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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth. I'm Lazar Lazar. Hello, everybody, nailed it?

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Speaker 1: Joined us always, buy ours, bar David match over schedule.

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Speaker 1: Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Barr band is back

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Speaker 1: together page. Hello everybody, and welcome into a new edition

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Speaker 1: of the Patriots Catch twenty two podcast right here on

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Speaker 1: Patriots dot com. I'm Evan Lazar, Joined us always by

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Speaker 1: Alex Barth. Come to you a little bit early today.

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Speaker 1: Do the media schedule down here. At July players are

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Speaker 1: expected to talk at around one pm, So instead of

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Speaker 1: coming to you at two at our usual time, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do it beforehand so that Alex and I can

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Speaker 1: go talk to Bailey Zappy and Devin mccordy and David

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Speaker 1: Andrews as well. So if you want to talk to us, though,

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Speaker 1: you can call in at eight five five PATS five

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Speaker 1: leading up to Patriots Unfiltered at noon. So we have

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to in this hour and we're

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Speaker 1: set on that hour. We can't go over like we

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Speaker 1: normally do this time. So we got to get to

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Speaker 1: a couple of big things here, and I want to

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Speaker 1: start with a fever check. I want to start with

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a temperature check. And I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna come out and say this a little inside Alex

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Speaker 1: and I, you know, text message chain. It pretty much

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Speaker 1: and text, yeah, exactly. So we we text back and

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Speaker 1: forth conversation with the Bruins game. And usually when I'm

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Speaker 1: watching the tape on Monday, I'll text Alex and I'll

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Speaker 1: get some real hot takes out there, and then I

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Speaker 1: walk them back a little bit when I actually talk

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Speaker 1: about him and write about him. But I got to

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Speaker 1: get them out there initially and see his reaction to

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So on Monday, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I believe those are your true takes. I think you

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Speaker 1: say them and then you're worried you're being too extreme.

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Speaker 1: So I I take what you say first is your

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Speaker 1: as your true belief, whether you believe that or not.

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Speaker 1: I take what you say initially is your true belief

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Speaker 1: on the matter, whatever the matter at hand is. That's

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Speaker 1: totally fair. I can't I can't argue with you there.

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Speaker 1: So anyways, on Monday, I'm watching the film Got Got

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Speaker 1: the All twenty two up of Patriots Browns. I'm watching

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Speaker 1: Bailey's Appy in the Patriots offense. And I have been

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Speaker 1: as reluctant as I would say almost anybody with embracing

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Speaker 1: this Bailey's Appy thing. You take a nasty shot at

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Speaker 1: me last week just for suggesting he might be good,

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Speaker 1: that's fair. I have numerous times supported Mac Jones, said

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Speaker 1: that Mac Jones does things at a different level, especially

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Speaker 1: down the field, pushing the football down the field, not

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Speaker 1: just a deep ball, but also like you know, the

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Speaker 1: to call him intermediate or whatever. So I've been really

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Speaker 1: I do want to keep in context that we have

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Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy. And the other thing is Bailey Zappy being good.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to spoil your take here, but yes,

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Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy being good does not mean Mac Jones is bad. Correct.

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Speaker 1: They're two individual players, one skill set does not if

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Speaker 1: you don't think Mac is good. You don't think Mac

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Speaker 1: you've watched Bailey z Appy, you need to reevaluate why

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Speaker 1: you think that, because that line of thinking doesn't make

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Speaker 1: any sense. And that's exactly what I did yesterday because

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Speaker 1: and it goes twenty four to six at halftime. That's

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Speaker 1: the throw to Kendrick Bourne, probably the best throw he's

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Speaker 1: we're talking about you know, PFF calls them big time

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Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. The two plays that you can nit

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Speaker 1: intentional grounding I thought there was a few options, mainly

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Speaker 1: and there's one other nip pick play where Taekwon Thornton

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Speaker 1: But we're talking about three minus plays or negative plays

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Speaker 1: should have been a touchdown. Right, We're talking about three

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Speaker 1: And I think what really stood out too is how

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Speaker 1: as a quarterback, like, for instance, when he backed shoulders

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Speaker 1: like the corner round he hit the Hunter Henry Offman

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Speaker 1: he's breaking out the safety is inside. He runs a

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Speaker 1: good route, He's getting open on this play. Anticipation, timing, rhythm,

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Speaker 1: Tae Kwon Thornton's pretty clear as the defender, but not

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of young quarterbacks, especially a guy

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Speaker 1: he hit the same throat to Jacobe Meyers, almost exactly

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Speaker 1: the same blades of grass. Right, it's a coverage bust,

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Speaker 1: and he just gets to the top of the drop.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Henry runs like a little hook, you know, right

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Speaker 1: in the in the zone that's vacated, that's open, that's

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Speaker 1: that's not being covered. Hits him with the ball, reads

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Speaker 1: it perfectly. Hunter Henry turns up field gains like three

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Speaker 1: first down. These little things that he did on Sunday

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Speaker 1: six percent in his under center for forty eight percent

428
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: of the snaps, and look out, look at what it did, right,

429
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: They're fifteen yards per attempt on play action with Zappy.

430
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 1: So some of these things, I think that's the best

431
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: case scenario. But I did want to give Zappy his

432
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: kudos off the top of the show here because that

433
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: was a fun tape to watch. Like that is that

434
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: is high level quarterbacking. When you see the field that well,

435
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: you process like you come off reads quickly, like he

436
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 1: gets off reads that are not there for him initial

437
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: reads extremely quickly. Right. You know he had that third

438
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: down conversion to Rumandre Stevenson where the initial read Hunter

439
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: Henry falls down. Jakobe Meyer is bracketed, not open, and

440
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't even hesitate. He doesn't even stare at it

441
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: for even an extra second. He comes immediately off of it.

442
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: He extends the play. He doesn't immediately throw a to

443
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: Remondre Stevenson. He allows REMONDR Stevenson to shake the linebacker

444
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: and then he throws it to Remondre Stevenson and they

445
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: get the first down. Like these types of things are

446
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: not normal for a quarterback and his second start. And

447
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: that's what we've heard. You know, I feel like every

448
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: everybody we talked to down there in the locker room.

449
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: I know Trent Brown said it, I know Jacobe Myers

450
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: has said it. I believe Nelson Aghilor said it. The

451
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: word that keeps coming up. What's it like playing with Zappie?

452
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: How's it like having Zappi's teammate. Chill. Yeah, he's chill, right,

453
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: he's calm, he's relaxed. You really saw it, whatever happened

454
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: around him, I don't think once on the tape you

455
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: never see him panic. There wasn't a moment where you're like,

456
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: oh wow, he's overwhelmed. Oh wow, he doesn't know what

457
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: he's looking at. Oh wow, he doesn't know what to do.

458
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 1: None of that. He was just ready. He was just

459
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: ready for all of it. Yeah, it's really impressive. And

460
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: gotta somebody that has come on these airwaves, as Morrell

461
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: can attest to, and kind of laid into the kid

462
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 1: a little bit over the last couple of weeks. I

463
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: wanted to give him hiss kudos for playing a hell

464
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: of a game on Sunday. Another person that I think

465
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: we're all excited about, and I'm sure they're excited about

466
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: down the Hall. Yeah, Taekwon Thornton. Who you see the

467
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: six touches right like you see the Jets sweep touchdown,

468
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: the touchdown on the goal line, but then you also

469
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: watch the film of the plays where he's not getting

470
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: the football and Joe Judge called it looseness. I think

471
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: that's a good way of putting it. Like his quickness,

472
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: his fluidity. It's not just straight line speeds, It's really not.

473
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: I can't stress that him. He's got a lot of

474
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: wiggle too, And when you have some wiggle out the

475
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage with that kind of straight line speed,

476
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: it's exciting because that's how you get at separation on

477
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: verticals and get up the field. So whether it's Mack

478
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: or it's Appy or whoever, those deep shots are coming

479
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: because he's getting open. So it's just a matter of

480
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 1: timing and really, you know, moving the coverage away from

481
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: him maybe a little bit with some different things and

482
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: things like that. So the deep shots are definitely coming

483
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 1: from Tae Kwon Thornton. And you know, this whole rookie

484
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: class on Sunday showed out. I mean the last two really,

485
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, Ramondre obviously played a huge role in

486
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: that game. Barmore had a couple nice plays before he

487
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: got hurt. I feel, so I wrote the column about

488
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 1: how the kids were, you know, stepping up, and I

489
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 1: included the grizzled veteran of that group in third year

490
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: safety Kyle Dugger, who was also excellent. But yeah, on

491
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: tae kwon I just everybody. Everybody comes in and expects

492
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: him to be a burnard. Obviously he's fast. It's not

493
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: to say he's not fast, but it's when you pair

494
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: that kind of So I think some people may not

495
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: know what the difference is between being fast and being quick, right,

496
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: They think of them as synonyms, and maybe in like

497
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: regular out in the world, they are when it comes

498
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: to football, and it really cross all sports. Fast is

499
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: straight line speed right, forty yard dash, length of the court,

500
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: length of the ice, home to first, however you want

501
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: to categorize it. Quickness is your ability to change direction,

502
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: how subtly you can change direction, how little of that

503
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: speed you lose when you change direction. There's guys who

504
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: are fast, right, there's guys who are quick. The guys

505
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: that are both dangerous are dangerous. That's exactly word I

506
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: was gonna use, dangerous. And if you want an example,

507
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: the touchdown, the end around touchdown. Right, he's coming in

508
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: motion Thornton, almost full speed across the line. He gets

509
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: the handoff, puts the foot in the ground, and then

510
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: he's east to west, north to south like that that right, Yeah,

511
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: what go back if you want to see the what

512
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: what what I mean when I say quickness, not speed,

513
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: not fast quickness. Go back and watch that play and

514
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: watch how little speed he loses when he turns ninety degrees. Yeah,

515
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: it's just there's not a lot of guys that can

516
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: do that, and it's if you have one, there's a

517
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: million different ways you can use it to your advantage. Yeah,

518
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: And I think that the quickness too. It's also the

519
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: ability to change gears and that that's something that I

520
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: think is really underrated about route running, is pacing out

521
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: routes and being able to go from like kind of

522
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: a seventy five percent to one hundred percent. And he

523
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: runs this like hesitation release. And my guess is that

524
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: he might have picked it up from from Tyreek because

525
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: he Tyreek uses it all the time where he comes

526
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage with some burst but it's

527
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: not full throttle yet and he kind of freezes gets

528
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: the corner to kind of you know, lock up his

529
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: hips a little bit and then it's full go right.

530
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: And he did that on the go ball that that

531
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: I posted on Twitter, that where he got behind the defense.

532
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: He did it last week on a similar route from

533
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: the lot instead of on the boundary. He's got that

534
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: little hesitation released down. And when you're that fast and

535
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: that that uh that quick, you really need to have

536
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: like one really good release, right, Like everybody can speed

537
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: release that just go right. You're not you're not making

538
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: any moves or anything like that. So really it's like,

539
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, you got to have one other in your bag.

540
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: You know, Justin Jefferson is the stretch, right uses like

541
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: a little iverson crossover. Davante Adams has the step back,

542
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: which is really difficult to do, Like that's like high

543
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: level stuff. Yeah, so that's the hot one that I

544
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: typically advocate for most receivers to try to mimic because

545
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: it's freaking impossible to do unless you're Adams. So those

546
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: types of everybody's got to have one release. Like it's

547
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: like a great pass rusher. You know, a guy like

548
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett's got a great speed rush, right, so what

549
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: does he supplement that with? He has a really good

550
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: spin move, right because when the tackles start oversetting to

551
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: the speed, he just spins inside on them. So these

552
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: are the little things that he's able. You know, you

553
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: gotta have that one counter, and that's his one counter.

554
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: So Yeah, the deep shots are coming. Uh the Joneses,

555
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: rookie Joneses. I thought Marcus first real exposure, big exposure

556
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: to him. I thought he played really well in the

557
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: game and was typically in phase pretty much the entire game.

558
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: The one catchy gave up, like, you know that's gonna happen,

559
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: especially with his size, He's gonna give up some of

560
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: those plays he's mismatching. Now. Jack is a really interesting

561
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: player because his movements are incredibly explosive. You know, he

562
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: can really flip his hips, he can run, he can

563
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: stop on a dime and close. He can pretty much

564
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: do everything physically that has ever been asked of a

565
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: cover guys. He's really elite cover skills in that department.

566
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: And hopefully this week I'll get a chance to ask

567
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: him about some of these plays. Once or twice a game,

568
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: he's busting a coverage and I don't know, you know,

569
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: based off the way that I see the tape, it

570
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: looks to me like it's more of an assignment bust

571
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: than the physical one. I know, people think he's jumping

572
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: the route, right, because that's he's a little bit aggressive,

573
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: and we've seen him jump routes in the past. And

574
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: that he you know, oh, there's a little bit of

575
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: a double move or a head fake and he's jumping

576
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: the route. Maybe that is the case, but to me,

577
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: it looks like he thinks it's a different structure, right,

578
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: Like he takes its cover two, so he falls into

579
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: the flat and it's actually three. He has the deep thirds,

580
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: so the guy goes right by him, right, you know,

581
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: those types of things. And that that I think is

582
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: if it's mental, then you have no you have no

583
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: long term concerns because it's all fixable. Yeah, Like they'll

584
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: get it, they'll get it on the right page. If

585
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: it's physical, then he's gonna I don't think he needs

586
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: to change his style completely by any means, but he'll

587
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: have to learn to play within his style. Right. I've

588
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: said this about him before, and it's you know, corners

589
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: like him, guys who are just very aggressive, and there's

590
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: guys like that who have succeeded here tremendously. Yeah, I mean,

591
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 1: he reminds me so much. Not I don't even think

592
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: he reminds me too much of JC, because jac was

593
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: just great at the catch point. Sante Samuel will maybe

594
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of Asante. I think current league. Right now,

595
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: he's Treyvon Diggs right like he's he's Trayvon Diggs and

596
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: so he's he's hasn't gotten burned by it yet. But

597
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: like when they play Josh Allen, if he busts the

598
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: coverage like that, it's it's gonna be six right like that.

599
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: That's the quarterbacks like that. Don't miss it. Now, Aaron

600
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: Rodgers missed it, but he was under pressure. So if

601
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: he can get lucky where the one time a game

602
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: that he busts the coverage, Adrian Phillips comes through on

603
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: a blitz and knocks the quarterback on the game. Look,

604
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: maybe there, maybe he knows, hey, we've got a blitz on.

605
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: I can be a little more aggressive here. I've said

606
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: this before about these corners. I don't quite think he's

607
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: Trayvon Digs, because Trayvon Digs to me, it's all intentional.

608
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: I think he has zero desire to play, like he's

609
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: always looking for the pick. That's the only thing on

610
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: his mind. Yeah, maybe Asante is a better example generally, Like, so,

611
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: here's why these guys come in to the league and

612
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: they're super aggressive, and they're shot out of a cannon

613
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: and they you know, they want to just make a

614
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: play on every ball. But a lot of being that

615
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: aggressive and that instinctual is you have to see it right.

616
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: You can't react to things that you don't know. And

617
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: as those guys play more, they naturally get better because

618
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: they see more football. It's all logged mentally, and it's okay,

619
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: this thing beat me. Now, I know how to handle

620
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: it next time I see it. And I mean that's

621
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: true for pretty much anybody who does anything. Ever, but

622
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: the cornerback position is so reactionary, it's I mean that's

623
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: what it is, more than I think any other position

624
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: on the field outside of maybe offensive tackle. It's so

625
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: reactionary that the more you see, the better you get.

626
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: And if you're a player that knows how to use

627
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: your instincts, your advantage, really use your instincts your advantage,

628
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: it becomes that much more valuable. So some of it

629
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: and some of it if it is coaching too, But

630
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, the only way you're gonna know how to

631
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: coach him on it is if he sees it, because

632
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: until he sees it, you don't know how he's gonna

633
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: handle it. So I think moments like that they're frustrating

634
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: and they're gonna he's a rookie. It's gonna keep happening.

635
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: But those moments are valuable because what should happen, we'll

636
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: see and you kind of see it a little bit here,

637
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: and there's no way no until it does. But they're

638
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: very good at coaching corners. When I say it should happen,

639
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean it likely will. He's gonna start to figure

640
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: some of these things out, and you're gonna start to

641
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: see him get beat on those less and less because

642
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: now he's seen it, he knows what to do, he's

643
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: been coached on what to do, and when the instincts

644
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: kick in, he's actually running off of information instead of

645
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: just I don't know his gut or whatever it is. Yeah,

646
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: and I will say, you know, I've talked to him

647
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: a few times already, and he says all the right

648
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: things about the study habits, and I think that that

649
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: was one of the things that Jac started to pick

650
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: up on maybe in year two, year and three. But

651
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: the guy who has left that legacy here is Gilmot's steph. Yeah, right,

652
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: so he mentioned I didn't even prompt him. I just

653
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: asked him, like, what's what's your process like to study

654
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: receivers and watch film on the opponent during the week.

655
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: And he mentioned that mccordy, John Jones, like all these

656
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: guys keep on harping on Gilmore and how Gilmore would

657
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: study splits and route trees and releases and stems and

658
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: figure out what basically know the route before the guy

659
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: runs based off of the situation and all these other things.

660
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: And that's that's the right process. And I think Jackler

661
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: and off Man when he's playing off the line of scrimmage,

662
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: but it is man coverage and not press. But off

663
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: Man he is already elite in terms of his movement,

664
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: Like it's he can you know, we saw him have

665
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: the pick six against Green Bay and off Man with

666
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: the t step right, he can drive on the ball Insanley. Well,

667
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: he's basically rand Amari Cooper out of bounce on that

668
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: vertical route. Yeah, you know, these are the types of things.

669
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: And what I corners love so much about playing off

670
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: the line is that they can pick the ball right

671
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: because you can see the quarterback and the receiver. Whereas

672
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: when you're impressed, you're really just trying to mirror the guy.

673
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: You know, when you're playing an off man, you can

674
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: you can be a little bit more instinctual. Jac loved

675
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: playing an off man because he could go for the football.

676
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: So those are the types of things that I'd stand

677
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: out with you, um stand out with Jack and I

678
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: think you know, I know that the some of the

679
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: bus are like going around Twitter, right, you know, people

680
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: got the all twenty two and are pointing out, you know,

681
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: he did it again, right, he must have this coverage here.

682
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: But so I wanted to hit on that as well.

683
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: UH rookie class did excellently. I know there's a lot

684
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: of really good UH metrics out there about Cole Strange

685
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: right now as well. I've also, you know, been impressed

686
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: with most of Cold Strange's tape. I will say David

687
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: Andrews helps him as much as he can possibly help him. Right.

688
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: You know, anytime David Andrews is uncovered, he's going left.

689
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: He's Mike on WHENU is the guy that we really

690
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: should be talking about this this morning. He is the

691
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: highest PF grade for any offensive lineman in football. Yeah,

692
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: he always grades out really well in PF. But Mike On,

693
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: WHENU has the right tackle, which we're gonna get to

694
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: here in a second, that's been a liability quite frankly,

695
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: and he's not getting David Andrews coming over to help him.

696
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: So he's getting a ton of one on once on

697
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: the right side and he's winning them every week so

698
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: on when he has been outstanding, Colestrane has been good,

699
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: and when he has been outstanding mentioned right tackle. So

700
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: this is a big problem for them right now. I

701
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: think because Isaiah win what I see, and I think

702
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: Chatham put this up there on Twitter as well. You

703
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: can see that the footwork is all out of sorts

704
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: at on the right side. Right, his feet are a

705
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: mess because he's playing out a position for him right,

706
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: he's playing left tackle his whole career. Now he's playing

707
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: right and his feet are an absolute mess. So the

708
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: biggest thing is is that it obvious is that you

709
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: know your feet are backwards right like your post foot

710
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: is now your your plant foot and vice versa is

711
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: now flipped. So it's really when you watch him pass protect,

712
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: it's that it's that inside foot. It's that postfoot, the

713
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: one that you drive off of and when you drive

714
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: off of it and you don't gain any ground in

715
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: it because you're not used to driving off that foot,

716
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: you open your hip up and that's what gives up

717
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: the edge right. Right, So he's had a ton of

718
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: issues with footwork, and I understand that he's also had

719
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 1: a ton of issues with penalties, and I think it's

720
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: all related because it totally compounds. Yeah, he's false starting

721
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: because he's trying to get out of his stance faster

722
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: because he knows that he's having issues getting depth out

723
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: of the stance. And then he's careful about the timing.

724
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: He gets out of his stance late, like he gets

725
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: called for penalty, right, more cautious. Somebody gets out of

726
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: his stance late. And what teams are doing against him,

727
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: they're just sending the pass rusher straight up the field,

728
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: just run by him and then cut in right, come in,

729
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: cut a ninety Yeah, and it's working. Yeah, So Marcus

730
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: can and can still run block. That guy can still

731
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: move people, Okay, So that he has always been good

732
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: at that's always been his calling card. He's a guard.

733
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: In college, they kicked him out to tackle, played him

734
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: as a big tackle, so he's still a people mover.

735
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: And when he doubled teams with on Whino, it's like

736
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: forget about it. Like guys of just getting planted into

737
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: the ground, so he can still run block with the

738
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: best of them. He you know, he's got slower feet, right,

739
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: and so he has some range limitations at the position.

740
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: You can certainly work around that chips or you know,

741
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: just helping him sliding the protection, whatever you want to do.

742
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: But I think on the whole, and I know people

743
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: are out on Isaiah Winn. I know you're completely out

744
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: on him. On the whole, I think that Win certainly

745
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: has higher level pass sets for the most part than

746
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon. But Marcus Cannons mistakes are not as extreme

747
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: right now. But I think with more exposure, is more snaps,

748
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: some of the range limitations in past protection and some

749
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: of the issues that Marcus Cannon has with foot speed

750
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: at this stage of his career, I think that stuff

751
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: would come up more. But it's not killer penalties. It's

752
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: not you know, third and eight becoming third and thirteen

753
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: because he falls starts. It's not you know, a strip

754
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: sack by Miles Garrett. It's not the quarterback geting hurt.

755
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,959
Speaker 1: It's not the getting hurt. It's not a strip shack

756
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: by Rashaan Gary. You know, so the mistakes are a

757
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: little bit less obvious or a little bit less you know,

758
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: what's the word catastrophic, right, So that that I think

759
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: is fair. But ultimately I think that they end up

760
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: playing both of these guys. I don't think, you know,

761
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: maybe you split the reps. Maybe you know, they're still

762
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: going to run a lot of the unbalanced stuff, the

763
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: sixth offensive line stuff, so that's still gonna be a

764
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: big part of what they do. But I don't think

765
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: that they are going to just completely bench Isaiah Win

766
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: and say, Marcus Cannon, you know you're gonna play seventy

767
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: snaps today and it's your job, right, Like I do

768
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: think there's still going to be a little bit of

769
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: both of those guys make sense. I just I worry

770
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: about rotating on the offensive line. That's never something you

771
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: really want to do because so much of that is

772
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: about continuity. I mean, you're putting a lot on Michael

773
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: and when if you do that, they have an open

774
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: roster spot now Cody Davis went to IR. I'd like

775
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: to see them add another tackle to the mix. I

776
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: think that they need another option, and maybe it's not

777
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon. You know, Yanni couldjuiced I think is eligible

778
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: to come back next week. Yeah, they don't have any

779
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: tackles on the practice squad. I don't have the fullest

780
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: in front of me of who's out there, but I

781
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: just it feels like they. I would go with Marcus Cannon,

782
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: like you said, it's not as his misses aren't going

783
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: to be as big. I mean, Isaiah Win is just

784
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: getting beat clean. Like he's not getting his hands on

785
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: guys right now. Yeah, but I think he's got eight penalties,

786
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: which I'm pretty sure it leads the league in terms

787
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: of individuals. Yeah, guy, I think getting could juice back

788
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: or adding somebody else, whoever it is, I think would

789
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: would be helpful right now. Yeah, yeah, it is. It

790
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: is a tough situation. All right. Let's take Eldred in uh,

791
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Aldre. What's going on? Hey, Evan, how are

792
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: you doing? Uh? Uh? Your name is Brea right this?

793
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: What's that? Uh? Come? I don't don't know. It's Alice

794
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: Barth Barth? Okay, yes, sir, um uh evn. Don't you

795
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: think you're just being a little bit hard on Dappy?

796
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: Now I'm not on the zappy train either, but last

797
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: year when Matt came in, there's a lot of defense

798
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: that was heard in missing people too. It was like

799
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: apples to apples. Yeah, I mean did it. I didn't

800
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: heap enough praise on him. I said, you called it

801
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: a perfect I get what he's saying, though, Like I've

802
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: been critical of the situation because I think you know

803
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: Eldred as you probably heard me say, I I didn't

804
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: want the offense to move backwards in terms of what

805
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: they were doing because they had to go with a

806
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback again and kind of put those training wheels

807
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: back on the whole thing, right, And to me, this

808
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: year was supposed to be about progress and taking that

809
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: next step forward. That being said, the game that Zabby

810
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: played on Sunday was fantastic. You know, he played out

811
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: of his Evan. Let me ask you this, with the

812
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 1: training wheels on in that game, I guess I guess

813
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: it depends on what you say, Like, I don't know,

814
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: I think a little less. Yeah, I think a little less.

815
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: But at the same time, when you're running play action

816
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: and you're only putting two receivers in the route, now,

817
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of teams do that. I'm

818
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: not saying, you know, a lot of the Shanahan tree

819
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: does that, right, it's you know, post and cross, it's

820
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, a corner and like kind of the the

821
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: underneath corner right and you yeah, you bootleg you know,

822
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: thing like that that's going around right, you know. So

823
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: to a degree, it's it's not necessarily as a training

824
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: wheels he as maybe it sounds. But still when you're

825
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: putting two guys in the route and you're really only

826
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: reading the deep safety and and you're you're not you're

827
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: eight in the protection to keep them clean like, that's

828
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: that's managing it, right, That's that's making the situation as

829
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: clean for the quarterback as you possibly can. What else

830
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: you got, Eldred, Okay, I'm crazy about Thord like it,

831
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: But don't y'all think from a player, not players. Keep

832
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: me from a fan and somebody outside. If when and

833
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: Brown ain't working in the positions you got him in

834
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: because you want them there because of the money situation,

835
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: don't you think it might get better if you just

836
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: flip them back so where they both be happy at

837
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: the position, they both be playing it, and maybe the

838
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: penalties and everything will stop. It's a good question. Now

839
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: you have a thing like that, It's a good question. Alda.

840
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: Thanks for the caller you appreciate it. I'm you call

841
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: back and unfiltered too. I know they like hearing from you. Uh.

842
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: It's a good question, like the flipping like and we

843
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: talked a lot about this in the in the spring

844
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: and in the summer when when we find finally got

845
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: ahold of what they were doing. And Trent obviously is

846
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: flipped back and forth his whole career, so I think

847
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: for him it's pretty pretty smooth transition. But it's clearly

848
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: messed with Isaiah winn Ye. And I'm not saying like

849
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: we should second guess it necessarily because it's done is done,

850
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: But flipping back, I don't know, Maybe I think we

851
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: might be too far off. Yeah, it's hard for a

852
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: couple of reasons. I just talked about the continuity, how

853
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: important that is, And do you really want to put

854
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: regardless of you if you think Isaiah Win's going to

855
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: play better? I think at this point, you know, maybe

856
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: at the beginning it was about the difficulty of playing

857
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: on the other side, but I wonder now you know

858
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: it is a mental thing at this point, and is

859
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: it just kind of you know, do you want to

860
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: take the guy who's playing worse, put him at the

861
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: more high impact position next to a rookie. Yeah, because

862
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: I'll say that Trent he had a rough start. I

863
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: think it was the first gaming didn't play well. It's

864
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: been great since. Yeah, he's looked really good since. Yeah,

865
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: he had some trouble last week. Um, I'm like it

866
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: wasn't just Garrett what their other edge dresher he got

867
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: underneath them a few times. But I think the big

868
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: thing is in some of the charting that's being done,

869
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: like by PFF and stuff and next Gen bears this out,

870
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: Trent Brown gets like the least amount of help of

871
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: anybody in the tackle position in the league. Yeah, because

872
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: all the help's call in the coal right, So like

873
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: he's on an island on the back side every single

874
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: pass set he takes. Yeah, I don't want to put

875
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: Isaiah Win in that spot. And again, Trent's been good.

876
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to move him. He's been good. And

877
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: I think the other element of this is Isaiah Wins

878
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: contracts up at the end of the year. Trent Brown

879
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: still is one more year, So what are you gonna

880
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: move Trent to right? And then what move him back

881
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: to left next year? Keep him at you know, keep

882
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: him at right, next year. I will say this not

883
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: to get ahead of ourselves. I know you would go

884
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: for an hour on tackles in the draft. Right now,

885
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: when we get to draft stuff, tackle is probably number

886
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: one on my list. Peter Scronsky, Northwestern, that's the guy.

887
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: This year we got names, that's the guy. It's got

888
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: to be number one on the list. Yeah, it's gotta

889
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: because I mean, it's been number one on the list

890
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: right because Isaiah Win is as good as god at

891
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: this point. Trent Brown's gonna be in a contract year.

892
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: He's also getting up there in age, so you might

893
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: need two tackles at some point here in the next

894
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: year or two. So tackle in the first round. I

895
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: know that. You know, people are gonna want like a

896
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: playmaker on defense or there's still some people despite Tai

897
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: Kwon and all this, they're gonna want receivers. But tackle

898
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: in the first round is what smart teams do. Like

899
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: go ahead and draft, don't draft Isaiah Win two point oh, Like,

900
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: don't draft an undersized tackle, but go out there and

901
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: draft a six foot six three and twenty pound guy

902
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: that's gonna you know, Ryan ram Chick, right, Like, oh,

903
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: go out there and draft somebody that's just gonna keep

904
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: the dude clean for four years. Yeah, you have to

905
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: let me give you one more name now because you

906
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: brought this up Ohio State, can play both sides, has

907
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: experienced in both gap and zone schemes. Yeah, guy named

908
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: Dwan Jones six eight, three seventy. The comp is Trent Brown, right,

909
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: the comp and he's supposed to be late first early

910
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: second round pick. That's the guy. There's so many there,

911
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: you know. Look, they I think, you know, it's way

912
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: too early to say they it's a full on hit

913
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: with Cole Strange, but they the kid can play. Belongs.

914
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: People look to what extent, you know, but he belongs.

915
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: He belongs is a good way to put it. So

916
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: I like to you know, Isaiah Wynn has a lot

917
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: of things that you really like about him physically, his footwork,

918
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, his ability to get out and run, block

919
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: and things like that as well. Like he has he

920
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: has good traits. It just you know, hasn't all come

921
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: together for various reasons. You know, Flipping him I don't

922
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: think has helped him at all. So I think that

923
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 1: they're evaluation of offensive lineman has always been pretty good,

924
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: too great, right, I mean, especially on Day three obviously

925
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: to get guys like on WHENU and stuff like that,

926
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: But in general, their offensive line evaluation has been really,

927
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: really good, probably one of their best. So go out there,

928
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: have Scarneckia watch some tape of some of these guys

929
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: and in February and March and give you his his

930
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: two cents on the on the class and get mac

931
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: or if you want to say, get Sappy, get Zack

932
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: at the quarterback, get the quarterback, a franchise left tackle.

933
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: And I don't think you know where they're gonna be picking, Like,

934
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm still not on the Super Bowl train

935
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: for the Patriots yet. So where they're gonna be picking.

936
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it will be too hard to find

937
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: a guy that is really has that type of potential,

938
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: Right I think Penning went like eighteen or nineteen last year. Yeah,

939
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: I think they'll be So I'll tell you this right now.

940
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 1: There's currently five tackles projected to go in the first round.

941
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: Two of them are projected to go in the top twenty. Yeah,

942
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: so that twenty to twenty five range, which is where

943
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: I think they ultimately end up. You should and look,

944
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: the board's gonna move a lot it's early between now

945
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: and then, especially what the combine with those guys, like

946
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: once they get testing done, Like some of these guys

947
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: are gonna testing. But I'll tell you this just looking

948
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: at the list. So I just gave you that right

949
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: five in the first round. Two in the top twenty.

950
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: There's a couple other guys that are like right now

951
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: in the fifties. I think, move up. So yeah, all right,

952
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: so we got ten more minutes. Let's talk about the Bears.

953
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: I do want to get to the front seven, but

954
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: I think that's a longer conversation, so we'll give it

955
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: another week and talk about that next week. I do

956
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: want to touch on the Bears and what's going on

957
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: with Justin Fields a little bit because I think it's

958
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: an interesting conversation since and an alternate universe, Justin the

959
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks might be flipped in this game, right, like the

960
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: Patriots could Bears might have taken Bailey's happy in an

961
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: alternate universe. Yeah, it could be Patriots quarterback Justin Fields

962
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: and Bears quarterback Matt That. That's why this game's in primetime,

963
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: Like that's the match up on Monday Night Football. So

964
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: I think what's interesting about what's going on with Justin

965
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: Fields is a bigger conversation league wide that I think

966
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: is going on right now about situation, like supporting cast coaching,

967
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of it going around

968
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: that a lot of teams, a lot of people around

969
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: the league just feel like if you put it on

970
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: a silver platter for these quarterbacks, a lot of these

971
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: guys have the talent to lead an offense in the NFL, right,

972
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys have the arm talent, the accuracy,

973
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: the athletic ability. For some of these guys like Justin Fields,

974
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: that if you have a great situation and you have

975
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: good receivers, solid offensive line, a good scheme, good play caller,

976
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: like you can get away with not having a elite

977
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: talent at the quarterback position. So with Fields, all he's

978
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: got elite physical traits. He personally checks the box, yeah,

979
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: but everything else around him is an absolute disaster. And

980
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: I do think that there are some little things on

981
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: the film that he could do better that would help him,

982
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: like little indicators and pre snap stuff and knowing you

983
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: know what it's man when it's zone, knowing leverage like

984
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: knowing all that kind of stuff that I think will

985
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: evolve for him as a passer as things move on.

986
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: But this is a perfect case test of like I hate,

987
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: I hate when your station does this a lot. Let's

988
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: flip the quarterbacks, right, what happens. But if you flip

989
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and you give Belichick Justin Fields, I'm not

990
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: saying that the Patriots would be better off. I'm just

991
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 1: saying Justin Fields would be better off, right, Like Justin

992
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: Fields would be much better. Mac Jones would be worse off. Right.

993
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: So this is a really interesting game to me to

994
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: see what Justin Fields can put together. Extremely slippery and

995
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: scramble mode, Like when he gets out and scrambles, he's

996
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: extremely good to tackle. They don't use him on designed

997
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: runs as much as I would have thought, as much

998
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: as they probably should. I think some of that is

999
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: they don't want to get him hurt. But he's behind

1000
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: a terrible offensive line anyway, So what's it matter. He

1001
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: got knocked around that Thursday night game? Yeah quite a bit. Yeah,

1002
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: but he's got that ability. He's got good Billy off

1003
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: play action like most quarterbacks do nowadays. He can throw

1004
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: the vertical obviously, hits Dante Pettis for like a fifty

1005
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: yard touchdown in that game, they're one touchdown, and he

1006
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: can move really, really well. He's an extremely good runner.

1007
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: So as much as it's not necessarily a great offense,

1008
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: it's a terrible offense, there's at least things going on

1009
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: that Justin Fields you gotta account for with Justin Fields, right,

1010
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: you gotta account for his athleticism, and you gotta account

1011
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: for his arm talent. It's not just as simple as oh,

1012
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,959
Speaker 1: we can just kind of you know this, this whole

1013
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: thing is off the rails, like Dustin Fields is a

1014
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: physically talented quarterback. Yeah, but again, it's sort of a

1015
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: mess around him. Evan, You've you've heard me talk about

1016
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: this a million times, and it's gonna be the first

1017
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: time of many times I ultimately do it on this show.

1018
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: When it comes to quarterbacks in the draft, the quarterbacks

1019
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: only part of the equation. Yeah, it's essentially nature versus nurture.

1020
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: We've both seen very naturally talented quarterbacks go to bad

1021
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: situations and become busts. We've seen guys that are probably

1022
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, okay in terms of their raw ability end

1023
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: up in the right situation and become stars. Yeah. Right,

1024
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what this game is. Yeah, you

1025
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: know who's more who's more raw physical talent? Justin Fields easily,

1026
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: not a debate who's in a better situation? Mac Jones?

1027
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: And it's not debate. Honestly, you could make this same argument.

1028
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: You're right subbing in Bailey's appy. Now it's more fun

1029
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: with Jones because of the situation where the two were drafted.

1030
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, Justin Fields more physically talented than Bailey's Appy, certainly,

1031
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: but who's in the better situation? And you see, you know,

1032
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: we go into the draft and we talk about which quarterback,

1033
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, which guy's gonna be good, which guy who's

1034
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest bust. You know when we

1035
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: talk about this before the draft, and I get why

1036
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: we do it, totally get why we do it, but

1037
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: we don't know the whole picture. Right, It's well, where

1038
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: is he gonna end up? You know, if this guy

1039
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: goes here, and it might not be as simple as

1040
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: these teams will work, these teams won't. It might be

1041
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, well, this guy, if he goes into this situation,

1042
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: it'll be great for him because of the scheme they run.

1043
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: But if that same team drafts this guy, oh it

1044
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: could be a mess because they don't necessarily have the

1045
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: pieces to support him. Look at what happened. Lamar Jackson's

1046
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: a perfect example of this. His first year there. It

1047
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: looked ugly at times because they just they didn't have

1048
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: a system, they didn't have the right sievers. All of that.

1049
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: They built around his skill sets. And this isn't a

1050
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: takeaway from Lamar Jackson. The best quarterbacks in the league,

1051
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, their teams build around

1052
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: their skill sets as well. Sure, because that didn't say

1053
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: I know, I didn't because that's what that's what smart

1054
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: teams do. You build around your quarterback. It's tough to

1055
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: say the Bears have built around justin fields right now,

1056
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 1: and they know it's just a year end, but even

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00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: some of the decisions they've made in the last year,

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00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: what were their first three draft picks, four draft picks

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00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: on defense? I think yeah, they've so they've been a

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00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: little bit. It's nature versus a mess. Now. I want

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00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: to move just quickly head on the defense because ebbs uh,

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00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: he can dial it up a little bit. You know,

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00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't think they blitzed very much just based on

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00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: the stats or whatever. But uh, he can dial it

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00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,479
Speaker 1: up a little bit and is an interesting player there,

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00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: interesting coach in terms of how he runs it. Scama,

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00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: they run a lot of too deep. The Patriots had

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00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble with it, and I, like I

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00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, in the first half of that Colts game,

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00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: you know they had they struggled with some of the

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00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: zones they were playing and stuff like. That second half

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Speaker 1: they opened it up a little clear out routes, you know, levels,

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00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: and they hit the kill Harry on that deep shot

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00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: on the backside of a play that was probably the

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00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: best sequencing they had in a lot of games last year.

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Speaker 1: Was kind of building up to that big play down

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00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: the field. So every philists can give you some problems.

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Speaker 1: And like you said, they have some guys that are playmakers,

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00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: you know, the guys that can that can disrupt the play.

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00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: So I think it's a good litmus test for whoever

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00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: is at quarterback. It's not the a shutdown defense, but

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00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: we're moving in the right direction in terms of getting

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00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: off of guys that are like you know, or defenses

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00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: that are like Detroit in Cleveland, who are thirty second

1085
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: and thirty first right now in Dvoa right, we're moving

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00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: in a little bit more of a positive direction. No,

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Speaker 1: I gave the numbers before their top half defensively in

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00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: both points and yards, they're right on the door points,

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00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: which I think is the more important number. They're right

1090
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: on the door of the top ten there, they're eleventh.

1091
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: And you know, when I look at a defense, it's

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00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: the first thing I look at in terms of how

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00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: seriously did you need to take a defense? Do they

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00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: have a playmaker, a legitimate playmaker at all three levels?

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00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was true for the Browns,

1096
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: wasn't true for the Lions. I think it's true for

1097
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: the Bears. Right. Bill Belichick was raving about Robert Quidden

1098
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: this morning. You know, he's a good player, he's you know,

1099
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: in the middle. Who knows how much longer? Though Roquan Smith,

1100
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: he reportedly wants to be traded, But yeah, is that

1101
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: going to happen before Monday? And then I said it

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00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: Befo'm a huge fan of both of their starting safeties,

1103
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson and Jaquon Briskers. The rookie who's the only

1104
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: defensive rookie in the league to play every single snap

1105
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: for his team to this point. In the season one

1106
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: hundred percent usage rate for a rookie Kyler Gordon can

1107
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: both have and then Kyler Gore at the corner. But

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00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's guys at all three levels that

1109
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: Zappie or Mack or whoever are going to have to

1110
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: account for. That wasn't the case the last couple of weeks.

1111
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be really interesting to see how they

1112
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: do that. We talked before about the you know, the

1113
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: training wheels being on it and really how much did

1114
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: they expand the offense. You're gonna have to do a

1115
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: little more this week. This defense is not gonna let

1116
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: you move the ball with the vanilla offense the way

1117
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: Detroit and Cleveland necessarily did. How far from vanilla, how

1118
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: they make it un vanilla, that's the question, But it's

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00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: something they're gonna have to do. Yeah, if you if

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00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: you go two routes, play action, max protect, Like, I

1121
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: don't know if this defense is gonna take the cheese

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00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: as much as Cleveland and Detroit did, but we gotta

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Speaker 1: wrap it up. We got Unfiltered coming on next at

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00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock and a couple of minutes here, so stay

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Speaker 1: on the live stream and hang out with Unfiltered for

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Speaker 1: the next two hours as well for more Bailey's appy

1127
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: Let's see if Paul Parilla's got the fever. No Deuce

1128
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Speaker 1: is saying no, it's giving me the choke side. No, no, no,

1129
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Speaker 1: Bailey's appy fever over there. We maybe got it out

1130
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Speaker 1: in the first twenty minutes of this show. For everybody,

1131
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: but Alex and I will be back next week. We'll

1132
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Speaker 1: go back to our normal time, hopefully with the team

1133
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Speaker 1: going back to their normal schedule at two o'clock on Wednesdays.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see you next time, and like I said,

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Speaker 1: stay tuned for Unfiltered. Thank you for downloading this podcast,

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