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Speaker 1: from Coast to Coast AM on iHeart Radio. Dr Scott

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Speaker 1: Colbaba is an interness in private medical practice in Wheaton, Illinois.

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Speaker 1: Graduated from the University of Illinois College of Medicine Honors

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Speaker 1: and did his residency at the Rush Presbyterian St. Luke's

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Speaker 1: Medical Center in Chicago and at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: He has been awarded membership in the Alpha Omega Alpha

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Speaker 1: Honor Medical Society. He's been featured in The Chicago Magazine

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Speaker 1: as a top doctor in internal medicine. He's written the

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Speaker 1: book called Physicians Untold stories, and I got to tell you, Scott,

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Speaker 1: amazing stories. Indeed, welcome to the program. Thanks, George, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. So tell me tell me a little

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Speaker 1: bit more about yourself, and then how did you get

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Speaker 1: into writing a book with these kinds of stories, especially

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Speaker 1: with your medical background. How did that transition occur? Well, George,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm an ordinary doc. You know, when people get

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Speaker 1: sick they call me up. I just see, I'm a

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Speaker 1: primary card doctor. I take care of all kinds of

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Speaker 1: exciting things like sore throats and diarrhea and marital disputes

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Speaker 1: and and some of the big things too, like heart

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Speaker 1: attacks and struggle. Never you know, you never can tell

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Speaker 1: what comes to the front door. And that's the kind

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Speaker 1: of doctor I am, and I love it. I've always

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Speaker 1: wanted to be a doctor. And um, actually I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, I've in the past, I've been relatively boring.

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Speaker 1: You know, you wouldn't want to go to a party

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Speaker 1: with me. I wouldn't know what to say. But about

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Speaker 1: five years ago, uh, something happened that was just amazing

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Speaker 1: and it forced me pretty much to to consider writing

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Speaker 1: a book. And I had more and more experiences like

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Speaker 1: that that eventually led led to this book, and I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you that the first one that really changed my life,

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Speaker 1: and that was Dr Dave Mokel, as an orthopedic surgeon. Locally,

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Speaker 1: I was making rounds, minding my own business, just being

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Speaker 1: an ordinary doc and the floor and all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden he comes running up to me. He said, Scott, Scott,

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Speaker 1: I've got to tell you this amazing story. And I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: tell me the story. And he said, well, I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you here. He said, why not, said someone might

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Speaker 1: hear us. We went into a patient room. He closed

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Speaker 1: the door and he said, I want to tell you

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Speaker 1: about a mutual patient. Mary, Mary arrested him on the

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Speaker 1: operating table when he was doing a surgery on her ankle.

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Speaker 1: She was given the antibiotic and evidently that caused her

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Speaker 1: to rest. She had she flatlined, no pulse, no respiration's

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Speaker 1: eyes closed, totally basically dead. When they call a code

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Speaker 1: in the eat in the operating room, everyone from the

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Speaker 1: rooms around all of a sudden files in and one

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Speaker 1: of the texts that had a bright red hair on

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Speaker 1: udneath his operating room cap started to do the CPR

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Speaker 1: chest compressions. Dr Mokel was in charge of the code,

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Speaker 1: so he was checking the pulse to make sure that

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Speaker 1: so he asked her a couple of times, asked him

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Speaker 1: a couple of times to step aside so he could

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Speaker 1: do the CPR, and he didn't step aside. Now, codes

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Speaker 1: be real play when you're running a code. So what

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Speaker 1: he did is he moved over and just pushed him

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Speaker 1: thank you for saving my life. I saw you push

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Speaker 1: that guy aside and start my CPR. And and by

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Speaker 1: that point Dr Moca was a little weak in the

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Speaker 1: She said, And then she went on to describe all

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Speaker 1: the events that happened in the in the operating stay

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Speaker 1: with the CPR. Dr Mokol evidently paid me a number

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Speaker 1: of times I wasn't in the hospital, kept looking at

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Speaker 1: with the code, but again I wasn't there. And she said,

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Speaker 1: she described in detail all the things that had happened

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Speaker 1: during that code that no one could have even told her.

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Speaker 1: And he was trying to figure out in his mind,

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Speaker 1: you know, scientifically, how this could happen. And then she said,

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Speaker 1: to me and told me it wasn't my time to go,

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Speaker 1: that I needed to come back, but if I was

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Speaker 1: a kind and good person, that there would be a

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Speaker 1: place for me in heaven. And it's interesting that after

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Speaker 1: kind of a curmudgeon, not the nicest person in the world. Afterwards,

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Speaker 1: she was phenomenal. She was kind and considerate. She was

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Speaker 1: helpful to her widowed father. Every time I saw her

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Speaker 1: in the office. She was just a wonderfully gentle and

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Speaker 1: considerate person. And she lived for about three or four

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Speaker 1: multiple serious medical conditions that had been going on all along.

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Speaker 1: And so when Dr Morkel told me that story, I thought,

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Speaker 1: that is incredible. I wonder if other doctors have stories

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Speaker 1: like that. And sure enough I began to to to

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Speaker 1: listen to other doctor's stories, and and for some reason,

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Speaker 1: they kept coming to me and they told me these

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Speaker 1: amazing stories. And I finally said, I've got to write

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Speaker 1: these downs. But they kept them quiet while they were

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Speaker 1: going on, didn't they generally? Yes, Dr Mokel, I said

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Speaker 1: to Dr Mokel, did you tell anyone else the story?

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Speaker 1: He said, no, I just told my family, but I

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Speaker 1: I wanted you to know what happened. And U and

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Speaker 1: each of these doctors that told me stories again, these

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Speaker 1: these were stories that they don't like to share it.

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Speaker 1: These are ordinary doctors. These aren't strange doctors. These are

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Speaker 1: doctors that you go to for, you know, any kind

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Speaker 1: of orthopedic view or surgical issue or whatever. And they're

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Speaker 1: people would think they're strange and stop going to them.

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Speaker 1: At least that's what they thought. They're afraid of ridicule.

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Speaker 1: And are they afraid of what some of their colleagues

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Speaker 1: will say about them? I think I think it's everything.

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Speaker 1: I think they're colleagues and I think patients too. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you have a premonition or a dream or something

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Speaker 1: about a patient and it comes true. If you told that,

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Speaker 1: if that story was widely circulated, they thought that they

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Speaker 1: their lose patients. Actually that hasn't happened, but that was

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Speaker 1: the that was the initial supposition. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about a number of stories with Dr Scott col Baba,

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Speaker 1: author of Physicians un Told Stories, which included twenty six

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Speaker 1: other physicians coming forward telling some of the things. And

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Speaker 1: I would guess Scott that if you were able to

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Speaker 1: pull the entire planet of doctors, you'd have volumes of stories,

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Speaker 1: don't you think? Yes, yes, And it's interesting. We're getting

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Speaker 1: stories where people are writing in stories now all the time,

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Speaker 1: and I'm getting enough stories to write a second, second book. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I think George, that you know these are the

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Speaker 1: kinds of stories. I think every family, uh anywhere, not

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Speaker 1: just doctors, but every family has a story like this

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Speaker 1: is something that you just can't explain, uh scientifically, And

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Speaker 1: I think these stories validate the experiences virtually every family.

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Speaker 1: I suspect that you or your family have a story,

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Speaker 1: uh that you can't explain, that there's a vision, uh

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Speaker 1: something someone that has passed it has come back in

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Speaker 1: a certain way to let you know that that they

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Speaker 1: are still around, that they participate in their lives. Listen

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