Elon Musk saluted, what do you think 273 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 4: of that? It doesn't make any sense, especially when the 274 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 4: internet in a nanosecond is full of the Bill Clinton 275 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 4: and Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton doing the same type 276 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: of salute. Elizabeth Warren even did it, So it's I 277 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 4: don't know that they're licking their wounds right now. They're disorganized. 278 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 4: Everybody's freelancing, and the level of opposition is pathetic. I mean, 279 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: when you go after Elon for a salute, or he 280 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: didn't put his hand right on the Bible, it really 281 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: shows you that they're licking their wounds and they're not organized, 282 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 4: and I don't know how long that's going to last. 283 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: We've got more with Victor Davis Hanson in just a moment, 284 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: But first, do you want to hear some great news. 285 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: The abortion pill reversal treatment, which provides women with the 286 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: second opportunity to choose, is bringing babies back to life. 287 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: When you join forces with pre born ministries, you empower 288 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: women to reverse the curse. 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You touched on sort of the unorthodox 305 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: way that Trump goes about things, and you know he's 306 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: not a traditional Republican. He's not a traditional Republican or 307 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: not a traditional politician rather even and you know it's 308 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: interesting that he loves the Frank sinatras On my way, 309 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: because that really is like represents him, right. I mean, 310 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: he's done this entire thing from walking down the Golden 311 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: Escalator in twenty fifteen, you know, saying that other countries 312 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: aren't sending us their best to this point, he really 313 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: has just done it his way, and so it's pretty remarkable. 314 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: I guess what he has been through, what he's been 315 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: able to survive, and then to come back and win 316 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: the popular vote for the first time in twenty years 317 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: for a Republican. 318 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, no one's ever done that. I mean, we've never 319 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: seen a comeback when I was your age, just sounds stereotypical. 320 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 4: When you used to think, my gosh, Richard Nixon lost 321 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 4: and he lost in nineteen sixty he was all through 322 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 4: and then he ran for governor and he lost to 323 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 4: Pat Brown. He said, you don't have Richard Nixon to 324 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 4: kick around. And then just six years. But it was 325 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: nothing like this, Nothing like this. Nor was Bill Clinton 326 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 4: when he lost the first primary. You know, comeback kid, 327 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 4: Nothing like this. Harry Truman won that the nineteen forty 328 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 4: eight election. Nobody thought he would. But it wasn't like 329 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: this there when you look at where he was in 330 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 4: March of twenty twenty one, everybody was talking about ron 331 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 4: De Santis and soon Ronda Santis was running ten points 332 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 4: ahead of him in the primary polls. Before they you know, 333 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 4: the first primary, they were talking about jailing him. We 334 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 4: were hearing about all these writs, and then he had 335 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: people even in his own administration, they were you know, 336 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: there was a lot of people just they resigned. Betsy Vadavas, 337 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 4: he just walked away, Bill Barr, all of them before 338 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 4: their tenures were quite up. You had people even like 339 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: Mike Mike Pompeo, who was very critical of Trump's taking 340 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 4: the records out, even though he'd been a superb Secretary 341 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 4: of State. All of the pundits seemed to turn on him. 342 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 4: Not the conservative ones, but the ones that are in 343 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 4: the Wall Street Journal was very anti Trump. I read 344 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 4: things in the Water Street Journal in February and March 345 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty one. They could have come right out 346 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: of the Nation magazine. So everybody thought, you know, he's 347 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: never going to I would have people from different campaigns, 348 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 4: so you know how they call you or they just 349 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 4: asked for advice. I had about four or five calls, 350 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 4: and they from different candidates people, and they said, you know, 351 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 4: what do you think we should do. I said, I 352 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: think you're going to win. And I just didn't think 353 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: he would be destroyed and he wasn't. I just there 354 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: was just something about if he was so bad, they 355 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: wouldn't have had to rig the January sixth committee, or 356 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 4: they wouldn't have had to lie that Officer sick Nick 357 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 4: was violently killed, or there's five policemen died on January sixth, 358 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 4: or there were no FBI informants there. It was just 359 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 4: overkill and the same. And then the stories came out 360 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 4: about Nancy Pelosi didn't call the Capitol police that had 361 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: been request. The whole thing was it was a buffoonish 362 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 4: riot and it shouldn't have happened. But they overplayed that, 363 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 4: and I think people Officer bird shot it lethally an 364 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 4: unarmed woman for the misdemeanor of going through a broken window, 365 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 4: and they hit his identity in a way they had 366 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 4: never done with Officer Chauldon and George Floyd killing our death. 367 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 4: So they just overdid it and overdid it and overdid it, 368 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 4: and I think they were in an echo chamber his 369 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 4: critics were, and they didn't really realize that when you 370 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 4: looked at all the Republican candidates, he was the most resilient. 371 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: He had the greatest degree of charisma, He had a 372 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 4: sense of humor, he had experience, and something about going 373 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 4: through all that made him every time they try to 374 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: destroy him. It only made him stronger, it really did. 375 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 4: And the polls showed that, the mug shot and all that. 376 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 4: I mean, where I work, I had so many people 377 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: come up to me and say, well, where's your Trump. 378 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 4: Now he's lost, he's over with. You should come out 379 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: and right denouncing him. And it's kind of embarrassing that 380 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 4: you were for him. And I could not believe those 381 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 4: same people won't mention any names, but are now saying, wow, 382 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 4: he's doing some good things, this is good for business. Wow. Wow. 383 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: So it gets pretty scary though, you know. I mean 384 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: I was worried that they were going to successfully put 385 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: him in jail. I mean even you know too, you know, 386 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: even the night that when he was convicted on all 387 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 1: the I think it was in May of twenty twenty four, 388 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: I believe when the New York convictions came in. I 389 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: mean I like, I had you know, some wine and 390 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: I ordered to buind of ice cream. 391 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: Well, they had good reason to really depressed. 392 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: Like I, you know, I thought that they were actually 393 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: going to you know, there was a scary period there 394 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: where it really did seem like they were going to 395 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: get them. 396 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: Well, I remember I went through on an interview where 397 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 4: they said. 398 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: Are you worried? I said, yes. 399 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 4: Let's look at the judges and wow, there was Judge 400 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 4: in Ingren and the Latita James, he just he just 401 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 4: despised Trump and he was just ruling against him. And 402 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 4: then Judge Murshawan and the brad case, and then even 403 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: the McAfee or whatever his name was in the Georgia 404 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 4: case was I thought, was pro Fannie Willis. And then 405 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 4: there was the Egen Carroll judge as well. They were 406 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: all anti Trump, and they were they were not allowing 407 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: evidence in that were that they should have that would 408 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 4: have been fairly evident that he was innocent. And then 409 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: the finds that they leveled on him, and the Egen 410 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 4: Carroll and the Fanny and the Latita James, I thought, wow, 411 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 4: how do you come up with three or four hundred 412 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 4: thousand dollars in cash? It just the funny thing was 413 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 4: when you put it all together, he'd never did anything wrong. 414 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: And the Bidens are you know they did all these 415 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 4: I think horrific things. They sold out the interest of 416 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: their own country for this, and they made twenty million 417 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: dollars at most. That's a lot of money, but I 418 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 4: mean they broke every statute, and they were conniving and 419 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 4: they did really harm to the country, and they went 420 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 4: after Trump with three I think the Latita James. Finally, 421 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 4: the reduced fine along with the aging Carol was almost 422 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: four hundred million dollars. And yet here he is and 423 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 4: I don't know what the cryptocurrency or that. I just 424 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: looked at the stock price of truth social they're not 425 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 4: commiserate with what their real market value is. But in 426 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: the stock market that doesn't always matter. He's made several 427 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 4: billion dollars by just being Trump. He hasn't had to 428 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 4: do anything. And that's kind of ironic nemesis or something. 429 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: But they did so much to get so little, and 430 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 4: he did almost nothing and he got very rich in 431 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 4: the end. It doesn't it's just ironic. 432 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: You know, we saw him, which in hindsight, it was 433 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: brilliant of taking time to go to New York, holding 434 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: rallies in your holding rallies in Colorado, you know, holding 435 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: rallies in California and really like going into blue areas 436 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: and fighting for those votes and making his case and 437 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: and you know, calling out the failures in those places, 438 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: and you know it worked. 439 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 3: You look at the map of the country. 440 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: And you know, you see red after this election, and 441 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 1: there's been a big shift to the right, even in 442 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, more democratic blue areas. 443 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: Do you think, well, we see more. 444 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: And then even after you know, the California firefire, the 445 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: California fires, we've seen you know, Hollywood leftist Hollywood people 446 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: come forward and criticize the Democrat leadership, you know, locally 447 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: and in the state, more Democrats moved to the right. 448 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: When Donald Trump is successful over these next four years, 449 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: I think so. 450 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: I think they're they're moving there because of the extremism 451 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 4: on the on the left. They never seen anything like 452 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 4: the Biden administration, and all of these constituencies that were 453 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 4: left wing, never thought that they would directly suffer the 454 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: real consequences of their ideology. I thought it would fall 455 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 4: on somebody else. So I live in a Hispanic community, 456 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 4: ninety percent Hispanic. They were always for open borders. They 457 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: never thought they would bust people into Fresnel County. They 458 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 4: never thought their kids' schools would be overcrowded. They never 459 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 4: thought there when they took their mother to the dialysis 460 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 4: clinic on medical that there would be twenty people who 461 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 4: spoke an Indian dialect from Ohaka ahead of them in line. 462 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 4: They never thought somebody was going to hit them at 463 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 4: a in a car accident, leave the scene of the accident, 464 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 4: and they never thought that thirteen or Nurtannos or Serenos 465 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: would be here in Fresno County. And they would say 466 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 4: to you, you know what's going on. These are democrats. 467 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: I said, yeah, you voted for it. The same thing 468 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 4: with the wealthy people and palacy Pacific palisides. They voted 469 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: for the timber policy, they voted for the water diversion policies, 470 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 4: they voted for the insurance that ruined the insurance industry 471 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 4: regulation policies. They voted for these DEI people that were 472 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 4: totally incompetent and crooked. And now they're thinking, wow, this 473 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 4: all came home to Rust. This was like Dressden, This 474 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 4: is like the Hiroshima, This is Erostima. This is two 475 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty twenty five thousand acres, two hundred and 476 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 4: fifty thousand vacuees. And then they're starting to think, when 477 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 4: you talk to them, but this is the beginning. This 478 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 4: isn't the end of it. We've got to get all 479 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 4: this stuff out of all the trash and all the 480 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 4: burnt material. Then we got to go through the Planning Commission. 481 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 4: Then we've got to get a contract, all these regulations. 482 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 4: It's taken us three or four years to do some 483 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 4: of this, and now they're very worried, and so they 484 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 4: didn't think it would happen to them. And all of 485 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 4: these people in the inner city Black Americans thought, you 486 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 4: know what, then our party would dump all of these 487 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 4: illegal aliens right into Chicago or right into the Bronx 488 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 4: or the Queen. I just don't think they'll do it, 489 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: and they did. So a lot of these constituencies, you know, 490 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 4: all doing the gas. Like a year ago, gas was 491 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: six dollars almost, and I would fill up and I 492 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 4: would see all these Hispanic guys who work on the 493 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 4: West side of California's tractor drivers and stuff, and they would, 494 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: you know, there's lines in these discount gas places, and 495 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 4: they would go in and pay cash, maybe thirty dollars, 496 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 4: but it was only going to give them five gallons, 497 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 4: and then they'd come back and they'd think about it. 498 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: They go back in and pay another ten dollars or 499 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: three dollars. But nobody had enough money because you know, 500 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 4: it was one hundred and thirty dollars to fill up, 501 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 4: and they were all all I just listened to it, 502 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 4: and I thought, you know what, Biden is going to 503 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 4: lose this election because these people. Every Hispanic mail I 504 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 4: met over the age of forty said they could not 505 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: stand Joe Biden. And then they wouldn't say my kid 506 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: went to State or my kids at cal State Bakersfield. 507 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: He doesn't know what he's talking about. He may vote for, 508 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 4: but I'm not going to vote for Biden. And so 509 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: you could feel something was in the air, that there 510 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 4: was a feeling that people who shouldn't be voting for 511 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 4: Trump were voting for him. And I think that constituency 512 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 4: is only going to intensify because it's this is not 513 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 4: a democratic party, This is not liberals, These are not 514 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 4: even progressive. These are Jacobin radical revolutionaries. They don't believe 515 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 4: in a border at all. They don't believe in any 516 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 4: difference between legal and illegal immigration. They believe if you 517 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 4: steal a candy bar, it's not a crime. It's only 518 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: illegal because some wealthy white person made a law because 519 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: he doesn't eat candy bars, so he made a lot 520 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 4: to impress other people oppress them. And they feel abroad 521 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 4: the United States is culpable that we deserved what we 522 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 4: got in Afghanistan or Israel should be defeated. That's the 523 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 4: mainstream of the Democratic already, and that on every poll 524 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: shows they're way way off base with the American people. 525 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 4: So even though he had a narrow Senate and House lead, 526 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: he now has the presidency, the House, the Senate, the 527 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: Supreme Court. But more importantly, on every one of those 528 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 4: issues that he ran on, he's got a sixty to 529 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 4: sixty five percent majority support. And that's what the left doesn't. 530 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: Understand what break stay with us. 531 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: I think what the left does is they sort of 532 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: create these false problems to solve, like climate change and 533 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: transgenderism and DEI and then meanwhile, like Rome Burns and 534 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: you American stuff, you know, And it's like what I 535 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: love about what's happened so far with Trump and just 536 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: the executive orders and his nominees and all of it, 537 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: Like even watching the confirmation hearings, it's a reprioritization of 538 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: what actually matters, like a lethal military We're not in 539 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: a climate crisis. We're in an energy or we're not 540 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: in a climate race with China. We're in an energy race. 541 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: With or we're not a country without board, or you know, 542 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: like just common sense, like a reprioritization of what matters. 543 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: And so what does that mean for these next four years? 544 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: What do you think will happen in this golden age? 545 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: You know, I guess what are you most hopeful about 546 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: over these next four years? 547 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 4: I'm really hopeful on a lot of things. If Elon 548 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: can cut a trillion dollars and they can open up 549 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 4: the economy so you get three to five percent growth 550 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 4: and you encourage investment, you could get somewhere on the 551 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 4: trajectory of the Simpson balls, meaning you could cut the 552 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 4: deficit radically and so that you would be on trajectory 553 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 4: in four years, maybe to balance the budget as he leaves, 554 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 4: but you'd stop this terrible one hundred and twenty three 555 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 4: percent of GDP we owe. And I think he's going 556 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 4: to look at the military, and my gosh, during the 557 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 4: Biden period and during his first tenure, you had I 558 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 4: think it was I counted, I wrote two three articles. 559 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 4: I got a lot of nasty remarks from them, but 560 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 4: we had twenty generals that violated the Military Code of Uniform, 561 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 4: killed of military justice. And call him Hitler Mussolini a liar, 562 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 4: a creep. He should be deposed, We should have a coup. 563 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 4: I can name them chapter in verse. And Yet in 564 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 4: the military and yet, I think he's going to really 565 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 4: shake up those people. I think he's going to get 566 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 4: rid of the DEI. He's going to hold people responsible 567 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 4: for Afghanistan. He is going to look at the contract 568 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 4: the way we procure weapons. Instead of these multi billion 569 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 4: dollar platforms or two hundred million dollar jets, we're going 570 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 4: to be buying drones and we're going to get into 571 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: cyber and AI. We're going to look at the theater 572 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 4: in other words, in Ukraine and the Middle East and 573 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 4: learn from that in the nick of time. I think 574 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 4: also crime, I think one of the things he's really 575 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 4: going to do is I think he's going to predicate 576 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: a lot of federal aid on adherence to federal law. 577 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 4: So we have six hundred six hundred sanctuary juristictions, and 578 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 4: I think he can very easily say to them, it's 579 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 4: fine if you want to do that, nullify. You can 580 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 4: be a neo Confederate, but I'm not going to give 581 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 4: you federal funds. Here, here, and here. He can tell 582 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 4: the universities we see this today at Columbia. You want 583 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 4: to have an anti semitism, you don't protect free speech, Fine, 584 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 4: but we're going to tax your endowments because you're not 585 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 4: a nonpartisan, disinterested party. So you've got thirty billion dollars, 586 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 4: you get a billion or two billion in interest income, 587 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 4: you're going to have to pay a billion dollars in 588 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 4: taxes and that'll cut out most of the DII. I 589 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 4: think he's going to do a lot of things that 590 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: are going to shake people up, and I think that's 591 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 4: what I'm really happy about. And I think he's going 592 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 4: to cut the federal workforce. My biggest worry is though 593 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 4: that either I mean, he is seventy eight. I'm worried 594 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 4: about his health and his resilience and the stuff that 595 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 4: he has to go through. I don't trust. I don't 596 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: trust the Secret Service. Maybe they can reform it quickly, 597 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 4: but they were so lax, and these two attempted as assassination. 598 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 4: I don't think it was a conspiracy. I just think 599 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 4: they don't. When they were assigned to Trump, they didn't care. 600 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 4: They got the impression that this is not a high priority. 601 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 4: So I'm very concerned about that. I'm concerned that there's 602 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 4: going to be a lot of pressure as there were 603 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: the last two elections, but especially during his first tenure 604 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 4: from the culture at large to sort of leak and 605 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: attack him and oh, I had no part and this deportation, 606 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 4: or I didn't have any thing to do with this policy, 607 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. So that's not going to go away. 608 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 4: But we're just going to have to He's going to 609 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 4: have to put his mind on the fact that he 610 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 4: has four years nothing. This will be the last time, 611 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 4: just four years, and he's got to go into warp speed. 612 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 4: I think he understands that. But it's going to be 613 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 4: a wild ride. And I'm happy about it. I think 614 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 4: I've been I've never been this happy. I'm seventy one. 615 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 4: I've never been this happy about a political change in 616 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 4: fifty years. This is more for me as I look 617 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 4: back and try to be disinterested. It's much more important 618 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: than the Reagan Revolution because Reagan Reagan was up against that. 619 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 4: Jimmy Carter isn't. But Jimmy carter Ism was nothing like 620 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 4: what we've seen in the last four years. He was 621 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 4: a liberal, but he was not crazy. He had the 622 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 4: Carter doctrine. He tried to beef up the military. At 623 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 4: the end, he was just weak and naive. But these 624 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 4: people are really something else, and I didn't think anybody 625 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 4: could stop them because they had control over all the institutions, 626 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 4: media foundations, academia, everything, and yet he broke them. So 627 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 4: it's it's pretty exciting that the. 628 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: Because they had control, Like I was thinking about that too, 629 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: because I was the same wory I had about just 630 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: they had so much control, how do you break through that? 631 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: But I think because they had so much control, they 632 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: created this echo chamber within that, you know, within all 633 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: that they controlled, and so they convinced themselves that people 634 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: wanted open borders. 635 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 3: They convinced themselves. 636 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: That people cared about you know, that transgenderism was like 637 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: a top issue for vote, you know, like they convinced 638 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: themselves that voters aligned with their issues, while meanwhile like 639 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: losing touch with what Americans actually wanted. So I think 640 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: in the end, the fact that they controlled everything actually 641 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: was a detriment because it sort of blinded them. 642 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 4: To and they had lied. That's a good point, but 643 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 4: they had also lied for eight year were actually a 644 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 4: decade and finally, people, I have a daughter who's not political, 645 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 4: and when any of these things happened. I just happened 646 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 4: to mention, like emailed Heer today about the Nazi so 647 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 4: called Nazis, she said, who would believe that? Who would 648 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 4: believe that? And that's the point. Nobody believes them anymore. 649 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 4: So they get on there and they scream and yell 650 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 4: about all of his you know, Joey Reid ranning, there's 651 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 4: no audience for it anymore. And Rachel Maddow nobody believes it. 652 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 4: Even the network News, the PBS, nobody believes it because 653 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 4: they've lied. They lied about collusion, they lied about disinformation, 654 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 4: they lied about the Alpha ping. Everything they lied about, 655 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 4: from feeding coyfish to saying the veterans the dead were 656 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 4: suckers to shard us feel it. It's so large that 657 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 4: corpus of line and that the media is totally just 658 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 4: I think, discredited, and they don't have they don't have 659 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 4: any ability to win over people by sensationalism anymore. And 660 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 4: the conservatives are much better at replying to them, and 661 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 4: really real time too, I guess because of the Internet 662 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 4: or podcast, I don't know what it is, but they 663 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 4: get the message out much more effectively against this monopoly 664 00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 4: than they did a decade ago. 665 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's you know, Trump's kind of 666 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: led the way with that. Victor Davis Hanson, always an 667 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: honor to have you on the show. 668 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 3: Always learned so much. 669 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: Looking forward to having you back on as we sort 670 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: of go through these exciting next four years, and you know, 671 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of discussing what it all means, so 672 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. 673 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 3: Always an honor. 674 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 4: Thank you, Lisa. 675 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: I want to thank Victor Davis Hanson for coming on 676 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: the show. I want to thank you guys at home 677 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: for listening. You can listen Monday through Thursday, but of 678 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: course you can listen throughout the week. Also want to 679 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: think John Cassio and my producer for putting the show together. 680 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 2: Until next time.