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Speaker 1: and they are looking to resolve those lawsuits. Twofold number one.

429
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Speaker 1: They're trying to appease. They're big programs that don't think

430
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: they're earning enough. You know, FSU's cry is legitimate. FSU

431
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: is looking and saying, we make you way more money

432
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: than Boston College or Waite Forest. Why are they getting

433
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 1: the same cut of the pie that we are? And

434
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: then Clemson's like, yeah, for real, us too, we feel

435
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: the same way. Lawsuit. That's that's how hard it is.

436
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: It's just that easy to follow lawsuit. So it looks

437
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: like behind the scenes there's been a lot of whaling

438
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: and gnashing of teeth there, and it looks like we're

439
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: headed towards some one of a resolution. Now, part of

440
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: it's already been put in place in the form of

441
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: success initiatives, and that just means you get rewarded monetarily

442
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: if you make the playoff, but every conference kind of

443
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: has that. The ACC also reportedly is looking to take

444
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: another step in the effort to appease the Florida States

445
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: and Clemsons of the world enough to back off with

446
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: their lawsuits, and that is with brand initiatives. And although

447
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: this has not been made clear, essentially what that would

448
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: mean is the more watched teams, you know, your Miami's,

449
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: your Clemsons, your FSUs, We're gonna bake in incentives, and

450
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna bake in a structure where the money pool

451
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: sort of funnels a little bit more towards them, which

452
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: makes sense because you're Florida States and Clemsons and Miami's

453
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: look at that and they say, well, wait a second,

454
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: if we take the money the conference will owe us

455
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: every year, and then we factor in the success initiative

456
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: because we think we'll win. And then we also factor

457
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: in the brand initiative, which means more people watch us. Therefore,

458
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna end up making more money because of that.

459
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: In the aggregate, we can almost close the gap on

460
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: the big boys. There's not a huge difference in what

461
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: Michigan will be making or what Georgia will be making

462
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: or Texas will be making compared to what we could

463
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 1: make as long as we take care of business. So

464
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: h being in the ACC's not so bad after all,

465
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: as long as that's the structure. Okay. So that's Part one.

466
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: That's the path they're going down. I think they'll get

467
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: there Part two. And I really hope this doesn't get buried.

468
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: It's worth a paper pop. It is the very last

469
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: paragraph in the ESPN piece on this story today, and

470
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 1: I quote as part of the settlement, Clemson in Florida

471
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: State are asking the ACC pay attention Kids to agree

472
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Speaker 1: to reduce penalties for exiting the grant of rights after

473
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: twenty thirty one, when TV contracts for the Big Ten

474
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: and the SEC and the Big Twelve are set to expire.

475
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: What does this mean, I'll tell you what I think

476
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: it means. What I think it means is Florida State

477
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: and Clemson and to a degree Miami have been able

478
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: to game this process enough to where in the short term,

479
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: if they win, they'll be able to make enough to

480
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: where there's not a massive gap between them and the

481
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: other halves in the bigger leagues. And in the mid

482
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: to long term they're looking to bake in an exit

483
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: door that is affordable to get out of in twenty

484
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: thirty one. And oh, by the way, the added benefit

485
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: come twenty thirty one is every other media deal is

486
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: hitting the open market, which means you're probably looking at

487
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: one more round of conference realignment. It's just not right

488
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: around the corner. It's probably a little ways down the road. Now.

489
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 1: That is a couple of different angles here. But the

490
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: third one, this is a mild concern I have for

491
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: the programs in the ACC is all that makes sense, Okay,

492
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: logic is airtight on that. If I'm flowing state and

493
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to get out of the conference, but you know,

494
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: the escape hatch wouldn't work and the slide wouldn't inflate,

495
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: and I couldn't get the exact landing spot. I want

496
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: a solid backup plan is legally go after my conference

497
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: enough to where they're willing to resolve things with me

498
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: and I can make a lot more money than I

499
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: previously was gonna make. Okay, that's good enough in the

500
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: short term, but I also want them to bake in

501
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: a more affordable and accessible exit door six years down

502
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: the road. And if they agree to that about the

503
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: time the open market goes in saying I'm in a

504
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: pretty good place, right, yeah, I would agree with that. Okay,

505
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: not a great place, but a pretty good place. Here's

506
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: my concern. Alabama has internet, Penn State has internet. They're

507
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: reading this stuff too, They're watching this with a key

508
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: and eye as well. Does anyone really think that the

509
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: bigger brands in the ACC are going to be willing

510
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: to pull this off to where they disproportionately benefit through

511
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: brand initiatives and success initiatives. And Georgia is not going

512
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: to look at that and then look at their league

513
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: office and say, why don't we have this? You really

514
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: don't think Ohio State and Michigan look at this and

515
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: don't look at their league office and say, hold up

516
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: a second, why don't we earn more than perdue? They will,

517
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: and they are. I just don't think it's being written

518
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: about yet, but common sense tells me that's coming. I've

519
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: always been uneasy about this Jamie Pollard's the ad up

520
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: at Iowa State. He said this a while back. He

521
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: was dead on the money, and he was kind of

522
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: tongue in cheek talking about how there are people at

523
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: second and third tier schools in the SEC that just

524
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: pound their chest and blindly yell SEC. And he was like,

525
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: who says you'll always be in the SEC? Who says

526
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: we're not headed for a world where there's either further

527
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: contraction or there's disproportionate revenue and income because the big

528
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: boys demand a bigger slice of the pie. And once

529
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: there that's been established in one league, I don't expect

530
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: that to be isolated to one league. And here's the problem.

531
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: If I'm Florida State, you know, let's just say, for

532
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: argument sake, these are not exact numbers, but let's just say,

533
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: for argument sake, Ohio State makes seventy five million dollars

534
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: a year. In reality, it's more. But let's say Ohio

535
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: State makes seventy five a year for being in the

536
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Big ten, and let's say a South Carolina makes seventy

537
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: five a year for being in the SEC. And I

538
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: think that if I pool all the potential money I

539
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: can earn any year, together, I can make sixty million

540
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: a year. I'm getting close. I'm not matching it, but

541
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: I'm getting close. Well, that works as long as the

542
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: status quo remains unchanged. But what if Michigan and Ohio

543
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: State upset the entire dynamic in the Big Ten? What

544
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: if Alabama and Texas and Georgia and Florida and whatnot.

545
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: What if they upset the entire dynamic in the SEC

546
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: and then they end up earning ninety five million per

547
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 1: year each while Vandy only earns fifty per year. What

548
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: if Michigan earns ninety five per year while oh I

549
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: don't know, Iowa only earns seventy per year. Does that

550
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: sound crazy? I think it sounds logical. That's the route

551
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I try and go down, you know, because the greater

552
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: good of the conference is not at the forefront anymore.

553
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: The greater good of the sport is not at the

554
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: forefront anymore. Now, once we elect me College Football Commissioner,

555
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: this will be a moot point. But I don't even

556
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: know when the election is yet. And the other thing

557
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: that I just want to point out over there in

558
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: the ACC, everyone's talking about Florida State. Everyone's talking about Clemson.

559
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about. Miami is the big beneficiary of this

560
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: new dynamic of success initiatives and brand initiatives. Hey, watch

561
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: out for Georgia Tech on this Georgia Tech is like

562
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: a viper over in the grass right now, because if

563
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: there's one program over there that could really take off

564
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: like a rocket if they ever tilt the funnel of

565
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: revenue their way a little bit. It's that team that

566
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: exists in your biggest media market. They're at the intersection

567
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: of the ACC and the SEC in Atlanta, Georgia, the

568
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: team that is continued to send little trimmers throughout the

569
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: ACC the past couple of years. Brent Key, Georgia Tech

570
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: getting their act together. About the time the league implements

571
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: a revenue distribution program that could disproportionately benefit you and

572
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 1: enrich you the more success you have. It sounds like

573
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: it benefits Florida State and Miami and Clemson more. But

574
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: you know what else it sounded like. It sounded like

575
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: when they built this league in the current format it

576
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: is that it would just be Miami versus Florida State

577
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: every year, And it hadn't been that a single time.

578
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: So things aren't always as they appear in the acc

579
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: So yes, of course this is designed to appease two

580
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: or three schools. That doesn't mean another school couldn't just

581
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: throw water on the entire computer and take advantage of

582
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: it themselves. They absolutely could. All right, let us move

583
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: on and boom two pieces of paper out of the way.

584
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: Where did I stop this one? Two? I've stopped at

585
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: three Quick Trips this week. I've done my job. You

586
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: done yours? Well, it's not your job. However. Quick Trip

587
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: is the exclusive fuel provider of this show, fueling the

588
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: whole New Saturday Tour will be out on the road

589
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: all spring. We went over twenty four thousand miles in

590
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: the whole New Saturday Tour this fall, and Quick Trip

591
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: there every step of the way. I had them count

592
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: up how many free tanks of gas that we gave

593
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: out this past year. But I really think I should

594
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: have them add up the total gallons a free gas

595
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: because that number is just going to look more impressive.

596
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: Either way, it was a lot. We appreciate them. We

597
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: appreciate them a lot. Quick Trip. I sell you on

598
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: the gas, I sell you on the food. I have

599
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: to continue selling you guys on the cold brew on

600
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: tap you know, I keep saying it and I may

601
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: just have to flat out call him on the air,

602
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: but I am telling Joe a quick trip qtj Quick trip, Joe.

603
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: We got to get one for the set. I know

604
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: you guys haven't even technically paid for it, but I

605
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: don't care. I want one for the set. That thing

606
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: would be incredible and it could replace these helmets that

607
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: Colin has to put out every week. That really don't

608
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: mean a lot to us that we just happen to

609
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: have him around the studio. So let's get on that. Yeah,

610
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: message sent, Let's get on that all right. We have

611
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: been doing a number of things, but among them, we've

612
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: been grading teams on this past year's performance, and it's

613
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: very relative to what your expectation was. So the grade

614
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: for Georgia in the twenty twenty four season has to

615
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: be conditional. You got to understand what the preseason expectation was.

616
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: The precison expectation for most people for Georgia was go

617
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: win the National Championship. They were right up there as

618
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: the favorites to win it all and then they body

619
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: bagged Clemson in Week one, so then the hype just

620
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: shot through the roof. So remember that was the expectation

621
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: from the college football public on this show. We didn't

622
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: even think they'd make the SEC championship game. We thought

623
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: they'd lose two games in the regular season. I didn't

624
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: think it would be a vintage Kirby team. Thought there

625
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: were several holes on his team. Now that ended up

626
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: being true, but the SEC was also down, so Georgia

627
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: still made the conference title game. They won the conference

628
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: title game, so they were clearly down a notch, and

629
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: we're still the best team in the conference. I give

630
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: Georgia a B plus for this past year. Do you agree?

631
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: First off, based on your own expectation. I don't use

632
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: whatever criteria you want. It's not like it's an official game.

633
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: We don't have official rules here. But I'd give Georgia

634
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: about a B plus for twenty twenty four. Georgia gets

635
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: punished for being Georgia. I mean, if we're really serious

636
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: with ourselves, we have something called the consequences of success.

637
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: Georgia gets punished a lot just for being Georgia. I

638
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: mean the consequences of success are when you have done

639
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: what they've done, when you've been a double digit winner

640
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: every year, when you won a couple of national championships.

641
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: When you're the preseason favorite to do this and do that,

642
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: you know you only win the SEC title game, but

643
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: you don't go win at all, people think you're a failure.

644
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: I can prove that. Watch this. So the proof is.

645
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: Think to yourself right now, just snap judgment. How do

646
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: you think Georgia did this past year. I think a

647
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: lot of you are saying, not so good man. Georgia

648
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: was down this past year. Exactly. You're punishing them for

649
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: being Georgia because they won the SEC. Do you understand

650
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about the literal SEC champion. They were top

651
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: five in the playoff rankings. Again, that makes seven of

652
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: the last eight years they finished there. They locked down

653
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: a first round by they had four wins versus teams

654
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: that made the playoffs, They lost their starting quarterback and

655
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: came back to win the conference title game. And that's

656
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: a down year. And you know what, You're not exactly wrong.

657
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: It is kind of a down year by their standard,

658
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: but that's just a consequence of success. That's why I

659
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: still give them a B plus because it's insane that

660
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: they've even put themselves in that kind of rarefied air.

661
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: Having said that though they have. So you've got the

662
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: Georgia's standard, you've got the Georgia way of doing things.

663
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: Not unfair to expect that every year from them. I

664
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: don't think they fight it. I don't think they run

665
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: from it. But it is a glaring stat like we

666
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: write it down every now and then, let's paper pop

667
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: on this Georgia football running the ball, the Georgia running game.

668
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: Whatever the floor was that I thought existed there, they

669
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: finished beneath it this year. I never thought i'd see

670
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart, the head coach at Georgia, and them finish

671
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 1: outside the top one hundred in rushing yards per game,

672
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: and they did this year. That's the worst number this century.

673
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: In fact, we went back to nineteen ninety six and

674
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: that's as far back as we could go on the computer.

675
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: That's the worst they've ever finished there. Offensive line had

676
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: chronic issues, running back had chronic issues. They didn't have

677
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: an elite wide receiver on the team. Again, they led

678
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: FBS in drops. It was a totally undependable unit for them.

679
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: They had to end up being quarterback centric and therefore

680
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: Carson Beck ended up being pretty erratic in terms of

681
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: his performance level and they still won the SEC. So

682
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: normal programs when they have that litany of issues, quote unquote,

683
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: you win seven games and then everyone's on the hot

684
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: seat the next year. Kirby just won the SEC anyway,

685
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: and you can say the rest of the conference was down.

686
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want to. Yeah, someone still

687
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: had to win it, and they won it, So hats

688
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: off to them. It's a B plus because people just

689
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: expect more. They expect more. I expect more. But you

690
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: legit have to wonder how good they'll be this upcoming year.

691
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: Their home schedule. If you're a season ticket holder at Georgia,

692
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: what a year for you coming up? They got Bama,

693
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: they got Texas, and they got Old Miss at home.

694
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: It's another tough schedule. The SEC just screwed themselves on

695
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: the way they formatted their schedule this upcoming year. I'll

696
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: talk about that later, but it's fair man to wonder

697
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: how good they'll be this upcoming year. That's really not

698
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: what the segment's about. But you know, first world questions

699
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: they may be. But George's got some questions this upcome year.

700
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: Everyone does. I know that's relative, but some serious questions,

701
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: some serious questions. They'll be up there favor to win

702
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: most every game they play. They'll be one of the

703
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: favorites to win the SEC, They'll be one of the

704
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: favorites to win it all. But that's because of brand name,

705
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: that's because of built in benefit of the doubt that

706
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: is going to be given to you and should be

707
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: given to you, because you've proven yourself, You've got a

708
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: track record, you're very well established. Having said that, though,

709
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: that's going to be a team that really really has

710
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: to come together, really got to come together, which is

711
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: the most fun part of watching college football because like

712
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: twenty five or thirty percent of your roster flips over

713
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: every year, even pre portal it does that. So it's fun,

714
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: but it can also be nerve wracking. Let's move on, Colin.

715
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: Did we get that question about Notre Dame in the show? Yeah?

716
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: We did, Okay, I wanted to address this. Let me

717
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: take a little swig of water right quick. Hey, got

718
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: calloweh bluff on the show. Okay, I did not know

719
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: there's an Auburn in Indiana. I'm sure it's beautiful this

720
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: time of year. Sean from Auburn, Indiana hit us up

721
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: and he said Notre Dame losing their GM to USC

722
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: feels like a huge blow to a team that was

723
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: so close to winning it all. What are your feelings

724
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: on this? So if you miss this, Chad Bowden was

725
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: the general manager at Notre Dame and he has taken

726
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: a job big time higher for USC, a huge paymomp,

727
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: and my thoughts on it are as follows. I'm gonna

728
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: be as respectful as possible. This is not the death

729
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: blow it's being presented as I've seen some people really

730
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: freak out about this. It's not that big a deal.

731
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: It's no disrespect to Chad. I don't know him. I've

732
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: never met him to my knowledge before. He's done great

733
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: things there. I assume we'll go do great things at

734
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: Southern California. But trust me, they'll be okay at Notre Dame.

735
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: And I think there is even a world where they

736
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: upgrade the position. Again, I know that sounds disrespectful. I'm

737
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: not saying that. I'm just saying I don't think there's

738
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: a firm understanding out there in the general college football

739
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: public or even the media about what the general manager

740
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: position is because it's so new in concept and it's

741
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: so different program to program. You got some places where

742
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a glorified hype man. And you got

743
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: some places where the dude's actually building and constructing the roster,

744
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: and then you got some places where, yes, you've got

745
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: a figurehead general manager, but the roles are really fractured

746
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: and distributed throughout the organization, and you don't know which

747
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: is which is the point. So you just assume everybody,

748
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: every general manager is the same. Well they're not. They're

749
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: not that. And so Marcus Freeman, you know, observing him

750
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: like I have, he probably going to go out there

751
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: and upgrade the position. They just lost Golden back to

752
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: the NFL, I believe, And he went and hired Chris

753
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: ash It's just a phenomenal hire. Like their coaching staff

754
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: is remaining at an extremely high level. But organizationally, I

755
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: think I could go find someone to put in that position.

756
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: I know Blanchard has been rumored to be the guy

757
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: from Texas Tech. They have not closed that to my knowledge,

758
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: at least they have not closed that. But you know,

759
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: what's so important there, what's so important? There's the logo

760
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: on your chest. You know, you hear this a lot.

761
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: You hear guys that start to inflate their profile or

762
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: enhance their profile. You'll get a guy who becomes a

763
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: rock star in college football and he's worked at a

764
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,479
Speaker 1: major program. In this case, it could be Notre Dame

765
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: and you lose him and you think, man, what are

766
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: we going to do without him? You're going to do

767
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: exactly what you've been doing, because what you don't realize is, yes,

768
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: yes people make programs, and yes, the right people can

769
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: greatly enhance your program. But I'm going to tell you

770
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: what else happens. The right logo on your polo can

771
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: greatly enhance you. And so when you walk out the door.

772
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's the great measure of how effective you really

773
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: are is you walk out of a major program, do

774
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: you keep producing the same results you did when you

775
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: were there. I watched it happen in the South a

776
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: long time, watching Saban lose personnel guys, and it just

777
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: maintained his status as the number one program in America

778
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: and coaches steadily coming and going every single year. It's

779
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: just a revolving door, and you're like every single off

780
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: season dirty word there. The fan base would get amnees.

781
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: You hit lose a coordinator or a couple of coordinators,

782
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: or half his positioned coaches and then say all, we're screwed. Now,

783
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: Actually you're not, because the script day is still on

784
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: your chest and it's still being run by Nick Saban,

785
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: So you're fine. So a Notre Dame. The reason I

786
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: bring that up is not necessarily to compare Freeman to

787
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: sab and that's not fair. But in a way, I'm

788
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: telling you, the structural integrity of that program is such

789
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: that I don't worry about Marcus Freeman losing guys. I

790
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: especially don't worry about Marcus Freeman losing guys at the

791
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: general manager position when I know there are some equally

792
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: if not more qualified candidates out there that would probably

793
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: bear crawl over broken glass to get to South Bend,

794
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: Indiana and take that job. You put that close relief,

795
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: You put that ND on your lapel right now, and

796
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: you walk into a high school, or you walk on

797
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: any kind of campus, You walk in a room, and

798
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: folks know what it means. You're Marcus Freeman's general manager. That

799
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: means a lot a lot of guys I think would

800
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: want that job. Right now now, I will tell you this,

801
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: don't overlook this culture is as important at Notre Dame,

802
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: and fit is as important at Notre Dame as it

803
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: is anywhere. I would encourage you to go over to

804
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: Irish Illustrated. Tim Prister did a really good job I

805
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: think summarizing this today and I agree wholeheartedly with him.

806
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: The struggle and maybe it's not a struggle, maybe it's

807
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: just a challenge. The challenge from Marcus Freeman is they

808
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: have built probably the best culture in college football right now.

809
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm around a lot of programs and I

810
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: cannot explain to you in strong enough terms how tight

811
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: knit and close together in synergy fueled this team was

812
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: this past year. It's just a product of culture. It's

813
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: just amazing they went as far as they did, and

814
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: a lot of places give it lip service. I know

815
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm around a lot of them. Notre Dame gives it

816
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: far more than lip service. They're all in on that.

817
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: Just they're over the cliff, facing the fan, every single

818
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: metaphor you could use. And therein lies the challenge because

819
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: that's special and most guys don't fit that. Most people

820
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: don't fit that. When you've got an extremely strong culture,

821
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: it's rare. Therefore the right fit for that culture is

822
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: also going to be rare. I don't care if you're

823
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: hiring a general manager, I don't care if you're hiring

824
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: someone to maintain the front desk for you. Finding the

825
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: right people is an integral part of maintaining a rock

826
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: solid culture, and that is his challenge, filling the general

827
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: manager spot or hiring Chris ash as his defensive coordinator.

828
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: Fit culture fits. Everybody emphasizes it. Most people are willing

829
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: to cut corners on it. I don't think he is.

830
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: The question as always, is there a fit out there

831
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: in this particular hiring cycle. Next up. I can't believe

832
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: this is a real segment that we're going to have

833
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: on the show, but it is now. As you know,

834
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: hold on, put on some lip bomb. Cam Newton said

835
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: some stuff today. I could not ignore it. This is

836
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: a college football show. I am going to wrap this

837
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: into college football. We don't ever talk about the NFL.

838
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: Cam Newton obviously played college, played in the NFL covers

839
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: NFL majority for ESPN. But he said something this morning

840
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: that a lot of you pointed out to me. So

841
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: I went and watched it. I listened to it. I

842
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: nearly puked. So I'm going to play the audio for you.

843
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: This is from I believe first take earlier this morning

844
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: over on ESPN, they're talking about MVP versus winning a

845
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: super Bowl or in our world, you know you can

846
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: make that akin to winning the Heisman or winning a

847
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: national championship. But they're talking about individual accolades over team awards,

848
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: and is which and which is worth more? And we're

849
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: going to play the whole thing for you because I

850
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: do not want to be accused of taking this out

851
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: of context, because I promise you what I'm about to

852
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: play you. I understand there is not a principle here

853
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: that's lost on me, which I was told earlier today.

854
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: Oh you just don't get what he's saying. I perfectly

855
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: get what he's saying. I promise you. I just can't

856
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: stand it. Roll it, Colin.

857
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: What's more important? Impact or championships? You look at a

858
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: guy like Alan iverson the words you you stood up

859
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: on the table and blah blah blah blah blah. Everybody's

860
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: not gonna be Michael Jordan. Everybody's not going to be

861
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. Everybody's not going to be these individuals who

862
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: have the luxury of saying, hey, I not only dominated

863
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: this sport, but I also have championships to back it like,

864
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 2: let me remind you, Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl,

865
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Respectfully, Nick Foles won

866
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl.

867
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: So yes, when.

868
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: You look at those guys and you say, okay, what's more,

869
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: would you have preferred to win a Super Bowl? I

870
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: think that that's the humble approach. But if we're being honest,

871
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: the impact of you holding yourself accountable to say everybody

872
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 2: has a responsibility to do and you could say, as

873
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: an MVP Award winner or All American, you've hailed yourself

874
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: or you've held your end of the bargain down. And

875
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: that's what it really comes down to for me. I

876
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: know that's not the popular pick. I'm trying to be popularized,

877
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: but my take is I'm taking individual success because I

878
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: did my job. Football is not about one guy trying

879
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: to do eleven jobs. It's eleven guys doing one job.

880
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: And if everybody does their job, best famous words of

881
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 2: our coach Belichick, just do your job.

882
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: Thoughts, opinions, comments out there. So that was in response

883
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: to Steven Smith asking him on air live, would you

884
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 1: give up your League MVP Award if you could trade

885
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: it in for a Super Bowl and you could tell

886
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: steven A and everyone at the desk just thought, oh,

887
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: that's a cookie cutter question. We know we're gonna get

888
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: yes to that. And Cam said no, and all their

889
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: jaws hit the ground, like, hold up, now you're telling

890
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: us you won the League MVP. You never won a

891
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You're telling me you would not trade that

892
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: League MVP award for a Super Bowl. He said no,

893
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I want the individual award over the team award.

894
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: So first bit of feedback I got because I hated it.

895
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: So the first bit of feedback I got was, Wow,

896
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: you just don't get what he's saying. Guys, all due respect,

897
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: I get what he's saying. This is not a situation

898
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: where the words were just too big and the topic

899
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: was just too complex. I get what he's saying. And

900
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: I do give him full credit because there are a

901
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: lot of other people out there who think that way

902
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: that would never admit it on air. So I want

903
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: to begin. Let me be very clear. I give Cam

904
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,959
Speaker 1: Newton a ton of credit. I give Cam Newton, in fact,

905
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: maybe not infinite amounts. I give Cam Newton a lot

906
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: of credit. He feels that way, and he's willing to

907
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: say it. A lot of other guys feel that way too,

908
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: they just would never say it publicly. So everyone's free

909
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: to feel how they want to feel. I guess there's

910
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: no technical right or wrong here, but I think circling

911
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: back to college football, I talked to a number of

912
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: coaches who saw me tweet that out today and I said, man, you,

913
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: I'm playing that from my whole team today, and I'm

914
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: asking my guys. I'm not telling them how to think.

915
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm asking them, which one are you? Which one are you?

916
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: Because all due respect, man, if you're falling down that

917
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: rabbit hole, if you're chasing the individual awards and you're

918
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: using the cop out excuse of hey, it's okay if

919
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: I chase individual glory because if I win, that means

920
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: I played at a high level, and that means I

921
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: put my team in the best position to win. It's

922
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: always a cop out. I get the logic behind it,

923
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: but see, it's always a cop out because there are

924
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: some guys out there who are not Cam Newton. In fact,

925
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: every human eye I've ever encountered walking the planet's not

926
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, cause he's one of one. So you know,

927
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: Cam Newton to his credit, could afford to think that

928
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: way and still puts you in position to win a

929
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: national championship, or still puts you in position to win

930
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. Most guys aren't that. Most guys, as

931
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: he said, are not capable of ever performing at a

932
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: level where you're going to win individual accolades. That is

933
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: where team mentality comes into play. Team mentality or culture,

934
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: if you want to call it that, that's what ultimately

935
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: determines how far you can go as a collective. I

936
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know how many people who are

937
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: listening to or watching the show have played team sports.

938
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: I think most of you have. You do not have

939
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: to have played in the NFL. You do not have

940
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: to have played for a Super Bowl to understand how

941
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: sweet it is when collectively a group of people sacrifice

942
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: individual glory for the greater good of the team and

943
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: you accomplish what you set out to accomplish. It's the

944
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: most fulfilling, satisfying feeling that you could ever imagine. Most

945
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: people don't ever get to experience. But if you've ever

946
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: been on a team where you could truly tell that

947
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: chemistry that you long for is here in this room.

948
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame almost did it. I was around Notre Dame.

949
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: Ohio State had this same thing this year. You've got

950
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who are individually extremely talented, and

951
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: yet no one seemingly is chasing the individual award. Notre

952
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Dame same way, a little different team dynamic there. You

953
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: didn't have as many individual stars, but everyone's all in

954
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: for the team, and Ohio State ended up accomplishing what

955
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: they set out to accomplish. I promise you, you walk

956
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: around that locker room, you go ask Caleb Downs, or

957
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: go ask Will Howard, and would you, guys, if you

958
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: could have won the Heisman this year, would you trade

959
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: this feeling for that Heisman? I know, I promise you

960
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: those guys are saying no. I think if you've won

961
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: the Individual Award but you never won the Ultimate Team Award,

962
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense that you're gonna answer that way.

963
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: Of course, he's not going to sit there on live TV,

964
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: as it turns out, and say, yeah, kind of consider

965
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: my career incomplete because I didn't win a super Bowl,

966
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: but I got this league MVP. Yeah, I trade this

967
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: league MVP for a super Bowl. I mean, it's probably

968
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: not the best personal branding but I think about that

969
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: sound against the backdrop of what it takes to win

970
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 1: because I don't watch football for individuals. I may watch

971
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: tennis for that, not doubles. Of course, I may watch

972
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: golf and focus on individuals. But ultimately this thing exists

973
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: the way it does because people are fascinated with the

974
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: entertainment based product of team sports. In football, the ultimate

975
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: team sport is not something I watch and pay attention

976
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: to for individual accolades. Now, I don't play the fantasy

977
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: sports game, so maybe that's part of it, but I

978
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: couldn't care less who wins league MVP. I don't even

979
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: pay all that much attention to the Heisman, although I

980
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: pay that a lot more attention than I do league

981
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: MVPs at the next level, but I care about which

982
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: teams are going to win at all. You care which

983
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: teams are going to win it all, and therefore I

984
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: care about the dynamic in the locker room. I care

985
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: about team dynamic. I don't care who individually is surging

986
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, but especially if I'm

987
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: running an organization, or I'm coaching, or I'm in a

988
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: locker room I'm playing. I'm just the left guard here.

989
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: At Temple. I want to look around my locker room

990
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: and no other guys are bought in for the greater

991
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: good of this collective. Like, that's what I want to know,

992
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: and I'm always thankful. I would always be thankful. If

993
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: someone vocalized what Cam Newton just did, I'd be very

994
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: thankful about it. I'd appreciate it. I've got no ill

995
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: will towards him. I just don't want it in my

996
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: locker room. You got to have all kinds. I know this.

997
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm not ignorant to this. I know you got to

998
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: have all kinds to win a title. And sometimes you

999
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: do have some of that that seeps into your locker room.

1000
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: But you know, the overall culture is such that it

1001
00:52:55,120 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: doesn't really fracture anything. But to know that you got

1002
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,479
Speaker 1: folks out there that value the individual over the team,

1003
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: over the collective, that's okay. Just just find it out.

1004
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: That's the secret. That's the trick. Find it out. If

1005
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: I were recruiting, if I were out on the trail,

1006
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: everyone's recruiting right now. It's why you can't get in

1007
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: hold of anyone. Everyone's out recruiting right now. I'd want

1008
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: to know. I'd be talking to high school kids. I'd

1009
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: be talking to portal kids. Listen to this. Let me

1010
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: know what you think about this, because I had a

1011
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: bunch of people hit me today. I had a ton,

1012
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: like hundreds of people replied to me, and they said, dude,

1013
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: think about this though. I mean, would you rather be

1014
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: cam or would you rather be Trent Dilfer. Would you

1015
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: rather have won the league MVP, which means you were

1016
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: the best player in the best league in the world,

1017
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: or would you rather be you know, the tenth or

1018
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: fifteenth or twentieth best player who just happens to win

1019
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. I said, I'd much rather win the

1020
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: super Bowl because that's the ultimate goal here in team sports,

1021
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: is to accomplish something as a team. So I have

1022
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: a bunch of folks hit me back and say, oh,

1023
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: that's so cute. Number one, you're lying because you'll never

1024
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: be in that position. But number two, think about how

1025
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: much more money you make in your career and after

1026
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: your career. If you're a league MVP, that means you're

1027
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: being paid top dollar, and then that means you're very

1028
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: marketable afterwards. And all this is true. I'm not an idiot.

1029
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: I know that. I will tell you this, my answer

1030
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: remains the same. And also, I mean, look to be

1031
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: honest with you, just putting all the cards on the table.

1032
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: If I'm good enough to be a starting quarterback in

1033
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: the NFL, I don't care if I'm dil for or

1034
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: Brad Johnson mccam Newton. I'm gonna have a very successful

1035
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: career post football. It's gonna be very lucrative. I can

1036
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: generate individual wealth for myself. I don't need to win

1037
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: a league MVP when I'm playing football or baseball or soccer.

1038
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm in it to win the Ultimate Team Award, and

1039
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: anything individually that I accrue comes in conjunction with that,

1040
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: not the other way around. And then afterwards, I don't

1041
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 1: care if I'm Brad Johnson or Cam Newton. I'm gonna

1042
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: make away from myself post football. I'll be okay there.

1043
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: You know. I don't plan and on taking a cardboard

1044
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: box out of the facility when I retire and that

1045
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: being my home for the rest of my days. So

1046
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: I think I'll be okay on that front. And then

1047
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: the other one was, oh man, come on, now, everyone's

1048
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: been fooled into rings culture. Rings culture is not as

1049
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: you're presenting it. For those unfamiliar. Rings culture is this sickness,

1050
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: and it is a sickness that has enveloped the sporting

1051
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: world where individuals are solely judged on how many championships

1052
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: they won. I e. Dan Marino can't be one of

1053
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks of all time because they never won

1054
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. Well, I don't traffic in rings culture.

1055
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: I talk about that on this show all the time.

1056
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: In college football right now, it's an epidemic. People look

1057
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: at Landing, what does he won? What does he won?

1058
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: Because if you haven't literally won a national title, you

1059
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: haven't won anything. We have got now three active head

1060
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: coaches in college football who have won national championships. Three

1061
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: out of one hundred and thirty four active head coaches,

1062
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: three of them have won titles. Apparently no one else

1063
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: has won anything. It's ludicrous, it's ignorant. I'm not trafficking

1064
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: in that. I'm not doing that at all. But what

1065
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 1: I am saying is, especially at the NFL level, that's

1066
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: what everyone's playing for. Man, wake Forest is not winning

1067
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: a national championship in college The Buffalo Bills and the

1068
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: LA Chargers and the Seattle Seahawks, they're all competing for

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00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: the same thing. There's thirty two of them, right, or

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Speaker 1: thirty of them? What do we got, Jesse, thirty or

1071
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: thirty two NFL teams? Thirty two NFL teams. They're all

1072
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: competing for the same prize because that's the way that

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00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: league is structured. So yeah, that's how I'm gonna judge teams.

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Speaker 1: That's How'm gonna just franchisees or just franchise which is

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00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: the plural of franchise, Speaking of which, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is the absolute last time we're talking about the NFL

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Speaker 1: in the show. This week. The super Bowl is coming up.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard. The super Bowl is

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Speaker 1: coming up. I apologize to our friends in Buffalo. I

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Speaker 1: wanted it to happen, but it didn't happen again. So

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00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: as a city, it's like Forrest Gump going to the

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Speaker 1: White House again, but you get congrats. You guys are

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Speaker 1: headed there. At Philly, you guys are headed there. I

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00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: do have rooting interest in this game, but that's none

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Speaker 1: of anyone else's business here. But what I do want

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Speaker 1: you to know is if you're looking for tickets, you're

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Speaker 1: any economy, much less this one. Peate State two to

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Speaker 1: sign up for anything. You don't have to sign up

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Speaker 1: apatche Junction, Arizona, and Fort Myers, Florida. Let's continue. We've

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Speaker 1: got more actual college football to discuss. The audacity. The audacity.

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00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: This ought to be fun and not controversial at all.

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00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: What would you say Miami's grade was this past season?

1107
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: Expectation result? What was your grade on them. This takes

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00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: some nuance, which is always in short supply when we're

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00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: talking about Miami on the show. Understand where they've been.

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Speaker 1: That's the first thing you have to do. But then

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00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: you also have to factor in what the expectation level

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00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: was this past year, what the opportunity was. You landed

1113
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: cam Ward, had number one offense in the country, workable schedule,

1114
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: and yeah, you won ten games, but you ultimately didn't

1115
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: even play for the conference championship because your defense couldn't

1116
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: stop molasses in December or Syracuse. So I give them

1117
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: a B minus, nothing more and nothing less. Here are

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00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: my reasons. There's a lot of good here. Don't listen

1119
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: to the haters. There is a lot of good. They

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00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: continued their ascension. So they've gone five wins to seven

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00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: wins to now ten wins. Just because they fell short

1122
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: of someone's expectation, including mine, that doesn't mean it's a

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Speaker 1: total failure. Like they still headed upward, so that's good.

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00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: They went ten to two in the regular season. That's

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00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: only the second time since three that this program's won

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00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: ten games. So this is not like Georgia only winning

1127
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: ten games. This is a big deal from Miami, I

1128
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: don't take anything away from them on that front, had

1129
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: the number one scoring offense in college football. That's exactly

1130
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: what you brought in Shannon Dawson to do. That's exactly

1131
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: what you went and got cam Ward out of the

1132
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: portal to do everything win as good as it could

1133
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: possibly go on that front. They cemented their status in

1134
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: that sense as sort of a portal destination for quarterback

1135
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: because there were a lot of guys Carson Beck including

1136
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: who watched that happen and said, well, maybe I want

1137
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: to go and hop on that conveyor belt there. Now,

1138
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: in a perfect world, you recruit your own guy and

1139
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: you develop him and he's there multiple years. But in

1140
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: the interim, it's not a bad approach to have. There's

1141
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: not a cam Ward out there every year, but you

1142
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: can go get the next best thing. So those are

1143
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: some good things that happened. Here was the problem. Here's

1144
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: why it's only a B minus. Even though Miami won

1145
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: ten games, which is crazy to say out loud, the

1146
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: roster plus the schedule, it just demanded more because you

1147
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: went and got cam Ward. So when you do that, man,

1148
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: you're all in that program knew it. The personnel, the

1149
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: coaching staff. They knew that. And you had no Clemson

1150
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: on your regular season schedule, You had no Smuch turned

1151
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: out to be a quality opponent on your regular season schedule.

1152
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: FSU's way down Florida. You played them at the perfect

1153
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: time because you played them in Week one, so they

1154
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: were still way down. They hadn't hit their groove yet.

1155
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: Just no excuse for Miami not to be playing for

1156
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: a conference championship last year. And yet they go against

1157
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech and they get a stay of execution and

1158
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: then they go out to Cal and they're down big,

1159
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: but they come from behind and win. And I remember

1160
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: vividly on this show, we're asking ourselves, all right, did

1161
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: they learn the lessons or are they gonna have to

1162
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: lose games? And as it turned out, they had to

1163
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: lose games. They went to Georgia Tech and lost, and

1164
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: then they lost at Syracuse after blowing up three score lead.

1165
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: The bowl game. Was the Bowl game, tirely different dynamic there.

1166
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: But the two losses in their last three regular season games,

1167
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: it hurt. It hurt. That's a B minus effort I

1168
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: think from Miami collectively this year. Now as it relates

1169
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: to this upcoming year, Corey Heatherman has to work out.

1170
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: That's their new defensive coordinator. Higher. I mean, they flushed

1171
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: the program defensively. They had to. They had to. That

1172
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: was a no brainer. I think everyone knew that was coming.

1173
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: Several weeks before the season ended. I think most people

1174
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: knew that was coming. So Heatherman comes in there from Minnesota,

1175
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: and that's gotten a lot of headlines. Don't overlook Zach Ethris.

1176
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: They just hired him as DB's coach. Zach Ethridge is

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01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: a very very important addition to this program coming there

1178
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 1: from Houston. It was an auburn, of course. I'd say,

1179
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: of course, I assume people know that they could pretty

1180
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: drastically improve defensively this upcoming year. Now they're gonna have

1181
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: to because I would not expect them to have the

1182
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: number one offense in the country again. But I'll tell

1183
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: you there's a world where you know that total offensive

1184
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: statistic drops down a few runs, but the collective output

1185
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: of the team is much better because defensively, it can't

1186
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: get worse. It can't. There's no excuse for it. Too.

1187
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: They got good players down there. They got good players

1188
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: they've recruited. They got good players out of the portal,

1189
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: they got good folks in the building. Miami's I say,

1190
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: they've got to be better. And on one hand, you

1191
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: could look at that and you could say, dude, settle down.

1192
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: Miami's not vintage Miami anymore. You talk about them like

1193
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Speaker 1: their Ohio State or Alabama or Texas or something. That's

1194
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Speaker 1: cause I think they should be that. You got to

1195
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: understand when I grew up, this was a superpower. Oh well,

1196
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up in the eighties, but like the

1197
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Speaker 1: second version of that, some portions of the nineties, early

1198
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: two thousands. I think of Miami and I get an

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Speaker 1: image in my mind. They may have torn down the

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Speaker 1: Orange Bowl, but I still get that old school image

1201
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: in my mind. And I don't think the dynamics of

1202
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: college football have changed in such a way that that

1203
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: team right there and that program shouldn't still be dominant.

1204
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: They just haven't been, but they've gotten closer to the

1205
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: last three years. So then moving forward, you're gonna have

1206
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,959
Speaker 1: a lot of churn every year in this sport. That's

1207
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: the way they've recruited down there is they've gone scorched

1208
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Speaker 1: earth every way they possibly can in talent acquisition, and

1209
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Speaker 1: you don't go get one guy in a position room,

1210
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Speaker 1: you go get three of them if you can. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: one of them will work out and you may open

1212
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Speaker 1: the door and say see you later to the other two.

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Speaker 1: It's cutthroat. It's a lot more bare knuckles than talent

1214
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: acquisition used to be in college athletics. But at Miami

1215
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Speaker 1: they can afford to do it in every sense of

1216
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Speaker 1: the word. They can afford to do it. So I

1217
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: have very high expectations for that program. So yeah, I

1218
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: expect them to be at that level. I expect them

1219
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: to be a contender for the playoff every year, and

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Speaker 1: if they're not in it, then something's gone wrong as

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01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned. Do we have Jesse just off

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Speaker 1: We'll do a segment on that Sunday. I know we

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Speaker 1: kind of had it in the Rundown tonight where we

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Speaker 1: to leave you with tonight, college football is gonna have Well,

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Speaker 1: there you go, Chris asked the question. Chris from Bisbee, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I know it's early, but as you always said, there's

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Speaker 1: no off season. Which teams are the biggest missed you

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Speaker 1: for the upcoming season? Thank you, Chris. Florida Florida's a

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Speaker 1: mystery team to me. Carryover is very overrated from bowl season, Like, yes,

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Speaker 1: Florida end of the season red hot, Florida end of

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01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: the season very hot. And then you go into bowl

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Speaker 1: season and they win their bowl game, and you always

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01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: get this mindless chatter about momentum and it carrying over

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01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: and it's all bs. That doesn't happen. Dynamics can carry over.

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Speaker 1: So if you finish the season strong, and I'm counting

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01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: on you starting the next season strong, it's not some magical,

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01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: like mythical momentum that you bottle up from your bowl game.

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01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: It's are the same dynamics in place? So DJ Lagway

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Speaker 1: is he still going to be your quarterback? Yeah? Okay,

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01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: that's something tangible defensively, did you make the right staff

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01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: moves and are you bringing critical pieces back, because I

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01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: mean they fared very well against Ole Miss and LSU

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Speaker 1: down the stretch. I think the answer is yes, there

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Speaker 1: those are some dynamics that I can count on transferring

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01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: from what season to the next. But also here's why

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01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: it's a mystery, because Florida is a bona fide playoff

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01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: caliber team in many other circumstances. But they've got the

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01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: schedule thing to deal with again this year. And it's

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01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: a joke. It's a complete crime against college football. The

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01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: disparity and strength of schedule that we have team to team,

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01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: even within conferences, is just a joke. There's no excuse

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Speaker 1: for this to be like this. You know, we were looking,

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Speaker 1: we were looking at the fan duel odds to win

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01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: the whole thing. This upcoming year, Florida plays eight of

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01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: the top twenty one teams in the FANDUL odds to

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01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: win the national title. Next year, they play LSU, they

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01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: play Miami. They got Texas and Texas A and m

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01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 1: They played Georgia, they got Old Miss, they got Tennessee,

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01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: they got Florida State. They also got USF there just

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01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: for good measure, one of the better G five teams

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Speaker 1: out there. How's that allowed to happen two years in

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Speaker 1: a row. Now, Florida's just gotten bent over by the

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01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: SEC schedule makers. And it's because they did this thing

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Speaker 1: where they set the league schedule for twenty twenty three,

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01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: and all they did is inverted for twenty twenty four,

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01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: Like if you were there, you're going to play in

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01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: their home building the next year. But by and large

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01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: the league schedule remained the same. And it's a joke.

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01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: You look at the disparity in the strength of Florida

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01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: schedule versus like Tennessee schedule night and day. Now, it's

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01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: totally random. I'm not saying anyone had it out for Florida.

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01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: Maybe they did, I don't know that to be true.

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01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be that way. So, I mean, Florida's got

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Speaker 1: I think the fifteenth or sixteenth odds to win the

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01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: whole thing. They're over underwent total six and a half,

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01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: totally detached for obvious reasons. Colorado's another mystery team. Colorado.

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01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: I'll give Diana a ton of credit. He took over

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01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: that program. They went from one to eleven to four

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01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 1: and eight to nine and four. If he doesn't accomplish

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01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: anything else there that's ultra impressive. We're looking ahead. So

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01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: there's no Chador, there's no Travis Hunter. This is sort

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01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: of Chapter two beginning for me, even though it's year three.

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: I look at it as chapter two beginning because it's

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01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: sort of the post initial wave that he brought in there.

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01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: They're going to the NFL, and a lot of folks

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01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: didn't believe he'd be there three years in, and now

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01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: you've got Caden Salter and Juju Lewis kind of playing

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01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,879
Speaker 1: it out at quarterback for the spring, and on paper,

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01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: this stuff, the talent looks to dip a little bit.

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01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: But one thing I've learned about Deon and Colorado is

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01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: they're not playing on paper out there. So I am

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01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: not I am not going to be the guy with

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01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: the microphone in which we discount the potential. I don't

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01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 1: do that for any Big twelve team. Anything can happen

1343
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve. But it is a great mystery

1344
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: to me what kind of product we're going to see

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01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: on the field out there in Colorado. Almost drop my paper.

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01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: Indiana is another one. I think it's pretty natural, you know,

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01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty natal to be curious about what

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01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: the second act is going to be for Kurt Signetti

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01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: and everybody the entire program. They're in Indiana. They finished

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01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: as a playoff team this past year, and not only that,

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01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: a deserved playoff team. It'd be one thing if they

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01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: backed their way in which many people view them as

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01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: having done. But they deserved it, they earned it. They

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01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: handled business against a workable schedule. So in the end,

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Speaker 1: you know, mid season, latter part of the season, I

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01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: found myself saying, if Indiana gets in this playoff, I

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: think it'll be sort of a shame. But I ended

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01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: up not feeling that way, not because I ever had

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01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 1: anything against Indiana. I just thought the strength of schedule

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01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 1: may not warrant them getting in. But in the end

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01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: I believed, all things considered, they did deserve to be

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01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: in the playoff. Okay, well, how do you follow it up?

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01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: And the way they followed it up is a really

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: good portal haul. Again, now, what we've learned about the

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01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: portal is there is a lot of randomness to that

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01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: when that's how you're going about putting together a lot

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01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: of your team. The Florida State example, is going to

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01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: be the one that everyone throws in your face. But

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01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what else matters. Your process matters, and

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01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: if you've got to proven process, which I think they

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01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: do not in terms of him having been there nine

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01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: years and it playing out, But I think he's got

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01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: a process that will pay off more years than not.

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01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: It's just early, so it hasn't been proven. If that's

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01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: the case, I think Indiana strikes me as the kind

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01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: of place where the portal roulette wheel is not as

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01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: prone to biting them as badly as it did Florida

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01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: State this past year. I hope that made sense. That

1379
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: was jumbled, I hope that made sense. There's still potential

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01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 1: for volatility there. You're still going to be outmanned roster

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01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: wise by Oregon when you play them, Penn State when

1382
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: you play them, Yeah you will be. But that's okay

1383
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 1: because you don't have to win every game you play.

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01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: That should never be the expectation. That should be their expectation,

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01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: but it should never be the expectation outwardly. And so

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01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: it's a fairly workable schedule again this upcoming year. So

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01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: that's a mystery. And then the ultimate mystery team in

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01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: college football right now, maybe even the ultimate mystery program

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01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 1: in college football is North Carolina. Everything's new. Think about

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01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: this headline four months ago, how will Bill Belichick fair

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01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: in his first year at North Carolina? Well, you mean

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01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: the Panthers? You're talking about Charlotte, No Man, Chapel Hill,

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01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: Chapel Bill, How they gona fair? Are we gonna get

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01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: a bomb? Here? Look at the crowd go wild there

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01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: as if on cue? Good job, Colin. I saw the

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01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 1: opening lines for Week one and they're I think a

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01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: two and a half point favorite against TCU. Maybe FANDU

1398
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: will know something I don't. The model disagrees. I'll say

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01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: that at the moment, it's not a phenomenal entry point.

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01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: So it's not like they're walking in inheriting this ready

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01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: made contender for the playoff. That's not the way I

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01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 1: view North Carolina's roster per se. I am very much

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01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: intrigued by what they are and who they are at quarterback,

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 1: and then I just want to know how does it feel?

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01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: I'd imagine. So let's just say there's a world where

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01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: Belichick stays there five years minimum. Most people don't expect that.

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01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: But let's say you're wrong and he's their five years

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01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: minimum at that point they will have succeeded, obviously, and

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01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: at that point they'll be doing, you know, documentaries, and

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01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: you'll be looking back on his time at North Carolina

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01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: and I would imagine if he's still there in twenty thirty.

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01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: The way they tell the story is, we all knew

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01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: we were going to have to bite it a little

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01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: bit in twenty twenty five. Things were so new in

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01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. We didn't even really get our entire

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01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: process and our system implemented until midway through twenty twenty six.

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01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: So twenty twenty five, we always knew it was going

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01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 1: to be a learning curve. If you try and think futuristically,

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01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: I could easily see people talking like that about this year,

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01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: But no one's going to say that in the moment, Like, no,

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01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, you notice in spring, No coach what ever

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01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: comes to you and says, yet, we know we're really

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01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: deficient here, and honestly, we expect a sharp learning curve

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01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 1: there and we'll be lucky if we can make a

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01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: bowl this year. Hardly anyone says that, But then in

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01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: the aftermath they're like, yeah, we knew in spring, we

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01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: kind of knew this, We kind of knew that. I

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01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 1: just want for once a coach to tell me we're

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: gonna suck this year on the record. Probably not advice

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01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna get from the agent, so you're gonna have

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01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: to hear it from this angle. Okay, good show tonight. Now,

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01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 1: I am told that the NFL has given Sunday to

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01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: us for this week. I'm told that they have not

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01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: scheduled any games. We confirm that with the league office,

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01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: so we will have a show Sunday night. We have

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Speaker 1: agreed with the NFL to give them Super Bowl Sunday, Okay,

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01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 1: and good for us for doing that. Okay. In return,

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01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,759
Speaker 1: we have asked that they work in conjunction with college

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01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: football to fix the playoff calendar. Talks are ongoing there,

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01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: So long story short, we'll be here Sunday. Don't worry,

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01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: same time, same location. We appreciate you guys. Make sure

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Speaker 1: friends to do the same. Looking very forward to the

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Speaker 1: Speaker series coming up, because you know we're gonna sit

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01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: down with head coaches, it makes you wonder who else

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01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: might we sit down with? How many people at once

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01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: might we sit down? Could it be that there are

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01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: people in this very audience who might end up on

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01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,839
Speaker 1: the Speaker series? How would that even work? So many questions,

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Speaker 1: It's like an alphabet soup of questions. I promise you

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Speaker 1: I'll adder when need is time to answer. Until then.

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Speaker 1: For direct colin producer Jesse, I'm Josh Pape. Take care.

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