1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Hi, Amber, hilelah, Welcome to an unlikely affair. Hey, babe's 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: welcome to an unlikely affair. I am here with my 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: sister wife Amber. Hello, gorgeous, Hi baby, how are you? 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm excellent. I worked out this morning. I told myself 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: no more breaks, and I have not I smell. I'm 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: actually glad you're not next to me. I'm very glad. 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: Easton was like, yo, you then you are ripe. 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Did you work out at home? 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just easier that way. Have you been have 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: you been doing pilates and stuff? 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: No? 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: I just did yan yoga on the floor like before 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: we started recording, and then I've been going to the gym. 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: I got to get out of the house. 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: That counts. That all counts. What's yan yoga? 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: Well, yan Yoga's is like I call it lazy man yoga, 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: but it really isn't. It's basically like meditation, but you're 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: holding poses for three to five minutes. 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: No, that sounds legit. 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: Oh, it's so good when I'm when I'm there, we'll 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: do it together. I have this guy that I follow 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: on YouTube and I started during the pandemic and it 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: literally just centered me. I can't I'm not great with 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: regular yoga because I have really weak wrist, so this 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: is kind of like I could just lay on the 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: floor and watch something and like sit in a pose 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: and it really gets into like the fascia of your muscles, 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: which is like the layer underneath that like actually support 29 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: your skeletal system. It's amazing. 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: Muscles were wrapped in. Am I misinformed? I don't know. 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: I thought the fashion was what your muscles I need 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: to take like an anatomy class, So. 33 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you're right. I don't know. 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: Google it. No, I'm proud of us because I feel 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: like I get my body to where I want it 36 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: to be, and then something comes up where I've got 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: back to back like super early mornings, and I'm like, Okay, 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: we'll pick back up next week. But then I look 39 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: at the following week and it's like, oh shit, I'm 40 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: leaving town and I just fall off. And the moment 41 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: that I do that you can work for an entire 42 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: year on a slam and body, and I feel like 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: you take one week off and your body is back 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: to look in like the Grinch. And maybe that's just 45 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: my experience, but I'm like, I refuse. 46 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: You know, I told myself when because I think this 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: going to the gym has to be this huge production. 48 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be. If I say, Okay, Amber, 49 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna go there, You're gonna get on the treadmill 50 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: for thirty minutes. You're not gonna run. I tell myself, 51 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: you're not gonna run. You're gonna do a three speed 52 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: at a twelve incline right to really at least work 53 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: the back of your legs. And then sometimes I get 54 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: motivated to run if I'm listening to like a good 55 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: rap song and then I go and I do, like 56 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: You're like, okay, you're gonna do three exercises now, always 57 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: want more because like once those endorphins start, you know, 58 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: flowing through my body, I'm like, oh man, I feel good. 59 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: Let's keep doing it. And I end up being there 60 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: for like like a full hour, which is great. Yeah, 61 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: that is a trick yourself. Well, I think the hardest 62 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: part about getting to the gym is getting to the gym. 63 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: It's like the hardest part of the entire workout is 64 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: like getting me to start. 65 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. They say the heaviest way at the gym as 66 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: the front door. 67 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah I know, but I was talking to Jenna, who 68 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, she comes to the house and I was like, 69 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: I think I'm in a cave. I think I am 70 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: going to get the gym membership, and because right after 71 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: I had Sosa, like it just seemed easiest to work 72 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: out at the house, Like I knew that I would 73 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: make it there because I'm just here already. So now 74 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think we'll be able to make it 75 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: out the door into another door. Yeah, and the steermaster 76 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: to get that perky little ass. 77 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: I know, I know. Well, there's a couple of really 78 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: good gyms by your house, so you do you have 79 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: no excuses? 80 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of perky little asses, did you end up 81 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: watching Heated Rivalry? 82 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: Yes? 83 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: The Gold though, the gold that you just took with 84 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: the yes to follow? Tell me everything you liked you 85 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: didn't like. 86 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: I didn't know what the heck I was getting myself 87 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: in too, right, I had no idea. Oh my god, 88 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: I have so many thoughts. I don't even know where 89 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: to begin. Okay, at first, I was like, what is 90 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: this show? Like, I don't really understand it. I wasn't 91 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: expecting it, and then somehow it completely captured me and 92 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 2: I couldn't figure out why, Like, this was a show 93 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: that I was like, what do what is it about 94 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: this show that I love? And it wasn't about gay men. 95 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: The shows to me is not about gay men. This 96 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: is about men in general. Right. He the creator of 97 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: the show, did such a beautiful job at displaying the 98 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: entire arc of the human expression, and I can't. So 99 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: It's like the guys were tender and passionate and masculine 100 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: and hunky, and they fought and they were lovers, and 101 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden it was like boom, like 102 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: hardcore fuck me, And I think that that's what I want. 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: That's what I am desiring in a partner, someone that 104 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: has all of that tenderness yea, the emotional availability, but 105 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: then someone that could. 106 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: Just be really hard I know, right or rock my world. 107 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: That's probably yeah there, I Hey, I don't sensor yourself 108 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: for me, I would. So this show came to my 109 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: front door through my friends Nick and Joe, and they 110 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: are a gay couple who I've known for a few 111 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: years now. We go to Hawaii with them and they're 112 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: the ones who are like, you have to watch it, 113 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: And then I started hearing about it everywhere I turned 114 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: for the most part it was from gay men who 115 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: are saying, you have to watch this, you have to 116 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: watch it. And I knew what the story was about. 117 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I get so which 118 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: is so weird because I'm like, not shy about anything, 119 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: and I talk about sex all the time. But I 120 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: get so funny when I'm watching something. It could whether 121 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: it's two men, two women, man and woman, threesomes, one sums, 122 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I start going, oh my gosh, this 123 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: is intense. I don't think I can do it right now. 124 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: I have to be in the mental headspace right And 125 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: so it took me like four days to get through 126 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: the first episode because the first episode is like they're 127 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: all in right. Once I got through it, and by 128 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: the way, I've had many people, even gay men, say 129 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: the first episode it was really hard because I was like, 130 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: what is this show really? I get through it finally 131 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is one of the greatest 132 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: shows I have ever watched in my life. And them 133 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: tying in this not random couple but one of the 134 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: other teammates. He goes by Scott, Scott and Kip. I 135 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: think it was like episode three, and you're like, oh, 136 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: this is like, who's this couple? And it shows like 137 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: their love story and it's very different from Ilia and 138 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Hollander's relationship, and I'm like, oh, this is fun. Maybe 139 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: we're going to start seeing like a different They're like 140 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: integrating them in some fun way. The entire show had 141 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: me in my feels the entire time, and it was 142 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: interesting to talk to other people about it because gay 143 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: men love it and women love it. And actually, the 144 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: actor who plays Hollander said, it's funny to me that 145 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: straight men talk about how they can't watch it because 146 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: of the man on man aspect. This is not verbatim 147 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: what he said, but when it's to women hooking up, 148 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: like everyone needs to watch it, and I think that 149 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: that's interesting too, because I sometimes wonder, I'm like, what 150 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: is that? 151 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: Like? Did it? 152 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: Does watching stuff like that make you uncomfortable? Not even 153 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: man on man, but like just people having sex and 154 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: it being that vivid right in front of you, or 155 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: can you see past it to the actual story. I know, 156 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: I'm asking you a very dumb question because you're an actor, 157 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: so of course you can see past it. 158 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen I wasn't. I was never shocked 159 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: by any of the sex scenes because I've had I've 160 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: seen one, I've had sex, I've made two babies, and 161 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: I've seen I've seen a bunch of different types of 162 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: sex throughout my career as an actor, and I've experienced 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: it right. I did it. I had a crazy sex 164 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: scene in Ray Donovan with Leev Streiber, and I've done 165 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: it in You and Aquarius and like, But I'm also 166 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: someone who's very ope. I feel really comfortable. I know 167 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: this sounds weird, and there's like a whole psychology thing 168 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: behind it. I feel really comfortable doing a sex scene, 169 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: sometimes more so than I do being intimate in my 170 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: own personal life. And I've had that's like a hurdle 171 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: that I've had to you know, overcome and understand and 172 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: like pill back the layers of why. But it wasn't uncomfortable. 173 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: It was and not only that, but it was shocked 174 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: so beautifully. It wasn't bright lights, it didn't make it 175 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: like cheesy, it wasn't performative. It was like this connection 176 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: and they when they were silhouetted and the let I 177 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: just it was done so so well and it was 178 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: so beautiful to see that. You know, people say like, oh, 179 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: they felt safe, and it's like no, like safety is 180 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: actually what kept them from not connecting, right. They had 181 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: to become unsafe in order to like come together and 182 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: feel this, like be vulnerable and open and like say 183 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: like I choose you, and I like I love you 184 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: for who you are. I don't know, it's just the 185 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: whole show. I literally probably cried three times throughout all 186 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: of it. 187 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: I have chills as you're talking about it. I don't 188 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: know what it was about that show that it was 189 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: like the characters and when Ilia is sitting on the 190 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: phone and he, you know, is upset about his family 191 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: and he never wants to come back to Russia, and 192 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: Hollander's like, why don't you tell me how you're feeling? 193 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: But in Russian? And that's like the first time that 194 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:08,119 Speaker 1: we actually hear Ilia talk about how much he loves Hollander. 195 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, this guy, who's like, are you crying? 196 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: I am, because that was one of the scenes that 197 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: I was like, I think that's what the world is 198 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: yearning for. It's like we don't need to speak the 199 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 2: same language. There's so much shit going on right in 200 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: all of different parts of the world. But just hearing 201 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: his tone and like he was in that tunnel and 202 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: was like, I think it was like pink, and they 203 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: kept on going back and forth. I was like, oh 204 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: my god, Yes, this is it, this is it. 205 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: Oh, they're comparing that to that episode specifically to Breaking Bad, which, 206 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: as we know, Breaking Bad is like critically acclaimed, and 207 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: they say some of those episodes are the best television 208 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: that's ever been created thus far. And so they they've 209 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: When I say they, I mean people who are TV 210 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: critics are saying that that is one of the tops 211 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: right now. And I felt the same way because there's 212 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: not much that moves me in TV. I'm very particular. 213 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: I tend to lean towards comedy or very very dark stuff, 214 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: and it just the whole thing. I want to give 215 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: it the respect that it deserves because it is. It 216 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: is more. I tell people, you have the first episode, 217 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: it has to be abrupt like that so that you 218 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: understand how this started. Like we've all been in a 219 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: situation where it starts as like we're just fucking and 220 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: then the feelings start coming into play, and then you 221 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: start understanding like what you want, who you are. So 222 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: that's another level that you know. Although I consider myself 223 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: an ally, I am not gay. I'm not a gay man, 224 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: so I don't know what that journey looks like. But 225 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: the way that they painted that picture that went from like, 226 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, basically just fuck buddies for one person, the 227 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: bisexual man ilia to just this beautiful I mean, being 228 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: caught by the dad in the final episode and him 229 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: going and having to come out, and it's just like, 230 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is the best shit I've ever 231 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: watched in my life. 232 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think what's so beautiful, at least for me, 233 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 2: about that moment is that in those scenes and in life, right, 234 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: we're so used to being ready to embrace the rejection, 235 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: the shame as like the audience, we're like, oh my god, 236 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: this dad is going to fucking explode, and his son's 237 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: supposed to be this masculine, like he had this idea 238 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: of who his son was supposed to be, and it doesn't. 239 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: It Actually like the show allows you to go, oh, 240 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: that's the reaction that they want, that's the action that 241 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: we need to have. Like and I didn't know this 242 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: going in, but the show is so healing for me, right, 243 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: It just calmed my nervous system in a way that 244 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: I was not expecting like at all. I love hearing that, 245 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: and especially the scene with the mom when he comes 246 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: to the mom and he says and like she doesn't say, 247 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: like how dare you not be able to you know, 248 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 2: like she doesn't take it on her. She says to 249 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: him in such a kind way, and I don't know 250 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: exactly the exact lines, but she says, I'm sorry I 251 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 2: couldn't make you feel like you couldn't come to. 252 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: Me, I know on the on like this front steps, 253 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: I know. 254 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: And I was thinking for London and Riley. I always 255 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: want them to be able to come to me, like 256 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: no matter what. And I know there's gonna be some 257 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: things that they're not gonna want to tell me. But 258 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 2: like I as a mom, I don't care if my 259 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: kids come to me and say, mom, guess what, Like 260 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 2: I'm gay, and I think my kids know by now. 261 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: I would say, I love you, like you don't have 262 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: to be a half person. I want you to be 263 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: a whole person. Don't pretend that you're a straight person 264 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: out in the world and then you come home and 265 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 2: in your room you're gay or you're having these experiences 266 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 2: or feelings like just be who you are. 267 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and that's the number one thing I think 268 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: as a parent that I want to practice. I don't 269 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: want to put the pressure on my kids where it's like, 270 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: for example, you have to go to college, you have 271 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: to do this. It's like, do we need to honor commitments. 272 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: That's what we're working on right now, Ocean. You know, 273 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: she's started something and she's like, I don't want to 274 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: do it anymore. And I'm like, we got to fulfill 275 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: the commitment, and then once the commitment's over, we can reevaluate. 276 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: But I just want to be that safe space where 277 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: we know that no matter what, you can be your 278 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: authentic self here and the pressure of the world is 279 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: gone and you don't have to feel the weight of 280 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: the world on your shoulders like at home. You can 281 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: just be you know. 282 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: I'm learning that now. 283 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'm like, what can I do because I 284 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: feel like my mom was does not. I think we're 285 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: just born with a certain mind and even though you 286 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: grow up in you know, a home, because my mom 287 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: is very much like you don't want to do that, 288 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: don't do it, Like, just live life, have fun. I 289 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: worked at a dental office because I only had to 290 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: work three days a week, like that's her mindset, Like 291 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to enjoy life, but you we just give 292 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: birth to certain minds and they go out into the 293 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: world and sometimes we have a tremendous impact on them, 294 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: and sometimes we don't. There are things we don't have 295 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: control over. So I think you and I are very 296 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: much on the same page. And watching that, I felt 297 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: the exact same way, and it was I and I 298 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: shouldn't compare the two at all, but it's the only 299 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: other show that has like same sex, but it's girl 300 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: on girl action with Brittany is it Britney Snow? Britney 301 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: Snow and people I would not stop hearing about hunting 302 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: wives like with everybody. It felt like and I have 303 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: to say, I could not get through it. It was 304 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: so triggering for me. Amber why, I don't know, watching 305 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: the way that some of those the people on the show, 306 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: like the guy who was running for governor and his 307 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: wife and I what's the actress's name? They had to 308 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: put her in a red wig, oh Malin Ackerman. So 309 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: by the way, I love her, She's a great actress. 310 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: But watching it and the amount of dishonesty and what 311 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: they would go to to cover shit up just feels 312 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: a little too familiar to me. Really, mm hmm. 313 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: Can you elaborate, because now I kind of want it. 314 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: That's like you know what I'm talking about? No, you will, 315 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: You just dangled the carrot. But I want to know 316 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: can I peek inside just little bit more so I 317 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: could go, oh, you know, to see if we have 318 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: the same experience experiences that I have had with somebody. 319 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: The length that they would go to to make sure 320 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: the truth was not revealed. It was triggering to me 321 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: to watch that and watch Britney Snow's character be like 322 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: what the fuck? Like, I feel like I'm going insane. 323 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: It took me to a place where I'm like, this 324 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: feels very familiar. 325 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: To me, and I know what you're talking to get 326 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: it like it. But like I always say, the truth 327 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: always is revealed, whether it's five minutes from now, five 328 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: years from now. So there's that I'm interested to hear 329 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 1: how you feel about this. Britney Snow's characters spiral. It 330 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: drove me fucking crazy that she had hit rock bottom 331 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: and killed somebody, and granted she had something horrendous happened 332 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: to her right like just gut wrenching what she went 333 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: through with the loss of the baby, and then she 334 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: started drinking and spiraling, and then she was drinking and 335 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: driving gets sober. The fact that she started like drinking again, 336 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: and every time I would see her look at her 337 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: phone and be like, yeah, I can stay a little longer, 338 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: and the husband's texting her, I was like, go home, 339 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: like what are you doing? It tricked with me. I 340 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: didn't like it. 341 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: I loved Hunting Wives. First of all, I loved it. 342 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: I thought it was so it's so different than the 343 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: other show. It's like Hunting Wives is is seduction and secrecy, 344 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: and then Heated Briberly is like uplifting, uplifting and honest. 345 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: I really love that, right, It's honest, it's connection. It's 346 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: but Hunting Wives. At first I was like no. And 347 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: the only reason why I watched it is because I'm 348 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: friends with Mollin and I'm friends with Jamie Newman, who 349 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: are are both phenomenal actresses that I learned too. 350 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: Don't tell them to listen to this episode. 351 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: Okay, well Jamie, don't listen to this. And No, there 352 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: was something that really captivated me. I'm the kind of 353 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 2: person where the pilot really needs to be off the charts, 354 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: and I didn't feel that way about either one of 355 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: these shows, but I stayed long enough to be drawn 356 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: in and understand, like from a storytelling perspective, what the 357 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: writers and creator was trying to do with the show 358 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: Hunting Wives was so fucking hot to me. I was like, 359 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 2: holy shit. But there were times where I was like 360 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: on the edge and I felt like it. 361 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: I was like, you need to sleep with a woman. 362 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: Do you think I'm no, I don't. 363 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: I believe in labels, okay, unless you want them. Like 364 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: for me, I've hooked up with chicks before. I don't 365 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: consider myself to be bisexual. Someone may look at me 366 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: and be like, you've been sexually attracted to women before, 367 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: you're bisexual? Great, whatever. I don't believe in the label. 368 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: I don't think. But if you're getting turned on, but like, 369 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: maybe you need to have a female experience, I don't know. 370 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: It wasn't that I was getting turned on, Okay, it 371 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: was the connection I really value and something that I 372 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: haven't had is real intimate connection. 373 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: Where was there an intimate connection in Hunting Wives? 374 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, when they had sex in 375 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: the closet, when she kisses her for the first time 376 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: when she's going to look for her gun. Right, Yeah, 377 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: but that's because that the redhead with the wig Malin Ackerman. 378 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: She talked about it in an interview that they tried 379 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: to get her a good wig and it didn't come 380 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: in time. 381 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: They were terrible, But I wasn't bad though. 382 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: Because she's such a great actress. I didn't even notice 383 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: what was on her head. I saw the interview and 384 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: was like, oh, you're right, the wig is funky, but 385 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: like I didn't notice because she is a phenomenal actress 386 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: so much so, and same with Britney Snow that I 387 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: was triggered by the show and everyone else is like 388 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: triggered why. 389 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, it's so dark. It's taking me back to 390 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: places I don't want to go. 391 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: But I that's like my that's my jam. I love 392 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 2: really dark shit when it comes to storytelling, except for 393 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: The Pit. I've been watching The Pit lately with Riley, 394 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: and that's more like I'm like, oh, I can't watch them, 395 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 2: like cut open the guy's leg. 396 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: Right, they had a lot of I think they won 397 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: like quite a few awards this season, right, I think 398 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: I go season? 399 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: They did? They did, so I turned it on for Riley, 400 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, this is a nice family 401 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: show to watch before bedtime. Not so much, but now 402 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: we're both addicted to it. But yeah, I mean it's 403 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: both of the shows are great. I'm so happy that 404 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: I got through both of them. 405 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: You don't need to have a female experience. Let's round 406 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: that thought out. 407 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, no it's not. It's not for me. And now 408 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: that I'm sober, I definitely don't. I would, I don't, 409 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: I couldn't. I don't think I would need a little lube. 410 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 3: You don't want these fingers touching you. This is what 411 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: giving up the vape looks like. How's the vape going yet? 412 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: Not good? Bitch? Oh wait that yes this finger I 413 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: peeled it off because I'm tweaking. 414 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: But let me tell you something. Wait on pause for 415 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: a second. I am really proud of you. That's a 416 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: big deal, and that's a really hard thing to kick. 417 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. Yeah, it will get easier. The new 418 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: boobs will be worth it. It is important to note 419 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: I have never hooked up with a female sober either, hmm, 420 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: which doesn't tell me much because I even went into 421 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: panic cooking up with a man sober. So I'm like 422 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe I just need to get back on 423 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: all the horses. 424 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 2: We'll see listen. It's never too late, It's. 425 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: Never too late. And yes, I did find Hunting Wives 426 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: is definitely sexy. Maybe if I watch it at a 427 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: later date. There's obviously they're in such different categories. I 428 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: just found it interesting that so many people are I 429 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: live in an LA bubble where everything's kind of you know, 430 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: you've lived here. It's like, yeah, we're free and we're accepting. 431 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: But the rest of the world is not lost on 432 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: me that it's not like that. And I just was like, 433 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: it's so interesting that I hear about how fantastic Hunting 434 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: Wives is, and I've heard about heated rivalry from the 435 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: gay community and gay community only until of course I 436 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: look it up and then obviously it's getting all of 437 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: this praise. But a lot of the interviews talked about 438 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: how there's a lot of people who still are not 439 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: not ready, and I think looking past the sexual aspect 440 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: and looking at like the intimacy, because we've all experienced 441 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: that is the name of the game. Though I can't 442 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: really I can't relate to a gay man. There were 443 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: moments that I was like gosh, I know that feeling 444 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: of like wanting somebody so bad yea, and to them 445 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: it's like just sex and then the moment that they're 446 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: like I love you, and it's like, oh my gosh, 447 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: this is the best of my life. 448 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: I know. I was like watching it. I was like, 449 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: there's so much that I could take as a straight woman, 450 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: like bringing into a relationship and having that intimate moment 451 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: like I want like I said, I want someone that's 452 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: open and vulnerable. One minute it was just and by 453 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: the way, like the shower scene when they're both checking 454 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: each other out, these guys are freaking hot, Like I 455 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: was like. 456 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: Damn, I know, they're so good freaking hot, And so 457 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: that also helped. We have to wait until twenty twenty 458 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: seven for a new season, but lucky for you, you 459 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: Hunting Wives fan twenty twenty six. 460 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, oh, I'm so excited to see my. 461 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: Girls try to finish the first season. 462 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: Oh finish, don't worry. God. 463 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: I love talking shows with you because you've been like 464 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: in it, like you're a viewer. You watch scripted television 465 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: the way I probably watch reality TV, Like I know 466 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: how the sausage is made, so I have I view 467 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: it differently. I view it as like someone who's in it, 468 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: but also you just know like what goes into making 469 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: something really great. 470 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, those sex scenes felt so real and I felt 471 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: like a fly on the wall. And again like the 472 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: way they were shot, they weren't like over the top. Oh, 473 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: they were just so good. But yes, I find myself 474 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 2: and this is a real problem and I have to 475 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: like say and stop it, like, just enjoy what you're 476 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: like the story of it. Yeah, I find myself looking 477 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 2: at like, oh, that was a good camera angle. Oh 478 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: the lighting is really good. Oh that was a good choice. 479 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: Oh look at that. You know something in the background, 480 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: like I really far. 481 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes you you're a little too you know how the 482 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: sausage is made a little too much. 483 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I dissect it and I have to like pull 484 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: back and go no, just enjoy what you're watching, enjoy 485 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: the process and the storytelling of it. 486 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: So, yeah, your hair looks really good today. Do you 487 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: have clippins? 488 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: I did you know? I woke up this morning I said, 489 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: I want to be a mermaid. 490 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: It's so long. 491 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what is that? 492 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: Like your natural length, and it's the clippins are just 493 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: for fullness. 494 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: No, my hair's like right, I don't know, maybe above 495 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: my nipples a little bit. 496 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: It looks so good. 497 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: But I put them in because I wanted link today. 498 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: I love it. What's on the schedule the rest of 499 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: the day. 500 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 2: Oh, it's snowed, which is so rare, so I have 501 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: to I have to see if I actually have to 502 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: get my snow plower out. So I'm going to go 503 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: out there with my extensions and my boots and plow 504 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: plow my driveway. 505 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Get some content. 506 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to plow that, plow that driveway. That's like, yeah, 507 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get my boobs looked at. Because before 508 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: I get my boob job, I have to do a 509 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: panel of blood work, and then they have to make 510 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 2: sure I'm doing the ultrasound to make sure there's nothing 511 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: in there that shouldn't be. Oh good, okay, well let 512 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: me know how that goes. I actually have the CO 513 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: two fate, Like started doing a CO two facial yesterday. 514 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: Do you see the spots? 515 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: Oh? You ended up doing it. 516 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: I did a spot treatment. I didn't do the whole thing, 517 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: so she just did my dark spots. 518 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: You don't even have those. We need to talk before 519 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 1: you do shit. Because I think you make things up 520 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: in your brain. 521 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: Well, of course I make things up in my brain. 522 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: You have the most gorgeous skin and the best jawline ever. 523 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, but no I do. I do have 524 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: some and cancer runs very skin. Cancer runs very deep 525 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: in my family. So I'm highly paranoid about sun spots. 526 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 2: And then she did, like the chest, she did a 527 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: chest like to test it. Right, like a lot of 528 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: my sun damages up. I wore my neck and my 529 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: what is his phone called your clollor call her? Where's 530 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: your clapical? 531 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't know. We don't even know what 532 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: fash is. 533 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: Anyway, she did a test spot. I'm really happy. I 534 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: want to see how how it looks. And it's the winter. 535 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but keep the listeners updated. They love like little 536 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: tips and tricks. 537 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: No, I'm going to That's why I actually took before 538 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: and after pictures and I took some video while I 539 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: was there, and then when I come back, then I 540 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: could really peel, you know, my face off with this laser. 541 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: I know it's probably an addiction. I probably have an 542 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: addiction that I haven't addressed. 543 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: Hey, better that than the booze baby, Better that than 544 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: the booze. 545 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 2: I know my sister did have me pour her a 546 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: glass of wine last night because she had the baby upstairs. 547 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: I didn't like put the cup up to me, but 548 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: as I was pouring it, I did smell it, and 549 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: I was like, oh fuck, this smells so good. I 550 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: know I missed wine. The smell of wine is so 551 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: good for me. 552 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: But but to me, she's a woman that goes to 553 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: this day I'm not gonna older or the deli, but 554 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: she gets I've seen her multiple times. She sits in 555 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: the same booth, orders a plate of cheese fries and 556 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: drinks some martini and I'm like, Okay, that woman is 557 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: living the dream. And she always has a headscarf on 558 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: and wears her sunglasses and she's so fabulous. Stop it's 559 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: gonna be us. I can't wait. 560 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: It's gonna be US, Italy or somewhere. I don't want 561 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: to be like at Whole Foods in Sherman Oaks. That's 562 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: like not like, all right, don't be fucking rude. I 563 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: go to that Whole Foods, bitch, Listen, I don't. I don't. 564 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: I love Whole Foods. But when I'm older, if I'm 565 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: going to be doing that. 566 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: I want to be in. We'll be on a yacht, 567 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: bro obviously, Okay. 568 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, my yacht will be parked and I'll just 569 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 2: be getting off the yacht to go to my favorite 570 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: spot and get back on the yacht and sail away 571 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 2: with you. 572 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's no drinking problem on the yacht for all. 573 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: As long as we have our floaties on, we'll be fine. 574 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm not encouraging a relapse. 575 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, thanks for tuning into another amazing episode of 576 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: an unlikely affair, and let us know your thoughts. I 577 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: want to hear everyone's opinion on heated rivalry, right, It's 578 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: so funny that word is so rivalry rivalry versus Hunting Wives. Yeah, 579 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: I know English, I know one has nothing to do 580 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: with the other. But I'm telling you Hunting Wives was 581 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: like everyone, it's the press show on television. 582 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, everyone fucking calmed down anyway. I 583 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: love you and I love you guys. Thanks for listening. 584 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: Amber hit me up later if you're bored. 585 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: All right, piece out, peacey, guys. Hye, guys,