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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Enzas, and I am joined in
Speaker 1: a hotel room filled with heroes Mark Seler, Chris Westling
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosa Thalt. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Oh? Right?
Speaker 1: Was not a lot of pop scratch. I might still
Speaker 1: be jet lagged. Not a lot of zip on the
Speaker 1: fastball there waiting Kershaw slider. A lot of people say
Speaker 1: day two trickier, you know with the jet light. You're
Speaker 1: just tired that first night. Now it's when the real
Speaker 1: champions rise. I'm pitching from the stretch. I gotta go
Speaker 1: full wind up next time. We're here in Ricky Hollywood's
Speaker 1: hotel room, which is roughly twice the size of mine.
Speaker 1: But that seems like something Erica would have plotted out
Speaker 1: ahead of time. Good for her. Uh. And we are
Speaker 1: getting ready for week six here in London. So excited
Speaker 1: uh to have so many things coming up ahead for us,
Speaker 1: including our Friday night live show. Uh. And then Sunday
Speaker 1: will be at Tottenham Spurs Stadium, Hot Spurs, but that
Speaker 1: you could say Spurs Stadium. You are Dan is all
Speaker 1: over this city. Phrasing the terminology. You could say Tottenham
Speaker 1: Hotspurs Stadium or Spurs Stadium, but don't call Tottenham Stadium,
Speaker 1: and don't call it hot Spurs Stadium, and certainly do
Speaker 1: not call it Wembley Stadium. I blew it in a
Speaker 1: big spot on inside the huddle the Sky Sports show
Speaker 1: we did with our friend Neil Reynolds, and sounded like
Speaker 1: a dumb American. You said Tottenham Staium. You know there
Speaker 1: is another option. I've checked this out to Toddy House.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that that use multiple time. Do not
Speaker 1: use white heart lane. I've been warned not to use that.
Speaker 1: But Toddy House totally clear and I'm using That's how
Speaker 1: I phrase it from here until the end. So we're
Speaker 1: here in London and we're going to be doing what
Speaker 1: we always do on Thursday, which is go over each
Speaker 1: of the games to be played on Sunday, Sunday, Sunday afternoon,
Speaker 1: Sunday night, and then Monday night. Our good buddies Jeremy Bergmann,
Speaker 1: who you might have uh seen in the two thousand
Speaker 1: five film Kicking and Screaming. So the World. Ferrell, by
Speaker 1: the way, the lesser Kicking and screaming the one that
Speaker 1: is less witty, less scripted out. Jeremy is one of
Speaker 1: the child actors in that film, and he is also
Speaker 1: a Jets fan and a writer an editor for NFL Media,
Speaker 1: so he's helping us out along with our good friend
Speaker 1: Eddie Spaghetti who's a Giants fan. They're handling the Patriots
Speaker 1: Giants Thursday night game tonight in our mini pods, so
Speaker 1: thank you to them for that. I'm sure it'll be
Speaker 1: really like professional on balance with the Jets fan and
Speaker 1: a Giants fan talking about the Patriots. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you Patriots fans survive with all these hardships. Um,
Speaker 1: but we will now cover all of the games and
Speaker 1: as we do, uh, it is draft style. And this
Speaker 1: is also the first week where we have, you know,
Speaker 1: a legitimate bi sitch wation because there's four teams done
Speaker 1: by Buffalo, Oakland, Indian Chicago, which means less games to
Speaker 1: talk about, which means keep this thing on a ninety
Speaker 1: minutes potentially it's in everything's in playing. I don't know,
Speaker 1: we still have a lot of stories to unpact, you know,
Speaker 1: from what was that bar last night? Sky took us
Speaker 1: out afterwards the Lord Nelson, nice pub that could take
Speaker 1: a solid half hour. Was John it up with some
Speaker 1: sky management. I had noticed him scoring points left and right,
Speaker 1: just a normal conversation in the bar, classic Westling hob nobbing,
Speaker 1: working his way up the ladder. I have an update,
Speaker 1: by the way, in the ghost situation, so I haven't
Speaker 1: heard a ton more. But there was a little bit
Speaker 1: in my hotel room, which again is a roughly a
Speaker 1: quarter of the size of Erica's room. And I was
Speaker 1: walking past our hotel um last night and I noticed
Speaker 1: a plaque that commemorated a hotel that existed on the
Speaker 1: very sight, excuse me, a hospital. They existed on the
Speaker 1: very side of this hotel that existed from And this
Speaker 1: is when it reminds you how much older this area,
Speaker 1: this country is than the United States. There was a
Speaker 1: hospital here from twelve forty seven to sixteen seventy six.
Speaker 1: Now I want you to think about what a hospital
Speaker 1: was like in the year twelve seventy six. The the
Speaker 1: the ooze that was coming out of people as they
Speaker 1: slowly died, as their brains were cracked open to cure
Speaker 1: the common cold, as people just withered away, and all
Speaker 1: those ghosts they don't They don't, you know, just fly
Speaker 1: off into the heavens. Some stay right here because they
Speaker 1: have unfinished business and the right here in our hotel.
Speaker 1: That is my new theory. You've cracked the case, because
Speaker 1: you know, any any sort of breeding ground for disease death,
Speaker 1: probably some very angry people that were sent. You know,
Speaker 1: they sometimes treated those old hospitals as mental institutions on
Speaker 1: the fly, so a lot of disturbed individuals, and they
Speaker 1: wanted them misattempting to communicate with youth your pipes at
Speaker 1: this point of female, how long is the average lifespan
Speaker 1: of a ghost? Infinite? Well, really, if they if they
Speaker 1: were there in twelve eighty seven and they can see
Speaker 1: the modern medicine that's going on now, they're pissed back then,
Speaker 1: back then, I don't know. If he's just Craigs thing
Speaker 1: where he always kills old times, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember back then, if a hospital was just a
Speaker 1: place people would go there so that they could just
Speaker 1: hit you with a hammer, that was it. You just
Speaker 1: go there and they just hit you with a hammer
Speaker 1: over and you're like, thank you very much, and then
Speaker 1: you leave. Well that is not factual, by the way,
Speaker 1: not infinite. If your job, this may be the ghost
Speaker 1: picking you out because if you ease the ghosts pain Patrick,
Speaker 1: well right, the reason it's still lingering and trying to
Speaker 1: communicate with you. You You can't be blase and just go
Speaker 1: to your podcast and go to the pub. You have
Speaker 1: some you have another life mission to handle. Hire. It's
Speaker 1: not just a bit. You have to do some kiss
Speaker 1: the ghost. Now you gotta buy some clay. You gotta
Speaker 1: buy some clay, one of those popmakers, and then music
Speaker 1: and it's all good. Alright. So yes, this is an
Speaker 1: old hospital where you had to get the ooze out
Speaker 1: and then die. Uh. Now it's a hotel. Let's get
Speaker 1: to the games. I have the first overall pick this week.
Speaker 1: Funny how that worked out. Um, which means snake style, Eric,
Speaker 1: I know you have a drop ready for snake this week.
Speaker 1: She doesn't have a microphone right now, so she's in
Speaker 1: a tough spot if she didn't do her homework and
Speaker 1: get the snake drop. She's also forty ft away from
Speaker 1: us in this hotel room, which is the size of
Speaker 1: a small factory. Uh, all right, I am going to
Speaker 1: make my first pick and uh oh yeah, yep, I
Speaker 1: got it. You gotta share it with the room, the fanfare.
Speaker 1: I gotta wait, I gotta picture. I gotta figure out
Speaker 1: the time situation. Here we are recording all right, here
Speaker 1: is the first pick of the draft. Is a late game.
Speaker 1: It will be played in the city where we usually reside,
Speaker 1: but we're not there right now. The San Francisco forty Niners,
Speaker 1: undefeated four no heading to the Coliseum to play the Rams,
Speaker 1: who had half a bye week after their tough Thursday
Speaker 1: night loss at the Clink on the Greg's airline missed
Speaker 1: field goal, and um, I just think this is a
Speaker 1: great game because the Rams, despite now having lost two
Speaker 1: in a row, I thought they played pretty well in Seattle,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that was a loss to to
Speaker 1: hang your head about and panic over. I still think
Speaker 1: there are concerns with this team. Um on offense, they
Speaker 1: are um ranked fifth overall on offense, but the right
Speaker 1: rushing and Todd Gurley. They made a conscious effort to
Speaker 1: get him involved against the Seahawks early, but then at
Speaker 1: the end of the game you again, you look at
Speaker 1: the numbers, and he scored two touchdown again, but he
Speaker 1: just doesn't look like Todd Gurley anymore. And I still
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a rounding into shape thing. He
Speaker 1: also has a thigh injury which has held him out
Speaker 1: of practice this week. I don't know if that's gonna
Speaker 1: be something that potentially keeps him limited or out of
Speaker 1: this game. But I think this is a great game.
Speaker 1: I think it's a close game. The Desert thinks it's
Speaker 1: a close game. What do you guys think? I think
Speaker 1: this is a concerning matchup for the Rams in the
Speaker 1: sense that if you dig into PFF, they are below
Speaker 1: the Bengals and below every other team in the league
Speaker 1: in terms of their past blocking. They've had offensive line
Speaker 1: issues this year. Jared Goff under pressure is not the
Speaker 1: same guy. And the Niners defense, and it's not just
Speaker 1: the Browns game is a legitimate operation, star studded front
Speaker 1: four and they are dominating people. Bosa. Nick Bosa was
Speaker 1: absolutely on fire last week against the Browns and holds
Speaker 1: the highest pressure rate in the NFL right now. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't love the matchup for the Rams, but
Speaker 1: there are a kind of team that hangs around in
Speaker 1: these games. At the same time, it's the ultimate test
Speaker 1: there too. Biggest weaknesses are run defense and you're going
Speaker 1: up against I think the toughest run game to prepare
Speaker 1: for in the entire league. Especially with Tevin Coleman back,
Speaker 1: he did add a little juice to that offense. But
Speaker 1: they're they're good with whoever they have, And then they
Speaker 1: have the forty Niners have the best pass rush in
Speaker 1: the league, or one of them right now, and you're
Speaker 1: going up against the rams biggest weaknesses, which is past protection.
Speaker 1: The forty Niners are pretty banged up too, though. There
Speaker 1: you are without Kyle Uschek for a month. That's a
Speaker 1: pretty big loss. There without Mike McGlinchey, who's their best
Speaker 1: offensive lineman at right tackle, probably their best run blocker
Speaker 1: for this week and possibly much longer. They're without left
Speaker 1: tackle Joe Staley. So they've actually done a really good
Speaker 1: job all season battling through injuries. But these are a
Speaker 1: couple of other big time losses for them, and I
Speaker 1: just it's one of those things that I can't imagine
Speaker 1: looking at the standings and seeing the Rams three games
Speaker 1: behind and almost done in the division in the middle
Speaker 1: of October. And so that's why I think the Rams
Speaker 1: just somehow like kind of use all their big game
Speaker 1: experience from the last couple of years and find a
Speaker 1: way to win this. Well, they're talking like they're preparing
Speaker 1: as if Girly won't play. Brandon Cooks still in concussion protocol,
Speaker 1: two of their biggest weapons against Do we think there's
Speaker 1: any drop off to Malcolm Brown right now? I don't,
Speaker 1: But they don't seem to trust Darrell Henderson as their
Speaker 1: number two. So I don't know what Girly to me like,
Speaker 1: I admire the way he's running. He's still running people over,
Speaker 1: just not running around them anymore. He's just not elusive
Speaker 1: or explosive anymore. Niners. You mentioned they have injury issues.
Speaker 1: They've only they had a bye week, the Monday night
Speaker 1: game and now Sunday's game. So this is their second
Speaker 1: game in about twenty one days. Uh so they should
Speaker 1: be a feeling good, pretty fresh. The and the Rams,
Speaker 1: like I said, they played last Thursday night. They get
Speaker 1: the break. Brandon Cooks, that's something to watch. We were
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl and he was with the Patriots
Speaker 1: when he suffered that nasty concussion. He's had several now
Speaker 1: and he's starting to get into that uh area, which
Speaker 1: you never like to see a player at. It's where
Speaker 1: Jordan read is in Washington now where Austin Collier, Austin
Speaker 1: Collie where you get to a situation where there might
Speaker 1: be one more to come and then you can't play anymore.
Speaker 1: So that's a scary situation. But uh yeah, the Niners
Speaker 1: uh defensively are near the top of the league and
Speaker 1: almost every relevant category. It's been an incredible star by
Speaker 1: this team. So I think it's if this game was
Speaker 1: in San Francisco would be very nervous for the Rams,
Speaker 1: But the fact that it's in l A, the fact
Speaker 1: that they're coming up back to back losses, I like
Speaker 1: their chances. This is this is the rivalry we hyped
Speaker 1: up two years ago. Kyle Shanahan his former assistant Sean McVeigh,
Speaker 1: two of the most fun offensive minds. But it's kind
Speaker 1: of taken this long for it now to be a
Speaker 1: meaningful matchup. I will say the forty Niners and some
Speaker 1: of these games haven't mattered much, but have had a
Speaker 1: pretty good track record under Kyle Shanahan moving the ball
Speaker 1: against this Rams defense even when they were not as
Speaker 1: good as they are right now. And Troy Aikman made
Speaker 1: a really good point I think in the Thursday night
Speaker 1: game just how chill Jared got fizz with pressure all
Speaker 1: around him. On some hand, it's it's a good quality.
Speaker 1: On the other, he just brought up how he's like
Speaker 1: two lacks. He's like to just letting it all happen
Speaker 1: around him when he and he gets crunched and he
Speaker 1: loses the prototypical California Boys quarterback. But and he's so cool.
Speaker 1: They're back in the pocket. But this is not the
Speaker 1: team you want to be cool with when the Forest
Speaker 1: Buckner and Nick Bosa are foot away from you. All right,
Speaker 1: So I hit a grand slam there. That was Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck to the Colts, number one overall, two thousand twelve.
Speaker 1: Now the number two pick is where Greg goes r
Speaker 1: G three. It seems like a great pick at first,
Speaker 1: and then as we go on, it reveals itself to
Speaker 1: be a huge, busy layered narrative here that you've been
Speaker 1: thinking about in your mind probably for the last six hours.
Speaker 1: Is offensive. This is an easy pick for me because
Speaker 1: I think the best I think it's weird. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what that means. Every week it's this. This
Speaker 1: is exactly like talking with a friend of yours, like
Speaker 1: in high school, when like the Giants take so and
Speaker 1: so it picked three, and your friend on the phone
Speaker 1: is telling you we just nailed that draft. It's like
Speaker 1: we're at we're a joke. Look, I'm willing. I'm willing.
Speaker 1: But why am I drafting last on the snake to
Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. I thought you drafted first,
Speaker 1: less you did. Yeah, I'm gonna take Uh. I was
Speaker 1: thinking of taking the Browns if if ever, I was
Speaker 1: going to take the Browns to be this week because
Speaker 1: Sunday we're just gonna We're gonna be. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: on TV the whole time on Sky Sports, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna be watching a lot. But no, I'm still not going.
Speaker 1: Still it is. I think Eagles Vikings is the next
Speaker 1: biggest game of the week to Rams forty Niners. I
Speaker 1: agree with Dan that that's the biggest one, but I
Speaker 1: think Eagles Vikings is a little more desperate. And these
Speaker 1: are two would be NFC Super Bowl contenders that I
Speaker 1: think are both fully aware now five weeks into the
Speaker 1: season that this year is going to be complicated. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's no this is not gonna be a thirteen and
Speaker 1: three Eagles season where they roll to a bye. The
Speaker 1: Vikings have an even tougher route through the NFC North,
Speaker 1: But I think they're both good enough to be a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl type of team. So the fact they have
Speaker 1: to play each other this week in Minnesota, UH makes
Speaker 1: it a really fascinating game. And the first thing I'll
Speaker 1: be watching is just will will the Vikings go after
Speaker 1: Philadelphia the way that you have to, which is throwing
Speaker 1: the ball all over them. Forget running against them. They're
Speaker 1: an amazing run defense. They're so good upfront. I know
Speaker 1: you have Dalvin Cook and you're gonna keep monest with that,
Speaker 1: but if you want to beat him, you let Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins throw the ball thirty five to forty times. And
Speaker 1: if you can't win that way, then you can't win.
Speaker 1: And enough different types of ways and you're not going
Speaker 1: to be in the super Bowl. Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: already in my own head with locks. Now you just
Speaker 1: got in my head. I can't lock up the Vikings
Speaker 1: said no on Kirk Cousins. I might be totally wrong,
Speaker 1: been wrong many times, and locks. We're getting into history territory.
Speaker 1: We had talked about over lunch yesterday, the idea of
Speaker 1: staying in solidarity and locking up together, and West was
Speaker 1: excited about out the Vikings, and I just I can't
Speaker 1: trust Carson Wentz to go there and not get it done.
Speaker 1: And and I don't trust Kirk Cousins because I love
Speaker 1: your Kirk Cousins test, like, when do the Vikings. When
Speaker 1: does Kirk Cousins win? It's at home against the crappy
Speaker 1: team in the game, no one's paying attention to. This
Speaker 1: does not check all the boxes. I had a revelation
Speaker 1: somewhere in around week two where I just said, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna ever pick against the Vikings at home. I
Speaker 1: just think they're a different team at home. Their defense
Speaker 1: is so much better, They're running games so much stronger.
Speaker 1: But Greg's right, if you're the Vikings, you look at
Speaker 1: the Eagles defense and say, I don't even want to
Speaker 1: try to run the ball, And then I'm also biased.
Speaker 1: I like the Eagles. This is how I wanted to
Speaker 1: play out, and so I'm start of presenting it in
Speaker 1: my way, which is is no way. Uh correct you?
Speaker 1: You you are really in your own head right now.
Speaker 1: West told me because he said he said, this time,
Speaker 1: I know what I want. This is my lock. I
Speaker 1: feel so strong. You gotta go with your first instinct.
Speaker 1: He kept saying that the Vikings I started doing five one,
Speaker 1: and someone in this from started going six by the
Speaker 1: way once too, and so you want you're threatening to
Speaker 1: do that. I wouldn't touch this game with a four
Speaker 1: thousand foot poll. I would not even touch it from
Speaker 1: a lockstairs. The world hold on. The Eagles are the
Speaker 1: team I've been waiting for to hit a steady streak
Speaker 1: and show us who they are. They have knocked out
Speaker 1: the Redskins and Jets. They lost to a bad Falcons team.
Speaker 1: They got nipped by the Lions. I know they were
Speaker 1: banged up in that game, and they took out the
Speaker 1: Packers on the road. I cannot figure out week to
Speaker 1: week who they are. Carson Wentz has had more drops
Speaker 1: than any quarterback in the league right now. To Sean
Speaker 1: Jackson still not in this game. It sounds like he's
Speaker 1: not gonna be playing again. Miles Sanders comes out of
Speaker 1: last week. I like him some weeks. He has one
Speaker 1: point seven yards per carry. They're trying to they the
Speaker 1: coach talked a week about getting Jordan Howard more involved.
Speaker 1: I don't know. This feels like a total coin flip
Speaker 1: game to me. Total coin flip. I'm not locking it.
Speaker 1: I don't think you should. If if they in the Vikings,
Speaker 1: I mean that feels a little extreme great. I mean
Speaker 1: I meant more mentally physically, you know, any other thoughts
Speaker 1: about this game before we move on? Nice matchup though, Uh,
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cockoo is the second leaning rusher in the league.
Speaker 1: The Eagles, no one's been better than them against the
Speaker 1: run this year. Be goes. They're a little healthier. I
Speaker 1: think is worth noting. You know, got it's back. Jeffrey
Speaker 1: actually looked like Jeffrey a little bit last week. They
Speaker 1: think Sidney Jones will be back. They have Grugier Hail,
Speaker 1: which is not a huge player, but they they have
Speaker 1: mostly gotten healthy. At some point they'll get Timmy Journ
Speaker 1: again and Deshan Jackson back. All right, let us move
Speaker 1: on now to the third overall pick. It his Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: What's he got? Well, I am gonna go Seattle Cleveland
Speaker 1: because uh, I think it's going to be gone by
Speaker 1: the next time. I'd come around. It's a good game
Speaker 1: for everyone who's so down in the Browns, and that
Speaker 1: would include me to some degree. I would think about
Speaker 1: the fact that the last time these two teams met
Speaker 1: it was Russell Wilson, not versed in em battled Baker Mayfield, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, that whole handshake thing with the Russia
Speaker 1: with Richard Sherman that I brought up in the last show,
Speaker 1: I wish I could just erase that entire comment that
Speaker 1: I made, because the whole thing turned into a ridiculous
Speaker 1: soap opera. And it was he has and it's it
Speaker 1: wasn't on Baker Mayfield and the And you can tell
Speaker 1: now that the people would put the Browns on their radar.
Speaker 1: I think these teams, and you understand why the same
Speaker 1: way that teams put a Super Bowl winner or or
Speaker 1: some sort of hot shot playoff riser, because they wanted
Speaker 1: they wanted kill what was an annoying offseason narrative. I
Speaker 1: think for thirty one other organizations in the league. The
Speaker 1: last time the Browns played Seattle, this is how different
Speaker 1: things are now and why you should not you should
Speaker 1: have patients with the Browns as an organization in general.
Speaker 1: It was Johnny Manziel versus Russell Wilson. How dark were
Speaker 1: those times? This Browns team is incomplete, They are a
Speaker 1: work in progress. This is a tough matchup but I
Speaker 1: have this weird feeling that the Cleveland Browns are gonna
Speaker 1: show up this week, and it's because Seattle is not.
Speaker 1: Cleveland is going to lose. If they're gonna go eight
Speaker 1: and eight or nine and seven, they're gonna get knocked
Speaker 1: out by teams that can rush the passer, and that
Speaker 1: that I'm talking to like a team like the Niners,
Speaker 1: some of these clubs that come in and they're gonna
Speaker 1: make life very difficult on Baker Mayfield. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's Seattle's strength on any level right now in terms
Speaker 1: of coming at you. And if Baker Mayfield can be
Speaker 1: kept safe and they can get the run game going,
Speaker 1: you can get something closer to what happened in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a week to week proposition and they
Speaker 1: have a lot of issues, and Seattle, to me, is
Speaker 1: a team that can travel on the road or go anywhere.
Speaker 1: I love this team in general, but I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a freaky little Browns tight. It's gonna be tight.
Speaker 1: I don't see any other locking it up. I'm not
Speaker 1: locking it up because it's a it's a strange, very
Speaker 1: bizarre game, but I don't think Cleveland's just gonna shut
Speaker 1: it down for the year and give you ten more
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners performance. And you look at their
Speaker 1: schedule there two and three, which is not the end
Speaker 1: of the world, certainly not in their division. But if
Speaker 1: they can't find way to beat the Seahawks at home,
Speaker 1: they go into their by and then they go to
Speaker 1: Foxborough and if they if the Patriots handed to them,
Speaker 1: look out there in trouble. I'd say one thing though,
Speaker 1: also again it's a long season. Look at the slate
Speaker 1: after that, it is light, and it's just that everyone
Speaker 1: wants this team to go seven and oh and and
Speaker 1: take the A f C without any questions. That's not
Speaker 1: how this works. Well, they're the problem is their offense
Speaker 1: has been terrible. I mean, they've hit a couple of
Speaker 1: big plays, so it's more the underlying factors that they
Speaker 1: don't It's not like they've had bad luck to be
Speaker 1: two and three. They look like a two and three
Speaker 1: team that could be one and four. They have the
Speaker 1: twenty nine offense and d v o A right now.
Speaker 1: The Bears, the Bills, the Bengals are among the teams
Speaker 1: that have better offenses right now. And what The Seahawks
Speaker 1: do well on defense. They're not a great defense, but
Speaker 1: they just kind of make you go down the field.
Speaker 1: They play pretty safe. You're right, it's not a great pastors.
Speaker 1: What they do is they make you do nine play
Speaker 1: drives and if you're a good offense like the Rams,
Speaker 1: you end up putting up thirty. You could add more
Speaker 1: on them. But every are the Browns able to do that?
Speaker 1: That's what they haven't shown. They've hit some big plays,
Speaker 1: but they haven't shown that they can just kind of
Speaker 1: stay in rhythm and on schedule and score. I'm with you,
Speaker 1: I think it will come. This seems like a gun game.
Speaker 1: That is a crazy game that comes down to the
Speaker 1: last I think. To Dan's point, it is Cleveland. It's
Speaker 1: a big game for them. If they could come out
Speaker 1: and lay an egg, they're they're broken to Sunday and Greg,
Speaker 1: I know you hate this, so maybe that's part of
Speaker 1: the I'm bringing it up way too early m v
Speaker 1: P talk. Russell Wilson's performance on Thursday, combined with Patrick
Speaker 1: mahomes stumble at home on Sunday Night Football in primetime,
Speaker 1: Wilson in the lead, that so fine, it's more like okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's do a quote tweet tweet and put it
Speaker 1: on Instagram and it's like, no questions asked, Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: is the m v P right now, It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: how about eleven more games? Like two thirds of the
Speaker 1: yea And it's like that's like when someone as home run,
Speaker 1: it's it's the first week of May and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like, uh, just not is that guy
Speaker 1: said that was? What was the fat panda guy in baseball?
Speaker 1: Pedro Pablo Sandoval's got thirteen home runs and it's mate, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, Pedro, he's the f VP.
Speaker 1: Thank Joe. Alright, West, you're up. Um. One thing about
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield to me, when he came in last year
Speaker 1: for Tyrod Taylor, the best thing about him was he
Speaker 1: turned an offensive line that couldn't protect Tyrod Taylor into
Speaker 1: an offensive line that protected Baker Mayfield as well as
Speaker 1: any quarterback. And now it's the backslide. He's not dealing
Speaker 1: well with the pressure. And you look at a guy
Speaker 1: like Matt Ryan, that's a franchise quarterback even with the
Speaker 1: rest of the offense falling apart around him. You get
Speaker 1: the same thing every week. You don't get the same
Speaker 1: thing out of Baker Mayfield. I don't think we can
Speaker 1: call him a franchise quarterback yet. I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: But I I just some simply unwilling to panic about
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield at this point. I agree with there's a
Speaker 1: lot happening around on him, and you know it's I
Speaker 1: pointed this out. I think with Chard Higgins was a
Speaker 1: security blanket for him last year. And maybe it's a
Speaker 1: case where you roll in and you catch a little
Speaker 1: momentum and you don't know what you don't know when
Speaker 1: you're a rookie sometimes, and he's struggling, I think mentally
Speaker 1: in pre snap and trying to figure out what defenses
Speaker 1: are doing. That's yeah, that's a terrible job by Richard Sherman.
Speaker 1: Terrible job. I don't even understand what how you think
Speaker 1: you're going to get away. It sounded like he basically
Speaker 1: made himself believe that that actually happened to fire him up,
Speaker 1: because I think players get into a really crazy space
Speaker 1: when they play football. That's essentially what he said. That's
Speaker 1: to the point where he sort of believed his own story.
Speaker 1: And then especially like right when the game's ending, like
Speaker 1: he's still so fired up, he's like on another That's
Speaker 1: the generous way to look at it. The other way
Speaker 1: to look at is that it was a good way
Speaker 1: to get him in the middle of the news cycle
Speaker 1: after that game, and then you wonder, is it a
Speaker 1: la ravil magnifico? Has he been doing this his whole
Speaker 1: career and only now as he caught are their lies
Speaker 1: that can be uncovered elsewhere throughout his long run in
Speaker 1: the league? Greg remember bringing the Heat, the book about
Speaker 1: the likes one of the best football bucks ever Mark Bowden?
Speaker 1: Was it? Andre Wall? Andre Waters? I think the Eagle
Speaker 1: safety had an alter ego where he thought he was
Speaker 1: a superhero every time he stepped on a football field,
Speaker 1: and he convinced himself in his mind he was a
Speaker 1: totally different person when he was on the field and
Speaker 1: he was when he was off the field. I could
Speaker 1: see like Richard Sherman doing that. Like Dan said, that's
Speaker 1: a generous way to look at it. But alright, I
Speaker 1: can't believe this game is still out there. I am
Speaker 1: taking the Houston Texans at the Kansas City Chief pick.
Speaker 1: Good pick, solid pick this week? How do you get
Speaker 1: more entertaining quarter quarterback play than this matchup. I am.
Speaker 1: I am going back and saying I was wrong all
Speaker 1: off season about the Texans, and dam was right. They
Speaker 1: are fun to watch and I just should have trusted
Speaker 1: their quarterback more. I think style wise, Deshaun Watson is
Speaker 1: the closest thing we have to Russell Wilson. I just
Speaker 1: love the way he stays aggressive all the time. And
Speaker 1: he gets him into trouble with Sax because he holds
Speaker 1: the ball waiting for the big play. But at least
Speaker 1: he's going for the big play. And I was so
Speaker 1: impressed last week they get a big lead against the
Speaker 1: Falcons and a lot of this is on the play caller,
Speaker 1: but but it's on the quarterback to staying aggressive. You
Speaker 1: know a lot of guys just checked down with a
Speaker 1: big lead, two touchdown lead to score lead, and Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson is still going down the field making big plays.
Speaker 1: I love the way he plays, you know, it's great.
Speaker 1: Dabo Sweeney, his coach at Clemson. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: quotes since I've been in the NFL is when he said,
Speaker 1: you know, passing on this guy's like passing on Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan's and what you're saying, is that's Michael Jordan's hope behavior.
Speaker 1: Ripped the heart out of the opponent. You know, don't
Speaker 1: mess around, you know, Paul Paul with him, it's like
Speaker 1: in Swingers with your big bear clause. You know, I
Speaker 1: wanna know, you gotta you gotta go for it. You
Speaker 1: gotta take him out and be ruthless about it. And
Speaker 1: when he gets hot, he can just devastate a defense,
Speaker 1: says uh As. Dan Quinn understands that. I mean, he
Speaker 1: also has you go you go back and look at
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and what happened in the Jaguars game and
Speaker 1: what happened against the Panthers, And it's been an up
Speaker 1: and down passing offense, no doubt. And I flipped. I
Speaker 1: flipped around to Kansas City, and I think sometimes the
Speaker 1: Sunday night games can get a little lost in my
Speaker 1: mind because we're all watching them again. At the end
Speaker 1: of the game, there we go and but then the
Speaker 1: Chiefs and I know they're banged up along the line.
Speaker 1: We're just dominated on both sides of the ball by Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: And it was just it was impressive to watch the
Speaker 1: way that the Cults handled that and the matchup this
Speaker 1: week because it's sort of the last guy you can
Speaker 1: really count on that line right now. Mitchell Schwartz probably
Speaker 1: gonna deal with J. J. Watt this whole game. I
Speaker 1: know J. J. Watt isn't maybe the same guy from
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. They said it was from
Speaker 1: a QB pressures standpoint, one of the greatest games of
Speaker 1: his career last week. I just I think if you
Speaker 1: you see what happens to to to any quarter back.
Speaker 1: It even Patrick Mahomes when he's under darress the way
Speaker 1: he was last week and and and then hobbling during
Speaker 1: the second half, well, he he needs to have his
Speaker 1: mobility to be Patrick Mahomes. West said it well, that
Speaker 1: he's so good that maybe when he doesn't have his mobility,
Speaker 1: he's only like a top ten quarterback, that's the six
Speaker 1: or seventh best quarterback. But that's pretty big difference between
Speaker 1: to me being the most consistent best quarterback in the
Speaker 1: league to being mortal. This is a matchup where it's
Speaker 1: kind of a circle the wagons game for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to manage your season, and this is
Speaker 1: a tough spot for their season right now. Sammy Watkins
Speaker 1: didn't practice wins that he might be out. Eric Fisher
Speaker 1: is still out, and then most importantly, I think Chris
Speaker 1: Jones could be one of the biggest injuries we've seen
Speaker 1: in the NFL this season. I think he's as valuable
Speaker 1: to his team as I would put him in the
Speaker 1: top five defensive players in the league in terms of
Speaker 1: if you take Chris Jones away, what do you have
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs? Because he's that good and he's not
Speaker 1: gonna play this game. Tyreek Hill might return. There's so
Speaker 1: many things going against the Chiefs, which is one of
Speaker 1: the reasons you're gonna lock it out to lock them up.
Speaker 1: Because I'm going to lock up the Chiefs at home
Speaker 1: because when you have an opportunity to do that, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna trust in Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes to
Speaker 1: somehow figure it out, even though I don't really feel
Speaker 1: that good about it, because there's so many indicators kind
Speaker 1: of pointing in Houston's way. Well, here's some news for you, uh,
Speaker 1: as you can see, I have the same thing. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be locking this up, baby, because Greg and I
Speaker 1: we've been notched top these standings at three and two.
Speaker 1: It is I don't think this is look in the
Speaker 1: mirror with no problem. Did the Texans get deeper by
Speaker 1: the week that if they really do put it all
Speaker 1: together in terms of plane consistently, than they are a
Speaker 1: f C contender. They have about four or five weapons
Speaker 1: right now on offense. But I just, yeah, I would
Speaker 1: take in the Chiefs because it's Andy Reid and Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes at home. I think it's Byron Pringle at home.
Speaker 1: And when I have that situation that I just roll
Speaker 1: with it. Greg's um. Gregg doesn't use the mirror test.
Speaker 1: He says there's no reflection. He uses the desert test.
Speaker 1: And this is an interesting week because there's only one
Speaker 1: game that doesn't pass the desert test too if you
Speaker 1: count Jets, Cows, Cowboys. Most of the games are very close.
Speaker 1: Even this game I tested under seven would be the
Speaker 1: test of six and a half or under. So um,
Speaker 1: and we don't, you know, that's not what we do here,
Speaker 1: you know we we we we wager saying, well, it's
Speaker 1: less about the mirror and more about your guys mirrors.
Speaker 1: I would have absolutely taken the Bears last week. Your
Speaker 1: your mirrors, I knew would not have allowed it, and
Speaker 1: so you saved me one last. Well, this has become
Speaker 1: a ted extremporaneous let's just um J. J. Watt, according
Speaker 1: to PF, earned the highest pass rush win rate thirty
Speaker 1: nine point two percent of his entire career on Sunday
Speaker 1: and his highest pass rush grade since two thousand fifteen.
Speaker 1: So he is playing very well. It was such a
Speaker 1: large sample size of pressures that he had too roughing
Speaker 1: the passers in there, because eventually you're just gonna hit
Speaker 1: a quarterback too many times for sure. All right, West,
Speaker 1: it's snakes over to you, Ricky hit it. I'm going
Speaker 1: Saints Jaguars for my second pick. Erica's amazing drop right there,
Speaker 1: so good, incredible. Again, that pick is available for trade. Okay,
Speaker 1: we can negotiate, like if you're not, you know, tied
Speaker 1: up talking to Sky Sports management figures tonight again for
Speaker 1: two hours plus. It's okay. I'm busy here. I'm climbing
Speaker 1: the ladder. Wait, I was just talking to a guy
Speaker 1: in a bar like I've been doing my whole life.
Speaker 1: I'm not much for dark networking, don't you see? I
Speaker 1: feel about darts today, Mark feels about all parlor games.
Speaker 1: I mean, you should be happy about darts because your wife,
Speaker 1: Lakisha Wesley, pulled off the greatest upsets in Super Bowl three,
Speaker 1: hitting the bull's eye to win it at the edge.
Speaker 1: She's known to hit a bulls eye or two. If
Speaker 1: you had to watch before that, you wouldn't would have
Speaker 1: been surprised. Wow, you just be smirched. My wife's starts
Speaker 1: skills a lot going on unless ten seconds or so.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, West, Uh Saints Jaguars. I really I said
Speaker 1: this after Sunday night that Sean Payton would be my
Speaker 1: early vote for Coach of the Year, and then after
Speaker 1: watching the way he's built Teddy Bridgewater's confidence, and it
Speaker 1: feels like in a dream world, this is how every
Speaker 1: coach would build a quarterback's confidence. You surround them with
Speaker 1: good special teams, good defense, great offensive line, Kamara and
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, and you let him eventually, after three or
Speaker 1: four weeks, build up his confidence to the point where
Speaker 1: he's taking chances downfield and it's starting to look like
Speaker 1: the old Teddy Bridgewater. Again. Tough matchup in theory for Bridgewater,
Speaker 1: but in reality it's not. The Jags defense needs to
Speaker 1: be way better. They've kind of fallen apart this year,
Speaker 1: and quietly they're a below average defense. Right now, Well,
Speaker 1: their best player hasn't wanted to play the list and
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey might be back uh this week. Sounds like
Speaker 1: he's practiced. This is great, by the way. So the
Speaker 1: team finally says, we've had enough of this. B S.
Speaker 1: You have a back injury. Go see a back doctor.
Speaker 1: So this is from rap sheet. On the team's request,
Speaker 1: he hops on a plane and visits a back specialist
Speaker 1: and guess what, as soon as he gets back to town,
Speaker 1: he's on the practice field. Because what do you think
Speaker 1: the back doctor said, you fine, boy, get back on
Speaker 1: the field. So now he has to play until he
Speaker 1: comes up with another excuse. Now, that to me is
Speaker 1: the funnest uh subplot subplot of this week. What is
Speaker 1: the next Jalen Ramsey excuse not to play football? Well?
Speaker 1: I think what if he plays this week? He matches
Speaker 1: up against Michael Thomas, and that's an incredible That means
Speaker 1: he doesn't he won't be able to think of an excuse.
Speaker 1: And something is that even the best I don't Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the best matchup, but Lattimore on DJ Chark is
Speaker 1: pretty good. To Lattimore, the last two weeks has has
Speaker 1: been incredible. But just to go further on the Jackson
Speaker 1: d aren't split. Yeah, Jack's offense right now is seventh
Speaker 1: in d v O. A defense is twenty six. That's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to believe. Godner Minshew, by the way,
Speaker 1: has not really played at home except for that one
Speaker 1: Thursday night game. He hasn't been able to field like
Speaker 1: the Minsho many has been on the road and he's
Speaker 1: done a nice job. But I feel like that crowd
Speaker 1: and Minshew to get the formidable. They also they had
Speaker 1: nine sacks that last time they were at home again
Speaker 1: against Tennessee and locking up the Jaguars. That list. Wow,
Speaker 1: I like that. This is the Saints defense though. I
Speaker 1: think Saints defense travels well. It's just like one thing
Speaker 1: and you just swiped your arm desperately. It's tough when
Speaker 1: you're when you're owing five, you know you're Yeah, you've
Speaker 1: got against the Saints a couple of times that the
Speaker 1: Saints might have. Oh I forgot. That's why I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna lock up this game because Dud just locked up
Speaker 1: against the Saints again. Going to win this game too,
Speaker 1: but the Saints might have the best, Like, oh man,
Speaker 1: what did I do? Leonard fot Maybe this is really
Speaker 1: put yourself out there what you've done here? Alright, alright, Mark,
Speaker 1: you're up. One question. Could Shot Khan trade uh Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey to his Fulham soccer team for the rest of
Speaker 1: the year just to end Jalen Ramsey's his all his
Speaker 1: desires shut out, but he doesn't lose his property. And
Speaker 1: then he brings the soccer team. Doesn't get any value
Speaker 1: of property. And with is a soccer player going to
Speaker 1: play on the Jaguars or something? What is he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to play football? That includes all football, just saying
Speaker 1: get him out of the scene. All right, here we
Speaker 1: go my second pick. I am not interested in any
Speaker 1: of these late games. They are they're stink fest for
Speaker 1: the most part. Uh So I'm gonna go early again
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go with the game that is the
Speaker 1: most interesting game to me of the week. And you're
Speaker 1: gonna tell me it's a terrible pick. And then I
Speaker 1: don't know how to process this and hire thing the
Speaker 1: Redskins that the Dolphins. I mean that actually I probably
Speaker 1: would have taken it. This is the best Dolphins game
Speaker 1: of the year. It's got to be. It's the only
Speaker 1: one that they really. I mean, it's the only one
Speaker 1: that's not pointless. What I hear over and over is
Speaker 1: everyone telling me the Dolphins are this is the week
Speaker 1: that they're going to go in and drop a bomb
Speaker 1: on the Redskins. I think it's the opposite. I think
Speaker 1: Washington's defense is going to absolutely neutralize Josh Rosen the
Speaker 1: entire Dolphins offensive line. I took a note last week
Speaker 1: that the Redskins I thought had maybe the worst offensive
Speaker 1: line performance that I'd seen all year. But then I
Speaker 1: just forgot about the fact that the Dolphins exist week
Speaker 1: after week and they were on by These are two
Speaker 1: terrible offensive lines, So that could equal some immense defensive
Speaker 1: chaos for the Redskins, who I think are gonna make life.
Speaker 1: They've made life tough on Brady, I thought early on
Speaker 1: in that game last week, and now you're playing an
Speaker 1: absolute Roman stink fest in the Dolphins. So what did
Speaker 1: that happen? Can I say why I would never picked
Speaker 1: this game and probably never watch it is what is
Speaker 1: there to learn? What is it? Well, it's a big
Speaker 1: game for the number one over I'll pick. I do
Speaker 1: find the Dolphins interesting because there's the whole this whole
Speaker 1: idea of it's so weird, but you're interested by the
Speaker 1: idea of what they're attempting to do. Ye how it
Speaker 1: plays out for the actual humans doing it, how under
Speaker 1: man they are. Like Taco Charlton can't even stay on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys roster. He comes to Miami and he's their
Speaker 1: number one defensive, number one defensive end in terms of snaps.
Speaker 1: It's just strange. And then I'm interested in Josh Rosen,
Speaker 1: who has made some throws and then has you know,
Speaker 1: hasn't scored a point. Neither did Fitzpatrick in the second
Speaker 1: half of games. That the problem with Rosen, and they
Speaker 1: announced this week he's going to start the rest of
Speaker 1: the year that that's the plan. He might get Albert
Speaker 1: Wilson back this week, which helps. He doesn't know how
Speaker 1: to manage the game, which is a pretty significant part.
Speaker 1: I think of a quarterbacks job, like you can kind
Speaker 1: of tell the smaller things he does not excel at.
Speaker 1: I derive a particular thrill in picking games that Dan
Speaker 1: does not find enjoyable and then watching his head in
Speaker 1: mind totally spin out of control because he's like, cannot
Speaker 1: comprehend that I didn't take some four o'clock Fox game
Speaker 1: with Roy and I'll watch it when I want to.
Speaker 1: I we're not even gonna get to observe these games
Speaker 1: the way that we normally do. We're gonna be in
Speaker 1: a state of the chatter boxes. It's it's totally integrity
Speaker 1: of the draft, though. You want to look at it
Speaker 1: as if games that you would want to watch if
Speaker 1: you can and Dolphins do this season. If the Dolphins
Speaker 1: win this game at home, the talk becomes, oh my god,
Speaker 1: here they gotta beat the Bengals at home later in
Speaker 1: the year, they gotta beat the Jets at home. Maybe
Speaker 1: later in the year. Are they gottas That appeals to
Speaker 1: you that that will be the talk. I mean, I
Speaker 1: find the Dolphins. There's so many fun things in the
Speaker 1: league to talk about and think about why different people
Speaker 1: different preferences. Dan Okay to point in the second half
Speaker 1: correct eight one zip. Callahan said they're going to focus
Speaker 1: on the running game much more now that he's the coach.
Speaker 1: We could go wrong, doptins. The Dolphins do have a
Speaker 1: bye week coming, They're coming off a lot of time
Speaker 1: to prepare for the opponent. I don't doubt that that
Speaker 1: the preparation happening in this Miami think tank right now
Speaker 1: is going to be nothing short of devastating for them.
Speaker 1: How bad are the Redskins? Brother is the headline this morning.
Speaker 1: Bill Callahan brings fresh attitude to Rensikins. It's like, okay, bro,
Speaker 1: they're so bad that they started out as pretty big
Speaker 1: favorites in this game and everyone the Desert, But maybe
Speaker 1: that's not a good sign for them. If you if
Speaker 1: the Desert sees he was essentially a field goal better
Speaker 1: than a team that's actively trying to lose every game,
Speaker 1: You're doing something very wrong. All right? Up next, Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: Pick two? Is it now? Greg's draft board? I might
Speaker 1: go kind of with the similar thing of Mark. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go late and just get my late game out
Speaker 1: of the way. Falcon's Cardinal. Two bad teams This late
Speaker 1: slate isn't uh too delicious, but I of the bad teams,
Speaker 1: these are two that I don't mind watching, especially the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals are number one right now and run running
Speaker 1: d v o A. They're adding new plays each week
Speaker 1: where David Johnson and especially Kyler Murray and even Chase
Speaker 1: Edmonds who's a nifty little player, have some fun play
Speaker 1: and they're trying to find who they are and and
Speaker 1: what I've learned by watching a lot of Falcons game,
Speaker 1: if you have offensive troubles, just play the Falcons and
Speaker 1: they will solve everything for you. So I actually think
Speaker 1: this might be a Cardinals game that we expected all
Speaker 1: year where it's thirty five to thirty one, because Atlanta
Speaker 1: is going to score in this game too, and I
Speaker 1: think there'll be a lot of a lot of scoring,
Speaker 1: not much media, but I think there'll be some good play.
Speaker 1: Julio Jones is playing like Julio Jones this year. He
Speaker 1: looks like still one of the best three wide receivers
Speaker 1: in league. There's a lot to watch. I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Falcons just devastating week last week, allowing
Speaker 1: nearly six hundred yards four hundred and twenty plus through
Speaker 1: the year, and the Cardinals you can see, and I
Speaker 1: wasn't impressed with this offense at much at all over
Speaker 1: early on because they just I wanted to see something
Speaker 1: strikingly different visually, and it looks to me like just
Speaker 1: a lot of other football. But they are starting to
Speaker 1: allow Kyler Murray to run a little bit more. He's
Speaker 1: using his legs. I think you know, it's easy to
Speaker 1: forget that this is a guy that's only been in
Speaker 1: the league for five weeks because he was just presumed
Speaker 1: to be the starter who's going to produce right away.
Speaker 1: Well he I think he's quietly been everything they could
Speaker 1: have asked for and there's a long way to go.
Speaker 1: But to me, this matchup, I'm maybe I may I
Speaker 1: perhaps made the wrong pick by taking Redston stops. This
Speaker 1: feels slightly spicy, but no, but here's the thing. Here's
Speaker 1: how this thing actually works. I can equally just watch
Speaker 1: that with my eyes. At the same time, I could
Speaker 1: be having drinks with Dr Chow and Sherman Oaks and
Speaker 1: watched this game if I want to anythinking. I mean,
Speaker 1: we are contracts to be in London to becovery in
Speaker 1: the games. I don't think you can go chow it up. Well,
Speaker 1: be doing that next week. When we did our Inside
Speaker 1: the Huddle show with Neil Reynolds, as Greg mentioned earlier
Speaker 1: on Sky Sports, he asked us about our biggest disappointments
Speaker 1: through the twenty you know, thus far in the season,
Speaker 1: and for me, the obvious one would be my favorite team,
Speaker 1: the Jets, But outside of that, the Falcons to me
Speaker 1: are depressing, because that's it. They're super Bowl windows shut.
Speaker 1: And if you were there and you were at that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and you saw, or if you watch it
Speaker 1: on your couch, how crushing that game was, and the
Speaker 1: fact that they were able to come back the next
Speaker 1: year and still be relevant and even win a playoff game,
Speaker 1: and now we've seen them degrade degrade further last year,
Speaker 1: losing I believe nine games, and now this year one
Speaker 1: and four and looking like they are uh, going nowhere fast.
Speaker 1: It just again is a reminder why when you have
Speaker 1: that opportunity, and this is this is not any you know,
Speaker 1: sports genius analysis, but it's just the reality of life,
Speaker 1: with anything of life, when you have your opportunity, you
Speaker 1: gotta strike and pounce on it. They didn't do it.
Speaker 1: And now it looks like that Ryan's young enough where
Speaker 1: maybe they could rebuild around him again and take another shot.
Speaker 1: But there's a better chance that that was it, and
Speaker 1: this this Falcons team, uh and this arrow will always
Speaker 1: be remembered for that game and they don't get another
Speaker 1: shot at it. So that That's where I'm at with
Speaker 1: the Falcons right now. There's just a tough watching, a
Speaker 1: bit of a depressing watch, well, I think to put
Speaker 1: a stamp on it. Which are they even better than
Speaker 1: the Cardinals? Who's the face? They might not win a
Speaker 1: road game all the year. I know what, I don't
Speaker 1: know that the Falcons are better than the Cardinals. That better?
Speaker 1: I mean like the Falcons are would feel like a
Speaker 1: four and eleven, four and twelve, five and eleven operation
Speaker 1: right now? All right, Uh, I'm up next, and I
Speaker 1: will take an early game because I uh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be a little late game heavy. So I don't have
Speaker 1: a great choice here, but I don't want to watch
Speaker 1: the Bungles, So let's go with the Panthers at Bucks. Um,
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna be there. What's that We're gonna
Speaker 1: be there? Yeah? Yeah, that's good. Nan was not aware
Speaker 1: that we were covering that game. That feels like where
Speaker 1: are all four of us? May have takes on, but
Speaker 1: that that feels like one that's not eligible. It's like
Speaker 1: it's got to be a great home crowd in Tampa
Speaker 1: the Pirates ship. You should not have said anything. I
Speaker 1: might have kept going, yes, this will be played at
Speaker 1: Spurs Stadium, and uh we will do that sideline. If
Speaker 1: you're in the we're actually other parts of Europe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can catch us with Hannah Wilkes, right, you've on
Speaker 1: the sideline throughout the game, but you I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't I'm going to step in here from a
Speaker 1: league perspective and say you've just is taking yourself out
Speaker 1: of work. Essentially, you're like, we're all going to be watched.
Speaker 1: I will be the one truly watching the game. Is
Speaker 1: how I'll be looking at it. Someone has to officially
Speaker 1: cover it. That is makes sense. We have gone so
Speaker 1: far from the the integrity of this process at this point. No,
Speaker 1: the killing for Dolphins Redskins and you're taking this is
Speaker 1: it's important to have eyes on this game, and I
Speaker 1: will have the eyes on the game. And it's a
Speaker 1: It's a fun game because a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: you would you thought this was gonna be a dog
Speaker 1: here in London, but instead you have the Panthers who
Speaker 1: were playing really well. Um, and obviously we know that
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, who you know, it's maybe a little bit early,
Speaker 1: but when you look at the VP race, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I know running back hasn't won this award since
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, but Christian McCaffrey. Blah blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: but he's incredible. The Bucks defense can they handle McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but they did it last time. They
Speaker 1: were the only team to do it all year. If
Speaker 1: you didn't watch that game, this is a game pass
Speaker 1: game to watch. Christian McCaffrey gets better every week, and
Speaker 1: he is making moves that I'm not sure I've ever
Speaker 1: seen running backs make. I'm a little nervous. He showed
Speaker 1: up on the injury report with a BA and he
Speaker 1: did that flip into the end zone last week. I
Speaker 1: hope he didn't jack himself up. He didn't finish that game.
Speaker 1: He was Some of the mistackles he forced by the
Speaker 1: Jaguars defenders were just incredible to watch. He when he
Speaker 1: came in, I thought, Okay, Alvin Kamara is definitely better
Speaker 1: than Christian McCaffrey. The next year, two thousand and eighteen,
Speaker 1: Camara is probably better than Christian McCaffrey. And then this year,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I don't think Alvin Kamara is better than
Speaker 1: Christian mccaffy. I don't think he's playing better. Now, I'd
Speaker 1: still take him here. Well, we'll see the Bucks shut
Speaker 1: McCaffrey down. They they have a really strong run defense,
Speaker 1: and they have other than that, like just a lot
Speaker 1: of hope and prayer on their defense. It's kind of
Speaker 1: a matchup like which team's scheme who has been covering
Speaker 1: up for a lack of talent can do it for
Speaker 1: another week, because I feel like Todd Bowles is just
Speaker 1: throwing stuff against the wall, blitzing like crazy because he
Speaker 1: does not have players. If Shaq barrett as it doesn't
Speaker 1: have a pass rush, they don't have anything. And then
Speaker 1: the Panthers have kind of done it the other way
Speaker 1: around on offense, like scheming for Kyle Allen and doing
Speaker 1: a nice job. I think that like the Kyle Allen
Speaker 1: game against the Cardinals, like the power of first impressions
Speaker 1: that he played so well against an awful defense. It
Speaker 1: maybe changed a little bit too much what people think
Speaker 1: about him because he's had issues with fumble since I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not protected the ball well and you can't roll
Speaker 1: a week to week losing. He's been like the reason
Speaker 1: they should lose though I'm not I'm not putting them
Speaker 1: together with I'm not He's not. It's been as good
Speaker 1: as Gardner Minshew. I agree with that for sure. He's
Speaker 1: not been as bad as Chase Daniel. Well, Chase Daniel
Speaker 1: is just a career backup at this point, Like there's
Speaker 1: still hope that Kyle Allen could be something more. I think.
Speaker 1: And it's been three games and you know they're they're
Speaker 1: getting more tape on them. They're going into a bye.
Speaker 1: It would be interesting if they win this game there
Speaker 1: four and oh with Kyle Allen, you would think the
Speaker 1: bye might be a time you'd hear more about Cam
Speaker 1: Newton coming back. Yeah, that's something to watch because if
Speaker 1: they keep winning, and I know Allen, you know we're
Speaker 1: just talking about it is not playing out of his
Speaker 1: mind or anything, would there be the temptation just to
Speaker 1: keep not rock the boat? Let's say mind, yeah, my mind,
Speaker 1: my mind, all right, let's snake it. Ricky Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: and New York Jets. I got banged last week because
Speaker 1: I reached for my Jets thinking Donald would be back.
Speaker 1: You know I wasn't the only one that reached thinking
Speaker 1: Donald would be back. It was Adam Gatee as well. Uh,
Speaker 1: and that led to more trouble with Luke Fawk, who
Speaker 1: will never see again. By the way, I'll put a
Speaker 1: sandwich out there if he ever takes another NFL snap.
Speaker 1: We had that with with Ryan Linley, Yes, and I
Speaker 1: think I thought we're going to find a way to
Speaker 1: see Ryan Linley at some point never played again. That's
Speaker 1: essentially though saying Sam Donald will play every snap for
Speaker 1: the rest of the year, which maybe it's not a
Speaker 1: Jetsy thing. That's true, and that's where the risk is
Speaker 1: and where maybe of the opportunity. But I would think
Speaker 1: someone far enough to go get someone now that gives
Speaker 1: you a better chance, go get a BRONC. Why did
Speaker 1: he do it or another It was another mistake by Gaze,
Speaker 1: who has not had a good start of the season.
Speaker 1: But like I said, now we can begin to truly
Speaker 1: judge whether the Jets are gonna to be able to
Speaker 1: improve the season, because now you're gonna have Donald. He
Speaker 1: had the symptoms of mono and the week one game
Speaker 1: against the Bills and then missed every game since. The
Speaker 1: Jets have lost games and not been competitive. So they
Speaker 1: get Donald back, who, in addition to being a far
Speaker 1: superior pastor to Luke Fowk or uh Trevor Simeon, who
Speaker 1: was Luke Fowk like in his half before he blew
Speaker 1: out his ankle against the Browns. Uh. Donald has got
Speaker 1: a better arm, He's more accurate, he's and most of all,
Speaker 1: he's able to read the field and read defenses and
Speaker 1: get into different types of plays and make things happen.
Speaker 1: That just there was The Jets had no chance on
Speaker 1: offense the last few weeks. So what are killing um
Speaker 1: gays for not having the right backup quarterback and not
Speaker 1: choosing well or not choosing a better third string quarterback.
Speaker 1: I guess you can get on them, but at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, now we get to see if
Speaker 1: they can move the ball. There was also supposed to
Speaker 1: get back Chris Herned in the tight end, but in
Speaker 1: pure two thousand nineteen Jets um circumstances, he pulled a
Speaker 1: hamstring running on Friday on his own and now he's
Speaker 1: week to week, so he's not coming back. They will
Speaker 1: be better, the Jets. Are they better to beat the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I think this is a
Speaker 1: game because I think Dallas is a little shook right
Speaker 1: now after what happened the last two weeks, especially what
Speaker 1: happened in Big D. So I think that um this
Speaker 1: could be a closer game than the Desert believes. I
Speaker 1: don't think the Jets come at it with their first win,
Speaker 1: but I think Donald makes this game fun to watch.
Speaker 1: You rightfully talked about the theme of the Jets and
Speaker 1: everything that can happen and all the bad stuff, and
Speaker 1: it has been frightful, no doubt. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: if someone were to present you with a written script
Speaker 1: over the course of like fifteen pages of what's happened
Speaker 1: over the first five weeks, you would have fainted and
Speaker 1: probably never recovered, and we would never have seen you again.
Speaker 1: The show would have folded, our careers would have been
Speaker 1: so I'm glad that didn't happen. But I mean, they
Speaker 1: have scored twenty three points since Darnald, since Donald's been out.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that. To be that bad in
Speaker 1: the NFL, I've been historically awful, but at this point,
Speaker 1: I would say, if you're a Jets fan, you have
Speaker 1: to almost package all that hardship and sell it down
Speaker 1: the river, because this is what you signed up for,
Speaker 1: and this this is the the other people believe too.
Speaker 1: For some reason, this is the Romo nance game, and
Speaker 1: the best thing that could happen is Romo. You know,
Speaker 1: waxing poetic about all the great things he's seen from
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. No matter what's happening score wise in this game,
Speaker 1: you want to hear him see going off on how
Speaker 1: beautiful Sam Darnald looks in this thing that said, if
Speaker 1: Dallas lost to the Jets, they are done. In my book,
Speaker 1: you cannot go in and lose to the Jets. People
Speaker 1: are being weird about the Cowboys. They're panicking for some reason.
Speaker 1: I didn't see that game last week because I was
Speaker 1: covering the other game, and I went back and watched it.
Speaker 1: I didn't get the sense the Packers were the better
Speaker 1: team the Cowboys. This idea that Mike Patton was eating
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore's lunch. Give me a break. The Cowboys were
Speaker 1: marching up and down the field, but chunk plays in
Speaker 1: the first half and uh Amari Cooper drops a touchdown
Speaker 1: right in his hands for an interception, and people acting
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys aren't moving the ball. He moved the
Speaker 1: ball for five sixty eight yards and are now the
Speaker 1: number one offense in the league according to d v
Speaker 1: o A. Then they've got a tough matchup this week.
Speaker 1: I've been really impressed with how hard the Jets defense
Speaker 1: has played. They've been a pretty good defense. Their tenth
Speaker 1: and defensive d v o A. Neville Hewitt and Jamal
Speaker 1: Adams really struck me last week. It was twenty four
Speaker 1: to six. The Jets had just kind of lucked into
Speaker 1: a touchdown where they got to turn over in a
Speaker 1: in an end around. The game's so over and I
Speaker 1: think the Jets forced the three and out. I might
Speaker 1: be missing a detail or two here. And Adams and Hewitt,
Speaker 1: who have both played great this year, I don't know
Speaker 1: where Nevill Hua came from, are jumping around and celebrating
Speaker 1: like they just won a playoff game. And they gave
Speaker 1: up seventeen points in about twelve or thirteen drives against
Speaker 1: the Eagles, And if you really look at what they
Speaker 1: did against Eagles, they've been a solid defense. And I
Speaker 1: just I guess I'm impressed how hard they're playing when
Speaker 1: they have no hope to win each And that's why
Speaker 1: you can't ruin Jamal Adams. He's he's so pure, like
Speaker 1: doesn't he doesn't matter how bad his team is. He
Speaker 1: plays like that every week. And even though it's you know,
Speaker 1: you give some credit to Greg Williams for them playing hard.
Speaker 1: I bet it is Jamal Adams. It's that it's a
Speaker 1: leadership because they're not getting a ton. Lenny Williams had
Speaker 1: a good game last week, but you know they're not
Speaker 1: getting a ton from their defensive line. I just think
Speaker 1: they've been active in it. So I don't think this
Speaker 1: is Williams enough credit. I think he's a good defensive right.
Speaker 1: I think he has the right sort of coach and
Speaker 1: he's got him coach up and C. J. Mosley, by
Speaker 1: the way, who they gave a trillion dollars too. And
Speaker 1: he left the first game of the season in the
Speaker 1: second half with a groin injury, and promptly the Bills
Speaker 1: came back and beat the Jets, sending their season into
Speaker 1: a spiral. He practiced the next week, I believe, and
Speaker 1: then got ruled out and he's still out. They're coming
Speaker 1: off a bye, still out, and he won't be playing
Speaker 1: this week. So it turns out to be a growing
Speaker 1: injury that it could cost them half the season, if
Speaker 1: not more. So they've been able to work around that. Uh,
Speaker 1: they just need to show some um guts on offense
Speaker 1: and put up some points, all right, but by one
Speaker 1: on one concern though, is that Donald's still playing behind
Speaker 1: an awful offensive line. It's it's gonna be a challenge.
Speaker 1: They tried it up, they tried to change it around
Speaker 1: last week, and it seemed to play worst they I
Speaker 1: think they've changed two of their starts. A major issue.
Speaker 1: That will be, mark my words, the number one UM
Speaker 1: draft target. They might take two offensive linement in their
Speaker 1: first two picks. All right, let's move on, Greg, you
Speaker 1: have the pendultimate pick of the draft. Yeah. And because
Speaker 1: you know I like um Chris so much, you know,
Speaker 1: longtime friends. I'm just gonna leave the Titans Broncos game
Speaker 1: for him because that's the West Bowl. I mean, those
Speaker 1: are his two favorite teams. They play the most boring
Speaker 1: brands of football in the league, and West just says
Speaker 1: I need to have that game or else I'll hate you.
Speaker 1: So I will take Lamar going up against the Bengals.
Speaker 1: I think Lamar in between hob nobbing and networking and
Speaker 1: handing up business cards. If Graham double crosses me, go ahead, Uh,
Speaker 1: maybe Lamar needs me. I had him the first couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. It was it was delicious to watch him
Speaker 1: play live. Haven't watching the play live since. And they've
Speaker 1: been struggling, and this is great to play a Bengals
Speaker 1: defense that hopefully won't present too many problems. You get
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown and Mark Andrew's back involved. They've both been
Speaker 1: very quiet the last three weeks. I'm not panicking about
Speaker 1: the Ravens either. I think they're gonna be a little
Speaker 1: up and down. They're not a totally complete team, but
Speaker 1: they're the type of organization like the Patriots, who I
Speaker 1: think can figure things out as they go and potentially
Speaker 1: have the talent to be much more dangerous in the
Speaker 1: middle of December than they've showed week to week. They've
Speaker 1: been very erratic, and they've been helped out enormously by
Speaker 1: the scheduled Gods by playing Devlin Hodges and then the
Speaker 1: Bengals and back to back weeks get a win. This
Speaker 1: is Lamar Jackson. This is big for your making the
Speaker 1: leap piece, because he's been a little hot and cold
Speaker 1: the last few weeks. Throw out you know, a hundred
Speaker 1: yards rushing, two hundred and seventeen yards passing, you know,
Speaker 1: four total touchdown day. We're right back on the course
Speaker 1: with making the leap and you got the right set
Speaker 1: up for it. I mean his numbers if he pays
Speaker 1: them out, are good, He's gonna he sort of was
Speaker 1: due to come back down to earth. I'm more interested
Speaker 1: to see if the Ravens, to uh, their defense did
Speaker 1: a good job I think against Pittsburgh, and you should
Speaker 1: This Bengals offense is very easy to shut down. If
Speaker 1: there anything like the Ravens defense should be, they should
Speaker 1: show well. The Bengals are an attack right now centered
Speaker 1: around Tyler Boyd. I mean, they're just it's kind of
Speaker 1: like last year they got they they I'm not saying
Speaker 1: they're even nearly as good as they started last year
Speaker 1: that there they've been a total travesty, but injuries ravaged
Speaker 1: the team last year and it's happen again. Can we please,
Speaker 1: we are as we tape this, we are twenty in
Speaker 1: the post. We are nineteen days away from the trade deadline.
Speaker 1: Can we get a J. Green out of town? Can
Speaker 1: we send him to a contender? Can we see a G.
Speaker 1: Green once he gets healthy, playing in games that matter?
Speaker 1: First round pick to the Patriots, Let's do it. I'm
Speaker 1: with anywhere but the Patriots. Anywhere but the Patriots. Where
Speaker 1: are you on the Patriots West? Because you obviously we're
Speaker 1: very outspell dead to me, I don't pick them. I
Speaker 1: watched them last on game plays every week. I don't
Speaker 1: pick him in any of these covers. They are dead
Speaker 1: to me. I don't respect their head coach anymore. That
Speaker 1: was my question. So if you're new to the show
Speaker 1: or perhaps don't remember this, West got very angry and
Speaker 1: lost a lot of respect for Antona or for Bill
Speaker 1: Bell checking the Patriots. Now, the Patriots decided to bail
Speaker 1: and they said this isn't working, and they quickly got
Speaker 1: out after one game. And I was just curious, because
Speaker 1: we've never followed up on this, if that perhaps saved
Speaker 1: your relationship. They get no credit whatsoever for bailing on
Speaker 1: him when they should have bailed on him long before that.
Speaker 1: It took until there were rape allegations before they finally
Speaker 1: washed their hands. And so I'm gonna counterfire, and uh,
Speaker 1: with the math that Dan was doing fresh in my mind, alright,
Speaker 1: bringing back up one of my favorite moments from last night.
Speaker 1: We played some darts and in that dark game, we
Speaker 1: had too half. We had your your score was cut
Speaker 1: in half every time you didn't score, And uh, I
Speaker 1: really and we had to write it down, and I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed Dan putting that half of seventy six? Uh no, no,
Speaker 1: what was it was? Half of six? Was thirty nine?
Speaker 1: Is that right? I was? And you said it was nineteen?
Speaker 1: That was that was even lower? It was thirty six
Speaker 1: and you made half of it nineteen and appelling radio
Speaker 1: one oh one. No, I'm not good. After several drinks,
Speaker 1: I get worse. I blew it in the big spot. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, let's see anything else in that game? No, right,
Speaker 1: I mean unless we want to delve even further off
Speaker 1: topic away from the Ravens. That's only That's the only true. Um. Now,
Speaker 1: I think if if we were allowed to take the
Speaker 1: Cowboys for locks, I mean I'm taking them, but I
Speaker 1: didn't think that was allowed. Please, Cowboys were all all right, West, Well,
Speaker 1: it looks like I've got my dream matchup tightened that Broncos.
Speaker 1: The first quarterback not to take a third down sack
Speaker 1: in this game wins. This is the battle of third
Speaker 1: down sacks for both of these teams. Two poor, hideous
Speaker 1: offensive lines and two um boring quarterbacks to watch. Wow,
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like you're that excited. I love watching
Speaker 1: games at that field, but no, I mean it is
Speaker 1: a grass field. Your confidence in the Broncos is pretty strong, though.
Speaker 1: We were talking about this game off air yesterday and
Speaker 1: you were just like, Titans aren't going there and winning.
Speaker 1: You know, well, I think that the Broncos are. They're
Speaker 1: not a better team than the Broncos. The Broncos are
Speaker 1: one of those teams that's clearly better than their record,
Speaker 1: and I've been saying that all year. They have had
Speaker 1: miserable luck. But do you think they're clearly better than
Speaker 1: the Titans. I don't. I kind of think they're similar,
Speaker 1: but I trust the Titans defense. I don't secondary Moore. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're clearly better than the Titans because
Speaker 1: I don't know who the Titans are. I just have
Speaker 1: no idea who they are from week to week except
Speaker 1: that their offensive line is miserable. I came close to
Speaker 1: locking this game up for Denver because I like them
Speaker 1: in their building, even though they've lost two games there.
Speaker 1: They've both been on field goals at the Gun and Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I don't ever trust them one way or the other,
Speaker 1: and they're on the road in a tough environment. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's that the Titoons thing where you never know when
Speaker 1: they have the thirty one thirteen win up their sleeve,
Speaker 1: just to keep people invested a little bit and keep
Speaker 1: them on the radar. That could certainly happen here and
Speaker 1: in general, especially on another uh on the topic of
Speaker 1: the five game lock losing streak. Locking up at one
Speaker 1: and four team just seems like bad business. Yeah, Philip
Speaker 1: Lindsay looked great last week. I think Courtland Sutton's developed
Speaker 1: a lot. Well, it's not a great situation for him
Speaker 1: in that offense. But you would have to shoot me
Speaker 1: with five thousand arrows before I lock up Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: on the road or at home. So I'm with youll
Speaker 1: be a decision someone would make for me by raising
Speaker 1: my dad and their lip pick. By the way, just
Speaker 1: want to cycle back and take a look at my draft.
Speaker 1: Not only have I taken what you were well, no,
Speaker 1: this is this is this is another draft where I've
Speaker 1: won in the end in terms of our actual workload.
Speaker 1: You can get all excited about these games. I have two.
Speaker 1: I have two games. How is that possible? Because I
Speaker 1: have masterminded the process? Because you should have taken Denver
Speaker 1: in Tennessee and I should have had absolutely not. So
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you once, I'll be roaming around that
Speaker 1: British stadium doing as I please. That is a snake
Speaker 1: got you. Sometimes the snake bites you, all right. That
Speaker 1: takes us to primetime football, starting with Sunday night Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: at Chargers. I can't believe they inflex out of this.
Speaker 1: I Greg, you're you're optimistic about all football teams, and
Speaker 1: he's just the general idea of football is always fun
Speaker 1: no matter what to watch sport I can't. I love
Speaker 1: the sport. I have a love affair with the sport,
Speaker 1: but some teams I just don't get any joy out
Speaker 1: of watching. As much as I respect Philip Rivers is
Speaker 1: a quarterback and he's a Hall of Famer, He's never
Speaker 1: excited me that much. And this year is not getting
Speaker 1: any better. I don't love watching the Chargers on game Pass.
Speaker 1: And now you got Duck Phillips. No, that's the mad
Speaker 1: Men character. Who's a Duck Devlin Devlin, Duck Hodges, Duck
Speaker 1: Hodges going on the road. I guess there will be
Speaker 1: a lot of Steelers fans because it will be in
Speaker 1: l A against the Chargers, But I can't get excited
Speaker 1: about this. Tell me why I should get excited at it.
Speaker 1: This has been one of the toughest Chargers teams to watch,
Speaker 1: so I agree with you. I think Rivers and Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen are always fun to watch. Rivers has always been
Speaker 1: one of my favorite quarterbacks to watch because of how
Speaker 1: he moves in the pocket and how he throws those
Speaker 1: mid range twenty yard throws with his funny, funky motion
Speaker 1: and it's so pretty. No one plays, no one throws
Speaker 1: play football quite like Philip Rivers, and I like I
Speaker 1: like players that are unique unto themselves. But I'm worried
Speaker 1: about this matchup. They are a pretty one dimensional team
Speaker 1: and without Melvin Ingram. Uh. The announcers a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago made a good point, doubling Bosa is easy.
Speaker 1: That's what the Patriots did in the playoff game. They
Speaker 1: doubled Bosa and Ingram every single snap and totally let
Speaker 1: try to make the rest of their defense, which isn't
Speaker 1: that talent to beat them, and they couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: And now you don't even have Ingram, and I think
Speaker 1: it's a pretty limited defense and that Duck Hodges might
Speaker 1: be able to go up and down the field. With
Speaker 1: a nice home crowd here, for the Steelers. It's pretty
Speaker 1: like this was one of the I thought best primetime
Speaker 1: games of the year last year, and how far apart
Speaker 1: we are from that time period where the Steelers look
Speaker 1: nothing like they did obviously because of injuries, and the
Speaker 1: Chargers have to be viewed as one of the most
Speaker 1: disappointing teams in the a f C, A team that,
Speaker 1: even when they weren't disappointing in the past, don't seem
Speaker 1: to live up to these some of their parts. And
Speaker 1: this year injuries have absolutely ravaged and they've lost Mike
Speaker 1: Pouncey now at center, and no matter what's going on
Speaker 1: at quarterback for Pittsburgh, I just don't love the concept
Speaker 1: of having to deal with Pittsburgh's pass rush. They are
Speaker 1: wrecking people week after week every week, right, They could
Speaker 1: steal almost any game because of that factor alone. Stephen
Speaker 1: to it at defensive end. It feels like he's playing
Speaker 1: as well as any defensive linemen out there. Um and
Speaker 1: they're up the seventh and d v O A after
Speaker 1: starting off the season pretty poorly the Chargers. This is
Speaker 1: the problem with in the off season, you talk about
Speaker 1: the draft and everyone pretends like they know who these
Speaker 1: guys are and all and just assumes these rookies are
Speaker 1: gonna be good. But everyone is well, that defense is loaded,
Speaker 1: and you you know, you throw in Jerry Tillery and
Speaker 1: the Seer Adderly and those are their two big weakness spots,
Speaker 1: and you plug those two rookies in and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be great. I mean, I think I actually said that
Speaker 1: people we were talking going back to the summer shows.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I mean, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: don't remember saying that. Everyone was saying that. My point
Speaker 1: is their defense is terrible. They could use these two
Speaker 1: guys so much, and they can't really get on the field,
Speaker 1: either because of injuries or they're not playing well. They're
Speaker 1: not contributing anything to a defense that's totally big because
Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to happen with rookies, U
Speaker 1: keenan Allen. You mentioned Greg who through the first three
Speaker 1: games this season was off to a historic start in
Speaker 1: terms of production. He really cooled off against the Dolphins
Speaker 1: and Broncos. You would assume he's been so consistent in
Speaker 1: his career, he's actually never been held under fifty yards.
Speaker 1: Receiving a three consecutive games in prime time. I feel
Speaker 1: like we are. This could be a big Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: game and that could mean big things for the Chargers.
Speaker 1: If so, let's pick this game. You should be happy
Speaker 1: it's a Sunday night game because that means it's one
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning here. It's probably the one game
Speaker 1: we do not have a chance of seeing and we
Speaker 1: will pass this game off actually as well. So like
Speaker 1: like we told you, Eddie Spaghetti and Jeremy Bergman are
Speaker 1: doing Thursday Night Football Sunday at Football Burgo's back Star
Speaker 1: of the two thousand five Will Ferrell drama Kicking and
Speaker 1: people say that movie is underrated. I can't at all.
Speaker 1: You're thinking, no, no, no, it's no. I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: the soccer one people like. I think for kids, if
Speaker 1: you have kids, people like it. Well, I would say
Speaker 1: this Bergman in it is uh. He's got range. He's
Speaker 1: a talented actor and I don't know why he walked
Speaker 1: away from the trade. But the other kicking and screaming
Speaker 1: has a lot more going on. If you're looking to
Speaker 1: be engaged mentally, it's and it's not. He did not
Speaker 1: write this script. He took the role. And I think
Speaker 1: believe Mike Dick appears in this movie, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of get that residual check to Burgo. But anyway,
Speaker 1: Burgo will be joined by oh my goodness, the paramore,
Speaker 1: Lakisha Jackson Westling will be joining on Sunday night to
Speaker 1: wrap up our podcast. So that's exciting. Great pinch hitter
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Speaker 1: her and Will Blackman, former NFL player now a uh
Speaker 1: talent analyst for Sky Sports, recording the latest episode just
Speaker 1: last night after the Tavern alright, finally Monday Night football.
Speaker 1: We will be back in America. Um probably around a
Speaker 1: halftime of this game. I believe the Detroit Lions at
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers nice game. Nice game. Now the
Speaker 1: US maybe didn't look like a nice game on the
Speaker 1: schedule because nobody was excited about the Lions. Everybody thought
Speaker 1: the Lions were gonna give us another Lions year. And
Speaker 1: perhaps by the end of December that will be the case.
Speaker 1: But so far this season, Mark the Lions have been entertaining.
Speaker 1: They've been really good on offense, um, especially their ability
Speaker 1: to move the ball through the air with Matthew Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: who's off to one of the best starts of his career.
Speaker 1: There running game is much improved, much improved with Carrie
Speaker 1: on Johnson and friends. And now they get the Packers
Speaker 1: coming off that win against Darlas a convincing win, but
Speaker 1: one where uh like West said, the Cowboys were able
Speaker 1: to move the ball. Do you think the Lions will
Speaker 1: do the same at Lambeau. This is a tough, tough
Speaker 1: draw for them. I mean, green Bay's offense gets a
Speaker 1: lot of commentary because of the Rogers and Matt Lafleur
Speaker 1: sideline issues that people are glomming onto. I don't really
Speaker 1: care about a lot of that stuff. They've scored points
Speaker 1: to seven plus points in three straight games. I think
Speaker 1: that offense is starting to gel a little bit. Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones has been great, But the Lions, if you go
Speaker 1: back to that Chiefs game, they killed themselves with turnovers.
Speaker 1: If they if they didn't have that didn't happen to
Speaker 1: them in that game off karry On Johnson hadn't fumbled
Speaker 1: the ball on the one yard line. Stafford had a
Speaker 1: fumble on the five, but if Johnson had not done that,
Speaker 1: which was returned by Bashad Brelan for a hundred yard touchdown,
Speaker 1: they beat the Chiefs and the fourth and eight. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs had a fourth and eight on their last drive.
Speaker 1: The Lions get one stop, the game's over right. My
Speaker 1: one concern watching Detroit's defense, and it was a very
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes esque type. They just got they They let
Speaker 1: Mahomes do whatever he wanted to on that final game
Speaker 1: winning drive. And I just Detroit's got I gotta find
Speaker 1: a way to get to Rogers and make life tough
Speaker 1: on him. But what a treat that. This is actually
Speaker 1: not a stinker, because when I looked at the schedule
Speaker 1: and they put this here, I thought, you don't put
Speaker 1: this on prime time. Even this weight laid into the season,
Speaker 1: because Detroit seemed like they had I would have thought
Speaker 1: they could have been owing five. We've talked about a hundreds.
Speaker 1: How about my question, what would you believe the Lions
Speaker 1: will move the ball against the Green Bay Packers? The
Speaker 1: way the Cowboys did. Remember I don't don't move it,
Speaker 1: don't Dallas office talent. But they're not. They're beatable. They're
Speaker 1: kind of a boomer Bus defense. I think you can
Speaker 1: run against them, and so it should be a good
Speaker 1: carry On Johnson game. I mean carry On Johnson. I
Speaker 1: think it's a top ten running back right now. It's
Speaker 1: tricky because there are a lot of good players, but
Speaker 1: like I would rather have carry On Johnson than Derrick Henry,
Speaker 1: for instance, he runs Carrie On. Johnson runs through contact
Speaker 1: like a true power back, and yet he's really good
Speaker 1: as a receiver. I love guys like that, and I
Speaker 1: love the way they're using him. You know, I would
Speaker 1: think this is a big week for him. The Chris
Speaker 1: Burman Primetime shows back on some capacity on an Esper
Speaker 1: under the ESPN umbrella Perfect opportunity, Wes. I know you
Speaker 1: you know some classic rock. I wouldn't say that's my
Speaker 1: special carry on my Waywards Son and three the secondary
Speaker 1: and stumbling. Doesn't Berman already use that for someone? You
Speaker 1: can bring it back. He's definitely cited that song in past. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I decidn't want to say I was done. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: your point more than Yeah, same band of dust in
Speaker 1: the wind when I watched When I watched Lions Chiefs,
Speaker 1: I didn't get the sense the Chiefs for the better team.
Speaker 1: And maybe that should have told us something about the
Speaker 1: Colts game the next week. But that said, they have
Speaker 1: to win on the road in Green Bay or else.
Speaker 1: They're two two and one. So you know these games
Speaker 1: where you give a lot of lollipops for losing, don't
Speaker 1: don't mountain too much unless you can go win a
Speaker 1: tough lollipop. All right, game, I'm just saying they're playing
Speaker 1: peak Rogers. And I don't know if this has been understated.
Speaker 1: Actually I wouldn't say he's quite there yet, but I say,
Speaker 1: as every week goes on, we're getting closer back to
Speaker 1: peak Rogers. He's physically there, we know that. And it's
Speaker 1: been fun to watch, and and it's tough. Spicy are
Speaker 1: guy the Consigliari, who is a mastermind when it comes
Speaker 1: to the vegas, the numbers, putting them all together. He
Speaker 1: has He only has two rules, and I forget one
Speaker 1: of them, but the other one is especially your best friend. Now.
Speaker 1: One of them is never pick against Aaron Rodgers. Doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: just don't pick against it. Well, that was the old
Speaker 1: Mike Francesca line. He was like, never pick against Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning at home in prime time ever, And I would
Speaker 1: say the same thing for Rogers. And that's why I'm
Speaker 1: locking up the Green Bay Packers against the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 1: because I do like the Lions, and I am on
Speaker 1: the same page as everyone here that it's good to
Speaker 1: see them be a little bit frisky so far this season.
Speaker 1: But I just think this is a this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a fun Packer season. And I do you mentioned
Speaker 1: like people are glombing onto the sidelines stuff with Rogers
Speaker 1: and and the flower I love it. It's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite parts of the game. It's like a game
Speaker 1: within the game, watching how they interact with each other,
Speaker 1: like little brother and big brother, only the little brothers
Speaker 1: the big brothers. Boss. I'm just saying, they're not going
Speaker 1: out there and scoring ten or thirteen points the offense anymore.
Speaker 1: They're they're scoring some points down, They're making progress. I
Speaker 1: also know Aaron Rodgers has a lot of pride and
Speaker 1: a lot of ego, and he's sneaky annoyed that he
Speaker 1: didn't get to throw any touchdown passes last week, and
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones got all the shine, so he's gonna be
Speaker 1: He'll be checking into play action at the goal line
Speaker 1: at least once. Uh, mark my words, against the lines.
Speaker 1: If that situation happens, he's gonna see a defensive package
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage and he's gonna be thinking
Speaker 1: at that moment, Aaron Jones got all the touchdowns last year.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check into a play just so he has.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I know it. He has six touchdown
Speaker 1: passes through five games, and you could say that Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is getting closer and closer being Aaron Rodgers again.
Speaker 1: Well he needs to have one of those five touchdown games.
Speaker 1: It just might happen on Monday night. Mark my word,
Speaker 1: watch him look at the defense and his mind in
Speaker 1: his mind calculated check into the play action. To Jimmy Graham,
Speaker 1: one yard paid hurt. I mean, you've come a long way.
Speaker 1: You've come a long way from locking up against Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers seven days ago. You got to be right, eventually,
Speaker 1: did I really both pick the Cowboys? I said to
Speaker 1: you what could go wrong? And then everything went wrong? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, Well this is going to be different. Well,
Speaker 1: Davante Adam, you know this is the thing I had
Speaker 1: to I had question Dante Adams. I do not expect
Speaker 1: him to play for a while. There's been no update.
Speaker 1: I like that Greg is our doctor Child. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just was checking Dr chow Child. That looks like
Speaker 1: a very serious injury, a multi week injury. He has
Speaker 1: not returned to practice, and there's no there's been no
Speaker 1: reason for optimism anytime soon. You know, Dan, I landed
Speaker 1: here in a hell escape for the Browns, having discovered
Speaker 1: the score upon landing. What what happens to you when
Speaker 1: we land back in l A and your lock has
Speaker 1: gone into it would only be half Ricky? Did you
Speaker 1: really just slack me? Did you lock it? He just
Speaker 1: did it like ninety four seconds ago, like three seconds
Speaker 1: before you giggled your butt off when he said uh.
Speaker 1: In my mind, that's the only part of the show
Speaker 1: that was my explanation of my lock was what I
Speaker 1: was saying. In my mind, everyone's loopy. We all got
Speaker 1: killed with the second day jet lag. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want to speak for everybody, but I feel
Speaker 1: like everybody's in the same page right now. I couldn't
Speaker 1: fall asleep the four o'clock this morning. Yeah, two and
Speaker 1: hours of sleep at night. It's good for about one
Speaker 1: or two days and then the human condition starts to
Speaker 1: all right, So there you go. Week six preview On
Speaker 1: Sunday night, we will recap all the games that we
Speaker 1: just previewed UM with the help of Burgo and the Paramore,
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back on a plane. But um,
Speaker 1: we're again, we're so excited, uh for our big live
Speaker 1: show Friday night in London. Keep an eye out on
Speaker 1: Twitter if you're we get this. This is the adjective
Speaker 1: that we're hearing a lot gutted, gutted to not be
Speaker 1: able to get tickets. We're gonna try to maybe throw
Speaker 1: out there an opportunity to get tickets individuals. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't know about this. I'm working with UM a shadowy
Speaker 1: leak figure to free up some tickets that maybe we
Speaker 1: could do a trivia. So just keep an eye work.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, we'll see if we can do. You've
Speaker 1: only slightly stressed him out with your requests or I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, just I need it? Is he here? Mark
Speaker 1: you here? But six or seven interactions where you pressed
Speaker 1: them on these tickets and pushing them for some comps.
Speaker 1: Just pretend that families were all here and we needed that. Yes,
Speaker 1: we need them anyway. And then uh, Sunday, like we said,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be at Carolina Tampa. The boys are joining me.
Speaker 1: I'll be watching that game for the podcast and the
Speaker 1: boys will be there too. So you're going, You're going
Speaker 1: to Raymond James Stadium. And where is every mother playing
Speaker 1: on the pirate ship? Um? All right, that's it, Ricky.
Speaker 1: Good job here in the hotel room. It's nice and clean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no like clothes laying around either, nice shop, having
Speaker 1: the room ready. Eric has a new favorite British television
Speaker 1: ship which we can tell from to another time. By
Speaker 1: the way, what is it Naked and Naked Dating? Naked Attraction?
Speaker 1: Checking out on YouTube? American audience, I know the UK
Speaker 1: audience is plugged in. All right, let's get out of here.
Speaker 1: This is Dan hands Is signing off for Quiet Storm,
Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Old Boss and Ricky Hollywood on the
Speaker 1: bed ah until Sunday night.