1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to you between the horns. I 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: am Miles Simmons. To my right is DeMarco. Far is 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: September fifth, hit the sled eleven thirty am Pacific time. 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: We are here at the facility at Cal Lutheran. There's 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: no practice today. Today is kind of like the players 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Tuesday because they're playing on Monday night football, so today 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: is the player's day off. They will be back on 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: the practice field for their first practice, real practice of 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the regular season tomorrow evening. I lived my life at 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: Blockbuster during these days, all days. God, I've rent six 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: seven movies and no I'm not going to bring them 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: back on time. Just no, okay, yeah, but I'm gonna 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: watch have Fun Popcorn, just kind of barricade myself in 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: the house. Do you know you're really how my feet 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: up all day? I mean, like, I think people know 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: when your career was, but do you know how much 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: you're dating yourself just by saying Blockbuster. But it's the 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: same stuff they're about to do. They're gonna go home 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: and watch Netflix. I do that now, But I mean, 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: you have your feet up, you relax, You barricade yourself 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: from the world if you have a family. It's family day, 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I mean you try 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: to do everything you can not to move. Yes, this 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: is this is rest day. This is rest day because 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: what comes to the rest of the week is going 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: to be pretty big. I'm really excited for the regular season. 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: I'm always excited for the start of the regular season, 28 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: but this season in particular, right thing for Los Angeles 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Rams obviously has the potential to be great. Oh yeah, 30 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean the excitement is real. You know what you 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: see or and what you read, and you know the 32 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: roster and the depth chart that we talked about. That 33 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: stuff is real. The names are real, and they're all here, 34 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: they're all wearing RAMS uniform. So if they can translate 35 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: that that excitement to game day and actually live up 36 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: to the expectation, I mean, this is going to be 37 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: a fun ride. Yes, yeah, And I'm just I'm happy 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: that we're actually getting started. Preseason has been fun to 39 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: pass through a few things, but I mean this has 40 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: been you know, big time anticipation. Can't wait to see it. 41 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: I think the thing that we were anticipating the most 42 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: has already happened in terms of preseason stuff and that's 43 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Donny getting his big new deal, six year extent. 44 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: He was the highest paid defensive player in football for 45 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: about twenty four hours. But I think everybody is really 46 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: excited just to have him back and to know that 47 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: what you've projected with this defense is really going to start. 48 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: Just save that date and frame it and you can 49 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: always say I was the highest paid guy. Yeah, you 50 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: don't have to talk about you know, how long it 51 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: took to be to be, you know, topped. But yeah, 52 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Neo is back. I haven't been this 53 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: excited to see a guy player or to see like 54 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: to buy a ticket to watch entertainment as I was 55 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: when the Matrix two was coming out, Like when I 56 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: saw the first trailer. I'm serious, Like I like, I 57 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: was beside myself. I couldn't wait for the date, Like 58 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: May seventh, couldn't get here fast enough to see that movie. 59 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Monday night, can't get here fast enough so I can 60 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: see Aaron Donald play and not just him next to 61 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: those guys we've been talking about forever on defense. So yeah, 62 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm real, real excited for that. Yeah, you know, it 63 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: was really cool just to see all the reaction to 64 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald getting that deal from players for players for 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: a players that are tweeting things as teammates, other guys 66 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: from around the league. But I think what you're saying 67 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: is absolutely true. You just want to see Aaron Donald 68 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: get on the field and do the things that have 69 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: to this point just been on paper less. Need was 70 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: talking about that last week with reporters, saying that you know, 71 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: to this point, everything that you've talked about with Sue, 72 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: with Donald and Brockers, and then you pair that with 73 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: the key to lead Marcus Peters, your other two safeties 74 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: in the back end, John Johnson, LaMarcus Joiner, all of 75 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: that has been on paper, and now they have started 76 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: to see that at practice. We haven't you know, we 77 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: can't really watch practice anymore. But I think once we 78 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: see it on game day, it's going to be like, oh, 79 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: this really has the potential to be a special defense. 80 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun I mean, the one thing, and 81 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: this is funny when you for our perspective, we're in 82 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. We cover the football team, so we know 83 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: we get to see these guys in training camp, so 84 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: we know how hard they're working. But you know, around 85 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: the league, if you don't have eyes on this product 86 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: like we do. And you hear the Rams have rested 87 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: their starters the entire preseason or the defense hasn't really 88 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: played together the entire preseason. Well, I mean that's a 89 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: challenge to the other football team. The Raiders are going 90 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: to be warmed up, especially on that side of the football. 91 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: I know for certain that their offensive line, Marshawn Lynch 92 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: for the most part, their entire offense has played more 93 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: than this defense. So they're gonna have the advantage of prep. 94 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna be physically ready to play, and that's the 95 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: one thing you have to be concerned with. I have 96 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: no doubts this defense is going to be lights out, 97 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: but it's going to take a little bit of time 98 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: to get there because they haven't been together and they 99 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: haven't had preseason. So the first thing that jumps off 100 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: the page, tackling might be an issue. Yeah, they haven't 101 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: done it. Yeah, Marshawn Lynch has been through a few 102 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: car wrecks already, so he's going to be warmed up 103 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: and ready. The Rams are gonna have to kind of 104 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: step into the street fight and then get going right. 105 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: And that was one of the big deals about why 106 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: they wanted to get Aaron done. Yeah, at the time 107 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: where they got it done right, so that Aaron has 108 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: a week in, maybe a couple more days because they 109 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: had this couple of bonus days of practice, so he 110 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: can get acclimated, and so then he's going to be 111 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: more ready to be out there on the field and 112 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: contribute at the highest level. Heck, but look, as soon 113 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: as he's here, you play, Yeah, you play, You get 114 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: out there and play. Absolutely, He's let him find it 115 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: on the field, and I guarantee you he'll find it quick. 116 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: I bet there's at least six or seven guys in 117 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh area that are so happy that deal's done. 118 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: Take this guy back to LA so we can stop 119 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: beating on me. Yeah. I mean, there's there's no place 120 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: that you can really get real football training unless you're 121 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: on a football field. But you can simulate it as 122 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: close to possible as you can other places. But this 123 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: is the only place where you get a chance to 124 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: beat a guy. So he's gonna get that chance on 125 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: Monday night. He's gonna get that chance against one of 126 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: the better guards in the league. A simil league can play, 127 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: so can Gabe Jackson. So Aaron's gonna work himself up 128 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: to speed faster than most, but it's gonna be rough early. 129 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be rough early, Okay. I mean 130 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: what was interesting though, we heard. I spoke to Joe 131 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Barry a couple of days ago, and what he was 132 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: saying is that when you have a guy that comes 133 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: in like Aaron Donald and he practices for the first 134 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: time on Friday, it just it looks different. Now You're like, oh, 135 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: my goodness, is this guy good. I think he was 136 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: saying that they had about fifty plays that they went 137 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: through in that Friday practice. Aaron was involved in maybe 138 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty of them, and you're still saying, like, 139 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: whoa this guy changes everything? Yes, yeah, I mean the 140 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: Raiders are gonna know that and have a plan for that. 141 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: If I'm John Gruden the other way, I'm gonna pack 142 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: it in and slam it at you for a while. 143 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let Marshawn Lynch. I'm gonna let Doug Baldwin, 144 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: not Doug Baldwin, Doug Martin. Yeah, wear you down a 145 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: little bit because you haven't played just yet. Right, I'm 146 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: gonna see where you are. I'm gonna see if you 147 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: want to tackle today. So but eventually as that game 148 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: goes and you get in Aaron's wheelhouse, Look, he's the 149 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: best player in football man, regardless of offensive defense. Yeah. 150 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: If you get in that one on one situation with 151 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: these two monsters beside him, where it's just a guard 152 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: in a lot of space, I'm taking eron. Yeah. Yeah, 153 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: even without training camp, I'm still taking eron. Oh I think. Look, 154 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: we've all seen the Instagram videos, right, Yeah, you know 155 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: how hard he trains. And it was funny to hear 156 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: more coaches and less sneed even talk about the fact that, like, look, 157 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: when we get Aaron back, we know that he's been training. 158 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: I always ask him, and I did when we interviewed 159 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: him on Friday, how long did you take between the 160 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: end of the season and then when you got back 161 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: into the way room and started training. I like, if 162 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: it was more than two weeks, I'd be shocked. Okay, well, 163 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: this is what it always is. And I swear he's 164 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: answered like this for the past three years. He says, 165 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: I want to take two weeks. I tried to take 166 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: two weeks. The idea was to take two weeks, but 167 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: I got back in the way room after a week 168 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: because I don't want to get behind. And it's just 169 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: that mentality from him, Like he's such a relentless worker 170 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,559 Speaker 1: and he's always like that, and so like I started smiling. 171 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: I was kind of laughing when he started saying that 172 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: because it's been the same answer every single year, and 173 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: he was like, honestly, I did try. I did, yeah, 174 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: but I just I don't want to get behind. And 175 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: it's that's why he is the defensive player of you, 176 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: no doubt. And look, he's special and that's why you 177 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: just described it. Yeah, he's got with a lot of 178 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: guys need to really work to get that sort of 179 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: dedication to his craft. So when you start talking about 180 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: numbers and how much he costs, I usually end the 181 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: conversation with worth every penny he is. He is absolutely tremendous. 182 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: He's a mini hulk in there. Yeah. Yeah, he's not 183 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: just quick, he's not just fast. He's stronger than blank. 184 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and he's really really good. So yeah, I'm 185 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: glad they got the deal done. It's gonna be rough 186 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: for a hot minute, you know against that offense. John Gruden, 187 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: This is funny, man. The way I see this matchup. 188 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited for that matchup. The McVeigh Gruden matchup too. 189 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: This is like two pool sharks showing up at the 190 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: same bar. So just spin your bar stool around, hold 191 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: your beer and watch and have some fun. I can't 192 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: wait to see what they throw at each other. We'll 193 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: talk more about that, but I do want to get 194 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: hit on this from when I was speaking to Aaron Donald, 195 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: because it was it was an interesting thing for him 196 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: to say, and it got him a little emotional. When 197 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: I was I asked him, you know, who are you 198 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: thinking about as you signed this? What are you gonna do? 199 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: And he said, the best moment I had was calling 200 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: my parents and being able to say that you're retired, 201 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah you're done. Awesome. I You've done so much for 202 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: me and now you just you relax. It's on me now. 203 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Awesome And like that. You know, you see Aaron Donald 204 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: and you think of him is like he's a smiley character, 205 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: you know whatever, But like that seeing him answer that 206 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: question and really kind of get emotional about it, like 207 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: just talking about his parents and knowing how his dad 208 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: has really trained him, always told him hard work pays off. 209 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: And you know, we start this behind the grind where 210 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: you go into his dad's basement and you see exactly 211 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: where things got started with him. To me that that 212 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: was awesome. You know now now for him and everyone 213 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: who's been through this, now your first seven figure pay day, 214 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: now he's eight, but yes, your first seven figure pay day, 215 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: it's like wow, you know, wow, wow, it's a wow moment. 216 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: It's life changing money it is, it changes your entire life. Said, 217 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: this is different for your parents, is different for you. 218 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: Now you have to learn to live in this world. 219 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: So when I heard him talk about pressure, this pressure 220 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: that comes with it, it's not the money. And this 221 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: guy doesn't worry about who he's playing. I mean he 222 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: has respect for his opponent. But yes, yes it's not fear. 223 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: But you have to learn to live and operate in 224 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: this When you don't have that burning desire to say 225 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: I want mom and dad to stop working. Well it happened. 226 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: Now all that's been taken care of. Your whole life 227 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: is completely different. You're there now, keep it going. So 228 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: you can look at it one way, take a rest, 229 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: I've did it. I'm done. I don't think that's him, 230 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: or you can take it this way as in you're 231 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: an artist and you're funded for life, so all you 232 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: have to do is make art. Now. His is painful, 233 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: it could break bones, but this is the You have 234 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: earned the right to do this and worry about just 235 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: this right forever. Yeah, oh my god, how scary is 236 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: that for the rest of the week. Yeah, it's like 237 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because he did say that the contract 238 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: thing going through it was stressful. He didn't like being 239 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: away from the team, being away from football as he 240 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: was yea, and it was just interesting. Yeah, some guys 241 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: would have broke man for that reason. It should pull 242 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: on you to be here if you're truly a part 243 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: of this wonderful team sport that is football. Yeah, being 244 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: a way should suck. I don't know how people can 245 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: hold out and be happy right, Yeah, you know what 246 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, you should. I agree to have a 247 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: burning desire to be here, and some guys do short 248 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: circuit what they could have been paid with that desire 249 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: by coming back too soon. And he stuck it out. 250 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: The guys. He's tough. He's tough both ways. You gotta 251 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: give him respect, yes, absolutely, But now I think just 252 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: wanting to see him Brockers and Sue in the same 253 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: place on that same line that that's gonna be something 254 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: that it's almost hard to describe and think about, because 255 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: we saw Sue out there just with this defense and 256 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: with Brockers right, and how you know, you get pressure 257 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: coming from the Shawn Watson's left, and then Watson rolls 258 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: to his writ and then Sue Blastom. We already saw that. 259 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think having those three guys up front 260 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: is going to do wonders for this defense as a whole, 261 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: because you can't just key in on one of them. 262 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: Warren Sap used to when he was in Tampa, that 263 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: Tampa two, that Gray defense, Derek Brooks, John Lynch behind him, 264 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: and a bunch of people that were there with him, 265 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: and Gruden his head coach. But he used to consider 266 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: himself Geghas Khan. I'm serious, like Genghis Khan. His job 267 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: was to kick a hole open in your wall and 268 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: then they flood in. That's how he thought, that's why 269 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: he was so great. But I'm serious, that's exactly what 270 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: he did when he dominated from that three technique position. 271 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: It just opened everything else up for that entire defense. 272 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: Tampa two is not that complicated. It's not that complicated 273 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: at all, if you've got four guys that can rush, 274 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: you've got a defense because you've got the extra guy 275 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: behind you in coverage. Right, So if that three technique penetrates, dominates, 276 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: gets up, the field is remotely credible. The defense takes 277 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: off every defense and stakes off. Now, imagine if that 278 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: guy was the best player in the game in the 279 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: same situation where that guard can't get help from the 280 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: center or tackle, it's just him and the three technique. Yes, 281 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: it just opens everything up for the defense. Do you 282 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: think how do you think that affects the back end? 283 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean just in terms of speeding things up. You 284 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: don't get double moves. You don't get very many double moves, 285 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: like as a corner, their first move, that route you 286 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: see from a receiver, it's probably going to be the 287 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: one he's running. Sometimes you'll get set up it looks 288 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: like a normal out and then he breaks it up 289 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: or breaks it back or what have you. It's called 290 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: a double move. You don't get many of those because 291 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks can't stand back there. The pressure is coming every 292 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: now and then. Look, every team gets tired, and aaron 293 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: is humans. Sometimes you get tired in your pass rush 294 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: and you can't get there or the other guy wins, 295 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: and you have a chance for that to happen, but 296 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: you'll see fewer than most. You just can't hold the 297 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: football that long, so you've got to leave out there. 298 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: You've got Peters, You've got LaMarcus Joinner that are all 299 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: jumping the first route for the most part, so that 300 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: changes everything. Pressure changes everything in football. I think it's 301 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: just gonna be really good to see those guys. It's 302 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: gonna be fun to watch because this is not the 303 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: kind of defense I think that the Rams had last year, 304 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. And I don't mean to disparage 305 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: those guys who are on the twenty seventeen Rams, because 306 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: they clearly were good enough for the Rams to win 307 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: that division. But I just think from the standpoint, if 308 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: you've got two guys who are really perfect for Wade 309 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: Phillips system on the outside of corn right, we've seemed 310 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: to lead, really excel and win a Super Bowl with 311 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips doing the things he's done, and now Marcus Peters, 312 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: to me, is maybe the most underrated kind of value guy. Man. 313 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys can hear this, but 314 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: there's some car stuff going on that it's just a 315 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: little bit distressed player's day off and the players the 316 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: toys get bigger, the toys are are really as Yeah. Yeah, 317 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: some Dodge Charger stuff going on back there. While you 318 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: know what's funny as I'm gonna do a car interlude. 319 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: You see Aaron's new car. No, I haven't was a 320 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: Fisker Karma. It's beautif. I don't even know what that 321 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: is exactly a Fisker Karma. Yeah, man, Wow, what does 322 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: that look like? I'll well, yeah, but like he got 323 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: on social media, but like it's it's freaking that's awesome. 324 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: Good for him, You've earned it. Yeah, to talk about 325 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, contracts, toys like that's Aaron's toy. And I 326 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: remember man sitting in San Francisco and Candlestick. I mean 327 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: this is when the Niners were just great, when they 328 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: had Jerry Rice, when they had like Hall of Famers, 329 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and you know we were for Bronco type 330 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: Team Bronco. Right, I mean, you're happy, and then let's 331 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: see Jerry Rice and all these guys pull up in 332 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: like Lamborghinis and stuff like stuff you couldn't eat. What 333 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: is that? Like? Wow, there's a different side to this league. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 334 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: that's intimidating if you see that as an opponent. Imagine 335 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: if you're like this young guard that has to block 336 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald that day in his own house and you 337 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: see him pull up in that you don't even know 338 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: what yeah, yes, wow. So Serena asked me this question 339 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: actually when we were doing RAMS report, and I want 340 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: to bring it up here because I think it's it's 341 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: an interesting topic. Who do you think benefits the most 342 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: on the RAMS from Aaron being back? Oh man, um, 343 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: anybody on the outside of him. It could be Eblecom, 344 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: it could be Matt Longacre. Anybody that lines up to 345 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: his immediate well, it's hard to say what his what 346 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: his best password aside is. I'll say when he puts 347 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: his right hand down, so the left defensive and outside linebacker. Um, 348 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: when he's flying off the football and he's going up 349 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: the field, there's gonna be lanes everywhere because you have 350 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: to slide to him, and how fast and how strong 351 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: he is. So anybody to his immediate outside is going 352 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: to benefit, no doubt. What if that he's okay? And 353 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: everybody in the back end because you can't hold the 354 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: football right and Jared got because you get the ball 355 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: back more that Okay, so you've literally answered the same No, 356 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean no, I think that's good. It just means 357 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: that we're on the same best play. You're in the 358 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: game coming back to the field. Everybody yes, of course, 359 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: even the guy in the Nosebleau yes, well yeah, no, 360 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: but I think that's right just because of the way 361 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: Aaron changes the game. Look, yeah, it was funny. I 362 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: think talking to Dompkins Sue a couple of weeks ago, 363 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: and he said that when you're working pass rush a 364 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: lot of the times a three technique and then the 365 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: edge rusher to his opposite side of the line, are 366 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: the guys that are going to work together in tandem 367 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: with the most because you've got that inside pressure and 368 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: then the other guy is coming around the other side, right. So, 369 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: and I asked him, like, oh, is that something you 370 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: feel like you're going to be able to do here? 371 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: And he's like, I think that might be giving away secrets. 372 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: So well, that's something that's interesting just to think about. Right. 373 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: If you have I don't think you're technique and then 374 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: you have Sue on the outside, does that like just 375 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: make an offensive line's mind explode because who you block, 376 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: it's not trade secrets. Turn on any RAMS video of 377 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: the last five years, you'll see the same. You'll see 378 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: what we're talking about and who it benefits and why 379 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, and and how that plays into Aaron being 380 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: unblockable because he realizes how you're trying to block him 381 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: at some point and then changes his approach. Um Jamon 382 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: Brown Um I asked him like I was complimenting Jamon 383 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: on how much better he's gotten as a player, and 384 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: then we talked about blocking eron if you can block 385 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: Aaron in practice, you can block just about anyway. And 386 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: what makes him so much better than everyone else? There's 387 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: almost nothing you can do if you get your hands 388 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: on him. He's strong enough to get him off, he 389 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: can run by. He's got great technique working with knives. Yes, 390 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: there's nothing he can't morph into. And there's nothing he 391 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: relies on more than one. Like some guys relied on speed, 392 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: some guys rely on power. It depends on how you 393 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 1: set Aaron it is. It depends on what set you 394 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: give him as to what Aaron you'll see on that play, right, Yeah, 395 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: that means you're great, right well, And it's also why 396 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: he can play on the inside and then on the 397 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: outside as we've seen. You know, I think we saw 398 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: it a little bit with Greg Williams where he was 399 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: playing on the outside back. I think that, yes, But 400 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: also I know when we saw last year during the 401 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: Atlanta game too. Yeah, where I think it's not necessarily 402 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: as much necessity as it is just scheme and where 403 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: this guy can attack. The defense is weak point, you know. 404 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean you'd have to be in 405 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: the meeting room, but I mean just being a former 406 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: guy out there, Yeah, I bet Aaron can call his shot. 407 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like if he says, hey, bump inside, I'm 408 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: gonna take this guy, well, you do it. That didn't 409 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: come from That's just the way it is. Production, equal tolerance. Yeah, 410 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: if he feels I've got the best advantage, I'll take it. 411 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: You slide here and do my job. Yes. Yeah. Well 412 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: we've talked about the defense a lot and how they 413 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: benefit with Aaron Donald coming back and everything, but as 414 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: this is really the first podcast of the regular season, 415 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: I want to talk offense too, because I think there's 416 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: something to what this growth can be. How much difference 417 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: do you expect out of this how much do you 418 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: expect the offense to be different from what it was 419 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: last year. I think, um, you're gonna see some different 420 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: stuff because Brandon Cooks is here now, right. Yeah, So 421 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean kind of combine if I could combine what 422 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: Sammy Watts was giving you and Tavon Austin Sammy Watkins, 423 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: Sammy what did I say? Watts? I'm sorry, Sammy Watkins? 424 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: Who Sammy Wats, I don't know. Oh my god, thank 425 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: you for stop. Wow, Sammy Watkins on Tavon Austin. Combine 426 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: those two players. Oh yeah, well that's so, I know. 427 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: Will it change? Yeah, it'll be a little less obvious 428 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: when Tavon's in. Where wasn't you kind of knew what 429 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: the game plan right now? With Cooks, you don't know. 430 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: It's either he can take you on a go route 431 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: and he can hit you on it, in and around 432 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: you can. Yeah, so the deception will be there more 433 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: than it was last season, which helps the Rams. You 434 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: know what phrase I always think about, it's the illusion 435 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: of complexity. Yeah, yeah, because that's something that Sean McVay says. 436 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: It's also something that Matt Lafleur started to say. I 437 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: mean he picked it up obviously being the offensive coordinator 438 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: here now the offensive coordinator in Tennessee. I was reading 439 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: something the other day and he used that same phrase. 440 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: Jared Goff has used that phrase, you know where you 441 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: have plays that start out the same but they end 442 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: up different. You know, have things that look different but 443 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: actually it's the same. That I think we're going to 444 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: see even more of this season with that Sean McVay 445 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: offense in year two in Los Angeles. Well, it's that 446 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: one play that Mike Leach just ran. This is a 447 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: great example of what we're talking about. What do you 448 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: call that simplicity complexity or the illusion of complexity? Illusion 449 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: of complexity? That big gulp formation. Have you seen that formation? 450 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: It's it's the wildest looking formation ever. It's crazy. But 451 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: all he did was run a simple little zone play 452 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: to the end. So it looks complicated, but he's just 453 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: running the football. So you know, the rams could call. 454 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: Everybody calls inside outside zone. Yeah, the whole runs inside 455 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: outside zone. But how you get to it. That's the 456 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: illusion of complexity. So we're just going to run an 457 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: outside zone here, but we're gonna quit count you, or 458 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna go no huddle to get to it. So 459 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: it's just how you get to those plays that make 460 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: it look like it's magic, but really it's it's the 461 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: same play you've defensed a thousand times. They just got 462 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: to it quicker than you. And that's what happens. When 463 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: you start burying tempos and doing different things like that. 464 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: It allows you to kind of catch a defense off guard. 465 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: And that's why I think so many of those plays 466 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: last year were just wide open passes for golf. That's 467 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: what That's the fear I have for Gruden's. Like I said, 468 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: he's not stupid. Oh yeah, yeah, he's he's not dumb. 469 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: He knows who the Rams have on defense. Yes, and 470 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: what is he going to do to come back that? 471 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: And how I can't wait to see that? Yes, that's 472 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: the thing that scares me. That is definitely going to do. 473 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: There's going to be a wrinkle, yeah, that you haven't 474 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: seen or prepared for it, just like the Rams. Sean 475 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: mcvagh has a thousand things you haven't seen or prepared 476 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: for it, and you're gonna be caught flat footed on defense. 477 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: That's the the element of prize to any offense, especially 478 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: this one. But John Gruden is also a smart guy. 479 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: He's been in this game a long time. He's gonna 480 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: have something you're not ready for on game day. Do 481 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: you think that Todd Gurley can get more yards and 482 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: more touchdowns than last season? Yes? Especially running? Yeah, okay, look, 483 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: this is funny. This week Monday or for the rest 484 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: of the year. It's MVP versus VIP. Todd's the MVP. 485 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: And this is gonna sound really gross. Right. Have you 486 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: ever seen like a Rambo knife or been to like 487 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: a store where they sell knives and some of these 488 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: The craftsmanship on these knives, they're awesome, and the way 489 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: they're shaped and looked and all this looks I don't know. 490 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: I don't know where you're going with it. It's a 491 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: piece of art, though, right right, And after you get 492 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: finished looking at how pretty this thing is, you realize 493 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: this is made for one thing. Well, that's Todd. You 494 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: unleashed that, you do that's your best weapon on offense, 495 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: You unleashed that against everybody, especially running the ball. Yes, especially, 496 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: so sure he can score more. I expect a lot 497 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: of explosive runs with the way they plan to use him. 498 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: And he's never going to be better than what he 499 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: is right now. He is in his prime, he was 500 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: at his peak. Run him absolutely, and he also says 501 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: he's feeling really good. That's use that his body right now, 502 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: he was saying the other day is and as good 503 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: as it's felt, starting irregular and he's in condition for it. 504 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: So that's MVP or MDM Most Dangerous man. Use that guy. Okay, 505 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: VIP is Jared, Okay, Yeah, you make sure you have 506 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: secret service for him. You need him to be you 507 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: need him to be upright, right and good and great, yes, 508 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. Right yeah, So it's 509 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: MVP Monday. Use Todd, VIP Jared. Make sure he doesn't 510 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: get tagged all right, well, in terms of making sure 511 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't get tagged. That actually leads us into our 512 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: next discussion of the fifty three man roster as it 513 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: was first constructed when cutdowns had to come in on 514 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: Saturday at one o'clock Pacific times. So one of the 515 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: interesting things about that roster is that the RAMS kept 516 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: basically three backup linemen and all of them are rookies. 517 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: Now right now, yes, absolutely, right now. It's it looks 518 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: like Austin Blythe is going to be the right guard 519 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: for the first two games of the season as Jamal 520 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: Brown is suspended, So that does leave you that three 521 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: extra linemen who are going to two of them probably 522 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: will be active. So those are going to be Joe 523 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: Nope Boom third round pick, and you've got Brian Allen center. 524 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: You've got center protection. Yes, and then you also have 525 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: Jamale Denby and you've got a floater yes, yeah, exactly. 526 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: No Boom is your left tackle insurance. Yes, yeah, yeah, 527 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: he's probably your Both those guys have had All three 528 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: guys have had enough reps that if you were thinking 529 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: of them as starters, you'd be okay starting them. With 530 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: the amount of reps as they took in training camp, 531 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: end preseason, they're ready to play. So they got those 532 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: guys ready to play. That was a good thing about 533 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: not having your front line play as much. Yes, definitely, 534 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: for sure. I think when you look at it, you 535 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: can see that Nope Boom had some of the most 536 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: snaps of any preseason player on offense, which I think 537 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: speaks to your point. They got him ready to play 538 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: just by giving him that game experience because he's a 539 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's being taught, maybe it's just him, 540 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: but when you see a guy vary his sets like that. 541 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: That's that's experience. That's that's veteran type play where he 542 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: passed sets, it's different. Every time he'll give the defender 543 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: one hand, he'll take it away. He'll quick count you, 544 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: all quick sets you. He'll do a lot of things. 545 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: That's experienced play at left tackle. That's a guy you'd 546 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with in this offense if you had to 547 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: go an extended period. Because I think a big reason 548 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: is because Josh Reynolds. Yea, so this job jumps really high. 549 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: He jumps really touchdowns. We like Josh Reynolds never know 550 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: who will walk by. I'm gonna start calling people out. Yeah, okay, 551 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: you made me lose my train of thought. Oh you 552 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: know what, Joe no boom, Yes, all right. So I 553 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: think the big reason why he looks like a veteran 554 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: is because he is one of the best veterans in 555 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: the league. Mentoring him and being willing to mentor him. 556 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: It was relentless. Aaron Crow is a drill specialist, a technician. 557 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: He will teach you and so sometimes as a player, 558 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: when you're not in you get a chance to drink 559 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: water and just relax. Well no, not when Andrew Whitworth 560 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: is off that day, you're gonna get coached more. Yeah. Yeah, 561 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: it's all good. It's all good stuff, and it's gonna 562 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: help you be better. It's just wow, rookie, you're getting 563 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: it from all sides. Well, you're getting it. But they 564 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: have they feel like they had to get this guy 565 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: ready to play and quickly. And I think just from 566 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: the standpoint of, all right, you don't have anyone else 567 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: right now on your offensive line who's not going to 568 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 1: be starting, who has any experience, right you know, you 569 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: had somebody like that in Cornelius Lucas, you had somebody 570 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: in like that and Darryl Williams. Those guys have gone, 571 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: you know. They was interesting talking the Lessoned. He said 572 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: that they're really trying to bring back Aaron Nearie for 573 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: the practice squad, but the Browns claimed him. Right, so 574 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: you don't even starting. Yeah, definitely could at some point. 575 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: Or they have a couple of former Ram offensive line 576 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: over there now. Greg Robinson is there too. I mean 577 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: Darryl and Lucas. Daryll Williams and Lucas, there are guys 578 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: you can trust to know what they're doing, right, But 579 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: in tough situations versus who they're playing. It did make 580 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: you hold your breath a little bit. Yeah. Well, I 581 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: think at some point, with the more reps, Joseph note 582 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: Boom gets he's going to be better than both players. Yeah, 583 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: and I think he might be there already. Yeah, he 584 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: just got here. Yeah. So yeah, I mean you're losing 585 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: experience or game experience, but you're gaining a really good, 586 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: a better player. In my opinion, I would agree with you. 587 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: And I think that when they saw note Boom be 588 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: able to block Clowney, to be able to block Watt 589 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: against the Texans, it's sort of solidified in their minds. 590 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: All right, you know what, this is a guy that 591 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: we know, we can trust. He looked like Joseph note 592 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: Boom against those guys ever, like you see a guy 593 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: in practice or in games against I don't want to 594 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: say no name guys, but not all pros, and they 595 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: look great, and then when they get in against all pros, 596 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: they look like a completely different guy. Yes, well, note 597 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: Boom looked like note Boom. Yes, he looked like he 598 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: looked like the guy that expect in practice, Yes, exactly. 599 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, so that's one position in the offensive line. 600 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: Anybody anything else sort of surprise you about the fifty 601 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: three man construction. Justin Davis pleasantly surprised. Yeah, because I 602 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: mean we didn't see him that much in games, and 603 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: i'd hoped, you know, your inner hope is I hope 604 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: he's shown enough to stay here because he's really good. 605 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: He's really talented. Yeah, yeah, he can make some things 606 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: happen in this offense. He is. I think he's a 607 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: player on the rise. So I was happy to see 608 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: that he was. His name was still there once the 609 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: final fifty three came out. Yeah, I agree with you. 610 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: It was interesting looking at him from the standpoint that 611 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: you've got also John Kelly, who did so much in 612 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: the preseason and looks like he could really be a 613 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: dude for you on the offense. But they seem to 614 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: really like Justin Davis. They did last year. I mean, 615 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: he made the initial fifty three man roster last year 616 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: as well, didn't get much playing time, but he was 617 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: still there. I think right now he could be an 618 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: important player on special teams. We'll see, I mean, we'll 619 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: see what his role is going to be and what 620 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 1: he does with it. But I mean, what I do know, 621 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: I liked when I saw him carrying the football outside 622 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: of I think a few when he put it on 623 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: the ground once or twice way back when. Yeah, yeah, 624 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: outside of that. I mean, I love his wiggle. I 625 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: love the way he operates in space, just like John Kelly. 626 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: I love the way they operate in space and how 627 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 1: they get to space. So when you think of this 628 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: running back room with Todd leading the way, the tip 629 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: of the spears, so to speak, Malcolm Brown being the 630 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: key backup, Yeah a guy to me, you play beat 631 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: the clock with Malcolm, he just beat you to death. Yes, 632 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: And then those other two that you can mix and 633 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: match and possibly get something explosive about him and special teams. Yeah, 634 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good room. I agree. Yeah, I agree, 635 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: tight ends room. It's a little bit different. John Munt 636 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: makes the squad earned it over to Merrick Hemingway, and 637 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: I agree with you that he definitely earned it. Hemingway 638 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: comes back on the practice squad, So there's a chance 639 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: that he could be elevated. He could still latch on 640 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: with the team for next year. But that I think 641 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: maybe people didn't necessarily expect, but I think you and 642 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: I both did. Yeah, I mean, I guess if you're 643 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: counting up and targets and whatnot, and might say that 644 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: that Munt got more targets. Well, that doesn't mean they 645 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: just call his number more than the other guy. Knowing 646 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: your assignment really helps, Yeah, especially when that play might 647 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: be your play. Right. Yeah, so look, he earned it. 648 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: I think he's a great twinter type, a move guy 649 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: cut similar to the Raiders, well what they have right, Yeah, Well, 650 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: I think that you're sort of replacing Derek Carrier, who 651 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: is with the Raiders with John Mutt right, has shown 652 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: that he has that ability to be that role. Jared Cook, 653 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: They're tight end is absolutely dangerous. He is, especially when 654 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: he's detached. When he's detached, he is absolutely dangerous. And 655 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: the ball I'll answer two questions. How do I think 656 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: teams are going to attack the Rams defense? Probably go 657 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: out to the linebackers with tight ends. Yes, yeah, you 658 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: might think you have an advantage there. I would bet 659 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: John Gruden thinks the same thing. Yeah. But going back 660 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: to this group, as long as Gerald Everett is healthy 661 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: and lives up to potential, gets better than he did 662 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: from rookie year to next, takes us step. If everybody 663 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: takes a step, I think at least the tight end 664 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: will be a factor position in this offense unlike last season. 665 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, Yes, Gerald Everett I think is the 666 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: biggest X factory probably on the offensive unit right now. 667 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: Changes everything. Yeah, he really does. I mean he has 668 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: the ability to freeze personnel. Really. I mean, if if 669 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: you're if he's making players in the offense is making 670 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: players and you have to match up with him, that'll 671 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: open you up for pretty much anything. It's it's hard 672 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: to match up, it is. I remember last year in Arizona. 673 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: I think they went for it on fourth and goal. 674 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: They were inside the five yard line, and they had 675 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: they had Gerald Everett matched up on a smaller safety 676 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: and I don't remember if it was the Honey Badger 677 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: or somebody else, but he just ran a little slant 678 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: route that we saw so many times with Sammy Watkins. 679 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: But you just have to get the ball to Gerald 680 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: Everett because he's a big target. You can have that 681 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: matchup kind of nightmare for defense that you have to 682 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: take advantage of as an offense. Those hybrid type spend 683 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: um those Kelsey's those I wouldn't say Gronk Gronk's old school. 684 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: That's just that's a low motive. But I mean those 685 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: hybrid type guys are really dangerous. They're in vogue and 686 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: they do so much damage to the defense just by 687 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 1: being out there and where you put him, Um just 688 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: create a lot of confusion. So as if he can 689 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: be that guy for this offense, it was great last year. 690 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: If he can add another dimension to this, wow boy 691 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: look out. Yes for sure. M switching to defense outside 692 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: linebacker is a spot where it had two sort of 693 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: lower round draft picks who were able to make the 694 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: squad in Justin Lawler and then also Trevon Young. That 695 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: that kind of surprised me that they kept both of 696 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: those guys. Lawler, Um keep working with him, but first 697 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: and second down love him. Yeah, He's He's a guy 698 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: that I think that that operates with like a perpetual 699 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: bloody nose, you know what I mean, Like those old 700 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: NFL films. He's like, yeah, just bleeding from differ from 701 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: parts of his body. But he's out there. He's just 702 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: he's so physical and he's so strong, and he seems 703 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: like he's so ready for it, you know what I mean, 704 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: Like this is not a surprise to him. Yeah, I 705 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: agree with you on that. I was talking to Joe Barry, 706 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: linebackers coach, the other day, and what he was saying 707 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: is that even though Waller is kind of playing a 708 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: different spot than he did in college, when they brought 709 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: him in f one of those top thirty visits, they 710 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: really got a good understanding of who Lawler was and 711 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: how he would be able to fit and how we'd 712 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: be able to work into making a good transition into 713 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: being an outside linebacker out here. So that's interesting. Like 714 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: tight end man um, it's just funny. With the exception 715 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: of Tony Gonzalez, I think, and I'd have to check again, 716 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: how many guys do you know that actually go out 717 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: for tight end? Uh? Not many? You wind up there? Yeah, 718 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: outside there, outside linebacker. You can you can make guys 719 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: a fullback or you know a four three linebacker that 720 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: is really good in space. Okay, let's make him an 721 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: outside guy. Let's see how you're rushes. He's great on 722 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: the Let's let's make him do it all the time. 723 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: You know, you might find a player like that. Lawler 724 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: could be that type guy. Yeah, yeah, on rundowns, especially, 725 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: not afraid to bang heads with tackles or tight ends. Well, 726 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: give him the nature of the way the outside linebacker 727 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: position has just had so many injuries over the course 728 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: of the off season in training camp, and yes, they're 729 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: they're getting guys back. Matt Longacres feeling pretty good. He 730 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: should be back, and he's definitely going to be a 731 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: huge contributor in this year. You've got Samson Abucom who's 732 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: had that outside linebacker spot on lock. But I'm just 733 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: thinking about guys like Morgan Fox, you guys that you 734 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: were really kind of counting on that you're you're not 735 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: going to have in this early going. But justin Lawler, 736 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: I think was the recipient of extra snaps early on 737 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: because of those injury situations, and that can only help 738 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: him now getting on the field. That's that's the best 739 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: way to get better. Matt longacre Um. I want him 740 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: to lead the league in sacks. Lead the league. I 741 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: want him to lead this group in sacks. Okay, the 742 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: whole world. Who the hell is Matt Longer? How is 743 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: he leading this group in sacks? That's I want that story. 744 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,479 Speaker 1: You know what, though, it's possible because of the guys 745 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: he's playing, absolutely and I could care I could care 746 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: less of all his sacks are like garbage, garbage sacks 747 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: where he's just standing there on the quarterback runs into him. 748 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: I want him to be the sack leader, but that's 749 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: that's that can happen. Just if you're in positioning, you 750 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: do what you're supposed to be. You're going to run 751 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: into sacks when you're playing with Brockers for sure. Don't 752 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: get me wrong. I mean garbage is actually a nice 753 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: term in football. Yes, smart guy is nowhere to go, 754 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: nowhere to stand, Yes, especially when you have great players 755 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: out there with you. Yes. Yeah, the quarterback can only 756 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: go so so many directions to free himself. So if 757 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: you're always there, you could fall into ten twelve sacks 758 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: in a year. It's not unrealistic. I think for him 759 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: to have ten sacks wouldn't be surprised at all. Stay active, 760 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: stay healthy, and just keep doing what you're doing. Yes, 761 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: he's a technician ll outside linebacker for any football team. 762 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: Maybe not this week your left tackles a rookie that 763 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: you're playing against, but Donald Penn on the other side, 764 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: that is an absolute beast. Now he's learning how to 765 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: play right tackle, and he's coming off foot surgery. Yeah, 766 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: and you can tell he's not used to guys running 767 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: right down in his face without using his right hand first. Now, 768 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: his right hand is the most important thing. So but 769 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: he's still a monster. He still keeps himself between defender 770 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 1: and ball carrier. He's a load. So but I still 771 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: think you'll get what I call artificial pressure. Artificial pressure. Okay, 772 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: there's sugar and then there's artificial sweetener. They both do 773 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: the same thing sort of. But I hear you, Yeah, 774 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 1: but it might look I don't want anything than sugar, 775 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: but it might look better than what it really is 776 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: because of who you're playing, right, Okay, but at some 777 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: point those guys are going to be faced with this 778 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: is a team strength their tackles. Okay, you see what 779 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Your left tackle is an all Pro. Your 780 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: right tackle is a guy that's in a contract year 781 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: that's playing lights out ball. At some point you're gonna 782 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: bump into that. But this Monday, you'll get that artificial 783 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: pressure off the corner. You should be able to get 784 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: heat on these guys. All right, Well, let's talk more 785 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: about this upcoming matchup between the Rams and the Raiders, 786 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: the first game back for John Ruden. What do you 787 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be like just from as somebody who 788 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: has experience with a coach who was in the booth 789 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: and then came back and I'm talking about Dick for Meal. Yea, yeah, 790 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: now you've got the same kind of thing that it 791 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: should be illegal, that should be illegal. Why you were you? 792 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: If you're the Monday night color analyst, that's the key 793 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: spot in football, right, that's one of them. It is 794 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: one of them. I think Chris Collinsworth would be another 795 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 1: Today Night. Yeah. So chances are those two guys, let's 796 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: just take Collinsworth and Gruden. Okay, chances are they have 797 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: spoken to every single head coach and coordinator in the league, 798 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: probably twice over. I mean not the Browns twice over. 799 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: What are you going to do? And why? Yes, how 800 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: are you going to get to that from the production meetings? 801 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: That's inside info? That is kind of insidive. O my god, 802 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: that's not fair. If if if I sat down with 803 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: John Gruden as a head coach right and I asked 804 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: him right in his eyes, are you coming back to coach? Uh? 805 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm happy where I am and I give you everything, 806 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: and then a year later you come back to coaching. 807 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'd put it on you what do 808 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: you think sidekick every single time? What do you think 809 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: Andy Reid would have told John Gruden before that playoff 810 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: game that they had the Chiefs had against Tennessee nothing 811 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: yea when it was basically because at that time it 812 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: was really known that Gruden was coming back to football, 813 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: that he was going to be the head coach of 814 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders in Kansas City's Division. Well, I mean, 815 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: but that scares me, um. And remember, at one point, 816 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: Sean McVay, we always compare him to John Gruden. Yes, right, 817 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: So at one point, John Gruden was the young phenom. 818 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: And he's been in he's been in this and at 819 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: this a long time, and from two different sides three 820 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: if you count assistant yeah, coaching, head coach, and as 821 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: a broadcaster. So he's seen the game from pretty much 822 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: every level. And I'll tell you this, as soon as 823 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: he came back to coaching, you probably knew. He had 824 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: his first play called oh Yeah and the Raiders two 825 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 1: why Banana, no doubt. And they've wrapped that and repped 826 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: that and repped that. So that's the fear of seeing Gruden. 827 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: A guy like Gruden on the other side, he's dummy, 828 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: no he's not. He won't. He won't be the one 829 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: guy that's surprised by Aaron Donald's quickness. Right, Yeah, he's 830 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 1: gonna seen it. Yes, he's seen it a lot. Yeah 831 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: for sure. I just think that the coaching trees are 832 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: interesting here in this matchup, right, because if you can 833 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: trace both of these guys back to the Bill Walsh 834 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: San Francisco sort of tree, right, because I think Gruden 835 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: worked for Mike Holmgren back in nineteen ninety. I was 836 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: looking this up so that I don't just think and 837 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: I know it. Yeah, So Gruden worked for Mike Holmgren 838 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety when Holmgren was with the San 839 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine Ers. Homegren goes to Green Bay to 840 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: be the head coach. John Gruden goes and then he's 841 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: an assistant, he's a wide receiver's coach, and then he 842 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: goes to the Eagles, he becomes OC and then goes 843 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: to the Raiders as a head coach. So then you 844 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: also becomes Chucky. Yes, yes, so you have Mike Shanahan, 845 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 1: who is the offensive coordinator of the Niners right after 846 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren. Because Mike Holmger goes to Green Bay, Shanahan 847 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: goes in, he becomes the head coach there, and then 848 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: you still have that Seafort Bill Walsh sort of tree. 849 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: But you also have to think about, Okay, Sean McVay 850 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: goes all the way back to those days too, because 851 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: of his grandfather, John McVeagh, who's one of those architects 852 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: in terms of personnel of the forty nine ers. And 853 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: now you have Gruden who then hires McVeagh, and you 854 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: also have Shanahan who hires McVeigh, and then you know 855 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: he works for another Gruden. Sean McVay works for Jay 856 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: Gruden again in Washington. So I think what I'm getting 857 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: at here is that the basis of these offensive playbooks 858 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways are the same that you 859 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: can trace them to the same tree. However, there's a 860 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: lot different now given you know, I think a that 861 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: Sean McVay has had different coaches, different experiences, and has 862 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: different personnel, no doubt, but it all goes back to 863 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: those Bill Walsh roots. Oh yeah, I mean they're all 864 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: part of the same litter man. Yeah, they all learned 865 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: football the same way, and they're all getting to it 866 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: the same way. It's just how they approach it and 867 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: what little wrinkle you can throw in. Yeah, you know, 868 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be fun that matchup. I can't wait 869 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: to see what they threw each other throughout each other. 870 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: Who does what first? Who changes tempo? Howes Gruden open 871 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: the game? You know, I mean, you'd probably open the 872 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: game the same way. You know. Let's see if they 873 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: want to tackle Todd today. Let's see, you know, let's 874 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: and then let's let's play off that. I mean, both quarterbacks. 875 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 1: And I like Car as a quarterback, do you too. Yeah, 876 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: if we're back in the day when you started playing 877 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: playground football, remember that way back when when you were 878 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: a kid. Yeah, you pick one kid as your all 879 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: time quarterback. If Aaron Rodgers was taken, he'd be my pick, 880 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he'd be my guy. He 881 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: can do pretty much everything. There's not a shot in 882 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: the bag he doesn't have, like like Jared. Yeah. Yeah, 883 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: And they're both athletic to run that offense. The little 884 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: stuff that maybe people miss, the little ball fakes or 885 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: how he gets to certain positions on the field to 886 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: have a platform to throw um. Car is great at it, 887 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: so is Jared. So, like you said, the the the 888 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 1: prep to get there and the the playbook, the Virgin 889 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: the basis of the foundation of the offense is the same. 890 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: But when you get to Sunday, it's you know, it's 891 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 1: a little bit different flavor from both guys or Monday 892 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: in this Monday thank you. Yes, yeah, I do like 893 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: car a lot too. Yeah. I think even from the 894 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: standpoint of his intangibles, like he just seems like a 895 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: really good leader and a really good guy. Like it's 896 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,919 Speaker 1: just he's somebody that I fall on social media because 897 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: I think he's an interesting person and like, yeah, I 898 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: don't know, I think he's a good young quarterback. I 899 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: remember when we saw him in twenty fourteen, back when 900 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,479 Speaker 1: the Rams bludgeon the Raiders fifty two to zero. Yeah, 901 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: like that was one thing, but like I just remember 902 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: the way he responded after that game was something that 903 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: like it stuck with me. Both guys, they're no Spaulding. 904 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: And you probably haven't seen Caddyshack. I'm not so people 905 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: who have seen Caddyshack. I call some quarterbacks Spaulding. What 906 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: does that mean, Well, they're too good to be hit. 907 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: They don't act like football players, so when they get 908 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 1: hit hard, they react they get mad, they get frustrated, 909 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: and they go in their little shells. These guys are 910 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: football players. Man, if they get tagged, they'll tap you 911 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: on the helm a good shot. Let's keep it going. 912 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: Even if they are banged up, They'll keep moving their 913 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: ball players and that inspires both units. Yeah, both coaches 914 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: love that about their guys. Yes, for sure. What did 915 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: you think when you saw the Raiders had traded Khalil 916 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: Mack Um kind of knew that was coming. Um had 917 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: a feeling that that was going to be the outcome 918 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: outside of some long holdout that was just bad for 919 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: both sides right that. I didn't see any budgeting from 920 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: both sides, Um, So your only other option is to 921 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: trade them. I didn't see Chicago. I don't think anybody 922 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: knew Chicago would do that. Yeah. I don't think so either, 923 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: But I'm sure if they couldn't pay a guy like that, 924 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: then you can. You have to trade them for picks. 925 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: At some point they were gonna get to that, they 926 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: were gonna get to where they where they actually got to. Yeah. Yeah, 927 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: and that It's an interesting thing because I just I 928 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: think about the way Lesneed talked about the fact that Okay, 929 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald has earned the right to be on the Rams. 930 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore right, and that with Khalil Mack you almost 931 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: sort of think the exact same way. But what's the 932 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: difference between both teams? And you have to think numbers here, 933 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: numbers in terms of dollars and cents. Derek Carr, Yes, yes, 934 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: that's the difference. That's one difference. I think the other 935 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: is kind of where the Rams are in terms of 936 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 1: wanting to be Super Bowl can get And if you 937 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: read quotes from what John Greenden has talked about, he's 938 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: talked about there's a lot of holes here there da 939 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: da da. So he's said, yes, we want to win, 940 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: but if you listen to him describe the roster, it 941 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: seems like he feels like there are a lot of 942 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: holes that need to be filled on the roster. And 943 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: that makes sense to me. But and it's kind of 944 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: the argument that people have said where it's like, okay, 945 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: I get this more from the standpoint of the Raiders 946 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: maybe aren't quite ready right, Well, this is the Rams are. 947 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: This is chess, not checkers. Even though you're telling people 948 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: it's checkers, you can think long term, yes, yeah, that's 949 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: what I mean. John Gruden's been at this a long time, 950 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: so he knows maybe where, not where the holes are, 951 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: but where they're going to be very very soon. He's 952 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: the head coach, he knows yea. Yeah, So I mean, 953 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: if you couldn't pay Mac, you have to flip him 954 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: for picks. And I thought they got a king's ransom. 955 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: But yes, and they look good for clil Mac he 956 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: got the contract. Yeah, yeah, where's the downside here? I 957 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: don't see any downside for anybody. I think Mac will 958 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 1: probably excel in Chicago, especially given that his defensive coordinators 959 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: Vic Fanjia true. I mean outside of Raider fans um. 960 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: The next day, I was at a breakfast spot and 961 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: I saw this guy wearing a fifty two, a Raider 962 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: fifty two really, and he just looks so sad eating 963 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: his pancakes. He just he was just so depressed, like 964 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: this is just and he was with his family. Yeah. 965 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: I said, man, it's gonna be okay. He's like, I can't, 966 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: I can't believe they did it, and went back to 967 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: his pant Wow. Yeah that's interesting. Yeah, yeah it was. 968 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: It was a sad day, but I mean, look, you're 969 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: gonna love those picks. If they hit on them, they 970 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: can help your team. And think about this, it all 971 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 1: goes to benefit the most important position on the field, 972 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: which his quarterback. I would bet those picks and that 973 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: money they save. What do you think about Amari Cooper Great? Yeah, 974 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to write him off yet because I 975 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: remember he stepped onto the or came into the NFL, 976 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 1: and he was a house of fire, you know, he 977 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: was the next thing everybody wanted one, and then he 978 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: kind of fell off, had the drop seas for a bit. 979 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: But he's still dangerous to me. Yeah, he's just like 980 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch. They say he's getting up in age, Well, 981 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: look he's still Marshawn Lunch until proven other way. I 982 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: agree with Marie Cooper the same way. And Jordy Nelson 983 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: is scary, yes, yeah, yeah, even with anybody's corners, those 984 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: two guys would be scary. No, absolutely, But I do 985 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 1: think about this. How do you think it will be 986 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: that Marcus Peters and a key to leave with their experience, 987 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: how do you think that they will be able to 988 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: attack Derek Carr, Marie Cooper and those guys, Because even 989 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: though it's a different offensive system, Yeah, you might still 990 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: pick up on some tendencies given that you played these 991 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: guys twice a year, Well, I know to leave those 992 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: or Nelson, Yes, Jordy Nelson. They go all the way 993 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: back to college, so it's a mini rivalry. If there 994 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: is one Kansas Kansas State, so it goes all the 995 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: way back to that Marcus Peters played against Amuri Cooper. 996 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, so I think you 997 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: have advantages there. But I mean they're big receivers. If 998 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: there's no pressure in the ball gets out. I mean, 999 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: these guys can get in front and open against just 1000 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: about anybody. May be tight and you may not get 1001 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: a lot of yards after catch, but they can get open. 1002 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: So if you don't get pressure on car and he's 1003 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,399 Speaker 1: allowed to sling it at will, they'll make catches. Yeah, 1004 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: they'll make plays. No, I agree, But I just I 1005 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: think that there's something to that, just the fact that 1006 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 1: you've had to leave in Denver, in Peters in Kansas City, 1007 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: and they've seen Derek Carr. They have not seen this offense, 1008 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: and I think that's another element of this game that's 1009 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: going to be interesting. You just don't have any film 1010 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,760 Speaker 1: on John Gruden at all No, because it's been almost 1011 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: ten years since he's been in the league. If looking 1012 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: at personnel, you see what he's set up to do. 1013 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: I mean with the his tight ends, the guys he 1014 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: kept because you know he's gonna try to run the ball. 1015 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna preach balance, Yes, and he's got Marshall Lynch 1016 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: and he's got muscle hamsters, so he's got some m 1017 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: he's got some physical guys that are that are good 1018 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: enough to to either grind clock or wear you out. Yeah, 1019 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: good enough running him. And the offensive line is very good, yes, Yeah, 1020 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: from from guard to guard or at least right tackle too, 1021 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: through the left guard, they are good. And the rookie's 1022 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: coming along um and those two receivers, so you have 1023 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 1: a pretty good idea how he's going to attack you, 1024 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: but you don't know the nuances just yet, you know 1025 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, And that's the that's the stuff 1026 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 1: you find out on game day, right. The same problem 1027 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,240 Speaker 1: exists for both defenses. You haven't seen this rams offense 1028 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,320 Speaker 1: and what they're gonna do. There's gonna be personnel groups 1029 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: and formations you haven't seen, and you could get caught 1030 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: with an eleven man check because you had some sort 1031 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 1: of pressure on you have to get out of. Right. Yeah, 1032 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: this is the stuff the confusion that Sean McVay is 1033 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: looking for, same thing for John Gruden. Yes, this personnel 1034 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: groups to be given them issues. Well, we can work 1035 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,399 Speaker 1: off this and keep them in that. To me, these 1036 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: are the things that happen in week one. Oh, it's 1037 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: why that there can be some surprise, you know, results 1038 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: throughout the league in week one when you have things 1039 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: like this, because there's just that element of the unknown. Well, 1040 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: if you don't break on defense and like this, the 1041 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: RAMS defense versus their offense concern Okay, the RAMS offense 1042 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: versus their defense, I have confidence in Okay, So if 1043 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: Jared Goff and company are doing their job, you put 1044 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: the pressure on Car and it gets Gruden out of it. 1045 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: You have to change game plans. It puts you right 1046 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: where the RAMS wants you. Now you have to block 1047 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: these guys. Yeah right, but that that's dependent on the 1048 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: offense doing their job against this defense. Right. Yeah. So 1049 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: the less you see Gruden's offense, the more obvious it 1050 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: will become for you, and the easier it will be 1051 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: to get to Car. The more you see it, the 1052 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: more stuff he's gonna have for you. I agree, and 1053 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 1: he'll wearry out. All right. Well, I think we kind 1054 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 1: of previewed this thing pretty well. I hope so. Man, Yeah, 1055 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun. I think so too. Any 1056 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: predictions for Falcons Eagles tomorrow, the game that we're going 1057 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: to cover, the game that we're not covering. No, not 1058 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 1: at all. None. No. First game of the season. Decided 1059 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 1: to see it. Okay, even though we don't have Carson Wentz, 1060 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 1: I predict there'll be a kickoff, Oh my gosh. Yeah, 1061 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 1: and somebody will field it. What did you Okay, did 1062 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: you watch much college football for the weekend? Atlanta? We 1063 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 1: have the opening possession. I forgot about this. What did 1064 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: you watch munch college football over the weekend? Are you 1065 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: going to get to Washington losing? No? I just jumped 1066 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: do it early. I mean I could have, but I 1067 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 1: was going to talk. You talked about the kickoff. Have 1068 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,359 Speaker 1: you've seen this fair catch rule that is new? Yes, 1069 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 1: where you can like fair catch it inside with the 1070 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: twenty or whatever and then they bring it out to 1071 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: the twenty five. Good. I thought you always could fair catch. 1072 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 1: You can fair catch, but like it fair and just 1073 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: no return. Yes, no return. But now it's not just 1074 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 1: no return, it's oh, we're going to bring it to 1075 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: the twenty five yard line. Good. You think that's good. Well, 1076 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: look if you want to make it safer, good, Um 1077 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,280 Speaker 1: you know look kickoffs, kickoffs by nature are violent. Well 1078 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: I agree, will know this. That's high speed collisions. So 1079 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: no disagreement here that most of the bell ringers and 1080 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: the snot bubblers and all the big shots you see 1081 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,359 Speaker 1: happen on kickoff. So yeah, you can limit that then, 1082 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: so be it. It's only five yards anyway. I but 1083 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 1: it's not five yards. You give it if they down 1084 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: it in the end zone there they used to be 1085 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 1: at the twenty. You're just giving them an extra five, 1086 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: So be it. But you're not downing it in the 1087 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: end zone. You can down in at the five, you 1088 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,879 Speaker 1: can fair catch it at the five hand twenty five. 1089 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,399 Speaker 1: You're only giving them five yards as a defense. Either way, 1090 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 1: if they were they get twenty yards, or if they 1091 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: down it they brought out to the twenty. Here you're 1092 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: giving them to me. I don't like it because it 1093 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: makes the kickoff a non competitive play. Well, and if 1094 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna make it non competitive, just just change. Just 1095 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: take it out. But you can be. But it's up 1096 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: to the receiver right to make it competitive or not. 1097 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if you got a game in hand and 1098 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 1: you're up thirty five to nothing, why return? Okay? Yeah? 1099 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: Or if you're down by a touchdown and you need 1100 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: to bring it out, no fair catch, bring that thing out. 1101 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: It's your option. Yeah, you're making you like the rule 1102 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more. And I just didn't. I didn't 1103 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: like it over the weekend. But now I hear you. 1104 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 1: It's a it's a whole new and that's maybe that's 1105 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: just what I needed. I needed it to be explained 1106 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:20,959 Speaker 1: to me, like, that's a whole other thing we haven't 1107 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 1: talked about. Kickoff you saw in preseason will look completely 1108 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,360 Speaker 1: different on Monday. There's gonna be a lot more stuff 1109 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: going on. Yes, yeah, yeah, Um, I can't wait to 1110 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: see what bones Fossil has for you can see, did 1111 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: not show one thing in a preseason gave me nothing? Yeah, so, 1112 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: and I bet every special teams coordinator has been like that. 1113 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: So I don't work something in a professional kickoff that 1114 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,919 Speaker 1: looks like that. Yes, yeah, all right, Well I'm really 1115 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,399 Speaker 1: excited for this game too. I'm sure you are. Too. 1116 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: We thank you so much for tuning into this edition 1117 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: of Between the Horns. For DeMarco Farr, I'm Miles Simmons. 1118 00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: Make sure you check out Monday night's game in Oakland. 1119 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,760 Speaker 1: Kickoff will be at seventeen Pacific time forgot on ESPN, 1120 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 1: also simulcast on ABC seven locally here from the Los Angeles. Yeah, 1121 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: I know, probably right. You could also listen to the 1122 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: radio call on esp at LA with Voice of the 1123 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 1: Rams Jblong, Maurice Jones, Drew and this guy DeMarco far 1124 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time right here on Between the 1125 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 1: Horns