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Speaker 1: By the way, when are we given away the sign

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Speaker 1: This week's slate is especially robust. It's a thicker slate. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Stu knows a thing or two about stealing thunder, Dan,

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Speaker 2: To me, why don't we start at high noon East

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Speaker 2: road at Baylor. As per usual, Dana have questions.

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Speaker 1: To ask you, A bunch of questions, all right, hit

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Speaker 2: need you to help me sus it out, all right. First,

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma has struggled against every team they've played inside the

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Speaker 2: They've also, to be fair struggled at number one twenty

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Speaker 2: been since Caleb Williams took over. But Baylor is eighteenth, Dan,

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Speaker 2: Yes they are, and this is a road game. Do

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Speaker 2: what do we make of Baylor losing to TCU last

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Speaker 2: the Oklahoma transfer. Nobody had any tape on him. I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming it was kind of a game plan that came

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Speaker 2: those two factors concerned you more about this matchup?

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Speaker 1: I am more concerned about Baylor's defense more than anything

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Speaker 1: a drive to drive scenario with Gary Bohannon. With some

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Speaker 1: So I'm still most concerned with Baylor's pass defense with

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Baylor home dog the week, Dan.

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Speaker 1: Well't just get Kilachi's. We talked about that. I'll get

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Speaker 2: I just like the points here. I'm assuming you're going

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Speaker 2: Hopefully I like it elsewhere High Noon, ABC, Michigan on

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Speaker 2: No idea what's going to happen in this game.

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Speaker 2: Many games in the Big Ten that for which that

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Speaker 2: Where are you at in this game? On these teams

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Speaker 1: The underthinking gentleman or ladies viewpoint of this game would

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Speaker 1: This game looks strong for a portion of it, and like, well,

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Speaker 1: I was holding only catches ninety four to one hundred

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Speaker 2: Like everybody move in the football, Cad McNamara is going

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Speaker 1: They're in there against probably the best past d he

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Speaker 2: All year long, clearly. But that being said, the Penn

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Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, He's just not He's not that good,

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Speaker 2: And also I agree with you, what is the second move?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they can't run. They never can run.

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Speaker 2: It's maddening. They can throw, But I just I don't

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Speaker 1: you also have to mention the fact that late game

434
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Speaker 1: James Franklin in a close match, that's not fair. He's

435
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Speaker 1: late game.

436
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: James Franklin has been better as of late. Okay, he's

437
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: been better.

438
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm okay, he's still in that's more that's filed under underthinking.

439
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 2: He's still in there.

440
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: Okay, he's been better. Okay. So my thought is, I'm

441
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: just gonna take Michigan. I think this is a game

442
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: that is custom built for Michigan to win. Now, Jim

443
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: Harball loses these games. I know. I'm with you.

444
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: I am with you on this one. I am with

445
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Speaker 2: you on this.

446
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: Is this any sort of out game? Is this a

447
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: white out? Is this a blue out?

448
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 2: No, it's twelve o'clock.

449
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: Oh it's it's it's a nooner. Oh so it's not

450
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: a white out. Okay, yeah, I think I'm going to

451
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: Michigan here. It worries me that easier said than done.

452
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: Limit Schehn dads into merely a good game, right, Like

453
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: he gets open, he's going to get his, and Barker

454
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: Washington's good. The tight ends seem okay. But I think

455
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: you're right. I think in terms of worry some performances,

456
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: the Penn State offense still looms there.

457
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. The Penn State offense is a

458
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: microcosm for the entire Texas team. There's one move, right,

459
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 2: and it is throwing to Johan Dotson or throwing in general, right,

460
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: And I just don't think that's the way to beat Michigan.

461
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: So we agree. Yeah, all right, we'd be a big

462
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 2: win for Michigan here, no doubt about it.

463
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Speaker 1: On the road, out about.

464
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Speaker 2: It, three thirty CBS, Georgia minus twenty and a half points. Yeah,

465
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Speaker 2: on the road at Tennessee. I am I am hanging

466
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Speaker 2: the yellow Believe sign from Ted Lasso on this podcast.

467
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Speaker 1: You can't make a Ted Lasso reference and count it

468
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Speaker 1: towards your fantasy things.

469
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Speaker 2: I won't count it.

470
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Speaker 1: If it has to happen organic, I won't count it.

471
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: I won't count it. Yeah, I want to believe in

472
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: the worst way because Georgia has been the only team

473
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Speaker 2: this season that has been immune to the chaos. You

474
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 2: look at this game, it's on the road, Tennessee's ride

475
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: and high beat Kentucky a week ago. Neiland Stadium is

476
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Speaker 2: going to be rocking, And so, Dan, I can't believe

477
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Speaker 2: I'm doing this.

478
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm ready in.

479
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: The spirit of a crazy season, and perhaps at the

480
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Speaker 2: risk of ruining the little credibility that I actually have,

481
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: I am just going to go ahead and say it.

482
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Speaker 2: I'm picking Tennessee to score more than thirteen points here, Dan, is.

483
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Speaker 1: That your lock of the week? That very specific take

484
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Speaker 1: of you.

485
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Speaker 2: Hour, dear lock that up?

486
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Okay? I think Tennessee scores more

487
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Speaker 1: than thirteen. I went back and forth with this one

488
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Speaker 1: because traditionally speaking, excellent teams have one to two weeks

489
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Speaker 1: where they're pushed. Now, even if they're blowing teams out

490
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: most of the time, and even if they run the table,

491
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Speaker 1: even if they win the national championship and don't drop

492
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Speaker 1: a game, there are those games where they're pushed. The

493
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Speaker 1: Alabama teams, the Oklahoma teams, any team that has won

494
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: a national championship, LSU, Clemson, whatever, right, LSU wins the

495
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: national championship with an all time offense. In twenty nineteen,

496
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: they're pushed to the brink by Alabama. Right, yeah, there

497
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: is going to be that game. And if it's not

498
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Speaker 1: Tennessee during the regular season, I don't know who it's

499
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Speaker 1: gonna be. So just judging by the rules of mathematics,

500
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Speaker 1: it seems like Tennessee has the best chance of pushing Georgia.

501
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: What that looks like is probably coverage bus or breakdowns

502
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: are really smart play calling, trick plays that gets Tennessee

503
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: to twenty eight points or something like that, and they

504
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: lose this game thirty seven to twenty eight, but going

505
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter it's twenty four to twenty one

506
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: or something like that, and you're like, ooh, this is

507
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: this is tricky.

508
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

509
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Speaker 1: The problem is, in order to take the points, you

510
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: have to believe that a team has a chance of

511
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: keeping it neck and neck. To me, that's sort of

512
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: what I believe in, and the Tennessee defense is not

513
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: there for me. That's the worrisome thing. Now, other side

514
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: of the ball, Stetson Bennett has not looked perfect. Stetson

515
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: Bennett has made mistakes. Stetson Bennett looks like he has

516
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: a definitive ceiling. He wins games for a great team.

517
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: It's hard to complain too vigorously. But I just don't

518
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: think the Tennessee defense is the one to take advantage

519
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: of his potential shortcomings. So I am actually going to

520
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: give the points because I am not a ted Lasso

521
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: believer in Tennessee at this point because of the defense,

522
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: and that the worrisome thing to me is, you know

523
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee was without running backs last week, and that if

524
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: Georgia does a reasonable enough time, reasonable enough job against

525
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: the pass, what is that second move, what is that

526
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: third pitch? Whatever? Yeah, Tennessee, And in order to beat

527
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: Georgia and a team of Georgia's defense is caliber, you

528
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: have to be locked in at quarterback, you have to

529
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: be locked in on defense to be forcing turnovers and

530
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: getting off the field quickly. And it's a lot of points,

531
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Speaker 1: but I'm just not going to concern like george has

532
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: been covering spreads, this has not been a team that

533
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: has come up short. As it relates to Vegas interpretation.

534
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: They got Georgia right, They've They've been pretty locked on

535
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: with Georgia right now. The win probability for this game

536
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: is eighty percent in favor of Georgia. You could talk

537
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: me into one hundred percent. You really could. And yeah,

538
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: that's saying something because Tennessee is probably again, talk me

539
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: into it. Sure, the best regular season team that George

540
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: has got on his schedule, the entirety of their schedule,

541
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Speaker 2: the entirety of their schedule, not counting an SEC championship.

542
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: But woke up and down right, you could talk yourself

543
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: into Tennessee as that team with the way that they've

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Speaker 2: been playing.

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Speaker 1: With Auburn Tennessee on a neutral field right now.

546
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: You could talk me into Tennessee winning that game. Okay,

547
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: George is gonna win this game. And I did look

548
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: at the Tennessee defense as well. I found a lot

549
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: of the same stuff you did. Overall, they're about the

550
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: same as last year, to be fair, maybe better against

551
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: the pass, a little worse against the run, but they're

552
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: just gonna have trouble stopping the Georgia offense. And they're

553
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: gonna have even more trouble keeping Hendon Hooker upright against

554
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: this Georgia defense. He's gonna be running for his life

555
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: all day. So I do think they get to fourteen,

556
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: which in and of itself is a huge accomplishment because

557
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: nobody's gotten over thirteen thus far.

558
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, Tennessee's offense, if we want underlying

559
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: numbers specific to what you just mentioned, keeping Hendon Hooker

560
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: upright one hundred and twenty sixth and sac rate nationally

561
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: on standardowns one seventeenth passing downs one to twenties.

562
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Speaker 2: It's not good. It's not good. He's gonna be running. Yeah,

563
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: he's gonna be running. I think it's thirty eight to fourteen.

564
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Speaker 1: So you think they score more point than the thirteen.

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00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: Thirty eight fourteen I do believe, though hashtag believe.

566
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Speaker 1: I have Tennessee scoring more than that. They scored what

567
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: twenty one last season, something like that, twenty twenty one

568
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: points last year. I think the final score in this

569
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: is something like thirty eight seventeen thirty eight, twenty forty

570
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Speaker 1: one twenty so I guess would be forty one to

571
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: twenty would be my Georgia covering score. But yeah, I

572
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Speaker 1: think they get to twenty three thirty.

573
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Speaker 2: ABC Perdue perdue on the road at Ohio State. Ohio

574
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: State favored by twenty in the Horseshoe. It has been

575
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: quite a run for this Perdue team hung with Notre

576
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: Dame for a while back in September. I watched that game.

577
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: Scared the crap out of me.

578
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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks.

579
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Speaker 2: Yep, there were a couple moments where it got harry.

580
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: Notre Dame pulled it out, but then Perdue hung with

581
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: Minnesota before we knew that Minnesota was going to be decent.

582
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: They went to kinnicked off Iowa. That kind of started

583
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: this whole thing a month ago, and then last week

584
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: they joined knocked off Michigan State. Correct, the question of

585
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: the week is whether or not they can do it again.

586
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: That's been the popular thought experiment over the last couple

587
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: of days. This is from ESPN's Chris Flicka quote. With

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00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: a win at Ohio State, Purdue can become the eighth

589
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: team to defeat three ap Top six teams in a

590
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: single regular season, and the very first to do it

591
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 2: as an unranked team in any of the three, let

592
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Speaker 2: alone all three. Sure, we brought this up on the

593
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: Sunday slash Monday recap show. You poop pooed the possibility.

594
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: You said you'd have zero confidence that Purdue can do

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00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: it again. We got tweets about your blatant disrespect for

596
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Speaker 2: the Sans diperstand.

597
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Speaker 1: My anti Boiler sentiment. My my middle brother went to Purdue.

598
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: He's a Purdue alumnus. Your anti Purdue bias is showing

599
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: boiler in my family. After that show, did you go

600
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: back into your own personal conclave? Did you think it over?

601
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: Did you shoot off the white smoke? And did you

602
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: change your mind about Purdue's chances in this game against

603
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. I think Purdue can be competitive in this game.

604
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: I worry that it's a letdown spot. I worry that

605
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: Ohio State is going to be, I don't know, newly

606
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: invigorated and motivated after the escape win against Nebraska, and

607
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, we'll have playoff rankings that are probably not

608
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: going to be super favorable to the Buckeyes. I worry

609
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: about that. It's a lot of points to me because

610
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: I am not positive Ohio State is excellent. I'm just

611
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: not like from day one, right, they go back and

612
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: forth with Minnesota and then eventually pull away. But it's

613
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: not a huge win. But it's week one whatever. Losing

614
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: to an Anthony Brown Oregon team at home not great.

615
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: They make defensive changes, it seems to work. But playing

616
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: Nebraska cl like I just I think it's one of

617
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: those things where college football is largely at the top

618
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: the Hall of very good, not the Hall of fame.

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Speaker 1: And I think Ohio State is an example of that.

620
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: And so I think Purdue's defense, matched with apparently their

621
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: big game ability, I think it keeps it relatively competitive.

622
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Speaker 1: And I have Purdue covering this spread. I think I've

623
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: been losing by I don't know, ten to fourteen points,

624
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: and I think they in the way that I said,

625
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't think Tennessee can keep it competitive for four quarters.

626
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Speaker 1: I think Purdue can. Now it's a letdown spot on

627
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: the road after a huge win. I don't know. Maybe

628
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: there's some Boiler magic floating in the Midwestern.

629
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Speaker 2: Era see, And that's the thing.

630
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Speaker 3: Man.

631
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Speaker 1: By the way, if Purdue beats Ohio State in Columbus,

632
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: this is not me being serious, but it kind of is.

633
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: Do you rank them in the top four? Not fully joking,

634
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: not fully joking because of their wins this year, what

635
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: they've done resume wise. If the is already saying like

636
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: losses don't matter that much, put pre doing, put per doing,

637
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: let's play some chicken. Put the boiler I mean, or

638
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: rank them in the top fifteen rank them in the

639
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: top twelve.

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00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: Three top five wins is pretty damn impressive.

641
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: If wins are more important without a shadow of a

642
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: doubt than losses. And Purdue has lost to maybe the

643
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: second best defense in the country in Wisconsin, a Minnesota

644
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: team with a good defense, and who else have they lost?

645
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: And a top ten Notre Dame. So we're just saying

646
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: they're in the mix. They're in the top ten mix,

647
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: they're beaten top ten teams, they're losing the top teams,

648
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: they're in the mix. We got to have.

649
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Speaker 2: You know, if there were a year ago from unranked

650
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: to number five, this would be it.

651
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm calling your bluff, Gary Barta.

652
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: It's a very interesting proposition. Ohio State's win probability is

653
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: ninety two percent. Okay, every statistical measure I can find

654
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: has Ohio State very big. If you are thinking upset here,

655
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: you are doing it purely on emotion.

656
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: Sure, and you can have you could have been a

657
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: non Spartan believer, and that would have made your pick

658
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: for Purdue a lot easier last week.

659
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm cool with that emotional pick.

660
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: Man.

661
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 2: What are we if not emotional creatures on this show?

662
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: I'm ruined for an upset too. I have nothing against

663
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 2: Ohio State. I've been going on radio shows calling Ohio

664
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: State maybe the best team in the country.

665
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: Is Ohio State really good? Like, I don't know. I

666
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: thought I thought they were. I don't know anymore.

667
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: But I'm ruined for an upset too. Like half the world,

668
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: everybody listening to this show, outside of a few fans

669
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: of a few teams, is pulling for chaos. So who

670
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: am I to judge? Who am I to be any

671
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: different from the rest of you. I'm going points. I

672
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: gotta go points.

673
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: I think if you speak to Ohio State fans, they

674
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: will tell you that this team is not up to

675
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: the standard of previous Ohio Iddy.

676
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: We we were chatting in discord all on Saturday during

677
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: the Nebraska game. They were the first folks to call

678
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: it out like we can't put it all together. Not

679
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 2: sure why, but just hasn't quite materialized in the way

680
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: that minne Ohio State fans at hope. So look, I

681
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: don't know. Ohio State is a better team in my view,

682
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: they got way more talent, of course, but I hashtag

683
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: believe man, let's do the ted Lasso thing. Let's put

684
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: the yellow sign up. Let's slap it on our way

685
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: in and out.

686
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bucks have multiple receivers who are almost

687
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: as good as David Bell. Multiple guys who are almost

688
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: as good as David Bell. That's strong.

689
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: Seven PM ESPN Texas A and M minus two and

690
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: a half on the road at Old Miss. I love

691
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: A and M in this spot.

692
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: Tell me why, because I do not.

693
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: I think it is a good matchup for them for

694
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 2: a couple of reasons. First and foremost, the Old Miss

695
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: defense is not putting the fear of God into anybody,

696
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: especially not on the ground, and that's good news for

697
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: Isaiah Spiller and Devin ah Chan. Okay, it's a good

698
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: game plan if the Aggies can execute. You know where

699
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: I'm at with. Zach Calzada had a great game against Bama.

700
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: I think ultimately a replacement level quarterback, But if they

701
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: don't have to rely on him here in a road spot,

702
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: that's good. Secondly, their defense is genuinely very good. It

703
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: is a top five caliber defense. They're really good against

704
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: the pass. Ole Miss is gonna score, They're gonna get theirs.

705
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: But I still think we see a bit of a

706
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: limited Matt Corral I've got A and M by ten here.

707
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: I think it's something like thirty four to twenty four.

708
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 2: I'm contemplating making it a lock by virtue of the

709
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: strength on defense, especially against the pass, and what I

710
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: think they're going to be able to do on the ground,

711
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: which is run for a ton of yards and control

712
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 2: the clock.

713
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: I like All Miss?

714
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: Really?

715
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why I watch Texas A and M score zero

716
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: offensive touchdowns four days.

717
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: Ago against a good defense, against a good defense.

718
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Against a good defense. All Miss's defense is not where

719
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: Auburn's defense is, absolutely But when I see performances like

720
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: that at home, it concerns me. And I mean, how

721
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: many points do you need to beat Ole Miss in

722
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, thirty, twenty four, twenty seventeen. You tell me,

723
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: if you have an outstanding defense, twenty eight, twenty eight points.

724
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: And you see A and M scoring twenty eight points

725
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: against Ole Miss.

726
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: On the ground, four hundred yards in the ground coming.

727
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: Okay, four hundred yards on the ground, four offensive touchdowns?

728
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: What is jumping out to you? I don't know. I'm

729
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: worried a little bit. I think A and M has

730
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: a very good shot at winning this game because they

731
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: have very good shots of winning every game. You're good

732
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: enough to beat Bami, You're good enough to be basically anybody.

733
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: Matt Carwl's getting healthier. I think Lane Kiffin will scheme

734
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: up really wisely for a and M. It's at home.

735
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: It's tough to win on the road. It's a ranked game.

736
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go all Miss here. Well, I'm gonna go

737
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: the better quarterback at home. I know I look at defense.

738
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: I know I look at the ability to stop big plays,

739
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: which actually Ole miss does. If nothing else, they stop

740
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: the bigger plays. They allow way too much in terms

741
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: of especially running plays and intermedia plays whatever. Ole Missus

742
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: big play defense is there. I like dj Diurkin as

743
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: a defensive mind and play. Let's be extremely clear. But

744
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: the other thing about Ole Miss Their pass rush is

745
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: really good. So if I'm saying big play defense in

746
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: a pass rush to me cover his games and you're

747
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: throwing in the better quarterback. Ole Missus defense is not good,

748
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: but they've been better. They've absolutely sought against Auburn. We

749
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: sought against Liberty, especially in that first half. It's Liberty.

750
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: I get you. I'm there. I'm just saying I don't

751
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: buy Ole miss right now, the number one, the number

752
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: one pass defense excuse me, passing down sack rate in America,

753
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: number eight. Overall, they get to the quarterback. And if

754
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: there's something about A and M that I don't love,

755
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: and they've definitely gotten better, though it's the offensive line.

756
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: I think there are sneaky advantageous matchups for all here.

757
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: Zach Calzada could throw the ball eight times and they

758
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: could win this game by fourteen points.

759
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: Now, if Ole Miss is a fully average defense, nothing special,

760
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: but nothing disastrous against Texas A and M. If I

761
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: were to tell you that without telling you the final score,

762
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: does that change your mind at all? No? No, you're

763
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: still sailing with the Calzada Armada. I am, I am

764
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: okay disagree.

765
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 2: And finally, in our headliners section, Dan the big one

766
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: in the ACC seven thirty ACC Network, NC State on

767
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: the road at wake Forest. Wake Forest favored by two

768
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: and a half three points. Wake took the l last

769
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 2: week against North Carolina on the road. Obviously played well

770
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: enough to win in that game. Was not meant to be. Okay,

771
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 2: we're past it. This week they are back at home.

772
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: They've got another big one against NC State. What's crazy

773
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: is that if you look at their schedule, NC State's

774
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: the best team on it. For wait, Forest, sure it

775
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: is the best team on it. Even more importantly, NC

776
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: State's the only opponent thus far who actually plays any defense. Yeah,

777
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: any defense. None of the previous nine games have featured

778
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: a team that plays defense.

779
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: Listen to this. Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait,

780
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: listen to this. No, no, no, less. Syracuse plays defense. Get

781
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: your mouth.

782
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: Right, sure, Old Dominion, Norfolk State, Florida State, Virginia, Louisville, Syracuse,

783
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: Army Duke in North Carolina.

784
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I've already told you Syracuse plays defense, and.

785
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 2: It's been contagious because Wake doesn't play defense either. Nobody

786
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: plays any defense in this conference except Clemson, but they

787
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: don't play offense. I don't have much of a lean here, Dan,

788
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: I've been high on NC State. They've been pretty good

789
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: since losing to Miami a couple weeks ago. Moving the

790
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: ball shouldn't be an issue, because again, Wake does not

791
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: play defense. It would not surprise me if NC State

792
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: tried to play ball control to keep it out of

793
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: Sam Hartman's hands, keep them off the field. They are

794
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: twenty third in time of possession this season and I

795
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: certainly do their benefit to play more of a slower

796
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: style in this game. This is not a team built

797
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: to win shootouts. I think they're going to try to

798
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: keep the score down as much as they can, certainly

799
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: try to keep the ball out of the wake offense

800
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: as much as they can. I would probably take the

801
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: points here because this feels like a number two and

802
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: a half. Okay, this feels like a game to me

803
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 2: that is very close and has decided on a missed

804
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: extra point or something wonky down the stretch. I am

805
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: not very confident, though I frankly could go either way.

806
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: I am going to go points. I do think NC

807
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: State's got the better defense. I like the fact that

808
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: they at least have the talent to run it, even

809
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: though they've not been very efficient at running it this season,

810
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 2: which is equally as confounding as the Penn State situation

811
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: to me, But give me the points. Give me NC

812
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: State plus two and a half.

813
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're riding high because NC State

814
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: beat Florida State last week on the road. That was

815
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: a Mackenzie Milton game. If memory serves right, they want to.

816
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: Twenty four for mister Mackenzie Milton.

817
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: In the Battle of the Daves, Clawson has one three

818
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: of four. Wake Forest is done a really nice job

819
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: against NC State these past few years. NC State, while

820
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: clearly the better defensive team, if I'm going to look

821
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: at pass rushian ability to stop big plays, both of

822
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: those teams are kind of deficient for the wolf Pack

823
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 1: right now, especially through the air, which is where Wake

824
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: clearly shines. And Wake's pass rush has been pretty good

825
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: even though some of the underlying numbers aren't great. They

826
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: have been able to get home some So I'm going

827
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: Wake here at home. This is for control of the Atlantic?

828
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: Am I right?

829
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: That is? That is correct?

830
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is for control of the Atlantic. Because of

831
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: course wakes lost in North Carolina does not affect their

832
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: their lost column in the ACC. So I'm going Wake here.

833
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: I'm going Wake at home to make a statement, and

834
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm buying relatively low. They had every opportunity in the

835
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: world to win that game against North Carolina, and had

836
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: they won that game fifty eight to fifty five instead

837
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: of lost that game fifty eight to fifty five, does

838
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: that change anything for you?

839
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Yeah, I was gonna say it

840
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: probably doesn't. No, I don't I don't think so. I

841
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 2: think the ye and you're listen.

842
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: You're right.

843
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: Everything you said about NC State is one hundred percent right.

844
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: But going up against a defense for the first time

845
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: this season is meaningful to me. And whether or not

846
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 2: there's a speed bump type of situation where NC State

847
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: is able to slow them down, that really will be

848
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: the operative question here. I do think they can move

849
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: the ball on offense. Everybody's moved the ball against Wake Forest.

850
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: That's correctious, superb. He's been really good, even though their

851
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: offense as a whole has been merely decent. The fact

852
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: that he's I think it's touched on interception ratio something

853
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: like twenty.

854
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: Five to three. He protects the ball really well, really good.

855
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: He's come through in those big moments this season against

856
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: bigger name schools, even if they're not bigger winning names. Yeah,

857
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about NC State and the

858
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: job that they've done this year. I just think it's

859
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: gonna be a uniquely difficult scenario against this way.

860
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: So you're gonna wake minus the number.

861
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna give those points.

862
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: All right, Let's rifle through a bunch of other games

863
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: here today. I have many others on our list. At

864
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: high noon ESPN, Mississippi State on the road at Auburn

865
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: Auburn favored by five and a half. Five and a

866
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: half feels like a lot to me. With two good defenses,

867
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: A my off base.

868
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: You're off base and saying Mississippi State's defense is good,

869
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: oh defense until like a week I know, I know,

870
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: but they've given up a lot through the air, and

871
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: that worries me a little bit. So, I mean, I

872
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: thought just kJ Jefferson was really good and made plays,

873
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: so my imagine bon Nicks is going to be able

874
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: to do that. And tough loss last week against A

875
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: and M on the road, but there's something a little

876
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: too volatile to me about Mississippi State to feel great

877
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: about them, and losing at the gun and then playing

878
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: another good team on the road. I don't know, that's

879
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: just it's too much for me. I'm gonna go Auburn.

880
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: Here, I'm gonna go Misissippi State plus the points. But

881
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 2: I think Auburn wins something like twenty eight twenty four.

882
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: And they won comfortably last year. I believe in December

883
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: Auburn did even though Bonnicks didn't have a good game.

884
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: I believe that was like Bonis had a three or

885
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: four yards per attempt game, but they won comfortably. So

886
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: if we believe him to be evolved and better, then

887
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: I think they will be.

888
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: Twelve o'clock ESPNU UCF on the road at SMU. SMU

889
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: favored by seven to seven and a half. Here, Dan,

890
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 2: who you got?

891
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm going UCF here? Wow, that's right, UCF won the

892
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: ball some defense. I don't trust SMU. I don't. I

893
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: don't trust Mikey Kean. Yeah, oh yeah, I'm trusting Mikey Kane. Look,

894
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: so the results have actually been kind of interesting for

895
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: UCF as they pull it up. They've won four or

896
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: five and three in a row. Right, they beat Memphis comfortably?

897
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: Who just beat SMU whatever? Then trance means to you

898
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: Memphis is not amazing, but they did just beat SMU. Okay,

899
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: and their defense since allowing a ton of points to Cincinnati,

900
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: which I get it was on the road whatever. The

901
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: week before that, they allow sixteen to East Carolina Bowl

902
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: ish team, they allow seven to Memphis, seven to Temple

903
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: not a good team, and ten to two Lane. I

904
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: think they can get some stops. I think they can

905
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: get some stops. Their big play defense is pretty good

906
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 1: and they rush the passer decently enough. I think they're gonna.

907
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: I think SMU team is good, not great. I like

908
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: UCF here because of the specific matchups. Give me the Knights.

909
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: How about that.

910
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: I think the numbers are inflated on the UCF side totally.

911
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: I don't think they're that good. Okay, I don't trust

912
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: mikey Keen. Give me SMU minus the number. We disagree.

913
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: Yet again, we disagree. Three thirty Big Ten Network. Minnesota

914
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 2: on the road, a six and a half point dog

915
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: in Kinnick Stadium against the Iowa Hawkeyes. I don't get

916
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: the logic and laying points in this game. Iowa couldn't

917
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: put away Northwestern and this is a bad Northwestern team.

918
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 2: Made a quarterback move in the game, made a quarterback move,

919
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: and I have a note here that maybe the padilla

920
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: flotilla will provide some lift in buoyancy and drift this

921
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: offense to the promised land.

922
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: It is flotilla, though, correct like in real English.

923
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: And then we got the padilla flotilla.

924
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: The padilla flotilla. We changed padilla to Okay, whatever. But

925
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: we've seen a situation in which a quarterback change has

926
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 1: not paid dues for two or three weeks. Maybe Alex

927
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: Padia is just the guy and Spencer Petris has just

928
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: been too off. And maybe it's not this week, maybe

929
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: it's not next week. But Alex Padia is full on

930
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: pretty good.

931
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm going Minnesota plus the points here as am I

932
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: three point thirty ESPN a big one, Miami minus three

933
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: on the road at Florida State. The Canes have resurrected

934
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: their season and they're on a nice little run here.

935
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: They've won three in a row over NC State, pitt In,

936
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. But they may have a little bit of

937
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: Nebraska in them really, because those games have all been close.

938
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: It's been close all year. Yeah, for Miami. Those three

939
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: wins have been decided by a total collectively of eight points.

940
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: If you go back to the end of September, they've

941
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: had five games decided by a total of thirteen points.

942
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: So I believe in tvd whether it's Tyler van Dime,

943
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 2: Tyler van Dyke, or TV Dinner, whichever moniker you prefer, YEP,

944
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: I believe in the momentum that Miami has. I think

945
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 2: they are the better team. I think they should win

946
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 2: this game. But what scares me is that you throw

947
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: out the rivalry records in a rivalry whatever. Yep, you

948
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: just throw out conventional wisdom, and you got two teams

949
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: that hate each other. Florida State needs to win this

950
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: game to qualify for a Bowl, and so they're going

951
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: to be playing hard as well. They're not gonna be

952
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: just rolling over and taking it here. This is a

953
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: rivalry game, and Florida State has scotten better. So I

954
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 2: went from feeling very confident about Miami to being not

955
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: so confident in Miami to I think mostly being confident

956
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 2: in Miami. But I'm not going to bet any actual

957
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: real money on this game. At one point in time,

958
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: I thought about making this my lock of the year.

959
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that now. I'm just gonna

960
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: play cool. I'm going to say I like the Canes here,

961
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,959
Speaker 2: but I do think that this is another close game.

962
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: The thing that concerns me is there's a very specific

963
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: matchup that Georgia Tech was able to take advantage of.

964
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: And as far as I can see, Jordan Travis is back.

965
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: He was battling the flu, So Jordan Travis is back

966
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: for Florida State. There's a very specific matchup, and that

967
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: is Miami will give up some big runs. Yes, And

968
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: with Jordan Travis back under center and the running backs

969
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: able to perform at times like they're able to perform,

970
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: it's fair to expect a little bit of from Florida State. Yeah. Yeah,

971
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: And that's what concerns me that a team able to

972
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: generate bigger plays on offense like that against Miami, I'm

973
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: seeing is like one hundred and twentieth in terms of

974
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: stopping big running plays. That that specific matchup is concerning. Now,

975
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: how does Florida State defend TVD? It's a reasonable question

976
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: because the defense, while improved, they give up bigger passes

977
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: and that's what obviously Miami's been able to generate. Charleston

978
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: Rambo has gotten loose a couple times this season, So

979
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I go back and forth with this one.

980
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: So we have a dog in a rivalry game at home, right, correct,

981
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Florida State here. Miami on the road

982
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: has been dicey. I get it. TVD is going to

983
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: be really, really strong, But there is something about Miami

984
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: and Miami's improved over these last couple of years in

985
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: terms of penalties and not giving away free yardage. I'm

986
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: just I'm still concerned about those big plays on defense,

987
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: and I really like the way Jalen Knighton has come along.

988
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: But I think Situa, I'm going with the knowles hare.

989
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: I think that's a smart play. I'm going to stick

990
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: to my guns to go Miami.

991
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: But I get it, by the way part of it

992
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: looking at Florida State and saying, Okay, they're kind of

993
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: below average and Miami coming on strong but only as

994
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: a three point favorite. That also concerned me and led

995
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: me to look, I don't know, deeper at this game

996
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: and potential trouble spots for the Canes.

997
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: I agree. By the way I mentioned Nebraska. The news

998
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: from Nebraska was that Scott Frost is going to be retained. Yes,

999
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: he's going to have a restructure contract, getting a paid

1000
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: decrease down from five million to four million, for whatever

1001
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: that's worth. They also fired offensive coordinator Matt Lubick, as

1002
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: well as the quarterback, running back, and offensive line coaches.

1003
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: We will talk about this in more detail on the

1004
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: Friday Show. If you want to get a detailed breakdown

1005
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: of what it looks like at Nebraska, what the landscape

1006
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: looks like and whether or not this was the right move,

1007
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: but we at least needed to mention it here at

1008
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: some point during the show because it was relatively newsworthy,

1009
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: and it just broke within the last twenty four hours.

1010
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 1: I think the part of the restructuring is his buyout

1011
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: gets cut in half right now until next year, is

1012
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: like fifteen down to seven and a half million, five

1013
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: million down to four million, his salary, but it is

1014
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: laden with incentives in the way that Jim Harbaugh's is

1015
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: very similar to the Jim Harbaugh situation in ann Arbor,

1016
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: which turns out to look at this moment pretty good

1017
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: to be kind of a win win for Michigan, depending

1018
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: on what happens against Penn State and Ohio State and whatever.

1019
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: So I on one level, I say to myself, all right,

1020
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: I guess they're they're really giving him a shot, and

1021
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: sometimes an extended opportunity is what it takes. And on

1022
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: the other hand, I think to myself, wonder who turned

1023
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: down Nebraska. I wonder who told Nebraska not feeling it

1024
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: right now? Because I think two things can be true

1025
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: at the same time.

1026
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: Seven pm. Arizona State on the Road at Washington. Yeah,

1027
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: A couple bits of news on the Washington front now.

1028
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: They suspended Jimmy Lake for one game without pay, stemming

1029
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: from an incident on the sidelines.

1030
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: Yep, one after a player physically yep.

1031
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 2: And they also fired John Donovan, which yeah, probably a

1032
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 2: long time coming. They had one hundred and sixty six

1033
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 2: total yards of offense against Oregon last week. The question

1034
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: I have is about the Huskies run defense. I still

1035
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: don't have an answer for the running attack of Arizona

1036
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: State because Rashad White might still be running after that

1037
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: USC game a week ago, and Arizona State has been

1038
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: very good on the ground all year. Washington has not.

1039
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: They can't stop it, correct. I am not locking up

1040
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: ASU on the road. That's been a very bad formula

1041
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: for me in the past. But I do like this

1042
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: matchup a great deal for the Sun Devils.

1043
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: As do I. And who knows as for how long

1044
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy Lake is going to be in Seattle coaching this team,

1045
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: but the job he's done thus far has been and underwhelming.

1046
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: They were in a position last year to beat Oregon

1047
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: if they were able to play in that game and

1048
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: go to the Pac twelve championship game, and then there

1049
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: were expectations that with everything together this year they would

1050
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: be better. Dylan Morris back starting quarterback, A lot of

1051
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: offensive linemen back, secondary looked very strong. I think it's

1052
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: Junior Adams, the receivers coach takes over his offensive coordinator.

1053
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: Not a great history calling plays. He was at Western

1054
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: Kentucky with Mike Sanford called to pretty bad offenses. But whatever.

1055
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: You give everybody the benefit of the doubt. That new place,

1056
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 1: new situation, new fit. I just, by the way, how

1057
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: often does it happen where somebody's a known commodity at

1058
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: coordinator and that known element is yeah, they're not very good,

1059
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: and then they get hired and the reaction is like

1060
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem good, and then it just works out

1061
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: and then he's just like, oh man, we were super

1062
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: duper wrong. I think we've been doing this long enough,

1063
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: especially with your history with my John Donovan as a

1064
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: Penn State fan.

1065
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, this was never gonna work. I don't know.

1066
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like these coaching retreads, you know, I mean,

1067
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: everyone's trying to get better and grow and ive, and

1068
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, you don't fault anyone for going after the

1069
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: job and trying to make a list.

1070
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't even think he was a coordinator since the

1071
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: Penn State he was a running backs coach for the Jaguars,

1072
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 1: so it's it's not like he was honing that skill

1073
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: since Yeah, I like asu here, it's very strange that

1074
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: the Washington defense specifically has fallen off. I know recruiting

1075
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: has fallen off. I know that. God did you see

1076
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: the quote? By the way, not to you know, this

1077
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: is Washington football. I don't think a lot of people

1078
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: care at this point in the season. But after the

1079
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: Oregon game, Jimmy Lake said, look, if we were up

1080
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: twenty one three, twenty four to three and we had

1081
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: to force Oregon to pass it, that's where we would

1082
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: have seen some sacks and some interceptions. And the general

1083
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: reaction was like, Okay, if the score were twenty four

1084
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: to three, yes, maybe that happens, but like, that's not

1085
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: a reality in which we live.

1086
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: So we only had three we would have yeah, come back, Okay.

1087
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: I think I like as here, but as you also

1088
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: a voll little team.

1089
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: But don't even get me started on a su This

1090
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: is why I can't lock them up on the road.

1091
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: But I think that singular matchup they're rushing attack with

1092
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: Rashad White, maybe Jane Daniels to some extent, it's.

1093
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: All you need to do.

1094
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were seven point thirty sec network Arkansas minus

1095
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: two and a half at LSU. Here's your letdown spot

1096
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 2: for LSU.

1097
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 1: Sure or Arkansas? I guess no, Here it.

1098
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: Is for LSU. This is an LSU letdown. They were

1099
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: all geared up for Bama went on the road. Damn

1100
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: near won that game. Played really well all things considered.

1101
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: Now it's back at home against Arkansas. Arkansas coming off

1102
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: a bye and then had a game where kJ Jefferson

1103
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: was really good coming into this one, very efficient. I

1104
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: like Arkansas a lot. Again, a situation where if it

1105
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: weren't on the I'd probably lock up the Hogs. But

1106
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: I think Arkansas wins this one going away.

1107
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: I like Arkansas here as well. It is a letdown spot.

1108
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: I still think it's a letdown spot for both them.

1109
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: Arkansas getting Bowl eligible, beating Mississippi State in the fashion

1110
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: that they did late. Yeah, I worry about LSU still.

1111
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: I think Arkansas's defense still has a ways to go.

1112
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Hogs here

1113
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: on the road. I really don't love these road picks,

1114
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: but LSU is such a unique situation. I'm gonna go Arkansas.

1115
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: Seven point thirty ABC Notre Dame minus five on the

1116
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: road at the Virginia Cavaliers. Dan, what a road spot

1117
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: here for Notre Dame.

1118
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 1: What's the latest as of this second? Have you seen

1119
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: anything before we started recording with Brendan Armstrong's injury status?

1120
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: I have not.

1121
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying as of twenty hours ago. Day to day?

1122
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a spot here for Notre Dame. You can

1123
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 2: only assume the home crowd will be moderately buzzed from

1124
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: a few glasses of Merlow at dinner. I guess in

1125
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: that sense, it's sort of like a hard game Notre Dame. Yeah,

1126
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: but Notre Dame got lucky that this game's on primetime

1127
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: because it's sort of their last real shot to make

1128
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: an impression on the national stage. And Notre Dame's got

1129
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: a national stage every week, granted, but it's in primetime.

1130
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: There will definitely be a brighter spotlight on them on

1131
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: the road in this one. Virginia is diet North Carolina.

1132
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 2: They've got one player and he's day to day. As

1133
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: you just said, Man, the disrespect for Keton Thompson will

1134
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: not be allowed on this show. Who is an extremely

1135
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: gifted weapon for the whose one player, Bernan Armstrong. You

1136
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: stop Brenan Armstrong, you win.

1137
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: Sure.

1138
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's good enough on defense to contain him. Their

1139
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 2: offense is quietly improved to the point where it can

1140
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 2: actually run again. They're going to run again. They are

1141
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: going to run again. They're going to try and make

1142
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: a statement in this game. It is their last chance

1143
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: to do so. They are the better team. I think

1144
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: they win this one going away. Another one that I

1145
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: thought about locking up. I can't do it because no

1146
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: names on the road. When I'm walking up these road teams,

1147
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: it always comes back to bite me. But I would

1148
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: consider maybe revisiting that closer to kickoff, once we find

1149
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: out what the deal is with Brendan Armstrong. But I

1150
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: really like Notre Dame in this spot. I think they're

1151
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: going to come to play all right.

1152
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean they haven't played a road game since early

1153
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: October Notre Dame. That was Virginia Tech, a three point

1154
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: win anytime they've left South Bend this year. So they

1155
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: have the eventual blowout win against Wisconsin, but that was

1156
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: relatively close for a long time and then the close

1157
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: win against Florida State. So not super road tested in

1158
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: the traditional way that teams are at this point. Nope,

1159
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: it's been it'll be what over a month since playing

1160
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: a road game. Yep, it's hard to find something to

1161
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: like about Virginia. If Brendan Armstrong is anything less than

1162
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: eighty five percent of his normal self, you're right, You're

1163
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: absolutely right about that. I don't like Virginia's ability to

1164
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: adapt and find that that's second way to win. And

1165
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: so I searched. I searched because really, Notre Dame has

1166
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: been off the beaten conversational path this year. I mean

1167
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: you mentioned them like they're always a national you know,

1168
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 1: story whatever, but like I don't. I haven't heard any

1169
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: Notre Dame opinions this year, and like last year, we

1170
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: had the whole thing with them joining the ACC for

1171
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: a season that was interesting and qualifying for the ACC

1172
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: Championship game, And what are they going to look like

1173
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: as an actual conference team? Like what kind of statement

1174
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: do you make if you beat Virginia with a hobbled

1175
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: Brennan Armstrong, Like, I don't think Brennan Armstrong is a

1176
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: known name nationally no, So this is their big opportunity

1177
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: late in the year. I thought it was probably last

1178
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: week against uh North Carolina or two weeks ago against

1179
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: North Carolina. So this is going up against what this

1180
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: is the ABC game at seven thirty. It's going up

1181
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: against A and m Ole, Miss, NC State, Wake Forest,

1182
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: and TCU Oklahoma State.

1183
01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

1184
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: Just seems like another one of the games that you

1185
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: can afford to miss as you go out and get

1186
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: enchiladas and fahitus.

1187
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, I said, the evening is the I know,

1188
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: I know of opportunity here.

1189
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go Notre Dame for the same reason

1190
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna run.

1191
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: Really well, we agree, all right, let's close it out here.

1192
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: Four more quick games to mention eight o'clock on Fox,

1193
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: TCU plus thirteen on the road at Oklahoma State, Dan,

1194
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 2: are you feeling Chandler Morris here? Are you all in

1195
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 2: on Chandler Morris plus the points the morementum? Yeah?

1196
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I am too about that. I'm in I'm

1197
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: not feeling the momentum against this defense. I'm taking Oklahoma.

1198
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: State here really minus thirteen?

1199
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, this is one of the few teams I've

1200
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: now started, and I don't love the Oklahoma State offense.

1201
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: But also TCU I think was riding a high of

1202
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: the change and it wasn't working out with Gary Patterson.

1203
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: It was at home, it was a rivalry game. I

1204
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: think this is a huge letdown spot to wager against

1205
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: TCU week to week. They have never looked consistent this season.

1206
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm going Oklahoma State here to win this

1207
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: game like twenty eight thirteen.

1208
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: No kidding, yeah huh, I'm gonna go tcup plus the points.

1209
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what, like you one performance? Yeah, one

1210
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: performance in a very performance. Horn Frogs are back.

1211
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: What as soon as you feel good about TCU, what

1212
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: do they do to you? So you have to look

1213
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: inward and say, I feel great about TCU. I am

1214
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: going against the Frogs. The rational part of me is

1215
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: going against the Frogs. I know, I know, no crazy

1216
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: they do. The Saint Bernard dump is what they do. Yes,

1217
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: that's true. I have I have it right here ty.

1218
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: Ten thirty ESPN Wazoo on the road at Oregon Oregon

1219
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: fans by fourteen, you told me you don't like Oregon

1220
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: in this spot? Wow?

1221
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: Why it's a letdown? Look ahead let down after that

1222
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: emotional Washington win, Looking ahead to Utah, which looks like

1223
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of the bigger games next week.

1224
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: Utah all but has the South wrapped up, So Oregon

1225
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: actually maybe playing Utah twice if everything works out for

1226
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: the Ducks. This is at home where they just don't

1227
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: cover under Mario Cristobal. It's late at night, which can

1228
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: be weird. I think things are adding up in Wazoo.

1229
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: I believe, and I'll pull this up. I don't know

1230
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: if you have the schedule in front of you. Wazoo

1231
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: has been strong on the road, right, they beat Cal

1232
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: they lose to Utah, which is whatever, but that's where

1233
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: they beat as a couple of weeks ago, and Wazoo's

1234
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: coming off of a bye. I think situationally, Oregon doesn't

1235
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: cover at home Wazoo off of a bye. Let down.

1236
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: Look ahead, Take the Kougs. Take the Kougs. Oregon wins

1237
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: this game by seven to ten.

1238
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 2: You are the Oregon whisperer. You know all things Oregon.

1239
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: Oregon is not going to cover this game. But on

1240
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: the if you do like Oregon, the matchup of Oregon

1241
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 1: running the hell out of the ball which, by the way,

1242
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: it's probably still Drake London. But if it's not Drake London,

1243
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: Travis Dies probably the PAC twelve Offensive Player of the Year. Yeah,

1244
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: it's not your guy, Jackson Dart not yet, No yet,

1245
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. He might be. Washington State can't stop

1246
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: the run and Oregon is happy to play Mario Crystal

1247
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: ball man ball. So that's that's the matchup. If you

1248
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: like Oregon that they will crock Pot Lazu.

1249
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,479
Speaker 2: With two other quick ones. North Carolina at Pitt Pitt

1250
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 2: favor by six and a half. This one is on

1251
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 2: Thursday night, Dan.

1252
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna take the home team on short rest.

1253
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: I will not take North Carolina coming off of an

1254
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: emotional win with short rest. I think Pitt covers this

1255
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: game ten thirteen point win.

1256
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go North Carolina plus really yeah short rest

1257
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 2: road team Yeah yeah, okay yeah. And Friday night six

1258
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: pm ESPN two Cincinnati. We just have to throw this

1259
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: out there. Cincinnati minus twenty three and a half on

1260
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: the road at U SFM. I'm gonna go since he

1261
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: sooner or later they have to cover, right, Oh, they

1262
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: will cover this game.

1263
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: Do you still have the plot? PLoP phizz fizz sound

1264
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: at somewhere. I have it somewhere in your soundboard.

1265
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: Pull it up.

1266
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because ucf uf USF that's insulting. South Florida is

1267
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: the cure for the common performance on offense. Their defense

1268
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: may be one of the worst in the country.

1269
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 3: It is.

1270
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: There, you go, Dan, Yeah, the cure for the common offense,

1271
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 1: which Cincinnati has been putting forth at times this year,

1272
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: is your USF defense. So I'm gonna take Cincinnati car

1273
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: all right.

1274
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: That's all I got, all the games I got.

1275
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: It should also be noted that Nevada and San Diego

1276
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: State are playing at ten thirty on CBS Sports Network,

1277
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: and that is a huge Mountain West battle that I'm

1278
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: going to take San Diego State in Okay. Nevada's offense

1279
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: has been good, but not as good, but they win games.

1280
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: So I went back and forth. I'm gonna go with

1281
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: the home team and the good defense at home, even

1282
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: though I don't think it worked out against Presno. Also,

1283
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: we still have a number of teams as we are

1284
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: in November that are to Bowl eligibility tie. Should I

1285
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: mention some of those? Please? Okay, here we go. West

1286
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: Virginia is playing against Kansas State. Both of those teams

1287
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Speaker 1: in the mix, despite some weird seasons, ECU and Memphis

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Speaker 1: ECU quietly having a decent year. Western Kentucky is taking

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Speaker 1: on Rice at Rice, it's the Hilltoppers that are close

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Speaker 1: to Bowl eligibility. Charlotte right there, they're taking on Louisiana Tech.

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Speaker 1: FAU right there they have the Monarchs of Old Dominion.

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Speaker 1: UAB Marshall are both teams that I believe are Bowl eligible.

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Speaker 1: But that's just a good Conference USA game. The job

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Speaker 1: Marshall has done this year. I wish they didn't throw

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Speaker 1: as many interceptions, but UAB really interesting as well. Boston

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Speaker 1: College is right there. They're taking on Georgia Tech. I

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Speaker 1: think that's kind of an interesting game. As for the

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Speaker 1: future of hopefully up and coming programs with new ish coaches,

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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech as Virginia Tech desperately tries to get Bowl eligible,

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Speaker 1: which is a weird sentence to say, Iowa State, Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech right there to get Bowl eligible now that

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Speaker 1: they have a new coach, and Joey maguire is their

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Speaker 1: coach as of yesterday, but is not their interim coach,

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Speaker 1: so he's involved in Texas Tech not in Baylor, but

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Speaker 1: he's not there. He's not obviously coaching their team right now.

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Speaker 1: USC can get Bowl eligible with their what's called a

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Speaker 1: weekender at Cal. Maryland can get Bowl eligible. They are

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Speaker 1: at Michigan State, South Carolina and Missoo both striving. Stanford

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Speaker 1: is at Oregon State. The Beavers are right there to

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Speaker 1: try and get Bowl eligible. Texas trying to get Bull eligible.

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Speaker 1: They're hosting Kansas. I suppose they'll get there, UCLA hosting Colorado,

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Speaker 1: it looks like they'll get there. And San Jose State

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Speaker 1: hosting Utah State. Of course, the Aggie's already Bowl eligible,

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Speaker 1: but San Jose State a year after winning the Mountain West,

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Speaker 1: can get Bowl eligible because they are. Those are your

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Speaker 1: teams that are just right there trying to get into

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Speaker 1: the postseason. Tie. Can you drop something big and stanky

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Speaker 1: for me? The Patriot League is.

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Speaker 2: Heating up, Dan.

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Speaker 3: It was always hot, it's even hotter now because twelve pm,

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Speaker 3: CBS Sports Network, we've got the Bucknell byes and yes,

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Speaker 3: at one and eight, they are on the road at

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Speaker 3: five and three, Army, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Who you got?

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Speaker 1: I think Army is gonna win this game by eighty five.

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Speaker 2: I think Army is gonna hammer the Nellies. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think that's inevitable.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Twelve pm ESPN Plus. Georgetown at two and six overall,

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Speaker 2: one and four in conference, traveling North squaring off against

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Speaker 2: the Lehigh mountain Hawks one in eight overall, one and

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Speaker 2: three in conference. Only two wins in the Patriot League

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Speaker 2: between these two teams. You know where I stand. I

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Speaker 2: always go against lee High. Let's go Georgetown.

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Speaker 1: You're going against Lehigh. You were going four lee High

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Speaker 1: before no I told you. Lafayette is hosting Colgate. I

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Speaker 1: believe I'm taking Georgetown, of course, but Lafayette hosting Colgate. Yes,

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Speaker 1: kind of interesting. Lafayette two and two in the pat League,

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Speaker 1: Colgate three and one. I just think, now that I've

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Speaker 1: been to the Lafayette campus, I understand the fish bowl,

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Speaker 1: the scrutiny, the magnifying glass that everybody's under once you

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Speaker 1: get to Easton. I don't think Colgate can handle it.

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Speaker 1: Give me Lafayette, big I got Gators.

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Speaker 2: I got Gators. And finally, one o'clock on ESPN Plus,

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Speaker 2: it is the pat League Game of the Week, perhaps

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Speaker 2: game of the year. Big One. Joe Buck Troy Aikman

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Speaker 2: will be on hand calling this one.

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Speaker 1: Where's where's game day this week? Are they in Oxford?

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Speaker 1: That's what I think I'm seeing right here, I've seen

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen wants Katy Perry to return to Oxford for

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Speaker 1: college game Day Saturday. Here's why I'm not clicking the link.

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Speaker 1: How do you not go to the Bronx if you're

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Speaker 1: game day at this point?

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Speaker 2: Holy Cross seven to two, four to oh in Conference

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Speaker 2: Fordham six and three, four to oh in conference battle

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Speaker 2: royale of Patriot League heavyweights. Dan, Yeah, I have not

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Speaker 2: seen a point spread on this game.

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Speaker 1: Did you actually look it up? Now? I didn't. Fordham

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Speaker 1: holy Cross odds spread. Let's see if anything comes up.

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Speaker 1: Let's see the Action network does, does not have a line,

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a line here? Okay, give me Fordham, give

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Speaker 1: me Rams at home? Why not no line history at

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01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: this time? Ty? I think I agree. I think everybody

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Speaker 1: has been showering Holy Cross, the Cross saders after there

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Speaker 1: would they beat Yukon?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with attention. But meanwhile down in the little old Bronx,

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Speaker 1: the Fordham Rams have been building something. Brick by brick.

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Speaker 1: Give me New York's one true team, big. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why I played that as well. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to yeah, fortum big.

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Speaker 2: That does it for our week eleven previews show Daniel,

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Speaker 2: who is your lock of the week. By the way,

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Speaker 2: who did I generate the most surprising emotion from you

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Speaker 2: about the Ole? Miss ones? Kind of surprised me, Ole,

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01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 2: Miss lock it up? Wow, Ole Miss lock of the

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01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: week for you. Now I'm gonna say Notre Dame for

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: me block of the week. I think a big spot

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 2: for Notre Dame. I think they answer the.

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Speaker 1: Bell game day in town. Energy, Baby, you know it

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Speaker 1: all right? Four to oh eight.

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Speaker 2: Verbal one is the reverblind. Don't forget to give us

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Speaker 2: phone call as you are watching these games. If you

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Speaker 2: are out and about this Saturday, don't forget to listen

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Speaker 2: to our good friend Stephen hartzel Over on the College

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to like it was very difficult. Who are

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Speaker 1: like the most universally beloved, not necessarily the most excellent players,

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Speaker 1: but among college football fans that even if you're not

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Speaker 1: a you know a fan of the team RG three

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Speaker 1: plays for, or the fan of the team that this

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Speaker 1: player plays for.

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Speaker 2: Reggie Bush.

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Speaker 1: Reggie Bush is up there. It's young Rodrigo Blankenship, Rodrigo

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Speaker 1: Blan Did you see that that Roger Sherman found Rodrigo

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Speaker 1: Blankenship's high school blog?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, did you.

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Speaker 1: Ever see that? No, I'm going to send this to you, Roger.

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Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, former Georgia hicker Rodrigo Blankenship, if

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Speaker 1: you remember he has he wears like the Oak League glasses.

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Speaker 1: Sure classes. Rodrigo Blanco Ship kept a blog in high

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Speaker 1: school about his high school soccer season, and all he

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Speaker 1: did was trash his own teammates on his soccer blog

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Speaker 1: about his high school soccer career and saying, none of

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Speaker 1: these yahoos know what they're doing. It's such a waste

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Speaker 1: of my time and it's still up. Okay, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Now we can put a great teammate, good kicker though,

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Speaker 2: all right, for that guy over there, my good friend

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