WEBVTT - S1: E20 – Louisiana Love Triangle, Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>After a night of partying in New Orleans, an angry

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<v Speaker 1>friend lost control after what he heard.

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<v Speaker 2>She did say that her husband forced her into having

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<v Speaker 2>sex with her.

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<v Speaker 1>When it was all over, one man was dead and

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<v Speaker 1>another was in custody.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of alcohol it went on that night,

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<v Speaker 3>and we believe probably drugs as well. I believe that's

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<v Speaker 3>what led to the rage, which led to the shooting

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<v Speaker 3>death of our husband.

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<v Speaker 1>But when witness statements didn't match up with the evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>investigators scrambled to understand what was true and what was not.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just thought, this is not how I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like this went down.

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<v Speaker 1>And the investigation exposed more than just murder.

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<v Speaker 4>How they pulled this off is the one thing that

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<v Speaker 4>amazes me today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just outside of New Orleans for part one of

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<v Speaker 1>the Louisiana Love Triangle. I'm Sloane Glass and vis is

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<v Speaker 1>American Homicide. Just a note that this episode contained some

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<v Speaker 1>graphic content. Please take care while listening. On the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of Lake Pontatrain is the charming and quiet suburb

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<v Speaker 1>of Covington, Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 3>Covent's the last bedroom community is close in your Orleans.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've got the convenience of the city if you

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<v Speaker 3>need it with everything that goes with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Arrowood is a former detective with the Covington Police Department.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll notice an accent. Detective Airwood was born in the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>but moved to the States and lived here on and

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<v Speaker 1>off throughout his life. It's a unique background for a

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<v Speaker 1>local detective.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a city where you have almost mentioned that you

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<v Speaker 3>see in magazines and see on TV and they make

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<v Speaker 3>you jaw drop. But you also have rapport areas of

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<v Speaker 3>town where people live in little shacks that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>think chickens would want to live in. So it's got

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<v Speaker 3>everything from a to Z.

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<v Speaker 1>As people grow up and out of the party atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>of New Orleans nearby, Covington is a great place to

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<v Speaker 1>art and raise a family if.

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<v Speaker 3>You want a quieter atmosphere, a slower pace of life,

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<v Speaker 3>very friendly folks here about. It's a great place to live.

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<v Speaker 3>You can spend any amount of time here. When you

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<v Speaker 3>bump into somebody that you've not met before, within five

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<v Speaker 3>or ten minutes, you've already got ties with them.

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<v Speaker 1>That sort of camaraderie gives the city of Covington a

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<v Speaker 1>small town feel that.

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<v Speaker 3>What's what makes it so interesting, Especially as a police officer.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got that nature of everybody knows everybody, so it

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<v Speaker 3>is a pretty good chance when something happens, you know

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<v Speaker 3>who did that, that's all so and so, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know which way to start looking, which is helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>On the morning of December eleventh, two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 1>Covington Police dispatcher Heather Jenkins was wrapping up after working

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<v Speaker 1>the overnight shift.

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<v Speaker 2>We were getting off at six in the morning and

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<v Speaker 2>right at shift change, nine to one one phone rang.

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<v Speaker 2>The report was that someone hanked a horn and that

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<v Speaker 2>this gentleman came outside and there were gunshots.

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<v Speaker 1>The call came from a worried resident.

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<v Speaker 2>We did not have a lot of crime in that subdivision.

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<v Speaker 2>When we did, it would be things like a mailbox

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<v Speaker 2>got smashed or you know, loud noise complaints, that type

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<v Speaker 2>of crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Within a minute, another call came in, and then another.

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<v Speaker 2>We had seven regular lines into nine one one lines,

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<v Speaker 2>and more calls started coming in that there were gun

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<v Speaker 2>shots and that someone actually was down and had been shot.

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<v Speaker 1>With each phone call, more details emerged about the shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>This neighbor could see that someone had been shot and

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<v Speaker 2>was laying in the driveway.

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<v Speaker 1>That someone was Thomas Tally, who lived on Gratitude Drive

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<v Speaker 1>with his wife, Kendra, and their two year old son.

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<v Speaker 2>There were other people calling to say that Kendra Tally

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<v Speaker 2>was outside yelling for help.

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<v Speaker 1>And neighbors reported seen a gold colored Chevy truck flee

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<v Speaker 1>the scene. As Kendra cradled Thomas on the driveway. He

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<v Speaker 1>was bloodied and wounded, wearing only his pajamas.

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<v Speaker 2>Kendra Tally was just basically there kind of freaking out.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone would freak out. Imagine how difficult it was for

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<v Speaker 1>Kendra to hold her dying husband in her arms. And

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<v Speaker 1>that happened just as Covington police and emergency responders arrived

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<v Speaker 1>at the Tally's home.

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<v Speaker 2>The Ambulance Service did arrive and try to save him,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were not able. Mister Tally was deceased there

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<v Speaker 2>in the driveway.

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<v Speaker 1>The only good news for the investigation was that Thomas's wife, Kendra,

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed the whole ordeal.

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<v Speaker 2>This poor woman has just watched her husband be gunned down.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how can we work this situation to get

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<v Speaker 2>this resolved.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Detective Doug Arrowood describing the scene.

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<v Speaker 3>At that point in time. I believe there were four

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<v Speaker 3>of as detectives and once she got a case of

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<v Speaker 3>that magnitude, all hands on deck, everybody's coming out, so

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<v Speaker 3>we're all called out, and there had been a body

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<v Speaker 3>just laid out on the drive.

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<v Speaker 1>Work next to Thomas's body. Detectives found shards of glass,

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<v Speaker 1>some spent shell casinges, and of course a devastated Kendra.

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<v Speaker 3>I recall her being obviously very upset, hugging her husband,

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<v Speaker 3>saying keep breathing, stay with me, stay with me, and

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<v Speaker 3>wors to that effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Kendra Tally was twenty four years old at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>She was short and petite, with dark reddish hair.

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<v Speaker 3>She was obviously a mess. She looked like she'd been

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<v Speaker 3>out for a couple of nights, which you could probably

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<v Speaker 3>say that somebody's been through something as traumatic as that,

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<v Speaker 3>they're probably going to fold to pieces pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>The one good thing about Kendra Tally witnessing her husband

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<v Speaker 1>being shot was that she could tell the detectives what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Kendra said the shooter was no stranger, but rather a

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<v Speaker 1>good friend of her and her her husband, a man

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<v Speaker 1>named Tommy Row. Now it gets a little confusing here

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<v Speaker 1>because both The husband and the shooter have similar names,

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<v Speaker 1>so keep in mind that Kendra's husband was Thomas Tally

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<v Speaker 1>and the shooter was.

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<v Speaker 3>Tommy Row Tommy Roll. He'd been a friend of the family.

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<v Speaker 3>They'd known each other quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Roll lived about thirty miles north of Covington in

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<v Speaker 1>rural Buggaloosa. He had three children and was very close

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<v Speaker 1>with Kendra and Thomas. They spent a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>together and they had known Tommy Row for years. Even

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<v Speaker 1>their children all played together.

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<v Speaker 3>Tommy Roll had left the scene and gone to his

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<v Speaker 3>house as the.

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<v Speaker 1>Police search for Tommy Row. Detectives questioned Kendra. She said

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<v Speaker 1>that she, Tommy Rowll and some other friends had been

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<v Speaker 1>out on Bourbon Street while her husband stayed home.

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<v Speaker 3>Her husband that day had had oral surgery. He's at

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<v Speaker 3>home recovering. He just had both wisdom teeth out in

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom. For those that have had the wisdom teeth out,

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<v Speaker 3>they know it takes a couple of days to recover

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<v Speaker 3>from that. And he was in some discomfort. He was

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<v Speaker 3>under medication.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happened on Bourbon Street that caused Tommy Raw

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<v Speaker 1>to go to his friend's house and gun him down?

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of alcohol. It went on that night,

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<v Speaker 3>and we believe, uh probably drugs as well. And because

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<v Speaker 3>of the drugs, I believe that's what led to the rage,

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<v Speaker 3>which led to the shooting death of her husband, Thomas Telly.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what a devastated Kendra told detectives. Just after

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<v Speaker 1>the bars closed, Tommy Row went into a murderous rage

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<v Speaker 1>and took it out on her husband.

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<v Speaker 3>He was going to take care of businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>What Kendra said, the Covington PD turned their attention to

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<v Speaker 1>finding the shooter. It was a pretty simple case, but

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Roll was long gone by then.

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<v Speaker 3>He got on a struck and he left. So once

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<v Speaker 3>we kind of established that we had the victim's wife

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<v Speaker 3>here and we had that locked down with them, went

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<v Speaker 3>to try and find the repartrator.

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<v Speaker 1>The police believe Tommy Row was hiding out at his

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<v Speaker 1>home in a wooded area of Bugaloosa about half an

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<v Speaker 1>hour away.

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<v Speaker 3>He was armed, probably dangerous after what we discovered, so

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<v Speaker 3>we wanted to take all precautions. We've got the Sheriff's

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<v Speaker 3>office involved, We've got the SWAT team involved.

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<v Speaker 1>With Kendra's help, more than a dozen law enforcement officers

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<v Speaker 1>spent that early Saturday morning on a manhunt for an

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<v Speaker 1>out of control killer.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're not careful, you can be led in that

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<v Speaker 3>wrong direction. You need to take it one step at

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<v Speaker 3>a time and make sure that you're going in the

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<v Speaker 3>right direction. You know what's happening that I felt was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the most pivotal moment of the case.

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<v Speaker 1>As the sun rose and Covington Tommy Raw showed up

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<v Speaker 1>at his best friend's house and opened fire on him.

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<v Speaker 4>This happened two weeks exactly to the day before Christmas Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Kelly woke up to learn his younger brother Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>was gone. Here's Mark.

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<v Speaker 4>Kendro's sister in law started calling me about six in

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<v Speaker 4>the morning and she said Thomas had been shot. He

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<v Speaker 4>was shot in the driveway. She said, I think he's dead.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure he's dead. I think he's dead. And

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<v Speaker 4>you just imagine him barefoot and pajamas laying on his

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<v Speaker 4>concrete driveway with blood around him. Yeah, that does a

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<v Speaker 4>number on you, and so I have to I just

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<v Speaker 4>shut everything off. I shut my phone off, I shut

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<v Speaker 4>the TV, the radio off. I just I just needed

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<v Speaker 4>to be alone at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>As you can imagine, it was an awful day for Mark.

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<v Speaker 4>He was my younger brother by a little over five years.

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<v Speaker 1>When they were kids, Mark said Thomas was the typical

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<v Speaker 1>younger brother, always followed him around.

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<v Speaker 4>Me and Thomas had a lot of similar interests. We

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<v Speaker 4>tinkered a lot with stuff. We weren't into the whole

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<v Speaker 4>hunting fishing thing. We did like to trek through the

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<v Speaker 4>woods and just goof off and play around Thomas. He

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<v Speaker 4>was on on a roll in school for several years.

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<v Speaker 4>Very sweet kid. Same with Kendra.

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<v Speaker 1>Kendra and Thomas met a few years earlier while working

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<v Speaker 1>at the local pizza hut.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a delivery person, she worked inside, and sparks

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<v Speaker 4>happened and they went from there. He called me one

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<v Speaker 4>time said, remember the girl, Kendra said, now she wants

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<v Speaker 4>to go out with me. So I was happy for

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<v Speaker 4>him because I knew the kind of person. She was

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<v Speaker 4>very bubbly and energetic and happy, and she was very

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<v Speaker 4>pleasant to be around, and I think that's what Thomas

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<v Speaker 4>liked in her.

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<v Speaker 1>The two eventually got married and had a.

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<v Speaker 4>Baby boy, and then everything after that fell in the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Most recently, Thomas worked as a courier.

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<v Speaker 4>Thomas was working two jobs, sometimes another job after that

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<v Speaker 4>to support his family.

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<v Speaker 1>And becoming a husband, father, and provider were rules that

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas embraced.

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<v Speaker 4>He'd always wanted that. He was kind of like me,

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<v Speaker 4>settled down type.

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<v Speaker 1>Although Thomas was six years older than Kendra, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make a difference.

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<v Speaker 4>At first. I didn't think she was motherhood material, but

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<v Speaker 4>she was very good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's understandable given that Kendra went from a girl barely

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<v Speaker 1>out of her teens to mother and wife.

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<v Speaker 4>She still had that in her, the party girl type,

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<v Speaker 4>but that did not hurt her from being a great mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark had last seen Kendra and his brother a couple

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<v Speaker 1>weeks earlier at Thanksgiving dinner.

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<v Speaker 4>We all were together and she cooked a mean Thanksgiving dinner.

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<v Speaker 4>We all had a great time. Kender was happy, Thomas

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<v Speaker 4>was happy. But three weeks later, Boom Thomas had been shot.

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<v Speaker 4>It sends shockwaves.

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<v Speaker 1>Even more shocking was that Thomas's best friend, Tommy Row,

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<v Speaker 1>had pulled the trigger.

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<v Speaker 4>That was one thing I struggled with. You're sad, then

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<v Speaker 4>you're this, then you're angry. I went through all that

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<v Speaker 4>all day. It was terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Law enforcement was on the lookout for an armed and

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous Tommy Row.

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<v Speaker 4>I basically Barrick hated myself in my house.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about it. This was somebody they were all friends with.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark was scared. He didn't know what Tommy would do

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<v Speaker 1>next or where.

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<v Speaker 4>He was, and they went to go look for him.

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<v Speaker 4>That had the whole slot team.

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<v Speaker 1>Heather Jenkins was a local nine one one dispatcher.

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<v Speaker 2>When Kendre Tally told the investigator who the shooter was,

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<v Speaker 2>we notified the sheriff's department and they activated their SWAT

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<v Speaker 2>team because she had told the investigator that he was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a conspiracy theorist and had cameras outside of

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<v Speaker 2>his home and blackout curtains and lots of guns and

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<v Speaker 2>just very kind of a scary guy.

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<v Speaker 1>The police found the gold colored Chevy truck that Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>Row was driving parked outside of his home in Bugalusa. Covington,

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<v Speaker 1>where the crime took place, has a low crime rate

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<v Speaker 1>compared to the national average. Meanwhile, Buggaloosa has one of

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<v Speaker 1>the highest crime rates in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>He was at home and had evidently barricaded himself in

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<v Speaker 2>the home. That was afraid that it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>turn into a big standoff with this guy, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were out there for you know, a while at.

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<v Speaker 1>The time, Tommy was thirty six years old and on

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<v Speaker 1>probation after being charged with cocaine possession.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a real concern that he was not going.

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<v Speaker 1>To give up.

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<v Speaker 5>His sister apparently called him up and did the cops

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<v Speaker 5>or come up to carry you and you take care

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<v Speaker 5>of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Hofstat worked for the District Attorney's office.

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<v Speaker 5>According to him, he put all the guns in a bed,

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<v Speaker 5>loaded them up, and that he was even shoot it

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<v Speaker 5>out with him because he didn't want to die.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd think if he didn't want to die, he would surrender,

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<v Speaker 1>But Tommy wasn't your typical character. He was an avid

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<v Speaker 1>outdoorsman who liked to hunt and fish. He owned numerous weapons,

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<v Speaker 1>and the police weren't taking any chances. The tents stand

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<v Speaker 1>off with Tommy Row went on for nearly four hours

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<v Speaker 1>until one of the officers made a breakthrough.

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<v Speaker 5>His job is to get somebody out of the house

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<v Speaker 5>without having to kill him, and he finally gets Tommy

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<v Speaker 5>on the telephone and Tommy tells him immediately without being asked,

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<v Speaker 5>that he had killed somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Row's guilty conscience got the best of him, Fest

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<v Speaker 1>to killing his friend Thomas Tally when the officer on

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<v Speaker 1>the other end heard this, he purposefully denied that Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>Tally was dead.

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<v Speaker 5>He says, no, no, he didn't kill anybody, He just wounded.

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<v Speaker 1>The officer hoped that by saying Thomas Tally was wounded

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<v Speaker 1>and not dead, that Tommy would peacefully surrender.

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<v Speaker 5>He didn't tell him anything he could to get him

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<v Speaker 5>out of the house where at somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting hurt, and thankfully it worked.

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<v Speaker 5>He eventually came out and then they arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>Him with Tommy Rowlan custody. Detective searched his house for evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>and the inside looked like a junkyard.

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<v Speaker 5>They went up and got the guns and Kendra's cell phone,

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<v Speaker 5>which had numerous phone calls from her husband trying to

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<v Speaker 5>find out where she was and when she was coming home,

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<v Speaker 5>and his notebook with a suicide note in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy really was planning on killing himself. He had penned

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<v Speaker 1>a suicide note in it. He speaks to his relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with Kendra. Here's one part of it. I also want

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<v Speaker 1>my mother to know that I love her with all

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<v Speaker 1>my heart and Kendra just as much or more. I

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<v Speaker 1>just hope Kendra can forgive me for what I have done.

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<v Speaker 1>I also hope Kendra will always know how much I

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<v Speaker 1>love her and what she means to me. I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't sit around and watch her being hurt all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Love always, Tommy. Tommy Rawll confessed to two things, being

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<v Speaker 1>in love with his best friend's wife and killing him.

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<v Speaker 1>The Covington police charged him with murder.

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<v Speaker 4>I still remember the vivid pictures of the camera crew

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<v Speaker 4>when they arrested him, putting him in the patrol car.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all so shocking for Thomas's brother Mark.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so rare to have a shooting murder, especially the

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<v Speaker 4>way it was done here on the north shore of

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<v Speaker 4>Lake Pont Train stuff like that's not supposed to happen here,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what made unfortunately the biggest news, not my

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<v Speaker 4>brother dying, but that because no one gets killed here.

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<v Speaker 1>As the police search Tommy Row's home, they uncovered evidence

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<v Speaker 1>which to them pointed to his long running obsession with Kendra.

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<v Speaker 1>There was that strange suicide slash love note, along with pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>including a family photo. But here's the strange part. The

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<v Speaker 1>photo was of Tommy with Kendra and Kendra's son.

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<v Speaker 4>That seems to be a little off to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Row often hung out with Thomas and Kendra. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a regular at many of the Tally's parties and barbecues,

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<v Speaker 1>and his three children often played with the Tally son.

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<v Speaker 4>All I know is he worked with Thomas installing car

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<v Speaker 4>stereos carl arms back in the day. I think he

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<v Speaker 4>worked at Pizza Hut, I think where him and Kendra met.

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<v Speaker 1>In Mark's mind, Tommy Row was just one of the

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<v Speaker 1>many friends the couple had.

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<v Speaker 4>He comes off as a pleasant person, but he only

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<v Speaker 4>will talk to you if you ask him a question.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna be judgmental, but it just seemed a

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<v Speaker 4>little odd.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy's deadly obsession with Kendra appeared to be a slam

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<v Speaker 1>dunk for prosecutors. They had a confession and eyewitness and

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of incriminating physical evidence.

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<v Speaker 4>He still cared about her, and almost in an overwhelming way.

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<v Speaker 4>My gut feeling was saying, something's not right. I still

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<v Speaker 4>think he had a thing for Candor after Thomas got

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<v Speaker 4>married to her, and I think that always stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>But the results of Thomas Talley's autopsy would throw a

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<v Speaker 1>wrench in everything. Just before sunrise on December eleventh, two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and four, Thomas Tally was gunned down in his

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<v Speaker 1>driveway in Covington, Louisiana. A few hours later, his killer,

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Row, who had been his best friend, was in custody.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Hofstat worked for the District Attorney's office.

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<v Speaker 4>We have very few murders.

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<v Speaker 5>Most murders that we have are what I call business disputes.

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<v Speaker 5>One drug dealer killing another, or somebody's robbing a drug

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<v Speaker 5>dealer because they've got the money. And every once in

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<v Speaker 5>a while we have something like the Raal Tally case,

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<v Speaker 5>which it really doesn't fit in with the norm.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to murder, Tommy also faced a drug possession charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Police had found crystal meth inside his truck. His case

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to be open and shut until the result of

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Tally's autopsy came back.

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<v Speaker 5>The pathologist, the medical examiner, is the one that decides

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<v Speaker 5>exactly what killed him.

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<v Speaker 1>That report stated that Thomas Tally was shot in the chest, hip, head,

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<v Speaker 1>and groin area a total of six times. But the

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<v Speaker 1>detective's job got a whole lot harder when the report

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<v Speaker 1>listed the origin of those six bullets two different tests.

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<v Speaker 5>One was a RUGU nine milimeter, the other was a

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<v Speaker 5>LAMA forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. The fact that the victim took bullets from two

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<v Speaker 1>different guns, well, that changed the entire investigation.

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<v Speaker 5>Se We shot four times with the nine milimeter and

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<v Speaker 5>two with the forty five. The first shots to none

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<v Speaker 5>milimeter shots were shot in a downward pattern, but they

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<v Speaker 5>weren't close shots. They were at least thirty six inches apart.

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<v Speaker 5>The last two shots were directly standing over and the ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Are the forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So here's what that means. Four bullets were fired

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<v Speaker 1>from inside Tommy's truck and two bullets from a different

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<v Speaker 1>gun were fired outside the truck.

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<v Speaker 3>We had multiple gun shot wounds and two calibers. When

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<v Speaker 3>you have two calibers, you know you have two guns.

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<v Speaker 1>It was up to detectives to figure out who fired

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<v Speaker 1>the second gun. Was it someone else or did Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>fire both guns? Here's Detective Doug Arrowood.

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<v Speaker 3>In reality, that's usually not the case unless you've got

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<v Speaker 3>the old Wild West one gun in each hand. People

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<v Speaker 3>are not at all comfortable with shooting on an everyday basis.

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<v Speaker 3>Very very few people up.

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<v Speaker 1>The only other person law enforcement knew of who had

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<v Speaker 1>been at the crime scene was Kendra. She had already

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<v Speaker 1>talked to the detectives right after witnessing her husband being

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<v Speaker 1>shot to death in the driveway of their home.

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<v Speaker 3>She was definitely worse for work, so to speak. But

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<v Speaker 3>given the circumstances, you've got to say that's understandable in

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<v Speaker 3>a very traumatic time. Maybe there's something that she missed.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's something she could tell us that would either

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<v Speaker 3>say yes I did it or no I didn't, and

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<v Speaker 3>here's why, and we'd say, you know what, you have

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<v Speaker 3>a point, you're good to go. So she agreed to

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<v Speaker 3>come in within attorney, I'm agree to talk to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Kendra held the key to what happened and had been

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<v Speaker 1>so helpful to the investigation. So the detective had Kendra

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<v Speaker 1>walk him through what happened that night one more time.

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<v Speaker 3>She was telling me about how she was abused by

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<v Speaker 3>her husband.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, Kendra told the detective that her husband, Thomas,

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<v Speaker 1>had sexually assaulted her a few weeks earlier. On tape,

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<v Speaker 1>Kendra said, he forced himself on her and did some

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<v Speaker 1>things he had never done before.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think there was a lot of love lost

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<v Speaker 3>in this marriage. Maybe there wasn't a lot of love

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<v Speaker 3>at all in this marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Kendra explained that in the hours leading up to Thomas's murder,

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<v Speaker 1>Kendra and Tommy grabbed breakfast after their night on Bourbon Street.

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<v Speaker 3>They went to a local all night establishment waffle house

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<v Speaker 3>and they were sitting there eating and she claimed that

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<v Speaker 3>he pressed her, saying something wrong. What is it? What

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<v Speaker 3>is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when Kendra first shared her secret about how

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<v Speaker 1>her husband had sexually assaulted her.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, okay, well, this is what happened, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>please forgive him. It's not that big a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a big deal for Tommy. He loved

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<v Speaker 1>Kendra and he was furious and he.

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<v Speaker 3>Went into a rage and says, that's it. He loved

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<v Speaker 3>her so much he didn't want to see anything happening

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<v Speaker 3>to her, so that was it. He was going to

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<v Speaker 3>go and take care of business.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy rouse stormed out of the restaurant. Kendra followed and

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<v Speaker 1>found him in his truck, and she said she'd tried

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<v Speaker 1>to calm him down because she feared he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt her husband.

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<v Speaker 3>She talk to him out of it and she thought

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<v Speaker 3>everything was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Kendra and Tommy drove to his house, where she says

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<v Speaker 1>he seemed to.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool off, but they got to his house, he got

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<v Speaker 3>into more of a rage. Then he locked her in

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<v Speaker 3>the truck.

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<v Speaker 4>She said.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy grabbed her cellphone, ran into his house, and returned

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<v Speaker 1>with two guns. Now armed and dangerous, Tommy drove them

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<v Speaker 1>back to Covington. Kendra said she had never seen Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>like that and feared the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>She said she was kicking him and resisting to the

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<v Speaker 3>fullest extent, begging him not to do what he was

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<v Speaker 3>going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>When the two arrived at Kendra's house, her husband heard

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<v Speaker 1>the sound of Tommy's horn and walked outside. Kendra said

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<v Speaker 1>she screamed for him to go back inside, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when Tommy row grabbed a gun and opened fire on

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<v Speaker 1>him from inside the truck. Kendra then exited the vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>and ran to get help, but Tommy wasn't finished.

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<v Speaker 3>He got out, went around the truck, and he put

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<v Speaker 3>a couple in him, just to finish him off, just

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure. But the more you look at this,

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<v Speaker 3>the more you say things aren't adding up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably what you were thinking too. A few key

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<v Speaker 1>details of Kendras's story stuck out.

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<v Speaker 3>She was telling me during the interview about how he

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<v Speaker 3>with one hand drove one curvy windy roads in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the night, and with the other hand tied

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<v Speaker 3>her up and then tied her to the steering wheel.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine tying somebody to the steering wheel of

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<v Speaker 3>a vehicle. Every time you turn a corner, they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a new lap and then they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be off to the side again.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of the truck, remember how Kendra said Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>locked her in his truck.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I've known plenty of people be locked out of

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<v Speaker 3>a vehicle. I've helped him get into their vehicle when

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<v Speaker 3>their key's been sitting in there. I've never known somebody

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<v Speaker 3>been locked in a vehicle unless they were an infant

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<v Speaker 3>in a cradle and couldn't get out, or unless it

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<v Speaker 3>was a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Her husband, Thomas's funeral was scheduled for December fifteenth, two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and four, but that morning, Kendra was a no

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<v Speaker 1>show at the service.

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<v Speaker 5>Was arrested, and she was charged. She was charged of

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<v Speaker 5>the principals of the mardle.

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<v Speaker 1>Just before her husband's funeral, the police arrested Kendra Tally

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<v Speaker 1>and charged her with being the principal to his murder.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a pretty good idea of the evidence that

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<v Speaker 3>We found at the scene that she was involved in

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<v Speaker 3>this and not just a victim.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Kendra the other shooter or was someone else involved?

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<v Speaker 1>The police were about to hear a whole different side

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<v Speaker 1>to this story.

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<v Speaker 5>We had two peoples tell and two different stories. We're

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<v Speaker 5>trying to figure out which story is true.

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<v Speaker 1>In Part two of the Louisiana Love Triangle, just as

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Tally was laid to rest, we'll learn how two

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<v Speaker 1>lovers turned on each other to save themselves. I'm Sloane Glass.

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