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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Betting Pros's college football preseason Win Total Preview.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, Thorne Eistrom, joined as always by

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Speaker 1: the godfather of recruiting, Mike Farrell of Mike Farrell Sports. Mike,

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Speaker 1: how you doing today and are you ready to rock

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Speaker 1: and talk about some big twelve and some sec win totals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready. I mean, we got I'm excited because

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Speaker 2: the first one has to be perfect, you know, to

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Speaker 2: go over and might as well start with the reigning

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Speaker 2: national champions with Georgia. And I know your thoughts a

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Speaker 2: little bit, but you go through your Georgia spiel and

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we might as well. Obviously, Georgia at the top

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Speaker 1: of the pecking order once again, the odds on favor

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Speaker 1: to win a third consecutive national title. And Georgia. You

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Speaker 1: listen to some talk coming out of their camp, they

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Speaker 1: think they might break their own record for NFL draft

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Speaker 1: picks with this team here, even after what we've seen

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Speaker 1: them give to the NFL these past couple of years.

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Speaker 1: So of course they're on the top of my power rankings.

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Speaker 1: As you alluded to, they're over under is eleven and

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Speaker 1: a half, so you have zero margin for air one loss,

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Speaker 1: they go under. My adjust to win total though on

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Speaker 1: Georgia is eleven point seven, which interestingly is the exact

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Speaker 1: same adjust to win total that I had last year

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Speaker 1: on Georgia. Obviously they ended up winning the title. Again,

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Speaker 1: I have to pass on this one though, because we're

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Speaker 1: so close to the margins and again you know, not

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Speaker 1: having any any margin for air there. But what do

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Speaker 1: you think on the eleven and a half number, Mike.

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Speaker 2: So, I'm curious. You got a point twenty nine below twelve,

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Speaker 2: and I'm looking at the schedule and I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out which team that is. You know, it's certainly

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Speaker 2: not I mean, it's got to be Tennessee. You know,

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Speaker 2: they South Carolina, they're at home with.

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Speaker 1: An easy schedule.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very easy. At Auburn, Kentucky they should handle

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Speaker 2: you know, Florida, they should handle Missouri, they should handle Ole,

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Speaker 2: miss tricky. But at home, you know, at Tennessee is

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Speaker 2: the one that sticks out to me. So if you

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Speaker 2: look up and down the schedule, you think, can they

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Speaker 2: win at Tennessee?

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Speaker 1: And they can?

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Speaker 2: So I'm over. I think they're going to go undefeated

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Speaker 2: and which is stupid.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you.

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't take that bet. I'm like you, I'm a pass.

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Speaker 2: But if I have to choose, I'm taking the over.

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Speaker 2: Anything could happened, anything that happened.

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Speaker 1: See, Yeah, if I had a lean, I would go

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Speaker 1: over to You're talking the most talented roster in the

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Speaker 1: NCAA that is playing Phil Steele's number fifty six schedule strength,

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Speaker 1: It just says what or like Jordia gave itself another

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Speaker 2: So perfection is scary. It's so hard to do. You know,

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Speaker 2: you could have an injury to brock b Hoers in

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Speaker 2: week two. You don't know. You could have a quarterback

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Speaker 2: play not living up to par. You could have a

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Speaker 2: key injury on the defensive front. You just have no idea.

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Speaker 2: So perfection I still say over because I don't see

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Speaker 2: a loss here. But if I'm betting this and I'm

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Speaker 2: forced to bet it, you know the safe route is

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Speaker 2: under just assume they stumble through one game, still make

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Speaker 2: the SEC title game and go on and win the

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Speaker 2: National Championship. But you just assume somewhere along the hind

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Speaker 2: line here there's a stumble. The problem is they're going

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Speaker 2: to be favored, probably double digits in every game. Maybe

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Speaker 2: at Tennessee is seven or eight. But they're just going

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Speaker 2: to be favored. So I was saying over but I'm

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Speaker 2: not betting it. Ever, I'm not betting on perfection. It's

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Speaker 2: just too it's too perfect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Carson Beck takes over for Stetson Bennett. We'll have

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Speaker 1: to see there. That's really the only question that you

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Speaker 1: could have. They're just stacked across the roster. Outside of that,

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Speaker 1: it was interesting that Kirby Smart in the past, he

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Speaker 1: has gone to the Portal to sign quarterbacks before we

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Speaker 1: all remember JT. Daniels, et cetera. But he decided not

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Speaker 1: a ton of them yet. And if Beck isn't the guy,

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Speaker 1: if it turns out that he not the guy, you

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Speaker 1: only only have one bullet left with that rook is

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Speaker 1: a how do you pronounce the last in Vandergroff? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: A couple of touta guys that we just haven't seen

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Speaker 1: a pass. Uh, Mike, sounds like you're pretty close to

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Speaker 1: a pass on that one.

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Speaker 2: I think we can I always pick, but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think we can get better value on the board.

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Speaker 1: And and speaking of that, let's let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: next two as a group. Georgia's biggest competition in the SEC.

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Speaker 1: LSU and Alabama are very interesting to me, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you can like both of them this year.

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Speaker 1: I have my preference amongst the two. I'll be I'll

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Speaker 1: be curious to see what you say, Mike. But the

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Speaker 1: sports books, you know, and some of this is just

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Speaker 1: name recognition, but the sportsbooks installed Alabama is still ten

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Speaker 1: and a half their number across the entire board, every

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Speaker 1: single sports books you look at LSU, you can still

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Speaker 1: get at nine and a half at you know, basically

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Speaker 1: anywhere you shop at those two teams, where you know,

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Speaker 1: where would you be looking to bet on those two?

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Speaker 2: Mike, Well, the nine and a half for LSU, I'd

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Speaker 2: take the over. And now listen, everybody talks last season

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Speaker 2: about how amazing LSU was under Brian Kelly, the first

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Speaker 2: year they had ups and downs. You know, I know

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Speaker 2: this season ended pretty well for them by all respects,

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Speaker 2: but it's not like they win eleven and one. But

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Speaker 2: when I look at this schedule, you give me nine

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Speaker 2: point five, I'm taking the over. You give me ten,

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Speaker 2: I'm probably passing you. You've be ten point five. I'm

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Speaker 2: taking the under. But Florida State's a challenge. Obviously, the

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Speaker 2: SEC West is a challenge. Alabama is at Alabama. So

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Speaker 2: if I'm saying, you know, there's a potential loss at Alabama,

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Speaker 2: and then I'm saying, you know, Florida State might be

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Speaker 2: a potential loss, I'm still at ten wins. So I'm

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Speaker 2: taking the over there. Alabama, I've taken the under because

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Speaker 2: of the quarterback situation. Now, of course they've had quarterback situations,

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Speaker 2: you know, Barrett like Barrett and you know Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 2: well for Alabama. But ten and a half to me

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Speaker 2: is just a little too high. Texas is on that schedule.

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Speaker 2: The SEC West is is always a challenge. There could

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Speaker 2: be a stumbling block in there. It could be something silly,

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Speaker 2: it could be a Texas A and M. It could

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Speaker 2: certainly be LSU even though it's at home. You know,

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Speaker 2: so I'm taking the under for Alabama and I'm taking

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Speaker 2: the over for LSU.

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Speaker 1: As am I. Yeah, I really like this LSU team.

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Speaker 1: You know, last year they did have some ups and downs.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, specifically at the beginning of the season

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Speaker 1: Monday night game against Florida State and Kyshambute was pouting

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Speaker 1: and you had the close loss at the end, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, for a week everyone was talking

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Speaker 1: about all is Brian Kelly the right fit here? And

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Speaker 1: then they what did they win ten straight or I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: they went nine to one over their next ten games.

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Speaker 1: After that was this is the season where they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be really good because they returned just about everybody. The

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Speaker 1: Boute at receiver, but they were both mediocre last year.

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Speaker 1: You bring back the best one and you're receiving core

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Speaker 1: A neighbors. They also signed a bunch of portal guys

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Speaker 1: and like I said, basically everybody else on offense is back.

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Speaker 1: And then on defense they lost a couple of worker

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Speaker 1: be starters, but like the Studs. Stud Studs are back

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Speaker 1: led by Harrold Perkins, who was a nightmare quarterbacks around

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Speaker 1: the dark horse. They're at dark horse to get into

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff and contend for the national title.

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Speaker 1: For me, I think we're going to get a rematch

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Speaker 1: in the SEC title game, and hopefully this time Jayden

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Speaker 1: Daniels is not gimping around. But because I think this

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Speaker 1: of a venue. And then as far as Alabama, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. They only return nine starters this year,

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Speaker 1: four on offense, five on defense. You have quarterback questions.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I like any of their quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a Tyler Buckner guy. We've been hearing camp

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Speaker 1: reports that Simpson has been struggling and Milroe has all

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Speaker 1: kinds of issues throwing the ball. He's a great athlete,

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Speaker 1: over a full season either. Then their skill talent is

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Speaker 1: like he's gonna take over a running back. Probably more

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Speaker 1: The offensive line was patchwork last year as well. That

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Speaker 1: thing was way down. Can that jump back up? I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure about that. And then the defense, you got

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Speaker 1: to keep in mind that defense lost Will Anderson, Brian Branch,

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Speaker 1: those guys got drafted. It would be a real surprise

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Speaker 1: of Alabama's defense was even as good as they were

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Speaker 1: last year. So I see regression coming on both sides

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Speaker 1: this revolving door of assistant coaches where you know, and

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Speaker 1: coaching this this roster with only nine returning starters and

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Speaker 1: quarterback questions. My system's total on Alabama's nine point seven

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Speaker 1: against that ten and a half number, I'm even less

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Speaker 1: ballish than my system is. I think Alabama goes nine

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Speaker 1: they go eight and four. I'm definitely going under that

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Speaker 1: name brand value.

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Speaker 2: Eight and four though, I could just never see that happening. Ever,

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Speaker 2: if they to eight and four, then we're talking about,

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Speaker 2: you know, should save and retire talk? And you know,

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Speaker 2: nine and three. I see ten and two, you know,

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Speaker 2: but it's still under. So that we agree on the under.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. Moving to another name brand team where I

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Speaker 1: think the number that was put out for them, it's

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Speaker 1: sort of the opposite where they still have this stink

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Speaker 1: from last year, so the market still doesn't really trust them.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of circumstances around why this team

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Speaker 1: had that one year blip. The Texas A and m

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Speaker 1: agis still around the market, you can get them for

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Speaker 1: seven and a half. That that's their win total. H Mike,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about the Aggas. They're gonna bounce

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Speaker 1: back this year with with Bobby Patrino.

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Speaker 2: Man, so this is really gonna this is determined. You know,

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Speaker 1: They have a new look backfield. I actually think Kentucky's

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Speaker 2: The running game will be you know, more consistent and

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Speaker 2: they'll be solid as always. You know, the Stoops teams

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Speaker 1: Six and a half, I agree. I'm going over on that.

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Speaker 1: My systems win total seven point six for Kentucky. You

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me either. I'm definitely going under. It's sort of

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Speaker 1: So that's the kind of player you are. And now

429
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: you're going to Appy State where all their offensive linemen,

430
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: you know, it's like all the like Kobe Gossett and

431
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: guys like that, Like they would eskew athleticism for just

432
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: sort of the country strong brawler guys because that's that's

433
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: the guys that they had access to whatnot. But that's

434
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: what the system calls for, So I don't see the

435
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: fit there. Marx is an airback receiving back guy. Now

436
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a bunch of touches. As a runner,

437
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: how is he going to do running inside, especially if

438
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: they're not run blocking well for him, I don't know

439
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: how that's gonna go. And then Rogers, it's just a

440
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: totally different thing. He had done really good sort of

441
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: getting down the beats of the air raid and everything

442
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: like that, all the different cadences with that and whatnot,

443
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: but you have to go from that to this entirely

444
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: new scheme. And then on defense, they had a really

445
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: salty defense last year, as you recall, but they only

446
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: have four guys back on that side of the ball,

447
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: so it's hard to be timistic about that as well.

448
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: My system's win total on Misissippi State is five point eight,

449
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: so I'm definitely going under the six and a half. Mike,

450
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: we wanted to hit a couple other SEC teams really

451
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: quick before we move on to the Big twelve. Let's

452
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: talk about Tennessee and South Carolina, two teams that had

453
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: a very entertaining game last year. I don't know if

454
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: fallfans would agree with that assessment, but I had a

455
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: lot of fun watching it. Two very interesting teams, a

456
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: little bit on different ends here as far as their

457
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: Vegas win total Tennessee balls. Even though they lost Hen

458
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: and Hooker, lost a couple other guys, obviously, the two

459
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: receivers Tillman and Hi going to the NFL, They're still

460
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: installed as nine and a half their win total in

461
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: Vegas right now, we're as South Carolina more around what

462
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: we've seen. I think this was their their win total

463
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: last year, six and a half with those two, Mike,

464
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: what do you think about those two teams and specifically

465
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: against their their win totals.

466
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 2: Under on Tennessee. I think a nine and three season

467
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: would be great. Still haven't fixed their defense. They should

468
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: be a little bit improved in the secondary, but not

469
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 2: a ton. We don't know how good Joel Milton is.

470
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: You know, he could be great. He's got a great arm,

471
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: but you know, to to match what Hooker did, and

472
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: they lose their top two wide receivers, they lose their

473
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: best offensive lineman, I just go under, and then you

474
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: know with South Carolina, I'm going over, uh and not

475
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: bullish on them as far as a nine win football

476
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: team like the South Carolina fans are. You know, they

477
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: finished the season, you know, with beating Clemson in Tennessee

478
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 2: and now they think they're world beaters and they're not.

479
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 2: And I don't trust Spencer Rattler as far as I

480
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 2: can throw them, but he's got a much more talented

481
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: roster around him. He's got more weapons, and I think

482
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 2: they'll be able to go over that number.

483
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would, So I'm gonna shape both of

484
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: them under. So I agree with you on Tennessee. The

485
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: My total on Tennessee is is eight point four obviously

486
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: against the nine and a half number, I would have

487
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: to go under. And I agree with you know, sort

488
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: of what you were saying about that. I've never been

489
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: a big believer in Joe Milton because when you know,

490
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: we've seen him, you know, we got to see him. Uh,

491
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: what was it twenty nineteen when he started at Michigan,

492
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: the first couple of games before he got bench, and

493
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: then a couple of years ago before he got bench

494
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: for Hennon Hooker, and then of course at the end

495
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: of last season as well, when when Hooker got injured.

496
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: But he has that bazooka arm, which is why they

497
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 1: call him Bazuka Joe. And he has the athleticism, but

498
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: you just see too many mistakes there, specifically reading the field,

499
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: and too many times he fires fastballs into the chest

500
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: plates of linebackers and different stuff like that over an

501
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,479
Speaker 1: entire course of a season. That's the kind of thing

502
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: that can flip games, especially when your defense can't stop anybody.

503
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: Tennessee's defense last year was solid against the run, to

504
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: be fair, but Mike you you brought it up right

505
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: away when he brought up the Tennessee defense that their

506
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: their secondary. You said the secondary should be better. I hope,

507
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: so they better praise it. Can't be worse. They got

508
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: ripped up by everybody.

509
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 2: Last year except that except for Will Havis.

510
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: Everybody. Yeah, well Levis had a tough camp. Hig, But

511
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: that's what started the resurgence of Spencer Raller. He got

512
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,239
Speaker 1: to face the Tennessee pass defense. It was like, all

513
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the old Spencer Ratler was back. So

514
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: for that reason, I would shade Tennessee under as far

515
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: as South Carolina goes. I love what Beemer's doing. And

516
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: you know the fact that Ratler came back, was obviously

517
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: good for them and different stuff like that. They did

518
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: have a couple portal losses which stunk jaqein Bell leaving

519
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: for Florida State, you had Marshawn Lloyd leaving for the

520
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: other USC They did a good job of patching the

521
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: hole at tight end. They signed like three different guys

522
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: that I thought were starting caliber, but the running back

523
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: room is a concern for me. I was unclear as

524
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: to why they weren't able to get a better running

525
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: back in the portal. Assuredly they tried. Tray Shawn Ward

526
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: was one of them. Mike, They made a run at

527
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: tray Shawn, but Trey Shawn ends up going jumping up

528
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: to Kansas State. Thought that was a better situation for

529
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: him apparently. So my number on on South Carolina is

530
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: five point nine. It's not a play for me just

531
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: because you know, I do like the South Carolina team

532
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: a little bit. But at that six and a half number,

533
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: I if I had to say one, I would lean

534
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: it under. Before we get to the big twelve, which

535
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna break down here in a second, I want

536
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: to take a quick break and encourage everyone out there

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539
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540
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: I was putting some of those bets in Mike, and

541
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542
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Speaker 1: right when I put it in, you know, like it'll

543
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564
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Speaker 1: we we weren't drawing a paycheck from those guys. It's

565
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: it's good stuff. Uh, let's move to the Big twelve,

566
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: Mic starting Let's start at the top with the big boy,

567
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: the Texas Longhorns. Basically, my question for you, Mike is,

568
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: and we have a total on the long Horns of

569
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: nine and a half, is any team in the Big

570
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: twelve even close to Texas right now? If you look

571
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: at the sports Texas to win the Big Twelve, it's

572
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: literally even money like at most of the bucks. So

573
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: it's them against the field. Do you like, are you

574
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: going to take Texas over the field to win the conference?

575
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: And then my second question would be against that nine

576
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: and a half number over or under.

577
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: Man, it's tough. I mean, they got all the talent

578
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: in the world. They're the talented, most talented roster in

579
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve, but they're Texas and they always seem

580
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: to disappoint. You know, They've had one ten wins season

581
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: since two thousand and nine when Mack Brown, you know,

582
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: brought to the national title and that was the Tom

583
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: Herman year and he was fired a couple of years later.

584
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: They just don't win ten games, but this year they should.

585
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: So I'm on the over at Alabama. Maybe a loss.

586
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: He played them close last year before you know, quin

587
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: Yewers got hurt. But even if you chalk that one

588
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: up to a loss, you know the conference is deep,

589
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: but it's not. There's a lot missing. I mean TCU

590
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: lost a ton, Kansas State lost a lot of players

591
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: that made an impact on They're Big twelve championship.

592
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: Last year.

593
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: You got BYU and Houston on the schedule coming in

594
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: Iowa States thinks Texas Tech's going to be better. Oklahoma

595
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: they drilled you know, fifty billion or nothing last year.

596
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: I just can't find the three losses required to go

597
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: under some I'm over.

598
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: I can't either, Yeah, and you know you get nervous,

599
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: right like going over on Texas with a number like this,

600
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: for all the contexts that might just said. And every

601
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: single year it's like Texas back, Texas is back. But

602
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: when you this year, specifically in the Big Twelve, you

603
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: look at any power ranking out there, as far as

604
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: mine goes, Texas is fourth and then the next highest

605
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: team is Oklahoma. I think I have them nineteenth. You

606
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: have this huge discrepancy between Texas and then the rest

607
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: of the league, And I agree with you, Mike, like

608
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: most of the rest of that the Big Twelve is

609
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: wide open. Like the other team that faces Texas in

610
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve title game, I feel pretty confident saying

611
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: Texas going to be there unless yours gets hurt, and

612
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: even if viewers gets hurt. Now they have pretty good

613
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: quarterback up there. Ye. So yeah, and you.

614
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: Got Alik Murphy is excellent. I'm not ready this year

615
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: if he if they go from from from Quin he

616
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: was arch Manning, then take the under not ready Malik Murphy.

617
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's good. There's a lot of positives coming

618
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: out about Miligue Murphy. I mean, this could be Malie

619
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: Murphy's last year and Austin you might transfer out after

620
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: this year.

621
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: But he never play and be drafted.

622
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: Could Yeah, yeah, well, I do think he's gonna go

623
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: and find himself a starting job here somewhere, you know,

624
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: after this coming season. But if he is called in

625
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: the duty, I agree with you. I think I think

626
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: they're in capable hands. But yeah, like as far as

627
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: the team that theoretically, hypothetically they would play in the

628
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: Big Tall title game, that thing is wide open behind

629
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: them because you have a bunch of these teams like

630
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: clustered there. But as far as Texas goes, the clear

631
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: class of the Big twelve across the roster, you look

632
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: at it and you're ranking like the positions in the

633
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: Big twelve, Texas is one or two and every single one.

634
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: So I got to go over on that Texas one.

635
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: My total on Texas ten point six. So it's another

636
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: one where I'm over a win above what the Vegas

637
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: total is. So now, Mike, we're gonna move down into

638
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: sort of that second maybe maybe this would be more

639
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: like third tier, But this is one of the ones

640
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: that I liked. It's kind of off the beaten trail,

641
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: So I thought we would talk about these guys because

642
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: they're not getting a lot of hype this preseason. But

643
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: I think things might set up well for them to

644
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: have a little bit of a bounce back year. The

645
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State Cowboys. They returned thirteen starters, they only have

646
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: the Vegas win total of six and a half, which

647
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 1: obviously Gundy has made a habit of getting over that,

648
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: but he had the tough year last year. Then Spencer

649
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: Sanders transfers out ghost to ale Miss. Seems like Spencer

650
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: Caader are gonna be a backup this year. But we digress.

651
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: But I do think Oklahoma State could cobble something together here,

652
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: particularly against this super crappy schedule that they're facing. They

653
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: caught it right with both the out of conference they

654
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: could affect, and they certainly have a solid out of conference,

655
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: But in the Big twelve play Mike, before I kick

656
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: it to you, they get West Virginia, Kansas, Iowa State,

657
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: and all four newcomers are on Oklahoma State schedule. Texas, TCU,

658
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: Baylor are not. I think you know where I'm going, Mike,

659
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: But what do you think about Oklahoma State against that

660
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: six and a half?

661
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: You got a good coach too, I mean six and

662
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: a hal's very low. Olaoma State traditionally wins over six

663
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: and a half every year. Sometimes they'll pull that surprising

664
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: ten or eleven wins season. Last year they started off

665
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: great and then just fell apart. Their quarterback room is awful.

666
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: That's my only concern. But you couldn't it at six

667
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: and a half. I'm taking the over with a really

668
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: good coach who knows what he's doing. Like you said,

669
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: cobble together. If I'm betting, I'm betting on cobble together

670
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: seven wins with a just a horrible quarterback situation. What

671
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: the hell was he doing in the portal? I mean,

672
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: the portal is loaded with quarterbacks who have a pulse,

673
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: and he gets Alan Bowman who's on his fifth leg injury,

674
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: and then he's got his son in there and Garrett

675
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: Wrangle and I mean just I can't even describe how

676
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: bad this quarterback room is, and that could really, you know,

677
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: screw them. But I have saying this coach, he's a

678
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: good coach. He's going to cobble together seven wins with

679
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: that schedule. It's schedule so easy.

680
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: As someone who could never quit Alan Bowman. That hurts

681
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: me to hear Mike.

682
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: Years ago on one leg, not now.

683
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we haven't seen him for a whole long time.

684
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: For people out there that are like, wait, the Allen

685
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: Bowman from Cliff Kingsbury's Texas Tech Red Raiders. Yes, that

686
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: exist has gone on the.

687
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: NFL been fired. The last time Alan Bowman played a

688
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: good football game.

689
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't seen him in a while, the last

690
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: couple of years he's been on the Michigan bench. But

691
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: well to see at least he's familiar with with an

692
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: offensive system like this. And Oklahoma State's defense has to

693
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: get bad like they were one. You know, as I

694
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: was talking about TCU a little bit ago, where the

695
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: defense from year to year at Patterson's last year just

696
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: fell off a cliff. That's what happened to Oklahoma State

697
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: last year. They got a new defensive coordinator in they're

698
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: going to a three three five. Their defense is going

699
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: to be better. I'm going over that number, Uh, Mike, Now,

700
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: a couple of teams we can hit these ones in conjunction.

701
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: A couple of teams that I don't like as much BYU,

702
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: one of the newcomers, and then West Virginia BYU obviously

703
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: you know coming in they're they're a new luck team.

704
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: It's not just the the you know, the conference affiliation

705
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: different now. But outside of Sataki everything sort of change.

706
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: He got rid of the whole defensive staff, he got

707
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: rid of the strength coach. A couple of his offensive

708
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: studs went to the NFL. But then there was a

709
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: rash of portal guys leaving. So then Sataki hit the

710
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: portal hard to try to bring guys back to b YU.

711
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: Seems like they lost more talent maybe than they brought

712
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: back in Uh, they're going with Keaton slow Us in

713
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: the backfield. I don't know about old Keaton Slovas as

714
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: a freshman at US see way back in the day

715
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: when he's playing for Clay Helton, showed some promise, but

716
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: the luster has faded from mister Keaton's love is. I

717
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: like the running back a little bit, Aiden Baskin Robbins.

718
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: He's a tackle breaker, but he's not explosive. You know

719
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some efficiency there. But Mike BYU and

720
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: then hit on West Virginia as well. Let's let's talk

721
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: about these two teams. We have totals. The reason I

722
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: grouped him. Vegas has totals of five and a half

723
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: on ball.

724
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: I got the under on both.

725
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: B YU.

726
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: I think brings it normally brings a different brand of

727
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: football to the Big twelve. It's you know, they do

728
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: well with offensive lineman. They can play physical, they can

729
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: pound the ball. But you know, I really worry about

730
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: them holding out defensively against the speed of the Big twelve.

731
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: And I think they're going to get lit up quite

732
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: a bit. Yeah, and then West Virginia, he's probably going

733
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: to be fired by one two three for the fifth

734
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 2: game of the season. I mean, they're gonna lose a pence.

735
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: They they'll beat you team Neil Brown, the lose to pit,

736
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: the lose to Texas Tech, to lose that TCU, he'll

737
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: be fired and the new coach will come in and

738
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: try to put together, you know, four more wins to

739
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: get you and over. It's not gonna happen. So go

740
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: with the under on both of those.

741
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: I totally agree. Yeah, by you just lost too much.

742
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: And Mike, I totally agree with you, Like that's the

743
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: defense there is is just super bad. Last year, ninety

744
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: third yards per game allowed, and I it's like, I

745
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: know what they're trying to do. They hired the ex

746
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: Weaber state head coach to try to turn around the defense.

747
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: I think it's going to take longer than a year though,

748
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: especially with all the different guys that they ended up losing.

749
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: My adjusted a win total on by US five. So

750
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shade that under the five and a half.

751
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: And then as far as West Virginia goes, I couldn't

752
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: agree with your take more. Neil Brown. The only reason

753
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: that he's even still the coach there is because they

754
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: made the ill fated contract extension to him a couple

755
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: of years ago, where this is one of the things

756
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: I hate about college. It's like one of my random

757
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: pep peeves where you give the coach the extension when

758
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: nobody's coming after him, You're just you're you're bidding against

759
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: yourself and then you're you're.

760
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 2: Putting for living rooms and it's dumb.

761
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: It's dumb. Yeah, I mean like in that situation, it's

762
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: like what was West Virginia seeing where then you you

763
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: tie yourself up and then you see the manifestation of it.

764
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: I think in any other you know, if that contract

765
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: extension was not in place, I think Neil Brown would

766
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: have been fired last year. I don't think that's a

767
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: take that's out there whatever, but I agree like this year,

768
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: if things start off poorly and it looks from the

769
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: schedule certainly like it could. The fans there are going

770
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: to be calling for that guy's heat, and this will

771
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: start in September if it starts out bad enough. So

772
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: I think that whole thing could go down. The new

773
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: quarterback Garrett Green, we haven't seen a ton of him,

774
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: but he wasn't even as good as JT. Daniels on

775
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: the person at basis last year when he did play,

776
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: because we saw him just a little bit. The one

777
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: thing they got two things going for him. On offense,

778
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: you have CJ. Donaldson and you have a good offensive line.

779
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: But so you have that, but like, I just don't

780
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: think the passing game is going to be there. And

781
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: then the defense, they lost some of their best defenders

782
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: to the NFL, So I just yeah, with that thing,

783
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm out on that. The defense last year was one

784
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteenth in points per game allowed, so not

785
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: not good for West Virginia. We'll have to see how

786
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: Neil Brown does there. And Mike a couple of quick

787
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 1: hitters before we let the folks get out the door here,

788
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: want to talk quick about Kansas State, and then I

789
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: wanted to talk as well about one of the other newcomers,

790
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: in UCF. Let's start with Kansas State. They have a

791
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: Vegas total of eight and a half out there, some

792
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: bucks eight. You might maybe even a seven and a

793
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: half out there if you look hard enough. But they're

794
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: an interesting team, right they're turning it over to Will Howard.

795
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: Obviously they lost their their Darren Sproulls like stuff running

796
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: back in duce Vaughn, who is now warming the hearts

797
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboy fans everywhere. So you have to sort

798
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: of reconstitute what that offense has looked like here in

799
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: the past three four years. What do you think about

800
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: Kansas State? And when you're thinking about them against a

801
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: total of eight and a half, would you go over.

802
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: If you can get seven and a half, go over

803
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 2: eight and a half? Probably under I like Chris Cleman.

804
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: I like this team.

805
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: I think they're not going to lose a whole lot,

806
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: and they did win the Big twelve last year. I

807
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: just think, you know, Ducewan was so much of that offense,

808
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: he's going to be hard to replace. The schedule itself

809
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: isn't horrible. You know, they they get Texas, but they

810
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: don't get Oklahoma. You know, they've got some easy layup wins,

811
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: but I just can't get to nine and nine's a lot.

812
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: Nine and three is tough. So I'm going to take

813
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: the under. But if you can find it at seven

814
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: and a half, I think it's a really good over

815
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: at eight and four because that's what they're.

816
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: Going to go. Yeah. So I'm looking on one of

817
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: those things where they aggregated a bunch of them. Looks

818
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: like it is more seven and a half across the

819
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: market to your point. Yeah, So with that one, with

820
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: the seven and a half, that's very close to what

821
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: my adjusted win total is for Kansas State. I'm at

822
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: seven point two. So for me at that number, that

823
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: would be a stay away. It looks like the market

824
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: has been banging that thing down from where the opener was.

825
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, like they do have talent. I thought Will

826
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: Howard was better than Adrian Martinez when they were playing

827
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: last year because he gives you that element of stretching

828
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: the defense downfield obviously as a better passer than Martinez,

829
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: and he can he can fling it a little bit.

830
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: You don't get quite the mobility. I do like Treyshawn

831
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: Ward as well. I mean he got run out of

832
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: Florida State through no fault of his own. It's just

833
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: a Trey Benson is a Demi god running back like

834
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: Trey Benson is going to rip it up this year.

835
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: So I understand why Trey Seawn had to get out

836
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: of there. This should be a good spot for him

837
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: and he's plat tuning with that Gidtins kid, who was

838
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: also pretty solid last year when he got on the field.

839
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, and they do have a solid offensive line.

840
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: But you lose Felix. Who I Felix? I'm not going

841
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: to Yeah, Yeah, they lose Felix. You lose Brents as well,

842
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: so the defense could be in for a little bit

843
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: of a regression. That one's a stay away from me, Mike.

844
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: Let's just quickly talk about UCF. They have a win

845
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: total of six and a half, which I thought was

846
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: interesting in their first year in the Big twelve. They're

847
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: my highest power rated newcomer into the Big twelve. Do

848
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: you think they make a ball in their first season?

849
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: What do you think about that six?

850
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 2: There's a lot of talent on this football team. Gus

851
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: has done a good job in the portal. I think

852
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna hit the ground run and I think they

853
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: could win eight games, So six and a half is

854
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: very low to me. You know, again, they've got some

855
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: tough games. You know, at Boise State is not an

856
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Speaker 2: easy at a conference game, they're on the road against

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Speaker 2: Kansas State. But for the most part, you know, they've

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Speaker 2: got a lot of good games at home. They finish,

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Speaker 2: you know, with Houston, I think they should be Houston.

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Speaker 2: If they'll beat Oklahoma State, I think they'll beat West Virginia,

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Speaker 2: So I think they could finish strong get above that

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Speaker 2: six and a half number.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. My just win total on UCF is seven point one,

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Speaker 1: so I would lean over as well. They their roster,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit you know, like we were talking

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Speaker 1: about BYU or it's just like a hope and a

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Speaker 1: prayer at several different positions and whatnot, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: you look at another ucomer, like for instance, Houston, where

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Speaker 1: they're really good at a couple of positions, but then

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Speaker 1: some other positions just absolutely are not Power five caliber

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00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: right now, like you know, across the roster or whatnot.

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Speaker 1: So I'm a little bit more pessimistic on those. But

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Speaker 1: with UCF, you have a roster that's basically all power five.

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Speaker 1: They were either guys that came down from the Power

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Speaker 1: five as transfers or they're guys that chose UCF over

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Speaker 1: the Power five, and then they're being coached by a

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Speaker 1: guy who is very successful at the Power five level

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Speaker 1: before he came to UCF, in Gus. I think that

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Speaker 1: system will will work out as well, and it'll be

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Speaker 1: interesting because more of these these Big twelve teams going

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Speaker 1: to the three, three, five and whatnot, and Gus wants

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Speaker 1: to run the ball a little bit more. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he you know, they do have that spread offense whatnot,

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Speaker 1: but you have some thinner boxes there in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: And with the system that Gus runs and Rice Plumbley

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Speaker 1: getting out of the pocket and everything like that, I

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Speaker 1: think UCF could have success immediately running the ball in

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve. You just don't have a lot of

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Speaker 1: good run defenses in the Big twelve. So I think

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Speaker 1: what they do will at least translate good enough in

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Speaker 1: this you know, we talked about it. Behind Texas, you

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Speaker 1: have just a bunch of teams. They're kind of been

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Speaker 1: a quagmire. I think UCF will acquit itself. Okay as

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Speaker 1: far as that goes. So I'm gonna go over that

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Speaker 1: six and a half number and say they go seven

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Speaker 1: and five. Guys. That's all the time that we have

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Speaker 1: for today for Mike Ferrell. I'm Thorne Iceram. Join us

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Speaker 1: next time as we talk ACC and Pact twelve win totals.