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Speaker 1: This.

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Speaker 2: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 3: How the heck are you doing on a Friday. It's

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Speaker 3: a football Friday. Everybody gets psyched home games Sunday. Let's

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Speaker 3: God's go, Oh my gosh, I feel the anticipation.

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Speaker 4: It's palpable.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to a Friday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 3: Steve Tasker with you. We're a little off the chain,

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Speaker 3: and that's okay as far as I'm concerned. So we'll

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Speaker 3: get you set for Bill's Raiders and right out of

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Speaker 3: the shoot. One of the more noteworthy things to pass

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Speaker 3: along to you is the fact that wide receiver Jacobe Myers,

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Speaker 3: free agent addition in the offseason for the Raiders, who,

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Speaker 3: by the way, had two touchdown receptions last week in

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Speaker 3: the win over the Broncos, remains in concussion protocol today

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Speaker 3: and is deemed doubtful to play against the Bills on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: He was the most targeted receiver by Jimmy Garoppolo nine

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Speaker 3: receptions eighty one yards, and as I mentioned, the two

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Speaker 3: receiving touchdowns the only two touchdowns scored by the Raiders

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Speaker 3: last week. I mean DeVante Adams was involved. Don't get

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Speaker 3: me wrong, you know, six catches sixty six yards, But

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Speaker 3: there seems to be there seemed to be an early

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Speaker 3: rapport between Garoppolo and Myers, and so that looks like

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Speaker 3: it's not going to be part of the equation for

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Speaker 3: the Bills defense to be concerned with this week. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm taking Devonte Adams over Jacoby Myers one hundred times

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Speaker 3: out of one hundred. The guy's an unbelievable receiver. So

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Speaker 3: the better of their two wideouts will be on the

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Speaker 3: field on Sunday. But Myers, with the production he put

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Speaker 3: up last week, is probably a welcome subtraction from that roster,

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Speaker 3: knowing that his likelihood of getting out of the protocol

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Speaker 3: between now and Sunday is unlikely. Even head coach Josh

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Speaker 3: McDaniels said as much today, So that would be a

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Speaker 3: loss for their lineup. Really, the good news is the

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Speaker 3: Bills are in really good shape knock on wood health wise.

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Speaker 3: As we mentioned earlier this week, Mitch Morse is the

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Speaker 3: only player on the Bills injury report and he's full

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Speaker 3: go despite a finger injury, So all systems go, it appears,

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Speaker 3: going into Sunday's game. So that's good news, and I

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Speaker 3: was looking up a number Steve josh Allen against the

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Speaker 3: AFC WET. Some people might think it could be a

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Speaker 3: mixed bag of production in light of the fact that

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Speaker 3: they've played the Chiefs so many darn times. O contraire.

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Speaker 3: In eight career games against the AFC West, Steve josh

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Speaker 3: Allen has a six and two record. He has thrown

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Speaker 3: for two thousand yards, sixteen touchdowns and a one oh

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Speaker 3: one point eight passer ratings.

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Speaker 4: So the only two losses are to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: He has also rushed hold on for two hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty five yards and five touchdowns, so twenty one total

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Speaker 3: touchdowns in eight games against the AFC West. Meliki.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's two point five a game, and that does

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Speaker 4: count the two Chiefs games they've lost over there, right,

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Speaker 4: because so he hasn't been beaten by any other team

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Speaker 4: in the AFC West.

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Speaker 3: Well, he lost to the Chargers in his first career

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Speaker 3: start in twenty eighteen or twenty eight season starts then right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're talking about regular season games here, Okay, Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: he lost one to the Chargers. I do know that,

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Speaker 3: and I'll have to I would have to dig through

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Speaker 3: the other seven.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember, oh.

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Speaker 3: The twenty twenty loss to the Chiefs here in front

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Speaker 4: Does Josh mc Does Josh McDaniel change it for you?

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Speaker 4: Change what the thought about how good the Raiders can

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Speaker 4: Patriots and all that. Yeggey yigity.

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Speaker 3: The reason the reason I think the Bills are going

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: They did have a nice performance against the Broncos last

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Speaker 4: Road point on the road, same performance Bills did.

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Speaker 3: But I think we also have to remember the Broncos

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Speaker 3: are playing a completely completely new offensive system. They're receiving

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Speaker 3: last week for the Raiders. They had one pass breakup.

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Speaker 3: One that's not good. How do you how is that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they pass it around. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: I was I was stunned by that number. Maybe I

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Speaker 3: Maybe the stat guy was like he fell asleep in

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Speaker 3: But I mean it's not like they didn't throw the ball.

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson through thirty four passes. You wight how many

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Speaker 3: They kept everything in front of him. Listen to this,

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Speaker 3: So Russell Wilson completes twenty seven passes for one hundred

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Speaker 4: Toys, man, that's yeah, that's not good. Not too good.

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Speaker 3: That's not good.

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Speaker 4: I was looking a lot of shorts. I was looking

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Speaker 4: in Week one of the NFL season, the NFL team

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Speaker 4: or The AFC team anyway that ran the fewest offensive

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Speaker 4: only team the team that ran the fewest offensive plays

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Speaker 4: for the entire weekend was the Seattle Seahawks. They ran

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: Then you get at the other end last night Philly

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Speaker 4: and Minnesota. Minnesota had one hundred and eighteen plays. Philly

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Speaker 4: Thirty six plays.

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Speaker 4: Hundred, two hundred and fifty four plays in that game.

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Speaker 4: How does that happen? Yeah, incomplete passes, a lot of stoppages.

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Speaker 3: I was there was a small part of me that

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Speaker 3: felt bad for Kirk Cousins last night. I mean, those

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Speaker 3: it's cost them in both of their games. Because their

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But the Eagles, man, what did they have two hundred

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Speaker 3: runs for a buck seventy five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm wondering if there is a rejuvenation of

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Speaker 4: Steve Well, you know, we've thought about it for a

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Speaker 3: Because we're going to see it on Sunday, all.

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Speaker 4: These defenders, these defenses are starting to like load up

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Speaker 4: the pendulum swings back. We saw it with Tennessee. They

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Speaker 4: They were pounding people. I don't know that the pendulum's

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Speaker 4: cloud of dust football, you know what I mean? But

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Speaker 4: you look, I don't know. I just think this is

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Speaker 4: there's always going to be some team who gets into

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh man, you can't stop those guys. You

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Speaker 4: to find here where the Philly there it is right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they rushed for one hundred and seventy eight yards last night,

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Speaker 4: four point eighty six per play. Wait, the Eagles, Philly.

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Speaker 3: They ran for more than that, didn't they.

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Speaker 4: That's what it says. One hundred and eight And then

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Speaker 4: they ran through for three forty total yards, one hundred

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Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty two passing yards. So they ran

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Speaker 4: it for more than they threw it. That's an aberration.

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Speaker 3: Not with that team.

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Speaker 5: It isn't.

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Speaker 4: Well maybe not because they got some. They got some.

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Speaker 4: They got some big dudes up front on both sides

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Speaker 3: They ran for two hundred and fifty nine yards last night.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm looking right here rushing yards on NFL. Jesus,

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Speaker 4: what am I missing?

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Speaker 3: They averaged five point four per carry last night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that was I'm on the season rankings, not the

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Speaker 3: But that's hurts through for one ninety three.

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Speaker 4: We're getting to the point where we're so informed about

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Speaker 4: maybe they've been there for a long time, we just

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Speaker 4: never noticed it. Quality big dudes are hard to find everywhere,

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Speaker 4: and when a team gets a bunch like Philly's done

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Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball. Got a great offensive line,

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Speaker 3: Jokers, Jalen Carter, Jordan Jordans.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they got their immense and their Fletcher Cocks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: This was the interesting thing though. Okay, so they run

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Speaker 3: for two fifty nine, right, They hold on to the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but you know what, they were up

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Speaker 4: At the end, they were up twenty seven to seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And I'm telling you it's a real thing. It hurts

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Speaker 4: gonna take a break right.

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Speaker 3: Here and take a break on this series.

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Speaker 4: Everybody does it. And all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 4: just you let up and that's all it takes. That's

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Speaker 4: all it takes. And Philly just, you know, and they're like,

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Speaker 3: They don't have jackets for six six, three hundred and

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Speaker 3: Yeah that because Jimmy Garoppolo was getting teased about it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you had to wear a jacket to run upstairs

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Speaker 3: That sounds I want to be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's it's hard to look big in an industry

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're just yeah, you got to handle guys

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Speaker 4: off season to get back at it.

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Speaker 3: Like he could conceivably be back easily by April, right

440
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Speaker 3: because he's got half a September, October, November, December. I

441
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Speaker 3: mean that's three and a half right there. I mean,

442
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Speaker 3: he could be good as gold by the end of March.

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Speaker 4: Right April for sure, if that's the case. If that

444
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Speaker 4: is indeed the timeline, everybody's different. I was unaware of

445
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Speaker 4: that procedure why does it I'm sorry I chuckled. I

446
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Speaker 4: got a lot of respect for Aaron Rodgers and what

447
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Speaker 4: he's done, but it just struck me as so apropos

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Speaker 4: that he would go for an alternate procedure.

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Speaker 3: Well, apparently it's it's not terribly new. I'm trying to

450
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Speaker 3: think of the other player who had the procedure done,

451
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Speaker 3: and it was only like, oh, it was it was,

452
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Speaker 3: It wasn't Brady. Brady did go out to get his

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Speaker 3: knee done by that same doctor.

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Speaker 4: This is like twenty years after Kobe Bryant had his

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Speaker 4: achilles done, right, I mean.

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Speaker 3: This is yes, but I believe he did do Kobe's

457
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Speaker 3: So Kobe Bryant had his achilles done by this same

458
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Speaker 3: LA doctor and he basically called. The story is Kobe

459
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Speaker 3: called this doctor and said, I need you to do

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Speaker 3: me tomorrow. Clear, clear your schedule, like, which means money

461
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Speaker 3: was going to be no object. He'll pay him whatever.

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Speaker 3: How much money are you making on all your surgeries tomorrow? Okay,

463
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Speaker 3: I'll pay you that you're doing me tomorrow. Move everybody

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Speaker 3: else around. I gotta get this fixed. But he had

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Speaker 3: it done by him. Also, you know, you can say

466
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Speaker 3: what you want Kobe's return, he clearly wasn't the same player,

467
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Speaker 3: but he was near the end of his career anyway.

468
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Speaker 3: But I just found that very interesting that suddenly there

469
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Speaker 3: is a procedure that can cut the rehabilitation time in

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Speaker 3: half essentially, I mean, member more than half.

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Speaker 4: Really. Yeah, it's they're always working at it, and I

472
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Speaker 4: know now that when they do joint replacements, got people

473
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Speaker 4: are on their feet walking out of the hospital in

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Speaker 4: ninety minutes. Yeah, I mean that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Something to keep an eye on on the horizon for

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Speaker 3: next week's game, Steve. We know the defensive front that

477
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Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders have for for more than a year now,

478
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Speaker 3: they have been without their former number two overall pick,

479
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Speaker 3: Chase Young. He has finally been completely cleared. He is

480
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Speaker 3: going to be active this week for the Commanders for

481
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Speaker 3: the first time in a while, So we'll see how

482
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Speaker 3: he looks in their game this week. But provided everything

483
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Speaker 3: goes well, well, he'll be suiting up next week against

484
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Speaker 3: the Bills. So maybe just a guy you want to

485
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Speaker 3: kind of keep an eye on, yeah, because you know

486
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Speaker 3: he's been out for over a season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was Hey, that guy could he can go? Yeah?

488
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Speaker 3: And Ron Rivera basically said that Chase Young will be

489
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Speaker 3: on a pitch count this week for sure, you would

490
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Speaker 3: assume that might even be the case next week.

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Speaker 4: I want to change this before we go. Did you

492
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Speaker 4: see that? You know, Philadelphia Minnesota game last night? We've

493
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Speaker 4: been talking about almost I can't remember what we said

494
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Speaker 4: about it here on this show tonight. Did you see

495
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Speaker 4: and it always comes up the play where Justin Jefferson

496
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Speaker 4: going in, tried to extend for the end zone. The

497
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Speaker 4: ball comes loose outside of the end zone, goes through

498
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Speaker 4: the end zone, inside the pilon and out the side

499
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Speaker 4: of the end zone.

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Speaker 3: Dumb rule.

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Speaker 4: Why.

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Speaker 3: I just think I don't think the punishment fits the crime.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 4: What should happen?

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Speaker 3: What do you think? Tell me what you think of this?

507
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Speaker 3: They fumble the ball through the end zone, they don't

508
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Speaker 3: lose possession, but it goes back to the twenty five

509
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Speaker 3: yard line.

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Speaker 5: What do you think of that?

511
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Speaker 3: That team retains possession but back to the twenty five

512
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Speaker 3: even if they're at the one.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, what if they well what if they threw it?

514
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Speaker 4: You know what if it's a ninety nine yard pass

515
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Speaker 4: and that doesn't matter to you. Yeah, what if Gabe

516
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Speaker 4: Davis would have done that last year on the Pittsburgh Steelers'

517
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Speaker 4: first third down, Instead of a ninety eight yard touchdown,

518
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Speaker 4: it's a seventy three yard touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Now, I still think I still think I'd stick it

520
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Speaker 3: as to twenty five, which I don't think.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of arbitrary.

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Speaker 3: Well it was. I mean, in almost every instance, the

523
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Speaker 3: player is a threat to score, and that happens. I

524
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Speaker 3: don't I don't know that you should because if the

525
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Speaker 3: ball goes over the sideline at the one yard line,

526
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Speaker 3: they get it at the one yard line. Why do

527
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Speaker 3: you lose possession if it goes through the opponent's end zone.

528
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Speaker 3: I don't know. It just seems it seems you go

529
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Speaker 3: from one extreme to the other far too quickly for

530
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Speaker 3: a one yard difference. That that's the thing that doesn't

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Speaker 3: compute for me. I don't know if that's the best.

532
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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know.

533
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Speaker 3: Alternative.

534
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Speaker 4: Here's the problem. Here's the problem.

535
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Speaker 3: You you fumble the ball out of bounce anywhere else

536
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Speaker 3: besides your own end zone, well it comes back to

537
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Speaker 3: it comes back to the point where you fumbled it.

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Speaker 4: There's no advancing a loss fumble out of bounds.

539
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Speaker 3: Do you still retain possession?

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Speaker 4: Yes, you do, and that doesn't happen on that play

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Speaker 4: for some reason. Really, why do you feel differently or

542
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Speaker 4: I don't know. No, I don't have a problem with Do.

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Speaker 3: You think it's too punitive A little bit?

544
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit. I know. It's one of those

545
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: quirky rules that it's in there for a reason. And

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Speaker 4: the problem is this, and they say, well, why don't

547
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Speaker 4: you just be and some you know, everybody's coming up

548
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: with these Like us, we're trying to figure out a

549
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Speaker 4: better way. And I don't know that it's easy. You

550
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: want to punt it if they you can't let them

551
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 4: fumble the ball and then have something good happen to them, right, well,

552
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Speaker 4: and it's got to be consequently, it can't be now.

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Speaker 4: I get the fact that it comes back to the

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Speaker 4: point where they fumbled first down or whatever down and

555
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Speaker 4: distance it should be. If it's third and goal and

556
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Speaker 4: they fumble it out of the side of the end zone,

557
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Speaker 4: it can still be. It can be fourth and goal

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Speaker 4: from the spot where he fumbled it. You know that

559
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Speaker 4: kind of thing. I don't know where that rule evolved from,

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Speaker 4: except that you don't want guys to deliberately fumble the

561
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Speaker 4: ball into the end zone, whether you can recover it

562
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Speaker 4: or not. You don't want to incentivize somebody not controlling

563
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Speaker 4: the football, right, But.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that does because because what you're doing

565
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Speaker 3: is you're backing them up twenty five yards. And what

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Speaker 3: I would do is I would not change whatever the

567
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Speaker 3: down was. It's the next play. So if you do

568
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Speaker 3: that on third down, you fumble it through the end zone,

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Speaker 3: you got it on the twenty five fourth down, kick

570
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Speaker 3: the field goal or forget it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I get the down the same you got play happened.

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Speaker 3: Now it's whatever down it was. Now it's the next

574
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Speaker 3: down at the twenty five. Go get them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard because whenever you go start going through this,

576
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Speaker 4: you got to you start rolling through a rollodex of

577
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Speaker 4: situations that have happened, and the ripple effects are a

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Speaker 4: real thing. An unintended consequences are what you got to

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Speaker 4: think about. So we can, we'll put that on Twitter

580
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Speaker 4: poll next week. I want to see what people come

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Speaker 4: up with.

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Speaker 3: We got to take a break here, but before we do,

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Speaker 3: we need to remind you that if these walls could talk,

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Speaker 3: Stories from the Buffalo Sideline, locker Room and pressbox, written

585
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Speaker 3: now and to launch the new book, there will be

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Speaker 3: five pm on Saturday, September sixteenth, that's tomorrow, the day

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Speaker 3: before the home opener. In addition to John, former Bill's

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl Center and current color analyst Eric Wood will

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Speaker 3: purchase that day will be autographed by all three three

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Speaker 3: to five pm tomorrow at the Bill's Store. We got

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Speaker 3: to take a break because when we come back, we've

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Speaker 3: got this week's Legend of the Game with us. Mister

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Speaker 3: Taquio Spikes coming your way. Next Here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 3: presented by Colid of Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 3: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 3: on a Friday, and it is time to introduce you

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Speaker 3: to this week's legend of the game. Who's going to

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Speaker 3: be getting people amped up on Sunday right before kickoff.

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Speaker 3: Legend of the Game is presented by the Bflo Store,

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Speaker 3: the official retailer of the Buffalo Bills, and who is it.

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Speaker 3: It's none other than former Bill's linebacker, two time Pro

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Speaker 3: bowler in a Bill's uniform to Keyo Spikes. What's up

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Speaker 3: to Keyo? Are we doing man?

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Speaker 6: Man, I'm doing great, Listen. I get the opportunity to

608
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Speaker 6: come back to where it almost first started, but where

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Speaker 6: the excitement really first started.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 6: So I'm excited looking forward to popping over to get

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Speaker 6: some wings. And you know, man, it's football season. Man,

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Speaker 6: I'm ready for Bill's Mafia. I'm ready for everything.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what too to kill You played

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Speaker 4: it right, because it's always better to come in September

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Speaker 4: than it is in December January, because you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, man, Because you know, a Bill's T shirt's

618
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Speaker 4: a lot better than a Bill's parka to be the

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Speaker 4: legend of the game.

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Speaker 6: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: Listen, it still sticks with us. If you're a player

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Speaker 6: the first time when the schedule release comes out, you

624
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Speaker 6: look and see, Okay, when do we go to Miami?

625
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 6: Because you want to make sure that you're going to Miami,

626
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Speaker 6: hopefully in the later part of the season, to where

627
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Speaker 6: you get some of that good sunshine and everything. But nah, man,

628
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Speaker 6: bottom line. I think we're gonna have good weather. I

629
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Speaker 6: look forward to walking out of that tunnel again, and

630
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Speaker 6: so much has changed since the last time I've been

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Speaker 6: in Buffalo been a minute, So I'm really looking forward

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Speaker 6: to it. Guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have to tell you the built in

634
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Speaker 3: anticipation and excitement there are for Bill's home openers. The

635
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: first one is always a little bit more emotionally charged

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Speaker 3: because people are just so happy that football is back

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Speaker 3: in their city.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: You know what that's like here. I mean, you're not

640
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Speaker 3: gonna have to do a whole lot of heavy lifting,

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Speaker 3: but you know, I know that when you were here,

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Speaker 3: you were you know, London may have been the brains,

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00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: but you were like the emotional pulse of that team.

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Speaker 3: So being that for the fans on Sunday, I think

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Speaker 3: is going to be like a cakewalk for you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know what the reality of it

647
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Speaker 6: is is. I go back to two thousand and three,

648
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Speaker 6: playing the first game in the stadium after being recruited

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Speaker 6: by Bill's Mafia, all of the fans, and we played

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Speaker 6: against the Patriots, and I remember the excitement. I remember

651
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Speaker 6: the energy that was inside of Raph Wilson Stadium and

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm looking forward to on Sunday because, like

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Speaker 6: you said, it doesn't take much for the fans to

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Speaker 6: get involved, to get it, to become engaged. But with

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Speaker 6: it being the first game of the year at home,

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Speaker 6: and for me, I feel like it's the first time

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Speaker 6: that I'm going back to Buffalo, not playing in a game,

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Speaker 6: but being a part of the game. So man, I'm I'm,

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm pumped up. Fellas hell. You might you might

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Speaker 6: want to get me an advisor with the helmet in

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Speaker 6: in a uniform in double zero. Hey, go out there

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Speaker 6: and give you three plays.

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Speaker 4: I can give. I can give you a third of

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Speaker 4: a play, not three plays. I could jog onto the field. Uh,

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Speaker 4: then I would be gotta be like, kick me out.

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Speaker 4: Uh I know. Hey, listen, you co hosts Behind the

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Speaker 4: Mass podcast with former NFL offensive lineman tooton Res. What's

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Speaker 4: on what's on you guys agenda lately? What do you

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Speaker 4: guys been? What do you notice about the league? What

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Speaker 4: you been talking about?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 6: On the agenda, we we kind of took we took

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Speaker 6: some time off lately. We're about to get ready to

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Speaker 6: drop off first episode within the next week to ten days.

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Speaker 6: I highly encourage everybody to check it out. You can

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Speaker 6: find it on YouTube, all of your streaming podcasts, everywhere,

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Speaker 6: from Apple, Spotify. But you know some of the main

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Speaker 6: things that we got coming back. It's a beautiful story.

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna share it here, but it was a

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Speaker 6: reason why we took time off, and we're going to

681
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Speaker 6: be sharing that coming out. It's a beautiful story. Story

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Speaker 6: more than redemption can never be told, So make sure

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Speaker 6: everybody tune in for it.

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Speaker 3: Ta Keio. I know that you had to come back

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Speaker 3: from an Achilles' injury in your career. You did it

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Speaker 3: here in two thousand and five. I want to say

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Speaker 3: it was and you know, medical advances and such. You

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Speaker 3: saw Aaron Rodgers go down, What were you thinking watching

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Speaker 3: that on Monday night, knowing you had been through that yourself.

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Speaker 6: As soon as he did it, I knew it, and

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Speaker 6: I you know, we as media people, you never want

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Speaker 6: to speculate. And I really didn't say anything at all

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Speaker 6: at that time, and I still haven't said anything, but

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Speaker 6: for me, I think he'll be okay. And just like

695
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Speaker 6: you said, Steve, with medicine today, it speeds up the recovery.

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Speaker 6: And at that time when I tore mine back in

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Speaker 6: two thousand and five. No other player had came back,

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Speaker 6: you know, to play extensive amount of years, no more

699
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Speaker 6: than one to three years. I came back and play

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Speaker 6: seven years. So for me, I knew my back was

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Speaker 6: against the wall. It was hard, and then you also

702
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Speaker 6: got to look at it. The comp that I had

703
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Speaker 6: back then was Dann Marino and so, but he really

704
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Speaker 6: didn't count just because he didn't have to do all

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Speaker 6: of the movement that as a linebacker would do. He

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Speaker 6: would sit in the pocket. So I truly believe Aaron

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Speaker 6: will be fine. It's gonna take a process. It's a

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Speaker 6: process as far as learning how to walk again and

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Speaker 6: how to be able to make sure that you keep

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Speaker 6: the soft tissue flexible and pliable, to make sure you

711
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Speaker 6: don't have any knots in your cat, because that's how

712
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 6: a lot most times, that's how it starts. But I'm

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Speaker 6: not worried about him and just hearing him talk, making

714
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Speaker 6: the statements that he made for me. The first part

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Speaker 6: of healing starts with the mental mindset, and he's more

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Speaker 6: than willing to accept that task and he's more than

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Speaker 6: willing to do whatever it takes. From just me looking

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Speaker 6: and reading from what he was talking about, we'll take

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Speaker 6: the next step.

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Speaker 4: Well, Tequia, I'm glad we had had John, so you

721
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Speaker 4: give us an insight as to what Aaron Rodgers is

722
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Speaker 4: looking as a big story that came out of the

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Speaker 4: Bills game. Thanks for spending some time with us. Can't win.

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Speaker 4: Can't wait to see you this weekend. Congratulations on being

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Speaker 4: the legend of the game.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate it. Looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: Yep, we'll see it Sunday's kill. Thanks for the time. Uh,

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Speaker 3: that's a guy that doesn't need to be asked twice

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Speaker 3: on how to get people amped up. I mean those

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Speaker 3: teams and he's talking. I was gonna joke with him

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Speaker 3: a little bit because I mean, we were all there

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Speaker 3: for that three opener against the Patriots, and I still.

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Speaker 4: I do not game is unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: The Sam Adams interception return of thirty one yards for

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Speaker 3: a touchdown for me is still the loudest I have

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Speaker 3: ever heard the stadium ever. Two thousand and three, a

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Speaker 3: three hundred and twenty pound man is running down the

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Speaker 3: field with the football with a convoy in front.

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Speaker 4: Of him against the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Against the Patriots, and they intercepted Brady, and it's going

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Speaker 3: the other way. And we were in the old press

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Speaker 3: box back then at Midfield. The press box used to

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Speaker 3: be at Midfield, I know. And I'm sitting in the

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Speaker 3: third row watching this all unfold, and you can hear

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Speaker 3: the fans through the glass. And I am not lying

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Speaker 3: when I tell you the glass was reverberating from the

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Speaker 3: amount of noise in the decibel level that was going

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Speaker 3: on in that bowl. I have not seen it matched

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Speaker 3: since then. It was deafening.

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Speaker 4: Every so often you get a play that happens in

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Speaker 4: those in that stadium, and I remember back in the

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Speaker 4: day when I couldn't even tell you which play it was,

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Speaker 4: except that when you turn around and you look up

755
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Speaker 4: into the stands, it's almost like you can't even make

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Speaker 4: out a body parts to see. It's a sea of

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Speaker 4: it's a sea of humanity that it's all. It's like

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Speaker 4: one living entity, you know what I mean, And it's

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Speaker 4: it's you can't even take it all in. How how

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Speaker 4: absolutely off their rocker they go, and really special moments

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Speaker 4: like that, I mean, because they're you know, they don't

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Speaker 4: happen all that often, you know, even in good games

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Speaker 4: where you're playing stuff. But when something happens like the

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Speaker 4: Sam Adams thing against that team and that guy and

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Speaker 4: the way it happened on that day, you just can't

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Speaker 4: convey the meaning that it hits with With all those people.

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Speaker 4: I the Taron Johnson ninety nine yard touchdown return in

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Speaker 4: the playoffs against there are only sixty seven hundred people

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Speaker 4: in that place, and you could you could feel it,

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Speaker 4: you know, it was just like the motion of it.

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Speaker 3: Until Michaels even said sixty eight hundred sounds like sixty

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Speaker 3: eight thousand, right.

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Speaker 4: It was amazing. It was amazing, But it was more

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Speaker 4: than that. It was the at the opening kickoff against

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Speaker 4: the Patriots last year week seventeen, yeah, uh, or week eighteen,

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Speaker 4: it was like, you know, stuff like that. There are

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Speaker 4: moments like that, and then the Sam Adams thing, though

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Speaker 4: for a completely different reason because.

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Speaker 3: I was like this guy and he struts, oh, he

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Speaker 3: strutted in the last that was That was Brady's first

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Speaker 3: four interception game. The next one he had was against

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Speaker 3: the Bills in twenty eleven, Week three. That's what it

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00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: took to beat that guy. Four interceptions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember too to at least two of those

785
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: four interceptions were right through the hands of his receivers

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Speaker 4: and off their helmet. They were perfect throat.

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Speaker 3: So we look forward to seeing it Taquio on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: He'll have everybody amped up, the hairbi standing on the

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Speaker 3: back of your neck once he gets onto microphone, so

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Speaker 3: that should be good. We look forward to him being

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Speaker 3: dot com slash tse tasker, and this question comes from Chris.

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Speaker 3: This week, Steve, Steve talk us through the situation surrounding

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Speaker 3: your famous touchdown on the wild card game in the

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Speaker 3: ninety five season against Miami. Did Jim call that play

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Speaker 3: or was it scripted during the week?

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Speaker 4: Go bill kind of rough because our radio listeners, but

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Speaker 4: any man, they don't know. I did score a touchdown once,

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Speaker 4: and it was it was Don Shula's last game. It

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Speaker 4: was Wildcard round in nineteen eighty nineteen ninety five. I

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Speaker 4: got a chance to play because there was a Andrea

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Speaker 4: had been heard and stuff. Me and Billy Brooks were

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Speaker 4: the wideouts and Miami was adjusting to us. I was

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Speaker 4: playing the slot. Miami was adjusting to us by walking

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Speaker 4: a safety down and going man in certain situations. So

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Speaker 4: I was chirping at Jim in between series. I say, hey,

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Speaker 4: they're dropping that safety down to me. He he can't,

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Speaker 4: He's not. I can beat him. Sure enough, they get

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Speaker 4: to that pod, Jim calls his play and I run.

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Speaker 4: What In retrospect and I look back at it was

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Speaker 4: horrible route, but the guy couldn't keep couldn't run with me.

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Speaker 4: So I ran out ran him Jim throws and I

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Speaker 4: catched this touchdown touchdown quarter of the end zone. And

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Speaker 4: I remember Marino Dan told us later, he goes, we scored,

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Speaker 4: We scored that touchdown. We were on him, man, it

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Speaker 4: was like twenty seven to three or something like. We

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Speaker 4: were all over him. And then that was it then,

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Speaker 4: And that was in the first half.

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Speaker 3: So Jim called the play. That wasn't something you guys hadn't.

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Speaker 4: Jim called the play. But I told him between series,

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Speaker 4: he's going to get me on that guy when we

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Speaker 4: get in this formation. That guy is you know, he

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Speaker 4: can't cover me. And so when they did, sure enough, he's.

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Speaker 3: He That was like the dirt kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: It was a regular play. No, no, no, no, it

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Speaker 4: was a regular practice. It was a regular play we

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Speaker 4: have and Jim and he called it the right play

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Speaker 4: at the right time because I was chu up at him.

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Speaker 4: And then I'll tell you this too. He came down

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Speaker 4: and gave me a double high five. You know, after

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Speaker 4: I scored that touchdown. He he told me, nice call. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget it. That right there there you go,

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Speaker 4: boom touchdown.

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Speaker 3: All right, So the answer is you called the play

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Speaker 3: for all intents and purposes.

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Speaker 4: Well, technically speaking, I didn't call it, but I'm the

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Speaker 4: guy that we suggested it. I turned into a wide

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Speaker 4: receiver for a minute and started, you know, chirping at

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Speaker 4: the quarterback to throwing.

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Speaker 3: Me the ball right here.

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Speaker 4: Bro, right here, bro, because I'd seen it done. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: and that was uh, that was a wild card round

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Speaker 4: and I think, yes, ninety five, that was Don Shula's

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Speaker 4: final game as a head coach of the YAH the

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Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins. That's one of the things I remember about

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Speaker 4: that game, more so than any touchdown than I scored.

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Speaker 3: Kind of a thud in terms of a way to

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Speaker 3: go out after a Hall of.

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Speaker 4: Fame, only one way to go out if you're not

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Speaker 4: going you know, well, yeah, if he.

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Speaker 3: Goes nobody, nobody but one team finishes with finishes the

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Speaker 3: season with victory.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and then if he wins the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: you think he's gonna quit, then yeah, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: to see what's in there. I'm sure the winners of

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00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 3: these mystery boxes. Yeah, all too happy.

873
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of stood out the goods that there

874
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 4: was a bunch of autograph stuff in there, right.

875
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, usually some sign memorabilia of some kind along with

876
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 3: some other goodies in there.

877
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 4: So thanks for the question. I appreciate it. I'm that

878
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 4: was from an obscure a little bit of an obscure

879
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 4: game in the past, but.

880
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: The touchdown a playoff game, that's not obscure.

881
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 4: I know I gave the touch I gave that football

882
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: because I you know, I only had like a handful

883
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: of touchdowns. I kept the ball and gave it to

884
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 4: my nephew. Okay, and he had it. He's got it,

885
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 4: I think he. I don't know, probably in his addict now,

886
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 4: but it's a he's got it. He's got two kids

887
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: of his own now, he's he was a he was

888
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 4: a wafer of a little type case little guy. Then

889
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 4: so I so I gave it to my nephew.

890
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: Pretty cool. Yeah, that's and there's your epitaph. That's the

891
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: rest of the story. We are going to step aside

892
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Speaker 3: here because when we return, it's our number two on

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Speaker 3: a Friday. You know what that means. The one and

894
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Speaker 3: only Greg co Sell senior producer from NFL Films and

895
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Speaker 3: co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show, will be joining

896
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: us to discuss the x'es and o's of Bill's Raiders.

897
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: But we've got obl fan mail Bag Friday coming your

898
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Speaker 3: way a little bit later. All coming up an hour

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Speaker 3: number two, Greg co cell.

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Speaker 2: Next this One Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

901
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: Welcome to our number two here on a Friday. Chris Brown,

902
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: Steve Tasker, One Bill's Live, and you know what that

903
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Speaker 3: time and day of the week means. It means one.

904
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Speaker 3: Greg co Seal, senior producer from NFL Films and co

905
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: hosts of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show, joins us to talk

906
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: x'es and o's, and Greg's segment is brought to you

907
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Speaker 3: by Scott Lonyard, an official commercial site work partner of

908
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Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills. All right, Greg, let's get to the

909
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: stuff we'd all choose to forget about sooner rather than later. First,

910
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: that being the Monday night performance, and as much as

911
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: people are going to you know, dive into all of

912
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: the play that resulted in turnovers for Josh Allen, I

913
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 3: want to kind of look at it on a broader

914
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 3: scale with you, because really, I think this is an

915
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: exercise in risk management that every quarterback has to have,

916
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: and I think it even goes beyond the decision making

917
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 3: in a specific play. I think what also has to

918
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: be applied is the nature and flow and momentum of

919
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 3: the game, along with recognizing time and score. And I

920
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: feel like Josh kind of lost sight of that in

921
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 3: this game.

922
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 7: On the whole, I would say that's fair. You know,

923
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 7: this was a game as soon as riters went out

924
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 7: on the fourth play where it was not likely that

925
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 7: you needed a lot of points to win the game,

926
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 7: particularly when you were ahead at one't they had at one.

927
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 8: Point thirteen to three if memory serves me correct halftime.

928
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So this was a game that you ultimately

929
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 7: did not need big plays. You did not need to

930
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 7: be explosive on offense. But you know, I guess, Brownie,

931
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 7: to your point, doesn't this speak to sort of the

932
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 7: overall offensive sort of philosophy and approach. This team is

933
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 7: not built to line up and bleed clock and run

934
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 7: the ball and shorten games and do those kinds of things,

935
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 7: which is what this game demanded. This game, this game demanded.

936
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 7: It didn't matter how you won this game. You could

937
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 7: win this game sixteen to six and you walk away

938
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 7: and you go, hey, we got a good road to

939
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 7: win and we move on.

940
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 8: But they're not built that way. And I'm not defending

941
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 8: Josh Allen.

942
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 7: You know, we all know that what he did the

943
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 7: other night, there's not a defense for certain throws that

944
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 7: he made. And he'll tell you the same thing. So

945
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 7: we're not saying anything that isn't true. But you know,

946
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 7: you mentioned sort of looking at it kind of from

947
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 7: thirty thousand feet as opposed to just specific plays, and

948
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 7: you just wonder if you know that the team has

949
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 7: to move in that direction somewhere along the line. They've

950
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 7: been really, really productive over the last three forty years.

951
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 7: They've been among the league leaders in points scored, as

952
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 7: you know, but not every game demands putting up thirty

953
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 7: and when a game plays out differently. I guess what

954
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 7: I'm trying to say is I think people would say coaches,

955
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 7: not I'm not talking about people on social media. I'm

956
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 7: talking about coaches, would say that you have to have

957
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 7: more than one way to win games. And you know,

958
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 7: I've been agonizing over this all week with the Bills,

959
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 7: and you know and how to talk about it. But

960
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 7: you know, I think that ultimately, you know, I remember

961
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 7: when Dick Vermili used to come in here all the time,

962
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 7: when Ron Jaworski was here, and you know, talk about

963
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 7: those kinds of things. You have to have more than

964
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 7: one way to win. And I'm not sure that they're

965
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 7: quite ready to do that when a game demands, unless

966
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 7: it's Josh and then and you know, making his plays,

967
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 7: and obviously he didn't make those plays this week.

968
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it they We've talked all off season about

969
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 4: how the AFC with Kansas City, Cincinnati, Buffalo, who all

970
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 4: incidentally lost this weekend, but it's an arms race, you mean,

971
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 4: you have to score points to beat those guys because

972
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 4: they're just too prolific offensively and none of the and

973
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 4: it doesn't seem like any of those teams are really

974
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 4: demanded to do that very often. The Bills got it

975
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 4: done once last year. I mentioned it earlier in the

976
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 4: show the Green Bay Game. They kind of strangled the

977
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers and just took the game away from So,

978
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 4: you know, they have been able to do it in

979
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: the past, but they're really not you know, to have

980
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 4: that in your repertoire. When you're trying to get to

981
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 4: the playoffs where you're gonna have to be asked to

982
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 4: win big, you know you're gonna have to score thirty plush.

983
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 7: Right, and and and steve your points, correct, I mean,

984
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 7: ultimately in the AFC and even to get to the

985
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 7: Super Bowl and win, you're likely to have to score points.

986
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, look at last year's Super Bowl. Who

987
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 7: was I think thirty eight thirty five if memory serves

988
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 7: me correctly. Ultimately you do have to score. We know that.

989
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 7: But it's a long season. It's seventeen games. Not every

990
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 7: game is going to be like that, and you want

991
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 7: to be able to win multiple ways.

992
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 8: You know.

993
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 7: I think at halftime when it was thirteen three, I'm

994
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 7: sure you guys felt the same way. You probably felt, Hey,

995
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 7: this game's pretty much under control.

996
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 8: You know.

997
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 7: I mean, we've all been around long enough not to

998
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 7: take anything for granted, but you kind of felt.

999
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 8: Okay, this game is just gonna play out.

1000
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 7: They're probably gonna win this game twenty four or nine,

1001
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 7: and it might not be a beautiful, you know, beautiful

1002
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 7: mind kind of game, but you know they'll walk away

1003
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 7: with a nice win and obviously it didn't play out

1004
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 7: that way.

1005
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's look at some of the personnel usage

1006
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: in that game. Sixty three percent, sixty three percent of

1007
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: the snaps in twelve personnel, Yeah, and you know, twenty

1008
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: five percent in eleven, which was their chosen formation grouping

1009
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: last year. We talked to Ken Dorsey about it this week,

1010
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: and you know, he said, well, we'll use twelve. You know,

1011
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: how much in a given week remains to be seen.

1012
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you right now, after watching it last week,

1013
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 3: I know it was a good fit against the Jets, who,

1014
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: from what I had read, was the number one defense

1015
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: against eleven personnel last year. So you understand why they

1016
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 3: turned to twelve as much as they did. And I

1017
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: think there was some efficiency to it within the scope

1018
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: of the Bills offense last week that really worked. I

1019
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: think the only difference is when you're playing a Jets defense,

1020
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: the run after catch just simply isn't there. The first tackler,

1021
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: as Steve pointed out on our show earlier this week,

1022
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 3: gets the guy on the ground immediately. With that Jets defense,

1023
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: it is impressive. There is no run after catch against

1024
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 3: that Jets defense.

1025
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, the other factor last week, and

1026
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 7: obviously they this is the kind of team they have

1027
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 7: been over the last number of years with Josh Allen.

1028
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 7: There were no big plays. This has been a big

1029
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 7: play offense. You know, even if Josh makes a mistake

1030
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 7: here and there, he makes big plays. And that did

1031
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 7: not happen this past week. So they really weren't explosives

1032
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 7: in this game, which gets back to our initial point

1033
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 7: as well. But no, they played a really good defense.

1034
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 7: They had more snaps of twelve personnel in this game

1035
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 7: than they had the entire season a year ago. I

1036
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 7: would bet that twelve will be a really significant part

1037
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 7: of what they do. It might not be sixty four

1038
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 7: percent of their snaps every single week, but Kincaid is

1039
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 7: obviously going to be a big factor. You'd like to think,

1040
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 7: you know that he'll see more as we move forward.

1041
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 7: And then it depends on the opponent. I mean, this

1042
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 7: week they're playing an opponent in the Raiders that literally

1043
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 7: played Nickel on every stamp. I mean, this week we

1044
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 7: have the battle of the two teams that play Nickel

1045
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 7: on every snap.

1046
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, we're going to get to that. I want

1047
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 4: to go down the list of guys that I want

1048
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 4: to ask you about Bill's players, who you know people

1049
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 4: might be wondering about. Let's start. Let's start with James Cook.

1050
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: It's his first game as being kind of the lead

1051
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 4: back for Buffalo. What did you think about how he's looking,

1052
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 4: how they used him?

1053
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, and again, now you know, you guys know me

1054
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 7: well enough to know I'm very leery of, you know,

1055
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 7: making judgments about coaches because I'm not in the building

1056
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 7: and I'm not there during the week when they game plan.

1057
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 7: But you know, ultimately, I don't think Cook is a

1058
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 7: true feature back in a strict sense. I think he's

1059
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 7: you know, in a given game, can he be you know, maybe,

1060
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 7: But I think he's a little more of a committee

1061
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 7: type player. I don't think you can line up and

1062
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 7: just give him the ball in a what would be

1063
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 7: considered a conventional run game. You know, they tried draws

1064
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 7: with him, They tried those kinds of runs, which are

1065
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 7: you know, not not just base runs so to speak.

1066
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 7: You know, And I think he's currently as we speak today,

1067
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 7: their feature back. I don't know, you know, as things

1068
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 7: go forward, you know what they feel about Harris or

1069
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 7: Murray or you know, how that's going to play out.

1070
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 7: But you know that gets to the initial point. You know,

1071
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 7: what is their run game going to look like? And

1072
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 7: I think it needs to be more and I think

1073
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 7: it needs to be more efficient.

1074
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 3: Spinning it forward to the Raiders. The Bills defense is

1075
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 3: going to see a good number of twenty one personnel.

1076
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: You know, they line up with the full back Yakub

1077
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: Johnson goes two fifty five. How they weren't overly productive

1078
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 3: though last week against Denver, like they didn't run for

1079
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 3: not yards per carry average, but they are facing a

1080
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: second level Bills defense that has players that go to

1081
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty eight. And if they have Taylor

1082
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: Rap on the field, you know as a as a

1083
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 3: big nickel, it's two toh eight. What do you think

1084
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 3: of that matchup this week?

1085
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's gonna be really interesting because you're correct. Last

1086
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 7: week against the Broncos defense, and the Broncos play a

1087
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 7: five to two base front, which is not what the

1088
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 7: Bills play. Obviously, the Broncos played a five to two

1089
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 7: base front, which is what they matched up to against

1090
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 7: the twenty one person and by the way, they also

1091
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 7: played sixteen snaps excuse me, twelve snaps with six offensive linemen,

1092
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 7: so this was not just playing with a full back rowning.

1093
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 7: As you know, they played with six offensive linemen and

1094
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 7: they actually threw the ball a couple of times out

1095
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 7: of that. So it'll be interesting to see what Sean

1096
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 7: and the staff do. Do they stay with a conventional

1097
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 7: nickel or as you said, do they go big nickel

1098
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 7: and put someone like Taylor Rap in the game.

1099
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 8: We'll see. I mean, they do have smaller linebackers.

1100
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 7: It's gonna be Milano, who's a really really good player obviously,

1101
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 7: but he's not two forty five. And I assume it's Bernard,

1102
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 7: I mean, or is this a game where Dotson plays

1103
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 7: because they feel that that's the better matchup against this

1104
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 7: kind of team. You know, the one thing about this

1105
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 7: Raiders offense, it was true last week, and it's true

1106
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 7: because of who their quarterback is in Jimmy Garoppolo, is

1107
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 7: they're not really a vertical passing team. Now, they've got

1108
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 7: a great receiver in Adams. Myers will be out this week,

1109
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 7: so they have a really good receiver in Adams, but

1110
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 7: they're they're not really a vertical passing team. So you know,

1111
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 7: they could think that this is kind of a somewhat

1112
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 7: condensed offense and that bigger people are okay to play.

1113
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 4: What does Garoppolo bring to this offense that's vastly different,

1114
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 4: if anything, then Derek Carr brought.

1115
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 8: Oh well, I mean Car's a better player. You know.

1116
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 7: Again, we don't know why they made the move that

1117
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 7: they did, that's Josh McDaniel's question. But Car is a

1118
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 7: far better player, you know. Garoppolo is. He's a timing

1119
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 7: and rhythm guy all the way. He's got to hit

1120
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 7: his back foot, the ball has to come out. Everything

1121
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 7: has to be rhythmic. He's never been. He's still not

1122
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 7: a comfortable and poised late in the down quarterback. If

1123
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 7: he has to hit his back foot and wait, he struggles.

1124
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 7: He starts to play fast, both mentally and physically, the

1125
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 7: longer he is in the pocket, and he almost has

1126
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 7: no second reaction movement ability. So everything is rhythmic. So

1127
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 7: now you have to decide how you want to play

1128
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 7: the receivers because you know there'll be times in normal

1129
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 7: down in distant situations, Steve, where you're not going to

1130
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 7: get there with pass rush because it's going to be

1131
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 7: three step quick five step balls by design supposed to

1132
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 7: come out, so you're not necessarily going to get there

1133
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 7: with pass rush, So now you have to take away

1134
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 7: the routes.

1135
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: Flipping it over to their defensive side of the ball. Obviously,

1136
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 3: the headline guy is Max Crosby up front, got another

1137
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 3: sacked last week after a twelve and a half sack

1138
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 3: season last year. He's going to be over there on

1139
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 3: Spencer brown Side, who had his share of troubles, not

1140
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 3: only with John Franklin Myers who was bull rushing him,

1141
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 3: but even Bryce Huff coming off the edge with speed.

1142
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 3: So what are some of the things that the Bills

1143
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: could do to maybe aid Spencer brown with it with

1144
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 3: a pass rusher like Crosby.

1145
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 7: Well, I think they're going to have to deal with

1146
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 7: them both by play design, getting the ball out quick

1147
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 7: and with help. And look, the reality is, and I'm

1148
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 7: just telling you what the film shows that when Josh

1149
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 7: Allen sort of kind of perceives pressure, he's gonna move. So,

1150
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 7: you know, Crosby is really really difficult to block. I

1151
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 7: mean I was watching him last week against McGlinchey and

1152
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 7: it was a mismatch. He's really difficult to block. And

1153
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 7: you know that's that's gonna be a tough assignment for

1154
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 7: Spencer Brown. So they're going to have to do something

1155
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 7: both with play design and extra bodies to help Brown,

1156
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 7: particularly in clear passing situations, because otherwise, you know, I

1157
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 7: think you're gonna get Josh moving around, playing a little phrenetically.

1158
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 7: Capable of unbelievable plays as we know, but coming off

1159
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 7: last week, I think you would like to see Josh

1160
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 7: a little more settled.

1161
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 4: How is Jacobe Myers? I mean, we were a little

1162
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 4: surprised at the amount of production he got obviously two touchdowns,

1163
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 4: but also the targets and DeVante Adams didn't get that.

1164
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 4: How do you see him his concussion protocol, whether he

1165
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 4: plays or not. If they take Jacoby Myers out of

1166
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 4: the lineup because of his injury, how does that change

1167
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 4: their passing game if at all?

1168
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 7: Well, Yeah, what happened last week, Steve, is that the

1169
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 7: Broncos matched up Sir tan On Adams pretty much the

1170
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 7: whole game. He traveled with him, and they had Mathis

1171
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 7: the other corner matched on Myers, and they went after

1172
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 7: the Marti Mathis quite a bit in this game, and

1173
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 7: Mathis had a difficult game. He did, Yeah, and he's

1174
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 7: a solid corner. He's in his second or third year

1175
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 7: out of Pitt but he had a tough game last week.

1176
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 7: So they actually traveled their corner and matched up Sir

1177
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 7: Tan on Adams. And if you speak to people around

1178
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 7: the league, they'll tell you that Sir Tan might well

1179
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 7: be the best corner in the league. So, you know,

1180
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 7: Garoppolo didn't look to Adams a ton. In fact, one

1181
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 7: of adams catches for about eighteen yards came on one

1182
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 7: of the very few plays in which they did not

1183
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 7: match or ten on Adams, and he caught it against Mathis.

1184
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 7: So you know, I think that's the reason that Adams

1185
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 7: did not have a high target total and that Miners

1186
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 7: seemed to be more of a factor in the game.

1187
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 3: So, knowing this is not a vertical offense, and knowing

1188
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 3: they want to establish ball control, they were able to

1189
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: do that last week because the game was closed. So

1190
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 3: if the Bills, if the Bills can manage to get

1191
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 3: up ten or fourteen on them early, they could they

1192
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: could force them to kind of change their approach here,

1193
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 3: I would think, right.

1194
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 7: Absolutely, I mean keep this in mind, you know, in

1195
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 7: today's NFL, this is you know, again obviously the Bills

1196
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 7: because the kincaid were different, but only fourteen of Garoppolo's

1197
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 7: thirty dropbacks versus the Broncos last week came out of

1198
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 7: eleven personnel. This you know last week they were a

1199
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 7: heavy twenty one personnel team, heavy six to zero lining team. Again,

1200
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 7: it's week one, so we don't know, Brownie, if that

1201
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 7: was specific to the Broncos or if this is the

1202
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 7: way that Josh McDaniels wants to play. You never know

1203
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 7: that after week one because you know, teams from the

1204
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 7: time the schedule comes out prepare for a week one

1205
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 7: So we don't know the answer to that. But the

1206
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 7: bottom line is is they don't have a lot of

1207
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 7: juice at wide receiver beyond Myers, who could well be

1208
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 7: out and Adams. Renfro played snaps at the third receiver. Wilkerson,

1209
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 7: who was a former player with the Patriots and each

1210
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 7: year tried to make the team, so McDaniels knew him.

1211
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 7: He played snaps at the third wide receiver. Carter, who's

1212
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 7: been around the league, has played snaps at the third

1213
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 7: wide receiver. So they don't really have a third wide

1214
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 7: receiver that theoretically you're that concerned about. And the other

1215
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 7: thing is Michael Mayer, the rookie tight end. He played

1216
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 7: twenty nine snaps. He was not targeted at one time.

1217
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on the Bills pass rush. We

1218
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 4: thought in the early going that they were in they well,

1219
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 4: they obviously got after Aaron Rodgers, they put him out

1220
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 4: of the game after four snaps. Do you think about

1221
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 4: overall about the Bills pass rush and what it could

1222
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 4: do this year?

1223
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 8: I thought it was actually pretty good.

1224
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 7: You know, again, you have to take into account Wilson,

1225
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 7: who doesn't see things well at all and tends to

1226
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 7: move often before he needs to. But the pass rush

1227
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 7: needs to be a factor because, as I mentioned, Garoppolo

1228
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 7: is not very good when there's bodies around him. And

1229
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 7: if you get him feeling like he can't make those throws,

1230
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 7: those you know, rhythmic throws, he really has a hard time.

1231
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 7: So I think it becomes really important, not in terms

1232
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 7: of number of sacks, but just to have him feel pressure,

1233
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 7: you know, feel bodies around him, and because then I

1234
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 7: think it might lead to some poor throws, maybe some turnovers.

1235
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 7: I guarantee in the in the defensive back room and

1236
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 7: in the defense overall, they're believing that they can you know,

1237
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 7: they that he's going to throw it to them a

1238
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 7: couple of times in this game and that they can

1239
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 7: hopefully capitalize on that last one.

1240
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 3: For me, Greg, we know that this is the Raiders

1241
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 3: defense that was trying to prioritize increasing their takeaway total

1242
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 3: after finishing last in the league in interceptions last year

1243
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 3: and last in total takeaways. They added Marcus Peters right

1244
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 3: before training camp. That should help, knowing the risk taker

1245
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 3: that he is to try to get takeaways. But I

1246
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 3: was stunned when I saw last week the Raiders were

1247
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 3: credited with one pass breakup and yeah, I mean Russell

1248
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 3: Wilson was like twenty seven to thirty four. They had

1249
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 3: one pass breakup the entire game. I don't know if

1250
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 3: I've ever seen that.

1251
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, there were a lot of short throws, but there

1252
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 7: was obviously a few longer ones, although their offense was

1253
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 7: very condensed. The Broncos, that is, they're starting a rookie

1254
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 7: Jarrett from Maryland at right corner. I really liked his

1255
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 7: tape coming out. He was the corner opposite Dean day Banks,

1256
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 7: who the Giants drafted in the first round. You know,

1257
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 7: I think this is a defense on the back end

1258
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 7: that you can get at after a little bit, so

1259
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 7: We'll see how it plays out, you know, I guess,

1260
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 7: you know, maybe I'm a purest guys, you know, but

1261
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 7: I would like to see some more you know, explosive type.

1262
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 7: When I say explosive, I don't want people to think

1263
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 7: I'm talking about sixty yard touchdowns. But you know, eighteen

1264
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 7: twenty twenty two yard plays out within the structure of

1265
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 7: the past game, not where Josh is making second reaction

1266
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 7: movement plays. You know, we really didn't see that last week,

1267
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 7: and you know, I would love to see that. I'd

1268
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 7: like to see the offense just have some more rhythm

1269
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 7: to it within the pass game, you know, the run game.

1270
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,439
Speaker 7: We'll have to see how that plays out, but within

1271
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 7: the past game, I would you know, I'd love to

1272
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 7: see I think you guys would probably love to see

1273
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 7: that as well.

1274
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 4: Oh sure, yeah, you'd like to see it. You know,

1275
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 4: Josh hit the back of his drop and sling it, yeah,

1276
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 4: no question, instead of standing there. But after week one

1277
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 4: and then this would be the last one for me.

1278
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 4: Greg after week one, and I imagine you've seen most

1279
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 4: of the games that took play over the weekend, or

1280
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 4: at least seeing the results, which was the most surprising

1281
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 4: to you.

1282
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 8: Well.

1283
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 7: Week one had a number of crazy things, so you know,

1284
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 7: I would say, and they're in your division, but boy,

1285
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 7: watching Miami's offense is a lot of fun and they're very,

1286
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:17,919
Speaker 7: very difficult to defend.

1287
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 8: You know.

1288
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 7: I talked about this with a number of other people

1289
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 7: this week as well.

1290
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 8: You're seeing, to me a big trend in the league.

1291
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 8: So much motion now in the past.

1292
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 7: Game, and I think you're going to see that more

1293
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 7: and more because it's just so hard to disrupt receivers

1294
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 7: when they're in motion, when they get a running start,

1295
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 7: and Miami does it as well as anybody. This is

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Speaker 7: actually one of the plays when he was in motion.

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Speaker 7: You see he's wide open. But you're seeing it not

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Speaker 7: just with Miami, but I think Mike McDaniel has done

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Speaker 7: an outstanding job with it. But you're seeing it more

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Speaker 7: and more. I mean, not that you guys care about

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Speaker 7: the rams necessarily there on the other side of the country,

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Speaker 7: but you know, they have a five to six hundred

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Speaker 7: and fifty pound receiver and two two at well who

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Speaker 7: had over one hundred yards on six catches, and they

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Speaker 7: did the same thing with him that the Dolphins do

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Speaker 7: with Hill and Waddle. You know, it gets these guys

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Speaker 7: free access into their routes and they can run. And

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Speaker 7: I think you're going to see more and more of

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Speaker 7: it in the league this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was pretty impressed with the way

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins ran out of those condensed formations and it

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Speaker 3: basically gave Tyreek Hill all the green grass he could

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Speaker 3: ask for outside the numbers. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: It's and you know, it's really really hard to defend Brownie.

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Speaker 8: I mean, people can say, oh, how can you let

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Speaker 8: Tyreek Hill do that? How can you know?

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Speaker 7: I mean, how can you let Waddle who obviously didn't

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Speaker 7: have the big game this week Hill did, But Wattle

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Speaker 7: can do the same thing any given week as well.

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Speaker 7: But it's it's really hard to defend. I mean, teams

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Speaker 7: are going to be trying to figure this out all

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Speaker 7: the year, and you know, I'm very curious to see,

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Speaker 7: as I'm sure you guys are as well, how Bill

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Speaker 7: Belichick does it this week when they when it's Miami

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Speaker 7: at New England, two teams in your division.

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Speaker 8: Obviously.

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Speaker 3: All right, Greg, thanks as always for the time. We'll

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Speaker 3: chop it up next week.

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Speaker 8: All right, guys, thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's Greg CoA sal senior producer from NFL

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Speaker 3: Films and co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show, joining

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Speaker 3: us as he does every week. We step aside and

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Speaker 3: take a break, but we'll be back with more, including

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Speaker 3: some obl fan Friday mailbag. We've got the Collision Course

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Speaker 3: and Tailgate Friday plenty to get to when we return

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Speaker 3: here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 5: Stay tune all.

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Speaker 3: Right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 3: Tasker with you and excited to begin a new segment

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Speaker 3: on the show.

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Speaker 4: Steve.

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Speaker 3: Every Friday Collision Course brought to you by Gabe's Collision,

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Speaker 3: the official auto collision repair center of the Buffalo Bills.

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01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 3: Get back in the game.

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Speaker 4: That's right today, this collision course, the collision course this

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Speaker 4: week is going to be DeVante Adams against Trey White.

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Speaker 4: That's going to be a matchup. I don't know that

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Speaker 4: Trey White will follow DeVante Adams everywhere. That's what the

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Speaker 4: Denver Broncos did. Cosell just told us Davante Adams, particularly

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Speaker 4: with the injuries they have in their wide receiver room

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Speaker 4: Jacoby Myers out with a concussion, Davante's gonna be an

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Speaker 4: even bigger part of the Raider offense, and Tredevious, White

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Speaker 4: and crew are gonna be matched up against him. That's

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Speaker 4: the collision course we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: The thing that I like about this matchup in particular

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Speaker 3: is it's two guys who rely on technique. They are

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Speaker 3: precision players, not to say that they're not physically talented,

1358
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 3: but what makes them so good year over year over

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01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 3: year is the fact that they pay attention to the

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Speaker 3: details of their craft. Davonte Adams, you're at Stefan Diggs

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01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 3: talking about him earlier this week. I mean enormous amount

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Speaker 3: of respect for him, and I'm sure that's mutual. But

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Speaker 3: Tredevious and Davante two guys that rely not just on

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Speaker 3: physical abilities. They sweat the details. They sweat their technique.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I think it's going to be a

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Speaker 3: fascinating matchup. When you think about this game on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: Like if you're at the game and you don't have

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01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,440
Speaker 3: to be behold to the television and what the television

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01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 3: is showing, you just spend four or five plays just

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01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 3: watching those two guys work against each other, because it

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Speaker 3: is going to be high entertainment value. That is your

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Speaker 3: collision Course once again, brought to you by Gabe's Collision,

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01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 3: the official auto collision repair center of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: Get Back in the Game. Three locations. I just jotted

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Speaker 3: these down so we know where these things are.

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Speaker 4: Stamhurst, Genesee Street by the airport and Shared and Driving Tonawanda.

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Speaker 3: There you go, go out well, get yourself back in

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01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 3: the game. Just what you gotta do.

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01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 4: Get yourself back in the game and stick with us.

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01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 4: Every Friday, we'll have that Collision Course matchup.

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01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll pick some of the best matchups each and

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01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 3: every week. And there are some doozies coming up next

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Speaker 3: week with the commanders that I've already got my thoughts about.

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01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 3: Know when Chase Young is back in the lineup from Washington,

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01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 3: that's going to be a doozy. We have to transition

1386
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 3: though to Tailgate Friday, which is presented by Highmark Blue Cross,

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01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 3: Blue Shield of Western New York, the official healthcare plan

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01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 3: of the Buffalo Bills. And this is where you send

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Speaker 3: us your best tailgatees. And we've got an interesting list

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Speaker 3: this week. Steve Naturally, people are fired up because it's

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01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 3: the first time they're gonna get back in the lots.

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Speaker 3: Because it's a home game Sunday as opposed to a

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Speaker 3: road venue where people are doing stuff in their driveways,

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Speaker 3: their living rooms and everywhere.

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Speaker 4: What are the early returns on the weather gonna be

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Speaker 4: for some.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be good, It's gonna be dry. What they

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Speaker 3: said is towards the very end of the game there

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Speaker 3: is a chance for rain, so you may want to

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Speaker 3: bring your raincoat to get back to your car after

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01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 3: the game is over. They're saying, right around three point

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01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 3: thirty four o'clock there might be some sprinkles, so as

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Speaker 3: long as you stay dry for the game, right yeah,

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01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 3: Jack on Tailgate Friday says, flat top grilling up a

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01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: few different sliders in the lot on Sunday. He's going

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Speaker 3: with cheddar cheese, bacon, jalapeno sliders with his homemade Zesty

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Speaker 3: burger sauce and pickles. Second sweet onion pork sliders with

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Speaker 3: grilled pineapple guda and homemade Houy Hawaiian bar barbecue sauce

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Speaker 3: Chef's kiss. Jack does it up every week. And you

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01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 3: know what, I gotta say this because he's a regular

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01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 3: respondent to this tailgate Friday, it's always different.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he's got a large menu. That a list of

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01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 4: things that he pulls out that he does.

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01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 3: Sweet onion pork sliders.

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01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 4: That sounds it takes you longer than every Here's the thing.

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01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 4: Every ingredient in that those sliders just sounds great. I

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01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 4: just like, I mean, I'm a pineapple guy anyway, but

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01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 4: I don't put.

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01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 3: Sweet onion with the pineapple. That's a combo.

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01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 4: I haven't scuda cheese and July Hawaiian barbecue sauce. I

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01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 4: don't know what huy Hawaiian barbecue sauce. It sounds fantastic.

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01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 3: What is I gotta know what sauce is.

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01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 4: And pickles. You're a pickle guy.

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01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 3: I am a pickle guy.

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01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 4: You like slice pickles?

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01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 3: Well, I like bread and butter, and then I also

1427
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 3: like like the jalapeno, Well, the pickles in the jalapeno brine.

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 4: Cheddar bacon jlopeno sliders. I think he said first is yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're both winners.

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Speaker 3: So good job, Jack. I'm your mouth watering already. Zz

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Speaker 3: Dog twenty five is keeping it much simpler. Steak fahetas.

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Speaker 3: Now here's the thing. You know, the people bring out

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Speaker 3: their habachis and their charcoal grills. You got to bring

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Speaker 3: like a flat a flat grill with you to keep

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Speaker 3: the faeat is warm. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 3: unless you got to an RV in a microwave, I

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Speaker 3: mean a flat top or or you mean that's what

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01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, I mean a flat top. I guess you

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01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 3: could put just some aluminum foil down on your grill

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01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 3: and your five way and then you got your warm

1441
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Speaker 3: up your tortillas.

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Speaker 4: That way, you wrap all the vegetables in the foil

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01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 4: and throw it on the grill while you're grilling steak.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm talking about keeping the tortillas warm. I

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Speaker 3: don't like a cold tortilla when I got hot food.

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Speaker 4: Everything's got. If you've got a grill right there, you

1447
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 4: throw the on the grill real quick.

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Speaker 3: For ten seconds. Yeah, I just worry it's gonna stick,

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Speaker 3: So I would put foil down.

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Speaker 4: You gotta do something that keeps it from sticking. I would.

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Speaker 3: I would put foil down and just sit it on

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01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 3: oil and then flip that.

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01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 4: But just that's what you do. You heat the heat.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I don't like holding a cold tortilla and then putting

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01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 3: hot food in the tortien has got to be a

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01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 3: little warm. At least it's got to be like a nice,

1458
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Speaker 3: little warm blanket throw.

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Speaker 4: You act like you're the only guy that feels that way.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well I'm glad.

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Speaker 4: I'm not. I was one days on that program. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: Those are our main submissions for Tailgate Friday, presented by

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Speaker 3: high Mark, Blue Cross, Blue Shield Western New York. The

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Speaker 3: official healthcare plan of the Buffalo Bills. Next on the docket,

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Speaker 3: We've got obl Fan Mailbag Friday every Friday. Any question

1467
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 3: you have about the Bills, the league at large, the

1468
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 3: NFL Draft, what's going on with astro, turf and grass,

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01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 3: whatever you have on your mind, or maybe what you're

1470
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 3: thinking about if you're coming to the game. You want

1471
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Speaker 3: to know some things that are going on here, feel

1472
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Speaker 3: free to fire those off. First on the list in

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Speaker 3: the mail bag Stephen Who says, given our tough schedule,

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Speaker 3: do you think Josh will throw for five thousand yards

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01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 3: this season? I noticed Tasker didn't write it on the

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01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 3: whiteboard yet this year.

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Speaker 4: I ain't writing it down after Week one either.

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Speaker 3: But but.

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Speaker 4: Josh, he's gonna throw for four thousand plus yards again.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna throw He's gonna have thirty five, maybe forty

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Speaker 4: comp you know, touchdowns responsible for that rushing and passing,

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Speaker 4: and we've Week one is exactly what we thought. If

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Speaker 4: he cuts down on the turnovers, this team's gonna be

1484
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 4: really hard to beat. So and he'll have two or

1485
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 4: three games this year where we won't have any, but

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Speaker 4: he is gonna turn the ball over some. But if

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Speaker 4: you're a Bills fan, you gotta know you gotta kind

1488
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 4: of live with that because they score. If the Bills

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Speaker 4: score a lot of points, the turnovers are kind of

1490
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 4: an afterthought. Then if they can't score against a defense,

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Speaker 4: if they get in against another jet type defense, you

1492
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 4: don't want to turn it over. But if they get

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Speaker 4: in there some of these teams, it doesn't matter. As

1494
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 4: long as you're scoring and ringing up the scoreboard. That

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01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 4: team can't keep up with us, particularly with the quality

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01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 4: of defense we feel. So if Josh's turning it over,

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01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 4: don't worry about it. Until they can't score touchdowns or

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01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 4: move the football, then it's a problem like it was

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Speaker 4: in New York.

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Speaker 3: I kind of agree. I think five thousand yards is

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Speaker 3: going to be hard because I think you got to

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Speaker 3: average too. Stevens point, it's a tough schedule, like you're

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01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 3: playing the NFC East, you're playing that Philadelphia defense. That's tough.

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01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 3: We saw what the Dallas defense can bring to the

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Speaker 3: table in Week one against the Giants, and then you've

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Speaker 3: got to play the Jets defense again later in the season.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing. You've got to average two hundred and

1508
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 4: ninety five yards per game, or actually two hundred and

1509
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 4: ninety four right there, between two hundred ninety four and

1510
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 4: two hundred ninety five yards per game, just a five

1511
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 4: thousand and if you get to if you if you

1512
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 4: go to ninety five, it's five thousand, fifteen yards. So

1513
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 4: he's you know, you got to you know, the average

1514
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,799
Speaker 4: it out. So he's got to have some big games

1515
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 4: to overcome. The bad games are the ones where they

1516
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 4: don't need to throw it all the time, right, But

1517
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 4: that's the number two ninety five a game.

1518
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Capose asks, how do the Bills slow down Josh

1519
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,919
Speaker 3: Jacobs and Devonte Adams.

1520
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 4: It's not easy.

1521
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 3: No, you do have to divide your attention a little

1522
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,560
Speaker 3: bit here. But I think the main impetus for Buffalo's

1523
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 3: defense is to stop Josh Jacobs because that is the

1524
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 3: kind of offense they want to be they want to

1525
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 3: run it downhill in your face and get first downs

1526
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 3: that way, and then mix in Davante Adams knowing that

1527
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 3: Garoppolo is not is not there to carry the load offensive.

1528
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 3: It's not designed to be all on his shoulders.

1529
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 4: And it's the right question too, because those are the

1530
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 4: two dudes. It's not Jimmy Garoppolo, it's Davante Adams and

1531
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs. Garoppolo is gonna be there, but he's he's

1532
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 4: a facilitator. He's a facilitator and he's good at it.

1533
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 4: The guy wins games. I think for Davante Adams, you

1534
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 4: put your best guy on him and another guy and you,

1535
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 4: and this is what you do in the NFL. You

1536
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 4: force the Raiders to beat you left handed. Somebody else

1537
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 4: other than Davante Adams, and somebody besides Josh Jacob's gonna

1538
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 4: have to beat you. You're gonna those guys are not

1539
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 4: getting the ball, and if they do, they're gonna get

1540
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 4: stuffed because you're gonna have nine guys on them all

1541
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 4: the time. So if you want Jimmy Garoppolo to run

1542
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 4: a quarterback sweep and beat you, good luck to you.

1543
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 4: But that's what you're gonna have to do. That's kind

1544
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 4: of the philosophy. I'm exaggerating, obviously to make a point,

1545
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 4: but that's the philosophy you got to do. You got

1546
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 4: to do everything you can to make sure DeVante Adams

1547
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:19,879
Speaker 4: hates this game and the same thing with Josh Jacobs.

1548
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 4: He cannot be a factor in this offense. You got

1549
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 4: to jump on the guy. If the Raiders can beat

1550
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 4: you with somebody else, that's what they're going to have

1551
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 4: to do, and you force him to do that.

1552
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to the phones where we've got Doc

1553
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 3: and Williamsville waiting patiently. What do you got for us? Doc?

1554
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 1: Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen, afternoon. I'm hoping that the stink

1555
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 1: stays in New Jersey because Allen stunk it up pretty

1556
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: good and there seems to be a lack of communication.

1557
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: Everybody has said that they talked to Alan about game plan,

1558
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: do this, do that, and I don't know stand there

1559
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: seems to be a lack of communication, and I know

1560
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: how to handle it. Put in a backup quarterback for

1561
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: a series and see what happened. And if the Turkey

1562
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: likes to ball down the field, it's a messic to Allen,

1563
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: stick with the game play. I'll hang up to let

1564
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: you guys talk about it.

1565
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not taking Josh Allen.

1566
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm not doing that either.

1567
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 4: Yeah you can.

1568
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 3: I think you could do that in high school. You

1569
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 3: can even do that.

1570
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 4: And get thee I get the mentality, but you're not

1571
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 4: dealing with high school kid or junior high kid. And yeah,

1572
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 4: and not to make this too. And I'll say this

1573
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 4: to I get it. I mean, send a clear message.

1574
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 4: What are you gonna do if Josh Allen says, okay,

1575
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 4: forget it, I'm gonna sit down. No, I'm not going

1576
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 4: back here. You put your boy in there, he's getting

1577
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 4: he's getting his head caved in. I'm just gonna sit

1578
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 4: right here.

1579
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 3: That relationship is too important to start playing head games.

1580
01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, what are you gonna do if Josh starts playing

1581
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 4: games back with you, which would be his prerogative. So yeah,

1582
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 4: that's a that's a slippery slope to go down. I

1583
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 4: think it's a little it's just because these guys are

1584
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 4: playing a game. Don't treat him like kids.

1585
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I think your approach as

1586
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 3: a head coach in the NFL with a player of

1587
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 3: that caliber is to double down on your trust in him.

1588
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 3: After a game like that, you do the exact opposite.

1589
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 3: You don't express the same level of concern that everybody

1590
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 3: out there in the football world's expressing. You double down

1591
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 3: on your trust in that guy.

1592
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 4: That's right. That's that's good point, brownie, that's exactly what

1593
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 4: you do. You go, you go in there and say, listen,

1594
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 4: then forget all that. Let's go. We've seen Josh Allen

1595
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 4: play too well for too long to treat him like

1596
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 4: a petulant child. So yeah, and you're acting and it

1597
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 4: you're acting like the kid like Josh was like, is

1598
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 4: somehow being openly disobedient because he's not doing what he's

1599
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 4: told on the field. So yeah, that's not the case.

1600
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 4: You may not like the result, but when you put

1601
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 4: eleven guys out there, you got to let them play

1602
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 4: and yeah, coach them up. You control what you can control.

1603
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 4: Putting a backup quarterback in start setting guys down, particularly

1604
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 4: guys like Josh Allen setting them down, or like doing

1605
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 4: the same thing with Steph Diggs or whatever. You know,

1606
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 4: you're opening up a can that you can't close.

1607
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, back to the phones and to Jim in Florida.

1608
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 3: What do you got for us, Jim, You're on one

1609
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 3: Bill's Live.

1610
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: Well hello.

1611
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 10: I One thing that has not been discussed since the

1612
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 10: game is special teams. Josh had taking the team down

1613
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 10: the field to tie the game, and uh, then the

1614
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 10: special teams failed by not doing with normal special things folks,

1615
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 10: to cover your lane when you when you are covering

1616
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 10: a kick, you don't all go to one side. I

1617
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 10: watched the replay of that play, and almost every one

1618
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 10: of our players is on the other side of the field.

1619
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 10: You can't do that. It's gonna cause trouble, just like

1620
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 10: the quarterback throwback did.

1621
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 4: Yeh.

1622
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 10: I'm just still disappointed that that's you know, we haven't

1623
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 10: That was a tie game. We still had a chance

1624
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 10: to win that game, and that play should not have happened.

1625
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'll let the Hall of Fame Special Teams guy

1626
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 3: handle that one because he can tell you about the

1627
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: importance of staying in your lanes.

1628
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I said it when the next day

1629
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 4: the return that Gibson made was a really nice return.

1630
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 4: Snap was a little low. They almost had one blocked

1631
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 4: earlier in the game, so Sam Martin tried to kind

1632
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,799
Speaker 4: of hurry to make sure he got it off, particularly

1633
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 4: after a low snap just trying to get it off.

1634
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 4: Didn't hit the best punt of the night. And when

1635
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 4: Gibson catches this, he runs hard to his right, stops,

1636
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 4: and then comes all the way back to the left.

1637
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 4: That move was what did it for him. That was

1638
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 4: the move that compromised the coverage for the Bills and

1639
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 4: got him into the end zone. I've been a long

1640
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 4: proponent of guys that would do. If you got the

1641
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 4: time and space to take it, a couple of hard

1642
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 4: steps the wrong way in the return, you're gonna set

1643
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 4: yourself up for a big return. That's what Gibson did.

1644
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 3: Because you can entice the people to get out of

1645
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 3: their assignments.

1646
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they start chasing. They start chasing you, not knowing

1647
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 4: that when they when you double back, the Jet guys

1648
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 4: had gotten leverage on all the recoverage guys. Now they

1649
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 4: start throwing blocks and they're in the perfect position to

1650
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 4: do that. So it was a well executed return by

1651
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 4: the Jets, no question. But once he turned that corner,

1652
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 4: there are like six Jet guys over there, and all

1653
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 4: the Bills guys turned around. You can bet they all went,

1654
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 4: oh man, they knew it. They knew it when he

1655
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 4: was before he was across midfield compage. Yeah, they knew it.

1656
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,679
Speaker 4: As soon as he put his foot in the round

1657
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 4: the second time after going right going back left, they

1658
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 4: could tell it was like where he goes. And plus

1659
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 4: the problem is this too, as soon as he gets

1660
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 4: to the thirty yard line, games over anyway, all he

1661
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 4: needs to touch all he needs a field goal to

1662
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 4: win the game.

1663
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 3: Right, So they've got Greg zerline who's got him on.

1664
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 4: So it's you know it was it was a really

1665
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 4: good return. Yes, the Bills got out flanked, but Gibson

1666
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 4: having the time that he did because of the short

1667
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 4: kick that didn't stand the ground long enough because they

1668
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 4: were they'd almost gotten one blocked earlier. And Sam Martin

1669
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 4: wants to make sure he doesn't get smuffed right there

1670
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 4: in the in his own end and in the game

1671
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 4: right there, tries to get it off quick, doesn't get

1672
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 4: the best punt off and and it ends up in

1673
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 4: your own end zone. I mean, that's there's a and

1674
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 4: as with all that all that stuff I just said,

1675
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 4: anytime you see a play like this that the Jets

1676
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 4: hung on the Bills to end that game, it's a

1677
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 4: confluence of mistakes or good things for the other team

1678
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 4: best you know, great plays by the other team. And

1679
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 4: this was all of that rolled into one at the

1680
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 4: end of the game. So it was bad snap following

1681
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 4: a bad snap, an almost block, a hurried punt, hurried

1682
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 4: poor punt, not enough time to get down there and

1683
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 4: make sure that Gibson couldn't do all that stuff before

1684
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 4: he started running up the field, compromising your coverage. Your

1685
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 4: coverage gets compromised by his time and space to make

1686
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 4: you think he's going the wrong way. The jet guy's

1687
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 4: being disciplined coming out the other side, knowing he's coming

1688
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 4: back there, and once he makes it moves, it's a

1689
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 4: done deal. All of that stuff has to happen for

1690
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 4: a punt to go back, and it doesn't. That's why

1691
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 4: it doesn't happen very often. A lot of things have

1692
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 4: to happen.

1693
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 3: Break time for us. Steve and I close it up

1694
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 3: with some final thoughts from the obl man BEI like

1695
01:27:45,400 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 3: next here on one Bill's Live Stay two nine for

1696
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 3: Vision to Victory presented by at Wall eye Care, the

1697
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 3: official eye care provider of the Buffalo Bills. Steve, how

1698
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 3: what is your vision to a Bill's victory.

1699
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 4: I think this is going to turn into the AFC

1700
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 4: kind of game that we thought we were going to

1701
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 4: see from a lot from a lot of teams this year.

1702
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 4: I think I think Josh will probably have thirty completions

1703
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 4: in this game, no matter how many times, how many

1704
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 4: times they throw it. I think they're going to attack

1705
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 4: these guys through the air. And I think if they

1706
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 4: don't turn it over, obviously they I don't think they lose.

1707
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 4: So that's going to be the balance. They're either going

1708
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 4: to score a lot and turn it over and don't care,

1709
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 4: or I still think if they don't turn it over

1710
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 4: this could that's going to tell you how wide the

1711
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 4: margin of victory is going to be.

1712
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 3: I think there are some big play opportunities here for

1713
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 3: the Bills passing game, and I think they will call

1714
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 3: some shots at times, particularly when they get between the forties.

1715
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 3: And I also think there are some mismatches here. Knowing

1716
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 3: that the Raiders are going to line up in nickel

1717
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 3: and say beat us, know what's coming. I think that's

1718
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 3: advantage Josh in terms of reading the mismatches, diagnosing them,

1719
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 3: and taking advantage of them.

1720
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Speaker 4: And I think they're gonna have something going to that,

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Speaker 4: the Raiders, I mean, the twelve personnel is still an

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Speaker 4: unknown for these teams too, so we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be a good one. Be sure to get

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Speaker 3: out there. We'll be back to cover it all on

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Speaker 3: Monday at noon, So we'll see at noon on Monday,

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Speaker 3: right here on one Bill's Live. Enjoy the game, everybody,