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Nick writes, around the corner, 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: we're live. 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: It's the Herd. 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Wherever you may be, and however you may be watching 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: or listening, appreciate it. So Men and Blazers is a 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: very popular sports podcast, and they had Tom Brady on 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: talking about soccer, and it's interesting. I always feel like 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm defending soccer and there's just a percentage of guys 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: that are never going to buy into it. But I 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: always feel soccer in America is appropriately popular. It happens 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: every fourth year, the World Cup, right, And so it's 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: like those relatives you see ever read four years, they're 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: not real family. 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: Even though you're related. 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: It's not like your own kids that you hold much 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: more responsible. You get the highs and lows of the 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: daily rituals and routines, and that the truth is when 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: the World Cup was here in ninety ninety four, it's 26 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: it broke records that stand today in attendance, and the 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: World Cup, the next one in the United States, will 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: shatter those records. And Tom Brady was talking about I 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: don't think soccer needs anything in America. I think it's 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: as popular as it's ever going to be. And I 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: think it's really popular when you consider that we have 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: massive infrastructure of college football and college basketball. We are 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: an over stimulated, distracted country. It's bigger in Europe. Europe 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: doesn't have our college football or basketball. They don't have 35 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: the NHL like we do. I mean, We've got MLS, NHL, NASCAR, NFL, NBA. Canada, 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: by the way, Canada's got NHL, NBA, CFL. They don't 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: even have our college system, this labyrinth of you know, 38 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty Division one basketball programs like we 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: have here. And so here's Tom Brady talking about a 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: little bit what soccer needs. 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: We need the youth in America. In soccer, we need 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 3: a young phenom like a Uman Lamal, a young Lino 43 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: Messi to take over. And I believe that there would 44 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: be the most amazing kind of cultural revolution for soccer 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: here in America. We love rooting for winners. We love 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: rooting for the best of the best. The World Cup 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: is coming to America in twenty twenty six. You can't 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: imagine the fanfare when that happens. Every stadium will be 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: sold out. The American audience loves it. 50 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: I always feel like hockey feels like Canada, the NFL 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: in college football feel like US. But soccer, you know, 52 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds, eighteen hundreds. There's four hundred year old pubs 53 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: in Europe. They're older than US. Soccer's old. There are 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: four hundred year old you know. If you walk around Europe, 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: it's like you're walking in an outdoor museum. I mean, 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: just just go to Vienna, to go to these European cities. 57 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: I was in Florence a couple of years ago. I 58 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: felt like the whole trip I was walking in a museum. 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: I love Seattle, it doesn't feel that way, right. I 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: like Denver, it doesn't feel like a museum. So I 61 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: always feel like soccer is appropriately popular. It's the relatives 62 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: you see every three years and you love them, but 63 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: they don't feel like your kids. And that's not a 64 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: knock on soccer. I think Fox is gonna break records. 65 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: I think we still hold the nineteen ninety four World 66 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Cup still holds the attendance records, and I do think 67 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: we have I think Polisic, I don't know where he 68 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: ranks globally, but he's our best player. 69 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: Ever. I think we have more skill than ever. 70 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: I always feel like I am defending soccer, and I 71 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: don't think it needs defending. I think it's really popular here, 72 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: but if you go up every four years, you're not 73 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: going to be football or the NBA or college football. 74 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: You're not gonna be Ohio State Michigan. That's the reality 75 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: of it, and I love it. My friends outside of 76 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, the guys I hang out with, soccer is 77 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: their number two. They'll watch the English Premier League over 78 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: everything but the NFL seriously so. And I remember when 79 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: I recently, it was seventeen eighteen, nineteen years ago, not 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: recently got married. Anne's young boys in New England, Josh 81 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: and Riley, did not watch baseball. They watched the English 82 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Premier League downstairs in the house. I was like, I 83 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: remember watching that and thinking, Wow, I'm in New England 84 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: and they're not watching the Red Sox. They're watching soccer. 85 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: So I never think soccer needs defending. Now sometimes Nick 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: Wright does, and he now joins us live. Nick Wright 87 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: first things first. 88 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 4: Is joining us. 89 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: So what's up, buddy. Good to see you. 90 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: You know you don't want to make too much of 91 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: little stuff, but I do think little stuff. I always 92 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: call it the drip drip drip becomes a faucet that's leaking. 93 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: And I've got last year, and I've got Mini camp 94 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 1: in OTAs. Now I've got the Net video with Caleb Williams, 95 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: and I'm like, shouldn't I be a little uneasy with 96 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: the moodiness, the accuracy it's a I mean I watched 97 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: Shadon Daniels and Vo Nicks. They were good immediately. I 98 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 1: have questions about what I say with Jones Williams. 99 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 5: Mac Jones good immediately too. I mean, the good immediately 100 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 5: is not always the right answer. Here's the thing this, 101 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 5: I do not care about him missing these passes, especially 102 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 5: because either the day before or the day after this video, 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 5: I'm not sure the sequence of it. In this exact drill, 104 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 5: he went five for five right into the bucket, So 105 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 5: it's not we know he can make that pass. The 106 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 5: only part of this video that I is bothersome to 107 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 5: me is that part the reaction. I do think that Caleb, 108 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 5: as an emotional guy, needs to recognize his responsibility as 109 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 5: the leader of the team and the quarterback, and needs 110 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 5: do a better job of keeping his cool. So when 111 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 5: he was in college, people made a big deal of 112 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 5: the after the loss, I forget to whom, when he 113 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 5: was with his mother and appeared to be crying. I 114 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 5: kind of stayed out of that because it felt like 115 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 5: a lot of the criticism there was a wink and 116 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 5: a nod, criticism of he paints his nails, he carries 117 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 5: a purse, Now he's crying, and I felt it was 118 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 5: untoward what I do think would have been fair criticism, 119 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 5: and his fair criticism is whether it would have been 120 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 5: him crying or if he had flipped over the gatorade 121 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 5: table and broke in a cooler. We want our quarterback 122 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 5: to be level headed, to be, you know, calm in 123 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 5: the stores, and I think that I do think that 124 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 5: is an. 125 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 4: Area he needs to improve. But I saw you yesterday, Colin. 126 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 5: You know you sold just a few of your Caleb shares, 127 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 5: and let. 128 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: Me tell you, I had my brokers scoop him up. 129 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 5: I was like, you know what he's gonna He's gonna. 130 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: Sell the dip. 131 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 5: I'm gonna buy it all, take more of the Caleb 132 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 5: stock and so, and we'll see. 133 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: I think he's going. 134 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 5: I think Ben Johnson is trying, not in that drill, 135 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 5: but trying to throw a lot at him. Is fine 136 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 5: with him struggling, is fine with him being frustrated. 137 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: So we can build him back up. I still believe in. 138 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 5: The transcendent talent, and I think Ben Johnson's a sharp coach, so. 139 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: I think it will work. 140 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: But I just need him to be a little more 141 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 5: even keeled. 142 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna bounce around here, and I want 143 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: to get to this topic. I said that it's a 144 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: basketball topic. I didn't have a problem with Lebron, James 145 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: or Brouny because we all know the deal here. 146 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: If they're on a yacht. 147 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: In Santrope with Savannah and they don't make a press 148 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: conference and they do a video call, I'm okay with it. 149 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: Lebron is messy. He's Ronald though we're talking different ballgame here. 150 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: It's Brad Pitt. He can't make every you know, carpet. 151 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: I get it, but I said Luca being in the 152 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: kind of shape he's in. It's year two and three Luca, 153 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: and last year I got lumpy Luca. This year I 154 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: get lean Luca and I think Lebron and maybe he 155 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: can handle it or maybe he can't. I don't want 156 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves to have the ball. I don't want I 157 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: think old KD. You could argue we'll play better with 158 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: lean Luca than lumpy Luca. Last year he couldn't beat 159 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: people off the dribble. He needed Lebron who still can't that. 160 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: I think the struggle isn't whether he's at a press conference. 161 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: Is that you're going to get now year two in 162 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: three Luca, where he not only beat people off the dribble, 163 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: he finished dunking at the rim. That guy is back, 164 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: and I in his usage rate in those years was 165 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: the highest ever. Is that I think Lebron's numbers for 166 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: the first time in his career. You will watch Luke 167 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: and Lebron and there will be a noticeable gap in 168 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: performance and we've never seen it with Lebron. 169 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 5: We've never seen it. But like there's listen, Lebron last 170 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 5: year got the sixth most MVP votes and the sixth 171 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 5: most all NBA First Team votes. He finished sixth in 172 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 5: both of those categories. He was, according to the voters, 173 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 5: the sixth best player in basketball last year. Let's assume 174 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 5: there's a little actrophy from there, going now into year 175 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 5: twenty three of his career and where he's going to 176 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 5: be turning forty one, and let say he goes from 177 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 5: that to ninth or tenth best in the league. Luca 178 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 5: is one of unequivocally the four best players in the league. 179 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 5: I think he's one of the three best players in 180 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 5: the league. I understand that it's a harder argument to 181 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 5: make now because of what Shaye accomplished, But I think 182 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 5: Luca is better than Shay. Everyone thought that nine months ago. 183 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 5: Now seemingly only I and maybe Zach Low think it. 184 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 5: But I think Luca is a top three player in 185 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 5: the league. He's supposed to be much better than whomever 186 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: his next best teammate. Is where I disagree with people 187 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 5: about how Lebron will take that. I think Lebron, for 188 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 5: the better part of the last five years, had been 189 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,479 Speaker 5: hoping that he would be able to make this transition 190 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 5: because of Anthony Davis. I think Lebron as we saw 191 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 5: in the Olympics, and once they got Luca last year, 192 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 5: relishes the opportunity to be able to give more of 193 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 5: his energy on the defensive end because he doesn't have 194 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 5: to carry all of the load on the offensive end. 195 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 5: Lebron's issue has and I know this has nothing to 196 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 5: do with Luca or whether or not Luca has superseded 197 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 5: him in the NBA player hierarchy at this point in 198 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 5: his career. Lebron's singular issue is is my timeline and 199 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 5: the lakers timeline now totally misaligned or are they still 200 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 5: at least kind of together Where the Lakers, yes, obviously 201 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 5: they need to have a long term vision, but do 202 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 5: they also think we can win a championship right now 203 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 5: and we are going to go for that because this 204 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 5: might be my last year. And here is why I 205 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 5: would argue for the Lakers they should unless they have 206 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 5: a secret handshake agreement that Giannis is signing there in 207 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 5: two years. The overwhelming odds that if we were to 208 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 5: in three years when this extension for Luca's over, say, hey, 209 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 5: who's the single best player Luca ever played with with 210 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 5: the Lakers in his four years with the team. The 211 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 5: answer is likely going to be Lebron. When Lebron leaves, 212 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 5: the idea that they're going to get one of the 213 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 5: six players in the league or seven players in the 214 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 5: league better than Lebron as a running mate is unlikely. 215 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 5: So if I were the Lakers, I would treat this 216 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 5: season as we have Luca, who can win MVP. Lebron's 217 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 5: coming off a great year. We filled out the roster 218 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 5: a bit, maybe add one more wing or maybe a 219 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 5: backup center, and why can't we go win four rounds? 220 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 5: That's what Lebron wants them to do. I don't blame 221 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 5: him for that. 222 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: Okay, this may be below your standards of a topic choice, 223 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: but now I have had kind of a thing and 224 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of truth in it, although sometimes just 225 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: to be a not I go a little over the 226 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: top and a little fiat. 227 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 5: So tell me we're doing the visor. Tell me we're 228 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: doing the visor right? 229 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: So I'm a houard. 230 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, Okay, So my thing is there are 231 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: dress codes in life. There are members clubs, there's golf courses, 232 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: there's events where you have to wear a collared shirt. 233 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: It's one thing to have a hat on backwards for 234 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: a wide receiver in an interview on the field to 235 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: be the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. A backwards advisor. 236 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: I had a general manager text me this morning. He goes, 237 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: you're going to get nothing but crap, and you are 238 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: on target. A general manager in the league said, don't 239 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: stop on this. Here's a guy that nobody believes can coach. 240 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: And he looks like the guy that when you call 241 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: one eight hundred junk, picks up the boxes and that's stuff. 242 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,479 Speaker 2: From your garage. 243 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: It's the Cowboys, it's Bank of America, it's the biggest 244 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: brand in the National Football League. 245 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: That look bothers me. 246 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, done it does? I know it does soup things. 247 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 5: Just one clarification for the audience. I don't know who 248 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 5: you get on the other end of the line if 249 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 5: you call one eight hundred junk, but I wouldn't call it. 250 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 5: And that's not the number column men. But the point 251 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 5: is taken. So here's the thing, Colin. You have always 252 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 5: been right about this, and deep down everyone knows it. 253 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 5: But because you are maybe a touch hyperbolic or theatrical, 254 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 5: people attack you. But we all we like, we all 255 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 5: agree that every single day we are all making choices 256 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 5: with how we present ourselves to the world. We all 257 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 5: agree that Bill Belichick was the reason that his gruff, 258 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 5: cut up, dirty hoodie was considered cool was purely because 259 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 5: A he was an all time winner and b it 260 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 5: fit the theme that he. 261 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 4: Was trying to present. 262 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 5: Everyone knows that now does is a backwards hat across 263 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 5: the board necessarily as much of a faux pas as 264 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 5: you seem to. 265 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: Think it is? 266 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 5: Probably not, But is a backwards visor a good look 267 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 5: on anyone? 268 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: I'm yet to see it. 269 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 5: And does everyone, even the biggest critics of you on this, 270 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 5: does everyone agree? It's a matter of degree that we 271 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 5: are arguing about, because everyone agrees that if he came 272 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 5: to the press conference with mustard stained all over his 273 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 5: face and shirtless but said the exact same stuff, we'd 274 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 5: be like, yeah, the presentation's wrong. 275 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: We all agree that there is a level. 276 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 5: Your level just happens to be an orientation of the 277 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 5: cap or visor in this case, which again I've never 278 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 5: cared about quite as much as you. But I also 279 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 5: think if there were a Hall of Fame on twenty 280 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 5: years sports topics, this is a first ballot entry. People 281 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 5: now see people wearing backwards caps and they're like, oh boy, Okay, 282 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 5: we're gonna get four minute masterclass from Cowbird today. 283 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of your legacy. 284 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 5: It might be a little sad thing, but it's in 285 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 5: the first page of the obituary. 286 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: Tell you that much. It probably is. 287 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: I probably need a second good take after thirty years. 288 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 289 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: Final final thing on this is that the media does 290 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: this with politics and they do it with personalities. Is 291 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: that they pick people they like and they just decide, 292 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: we like this guy. There was a Stephen Colbert. The 293 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: media is like, he's a good guy. And my take 294 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: is the show is losing forty million. It went heavy political. 295 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: The demographics got sixty nine years old, is the average age. 296 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: Nobody's going to do a forty million dollar losing show 297 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: on network TV in twenty twenty five, maybe thirty years ago. 298 00:16:59,520 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: They're not. 299 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: But the media decided they liked him, and that's fine. 300 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: But the media has decided they like Mike McDaniels. We're 301 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: three years in Brian Flores. The two years before Mike 302 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: McDaniels got there that a better winning percentage than the 303 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: last three years with him. And that's with the Patriots 304 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: being a disaster and the Jets being a disaster that 305 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: the media has decided they didn't like Brian Flores, they 306 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: didn't like him, they like Mike McDaniel. If I had 307 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: an opening today, what are the Dolphins? I knew what 308 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: Flora is after about eight weeks, about week nine on 309 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: those Flores teams were nasty. It took him a while 310 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: to develop it. I'm three years in with Mike McDaniel. 311 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: Is this a case of the media deciding he's smart, 312 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: we like him. Where's that they're there with the Dolphins? 313 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 5: Okay, so a couple things first, is I think this 314 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 5: is a take I agree with you on, unlike the 315 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 5: Colbert take, which I vehemently disagree with you on. And 316 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 5: we can save that for the next time I'm on 317 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 5: the podcast. Probably not the time and place for it 318 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 5: right now, but let's put a pin in that. 319 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: We'll talk about it on the volume at some point. 320 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 5: On Mike McDaniel, you are correct in that he reminds 321 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 5: a lot of sports media of themselves. Yes, Like, that's 322 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 5: just flatly true. Like the smaller Rye humor kind you 323 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: know it signed kind of very almost dark humor yesterday, 324 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 5: analytical guy. I think there are a lot of people 325 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 5: covering football that see themselves in him, which then makes 326 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 5: you want to root for the guy to succeed you. 327 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 5: Then also, I do think objectively he is a very 328 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 5: smart and inventive offensive play designer, and I also think 329 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 5: he got the absolute most out of Tua. I think 330 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 5: there are some things to like, but where I think 331 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 5: there is and whether this is not just about Mike McDaniel, 332 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 5: This is about how football is covered today, as analytics 333 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 5: and as a smarter people start having larger voices in 334 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 5: the cover In covering a football, I think there is 335 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 5: a experience gap in how physically brutal the game is 336 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 5: and the type of people that actually play it at 337 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 5: the highest level, and therefore how hard it can be 338 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 5: to actually lead that group of men, and the reason 339 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: and so it to me this is a cousin of 340 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 5: Sometimes I see some of the smartest people, supposedly smartest 341 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 5: people covering football, who I think truly believe the way 342 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 5: they present it. Every time you run the ball is 343 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 5: stupid because the EPA per play on a bad pass 344 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 5: is higher than on a good run. And this, that 345 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 5: and all of it makes sense except for the fact 346 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 5: that there is. 347 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 4: When for eighty years, every person. 348 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 5: That's ever played the game has One of the first 349 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 5: things they have talked about is the importance of being 350 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 5: able to run and like the way it can you 351 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 5: can kind of sap the will of your opponent. 352 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: Yes, in some way, you. 353 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 5: Just got to be like they probably know what they're talking. 354 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 4: About, Like I haven't been out there, but like, I 355 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 4: don't know. 356 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 5: It seems like if like you can make the d 357 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 5: tackle frustrated, there might be a value that doesn't show 358 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 5: up in the numbers. 359 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: So that's a. 360 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 5: Long explanation to get to McDaniel, which is I think 361 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 5: there is some of the reason that the media loves 362 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 5: him might also be related to why his team pretty 363 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 5: clearly does not fear him the way they seem to 364 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 5: some of the more effective coaches. And I like McDaniel, 365 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 5: but it seems like it's gotten away from him a 366 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 5: bit with the Dolphins. And I want to make this clear, 367 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 5: I'm not an anti analytics guy. I'm not an anti 368 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 5: kind of you know, smart learning the game thing, But 369 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 5: I think that there is an arrogance to the idea 370 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 5: that that's in some ways that football has talked about 371 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 5: when it comes to the actual physicality and toughness of 372 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 5: the game that gets lost in some of the math. 373 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: No, this is something I had an executive tell me 374 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: years ago, he said, And this was years and I 375 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: was at the other place, and he said, the hardest 376 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: part of about the draft is you just don't necessarily 377 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: know on tape. Am I drafting somebody who is willing 378 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: to impose his will and soul on another equally big 379 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: strong man and ray Lewis could be smaller and slower. 380 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: You turn the lights off, put ray Lewis in a 381 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: room with any other player, Ray's coming out of the room. 382 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: And there is something there is value in the NFL 383 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: in just toughness. 384 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 4: Well, can I add to that real quick? 385 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 5: I know we have to go, but I I have said, 386 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 5: and again I'm not an anti McDaniel guy, but I 387 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 5: think people should go back and watch the Chiefs Dolphins 388 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 5: playoff game two years ago. When the Chiefs were came 389 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 5: limping into the playoffs. They you know, I think, I'm 390 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 5: you know, they were It was when they had the 391 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 5: first road games. Now, they of course ended up going 392 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 5: to and winning the Super Bowl because they're the Chiefs, 393 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 5: but they seem to be a vulnerable team. 394 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 4: And that was the third coldest. 395 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 5: Game in NFL history, and Andy Reid came out, and he. 396 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 4: Looked like Andy Reid. 397 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 5: He was dressed like Andy Reid is dressed, even though 398 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 5: by halftime he literally had icicles on his mustache. And 399 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel came out as bundled up as you've ever 400 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 5: seen a human being. 401 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 4: And I said, I said on. 402 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 5: The air that week, I was like, cause the Dolphins 403 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 5: had no interest in being there. 404 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 4: They you know, they got annihilated from the very beginning. 405 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 5: And I said, I can't prove it, but I feel 406 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 5: like the Chiefs saw their coach acting like this is 407 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 5: a normal game, normal business, and they were and they 408 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 5: internalized it. 409 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 4: And the Dolphins saw their. 410 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 5: Coach acting like this is the coldest I've ever been 411 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 5: in my entire life, and they internalize that, and I 412 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 5: just think they're a little I think football is so 413 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 5: different because it's so physically painful, it's so dangerous, it's 414 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 5: so brutal, that there is just a lot of magic 415 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 5: in the indefinable toughness stuff. And I think that's kind 416 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 5: of what I'm getting at here. 417 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: No, I'll close it on this years ago, I was 418 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: sitting watching it was Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in 419 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: a playoff game in Foxborough and Jim Nantz is doing 420 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: it and he's going to a commercial and they show 421 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: a pre game shot. We're coming back with a kickoff 422 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: next and they show Peyton Manning and he looks like 423 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: he is freezing. He's with a I think the cult 424 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: at this point. He looks like he's freezing, and I'm like, 425 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: it's over. Brady's out there high five and Peyton Manny 426 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: who plays in the dome, and Indy looked and I thought, oh, 427 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: that's just terrible body language. 428 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: And I think we agree on that. 429 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 5: All right, buddy, Absolutely great to see a Seacon. 430 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to that Stephen Colbert thing on 431 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: a podcast near you. I swear we would. No. I 432 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: think there is something to be said is that I'm 433 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: not anti analytics ever, but I've said this before about 434 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: the NBA. Those analytics go out the window in the 435 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: playoffs because you just coach differently, and the NBA efficients 436 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: officiates differently. Analytics in baseball it's built for the volume 437 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: of one hundred and sixty two games you go into the playoffs. 438 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: Dave Roberts is going to use his bullpen differently in 439 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs than he does any other time of the year. 440 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: So all the analytics are built for volume of games. 441 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: But what happens when you get down to a five game, 442 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: seven game series. Well, in the NBA, the games are 443 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: officiated differently. You don't get the whistle, you don't get 444 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: the regular season whistle. So I like analytics and football, 445 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: but a lot of it comes down to mental and 446 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: physical toughness. And I mean Philadelphia's best play is gaining 447 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: half a yard. All the analytics of football, Tom Brady 448 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: was unstoppable on quarterback sneaks. I mean, if it was 449 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: fourth and one, Brady got the first down here, he 450 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: mastered it. So with all the analytics with football, sometimes 451 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: it's like Philly and Tom Brady have mastered getting a 452 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: yard in January and Buffalo, by the way, with Josh 453 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: Allen was. 454 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: A circus trying to get a yard. 455 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes the game is just that, the will and the 456 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: toughness to get a yard in lousy weather. 457 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 6: Well one more Heard. 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Ohio State has the two best players. 474 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: They're at home. I think I would take the points 475 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: with Sark and arch Manning. 476 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: I just don't know. 477 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: What I get with Ohio State at quarterback. I have 478 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: no ideas really talented, five star kid at That's a 479 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: tough opener. 480 00:26:53,960 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 6: J Mac with the news, this is the line news, 481 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 6: all right, let's bust right into it. 482 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 8: A team. 483 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 7: I believe you're sleeping on the Jacksonville Jaguars. 484 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: I think this offense is going to go. 485 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 8: To the moon. 486 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 7: They just announced that Travis Hunter in the intent is 487 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 7: he's going to play both ways. On the first depth 488 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 7: chart Jacksonville released, Hunter was listed as a starting wide 489 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 7: receiver and a backup cornerback, which is pretty much what 490 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 7: we expected right Situationally, he would probably appear in some 491 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 7: dime packages. 492 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: Just too athletic to not get the ball to twelve 493 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: times A Yes, I want the ball in his hands. 494 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't want him on an island and the team 495 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: decides not to throw to his side of the ball 496 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: and he's baking in the Jacksonville son and never touching 497 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: the football. I want him to touch the ball. 498 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 7: Sounds like Liam Cohen is going to scheme him up 499 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 7: a lot. And here is Cohen, the new head coach, 500 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 7: talking about his offensive and defensive Rookie of the Year candidate. 501 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 8: These guys are challenging him every single day, like he 502 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 8: doesn't get a free pass because he was second overall pick. 503 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 8: In these traps Hunter like they are in his grill, 504 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 8: trying to jam them up, trying to hem them up, 505 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 8: trying to make it as hard as they can possibly 506 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 8: make it for him in a great way, like in 507 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 8: the most healthy way as possible, where they're going at 508 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 8: it and chirping at each other. 509 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: And by the way. 510 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: You know what I like about Travis Hunter from what 511 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: you can tell, just a nice kid. 512 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 2: He's a football kid. He's into it. 513 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: Like considering how gifted he is, is he going to 514 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: be the Otani of football? 515 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you say what you want. 516 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: Let's say I don't get a lot of guys that 517 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: are like elite receivers and elite corners, like we went 518 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: we freaked out with Bo Jackson if Bo Jackson wasn't 519 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: playing linebacker, Like this kid has a chance to be 520 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: all time stuff here, like like not just receiver, partmer turner, 521 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: elite corner, Troll Bowl receiver. Like I don't think that. 522 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's usually the people I trust that 523 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: I've talked to about him, They're like, listen, this is 524 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: just different. He's going to be the best athlete in 525 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. 526 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: Very quickly. Think about that. 527 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: That's bold. 528 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 7: I just want to reinforce so Liam Cohen very sharp 529 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 7: offensive mind. In Tampa, that offense was awesome. They had 530 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 7: Evans and Godwin. They've essentially recreated that with the young 531 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 7: kid Brian Thomas, who was awesome last year. Yeah, and 532 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 7: now Travis Hunter. And remember in Tampa he had a 533 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 7: flotilla of backs. He's got Etn and Bigsby. They were 534 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 7: a good combo last year. I'm just telling you, if 535 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 7: Lawrence can stay healthy, this is an offense. It should 536 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 7: be a top ten unit in the league. 537 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: Gulling. 538 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 7: I don't know about the defense holding off people, but 539 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 7: I think they will challenge Houston for second in the division. 540 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: And I can't wait to watch him. 541 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 4: It's very rare. 542 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: Usually I really want to watch rookie quarterbacks. I can't 543 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: remember the last time there was a non quarterback, but 544 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 1: I really want to see play. I think he has 545 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: a chance to be an all time special kid. 546 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 7: I know we don't want to relitigate Trevor Lawrence every 547 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 7: single year, but he came in as the next Andrew 548 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 7: Luck caliberquarterback. 549 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: Hasn't totally lived up to it. 550 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 7: Has had a couple injuries, He's had like half a 551 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 7: dozen coaches colin. He's still a young quarterback with major upside. 552 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 7: I'm buying. I'm gobbling up all the Trevor Lawrence stock 553 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 7: I can find. Are you interested in. 554 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: That at all or not? 555 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 7: Really? 556 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 9: Well? 557 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: I will say this, if you look at Indye, and 558 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: if you look at Indy, let's see the Texans have 559 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: an established quarterback. 560 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: Jacksonville two seasons. 561 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: I think if you look at Tennessee and Indy, I 562 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: don't know if they have the offensive firepower to just 563 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: keep up with Jacksonville and Houston. If Houston's healthy, if 564 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: Jacksonville's healthy, it's an offensive league, and I mean it's 565 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: probably the smart player to go. Jacksonville. Texans top two 566 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: in that division either order. They just they have more 567 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: established quarterbacks and more dynamic players around the quarterback. 568 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 7: You have too many questions for the Colts. Let's move 569 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 7: to another team in the AFC. Hey Man, nobody loves 570 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 7: the Patriots like you. 571 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: This is your team that you've stook a. 572 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 7: You know, you've planted a flag in the New England Patriots. 573 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: You love them well. 574 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 7: New head coach Mike Rabel has been putting a lot 575 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 7: of stuff on Drake May's plate, and May's been delivering. 576 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: Here's Rabel just so geeked about his quarterback. There's protections. 577 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 9: I mean, there's when he sees something that he can 578 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 9: help or he sees it a lot better than I 579 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 9: think than some other players, or alignment or you know, 580 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 9: if you see something, say something and don't assume that 581 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 9: everybody's seen it the way that you're seeing it. I 582 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 9: see him get guys in the right formations, or tell 583 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 9: guys that, hey you're off the ball, you're on the ball, 584 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 9: or hey you're over here doing that quickly as before. 585 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 9: Sometimes young quarterbacks they're just focused on the plate. They're 586 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 9: focused on the cadence and not focused on sideline the sideline, 587 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 9: and I think that that's starting to improve. 588 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: Mark now on ten wins, Buddy, Oh, that's an easy one. 589 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: So that's an easy one. 590 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 7: Let me let me challenge you on this Drake May stuff. 591 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 7: So I loved him coming out. I thought he'd be 592 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 7: better than Jayden Daniels. We call that a bit of 593 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 7: a whiss. I am curious who will have a better season, 594 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 7: Drake May or Caleb Williams in year two. 595 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: I think Caleb faces a tougher schedule. I think I 596 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: think Drake May as a proven coach, I think it's 597 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: an easier schedule, and I think. 598 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, it's it's tough. I I 599 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: like Drake May. I thought I thought he was. 600 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: Kind of justin Herbert, just not as polished coming out 601 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: of college. If I had to bet my four one 602 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: k I would say that Drake May will be more 603 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: consistently good than Caleb the Klee will have more flash 604 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: plays and will be more spectacular. But if you're just 605 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: talking seventeen starts, who's more consistently b plus, I would 606 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: say Drake May. 607 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 7: So I am going to read off the wide receiver 608 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 7: depth chart for the Patriots. 609 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: You're talking ten wins. Okay, Number one. 610 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 7: Is Stefan Diggs, who's coming off a major injury, getting 611 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 7: up there in age, and we know more. 612 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: Of a two now we. 613 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 7: Know his off field habits are questionable, to say the least. 614 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: Number two to Mario Douglas. Okay. Number three on the 615 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: depth Dart mac Collins. 616 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 7: That's the guy that Buffalo is like, hey man, you 617 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 7: occasionally showed up. 618 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: Thank you for your service. You're out. 619 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 7: Number four Kyle Williams, Kay, Shawn Boody, Kendrick Bourne Colin. 620 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: That is a weak wide receiver group. One of the 621 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: weeks in the division. 622 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: I will say Kyle Williams is has a potential to 623 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: be very good. Kyle Williams could be one of those 624 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: guys that you look at and go, who's Kyle Williams 625 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: rookie out of Washington State. Right now, he says, a 626 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: really good player. I don't think they have a great 627 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: receiving corps, and I don't think they're a dominant team. 628 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: What I do think they are is ten and seven, 629 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: and they make it in as the Dolphins don't really 630 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: have an identity and the Jets are once again in 631 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: a rebuild. 632 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they are a twelve win team. 633 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be a team that 634 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: wins playoff games, but I think they're gonna get in 635 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: as a wildcard team. 636 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 7: Listen, if Drake may takes that poopoo plotter of receivers 637 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 7: to the playoffs, he I mean, you might as well 638 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 7: just say he's the seventh best quarterback in the league. 639 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 7: Final story, Colin college Football, Your boy, Dabo Sweeney. I 640 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 7: feel like he has been irrelevant since you guys went 641 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,479 Speaker 7: toe to toe a few years ago. He's talking tough 642 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 7: right now. Okay, he finally hits a transfer portal and 643 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 7: now all of a sudden, he told a reporter, I've 644 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 7: had one undefeated team in twenty eighteen. 645 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: We were the first fifteen oh. 646 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 7: Team in the history of major college football, and I 647 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 7: think we're going to be the first sixteen and O 648 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 7: team this year. 649 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: It's a race to do that. 650 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: Now. 651 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 7: Clemson is the class of the ACC, no doubt about it. 652 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 7: They do have an early land mine against LSU and 653 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 7: what should be a very good game on August thirtieth. 654 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: But after that, I mean, the ACC is largely a joke. 655 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: FSU's not very good this year. 656 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: They're going to run through this schedule. Yeah, They're gonna 657 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: run through. He's got a great quarterback. I think they 658 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: returned like fifteen starters. They went to the portal a little. 659 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: I think they went and got like three guys. They 660 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: didn't really use the portal. He's a believer in build 661 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: it with high school football recruiting. They have great connections 662 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: in that region for high school football. They are gonna 663 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: fly through this schedule. Yeah, this is going to be 664 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: This is going to be a top three or four team. 665 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: Like I like Ohio State, Texas, Oregon, they have Penn State. 666 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: They have much tougher schedules than klubs. 667 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll just say I do like Dabo, Dabbo, Dabbo, 668 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 7: whatever you guys want to call him. I just what 669 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 7: he in recent years, he's been so stand office. 670 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 2: I've kind of been off him, but now. 671 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 7: He's talking tough again because he's got a great hand. 672 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 7: Like I meanon Bruce Fellman was telling me this defensive. 673 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: Line is the best in the country. 674 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: Well and there he I think he needed to use 675 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: the portal more than he did. But in fairness, here's 676 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: teams that really used the portal a lot usc LSU 677 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: How did it work? Don't forget Indiana and s m 678 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: U Indiana, it doesn't matter in college football. 679 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 2: Is really awful. 680 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: Like Clemson recruits at a very high level high school football. 681 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: They get a lot of four star guys. And his 682 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: take is I'm not going to use it. Now he's 683 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: using it a little, and I don't think he used 684 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: it enough. But it's okay. If one program that's good 685 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: says we're not gonna you know, like for years, I mean, 686 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: Kentucky led the world in won and done's they got 687 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: they got one title. Well, well, no, it's not bad, 688 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: but everybody knows Calipari was pushed out of Kentucky. Listen 689 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: he would Yeah, he was viewed as underachieving. So this 690 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: idea that the portal is this magic elixur for success, No. 691 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 2: It's not. 692 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: Colorado LSU and the USC have lived on it. It's 693 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: not I think Dabo should have used it more. But 694 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: when you're Clems in a role, if Ohio State used 695 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: a portal for three players a year, they would still 696 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: be winning eleven games as long as the guys they 697 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: got were Caleb Downs level. But I think the portal 698 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: to me is a little overvalued at this point. 699 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 7: With a little overvalue, the analogy I like is the 700 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 7: portal is like Major League Baseball salary cap. Right, you 701 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 7: can spend all you want. It's not going to guarantee success, 702 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 7: but it is certainly going to help your chances at 703 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 7: getting to the postseason if you spend more money in 704 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 7: Major League Baseball as opposed to the bottom feeders who 705 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 7: don't spend money and have no chance if you hit 706 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 7: the portal hard. Keep an eye on to my Texas 707 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 7: Tech red Raiders. I needed them to send me some 708 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 7: swag because I'm all in on them making the playoffs 709 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 7: this year. 710 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: Jmck with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks 711 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: for stopping that. 712 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: The herd line news is Jerry Jones negotiating with players 713 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: directly just really the smart way to do it. 714 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 6: Next third, be sure to catch live editions of The 715 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,959 Speaker 6: Herd weekdays and noon eastern non am Pacific on Fox 716 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 6: Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 717 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting just to show you that the 718 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: nfl PA has never been terribly strong. Jerry Jones basically, 719 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: and he's done this before. He's trying to negotiate with 720 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons directly. The NBA would never allow that, like 721 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: Baseball wouldn't allow that. The players' union's too strong. NBA 722 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't allow it. But that you know, Jerry's done it before, 723 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: he's doing it again with Micah. 724 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: I think the whole thing's a bit of a mess. 725 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 2: I've said this. 726 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have just gotten very insular. The 727 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: schedule is interesting for Dallas because there are a couple 728 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: of teams in this league that I think are in 729 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: big trouble. But they get soft landings early, like you know, 730 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys get the Giants at home early. 731 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: They get you know, the Jets, Carolina and the Bears early, 732 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: though those are all winnable games. I think by week seven, 733 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: here comes Washington, Denver, Philly, Kansas City, Detroit's I think 734 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna get really ugly. I think I think up 735 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: to the by it'll it'll feel okay. Then I think 736 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna start getting into week eleven and on and 737 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: and the I think they're gonna be in big trouble. 738 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: But the whole, the whole Michael Parsons thing. Again, like 739 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: as the league has gotten smarter and modernized, they're really 740 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 1: good teams. 741 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 2: Just get ahead of this stuff. They don't get trapped. 742 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: The Rams and I and I don't say this just 743 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: because I spent nine years in LA. The Rams are 744 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: they don't get into these weird situations. They keep their players. 745 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, Matt Stafford, We're gonna keep him at a camp. 746 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: He's getting bruised, and they just they they know how 747 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: to work all these situations where Dallas feels like they 748 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: inflame all of them. This Mica things should not He's 749 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: been fairly compensated. He's a great player, but I mean 750 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,439 Speaker 1: he's one of the highest cap hits even this year, 751 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of the highest hits for his 752 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: position in the league without getting the big contract yet, 753 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: so he's been fairly compensated. Matt Hasselbeck yesterday on the 754 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: whole Micah Jerry contract on and off. 755 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 10: Jerry Jones seems to like be fine with this kind 756 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 10: of conflict, fine with this kind of drama, but he 757 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 10: also doesn't seem like the kind of owner that wants 758 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 10: to get like pushed around publicly. So you know, there's 759 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 10: a part of me that says, hey, this is Michael Parsons. 760 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 10: Figure it out, closed the door, include the agent. Then 761 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,959 Speaker 10: there's another part of me that says, hey, why don't 762 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 10: you just punt on this year anyway, go out and 763 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 10: get like the most amazing draft package for next year 764 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 10: and really start focusing this team on next year, because 765 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 10: I really don't know that you can compete with Philly 766 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 10: and that you can compete really with Washington. And then 767 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 10: the rest of the NFC. 768 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the Cowboys have the longest NFC championship 769 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: game drought. It's going to turn thirty years this year, 770 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: and they're not going to make the NFC Championship this year. 771 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: But you can blame a lot of factors, and you know, 772 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: I can just blame Jerry Jones, we can all blame Dak, 773 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: but it really comes down to this, how. 774 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 2: Do you draft? 775 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the reason the Rams in Philadelphia, the Lions, 776 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: and the Ravens, you know are consistently good in Buffalo 777 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: is they mostly draft well and Belichick at the end 778 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: of New England last seven years they drafted poorly. Brady 779 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: saw it and left. I stn't think Dallas drafts consistently 780 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: at a high level. And a lot of that is 781 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: Jerry views himself as a GM and he's an owner.