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Speaker 1: What's going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out podcast

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Speaker 1: back again as we head into this, uh the second

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Speaker 1: round of the playoffs. I think it's referred to as

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Speaker 1: a divisional round. I'll call it the second round. And

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Speaker 1: what a just an incredible week of storylines. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the craziest part about this uh week and really, I

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Speaker 1: mean you'll it'll be reflected in this podcast. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna get to the playoffs, the playoffs, playoffs, uh,

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Speaker 1: as Jim Morris Sr. Would say, UH til later. I mean,

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Speaker 1: way too much has happened the last I don't know,

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Speaker 1: forty eight hours with coaching movement, and it just shows

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Speaker 1: you in the NFL, the power, how famous coaches are

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Speaker 1: in the other two major sports, in the NBA and

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Speaker 1: definitely Major League Baseball, how how the value they've come uh.

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Speaker 1: And I have some thoughts and we're gonna dive in

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Speaker 1: to just what happened over the last forty eight hours,

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Speaker 1: my thoughts on the hires, uh Kyler Murray, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll definitely you know, the playoffs. Playoffs are this weekend

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Speaker 1: and games some of the games are outstanding, actually all

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Speaker 1: of them are pretty good on paper. But let's and

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Speaker 1: again and will end with the Middlecoff mail bag. You

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Speaker 1: can always slide up my d M s, slide in

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Speaker 1: my d MS at John Middlecoff, and I'll answer your

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Speaker 1: questions at the end of the podcast. But let's start

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Speaker 1: with this. And I've been saying it for a while.

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Speaker 1: General managers and coaches are not held to the same

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Speaker 1: standard in the industry of the NFL and Pro football.

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Speaker 1: Uh actually there's more pro leagues coming, but the only

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Speaker 1: league that matters the NFL. General managers are not on

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Speaker 1: the same line timeline is coaches. Now, coaches make double

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Speaker 1: triple what gms make, so it's actually cheaper for owners

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Speaker 1: to keep gms. But one thing is very very evident

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Speaker 1: in the last over this week is that many gms

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Speaker 1: enfranchised hire people while the pro sess and the and

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Speaker 1: the thought process of why they hired him, I do

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Speaker 1: believe is correct. And if you're doing a business right

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Speaker 1: now and you are not Internet based, like you can't

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Speaker 1: deliver things to my house, it's gonna be hard for

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Speaker 1: you to succeed or even partner up with people that

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Speaker 1: can deliver to my house, whether that's food, whether that shoes,

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Speaker 1: whether that in the last forty eight hours. I've had

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Speaker 1: golf clubs delivered to my house. I've had clothes delivered

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Speaker 1: to my house. I've had face wash delivered to my

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Speaker 1: house and my home. I I work from home, you know,

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Speaker 1: thirty four year old, I'm just you're coming to me

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Speaker 1: like the game has changed well in football, it's very

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Speaker 1: similar that the way the NFL has set up now. Economically,

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Speaker 1: you've gone all in on the quarterback, meaning you've either

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Speaker 1: paid them twenty to thirty million dollars, which is by

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Speaker 1: far going to be the most amount of money. You've

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Speaker 1: allocated a one player on your cap, or they're still

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Speaker 1: on their rookie deal, but you've allocated a ton of

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Speaker 1: draft resources. You've either traded up to get him, like

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Speaker 1: goff In Wentz help Mr Robiskie, who you know had

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Speaker 1: a hit or miss game, but I I give him credit.

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Speaker 1: He made throws when he had to make throws in

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Speaker 1: that game. On Sunday. They went from pick three to

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Speaker 1: pick two, and they gave up stuff. So in Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson Mahomes, those teams gave up first round picks. Look

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Speaker 1: all these teams have allocated a ton of reason that

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, the Baltimore Ravens last year, the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: they all traded up to get their quarterback. So you

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Speaker 1: want to hire an offensive coach if you're given the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: So I get it, Cliff Kingsbury, Matt Lafleur, Adam Gaze,

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Speaker 1: and I'll get to Adam Gates a little later later.

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Speaker 1: I like Adam Gates. Actually, I think he's a pretty

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Speaker 1: good coach. Who who else am I missing here? Uh,

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Speaker 1: got a lot of jobs that they got these opportunities.

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Speaker 1: But if you look, uh, the the general managers and

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Speaker 1: Mike mccagnan, or you're Steve Kim. Now, I do think

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. To me, he's accomplished a little more than

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Speaker 1: John Dorsey in the sense that he hired a coach.

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Speaker 1: John Dorsey was hired by Andy Reid. Like, so, John

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Speaker 1: Dorsey drafted good players. But I've been around Andy and

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Speaker 1: I know he said he doesn't you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: resume like I wouldn't have fired him either. And I

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Speaker 1: actually think when you look at Cliff Kingsbury, you have

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. He's this unique young millennial that can really

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Speaker 1: sling it. But he's gonna need help. They're gonna need

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Speaker 1: a draft a lot better. Cliff Kingsbury was not coaching

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Speaker 1: at Texas ro Oklahoma. He didn't fail at a big program.

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Speaker 1: He failed a Texas Tech, which I've never been to Lubbock, Texas,

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Speaker 1: But I he doesn't. You don't need to go to

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Speaker 1: Google to know it's in podunct nowhere. No one wins

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Speaker 1: there except Mike Leach. Mike Leach just happens to be

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Speaker 1: one of the most unique and better college football coaches

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Speaker 1: we've seen in recent memory. Everyone else goes there and fail.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing he did when he was at

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech. He was he took their offense to another

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Speaker 1: kind of gets these overachiever guys. He doesn't really work

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Speaker 1: with pros. That wasn't the thing with Cliff Kingsbury. Here's

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Speaker 1: the one thing I like about Cliff Kingsbury. Uh. Also,

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury looks like a male model. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: I think he's dating Holly Saunders of work Fox Golf.

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Speaker 1: But Cliff Kingsbury was raised by a Navy seal green beret.

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Speaker 1: So if you're raising that environment like my dad was

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Speaker 1: a whole different level. I've watched shows and talk to

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Speaker 1: people that know Cliff Kingsbury is a grinder. Again. He

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Speaker 1: looks like he's out partying and just chilling a nine

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Speaker 1: like not quite John Gruden ours, but he's burning, you know,

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of other things, like Kenny lead pros.

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Speaker 1: it's necessarily gonna work, but I do get it. Like

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleour, I watched I watched all these press conferences,

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Speaker 1: and like I said, Freddy Kitchens hasn't talked yet as

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Speaker 1: I'm recording, neither as Adam Gays. Matt Lafleur watching the

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Speaker 1: even believe he got that job. Now, the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: more high profile jobs in this country. The head coach

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Speaker 1: I'm watching him talk. He looked petrified, like that looks

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Speaker 1: like like to me, Cliff Kingsbury is a swing for

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Speaker 1: the fences, but I do know he could lead men.

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Speaker 1: He could lead a program. He's been a pro before.

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Speaker 1: He's a grinder. He knows offense like this guy never

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Speaker 1: let an offense called plays. This year for the first time,

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Speaker 1: you probably know this better than me. And I've gotten

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Speaker 1: The Freddy Kitchen one I've said over and over John

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Speaker 1: Dorsey good GM can evaluate talent like evaluating talent to

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Speaker 1: me sometimes can be a little overrated. How do you

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Speaker 1: like Dorsey does have a questionable history with some of

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Speaker 1: that stuff. Freddy Kitchens never called plays at any level,

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Speaker 1: But the thing people care about the most is when

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Speaker 1: GM's have nothing to do with that. They don't tell

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Speaker 1: if you're alway, you go. I got two elite pass rusher.

426
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Speaker 1: I got one Hall of Famer and one guy that

427
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Speaker 1: looks like it could be All of Famer. I'm going

428
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Speaker 1: all in. Everyone's zigged, I'm gonna zag. I think it's

429
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: everyone zagged. I'm gonna zick. But you get what I'm saying,

430
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Speaker 1: especially in his division, Gruden Andy and Rivers, Lynn Slash

431
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: Wizzen Nunts. Right, So it's an offensive division. I'm going defense,

432
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Speaker 1: and I get it. I I do understand it. But eventually,

433
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Speaker 1: like for Denver to take a step, they are going

434
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Speaker 1: to need a quarterback and to get that quarterback and

435
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna need better offensive guys does. VIC is not

436
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 1: gonna mince words when talking about players. You can do

437
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 1: that with defense. You can m f you know through

438
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Speaker 1: the media. You actually aren't gonna swear when you're doing

439
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Speaker 1: a press conference, but you know what I mean, you

440
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 1: could crush players on defense. They respond to that. Certain

441
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: people you know, on offense, some guys don't mind it,

442
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 1: but most don't like you can't crush wide receivers. You

443
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: can't crush your quarterback because if you crush a quarterback,

444
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Speaker 1: be the number one story on every sports station, uh,

445
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: you know, on potentially my show, on Colin show, on

446
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 1: any show, because quarterbacks are the biggest player besides like

447
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Speaker 1: a top five NBA player in all of sports. So

448
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Speaker 1: that that's what I question. Now. It is a unique

449
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: situation with Gary Kubiak waiting for him, but I watching

450
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Speaker 1: the press conference, I went, wow, Vic Fangio and Bruce

451
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: Arians too, They're they're dying breed of men. My generation

452
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: is just kind of soft. Uh you know that we

453
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Speaker 1: weren't raised like the fans that generation. There aren't as

454
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Speaker 1: many of them, and as you see with these hires,

455
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: they're kind of getting weeded out through the NFL for

456
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Speaker 1: being head coaches. Like the toughness and a hardcore mentality

457
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: to me, will always work in football. I just questioned

458
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Speaker 1: his understanding of offense. Not necessarily he'll let Gary Kubiak

459
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Speaker 1: do everything, but understanding the language that players speak, in

460
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Speaker 1: the sense that the way you have to treat him

461
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Speaker 1: kind of with kid gloves. But I got it, like

462
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Speaker 1: watching him talk, watching him call out kind of Vaughan Miller,

463
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Speaker 1: and he didn't call him out. He just he made

464
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Speaker 1: a statement that a guy in his forties one thousand

465
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Speaker 1: percent could not have made. But he not only made

466
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Speaker 1: it with conviction, Vaughan probably shook his head like this

467
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Speaker 1: is awesome, Like this is Vaughan should be go to

468
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Speaker 1: church on Sunday because that's the type coach of your

469
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Speaker 1: Vaughn you want now was gonna work. Time will tell

470
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 1: they got to get a quarterback. But it kind of

471
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Speaker 1: resonated with me today watching Fangio, like I could see

472
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Speaker 1: where where Elway has played this position. Knows like they

473
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Speaker 1: won a super Bowl with a pretty veteran laden team.

474
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Speaker 1: This this young movement, if you get the can be

475
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: a little overrated, and now so can the experience. Just

476
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: because your experience doesn't mean you're gonna be a good

477
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Speaker 1: head coach. But he had a strength and he doubled

478
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Speaker 1: down on it. Right, I mean I have a strength.

479
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: I can just talk. I've always just I used to

480
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: get yelled at when I was young to shut up,

481
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Speaker 1: and so I've made a career out of just talking.

482
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Speaker 1: It's something that just came naturally to me. I don't

483
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Speaker 1: try to like I'm not a writer. You know, I'm

484
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Speaker 1: not even and great on TV. I'm not a very

485
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: good looking guy, got no air. But I can just

486
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: you give me a mic. I can just talk. Uh,

487
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: and especially when it comes to football. So I've gone

488
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Speaker 1: all in on that. So I you know, I understand

489
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Speaker 1: a Elway just pushing all these chips in the middle

490
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Speaker 1: of the table with the strength that they had. They

491
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Speaker 1: got two elite pass rushers once head of the Hall

492
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Speaker 1: of Fame. Well let's go get the best defensive coach

493
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Speaker 1: on the market. And arguably, I mean, Parcels and Belichick

494
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Speaker 1: have elite resumes, but one of the great all time

495
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Speaker 1: coaches for pass rushers uh in Vic Fangio. Okay, let's uh,

496
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Speaker 1: let's dive into the actual games. You know, this is

497
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Speaker 1: kind of a crazy time of year because the last

498
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Speaker 1: several years, you know, you've had six to eight openings

499
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: that you head coaching hires or just big topics, you know,

500
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just everyone's got an opinion and they're fun.

501
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's there's nothing better than a football coaching

502
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: higher because it's just then the assistant coaches come. It's

503
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Speaker 1: it's awesome. I love talking about it. Uh. But the

504
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: games do matter, and they matter a lot. And you

505
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Speaker 1: don't have to be a math major to realize we're

506
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Speaker 1: coming down the home stretch of the season. Six games

507
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Speaker 1: left for this weekend, excuse me, seven for this weekend

508
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Speaker 1: to the following weekend in the Super Bowl, So we

509
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Speaker 1: don't have that much football left. I don't count the

510
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. You know this, This is all she wrote.

511
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Speaker 1: So if you enjoy football, which if you're listening to

512
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Speaker 1: this you definitely do. If you like gambling, which if

513
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Speaker 1: you're listening to this you probably do. Uh, you only

514
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: have so much stuff left to bed on. But these

515
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Speaker 1: this weekend arguably the best weekend, just given you have

516
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Speaker 1: four games. You got four I mean Brady Rivers, Mahomes, Breeze,

517
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Speaker 1: Big Dick, Nick, I mean, you just go through the list.

518
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Speaker 1: It's just the cream of the crop. That'd be Nick Foles.

519
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Speaker 1: And I think let's start. Let's go game by game,

520
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Speaker 1: and I'll just give you a couple of things that

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Speaker 1: come to my mind immediately. Okay, we'll start on Saturday

522
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Speaker 1: afternoon if you live on the East Coast, I guess

523
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Speaker 1: it would be Saturday late afternoon, Saturday night, were thirty

524
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Speaker 1: one thirty Mit time we got the Chiefs versus the Colts, UH.

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Speaker 1: Last there's some history involved in this game. The last

526
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Speaker 1: time the Chiefs, who have been a really good franchise

527
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Speaker 1: over the last twenty five years, the last time they

528
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Speaker 1: won a home playoff game. They're own six since the

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Speaker 1: guy named Joe Montana was their quarterback. So there are

530
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Speaker 1: some demons in this game now, not necessarily with coach Read,

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Speaker 1: but they're kind of are you know, since he's been

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Speaker 1: a Chief's head coach. They lost to the Colts, and

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Speaker 1: I think statistically number one is the biggest comeback in

534
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Speaker 1: NFL history. The last time they hosted a playoff game

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Speaker 1: last year, they lost to the Tennessee Titans in a

536
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Speaker 1: pretty big upset. The year before that, that was the

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Speaker 1: that was wild Card Weekend. Two years ago they played

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Speaker 1: the Steelers UH in the second round when they had

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Speaker 1: a home field by and they lost. So and he

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Speaker 1: has a long resume of winning playoff games. He's won

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Speaker 1: a ton in Philadelphia in Campas City has only won one.

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Speaker 1: Now this, I think this is the best quarterback he's

543
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Speaker 1: ever had. I don't know if this is his best team.

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Speaker 1: Some of those early Alex Smith teams were so well rounded.

545
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Speaker 1: They were really built for the playoffs. The problem was

546
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Speaker 1: Alex this. Can you imagine if you put some Homes

547
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Speaker 1: on some of those early teams they went Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Uh this, I do think Andy's gonna win this game.

549
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna, you know, kind of shake the

550
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Speaker 1: demons get over the hump. But I'm very interested because

551
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: last week you saw it. Defense does matter and their

552
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Speaker 1: defense is not very good now. Their defensive line, they

553
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: lead the league in sacks. But say what you want,

554
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: the Colts offensive line has been fantastic this year. I

555
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: don't think Luck has been touched in forever. So can

556
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Speaker 1: they pressure consistently against the Colts elite offensive line? I

557
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: just think that Mahomes has been too good. Now He's

558
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: never played in the playoff game. Uh, this is the

559
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Speaker 1: biggest game by a mile he's ever played in his life.

560
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Speaker 1: And you know it's supposed to snow. As talking to

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Speaker 1: a buddy on the chief staff that said, you know,

562
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Speaker 1: I'm my snow tomorrow, as in, if you're listening to

563
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: this today, Friday and even a little Saturday morning, but

564
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: by game time it's gonna be cold. It's still not

565
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: an ideal thing to do. If you're a quarterback to

566
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Speaker 1: play in that environment. But I just think the Chiefs

567
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: are is too good. I think the chip on Andy

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Speaker 1: shoulder to just you know, shake the demon somewhat, uh,

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Speaker 1: and shake this narrative that's kind of grown like he

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Speaker 1: can't win a big game that people watching in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's won the division now three straight years.

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Speaker 1: He's been winning big games last couple of years. Now

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs a different animal. Uh. But I I

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Speaker 1: think the Chiefs have no excuse not to win this.

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Speaker 1: I think when you look at the Colts, uh, they're

576
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Speaker 1: a year ahead of schedule. Like making the playoffs this

577
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: year was gravy beating a division rival in the first round. Gravy.

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Speaker 1: Their quarterback is now healthy. Uh, their offensive line, the

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Speaker 1: running backs look solid. Darius Leonard looks like a star.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's still there's still several pieces away on

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Speaker 1: defense to me from being a really dynamic team. They're

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Speaker 1: just uberflus. The guy that Josh McDaniels hires is not

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Speaker 1: a hell of a up. I think they lose this weekend.

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Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs move on and I think at

585
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, the Colts had an incredible season,

586
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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs just can't. You can't lose this game.

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Speaker 1: You can't be the one seed. You can't have the quarterback,

588
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: be the m v P the league and lose this game.

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00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: I don't care if you win two to nothing or

590
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, win a Rams Chief game fifty one. You

591
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: have to win this game, and ultimately I think they're

592
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Speaker 1: gonna win this game. I actually like him to cover

593
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: the five and a half points is what I have

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Speaker 1: him at right now. Dallas l a I've been riding Dallas.

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Speaker 1: I think Dallas is built for this. They have. I

596
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: was talking with a buddy today in the league. I

597
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: said it at the time, and I know he was

598
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Speaker 1: playing kind of shitty and he just wasn't that into it.

599
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Speaker 1: But I don't blame him that the Raiders were in shambles.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people quite realize how big Damari Cooper

601
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Speaker 1: mid season trade was. Like Amari Cooper when he came

602
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Speaker 1: out was the number four overall pick. If he was

603
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Speaker 1: in this draft, you'ld be a top five pick. Mark

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Speaker 1: Cooper's a stud and you guys who's having a bad year.

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Speaker 1: You know before he got here, well, Derek was and

606
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: playing that well Gruden was off. They traded all the players.

607
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: They were just in shambles. The guy's twenty four years old.

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Speaker 1: He's a stud. Last week he had seven catches for

609
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Speaker 1: a hundred yards. He's a blue chipper. Zeke might be

610
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Speaker 1: the best running back in the league, and that includes

611
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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. Like Zeke as he wants. As he called

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Speaker 1: Dak last week, he's a grown ass man. I as

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Speaker 1: I said on on the earlier This Week podcast, I

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Speaker 1: like Dac more than most. I think he's like a

615
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Speaker 1: poor man's Cam Newton meets Russell Wilson. There's something about him.

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Speaker 1: The dude. I I trust him in these big games. Now.

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Speaker 1: He's flawed, he doesn't have a great arm. He can

618
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: be a little inaccurate on the deep ball. Uh. But

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Speaker 1: I think they go to l A and win. They're

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Speaker 1: They're my favorite bet this weekend. I love him getting

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Speaker 1: a touchdown on the road. I just think they're tougher.

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Speaker 1: I think they're more physical. Jared goff If Mahomes hasn't

623
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Speaker 1: played in a big game, Goffs played in one, and

624
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Speaker 1: that was last year's playoff game. He did not play well.

625
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: He also did not play that well down the stretch

626
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Speaker 1: because Gurley has been banged up. They're very dependent on

627
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, just like Dak is dependent on Zeke. But

628
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: Tiger Earle is not healthy right now. H Cooper cups

629
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: long gone. The defense is a shell of itself. That's

630
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Speaker 1: the one thing about the Cowboys. They cover and their

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00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: linebackers make a lot of place. The Rams linebackers are

632
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: not great. Marcus Peters has not played that well the

633
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Speaker 1: second half of the season. Keep to Leave is just

634
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: a guy now, So I I just think the Cowboys

635
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: are better now. I'd rather have Sean McVeigh for sure

636
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Speaker 1: than Jason Garrett. But I've always been someone that was

637
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: higher on Sean McVeigh than most, or excuse me, higher

638
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: on Jason Garrett than most. If he wins this game,

639
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: and he just won back to back playoff games, I

640
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: think we gotta kind of stop talking crap about Jason

641
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: Garrett and making fun of him as the clapper because

642
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: this was a pretty impressive season. Once they got a

643
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: Marie like, they won the East, Uh, then they've won

644
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: two playoff games again. I like them to win this weekend.

645
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: I know Jerry said that they're comfortable going to l A.

646
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: They have training camp out there. Jerry's from Los Angeles,

647
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: not that that means anything for the players, but the

648
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: crowd's gonna be interesting. I think it'll be at minimum

649
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: fifty fifty. Hell, I don't even know how many Ram fans.

650
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: I think people watch the Rams in l a like

651
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: quote unquote Rams fans there. I would bet my life

652
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: there are more Cowboys fans in the greater Los Angeles

653
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: area than there are Rams fans. Well, and that's the

654
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: case for a lot of major cities, So there's a

655
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: lot of Cowboys fans. So I think there it's basically

656
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a home field advantage for him. Uh And

657
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: I just like the Cowboys to win Sunday morning game.

658
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: This is a great Sunday morning game. I'm not in

659
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: the business of betting against Brady and Belichick. I don't

660
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: care if Brady's getting old, Belichick's you know, kind of

661
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: losing his fastball, gronx the shell of himself. Like, you

662
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: bet against Brady and Belichick in fox be Foxboro in January,

663
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose nine times out of ten. But and

664
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: I think it's been a talking point all week long,

665
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna just rehash the same ship everyone

666
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: else is saying, because everyone knows this, the Chargers roster

667
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: is better. But I really do think it's their time.

668
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go down. They're gonna win this game,

669
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go down as one of the great

670
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: road teams of all time. There's seven and one right

671
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: now on the road. They beat the Chiefs, They've obviously

672
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: beat the Steelers. I know the Steeler at the time,

673
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: the Steelers weren't that bad, uh, and then to go

674
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: on the road to Baltimore and then to go on

675
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: the road where there are only a four point underdog,

676
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: and that shows you, Like typically, I was telling someone

677
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: this week, when's the last time that the New England

678
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: Patriots in the second round? They they've had to buy

679
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: for like the last eight years, they've been the one

680
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: or the two seeds. So they've always had the home

681
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: game in this round. You know, I'm not talking about

682
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: the next round. They've been on the road a couple

683
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: of times there, but they've always been the home team

684
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: in this round. For this kind of gronk run, I'll

685
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: call it the Gronk era, and I would say at minimum,

686
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: typically they've played Houston several times they played the Tebow

687
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: team the one time they played Tennessee last year. They

688
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: have been close to like a double digit UH favorite

689
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: in most of these games, like ten to fourteen points.

690
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: This is easy. Their toughest competition in this round not

691
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: even close. And there is a lot of pressure on Rivers.

692
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: You know, he's got to play well. But I think

693
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: the I think the Chargers, I want to call them

694
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers, are just equipped for the playoffs. They

695
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: have an elite pass rush. They have I wouldn't call

696
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: him an elite player, but a damn good running back,

697
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame level quarterback. Multiple wide receivers whose

698
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: games translate to a f C playoff football, meaning they

699
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: can play in cold games and weather games. Because they

700
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: don't they're not dependent on speed like an Kuan Bolden

701
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: and Larry Fitzgerald were elite playoff players. Why now, Larry

702
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: did a lot of his work indoors, but you could

703
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: throw Larry in a snow game and he'd bowl. And

704
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: Kuan I saw it with the forty Niners when they

705
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: traded for him, and obviously with the Ravens. I think

706
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: Steve Smith was like this too, and Kuan was better

707
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: just because it's bigger, physical, not dependent on speed. So

708
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the turf is like or the

709
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: field snowing, rain, sleep, whatever. Throwing me the ball, I'll

710
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: make contested catches. Keenan Allen and Mike Williams are like that.

711
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates runs like a five five forty right now.

712
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: Who cares? He doesn't even need to get open to

713
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: get catches. Uh So again, don't get me wrong, I

714
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: am not in the business of betting against Belichick and Brady.

715
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to be a contrarian on this one.

716
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: I just I believe in this Charger team. I think

717
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: they're built to win this game, and I think this

718
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: is just, you know, one of those seasons where you know,

719
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: things went against New England. Gronk fell off, a cliff

720
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: Edelman wasn't the same guy, Brady got old fast. You know,

721
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: you just sometimes your first round pick, your first round

722
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: offensive tackle terroris achilles, so you have to kind of

723
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: shuffle your offensive line. You know you're bound you're not

724
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: gonna make the Super Bowl. Every year they've been on

725
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: the greatest run, you know, probably in NFL history. Let's

726
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: call it what it is. When you factor in free

727
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: agency and the way the sport is set up now,

728
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: so they're bound to have a quote unquote off year

729
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: And if that means eleven and five and lose in

730
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: the second round of the playoffs to a damn good

731
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: Charger team that went twelve and four, like, tip your hat.

732
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: And you know, I I don't even think it would

733
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: be that bad at a loss. Now, if they got

734
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: blown out, that would probably be a problem. But I

735
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: think at the end of the Charges is just really good.

736
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: They got a ton of just all star level players

737
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: or as you call it in football, as we call

738
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: in football, Pro bowlers, right Like, I'm not saying guys

739
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: that get into the Pro Bowl once there's an injury.

740
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking about first ballot Bosa, Ingram Derwin, James, Melvin Gordon,

741
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen like blue Chippers. So I like Charges to

742
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: win this weekend just because from a football standpoint, not

743
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: I'm not betting against Belichick, and it's not even I'm

744
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: betting against Belichicken Brady. I I just think they run

745
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: in there's just been a season where they're just not

746
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: that good. And I am somewhat betting against Brady. I

747
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: think he's a little old, you know, and I think

748
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: it's kind of catching up to him. I've seen him

749
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: do a couple of things this season. And I've been

750
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: watching Brady pretty closely for especially the last ten years.

751
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: Like in the peak of his powers, when he became

752
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan of football, he was a surgeon in

753
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: big moments, in certain situations. And I've seen him this

754
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: year at the end of a half screw up, uh down,

755
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: you know, like take a sack where they don't get

756
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: a field goal out of it. I've seen him throw

757
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: red zone turnovers that he just i mean, uncharacteristic, doesn't

758
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: even do it justice like Tom Brady did that, know,

759
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: And that's what he's been. Something's been off about him

760
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: this year. You know. It's it's incredible he's even been

761
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: as good as he's been. I know, he made the

762
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. He wasn't deserving. Uh, you know, Luck should

763
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: have got in over Luck had a better season. And

764
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: then the last game. Uh, I think our man Nick Foles,

765
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: the football gods have carried him. Now he's fouring one

766
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I mean he's lost one game that

767
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: first year with Chip when they lost to New Orleans

768
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: in the first round. But these last last year, you

769
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: know when he went three and oh he won the

770
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: first round against Atlanta, the NFC Championship against Minnesota, and

771
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: then the historic Super Bowl m v P, and then

772
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: last week. You know, he was hit or missed, but

773
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: when it mattered the most, he looked like Joe Montana.

774
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Their defense plays well. I do think they're running into

775
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: somewhat of a buzz saw. I think no team, even

776
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, has less of an excuse not to be

777
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: representing in the Super Bowl than New Orleans Saints. They

778
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: had the best home field advantage left in the playoffs

779
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: that includes Kansas City, just because that dome, how loud

780
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna be, how good they are in that dome.

781
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: How they don't really have playoff demons like the Chiefs.

782
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: Like they should win this game. They're a huge favorite.

783
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: They're playing a six seed on their backup quarterback. I know,

784
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: the guy just won the Super Bowl, but I mean,

785
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: come on, uh, and their team is just really good.

786
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: It's just that simple. I mean, they have a Hall

787
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback. It's weird to say, in the peak

788
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: of his powers, he's thirty eight years old, but Jesus Christ,

789
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is awesome. Alvin Kamara, I mean you text,

790
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: I text a round buddies in the league, I say,

791
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: U Tex. I mean it's hard to text people the

792
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: league if you don't know anyone in the league. But

793
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: I text people in the league and they just they

794
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: think Alvin Kamara and who doesn't it's just the real deal.

795
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's beyond special. Mark Ingram's a stud, uh,

796
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas all pro level season. And defensively that they

797
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: do enough to get by. You know, their past rushes

798
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: saw their defensive backs gonna be a little hit or miss,

799
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: but just it's hard to play offense in that environment.

800
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I think Sean Payton,

801
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: that win last week for the Eagles was incredible, Like,

802
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: they don't need to win this game. If there if

803
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: it's like a tie game at halftime, honestly, if they

804
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: if they are in the game going into the second half,

805
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: that is just an incredible accomplishment for Doug Peterson and

806
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: Nick Foles. Just an incredible accomplishment because it's I think

807
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: it's eight and a half points. I probably wouldn't bet

808
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: on this game that I'm not betting against the football

809
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: gods and Nick Foles, but they got no business to

810
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: lose by or you know, to keep this game within

811
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns. And the Saints. I think the

812
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: Saints win this game. And the Eagles had a hell

813
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: of a season, showed the championship, Moxie, championship, blood and

814
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: that Chicago game. I mean, Michael down is the best

815
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: game of this entire playoffs. But uh, that's That's a

816
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: pretty good Sunday after new games. So I like, I

817
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs, I like the Cowboys in an upset.

818
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: I like the Chargers in an upset, though I know

819
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: it is an upset because of the Patriots, but if

820
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: the game was on a neutral field, I think it'd

821
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: be a coin flip. So I don't think it's that

822
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: crazy and upset. And then and then I like the

823
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: Saints pretty big against the Eagles. Okay, before we get

824
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: in the middlecoff mail back, I'm just gonna touch on

825
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: this because I've talked about this topic a lot, so

826
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna, you know, rehash the same things over

827
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: and over. But Susan Slusser, you know, big win here

828
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: for the local newspapers and the chronicles hanging on for

829
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: Dear life. Uh, that'd be the San Francsco Chronicle. She's

830
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, she's an old school journalist, you know that

831
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: just continues to break story. She covers the A's she

832
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: broke a story. I guess it would have been what

833
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm recording this. It would have been Wednesday night, and

834
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: it Tailer Murray that the A she she's tied with

835
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: Billy and Dave Force the GM, and she knows the

836
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: A's very well. They expect him to go pro and

837
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: not play baseball. And I said it a while ago

838
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: that the numbers didn't add up. Once he was it

839
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 1: was clear he was gonna be a top NFL pick.

840
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: And I texted a lot of people over the last

841
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: twenty four hours and I asked, is he gonna be

842
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: a first round pick? And everyone responded yes. And then

843
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: I asked, like at quarterback or I for I asked

844
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: that wide receiver And I didn't ask that wide receiver

845
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: because I don't think he can play quarterback like Lamar Jackson,

846
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: Like when Bill Polian said that, and Twitter went into

847
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: a tizzy and the PC bros like, Lamar Jackson can't

848
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: throw if you put him in the Pacific Ocean on

849
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: a boat. He could not hit water. He's an inaccurate quarterback,

850
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: highly inaccurate quarterback, cannot complete passes. He saw in the

851
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: playoff game. He saw it all. See he's a glorified

852
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: running back. Kyler Murray, he has one negative. It's he's

853
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: a he's a midget. He's five eight and a half

854
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: five nine. He's very small and like you go through

855
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. First, there's never been a

856
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: five nine quarterback draft in the first round. Six ft quarterbacks.

857
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is an all time out lawyer. To go

858
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: that high, they typically go second, third round if they're

859
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: elite people. Forget Russell Wilson, who was five ten, weighed

860
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: like two five pounds. I think coming out of college

861
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: he was two fifteen. He's built like a tank. Kyler

862
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: Murray might be a hundred seventy five pounds dripping wet,

863
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: but as a quarterback, he's accurate. He has great instincts

864
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: as a passer. Is an athleticism speaks for itself. So

865
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: to meet him and Lamar Jackson, they don't have that

866
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: many parallels in the sense one guy can pass, one

867
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: guy can't. So I asked as a wide receiver, and

868
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: everyone said no, as a quarterback, and a lot of

869
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: people freaked out, like going do the same thing with

870
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Yeah, we did. It was with Lamar Jackson

871
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: because he can't pass. With Kyler, it's just canny play

872
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: quarterback because he's tiny and he's gonna get a shot

873
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: and it's a big reason because of the influx of

874
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: all the college offenses. I'll be fascinated to see when

875
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: he weighs in and gets his height at the combine. Again,

876
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: as of right now, he hasn't officially said he's gonna

877
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: do the combine. I think he ends up at the combine.

878
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: I would recommend you don't have to throw, like throwing

879
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: as an actrimute he has, but I would run. I

880
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: would do all the athletic testing because that's really you know,

881
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: if you're like a you know what, I'm trying to

882
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: think of an analogy. If you're interviewing for a job

883
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: and you are the greatest typer of all time, wouldn't

884
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: you want to and you're gonna be working on a

885
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: computer for some company, wouldn't you want them to see

886
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: you type just so they could be like, oh my god,

887
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: like I want I want to hire that. You know,

888
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: if you could type, I don't even know what a

889
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: lot of words a minute is, but whatever that number

890
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: and times it by, like you're the fastest typer in

891
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: the world. Like if you're Kyler Murray and you're he runs,

892
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: I would guess just eyeballing and watching him play, he's

893
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: probably a high four three guy, like maybe run like

894
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: a four three five he would haul ask if you

895
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: run fast, run if you're slow. I get avoiding it.

896
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: It's why Keenan Allen avoided it. It's why, uh, you know,

897
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree avoided it. Now at quarterback it doesn't matter

898
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: as much, but he's If you're a five nine quarterback,

899
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: you better be fast. Well, he is fast. You know.

900
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: Last year it made no sense when Lamar Jackson didn't run.

901
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: He let Twitter dictate his thoughts. You know you are

902
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: a quarterback, do not run? Well? Did you guys watch

903
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: Lamar play? He's a running back. Why wouldn't you just run?

904
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: Maybe he would have gone ten spots higher. I said it.

905
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: I said, I've been saying it for the last six months.

906
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: Twitter cost Lamar Jackson money because they got in his head.

907
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: Social media and made him think you gotta play quarterback,

908
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: And yeah, play quarterback, but run, Like, if you're fast, run,

909
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: you know there's no reason not to run if you

910
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: can move fast, even if you play quarterback. So I

911
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: hope when Kyler Murray, if he goes to combine, he

912
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: don't care if he throws or not. I've already seen

913
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: him throw. He's an awesome thrower. But run. And I

914
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: do think the height, like if he's five eight and

915
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: a half, if that's what he measures in that when

916
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: they take his shoes off, the conversation is gonna be

917
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: pretty polarizing. If he's five nine and a half, maybe

918
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: he's just an all time outlier. But I do know

919
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: this when you start drafting a bunch of a bunch

920
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: of outliers, like eventually you don't get a Russell Wilson

921
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: or a Drew Brees. And I'm saying this is someone

922
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: that I don't like Kyler Murray. I love Kyler Murray,

923
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: but I do get nervous with outliers, Like I like

924
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: my quarterbacks to look like Andrew Locker, Philip Rivers. You know,

925
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: I like my defensive ends to not be six ft

926
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: to look like Khalil Mack, you know, to look like

927
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: you know, I like my defensive lineman to look like

928
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox. You draft a bunch of Aaron Donald's, most

929
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: of them are gonna be able to play. But Geno Atkins, yeah,

930
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: he's he's an outlier. You know. So we're getting to this.

931
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: A lot of people that talk a big game, especially

932
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: on social media, about like small guys can play, have

933
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: never been to us, been to an NFL practice, Like

934
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: did you see the size of the players in the

935
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: National Championship Game? Go to h forty Niners practice, go

936
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: to a Philadelphia Eagles practice and just see the size

937
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 1: of these humans. Eight many men just walking through that door.

938
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: In football relative to like basketball was short guys. There

939
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: are a lot of guys six one six, two six three,

940
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: but they are not small. You know this this think

941
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: that like it's a no brainer. It's not like it

942
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: is a conversation. And again, I like Kyler Murray a lot.

943
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: But if he measures in it really small, short, and

944
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: he's going to measure in and not very tall like there, Eventually,

945
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: like these outliers, eventually you're gonna run into something. Now,

946
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: the rules have helped smaller guys and just quarterbacks in general.

947
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 1: The stats are inflated, it's easier than ever to play

948
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: the position. There are clearly an influx of offensive coaches,

949
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: just head coaches in general. Uh so it's never been

950
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: easier to play quarterback. And I do think people coaches

951
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: at least would be more inclined to implement schemes that

952
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: guys in college had success with where ten twenty thirty

953
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: years and that wasn't gonna you were gonna have to

954
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: do what they did. That's not necessarily the case anymore.

955
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: But again, a five nine pound guy, I don't care

956
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: if he runs a three oh forty. It's gonna be difficult.

957
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna be big time challenges to play the position.

958
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: That being said, he might just be that special that

959
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: that he can do what I'm fascinated to see. I

960
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: also think that he'll always have to fall back on

961
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: that he could play other positions and just right off

962
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: the bat, like if he goes in the first round,

963
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: that means he's gonna be starting year one. And it

964
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: was an easy decision, Like you ain't gonna write a bus,

965
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: You're not gonna go play in what Poe dunc middle

966
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: of nowhere Texas in New Mexico in front of a

967
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: hundred people. You know, while they have like beer chugging

968
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: contests in the fourth inning. You ain't gonna do that

969
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: when you can be the starting quarterback for I don't know,

970
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. You know what would you rather do?

971
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: Be the starting quarterback for the Miami Dolphins or play

972
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: for the Oakland A's rookie you know fallball team in

973
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: North Dakota. I got an answer for you. That's called

974
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. So there really wasn't a decision here.

975
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: Once it was pretty clear that the league was probably

976
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: gonna give him a shot to play quarterback, and he

977
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: was gonna go pretty high in the quarterback class. Beside,

978
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: Haskins is not very good. Actually, the Duke guy is

979
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: pretty good too, I heard. But this this was a

980
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: no brainer, not even factoring in the money. And this

981
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: notion that everyone in baseball gets paid is just not true.

982
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: You know, I heard gott Leep say today, Aaron John's

983
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: making six thousand dollars. He's been the show now for

984
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: like three years, and that's after playing in the miners

985
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: for a while. Like there is a process. Bryce Harper

986
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: spent two years in the minors. Even if you're a

987
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 1: generate buster. Posey spent time in the Mike Lincicum, who

988
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: was arguably one of the great and I repeat great

989
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: minor league picture he flew through the system, still spent

990
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: a year in the minors, and he's an when the

991
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: cy youngest first year as a starter like more than likely.

992
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: Even if Kyler Murray was to make the show, it

993
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: would probably take him three years in the minor leagues.

994
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: That's three years of riding buses. Easy answer, No thanks, Okay,

995
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's dive into the Middlecoff mail bag slide

996
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: been my d MS at John Middlecoff. Easiest way to

997
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: do it, and I'll answer your questions. I had a

998
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: question that I accidentally deleted. I was looking at a

999
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, uh, and I couldn't Then I

1000
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: must have deleted because I couldn't find it after I

1001
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: saw it. And then basically the question was Eli Manning

1002
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: has two Suita bowls, but it feels like the media

1003
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: and fans just shipped on him constantly. Why why is that?

1004
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: And I do think it's because he just hasn't played

1005
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: very well the last two or three years. He can't move.

1006
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: Uh that they have, I mean the premier skip one

1007
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: of them, a top three or four receiver in the league.

1008
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: Ingram's of stud This year they had Barkley and he

1009
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: just wasn't very good. Now their offensive line has been terrible,

1010
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 1: but partly is because of him. He just can't move.

1011
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: So I his high highs were incredible, Like that game

1012
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: he had against the Niners in two thousand eleven on

1013
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: the road in the rain was legendary. You know, he

1014
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: beat the Packers before on the road in a cold

1015
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: game in Green Bay. But I do think he's been

1016
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: below average the last couple of years. And you know,

1017
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: I don't blame him for not doing this because he

1018
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: makes so much money, but no one everyone would understand

1019
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: if he just retired like his game probably warrants just

1020
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: just retiring. But again I wouldn't pass up twenty million

1021
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: dollars either. Uh. Do you think the Packers title window

1022
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: is firmly shut or do you think under a new

1023
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: head coach that Aaron can make a deep push in

1024
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Good question. As as I said earlier, I

1025
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: just don't like the head coach. I think he's beyond

1026
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 1: over his head. He looked scared. You know, he doesn't

1027
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: have much presence. I don't know how he's gonna, you know,

1028
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: be able to just command and force Aaron to do

1029
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: what he wants him to do. Now, I do think

1030
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: the roster is better than people give it credit for

1031
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: their defensive solid this year, Petton is staying on. You know,

1032
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: Davante is the top six or seven wide receiver. Their

1033
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: offensive line is good. Obviously they have Aaron, but the

1034
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: division is a problem. I mean, the Bears are not

1035
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: going away. Uh. The Minnesota Vikings roster is still gonna

1036
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: be really good next year. Lions suck, but uh, well,

1037
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: at least their head coach sucks. I actually don't think

1038
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: their roster is bad. But yeah, I mean, I think

1039
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: the windows relatively shut just because I got no faith

1040
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: that Matt lafleur Is is gonna lead this team to

1041
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Now again, if if Aaron can start playing

1042
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: like an m v P again, that there'll they'll be

1043
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: in the playoff mix. I just don't know. I'm not

1044
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: gonna bet against Aaron Rodgers MS betting against Matt lafloor

1045
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: big time Vikings fan, and I don't love the direction

1046
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: of the team. What are the chances kirk Cousins gets

1047
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: signed after his three years? If not, when do they

1048
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: start looking for a quarterback in the draft? Good question?

1049
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: The direction, I mean the actually the rosters the roster

1050
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: and the roster is excellent to me. It's on Mike

1051
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: Zimmer to understand, like the league's change man. You know,

1052
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: he can't force a square peg into a roundhole. You

1053
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: pay a lot for this quarterback. I've heard Dilford talk

1054
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: about it before that. If you look statistically at kirk

1055
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: Cousin's career, he does his best work on early downs.

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00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: Forcing him in a third and long is not his

1057
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: strong suit. He's not Philip Rivers, Tom Brady or Andrew Luck.

1058
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: But if you give him first intend, let him throw

1059
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: the ball. You got two lead receivers. I still think

1060
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: that roster they could easily be a playoff team next year.

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00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: And when it comes looking for a quarterback in the draft,

1062
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: you know you're all in right now. You spend that

1063
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: much money, you're not even thinking about it. You wouldn't

1064
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: even entertain that thought until after next year. So it

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00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't even come up till next year. And yeah, I

1066
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: mean he would. He had a good statistical season. I mean,

1067
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: I know he kind of gets crushed and he wouldn't

1068
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: be the first guy to wanting a big moment, but

1069
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: he's better than you think, and I think at the

1070
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: end of the day that next year will kind of

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00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: find his career if they missed the playoffs again with

1072
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: this roster, Theland Diggs, Dalvin Cook, you know, all those

1073
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: defensive guys for the most part, are still under contracts.

1074
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: I think, like Anthony barr Uh, they have several draft picks.

1075
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna take offensive lineman that if he

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00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: misses the playoffs next year, he'll just be a kind

1077
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: of a laughing stock. Not a laughing stock because he's

1078
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: still be solid, but I mean it's he's got pressure

1079
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: on it's playoffs or bust next year. Or you could

1080
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: argue that if he misses the playoffs next year and

1081
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: part of it's like him in big games not playing

1082
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: that well, you could argue it's an all time just

1083
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: bad contract. Not that he's like Albert Haynesworth or anything,

1084
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: but given why they signed him and how much guaranteed

1085
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: money they gave him, every penny on the deal's guaranteed,

1086
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: which pro capitalism here I I'm glad he did it,

1087
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: Like I nothing but respect for fighting for that. You

1088
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: should like he had leverage, but he's gotta you know,

1089
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: piss or get off the pot. Hey John, Uh, I

1090
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,240
Speaker 1: know you likely want to address this on the show,

1091
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: but how bad is the Bengals job. I'm a Cincinnati

1092
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: native and have been waiting to see Marvin fired for years.

1093
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: We have a ton of talent everywhere and should never

1094
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: have been this bad. Defensively, who do you see as

1095
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: hiring offensive minor defensive guy? Well, as I was recording

1096
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: the end of this, I saw on Twitter that schefter

1097
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: or Mortenson reported that Press Taylor, I think he's a

1098
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: quarterback coach, might be the offensive coordinator. Uh, you know,

1099
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: he's a McVeigh guy, that's all matters. He's friends with him.

1100
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: He could be mcveigh's I'm shock mcveigh's girlfriend didn't get

1101
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: a job that he's mcveigh's guy. So they're going on offense,

1102
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: which you know, it's kind of the trend. I mean

1103
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: every offensive guy was hired. This guy's thirty five years old.

1104
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: Remember he used to play quarterback along you know, fifteen

1105
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: years ago at at Nebraska. Been working in the NFL

1106
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: for a while. Uh. To me, they have they do

1107
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: have a lot of talent on their roster. To me,

1108
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: gotta get off the Andy Dalton train, like just time

1109
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: to move on. Uh. But that's I think people would

1110
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: take took Marvin Lewis a little bit for granted, how

1111
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: hard that job was, how tough it is working for

1112
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: that owner. Uh. Now they do acquire a lot of talent.

1113
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: They are good at that, Like they do scout really well.

1114
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: That's like that's the difference between them and the Raiders.

1115
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: Both are really cheap and you know it's a mom

1116
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: and pop shop and they always struggled for you know,

1117
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: market share and stuff. But man, the Bengals over the

1118
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: last fifteen years, think of all the studs they've drafted.

1119
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: They've they've done a hell of a job drafting. You know,

1120
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: it's just they just haven't been able to get over

1121
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: the top, you know, in the playoffs. And one of

1122
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: it was a little unlucky the year Carson Palmer got hurt.

1123
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: But the last four or five years, I thought the

1124
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: year that Andy Dalton broke his thumb or torres thumb

1125
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: or whatever that injury was, that was the year they

1126
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: got Hugh Jackson the job in Cleveland. I thought they

1127
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: were poised to make a legit run. Remember A J.

1128
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: Mccarroon lost the wild card game. Obviously you do if

1129
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: you're asking the question because you're Bengals fan. But I

1130
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: thought that team was really good and kind of unlucky.

1131
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Aji mccarroen sneaks, so you you gotta start

1132
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: Agie McCarron. In a playoff game? Are they playing the

1133
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: Steelers either the Steelers of the Raven They're pretty sure

1134
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: it was was the Jets. I can't. I can't even

1135
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: it might have been a team in their division, might

1136
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: have been the Steelers, might have been I can't even. Yeah, Steelers,

1137
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: maybe they Yeah. So Press Taylor, I honestly don't know

1138
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: much about him, just besides a McVeigh guy. If you're

1139
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: a McVeigh guy, you get a you know, I should

1140
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: tweet out right now I know Sean McVeigh. Because a

1141
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: lot of people are being sarcastic and making fun of it,

1142
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: but it really is that true, Like, you know, Musan McVeigh,

1143
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: you're getting hired Press Taylor, So I can't say I

1144
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: hate it or not like it. I know nothing about

1145
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: Press Taylor honest to God, know nothing about him, so

1146
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: I guess to gives Cincinnati a chance because they've had

1147
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: a defensive head coach for what last fifteen years. But

1148
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: appreciate everyone listening, and uh, see you next week. It.

1149
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: Enjoy the games this weekend again. I like Dallas, I

1150
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs, like the Chargers. I don't like betting

1151
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: against Nick Foles, but I'm going Saints. Enjoy the weekend,

1152
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: Enjoy the games. See you next week.