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Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcastle's so Gary, John Annick,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian, go you're your hosts John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh so much, goddamn yes. Monday, January twenty

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Speaker 2: ninth episode of the Anak and Florian podcast. How's your

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Speaker 2: stick flow? My best friend used to say, how's your

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Speaker 2: stick flow?

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Speaker 3: I never knew it.

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Speaker 4: Now I guess I know what that means. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean, is it the stick in my car? There's

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Speaker 4: so many ways we can go with this, but uh, yes,

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Speaker 4: so much. Yes, it's correct. Are you you're still alive?

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Speaker 4: Which is nice? You have you been sleeping or what.

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Speaker 3: I mean?

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Speaker 2: I know I look like garbage. Hopefully it's audio only

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Speaker 2: for most of you this week. But I did not

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Speaker 2: sleep after the Charlotte show. I went out. I went

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Speaker 2: out drinking tequila against my better judgment, so I woke

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Speaker 2: up like an hour before the show. I'm wearing it today,

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Speaker 2: and of course it's Super Bowl week, and yet there's

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Speaker 2: so much going on in the MMA world that I

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Speaker 2: can't even think about the Patriots, right. I think this

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Speaker 2: whole Daniel Cormier steepe Meo Chich thing has been a

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Speaker 2: welcome distraction, and we're going to talk a lot about

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Speaker 2: that today. Of course, we're going to recap the Charlotte

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Speaker 2: fights Jacqua d Soza back in a big way in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes. Here, We're going to bring on Eric

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Speaker 2: Anders live from Blaying Brazil. He fights Liotoma Cheetah in

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Speaker 2: the main event this weekend. Paul Felder, most diehard Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: Eagles fan on the roster as far as I see it,

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Speaker 2: so he's going to be on the show. He's also

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Speaker 2: calling the fights in Brazil this weekend. Long goes back.

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Speaker 2: We got predictions, a lot to get to, no time

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Speaker 2: to waste. We start, as always with headlines, headlines.

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Speaker 1: It's time for headlines. I have some very urgent and

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Speaker 1: important breaking new headlines on the John Nick and Kenny

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Speaker 1: Surians podcast.

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Speaker 2: So I want to start with the super fighter, and

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Speaker 2: you can certainly call it that. Daniel Cormier UFC Light

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Speaker 2: Heavyweight Champion moving up to challenge the UFC Heavyweight Champion.

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Speaker 2: Steep a Meo chitch they will coach on the ultimate Fighter.

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Speaker 2: They will meet July seventh. He had an Inklint Kenny

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Speaker 2: that this was in the works and could possibly be happening.

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Speaker 2: I spoke to d C right after or excuse me,

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Speaker 2: the day before it broke, and talk to him at

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Speaker 2: length about it, So I'll get into some of that.

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Speaker 2: You and I had a little bit of a disagreement

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Speaker 2: last week, I guess as to the merits of a

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Speaker 2: fight between DC and step A. So I'm just going

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Speaker 2: to start with the fact that I think he has

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Speaker 2: a great chance to win this fight. I do believe

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Speaker 2: Stepe is the greatest heavyweight of all time. I'd love

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Speaker 2: to see him capstone his legacy with winover DC or

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Speaker 2: or Kane Velasquez. I think Stepe is the greatest heavyweight

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Speaker 2: of all time. But I think people just don't understand

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Speaker 2: physically what Cormier brings to the table. I think they're

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Speaker 2: a little bit fooled by the frame. He went thirteen

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Speaker 2: Josh Barnett, and as Brian Stan would say, Kenny, until

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Speaker 2: you roll with the guy, maybe you don't have a

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Speaker 2: complete appreciation for the physicality. I think this is a

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Speaker 2: competitive fight, and I'm excited to see DC sees the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: This is a huge fight, you know, Daniel Korme. He's

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Speaker 3: just a winner. You know.

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Speaker 4: He's a guy who has been winning for the majority

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Speaker 4: of his life, whether it was wrestling or mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 4: He knows how to win. You know, this was this

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Speaker 4: was tough because what was he gonna do. He cleared

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Speaker 4: out the division, right He's already cleared out the light

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Speaker 4: heavyweight division. The only fight out there for him that's

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Speaker 4: semi interesting of a guy that he hadn't fought was

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Speaker 4: Glover to Shaa. But I think we know the results

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Speaker 4: of that fight already and because of that, I don't

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Speaker 3: I think he beats Glover.

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Speaker 4: I think of the rematch against Gustuson, I think he

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Speaker 4: you know, obviously this is a man who knows how

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Speaker 3: You know, this is a tough fight for Daniel. It's

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Speaker 4: It's quite the opportunity, and I think at this point

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Speaker 4: for Daniel, this is one of those legacy fights.

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Speaker 3: Right. If he can't get that fight or get get.

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Speaker 4: A win over John Jones, you go after the big game,

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Speaker 4: and that's Stepe Miaciic. You go out there and win

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Speaker 4: a heavyweight world championship fight. I mean, Daniel's already gonna

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Speaker 4: go down as one of the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 4: If he's able to pull this off, you know, he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, huge opportunity for him.

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Speaker 2: As far as the betting odds are concerned, right, Francis

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Speaker 2: but given kine velaskaz his layoff, I still think you're

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Speaker 2: looking at step A in that minus one fifty range, Kenny,

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Speaker 2: I agree, so it's a little bit more pronounced with

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Speaker 2: Cormier as you would expect. I want to talk about

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Speaker 2: the alternative for Daniel Cormier if this fight doesn't materialize, Right,

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Speaker 2: if Francis and Ganu beat stepe A and those two

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Speaker 2: Both men got the desired result to make this happen.

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Speaker 2: But this easily could have been nowhere near the table,

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Speaker 2: and that would mean that the alternative Kenny was was

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Speaker 2: Daniel Cormier, at thirty nine years old, putting his UFC

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Speaker 2: fifteen at UFC one ninety two, Cormier versus Gustufson. This

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Speaker 2: argument to be made Dominic Cruz would make it, not

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Speaker 2: So I just don't know that the alternative is a

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Speaker 4: No, absolutely, And let's talk about risk reward, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: A Miacic. First of all, you talk about the risk

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Speaker 3: So for that I like the fight.

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Speaker 4: I still think this is a very dangerous fight for Daniel.

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Speaker 4: This is the most dangerous fight of Daniel Cormier's career,

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Speaker 4: just based on the punching power of step A Miachich

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Speaker 4: If this fight doesn't materialize, I would imagine that the

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Speaker 4: UFC would have Kaine Velaskas maybe on the back burner

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Speaker 4: That's another fight I would like to see happen Kane

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Speaker 4: I mean, some amazing fights that are there being talked.

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Speaker 3: About right now.

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Speaker 2: All the thing that Kenny, all the things Kenny Florian

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Speaker 2: is hearing about that he can't share with you today.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's also a case of striking while

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Speaker 2: the iron is hot when it comes to Cornier, that

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Speaker 2: perhaps Kane Velasquez could be ready by July seventh, but

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Speaker 2: that's a monetarily better fight for the UFC than Kane

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Speaker 2: Stepe would be right now. And maybe that's why they're

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Speaker 3: Without a doubt, dude.

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Speaker 4: And I think that, you know, for the UFC, I

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Speaker 4: the rematch, and you know that would have been a

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Speaker 4: and exciting times ahead.

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Speaker 2: Man Cane Delask has pushed out a tweet that led

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Speaker 2: people to jump to the conclusion that he would fight

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Speaker 2: Daniel Cormier if Cormier beat step A. Now, given the

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Speaker 2: going to realize a seven figure pay day, I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure anybody would be all that surprised to see them fight,

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Speaker 2: quite frankly, right, I mean.

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Speaker 4: Maybe may listen, there's a lot there's no a lot

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Speaker 2: And again I don't know what type of money you're

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Speaker 2: And I think DC certainly likes his chances privately, more

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Speaker 3: It came.

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Speaker 2: But it's also interesting because Cormier and step A spent

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Speaker 4: Well, those were all the things that really concerned me.

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Speaker 2: Eric John and Kenny here Man. How's it going out

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Speaker 5: You know, uh, you know? I love it out here.

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Speaker 2: Well, you look good as usual. I noticed you cut

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Speaker 5: You know, I asked for it and they gave it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, man, I don't think you ever can

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Speaker 5: I asked, the best version of himself that he can be.

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Speaker 6: I think that, you know, pretty much my whole life.

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Speaker 6: Uh Man, you know, the goal is just to go

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Speaker 2: So from the first time I interviewed you, I think

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 5: I think maybe later on down the road. You know,

433
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Speaker 5: I don't think I'm a bad looking guy.

434
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Speaker 6: Man.

435
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 5: I can get on TV articulate fights and whatnot, so right,

436
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 5: you know, maybe later on down the road, once towards

437
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 5: the end of my career, But right now, I just

438
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Speaker 5: want to focus on fighting. And you know, you know,

439
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 5: I guess if they offer me, I guess, I guess

440
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 5: appearance or whatnot.

441
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Speaker 6: You know, I'll take it. But you know that's something

442
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 6: I'm pursuing at this.

443
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Speaker 2: Moment, right, You got your focus well placed. So the

444
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 2: bond you have with your wife, Yasmin, I know you

445
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 2: talked a lot about it in a documentary I watched

446
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 2: this morning. How much does that support and sort of

447
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: the having this mutual goal with her and your family

448
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,679
Speaker 2: sort of help keep you focused and keep you you know,

449
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 2: able to pursue what you know, it's a selfish thing.

450
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Speaker 3: You know.

451
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 2: I talked to a lot of fighters. Man, it's hard, right,

452
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 2: you got to be about this and sometimes if you

453
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 2: don't have that support system, it's easier said than done.

454
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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's kind of a catalyst for my career, to

455
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Speaker 5: be honest with you.

456
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Speaker 6: You know, she's one.

457
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Speaker 5: I was working a full time job and uh, you know,

458
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Speaker 5: she just all, you know, how you know I would

459
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Speaker 5: come home, I'd be tired.

460
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Speaker 6: I'd go straight from work to the gym.

461
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Speaker 5: So I get up and leave the house at four

462
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Speaker 5: thirty in the morning and then not come home till

463
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Speaker 5: ten o'clock at night. And you know, she just saw

464
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Speaker 5: how tough that kind of lifestyle is. And she said,

465
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Speaker 5: you know, why don't you just take two years. You know,

466
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 5: you're not a spring chicken. You know you're already twenty five.

467
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Speaker 5: You know, why don't she take two years see what

468
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 5: you can do in this sport. And man, you can

469
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 5: always go back to work if it doesn't work out.

470
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Speaker 5: So yeah, shered percent bought in. She you know, she

471
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Speaker 5: does all my all my meals for the dietary nutrition stuff.

472
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Speaker 5: She takes care of all that for me. So as

473
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Speaker 5: long as I eat only what she what she prepares,

474
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Speaker 5: making way, it's been a breeze and you know it

475
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 5: going for her, then you know, I probably wouldn't be

476
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Speaker 5: uh here right now, to be honest with you. You know,

477
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Speaker 5: I'd be working a job and you know, managing a

478
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Speaker 5: bunch of other stuff. So my only responsibility literally is

479
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Speaker 5: to train and that's it. So uh and she takes

480
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Speaker 5: care of everything at home and uh man, she's really

481
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Speaker 5: been a godsend.

482
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Speaker 2: Well, the results certainly speak to that commitment that she

483
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Speaker 2: has with you and you to the sports. You guys

484
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Speaker 2: have two boys, is that right? Two sons?

485
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Speaker 5: Yeah, she has a sound from a previous relationship, as

486
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Speaker 5: do I.

487
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Speaker 6: So she's got one. I got one, so we got too.

488
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Speaker 2: So if they want to be mixed martial artists, football players,

489
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Speaker 2: all of that is okay with you or not necessarily,

490
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Speaker 2: you know, if.

491
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Speaker 5: They wear their own shoes, you know, if they want

492
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Speaker 5: to play soccer, go for it. You know, I would

493
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Speaker 5: prefer them not to play football, but you know, yeah,

494
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 5: it's you know, it's what they want to do. And uh,

495
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 5: you know, right now they do jiu jitsu and they

496
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Speaker 5: train mixed martial arts they don't spar they don't you know,

497
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Speaker 5: punch each other or not, but they certainly wrestle and

498
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Speaker 5: do jiu jitsu and compete in jiu jitsu tournaments and whatnot.

499
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Speaker 5: And they both seem to have a healthy appetite for

500
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Speaker 5: the sport and love it. So you know, should they

501
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Speaker 5: continue down this path if you know, mixed martial arts

502
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 5: is what they want to do. And uh, you know,

503
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Speaker 5: by the time they're sixteen or seventeen, My oldest, uh,

504
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 5: he's been in the gym with me since he was

505
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Speaker 5: two years old, so by that time, he will have

506
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 5: had fourteen years of training, so you know, if he

507
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 5: wants to get in there and fight, then perfect. And

508
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 5: the younger one, uh, he started training about three or

509
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 5: four years ago, so he'll have plenty of experienced training.

510
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Speaker 6: Uh. And we'll you know, a stimulate they get out there.

511
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Speaker 6: They do.

512
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Speaker 5: Heill sprints with me, you know that, you know, so

513
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Speaker 5: you know, my wife drives me to the hills and

514
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 5: you know, we run and they've run too, so you

515
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 5: know they're bought in as well.

516
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Speaker 6: So that's something they want to do. Then you know,

517
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Speaker 6: I'm all for it.

518
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Speaker 2: Well, exciting times man for the Anders family. I think

519
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen shaping up as a big year for you.

520
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Speaker 2: It all begins this Saturday night on FS one of

521
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: the main event against Liota Machida. We won't be in Brazil.

522
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Speaker 2: We will certainly be watching now we be flying eyeing

523
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: back during the Super Bowl or you staying, how's your

524
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: travel working out on the back end?

525
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 6: No, man's it's a long trip. Man.

526
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 5: It took us like a day and a half just

527
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 5: to get here, right, you know, So as soon as

528
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 5: the fight's over, I think.

529
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Speaker 6: My flight leaves.

530
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 5: It's eleven eleven o'clock in the morning, so I'm probably

531
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Speaker 5: gonna miss the Super Bowl, So you know, I mean

532
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 5: it's not I'm not gonna fry about it. You know,

533
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna come out here, get this victory and

534
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 5: enjoy them at home.

535
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: Do you have it? Do you have a lean one

536
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: way or the other? Eagles are getting four and a

537
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: half points now against the Patriots. Who do you think

538
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: raises the Lombardi.

539
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 8: Man?

540
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 5: I think it's it's very difficult to beat Tom Pretty

541
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Speaker 5: and Bill Belichick in the game of that magnitude. You know,

542
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 5: you saw last year they were down like twenty four points.

543
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 5: There's something outrageous like that, and then they came back.

544
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 5: You know you can't never count Tommy be and Billy bl.

545
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: Well, you know we like hearing that noise. Eric Anders

546
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: here on the end of Employing podcast, all the best

547
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: against Lioto this weekend. Safe trip home man, and well

548
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: we'll continue to track your every move man. We appreciate

549
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 2: you breaking away here, especially during fight week, and we

550
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: wish all the best on Saturday.

551
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 6: My pleasure.

552
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: All right, there he is Eric Anders with us on

553
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: the Anak and Florian podcast. Smart football guy back in

554
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. But you know I don't

555
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: like to always come out and say in a leading way,

556
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: you're not gonna let your fucking sons play football, Eric,

557
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: are you right? You know how dangerous that game is.

558
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: But you notice I don't even have to lead him there,

559
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: and he's saying, I'd prefer if my kids don't play football,

560
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: if they want to go be pro MMA fighters. Perfect right.

561
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, like I have girls, right, Ken Flow

562
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: is going to have a daughter here in a few weeks.

563
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: I obviously we have huge opportunities for women now in

564
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: mixed martial arts, But dude, I would gladly let my

565
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: kids go be fighters. But if I had a son, like,

566
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: there's no way I could let him play football, you know,

567
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: unless somehow he got my wife's jeans. He was like,

568
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: you know, played O line or something, you know, but

569
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, car crash on every play. And

570
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: you know you heard it kind of there subtly from

571
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Speaker 2: Eric Anders.

572
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: You know, well, no, that's the thing.

573
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 4: And even now, you know, a lot of the experts

574
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 4: are saying if you're going to if you're going to

575
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 4: let your child play football, wait till they're in high school,

576
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 4: you know, don't have them, you know, at when their

577
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 4: brain is still developing, just ramming it into another kid's head,

578
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 4: you know, leading up to their career.

579
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: It's it's just not a good idea. You know. Again,

580
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: football is brutal.

581
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 4: On the body, there's no doubt about that, and obviously

582
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 4: we all know about the effects on the brain.

583
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 3: And no, no boint. I wouldn't want my kid to

584
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: play football either, man.

585
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: So I didn't play football. But football was always a

586
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: big part of our lives. We were Patriots season ticket

587
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: holders with my grandfather all throughout the eighties and early

588
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 2: nineties when the Pats with a laughing stock of the NFL.

589
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: It is the the family sport, right. My mom is

590
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: absolutely nuts about the New England Patriots. But every time

591
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 2: I find out I'm having a girl, right, I mean

592
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: every time I one of the first things I think

593
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: about you call me a little twisted. One of the

594
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: first things I think about, though, is well, at least

595
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 2: I don't have to have that football conversation, you know,

596
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: because I ingest enough NFL football to know that there's

597
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 2: a car crash on every play. I mean it's you know,

598
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: you hear us calling fights him. Oh you know, when

599
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm watching football, I'm like hiding under the couch because

600
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 2: every play there's just a nasty, nasty collision.

601
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: All right.

602
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: Back to the guest line, now joining US UFC lightweight contender,

603
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: UFC commentator lifelong Philadelphia sports fan, can still hear the

604
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: damn accent in his voice. The Irish Dragon Paul Felder

605
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: is with us pee money. What's the good word those up?

606
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 6: Guys?

607
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: So, so I know you're leaving to Brazil? Are you

608
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: going tomorrow?

609
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 7: I leave Wednesday?

610
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: Wednesday? Okay?

611
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 2: So of course, the first time your Eagles are in

612
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl since two thousand and four, you got

613
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: to be in Brazil. What are you gonna do?

614
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 7: Well, that's what I'm trying. I'm trying to still figure

615
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 7: this out. But I was talking to Brandon Fitzgerald and

616
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 7: some of the guys. We think with the way our

617
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 7: layover in Sal Paul on the way back is going

618
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 7: to work out. We think we can catch most of

619
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 7: the at least the first half of the game, and

620
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 7: then from there, hopefully when I'm in on the plane,

621
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 7: I can get Wi Fi and at least keep track

622
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 7: of where the score is at or hopefully the pilot

623
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 7: we'll keep track.

624
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, all right, So I'm just gonna throw

625
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: this out there to you. I my mom does not

626
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: want you at our house. Okay, full disclosure, But there

627
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: is a fight.

628
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: There is a flight ball.

629
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: There's a flight on Azul Airlines for five hundred and

630
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: sixty nine dollars. Okay. It is a direct flight from Blay,

631
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: Brazil to Fort Lauderdale. It leaves Bulang at one thirty

632
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 2: It lands in Fort Lauderdale, Florida at five thirty pm,

633
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: which would get you to my house unless customs holds

634
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: you up if you look like a dangerous man. But

635
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: that would get you to my house probably five or

636
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: seven minutes into the first quarter. So I felt like

637
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: I wasn't being a good friend if I didn't at

638
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: least throw.

639
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: That out there.

640
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's is it too late though to book that

641
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 7: fight as the question.

642
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: It's five hundred and sixty nine dollars on orbits this morning,

643
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: so see what you can do. Really, don't wake my

644
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: daughters if you come. I mean, I'm nervous to watch

645
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: it with an Eagles fan, but it is out there,

646
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: so you might as well at least look into it

647
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: when we're done, my friend, okay.

648
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 7: Man, but I don't know me and you might. We

649
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 7: may get into a fist fight that that's definitly possible,

650
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 7: don't you think.

651
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: I know?

652
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't like my chances in a

653
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Speaker 2: fist fight with the most powerful lightweight on the.

654
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Speaker 3: Rocket and it can bite Paul, and it can bite

655
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: he can fight with the you know better drunk than on.

656
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: The tequila will be flowing, but uh, well, we'll see.

657
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: I just want to throw it out. I'm not like

658
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: dying to watch the game with you, bro, but I

659
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: think it would be a little bit fun.

660
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 4: Listen, Pie, I think Anni's got a solid five seconds

661
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: against you. I think, yeah, I think five seconds last.

662
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 7: Listen the true street fight cardio. I'm going hard artists

663
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 7: as fast as I possibly said. And if I catch you,

664
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Speaker 7: I catch you. If I don't, I'm done.

665
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: Well.

666
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: Listen, there is an actual fight that you got coming

667
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 4: up against Ali at Quinta. When you were at Fox

668
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: last time, you know there were you guys were talking

669
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: about maybe getting it on. It's finally happening. This fight

670
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: has been made. Man, what do you think?

671
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm beyond excited for this fight. Glad whatever

672
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 7: had to happen with him, he got his new deal

673
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 7: or whatever is going on with him, I don't care

674
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 7: what he had to do and what's going on. You know,

675
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 7: he played hardball and he got what he wanted. But

676
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 7: the fight is signed. I know that he signed his contract.

677
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 7: I signed my contract on an amazing card. We're in Brooklyn,

678
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 7: We're close to my hometown, We're definitely close to his hometown.

679
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 7: I'm going to have a lot of support there. You know,

680
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 7: some Philadelphia music already that I can come out to

681
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 7: and just I don't care what that crowd thinks. I'm

682
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 7: coming in Philly strong for that one. And I'm going

683
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 7: to let him know which is the tougher city, Long

684
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Speaker 7: Island or South Phil off you.

685
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: He's going to know it real quick now, as tough

686
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: as I acquint to is.

687
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 4: Does it make you a little nervous that you know

688
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: he's had some injuries that that are prevented him from competing.

689
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: Does that make you nervous preparing for this fight?

690
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the only thing that I don't think at

691
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 7: this point, with how he worked to deal out with

692
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 7: the UFC. You know, I and he's even a bit

693
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 7: minute that it's a fight that he can get excited about,

694
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 7: just the style that we both have. But I know

695
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 7: he's had and things like that, and he's been out

696
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 7: for a little while. So he's got to start really

697
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 7: pushing the pace the closer we get to this fight.

698
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 7: So I'm hoping that he can stay healthy. I hope

699
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 7: the UFC at least has somebody in mind in case

700
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 7: he gets injured, not that he's going to pull out,

701
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 7: because you know, he's just going to pull some ally

702
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 7: at Clinton stuff. I think he's over that, he's got

703
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 7: his contract. He wants to fight now. It's a matter

704
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 7: of hopefully he is one hundred percent healed, up from

705
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 7: any injuries that he has.

706
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: Paul Felder with us on the Anak and Florian podcast.

707
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Speaker 2: You obviously had to deal with that circumstance prior to

708
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Speaker 2: your last fight, and you were able to stay on

709
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: the card and get Charles oll Vera out of there.

710
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: I mean, are you just sort of adopting a mentality

711
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: that one way or another, I am going to fight

712
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: in Brooklyn and if Al isn't the guy, if install

713
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: somehow be able to move things forward, yeah, yeah.

714
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Speaker 7: I don't care. I mean if it, if it gets

715
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 7: down to the wire and something happens to him, I'm

716
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 7: one hundred percent going to keep fighting. I'm one of

717
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 7: those guys. I'm not going to be like, oh, I'm

718
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 7: going to wait till he heels up and fight. No,

719
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 7: no way, I'm if. I'm if I'm going away to Milwaukee, living,

720
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 7: you know, in a basement and training three four times

721
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 7: a day and cutting all this weight, I'm getting in

722
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 7: there and throwing down and getting my paycheck.

723
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: So you are obviously a big one hundred and fifty

724
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: five pound fighter. You have never missed weight, even though

725
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: I know there's nothing easy about it. There's been so

726
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: much discourse over the last several weeks about fighters missing

727
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: weight and staring death in the face and seizing and

728
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: convulsing making this weight. I would imagine guys like you

729
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: maybe don't have a lot of sympathy for guys who

730
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: are undisciplined and maybe don't handle those final few weeks

731
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Speaker 2: as well as they should.

732
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you hit it on the head there, man, I

733
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 7: don't I feel bad for them healthwise that you know,

734
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 7: they had to go through any of that kind of stuff,

735
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 7: And you know, I feel bad for their opponents more

736
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 7: than anything. A lot of the time. It's one thing

737
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 7: if you slip and fall and hurt, you know, and

738
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 7: get hurt, everybody gets dizzy and those accidents that happen.

739
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 7: But when you're you know, depleting yourself to the point

740
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 7: of you know, not being able to make weight or

741
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 7: or just not making it whatsoever, and it's because you

742
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 7: were just not disciplined during your camp. I cut a

743
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 7: lot of weight, but I don't cut it all in

744
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 7: the last week's camp. You see me for the last

745
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 7: couple of weeks, I'm a miserable mother effort because I'm

746
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 7: on such a strict diet. I'm on a high fat diet.

747
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 7: I'm not eating a lot of carbohydrates, water loading like crazy.

748
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 7: I'm doing the salt, you know. You know, balancing my

749
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Speaker 7: salt correctly is the when I cut it out, the

750
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 7: water comes off of me. I'm doing all those things correctly.

751
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 7: I'm hiring people and talking to people so that it's

752
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 7: a ton of weight, but it's not all in water.

753
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 7: At the last three days of fight week, all.

754
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: Right, I'm only going to keep you a few I

755
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: don't know about. You had this fight coming up more

756
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 2: than one, Eric Anders and Lioto Machidah, so we had

757
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: Anders on today. There's no betting line yet we're sort

758
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: of proceeding as if Anders is going to be the favorite.

759
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: I know you've probably broken this thing down extensively. Your

760
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: thoughts on what we might see out of Anders in

761
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 2: Machida this weekend on FS.

762
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Speaker 7: One, Yeah, I mean it's crazy because we're joking around

763
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 7: that when he called out Michida, I'm like, ah, there's

764
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 7: no way this guy's going to get that fight yet.

765
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 7: And one a week later, he's the main event against

766
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 7: Leota Mitchida, who's an absolute legend. But he's a big, strong,

767
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 7: super athletic guy, and if he keeps sharpening his skills

768
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 7: up and can touch Liota. We've seen him go down

769
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 7: way too many times later in his career now he

770
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 7: hasn't quite looked the same. Unfortunately. Lioto is one of

771
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 7: my absolute all time hero in MMA coming up. He's

772
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 7: the reason I pretty much decided to train, you know,

773
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 7: go from karate into mixed martial arts and do that

774
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 7: all kind of you know, So to see him at

775
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 7: the tail end of his career is kind of exciting

776
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 7: and sad at the same time. I'm hoping that he

777
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 7: at least puts on a great show and maybe he

778
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 7: can pull it off and get the knockout in his hometown.

779
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 7: But he's got a big test in front of him

780
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 7: in anders who is just you know, a freak athlete.

781
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: All right.

782
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: Final thing, I know you and your brothers are die

783
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: hard Philadelphia Eagles fans and they have not won a

784
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: Pro football championships since nineteen sixty. I mentioned last Super

785
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: Bowl was two thousand and four. I think for a

786
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: lot of Eagles fans, they're excited that they're staring down

787
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: the barrel at Brady and Belichick because it gives them

788
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: an opportunity to not just win a super Bowl, but

789
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: to do it against a dynasty. They're getting four and

790
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: a half points right now, they are the underdog. I

791
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: give them a great chance to win this football game.

792
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: We're going to give our predictions later in the show.

793
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 2: How confident are you that Nick Foles can put together

794
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: back to back games, that this team can go score

795
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: thirty points and parade through the streets of Philadelphia.

796
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 7: Man, I'm pretty confident because they seem very confident, they

797
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 7: want it, and you just there's a sense about them

798
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 7: right now. They're wearing the dog masks they're getting. Every

799
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 7: radio show that you listen to here in Philly is

800
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 7: giving away dog masks at the underdog this we're embracing

801
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 7: this Philly underdog. And you know, Stallone posted that awesome

802
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 7: picture of him and Drago and the jerseys, and he's like,

803
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 7: we know how this one ended up. And it's just

804
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 7: I mean, if people are buzzing like crazy, everybody is

805
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 7: wearing their gear every single day walking around the streets,

806
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 7: I see random people that are wearing the egos thing,

807
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 7: and I'm just like, go birds, just random ranges and

808
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 7: we all are kind of bonding together over this. I

809
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 7: think I think if there was a year to do it.

810
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 7: It's this year because of the circumstances, because it's a

811
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 7: Philly team, and of course we don't have wins. Of

812
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 7: course it's not going our way. Of Course, the circumstances

813
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 7: aren't stacked in our favor. That's when I think we're

814
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 7: the strongest as the city and as as a football team.

815
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 7: So I'm very confident that they can go in there

816
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 7: and fight tooth and nail and scratch their way to

817
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 7: winning that Super Bowl.

818
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: Well, if it happens, I'll be crying in my frosted flakes,

819
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: but I'll be very happy for you, sincerely. I know

820
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: how much you guys put into the team. I just

821
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: got to stop shouting out this span base on Twitter

822
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: because people did not want seem to think you're gonna

823
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: be killed.

824
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 7: You're gonna get killed on some street somewhere. I'm not

825
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 7: my an Eagles fan, but man, people hate our fans

826
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 7: and I'm loving every second of it. I can't retweet

827
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 7: enough hate that you're getting on Twitter, because see how

828
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 7: bad people hate our fans. I just keep retweeting it

829
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 7: and putting smiley faces and little whiny bases like I'll

830
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 7: be crying, you know, what I mean.

831
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I do wish your Eagles all the best,

832
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: and I hope you have a great call this Saturday night.

833
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: Get home safely and uh, if you need my address, man,

834
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 2: just text me and uh and I'll see a Sunday night.

835
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: If not, all the best and we appreciate the time.

836
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 7: Man, I will you know what I'm gonna look into

837
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 7: as soon as I'm done tasting today, I'm gonna go online.

838
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 7: I'm gonna look at it. I'm gonna text you send

839
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 7: me that link.

840
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna tweet. I'm gonna tweet annex address

841
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: to you right now. No one will know.

842
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you man.

843
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 7: We'll meet there me and I tell all the Philadelphia

844
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 7: here's a draft.

845
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: I have a good trip, dude.

846
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 7: Thank you guys. Great talking to you.

847
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 3: Man.

848
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: There he is the Iris Dragon, Paul Felder. He fights

849
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: al A Quinta, of course, in April in Brooklyn, New York.

850
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: So here's my former colleague Chris Carter now on f

851
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: S one. Okay, I used to do recaps of all

852
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: the NFL games with my man Chris Carter. I had

853
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: him use a green sharpie to sign this Philadelphia Eagles card.

854
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: At the time, he couldn't sign it h O F,

855
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: but we knew that was coming. He only knew me

856
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 2: as the don't text and drive guy because he said,

857
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: what if someone catches you texting and driving? You better

858
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: stop saying that on TV. But uh, for Paul Felder

859
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: and Brian standing for Chris Carter, a lot of good

860
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: Eagles fans out there. I went to college in Pennsylvania,

861
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: So not that I feel torn here by any stretch

862
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: of the imagination, but it's going to be an emotional

863
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: one for me because most of my good friends support this.

864
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: This the Philadelphia Eagle.

865
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 4: Last time Felder was at Fox, he brought everyone like

866
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,160
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867
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 4: little mini footballs.

868
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

869
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: See he's he's definitely a rabid fan. I have since

870
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: given that football away, Yes you have, think I burned it,

871
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 4: had a ceremonial burned of the football, but I don't know.

872
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. Yeah, yeah, what a tool given everybody. Yeah, yeah,

873
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Speaker 2: more things on Charlotte before we spin this thing forward

896
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: to Anders and Macheta. This weekend in Blaying, we talked

897
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 2: about Jacka d So's I'm not sure how much more

898
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: there is on that.

899
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 6: I know.

900
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: Dominic Cruz was sort of thinking, maybe Derek Brunson needs

901
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: to spar a little bit more. And even though he

902
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: feels very confident Kenny in his training in Wilmington, North

903
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: Carolina and Atlanta, Georgia, this is a full time dad.

904
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: His daughters live with him full time.

905
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: And you hear so many fighters talk about centering everything

906
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: else around fighting, or Tom Brady talk about football as

907
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: the epicenter of his life and sacrificing things when it

908
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: comes to the children. Derek Brunson lived in Albuquerque, New Mexico,

909
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: thirty months of his life, and there was a time

910
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: when he did make the ultimate sacrifice. He might still

911
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: be one of the best workers in this middleweight division.

912
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything about his work ethic, but the

913
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: center of his life is his daughters. And you can

914
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: argue that that's not ideal for a professional mixed martial

915
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: arts act.

916
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 3: It's certainly difficult.

917
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 4: It's something that I was very fortunate when I was

918
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 4: fighting that I didn't have so many other things going on.

919
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 4: And I think fighting is one of those things because

920
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: it entails.

921
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 3: So much skill building, so much work. You do have

922
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: to be selfish.

923
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you have to be selfish as a professional

924
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: athlete no matter what, but particularly a sport where you're

925
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 4: constantly learning. I mean there's no one out there that

926
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 4: I've seen that as a master of mixed martial arts.

927
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 4: Everyone has a weakness or series of weaknesses. That means

928
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 4: you need to turn those weaknesses into strengths, and the

929
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: only way you do that is by being on the

930
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: mat training all the time and getting the best training

931
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: you can afford. That's a very difficult thing, but you

932
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 4: know what, at the end, it comes down to priorities

933
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: and Derek Brunson having a family, having daughters that he

934
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 4: has to take care of.

935
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: That's his priority. And sometimes you don't always get that

936
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: balance right if you want.

937
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: To be successful as a fighter, as a father, you

938
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 4: don't always get it just right. So a difficult thing

939
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 4: to juggle, I imagine.

940
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: And of course for Sosa, the same thing can be said.

941
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: Right he uprooted his family to Orlando, left Joe Schuldistick

942
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: and all the ex Gym guys. And again we talked

943
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: a lot about that narrative leading into the fight, whether

944
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: or not that might rear its ugly head in a

945
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: negative way for Jockaday, but it certainly didn't do that.

946
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: But you know, we'll see how Brunson can bounce back.

947
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: I still think he's one of the best athletes in

948
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: this division. And you see what he does Kenny to

949
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: the guys who aren't in this top ten, I mean,

950
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 2: just ruins him.

951
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: In a couple of minutes.

952
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: You know, he's still one of the more decorated knockout

953
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: artists this division has ever seen. So we'll see if

954
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: he can get back. And I think for Sosa, as

955
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, it's going to be in that mix

956
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: of Whittaker, Romero and Rockold for his next fight. You

957
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: would think the jacka Day Winman fight has legs as well,

958
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: so maybe that would be an eliminator to allow the

959
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: Whittaker Romero rock Hold situation to sort itself out. But nonetheless,

960
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: big weekend for jacka Day, so isa too bad we

961
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: didn't do a better number on Fox and more people

962
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: didn't see it all, right, Gregor Gillespie against Jordan Ronaldi,

963
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: and I'm trumping the Comaine event and starting with this one, Kenny.

964
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: I know it was a quick fight, and I know

965
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: a disappointing one for Jordan Ronaldi, who is an absolutely

966
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 2: huge lightweight. He was competing in his native Charlotte, North Carolina.

967
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: But this Gillespie is a real problem, Kenny. And as

968
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: someone who fought for the belt three times in this division,

969
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just curious the level of competition being

970
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: what it has been up to this point, how high

971
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: is the ceiling for a guy who, at least to

972
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: my amateur eyes, looks the part of future contender, if

973
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 2: not champ.

974
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 4: Well Physically, he's an impressive individual. He's a guy who's

975
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 4: not going to quit. He's a guy who's not going

976
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: to get tired either. He's going to stay on you.

977
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 4: Certainly a fearless fighter as well. So as far as

978
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 4: the mental comp to Gregor Gillespie, that cannot be questioned.

979
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 4: He definitely has the recipe to be a champion when

980
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 4: it comes to that aspect. Skill wise, doesn't need to improve, absolutely,

981
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 4: He's still a little bit early.

982
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: In his career.

983
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: I think he just needs to make smarter decisions, and

984
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 4: I think we saw that smarter decision play out here

985
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 4: against Rinaldi. I think that not that he couldn't strike

986
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 4: with someone like Jordan Ronaldi, but he knew that, you know,

987
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: he would have the big advantage on the ground. He

988
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 4: just walked right through Rinaldi, you know, mounting him at ease,

989
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 4: taking his back, flattening him out, landing heavy ground and pound,

990
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 4: and taking the fight where you know, there was the

991
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 4: path of least resistance.

992
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 3: I thought that was a smart approach.

993
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 4: We're starting to see that maturity and development of a

994
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 4: guy like Gregor Gillespie, so I'm excited to see his future.

995
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: I think he's a guy that will definitely break into

996
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 4: the top ten in the near future, probably for twenty eighteen.

997
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy to hear wrestlers talk about him and

998
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: those who watch a wrestling to talk about what he

999
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: was able to accomplish at Edinburgh University one hundred and

1000
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: fifty two career wins, school.

1001
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 4: Record, three or fourth time All America National champion as

1002
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 4: a freshman his first year, which is unbelievable.

1003
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 2: And again, he has always been a guy who has

1004
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 2: been better on fight night than he is in the gym,

1005
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: but he says that's been one difference between his wrestling

1006
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: career and his MMA career that now he is training

1007
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: better than he ever did as a wrestler. He's not

1008
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 2: using his training camp to get into shape. So excited

1009
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: to see where Gregor Gillespie can go from here. The

1010
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: co main event was Andre Peeley and Dennis permute As.

1011
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: I thought it was an entertaining fight. I thought it

1012
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: was a strategic one for Pheelly secured four of his

1013
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: eight takedown attempts and that got him the split decision

1014
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: when twenty nine to twenty eight times two the dissenting

1015
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: judge had at thirty to twenty seven for Dennis Bermudez.

1016
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: I always throw out my scorecard when I'm calling the fight, Kenny.

1017
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 2: I did think Dennis bermude has won this fight two

1018
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: rounds to one. I just thought I understand that he

1019
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 2: didn't succeed on his takedown attempts, but it really wasn't

1020
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: as big a part of his game plan as it

1021
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 2: was for Philly. But I've been in Bermuda as any

1022
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: credit for the calfkicks in this fight for Chop, Like,

1023
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: I just I don't know, man, I'm not saying this

1024
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: is a robbery. I thought it was a close fight.

1025
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 2: I hope people aren't sensitive when we give our opinions,

1026
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: but I had the best seat in the house, and

1027
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: I really thought Dennis Bermudez did enough to get his

1028
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: hand raised.

1029
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: Do you agree? You disagree? I absolutely agree with you.

1030
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: Andre Philly thought a pretty good fight, and I thought

1031
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: the takedowns were very impressive, hitting them against Dennis Bermudez,

1032
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 4: who I thought would have a big advantage.

1033
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 3: There was not the case.

1034
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: Feeley did an amazing job counter wrestling and trying to

1035
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 4: keep Bermudez on the outside. But I do agree I

1036
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 4: had it twenty nine to twenty eight for Bermudez. I

1037
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 4: thought he won the first round. I thought he won

1038
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 4: the third round. I think you need to look at

1039
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 4: anytime you get a semi close fight like this, you

1040
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 4: have to look at who's initiating the action. And I

1041
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 4: think that that's kind of one of the things that

1042
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: they look at in boxing, in any kind of the

1043
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 4: any type of the combat sports, you have to look

1044
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 4: at who is initiating the action and who was successful

1045
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: in that rag and Bermudez was doing both really in

1046
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 4: that first round, and he did that as well in

1047
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 4: the third. I thought that Phelly, with his takedowns in

1048
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 4: the second, with his ability to control and land some

1049
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: stripes from the outside, I thought he won the second round.

1050
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, unfortunate result for Bermudez, who now is on

1051
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: a little bit of a fight skid. There a guy

1052
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 4: who a lot of people thought would fight for the

1053
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: belt one day is struggling in this division. And again,

1054
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 4: I think the featherweight division is the second most difficult

1055
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 4: division in the UFC after lightweight. So a lot of

1056
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: fantastic fighters there.

1057
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 3: Pheeley. You know, again, he didn't rob this one. It

1058
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 3: was a close fight, yeah, you know, so props to him.

1059
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 3: He is a tough guy and a guy.

1060
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 4: Who really believes in himself right now, and because of that,

1061
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: he's a dangerous fighter. And obviously all the coaches over

1062
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 4: at Team Alfamel doing a fantastic job with him.

1063
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I agree with everything you just said. And

1064
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: in terms of the scoring, and you hear us say

1065
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: at every UFC show, scoring is based upon effective striking

1066
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: and grappling, So you stopped there. The only way, the

1067
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: only reason you would go to aggression or octagon control

1068
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: is if you can't determine a winner based upon effective

1069
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 2: striking and grappling. So even in that third round, Kenny, right,

1070
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: if you thought that Bermudez was the more effective striker

1071
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: and heally was the more effective grappler, and you thought

1072
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: that that maybe canceled each other out, and I disagree.

1073
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: I thought that Bermudez got that third round for me.

1074
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: Then you go to aggression and to your point, right,

1075
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: I think for Bermudez, it's very frustrating when you feel

1076
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: like you're the guy pushing the action right and you're

1077
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: losing because of reactive takedowns.

1078
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: You know, it's a tricky, tricky thing.

1079
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And also what did he really do

1080
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: with those takedowns of the third round and Bermudas just

1081
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 4: got right back to his feet, So some questionable judging. Again,

1082
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: this is something that we will continue to struggle with

1083
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 4: as this sport moves forward.

1084
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very, very tough result there for Bermudez.

1085
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: All right, So Andre Feeley gets the win. In the

1086
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: co main event, we mentioned Gregor Gillespie Fight of the

1087
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: and I was Drew dover and Frank Camacho living up

1088
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: to the offensive hype in that main card slot on Fox. Also,

1089
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: congratulations to Bobby Green thought it looked great against Eric

1090
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: Coke and Mersad Bechdick a bonus winner as well for

1091
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: his TKO of gottol Fredo Pepe with that beautiful right

1092
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: hand to the mid section. So that puts a book

1093
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: on Charlotte. The UFC shows, of course, keep on coming.

1094
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 2: It's belaying Brazil this weekend for UFC Fight Night. Bacheetah

1095
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: versus anders to that end, Let's get to the main

1096
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: event challenge.

1097
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge and the.

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00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 4: Time is most definitely hi finished fight.

1099
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 9: How do you everything?

1100
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: Both will do win the main event challenge. John Annick

1101
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: and Kenny Florian podcast All Right.

1102
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: Team Annic led Team Florian four to two going into

1103
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: UFC Charlotte. Paul O'Neill repping the Weed Zillions went head

1104
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: to head with Ken Flow. So Kenny got Paul on

1105
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: the dober Camacho fight. It was all Pauli the rest

1106
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: of the way though. He had Jock at a so

1107
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: Gregor Gillespie and then he had Andre Peeley as an underdog.

1108
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 2: And for you that bermute as phelly fight man, that's

1109
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: a three point swing instead of getting a plus one.

1110
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: The other guy gets two.

1111
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 4: So the fans are killing me. The fans are killing Menick.

1112
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: They're going listen, Florian, you suck at calling fights. Now,

1113
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 4: what's going It's not. It hasn't been the strongest starts

1114
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 4: for me for this year, but I think it happened

1115
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 4: last year, last couple of years. I kind of I'm

1116
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 4: a little slow to start, and then once they get going, yes,

1117
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of yeah, that is. It certainly

1118
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 4: was last year, and then you sort of mop the

1119
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 4: floor with us. We tried to make it as competitive

1120
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 4: as we could down the stretch, but you know, I

1121
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 4: don't make the rules. Actually I do make the rules,

1122
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 4: but we agree on m team.

1123
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: Annick wins the week four to one, extending the lead

1124
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: to eight to three going into UFC bling, let's fucking

1125
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 2: go join us to make picks today. One of the

1126
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: top welterweight amateurs can flow in the state of North Carolina.

1127
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 2: He was born in South Carolina, not all that far

1128
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: from where Clark and Kenny got married. Nice So I

1129
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: met this guy actually at a restaurant after the fight

1130
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: Saturday night. So big fan of the podcast Good Amateur Fighter,

1131
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 2: Will is it Coggin or covid.

1132
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 8: Will you had to write the first time, John Coggan.

1133
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: Will Coggan is with us. It's good to have you

1134
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: on today. Man. How you doing.

1135
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 8: I'm doing great. It's great to be on, Kenny. I'm

1136
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 8: a longtime fan of yours. I still got a team

1137
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 8: Kim Flow where team Florian shirt in my closet, but

1138
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 8: not going to give you any gimmes this week to

1139
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 8: fight all the time words Johneen.

1140
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: Come on, man, I'm having a rough couple of weeks

1141
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: here with the picks.

1142
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: Thanks dude.

1143
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: So Will, Your last amateur fight was in September. If

1144
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: my research serves correct, is that right?

1145
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1146
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 8: Yeah it was. I certainly didn't expect you to do

1147
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 8: that much, but it will.

1148
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 7: It was.

1149
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 8: It was all right, not my best performance, but you know,

1150
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 8: I gabble. This is what happens when you're not good

1151
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 8: at sticking ball sports.

1152
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: I guess, well, Ken Flow is okay, but I your

1153
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: point is well taken. But no, I'm prepping for the

1154
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: Anakin floor. In podcast by googling Will Coggan, I didn't

1155
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: want to short change in today and hopefully you keep

1156
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: it going undefeated as an amateur. But we got to

1157
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: make some picks right now, So two picks today and

1158
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: then we'll do three quick picks time permitting. On the

1159
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: back end, let's start with this co main event here.

1160
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: You can see it this Saturday night on FS one

1161
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: at bantamweight John Dodson Piedro Munos. So no odds yet,

1162
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: so we'll proceed as if Dodson is the slight favorite.

1163
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: We can certainly change that if need be wants. The

1164
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: line opens. Dodson coming off a split decision lost to

1165
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: Marlon but Ice back in November, still I think a

1166
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: force to be reckoned with here at Bandamwaight. Same could

1167
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: be said for Pedro Munio's He submitted Rob thought back

1168
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: in October, and I think you can argue and I

1169
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: will that that look that win now looks even better

1170
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: given what Rob font was able to do against Munyo's

1171
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: countryman Thomas Almadas. So it is Dodson and Munio's in

1172
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: the co main event this weekend. Will who gets it done?

1173
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 7: All right?

1174
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 8: So the longest short of it is Pedro is count

1175
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 8: flow under the radar. Dodson has dropped two of his

1176
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 8: last three, albeit you know, five split decision, but Pedro

1177
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 8: does a great job cooking his opponents with pressure. He

1178
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 8: does get square in the pocket, you know when he

1179
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 8: is attacking, but he's vicious. He attacks the body, he

1180
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 8: attacks the legs, and he's got great smooth transitions attacking

1181
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 8: the neck and he scrambles well. So Dotson has the

1182
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 8: advantage with tim ding, speed and footwork. But I think

1183
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 8: that Pedro is going to get this done, man. I

1184
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 8: think he can. He can negate some of that movement

1185
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 8: and some of the timing with the leg kicks and

1186
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 8: body shots. He pulled off a big win at home here.

1187
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: Good insight there from Will Kenny, and I do believe

1188
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: it's an interesting stylistic matchup here for John. Dotson might

1189
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: even get the underdog points as well, potentially depending on

1190
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 2: where this betting line is. What do you think flow

1191
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 2: Muno's Dotson?

1192
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 3: Which way you go?

1193
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 6: You know?

1194
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: I thought that was an excellent breakdown by Will. I'm

1195
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 4: gonna go with Munios. I'm gonna go with Munos as well.

1196
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 4: I think his ability to fight in his home country

1197
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: to pressure Dotson gives him the advantage. And I think, yes,

1198
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 4: Dowson has you know, the footwork and speed advantage. He

1199
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 4: also has an overhand left that he throws extremely well,

1200
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 4: that Munios has to be very careful with. But I

1201
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 4: think Munios is going to be able to win some

1202
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 4: scrambles on the ground. I think he's gonna find a

1203
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 4: way to get this fight to the Matt mix things up,

1204
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 4: pressure Dawson and get the win by decision.

1205
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: All right, main event, We're gonna proceed as if Eric

1206
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 2: Anders is the slight favorite against Leoto Machieda. Not sure

1207
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: how pronounced it'll be. Machida is certainly the bigger name,

1208
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: but in terms of the current form advantage Anders, he's

1209
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 2: ten and oh seven finishes. Most of you know the

1210
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: book on Leoto Machiita, former UFC champion. This will be

1211
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: his twenty third UFC appearance. He has been finished in

1212
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: three straight. Now, granted there was an eighteen month suspension

1213
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: in there, but the ledger reads last win December twenty

1214
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: fourteen against Cebe Dollaway, and it's a quick turnaround here

1215
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: for Lioto Macheda after the knockout loss to Derek Brunson

1216
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: in late October. So this is the main event. Will

1217
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: we'll need the round and the method of victory. Who

1218
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: is the prediction for the headliner in blaz.

1219
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 8: So I'm gonna go with what we think is going

1220
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 8: to be the favorite here and for what I think

1221
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 8: is good reason. I think anders is going to get

1222
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 8: it done by TKO in the second round. Your boy

1223
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 8: might have one of the worst nicknames in the USC

1224
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 8: that he can fight his ass off. So when when

1225
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 8: I looked at the fight man, he has I think

1226
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 8: for the middleweight division, some of the best ring or

1227
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 8: cage cutting and awareness, and he's great in the clinch.

1228
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 8: He uses frames well to create distance for his strikes,

1229
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 8: and he has a really good head position. He's a southpaw,

1230
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 8: that's I mean, he's just a beast of an athlete.

1231
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 8: He's you know, is a national champ at Alabama and

1232
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 8: he's transferred you know, what he learned in football to

1233
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 8: to lateral movement and good footwork. So he does these

1234
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 8: small things well. He translates them into his ground and

1235
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 8: pounds good with farsad arm traps, stave's hip to hip

1236
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 8: against the fence when his opponent turtles. Michieta is great.

1237
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 8: He's a champion for a reason, But like you touched on,

1238
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 8: he's kind of become Chinney and I don't think his

1239
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 8: movement is going to surprise the season athlete.

1240
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: Like anders here, I think this podcast is going to

1241
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 2: be the Florian and Cogging podcast in a couple.

1242
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 3: Breaks it down, well, I'll tell you that he does

1243
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 3: his homework. Which way you going, boss? Listen?

1244
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 4: I gotta agree with will here again, no controversy here.

1245
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 4: I think that you know, Eric Andrews really nailed it

1246
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 4: earlier when way you were interviewing him saying that you know,

1247
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 4: the athletic skills, the speed component, the footwork component was

1248
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 4: a big part of Macheta's game. As you get older,

1249
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 4: that tends to leave you. That's one of the early

1250
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 4: things that leave you in the career. In your career,

1251
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 4: and I think for Macheta, he doesn't quite have that

1252
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 4: same kind of sense of urgency that he had in

1253
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 4: the past.

1254
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 3: He doesn't have that same kind of speed or power.

1255
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: I think Andrews is going to be able to make

1256
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 3: it a nasty fight. I think that's what he needs

1257
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: to do.

1258
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 4: He needs to kind of get away from being as

1259
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 4: technical here in this fight against Macheta, make it a brawl,

1260
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 4: get in the pocket and landed one of those big

1261
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 4: shots on my cheat Macheta.

1262
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: I think Andrews gets the win. Here.

1263
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: You going TKO submission and around if you want the

1264
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: extra point. If not, we are fine with that too.

1265
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, let's go with Let's go with the knockout

1266
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 4: in round one?

1267
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: All right, TKO round one four? Eric Anders the official

1268
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: pick for the flow. Don't tell his buddy Machieta that

1269
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: he went round one if you're listening, all right, quick

1270
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: picks here on the way out. Kicking off the main

1271
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: cart of middleweight. Good fight here, Tiago Maheta, Santo's Anthony

1272
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: Lyonheart Smith. Both guys have won three straight. Will you

1273
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: going with Santos or Smith?

1274
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 8: I like smith Man, He's gonna keep the momentum off

1275
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 8: his last big win. A lumbard here, all.

1276
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: Right, will's going with the American Ken flow? You're going

1277
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: with Maheta or Anthony Smith.

1278
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Santos.

1279
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 4: Actually, Anthony Smith is very resilient, but I think Santos

1280
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 4: gets the win.

1281
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: All right.

1282
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: Next up at lightweight, Michelle Prizadas versus Desmond Green. Michelle

1283
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: Prizadish is twenty three and two. He's won five in

1284
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: a row, last two by North South Choke. What does

1285
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: a guy have to do to get a number next

1286
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: to his name. I'm not exactly sure or will you

1287
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: like Prizetas?

1288
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 6: Here?

1289
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: Are you're going with Desmond Green in the upset?

1290
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Prizetas. Kenny is probably gonna

1291
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 8: pick me apart from my terrible pronunciation there, but this

1292
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 8: guy counted Man also kind of flying under the radar.

1293
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, man twenty three and two. Kid, What do you

1294
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: think Kenny, Prizetas or Desmond Green?

1295
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: Now you got it? You got it? Will Yeah? No,

1296
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 3: I think Preseras gets the win.

1297
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 4: I was really impressed when we called his debut back

1298
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 4: in the day in Brazil.

1299
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 3: I think Presire's goes on to get the winner.

1300
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: Guys built like a goddamn Fia hydrant guard feature bout here,

1301
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: guys at flyweight. I'll give you a little bit of background.

1302
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: So Valentina Chevchenko back for the first time since she

1303
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: went five rounds in what was a Band of Way

1304
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: title fight against Amanda Nonz last September. That was a

1305
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: split decision lost. One of the judges thought she beat Amanda.

1306
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: So here she draws the newcomer Brazilian Priscilla Kachoetta Kachoeeda

1307
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: undefeated eight no so her first three pro fights went

1308
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: the full fifteen minutes. Since though, she has knockouts in

1309
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: four of her last five. So in theory, as the

1310
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: competition has improved, so has Kachuweita. I think she is

1311
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: starting to really develop. The question is, I mean, will

1312
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: you can't take her against Chef Chenko or can you?

1313
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: Because maybe the betting line figures to be pretty pronounced.

1314
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 8: No, man, it's too early. I'm not going to fuck

1315
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 8: this up for Team Mannik, but they're throwing her to

1316
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 8: the world here. Man. I mean, you know, she's got

1317
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 8: some momentum behind her, but she's only been fighting for

1318
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 8: less than two years with one amateur fight. I think

1319
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 8: this is too much too soon in Valentina. It just

1320
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 8: keeps building her her way up to another shot at

1321
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 8: the Belfon.

1322
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: See Kenny, depending on what the line is.

1323
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 3: Right.

1324
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: As we talked about Jordan Ronaldi last week, I mean,

1325
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: maybe you don't want to make that mistake twice, right,

1326
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: but like if Kachueita, you know it might be like

1327
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: a six pointer versus getting one for Chef Chenko. All

1328
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: of that said, I'd imagine Valentina is the pick for you, sir.

1329
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1330
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: Uh don't text you if it's like plus six seventy

1331
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: five or something.

1332
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 3: Yes, don't go. Chasing Kashowi cush away in Brazil means waterfall.

1333
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go. Yeah, it does. I'm not gonna

1334
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 3: go with the waterfall here, though, I'm gonna go. I mean,

1335
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: how do I.

1336
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 4: Pick against Valentina Chefchenko. She's an amazing striker. This other

1337
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 4: girl likes a strike. I think Shiftchenko really doesn't. Her

1338
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 4: defense is really solid, she really doesn't put herself out there.

1339
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 4: And again she's representing Peru. Man, I mean, I gotta

1340
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 4: go with shift Chenko.

1341
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: Gotta go.

1342
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 3: He picks Enrique Barzola blindly as well.

1343
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: All right, Will Coggan, thank you for the time today, man,

1344
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: thank you for coming up and introducing yourself in Charlotte.

1345
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: Pleasure to talk to you. Did a fine job today.

1346
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: We'll certainly have you back and keep us posted on

1347
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: the fighting career as well, my man.

1348
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, thanks so much, And just want to get

1349
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 8: a quick shout out to the gym here and Charlotte

1350
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 8: Team Rock. Jordan Ronaldi trading partner, had to rough go

1351
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 8: with things, but I'm the kids, just dub man. He's

1352
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 8: going to be back, and I appreciate you guys having

1353
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 8: me only thanks.

1354
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: So much anytime.

1355
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: Man, all right, Will Coggan on the Main Event Challenge

1356
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: repping team Annik. You guys can call long ago while

1357
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: you're doing that. Part of the Main Event Challenge. This

1358
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: week's Super Bowl predictions, and I just want to get

1359
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: this down for the record, so we're not going against

1360
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: the spread. Kenny, just need to know for the record

1361
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: who you are picking to win the game, New England

1362
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: Patriots or the Philadelphia Eagles. If you pick the Eagles

1363
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: and they win, it's two points because they're the underdog.

1364
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: If you pick the Patriots, it's just one which way

1365
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 2: you're going.

1366
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 3: Well, maybe my football pick will be better than my

1367
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 3: MMVA picks lately. I'm gonna go with the Patriots.

1368
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 2: Come on, man, you know this, you know so Kenny's

1369
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: going with the Patriots.

1370
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: I'm a little worried about this Eagles defense though.

1371
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 4: Dude, these guys they've been on fire in the playoffs,

1372
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 4: obviously extremely motivated, but you know, in the big game,

1373
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 4: you think I'm gonna pick against my Pats?

1374
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, all right, well I hope you're right.

1375
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 2: I'm taking Philadelphia. I'm taking the five points and I'll

1376
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 2: take the value here on the money line at plus

1377
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: one nine. I don't feel good about it. I really

1378
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: hope to be wrong, but I just think they have

1379
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: the type of team that can score thirty points. They

1380
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: also have the head coach who understands he's not going

1381
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 2: to beat the Patriots by getting to twenty as the

1382
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars did if ago. I think Philadelphia is very,

1383
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: very solid one through forty five, and I think they're

1384
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: going to give the Patriots a close game, if not

1385
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: win it late. I like the kicker as well. All

1386
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: of that said, let's go Pats. All right, one final

1387
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: order of business. Ray Longo minute. Let's get to it.

1388
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

1389
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 9: And I'm going to punch a hole in this fucking subs.

1390
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted, the Ray Longo Minute. During the

1391
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast.

1392
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: Ray Longo now joined us, as he does every week.

1393
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: I apologize for keeping you on hold there for a

1394
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: few minutes. I was at the Charlotte Hornets game on

1395
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: on Friday night, and I was in a suite. I

1396
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 2: could see Wideman Scar all the way from the suite.

1397
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: He was sitting down on the floor.

1398
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1399
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 9: Oh, unbelievable. Unbelievable, I'm telling you, doctor Baron von Frankenstein.

1400
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. So so since we last spoke, a

1401
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: super fight has been announced. I'm not sure if you're

1402
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: a with me calling it that, but the UFC Heavyweight

1403
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: Champion step A Miachich is going to defend July seventh

1404
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 2: against the UFC Light Heavyweight Champion, Daniel Cormier. And I

1405
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: think public opinion really differs as to how competitive this

1406
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 2: fight is going to be. We talked about it a

1407
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: little bit last week. Just wanted to open with that

1408
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: and get your thoughts on your expectation for this heavyweight

1409
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 2: championship fight between steep A and DC.

1410
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 9: I definitely think it qualifies as a super fight for sure. Yeah,

1411
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 9: you got two guys that are both pretty dominant in

1412
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 9: what they do. And you got to remember DC as

1413
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 9: a heavyweight, he was wreckoning people at Strikeforce, you know,

1414
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 9: before he came over, so he's you know, that might

1415
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 9: be his natural weight class anyway. So that's that's a

1416
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 9: really great fight. I think that was great that they

1417
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 9: put that together, especially the timing of it. They both

1418
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 9: came off, you know, really good wins together. So yeah,

1419
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 9: why not?

1420
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: You know, people were up in arms. You were curious

1421
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 3: criticizing a gano a little bid. Well what did you

1422
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 3: think about this? People were?

1423
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 9: You know, I tell you I forgot all about that,

1424
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 9: but I want to retouch on some Yeah, I'm glad

1425
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 9: you brought that up, Kenny.

1426
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 3: Yes, those are only fatigues you have. Just sure you

1427
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: know the reserves.

1428
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 4: You know, I go to these victed shops every once

1429
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 4: in a while, I get a cool shirt.

1430
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 9: I'm liking the look. You look like a San Denista

1431
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 9: rebels right now.

1432
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 3: I know, I kind of looked like if I had

1433
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 3: that hat on, you know what I mean?

1434
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 4: You like that castro that's castor Yeah maybe yeah, g have.

1435
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 9: A nice cigar and that hat and uh, excellent stuff.

1436
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 6: You know what.

1437
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 9: Let's get back to when I think, I'm glad you

1438
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 9: brought up because I wanted to address it and I

1439
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 9: forgot about it already because my mind is shot. But uh,

1440
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 9: you know, first off is the fight. I'm not taking

1441
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 9: away from the fight. I want to clarify one thing.

1442
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 9: The fight was exciting, that's the first thing. And and

1443
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 9: he could have ended that fight at any given point

1444
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 9: in time, but the question was posed at one seventy.

1445
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 9: I think with the point you were trying to make

1446
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 9: if he didn't have the size factor, because with that

1447
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 9: weight anything can happen. Sure with the skill set at

1448
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 9: a lower weight where size were taken out as a

1449
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 9: dominant factor, that was the problem. It was a really

1450
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 9: constructive criticism. This guy's huge. If he puts the right

1451
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 9: work in. Yeah he could be a champion. This guy

1452
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 9: if he shows the right mindset and he gets back

1453
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 9: into it. But yeah, people went a little crazy. It

1454
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 9: wasn't I think it was the one seventy pound thing

1455
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 9: tricked him. But I still enjoyed the fight. It was exciting.

1456
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 9: Steep A definitely had to be careful. I don't think

1457
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 9: anybody could take too many punches from this guy, and

1458
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 9: at that weight, those are the things that could happen.

1459
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 9: But if he doesn't have that size advantage and he's

1460
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 9: at one seventy, I think it's pretty clear to see

1461
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 9: that he needs work in a couple of areas. That's

1462
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 9: all that was.

1463
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 6: That was it.

1464
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 9: I don't even think it was like harsh criticism, but yeah,

1465
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 9: I think we got was it me or was it

1466
01:05:59,400 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 9: both of us.

1467
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 3: Both, oh, both of us.

1468
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 4: Both of us got thrown under the I mean, people

1469
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 4: were going nuts on tour, so I wanted to give

1470
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 4: you an opportunity.

1471
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 9: Agree with that.

1472
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 3: I think that Yeah, no, absolutely exactly.

1473
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 9: I think at that size, you know, guy's three hundred pounds,

1474
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 9: you can't stand there and get hit by the guy.

1475
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 9: He's swinging. But you know, if you think that's you know,

1476
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 9: proper technique swinging from your ass, then you gotta put

1477
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 9: then it's a problem. We're we're not hate on the

1478
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 9: guy at.

1479
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 3: All, exactly exactly.

1480
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 9: And I tell you what we're saying, get get get better.

1481
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 3: That's it.

1482
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 9: Just get get better period. I think if he if

1483
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 9: he's smarts, that it's that. What's that saying, win or

1484
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 9: learn or whatever. He has to learn now and he

1485
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 9: has to go back and if he tightens up some

1486
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 9: stuff and he could definitely do it. He seems like

1487
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 9: a physical specimen. Uh you know, that was it. And

1488
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 9: I mean I and I criticized his endurance because he

1489
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 9: really didn't have anything in the guests tank. And even

1490
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 9: with that being said, he could have still landed a

1491
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 9: punch and won that fight, you know what I mean.

1492
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 9: So we're almost complimenting him also, you know what I

1493
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 9: mean that he's got that type of fish, the caality

1494
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 9: that he could do that with a lesser skill set.

1495
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: Yep, right, he didn't even fully he didn't even fully

1496
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: connect against Alistair over him. And look what fucking happens,

1497
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1498
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 9: It wasn't a thing. It's just like I think they

1499
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 9: they hype them up a little prematurely, and you know

1500
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 9: that stuff. You know, that's where it gets crazy. Man mentally,

1501
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 9: it breaks you down. You know, it's you've seen it

1502
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 9: happen with like even Phelipe Nova, who I you know,

1503
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 9: I like he's a great kid, but you know, to

1504
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 9: say he's the next Anderson Silva, I don't even think

1505
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 9: he wants that set about himself, you know what I mean.

1506
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 9: Put a lot of pressure on him and then you know,

1507
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 9: you got you got to live up to that. And

1508
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 9: you know, you know the guys that I think deserve

1509
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 9: that are the guys that come in with the accolades.

1510
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 9: They're a division one All American you know national champ

1511
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 9: or you know heavyweight boxing champ or you know tie boxing.

1512
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 9: You know something that you could hang your hat on,

1513
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 9: and when you don't have any of those pedigrees. I

1514
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 9: think it's a big you know, it's a big, big

1515
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 9: step to take to to hype these because then when

1516
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 9: they fall, they don't get it, you know what I mean?

1517
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 9: Because they fight sometimes they buy into their own press,

1518
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 9: and I don't even think it's fair to them, to be.

1519
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 3: Honest with you.

1520
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: So let's say Francis and Ganu beat Stepe right, then

1521
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: Daniel Cormier is staying at light heavyweight. Who knows what

1522
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: they do at heavyweight? Right, But this sort of happened

1523
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 2: because the timing was right. Step A beat Francis and

1524
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: who knows, maybe Kane wasn't ready. But if Daniel had

1525
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: stayed at light heavyweight, Ray the next fight was going

1526
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 2: to be a rematch with Alexander Gustofson. In my opinion,

1527
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 2: no picnic at all. We've talked about that a little

1528
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: bit today. Do you think it's just an absolute slam

1529
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 2: dunk that the steep A fight is more difficult for

1530
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: Daniel than a rematch with Gustifson would have been, Or

1531
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 2: is you know the Gustimson fight comparable? I mean, I know,

1532
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 2: you know, it's not without its dangers, But I'm getting

1533
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,520
Speaker 2: killed for suggesting that maybe Augustafson fight is just as dangerous,

1534
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 2: if not more so, than a Meo Chich fight would be.

1535
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 3: For DC.

1536
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I think the difference though John is

1537
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 9: that he's already been in there with Gusterson, you know

1538
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 9: what I mean. So there's that factor is gone. Steve

1539
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 9: Ay really doesn't know until he gets in there. So

1540
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 9: you have that whole dynamic of you know, the unexpected,

1541
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 9: you know, like what could happen. We kind of know

1542
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 9: what happened in the first fight. It was obviously a

1543
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 9: great fight, and just Gusterson looks like he's made some adjustments,

1544
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 9: and you know know, Daniel could be Look the guys,

1545
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 9: he's a he's a bad mffort man. This kid comes

1546
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 9: to fight, love his mindset, and he might be happy

1547
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 9: and not making the weight, you know what I mean.

1548
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 9: He doesn't have to pull down on the towel. He

1549
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 9: doesn't you know, he's gonna do that. He might he

1550
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 9: might be be happy, you know what I mean. So

1551
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 9: I'm not really sure how to answer that, but I think, uh,

1552
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 9: you know, in his mind, probably making the weight at

1553
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 9: this point is starting to really get old, you know

1554
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 9: what I mean. I mean, he's not a kid anymore.

1555
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 9: But obviously he's got the accolades and he's a disciplined guy.

1556
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 9: He's proven that in his past everything. So yeah, I

1557
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 9: don't I don't know. I mean, Steve A's not a

1558
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 9: picnic man. Steep A's in there. It's a great fight.

1559
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 9: I think they did the right thing by making that fight.

1560
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did too, And I mean no disrespect to

1561
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 2: Steve A.

1562
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 3: Miachic.

1563
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of that, and I could have

1564
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: asked you in a more concise way. I just think

1565
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: it's a very interesting conversation. All right, I'll get you

1566
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 2: out on this. Does your NFL boycott end for the

1567
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 2: Super Bowl or you among the few Americans who will

1568
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 2: not be watching.

1569
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 9: I'll be uh, I'll be in a private room saluting

1570
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 9: the flag the two hours for those guys. I don't

1571
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 9: think I'm gonna hold it through.

1572
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 6: I'm weird.

1573
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 9: I'm very weird. I need to see at least two

1574
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 9: years of these guys doing the national anthem with the

1575
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 9: right passion and the right pride before I go back to.

1576
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 6: Watching that sport.

1577
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 2: You're you're the best, man, That's why you're the greatest.

1578
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 2: America is just honored to have you as part of

1579
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: the citizen ry?

1580
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, well you know I have to say that

1581
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 9: because I'm actually staring at little Fidel Castro right now.

1582
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 9: So I feel like.

1583
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 4: Communism is coming, man, Yeah, I really do. This is

1584
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 4: an American Army shirts. Just so make sure everybody knows this.

1585
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 9: Okay, I tell you you're a Sandsta.

1586
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 2: See how Ray helps our video ratings without even trying.

1587
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 2: The guy's unbelievable. All right, Ray Long a minute every

1588
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 2: week here on the Anakin Form podcast. I hope you

1589
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 2: your two hours in the hotel room goes well. We'll

1590
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: be watching the game and we look forward to talking

1591
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 2: to you again in seven days, my friend, Thank you

1592
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: as always.

1593
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 9: Awesome man, Taking easy guys.

1594
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 3: Here, Ray Long ago minute.

1595
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: Oh man, See he don't even know the Super Bowl

1596
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 2: questions coming, and he's just ready to just fucking fire guys.

1597
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

1598
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 2: All right, we got to get out of here. Uh,

1599
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want Felder at my house, like

1600
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to text him right now this flight, and

1601
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do.

1602
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 3: What if you just what if you just.

1603
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 4: Like you had a cell phone, like he could watch

1604
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 4: it on his phone outside of your house, just like connecting.

1605
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 4: You give him the Wi Fi password, he stays outside

1606
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 4: and just watching the game.

1607
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 8: One.

1608
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 3: That's good. That's good.

1609
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 2: I think it was against my better judgment to even

1610
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: invite him. But when he told me he was going

1611
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: to miss the game, it's not like the Eagles are

1612
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 2: there every year, I felt I felt badly for him.

1613
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,839
Speaker 2: And when you hear him talk about watching his Eagles

1614
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: on Wi Fi, I just felt like I.

1615
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 3: Would have no beer for him either.

1616
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: By the way, certainly not certainly not obviously right, they'll

1617
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 2: start flirting.

1618
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: With my mom.

1619
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, folks, Jesus Christ, I'm kidding, all right. So,

1620
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: and just to make it official, my Super Bowl bet

1621
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: with Brian stan Kenny is not involved. The loser gets

1622
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 2: one of your pierced video evidence required. Losers got to

1623
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 2: keep it in for ten days and the stud or

1624
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 2: the hoop, whatever it is has to be of a

1625
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: reasonable size and preapproved by the winner before it actually

1626
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,839
Speaker 2: gets pierced, So that is on the record.

1627
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 3: It's too good, dude.

1628
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: And oh, if Steven has to walk in has to

1629
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 2: be a hop, it has to be a hoop.

1630
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 3: I think pirate, like one of those pirate rings.

1631
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 2: Imagine Stan walking into First Key Homes LLC with like

1632
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: a big hooker.

1633
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 3: Like a long ass feather, like a mister T feather

1634
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 3: would be so good.

1635
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 2: He always has these in the email. The leg waxing

1636
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 2: was his idea. The ear piercing is his idea. I

1637
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 2: don't know if he's trying to tell us something. Yeah,

1638
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: he has three daughters. Brian. If you want to go

1639
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 2: get a manny petty dude on your own dime, on

1640
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: your own time, it's.

1641
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 3: Okay, exactly, you don't need to do it.

1642
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: Bet well right, I mean, my gosh, it's like anything.

1643
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 3: We love him.

1644
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna love Yeah, we're gonna love it. Suggestion, Yeah,

1645
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: let's get our ears piers job. Okay, bro okay, all right,

1646
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 2: we got to get out of here. Thank you to

1647
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 2: our guests, Eric Anders, Paul Felder Ray long ago. We'll

1648
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 2: cogg it on the picks. Of course, we are back

1649
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: with you again next Monday.

1650
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 5: Uh.

1651
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 2: We'll either be celebrating I guess a six Super Bowl

1652
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: championship four then New England Patriots, or I'll be I

1653
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 2: guess making an appointment to get to get my ear pierced.

1654
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 2: May Rocky BJJ May ROCKYBJJ dot com, m E r

1655
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: a kibjj dot com. School is going really well, Jason

1656
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 2: Hunt and Ken Flow holding the down kid looks pretty good.

1657
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 2: Those executive classes still open seven am.

1658
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Tuesdays and Thursday, so you can go early.

1659
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 4: We're adding classes all the time, man, So the school

1660
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 4: is growing.

1661
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 3: We've been been blessed.

1662
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 2: Men, And tell Stan you don't need an executive MBA

1663
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 2: to participate in those seven am exactly.

1664
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 3: He's more welcome.

1665
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, because he doesn't have it yet.

1666
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 3: That's good.

1667
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: Next week also all of Kenny's picks for the upcoming

1668
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: pay per view in perth UFC two twenty one on Saturday,

1669
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: February the tenth. All right with that for the flow,

1670
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: our whole team at Fox Sports, thank you all very kindly.

1671
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm John Anna. Thank you all for listening for watching. Sincerely,

1672
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: we will talk to you in one week's time. Until then,

1673
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Speaker 2: go pats Yola.

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1691
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