1
00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:07,520
Speaker 1: Alz Media America. Is Trump strong?

2
00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,680
Speaker 2: Okay, it is so funny.

3
00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,039
Speaker 3: Welcome to it could happen here a podcast recorded from

4
00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:18,160
Speaker 3: the Republican National Convention, specifically the hotel where the Idaho

5
00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,040
Speaker 3: and North Dakota delegates are gathered. Yeah, fascinating elevator rides.

6
00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,119
Speaker 2: And we're thinking today about the memory of that guy

7
00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,240
Speaker 2: that Trump does not know the name of who got

8
00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:33,160
Speaker 2: shot to death, Corey k. They've definitely pronounced every time

9
00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,040
Speaker 2: they've said it wrong.

10
00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,960
Speaker 1: Every single person who spoke the last few days pronounced

11
00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,800
Speaker 1: his name differently, And I was like, well, finally they

12
00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,920
Speaker 1: have somebody's name to pronounce more incorrectly than they do

13
00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,919
Speaker 1: Kabla Harris or Ramaswami.

14
00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,800
Speaker 2: And it's look, folks, I'm not gonna laugh at his kids.

15
00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,680
Speaker 2: You know, that's a tragedy for them. But what I

16
00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,920
Speaker 2: will say is that objectively, it's really funny that this

17
00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:01,160
Speaker 2: guy died for Donald Trump. And Trump very obviously doesn't care, couldn't,

18
00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,280
Speaker 2: could not be less important to him, Like there is

19
00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,840
Speaker 2: nothing that matters less in this election the man who

20
00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,520
Speaker 2: took a bullet for him, And that's really funny. That's

21
00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,360
Speaker 2: really funny.

22
00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,400
Speaker 1: Anyways, Uh, this is it could happen here. I'm Sophie Licht,

23
00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,720
Speaker 1: but we're, like Gara said at the R and C.

24
00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,320
Speaker 1: I have Garrisaid Davis with me and Robert Evans.

25
00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,479
Speaker 2: Uh huh, very professional, Sophie, Thank you so much.

26
00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,160
Speaker 1: I am your boss. Do you want to tell me

27
00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,119
Speaker 1: a little bit about this morning?

28
00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,720
Speaker 3: Well, I think first's talk about some of our late

29
00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:28,800
Speaker 3: night escapades.

30
00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,560
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

31
00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,920
Speaker 2: Time travel cigar Bar.

32
00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,119
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, I did not go with you to that event,

33
00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:38,120
Speaker 1: so I go call.

34
00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:39,640
Speaker 3: I agree, that was a good call.

35
00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,000
Speaker 2: I counted on the main floor of the cigar Bar

36
00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,320
Speaker 2: where the Young Republicans had their party, and six of

37
00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,520
Speaker 2: forty people had cigars. I had a cigar you did

38
00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,360
Speaker 2: you had acause I brought a selection of my finest Cubans.

39
00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

40
00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,560
Speaker 1: That was very, very kind of you, Robert.

41
00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,920
Speaker 2: I had one of John F. Kennedy's favorite cigars that

42
00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,120
Speaker 2: I had been aging for two years waiting for this moment.

43
00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,400
Speaker 3: I did like that you had the foresight to bring

44
00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,680
Speaker 3: cigars to the art, to.

45
00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,360
Speaker 2: Bring extremely high quality. Our buddy Lenny had a three

46
00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,960
Speaker 2: year aged partias you had. But I've been drinking and

47
00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,600
Speaker 2: I had a lovely have you been quality the best

48
00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,000
Speaker 2: cigars there. I talked to everyone who happened to be

49
00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,679
Speaker 2: smoking a cigar, and they were all smoking trash like

50
00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,200
Speaker 2: a rowin and American garbage, because none of them had

51
00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,919
Speaker 2: any kind of look. I don't get into this often.

52
00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to be like some of our friends

53
00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,760
Speaker 2: in the in the far right and and use cigars

54
00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,480
Speaker 2: as a totem. I enjoyed my cigars privately, but we

55
00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,840
Speaker 2: were going to a cigar bar, so I brought my

56
00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,720
Speaker 2: nice cigars and oh was it a cigar bar?

57
00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,520
Speaker 1: Were there cigars there? You're just at the word cigars seven.

58
00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,639
Speaker 2: It was not lost on me that none of them

59
00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,640
Speaker 2: smoked good cigars because they're children, are you know what?

60
00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,120
Speaker 2: We had an interview with Rudy Giuliani, and Rudy would

61
00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,720
Speaker 2: have understood that man has nice cigars. I'll say that

62
00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,600
Speaker 2: about Rudy Giuliani. He knows the cigars, That's all I'm saying.

63
00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:57,919
Speaker 1: Great.

64
00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,480
Speaker 3: So we've been trying to hit the kind of the

65
00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,560
Speaker 3: after part already seen at the RNC, just to see

66
00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,359
Speaker 3: kind of what's up. This little cigar party was put

67
00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,880
Speaker 3: on by some of the young Republicans from.

68
00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,920
Speaker 2: New York primarily in New York. They are very confident

69
00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,400
Speaker 2: of a victory, potentially a statewide victory in a national election.

70
00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,839
Speaker 2: And uh, you know what, the evidence doesn't make it impossible.

71
00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,920
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like it's going to happen from this cycle.

72
00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,040
Speaker 2: But twenty twenty eight, New York could be in play.

73
00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,359
Speaker 2: And one of the interesting things is that Florida also

74
00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,320
Speaker 2: seems to be tightening. Two poles recently show Trump just

75
00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,600
Speaker 2: four points ahead of Biden. He won by ten in

76
00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. That's a significant tightening and within kind of

77
00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,360
Speaker 2: swing state margins, And so it is kind of interesting

78
00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,320
Speaker 2: to conceive of the possibility that by twenty twenty eight,

79
00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,640
Speaker 2: both New York and Florida could be in play.

80
00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I dressed like a nineteen fifties FBI agent

81
00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,320
Speaker 3: and trench coat and smoke well done one of these

82
00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,040
Speaker 3: cigars as best as I could.

83
00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:52,920
Speaker 2: How'd you like it?

84
00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:53,560
Speaker 3: It was fine.

85
00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,960
Speaker 2: It was a nice cigar. It's no clove, good way, God,

86
00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,880
Speaker 2: oh my fucking so, give me a gun.

87
00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,400
Speaker 3: It was it was. It was a nice little party.

88
00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,040
Speaker 3: We talked, We talked to some people. The best thing

89
00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,280
Speaker 3: about the party, though, is that there was a series

90
00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,920
Speaker 3: of speeches put on by these guys from New York

91
00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,040
Speaker 3: that kind of just kept going on. And the longer

92
00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,880
Speaker 3: that these speeches and like these fre diferent guys kept

93
00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,640
Speaker 3: going on, the music on the roof started to get

94
00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,880
Speaker 3: slowly louder and louder and louder, until it was completely

95
00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,480
Speaker 3: draining out the speeches, until they just stopped because like, okay,

96
00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,840
Speaker 3: the music's too loud now.

97
00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,360
Speaker 2: Now and again there are heroes.

98
00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,480
Speaker 3: So someone was on that dial just every every two

99
00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,960
Speaker 3: minutes it up a little bit.

100
00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,839
Speaker 2: There's a guy I follow who has started who followed

101
00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,320
Speaker 2: me back in twenty twenty, who was like an election

102
00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,560
Speaker 2: poll analysis expert and was like, and it's not a

103
00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,479
Speaker 2: political guy, but was like, look, if you show up

104
00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,000
Speaker 2: at a convention after party to talk, fuck you like

105
00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,599
Speaker 2: people are there to drink, all you should say is

106
00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,919
Speaker 2: the bar is open. And I agreed with that, and

107
00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,760
Speaker 2: then you know what to skip. We had credit to

108
00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,800
Speaker 2: the Heritage Foundation. Nobody ever said anything but that we

109
00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:04,960
Speaker 2: could drink all we wanted.

110
00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,760
Speaker 3: That is a Heritage Foundation party, that is right, which

111
00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,040
Speaker 3: we will get to later. We were up way too late,

112
00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,680
Speaker 3: way too late at some of these after parties. The

113
00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,840
Speaker 3: other night and then we had to get up pretty

114
00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,960
Speaker 3: early in the morning because we had an interview with

115
00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,440
Speaker 3: the CEO of the Texas Public Policy Foundation, which is

116
00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,760
Speaker 3: kind of like a mini version the Heritage Foundation, but

117
00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,120
Speaker 3: just for Texas. Yeah, the former guy who ran this

118
00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,640
Speaker 3: now runs the Heritage Foundation itself, so it's kind of

119
00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,200
Speaker 3: like a little bit of a training ground and they

120
00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,000
Speaker 3: kind of swap members often. We had a pretty long

121
00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,599
Speaker 3: interview that we will turn into some kind of future

122
00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,480
Speaker 3: piece of content, discussing everything from woke ideology to the

123
00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,800
Speaker 3: mortal rot infecting America to.

124
00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,880
Speaker 2: Why mass shootings happened in this country.

125
00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he was. He was very polished, very media trained.

126
00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,400
Speaker 2: He easily the best interview subject in terms of his

127
00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,200
Speaker 2: like skill liet talking, yeah, that we've had.

128
00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,880
Speaker 3: And similarly, I don't think he was quite prepared for

129
00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,039
Speaker 3: our line of questioning either, you know, so that he

130
00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,760
Speaker 3: got taken it back a little bit by some of

131
00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,240
Speaker 3: the questions we were lobbing him. Probably very different from

132
00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,840
Speaker 3: the rest of the interviews that he's been doing. I'm

133
00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,400
Speaker 3: trying to think if there's any anything specifically about that

134
00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,719
Speaker 3: interview that's worth mentioning. Now, you know, what really.

135
00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,320
Speaker 2: Interests me because the shooting is so relevant, I will

136
00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,040
Speaker 2: bring up the shooting. We talked about why the guy

137
00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,800
Speaker 2: who tried to kill Trump had done it, and he

138
00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,240
Speaker 2: and I were kind of the same mind, the same

139
00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,080
Speaker 2: mind that you are, Garrison, which is that this was

140
00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,760
Speaker 2: a school shooter type thing and that was the primary

141
00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,200
Speaker 2: reason behind the ideology. And this is before now some

142
00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,479
Speaker 2: stuff has come out since that has made that seem

143
00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,360
Speaker 2: even more likely. But it was interesting to like, kind

144
00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,080
Speaker 2: of have that not be a controversial part of the conversation.

145
00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,360
Speaker 2: This was not a radical left shooting. There was no

146
00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,400
Speaker 2: sort of attempt by him to claim it as that.

147
00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,839
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, this seems like a guy. We

148
00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,880
Speaker 2: have a deep sickness in this country, and we clearly

149
00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,839
Speaker 2: disagreed with him about the specifics of where the sickness

150
00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,720
Speaker 2: comes from. But the sickness leads to some people who

151
00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,200
Speaker 2: just want to do mass shootings that are not political.

152
00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,080
Speaker 2: And uh, that was interesting to me.

153
00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,880
Speaker 3: No, And and one of the big things talked about

154
00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,120
Speaker 3: in terms of this moral rot is that there is

155
00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,200
Speaker 3: something lacking in our country, specifically with young men. There's

156
00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,280
Speaker 3: there is there is this lack of purpose among the

157
00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,600
Speaker 3: young men which makes them do these kind of violent acts.

158
00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that, sure, and I think I

159
00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,320
Speaker 2: think I disagree with.

160
00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,880
Speaker 3: His solutions and some and some some of his diagnosis

161
00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,720
Speaker 3: in certain ways, right because he he'll attribute that lack

162
00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,480
Speaker 3: to certain things that we might.

163
00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,800
Speaker 2: Not morality at the home, and sure, you.

164
00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,320
Speaker 3: Know, all these all those kind of things, but you know,

165
00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,480
Speaker 3: that was that that was kind of his his take,

166
00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,400
Speaker 3: you know. And then we also talk about everything from

167
00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,520
Speaker 3: like the influence of billionaires on these right wing think

168
00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,120
Speaker 3: tanks and political candidates, Catholics versus Evangelicals. It was an

169
00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,160
Speaker 3: interesting conversation that I'm sure you'll hear in becoming weeks

170
00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,840
Speaker 3: and we'll kind of explain why we want you to

171
00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,640
Speaker 3: hear from this guy who's, you know, typically probably pretty

172
00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,520
Speaker 3: adversarial to the type of stuff that we talk about

173
00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,000
Speaker 3: on this show. But after this interview, I met up

174
00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,760
Speaker 3: with Sophie lichterman Hey and we talked to the people

175
00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,440
Speaker 3: at the actual Heritage Foundation booth who had many a

176
00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,800
Speaker 3: pamphlet and I collected all of the gender ideology pamphlets,

177
00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,320
Speaker 3: which will also be a future deep dive. Kind of Curiously,

178
00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,760
Speaker 3: they did not have a single pamphlet about Project twenty

179
00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,960
Speaker 3: twenty five. Nope, No, And they didn't like talking about

180
00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,800
Speaker 3: it either. They said that Project twenty twenty five is,

181
00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,800
Speaker 3: you know, a coalition effort between both Heritage and all

182
00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,160
Speaker 3: these other groups, but they're not really talking about it

183
00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,480
Speaker 3: here today because it's not Trump's policy platform. Trump has

184
00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,560
Speaker 3: his own policy platform. This is just a list of

185
00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,679
Speaker 3: policy suggestions for lawmakers once they get into office. So

186
00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,040
Speaker 3: they like to talk about a whole bunch of other stuff,

187
00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,440
Speaker 3: you know, certain things that are kind of a part

188
00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,920
Speaker 3: of Project twenty twenty five, but nothing about the actual

189
00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,040
Speaker 3: you know, document itself, partially due to the kind of

190
00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,360
Speaker 3: negative backlash that it has received, and you know, it

191
00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,400
Speaker 3: seems to be kind of widely unliked for various reasons.

192
00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,200
Speaker 3: So I think it was interesting that they weren't even

193
00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:00,960
Speaker 3: pushing it at an event like this.

194
00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,400
Speaker 2: You know, again with the Texas Policy Foundation, gut we

195
00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,680
Speaker 2: talked about when we brought it up. He was pretty

196
00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,360
Speaker 2: open about the fact that it's not popular. Yeah, and

197
00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,440
Speaker 2: his attitude was that in the future, once we win,

198
00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,880
Speaker 2: we can try and build consensus around it. But he

199
00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,600
Speaker 2: didn't try to deny the fact that, like, it's widely

200
00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,959
Speaker 2: disliked by the electorate.

201
00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,520
Speaker 3: And it is against a lot of things that are

202
00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,480
Speaker 3: on the Republican policy platform for the actual party. Sophie,

203
00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,559
Speaker 3: you had a wonderful conversation with some of they's heritage folks.

204
00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,600
Speaker 1: Let's just say that my very blonde hair and the

205
00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,280
Speaker 1: pig tills that I or most of this week made

206
00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,400
Speaker 1: it very easy for these folks to talk to me,

207
00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,240
Speaker 1: which is unsettling.

208
00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,160
Speaker 3: A little bit frightening, but useful.

209
00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,920
Speaker 2: But very very very scary.

210
00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

211
00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,920
Speaker 1: A question I've been asking a lot of the folks

212
00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,720
Speaker 1: that I've talked to this week is mostly about their

213
00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,599
Speaker 1: opinions about education. And you know, if there is a

214
00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,839
Speaker 1: shift in power with Trump being elected in a v

215
00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,720
Speaker 1: what exactly they would want to do. And the overall

216
00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,920
Speaker 1: majority answer from these groups is that they want to

217
00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,520
Speaker 1: take away power from the federal government and bring it

218
00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,880
Speaker 1: to the states, and that would be universal school choice.

219
00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,000
Speaker 1: And so got a little bit of that from them.

220
00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,840
Speaker 1: They also mentioned something about one of the biggest roadblocks

221
00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,120
Speaker 1: being student loans.

222
00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,359
Speaker 3: While also being very against student learned for forgiveness specifically,

223
00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,040
Speaker 3: So it's kind of a it was an interesting position.

224
00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,800
Speaker 3: I'll want to read some more of their pamphlets on.

225
00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,679
Speaker 1: That but anyways that just talks with them more, got

226
00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,320
Speaker 1: more of their pamphlets, and Garrison and I asked them

227
00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,480
Speaker 1: about the states that they choose to operate in.

228
00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,080
Speaker 3: And specifically for their lobbying group as opposed to just

229
00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,360
Speaker 3: like the think tank, they have this other thing I

230
00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,000
Speaker 3: think called Heritage Action, which operates differently because of certain

231
00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,160
Speaker 3: laws around lobbying.

232
00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,760
Speaker 2: It's kind of where they try to train a lot

233
00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,920
Speaker 2: of new people up. They had a lot of advertisements

234
00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,440
Speaker 2: that they did something like fifteen.

235
00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,600
Speaker 3: More on the ground activism type stuff.

236
00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,920
Speaker 1: And Garret, what was the answer they gave? I thought

237
00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,959
Speaker 1: it was interesting you asked a question for why they

238
00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,120
Speaker 1: didn't go in certain states.

239
00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,800
Speaker 3: Yes, so they had this map of what states they

240
00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,840
Speaker 3: were active in, and there were certain states, you know,

241
00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,280
Speaker 3: like Oregon, Washington, or whole bunch of the New England states,

242
00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,000
Speaker 3: and they just weren't active in because they didn't think

243
00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,280
Speaker 3: they would be very effective. They weren't make any leeway.

244
00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,560
Speaker 3: It's just it's just not worth it. It's not going

245
00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,200
Speaker 3: to move towards actual electoral victories. But there was other

246
00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,760
Speaker 3: there's other states like Wyoming and a few others that

247
00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,160
Speaker 3: they weren't active in for different reasons because of specific

248
00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,880
Speaker 3: regulations regarding donor transparency that they were strongly against the

249
00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,760
Speaker 3: states that require there to be transparency for people who

250
00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,480
Speaker 3: donate to these kind of political groups, and in protest

251
00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,719
Speaker 3: of those regulations and laws, they are completely inactive in

252
00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,880
Speaker 3: those states, which is a funny way of saying, we

253
00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,679
Speaker 3: just want to hide whoever gives us money. And that

254
00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,280
Speaker 3: is that was a little interesting piece of information regarding

255
00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,959
Speaker 3: you know, there's just states they just don't operate and

256
00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,640
Speaker 3: because they do not want to see or have it

257
00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,400
Speaker 3: made public where their kind of money is coming in

258
00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,640
Speaker 3: and out of, at least for the Heritage Action part

259
00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,280
Speaker 3: of the group.

260
00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:10,400
Speaker 1: Yes, it was overall just interesting that there was you know,

261
00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,959
Speaker 1: at this booth, there was about five different I would say,

262
00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:14,839
Speaker 1: twenty something.

263
00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,280
Speaker 3: Women, twenty something died blonde to women.

264
00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:22,840
Speaker 1: Yes, And they invited me to their Heritage social party

265
00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,480
Speaker 1: that they were having that was across from the main

266
00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,360
Speaker 1: convention where you needed an access code to get in,

267
00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,400
Speaker 1: and they gave you that flyer and.

268
00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,520
Speaker 3: You will hear all about that. We took advantage of that.

269
00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,520
Speaker 3: At the end of the episode. You will get a

270
00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:42,400
Speaker 3: special inside look at the Heritage Foundation's private invite only exclusive.

271
00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,599
Speaker 2: Part was off the record. Now does it count? No,

272
00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,880
Speaker 2: of course not. I promised that lady that what she

273
00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,040
Speaker 2: said to me was off the record, and I won't

274
00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,040
Speaker 2: say any more about that. But I didn't promise that

275
00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:52,760
Speaker 2: to anyone else.

276
00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,200
Speaker 3: Do you know what's on the record, Robert, what you

277
00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,040
Speaker 3: said later?

278
00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,400
Speaker 1: These products and service, the products and services that support

279
00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,000
Speaker 1: this podcast.

280
00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,679
Speaker 2: That also that also is off the record. On the record. Whatever,

281
00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:04,560
Speaker 2: here's the ads.

282
00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,200
Speaker 3: We are back, and don't worry. You will hear about

283
00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,920
Speaker 3: this special Heritage Foundation party in a sect. But first

284
00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,960
Speaker 3: I want to play for you a whole interview that

285
00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,080
Speaker 3: I collected. Just down the hall from the Heritage Foundation booth,

286
00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,360
Speaker 3: the American Conservation Coalition had at a pretty large section

287
00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,720
Speaker 3: of the RNC convention fest you know, list of vendors,

288
00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,600
Speaker 3: kind of more typical like you know, convention type stuff.

289
00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,240
Speaker 3: You know, like if you go to like a comic

290
00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,760
Speaker 3: on or something, it's a lot of like vendors and

291
00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,920
Speaker 3: booths that this kind of section of the r and C.

292
00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,480
Speaker 3: So they had this pretty big booth and it was

293
00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,439
Speaker 3: the only time I've ever seen anything mentioned about climate change.

294
00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,280
Speaker 3: So I was interested to see what conservatives talking about

295
00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,360
Speaker 3: climate change sound like what they're saying, and I'll just

296
00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,120
Speaker 3: play that interview here right now. Do you want introducing

297
00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,880
Speaker 3: yourself in the organization you're with. Sure.

298
00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,360
Speaker 4: My name's Carl Matthews.

299
00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,880
Speaker 5: I'm the vice president of Communications at the American Conservation Coalition,

300
00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,480
Speaker 5: which is the largest conservative grassroots environmental organization in the country.

301
00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,640
Speaker 3: So the few things that interests me about your group,

302
00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,320
Speaker 3: I mean, especially if you look back in the last

303
00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,120
Speaker 3: one hundred years, like environmental conservation has been historically a

304
00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,840
Speaker 3: much more conservative standpoint. You can look at like presidents

305
00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,720
Speaker 3: in the nineteen twenties, there was a huge push for that,

306
00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,920
Speaker 3: and somewhere along the lines that's kind of been lost

307
00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,240
Speaker 3: for like a number of reasons. I guess what is

308
00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,960
Speaker 3: your main mission here with this organization?

309
00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it's interesting you bring up kind of the

310
00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,840
Speaker 5: history of conservative conservation because we have a timeline here

311
00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,680
Speaker 5: at the RNC showing all the Republican presidents who have

312
00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,920
Speaker 5: really engaged on this issue, from Ulysses Grant to Teddy

313
00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,640
Speaker 5: Roosevelt to more modern presidents like Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan

314
00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,120
Speaker 5: and even HW Bush. So what we're really doing here

315
00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,080
Speaker 5: with the American Conservation Coalition is building the conservative environmental movement,

316
00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,720
Speaker 5: specifically among young Americans who frankly feel kind of disenfranchised

317
00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,400
Speaker 5: by both parties on the issue of climate and the environment.

318
00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,200
Speaker 5: The left has taken a really doom and gloom approach

319
00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,880
Speaker 5: to these issues that isn't very inspiring for a lot

320
00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,520
Speaker 5: of young folks, and in the last thirty years, conservatives haven't.

321
00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,920
Speaker 4: Engaged very productively.

322
00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,320
Speaker 5: So we're here showing that conservation is conservative, those values

323
00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,240
Speaker 5: are inherently entwined, and it's okay to call for action

324
00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,760
Speaker 5: on environmental issues like climate change.

325
00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,840
Speaker 3: I guess. Yeah. Let's start more on like the big topic,

326
00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,560
Speaker 3: which is which is climate change, and we can get

327
00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,320
Speaker 3: into like local conservation. What is your take on the

328
00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,720
Speaker 3: current climate scenario, because like ever since, ever since the

329
00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,240
Speaker 3: early two thousands, there's been this, you know, for a

330
00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,120
Speaker 3: lot of young people, slightly worrying trend of you have

331
00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,840
Speaker 3: the politicians just either either seriously downgrading, you know, the

332
00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,440
Speaker 3: scale of this problem or just thinking there is no problem.

333
00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,360
Speaker 3: What is your take both on I guess on that part,

334
00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,680
Speaker 3: and then how you see the climate you know crisis,

335
00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,240
Speaker 3: the climate issue that we are dealing with. Where do

336
00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:58,840
Speaker 3: you see it? Heaving?

337
00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, so was founded because conservatives weren't engaging on this issue.

338
00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,760
Speaker 5: So for the last six seven years we've been really

339
00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,600
Speaker 5: pushing conservatives, especially conservative elected leaders, to re engage in

340
00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,200
Speaker 5: a productive way. And I think we've done that really effectively.

341
00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,840
Speaker 5: In DC where I live, the Conservative Climate Caucus in

342
00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,680
Speaker 5: the House, which is a group of Republican lawmakers interested

343
00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,000
Speaker 5: in tackling the issue of climate change, has eighty seven members.

344
00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,960
Speaker 5: It's the fourth largest in the Republican conference. So we're

345
00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,440
Speaker 5: seeing a big kind of shift in the Overton window there.

346
00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,640
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think young people want elected leaders who

347
00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,280
Speaker 5: recognize that we have an issue, recognize that we have

348
00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,680
Speaker 5: a challenge in climate change, and want practical solutions like

349
00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,760
Speaker 5: expanding clean, reliable nuclear energy, like pursuing permitting reform to

350
00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,000
Speaker 5: actually allow American energy projects to be built. So I

351
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,400
Speaker 5: think we take a really kind of level headed, rational

352
00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,920
Speaker 5: approach to these issues that really resonates with young people.

353
00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,200
Speaker 3: What's the main difference in how you view the climate

354
00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,000
Speaker 3: issue as opposed to someone like AOC right or like

355
00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,160
Speaker 3: these these more like progressive democrats of view, this is

356
00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,280
Speaker 3: a very existential crisis. You have to get fossil fuels

357
00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,760
Speaker 3: under control. These kind of timelines that we hear, you know,

358
00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,240
Speaker 3: by twenty fifty, by twenty seventy, by even like something

359
00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,040
Speaker 3: like twenty thirty, Right, how it becomes like a cascading problem.

360
00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,119
Speaker 3: How differently do you view the current situation than you know,

361
00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,800
Speaker 3: these progressive Democrats.

362
00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,400
Speaker 5: Sure, like I said, climate change is a challenge. It's

363
00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,080
Speaker 5: certainly something that we need to tackle, but we don't

364
00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,160
Speaker 5: view it through kind of this doom and gloom lens

365
00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,160
Speaker 5: where we're going to die in twelve, ten, five years,

366
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,320
Speaker 5: whatever the current timeline is on the left. But we

367
00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,959
Speaker 5: do see a need for all of the above energy.

368
00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,639
Speaker 5: So we recognize that energy demand is continuing to expand,

369
00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,159
Speaker 5: but we also need to protect our environment. So we

370
00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,120
Speaker 5: need to kind of consider that trilemma reliable, affordable, and

371
00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,280
Speaker 5: clean when we're looking at our energy portfolio in the future.

372
00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,600
Speaker 5: And I think that's what really kind of distinguishes us

373
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,439
Speaker 5: from the left in that we're not calling for a

374
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:51,720
Speaker 5: divestment of fossil fuels.

375
00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,480
Speaker 4: We're calling for a.

376
00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,520
Speaker 5: Rational, level headed energy strategy that will lower emissions. But

377
00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,520
Speaker 5: in kind of a more realistic way.

378
00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,160
Speaker 3: Do you think that time land's gonna be more stretched out?

379
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,560
Speaker 3: Because I mean, if if you look at you know,

380
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,159
Speaker 3: the way current current levels are heading. As soon as

381
00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,600
Speaker 3: we hit like two point five degrees, not just that change,

382
00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,720
Speaker 3: but the level of cascading environmental effects, right, one thing changes.

383
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,760
Speaker 3: Now everything gets worse because when stuff melts, then it

384
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,200
Speaker 3: changes the way like thermal regulation of the whole planet works,

385
00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:19,879
Speaker 3: and then it becomes this kind of cascating problem. And

386
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,320
Speaker 3: I feel like we're trying to get out in front

387
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,800
Speaker 3: of it before it happens that every day that kind

388
00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,200
Speaker 3: of feels less and less likely, at least for a

389
00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,080
Speaker 3: lot of people like my age, and it can be

390
00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,919
Speaker 3: a very doom and gloom scenario because you feel like

391
00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,119
Speaker 3: no one's taking this problem seriously. Even Joe Biden's climate

392
00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,800
Speaker 3: policy is very inadequate according to like a lot of

393
00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,720
Speaker 3: a lot of the people that I talk to. I

394
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,479
Speaker 3: guess seel like, how do you view like the scale

395
00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,720
Speaker 3: of this problem right now?

396
00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, climate change is the kind of environmental challenge of

397
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,360
Speaker 5: our time, right it should be what you know we're

398
00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,160
Speaker 5: thinking about and focusing on when it comes to environmental policy.

399
00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,520
Speaker 5: But I really think we need to kind of take

400
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,000
Speaker 5: a step back, and that kind of push for urgency

401
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,880
Speaker 5: hasn't gotten us anywhere to your point. You know, Joe

402
00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,760
Speaker 5: Biden is kind of branding himself as the Climate President.

403
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,080
Speaker 5: You know a lot of young people are unhappy with

404
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,399
Speaker 5: the platform that he's put forwards. So I think when

405
00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,199
Speaker 5: you're talking about the timeline, we're talking about what we

406
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,919
Speaker 5: can do right now to kind of unleash American energy,

407
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,520
Speaker 5: to reduce American emissions, but also global emissions.

408
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 4: And really think of this on a global scale.

409
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 5: So that urgency piece isn't quite you know, realistic, or

410
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 5: isn't quite what we want to focus on because I

411
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 5: don't think it.

412
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 4: Leads to action.

413
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 3: There's kind of two trains of thought in terms of

414
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,680
Speaker 3: like climate policy stuff. There's taking like adaptation roots, right,

415
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,639
Speaker 3: trying to adapt to a changing environment that we're going

416
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,640
Speaker 3: to have to face it it's going to happen, versus mitigation.

417
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 5: Right.

418
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,359
Speaker 3: For a while, we were trying to find ways to

419
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,000
Speaker 3: mitigate the problem to kind of get ahead of it, right,

420
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 3: and that is feeling less and less likely, and we

421
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,399
Speaker 3: are seeing more of these adaptive strategies getting adopted.

422
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:47,640
Speaker 5: Right.

423
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,639
Speaker 3: There's everything from like you know, people are trying to

424
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 3: develop better carbon capture, which has its own problems as

425
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 3: a technology. And you know, everything from like geoengineering even

426
00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 3: to like solar blockage. There's a lot of things people

427
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 3: are thinking, like, if we don't get like emissions under control,

428
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to go to similar more of as

429
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 3: extreme measures. How much of your focus is on adapt

430
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 3: developments versus just mitigation, Well, we definitely need both.

431
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker 5: To your point, we have to adapt to a change

432
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 5: in climate, but we also need to be reducing emissions

433
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 5: to kind of prevent future effects. So I think we

434
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 5: kind of set a balance between adaptation and mitigation, and frankly,

435
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 5: I think sometimes they can be really kind of connected

436
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 5: and entwined. So something we focus on, for instance, is

437
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 5: regenerative agriculture, which lowers emissions associated with agriculture but also

438
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 5: helps the land kind of adjust to a change in climate,

439
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 5: keeps the soil healthy, things like that. So I really

440
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 5: think when we're talking about climate we can talk about

441
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 5: adaptation and mitigation kind of at the same time.

442
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 3: How do you try to do outreach to a vast

443
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 3: number of Republicans conservatives who simply don't think this is

444
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 3: a problem, who like just deny this as a problem.

445
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 3: I think this is like a scam in some way.

446
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 3: How do you try to tackle that as coming from

447
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 3: a like an also conservative position.

448
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

449
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 5: So, I mean we're here at the Republican National Convention,

450
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 5: and it's been really interesting talking to a lot of

451
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 5: folks from diverse backgrounds about the issue of climate and

452
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 5: also environmental conservation.

453
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 4: I really do think it matters how you start the conversation.

454
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 5: We talked earlier about kind of our timeline of the

455
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 5: legacy of conservative environmentalism. Starting there and talking about how

456
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 5: we can carry on that legacy and how we can

457
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 5: tackle kind of this environmental issue of our time has

458
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 5: been really effective and we've gotten a lot of positive reception.

459
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 5: You know, there's always going to be disagreement, there's always

460
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 5: going to be detractors, but I do think that there's

461
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 5: more and more of kind of that acceptance that we

462
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 5: need to take care of our own backyard, and that includes,

463
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 5: you know, tackling climate change.

464
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: How much stuff do you end up having to you know,

465
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 3: talk about our not necessarily focused on at least talk

466
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 3: about like actual fossil fuel emissions, for racking, these types

467
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 3: of things that are like mainstays of politics because of

468
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 3: how much money goes into them, but undeniably are a

469
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 3: massive contributing factor, and we do need to move to

470
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 3: probably some more nuclear options to forgive the expression, I guess,

471
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 3: and you know as well as like a like a

472
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 3: solar hydro, which are you know, less good than nuclear

473
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,719
Speaker 3: on like a large scale. But like you know, especially

474
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 3: for the for the Republican Party, trying to trying to

475
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 3: point out certain things about how we will have to

476
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 3: scale back some degree of fossil fuels, if not you know,

477
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 3: a majority of it in the next twenty five years,

478
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 3: if we want to, if we want to not have

479
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 3: like a pretty bad scenario at least for not even

480
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 3: just for humans, but for like animals in other parts

481
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 3: of the environment.

482
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think that goes back to the all

483
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 5: of the above energy approach and really diversifying our energy portfolio,

484
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 5: which frankly is not only good for the environment, but

485
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 5: good for energy security. We've seen you know, hacking of

486
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 5: pipelines or other kind of cyber energy attacks. So by

487
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 5: diversifying sources, we're really setting ourselves up to have a

488
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 5: more secure energy grid. So I think there's other ways

489
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 5: that you can talk about you know, environmental actions, climate

490
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 5: actions that have co benefits, and we can talk about

491
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 5: that in a really productive way with Republicans.

492
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 3: Do you also focus on like local ecology efforts, like

493
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 3: you know, like some of the more like Roosevelt style

494
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 3: a conservation is that thing that you also kind of

495
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 3: try to like advocate for. Also, it's like an on

496
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 3: ramch talk about these like broader climate issues.

497
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

498
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 5: I love that framing that you used as kind of

499
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 5: the entry point to climate issues. We have fifty thousand

500
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 5: young members across the country in about one hundred branches,

501
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 5: either on college campuses or in young professional communities, and

502
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 5: they go out and they plant trees in their communities,

503
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 5: They do park cleanups, they clean up a waterway, They

504
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 5: have educational speakers to learn more about these issues.

505
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 4: And we found that that's really really.

506
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 5: Effective in building this conservative environmental movement and showing that

507
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 5: these values are connected, they're compatible, and then that can

508
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 5: lead to advocacy on the national level for things like

509
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 5: we talked about nuclear energy or other clean energy sources.

510
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 4: So that's been really effective for us.

511
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: What would you like to see as a conservative climate

512
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 3: policy in like ten years, Like what would you hope

513
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: gets adopted to help curtail like you know, these more

514
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: catastrophic scenarios.

515
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 4: Great question, and I would hope it perhaps a little

516
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: bit earlier than ten.

517
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: Years absolutely, but I'm just based on how things have gone.

518
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 4: Sure, So we have kind of a big three that

519
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 4: we're focused on right now.

520
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 5: Permitting reforms, so getting the government out of its own way, frankly,

521
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 5: to fight climate change, and unleash American energy in the

522
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 5: form of clean energy, nuclear, solar, wind, geothermal, hydropower, and

523
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 5: really kind of expand what we can build in this country. Again,

524
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 5: nuclear energy is really one of the focuses for us

525
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 5: because it's a baseload energy source that can run twenty

526
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 5: four to seven, it's clean, and it's really secure. So

527
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 5: we're really focused on nuclear. And then the last thing

528
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 5: is American energy dominance. Here in the United States, we

529
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 5: produce energy safer, cleaner, and more efficiently, and we really

530
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 5: want to be a leader on the world stage when

531
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 5: it comes to energy.

532
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 3: I think that there is a lot of people, both

533
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: like you know, progressive Democrats who really care about this issue,

534
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 3: as well as you know a lot of Republicans and

535
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: liberals who have a lot of skepticism about nuclear energy.

536
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 3: Right for some good reasons. There have been some unfortunate

537
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: events that have happened, and I know like fission and

538
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: fusion have been slowly getting better where I feel like

539
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: we're close to some kind of breakthrough, but we do

540
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: have like kind of a limited time. How do you

541
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: approach kind of talking to people who have a level

542
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 3: of risk in terms of nuclear energy and like the

543
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 3: possible dangers that it's had based on a few accidents,

544
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: even though a lot of a lot of these plants

545
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 3: are relatively safe.

546
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love this question.

547
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 5: I grew up an hour south of Three Mile Island

548
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 5: in Pennsylvania, so I have a lot of experience with

549
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 5: nuclear skepticism. Look, I mean nuclear energy is the safest

550
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 5: and cleanest form that we have in our back pocket. Yes,

551
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 5: there have been some unfortunate incidents, frankly they're human error,

552
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 5: and we understand nuclear power a lot better now. We

553
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 5: have more safeguards in place since incidents like Chernobyl or

554
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 5: Three Mile Island, and we haven't seen a nuclear meltdown

555
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 5: that we were promised in the Simpsons or the China

556
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 5: syndrome or something like that. The fact is nuclear quote

557
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 5: waste is really nuclear spent fuel, and we can recycle

558
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 5: that and keep producing clean nuclear power. We have incredibly

559
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 5: well trained nuclear experts at all of our power plants

560
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 5: across the United States and they produce clean, reliable energy

561
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 5: for consumers all over the country. So we really need

562
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 5: to kind of get over those messaging hurdles with nuclear

563
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 5: and expand the industry here.

564
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: What do you think will happen if your concerns go unheard?

565
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: Like if this just doesn't this just does doesn't work.

566
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of continue at the scale and

567
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: like a timeline they have been. What worries do you have?

568
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really existential question.

569
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think we're in the seven years

570
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 5: since we've been founded, we're working really hard to build

571
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 5: coalitions with a lot of different stakes and be heard

572
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 5: by a lot of different folks in power, and frankly,

573
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 5: I'm hopeful that we will you know, pursue solutions to

574
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 5: climate change. That we will you know, for lack of

575
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 5: a better term, get our act together and pursue these solutions.

576
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 5: And really, I think the biggest thing that I like

577
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 5: to focus on when it comes to climate advocacy is

578
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 5: optimism and this idea that you know, the planet is

579
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 5: our one common denominator and we can unite around that

580
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 5: and you know, already in Congress, we've seen bipartisan legislation

581
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 5: in a really polarizing time that focuses on climate.

582
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 4: Probably the last big package.

583
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 5: In the one hundred and eighteenth Congress was a nuclear

584
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 5: package to unleash next generation nuclears. So, I know, I'm

585
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 5: not exactly answering your question, but I am extremely optimistic

586
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 5: about the future.

587
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: Do you think there's a path towards some kind of

588
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 3: bipartisan advocacy not just in like the Senate, but also

589
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: like in terms of like environmental movements and like protests.

590
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: And obviously there's certain people who employ very theatrical tactics

591
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 3: that maybe don't correlate to much improved means, But do

592
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: you see there's a possibility of, like you know, a

593
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: larger public call for action on this issue? I mean mean,

594
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 3: something that we've covered on our show a while ago

595
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 3: is like will it take something like a general strike

596
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: to even like get people to like realize like we

597
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: need this to be done? Like not necessarily that option,

598
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: but like do you see like a route towards more

599
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: of bipartisan activism and advocacy of this issue.

600
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question. We do a lot of

601
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 5: bridge building work. I was actually in Los Angeles earlier

602
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: this year with a group of conservative climate advocates and

603
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 5: progressive climate advocates and we talked about solutions where there's

604
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 5: common ground, and then we finished the day by doing

605
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 5: a beach clean up together. So I really do think

606
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: there's a lot of opportunity to kind of unite on

607
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 5: this issue, especially in younger generations. When I talked about

608
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 5: hope earlier, they're the ones who really give me hope,

609
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 5: and I think there's a lot of common ground that

610
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 5: we can pursue together.

611
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: That's all I had, and less you have any other notes,

612
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: w or points you wanted to mention.

613
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 5: If you want to find a ACC, you can find

614
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 5: us at a dot eco or ACC Underscore National on

615
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 5: social platforms.

616
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: But that's it for me.

617
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: Well, I hope that was slightly informative, and now we

618
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: will inform you about the Heritage Foundation's private exclusive party

619
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: after these messages. Okay, we are back.

620
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: We are back, and we are ready to tell you, Oh,

621
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: five pigtails. Let us infiltrate famous hate group, the Heritage

622
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: Foundations social house party.

623
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: We got all up in the first off, a lot

624
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: of microwave great food.

625
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: It was the worst food we've had in all of

626
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: Milwaukee was the Heritage and Foundation Great Meals. Yes, that

627
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: is a very notable that the Heritage Foundation had the

628
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: worst food that we've had this entire week.

629
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: Not shocked.

630
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: First of all, they let you two as well as

631
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: another one of our friends come in off of my

632
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: access code, which is very funny, and that we took

633
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: one of the most hilarious photos we've ever taken together.

634
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: And then we then we met with one of the

635
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: producers the Daily Wire and watched him try to figure

636
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: out who we are as I introduced him name he was.

637
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: He was just calculating and then some lady came up

638
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: and disrupted and we just fucking.

639
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: You can see the little like thinking thing.

640
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: Like third grade edition, and it wasn't the math was

641
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 1: not mathing.

642
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: It was like that one BABC Sherlock scene. He was

643
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: trying to pull up. He was trying to pull up

644
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: the files. Didn't work, didn't work, didn't have enough time.

645
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: We stayed in that party, Robert, you seen that party

646
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: for like five straight hours.

647
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: I was there for a long time. For every drink

648
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to drink, I would order another and just

649
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: pour it out because I wanted I wanted to make

650
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: them spend the money.

651
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: It was going to go somewhere free for us, but

652
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: not free for them. So as Robert was was schmooshin

653
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: with the Heritage Foundations, guys. Mean, so he went into

654
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: the Connection Center to hear some speeches, and them today

655
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 3: honestly pretty boring, and even even the notable ones were

656
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: also kind of boring. The one I guess we'll talk

657
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: about just very briefly is Don Junior's speech. First, he

658
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: brought out his daughter, Trump's granddaughter.

659
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: Before you get to that, do you want to go

660
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: over what the theme of the day was.

661
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: No, I mean, maybe we can, we can mention it.

662
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: I don't feel how relevant it was to any of

663
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: the speeches. It was just make America strong.

664
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: It was strong once again, sorry once again?

665
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: All right, interesting that they didn't want to sound out Massa.

666
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: You know.

667
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: Anyways, I guess I guess it's really not that relevant.

668
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: I just just to point out that on the previous

669
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: days for the different themes, there was very intricate backgrounds

670
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: that were up.

671
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: They didn't anything too strong again, they were like they.

672
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: Phoned it the fucking yeah, and there was no interesting

673
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: background Anyways, Garrett, what were you saying?

674
00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: So Donald Trump Junior's daughter, So Trump, the actual real

675
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 3: ones granddaughter gave this little, this little speechman to humanize her.

676
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: Grand Grandpa is a nice guy, calls me and asks

677
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: me how I am.

678
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: That was basically the speech, which is lovely. Is sure?

679
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: Why not?

680
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: It was her first speech. I don't think any of

681
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: the other grandchildren have given speeches before.

682
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: No, this is kind of the first appearance of one

683
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: of Trump's grandkids.

684
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: Yes, And the way it was framed is Don Junior

685
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: came up and then was like she just called me.

686
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: It was very intentionally propaganda's.

687
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: It was also the most happy I've seen Trump this

688
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: entire week, though.

689
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: He might actually care about his granddaughter.

690
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: Yes, definitely more than his son hard it would be

691
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: hard to care less.

692
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure how much they've they've shown it

693
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: on TV, but you know, I had a view of

694
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: him the entire night tonight right from where I was sitting.

695
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: I was an angle where I could see his face,

696
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: and they showed his face on the screen a bunch,

697
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: and he was genuinely stoic. I would say he smiled

698
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: for his granddaughter, definitely the most and maybe one stirring

699
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: Kimberly Gilfoyle's speech at the very end, but other than that,

700
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: I did not see much emotion from him today, and

701
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: it was pretty similar to the rest of the week.

702
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: I think, you again, you have to keep in mind

703
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: with him whatever I mean, we hate him. He's a

704
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: bad man, he's a monster, would be the worst possible

705
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: president we could have. But he's also a person who

706
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: got shot and he's traumatized, you know, and like you

707
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: don't have to like make up excuses for that. Like,

708
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: he is a human being who was scared because a

709
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: man shot him in the head, and that's really not

710
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: not a complicated thing to diagnose.

711
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: So after the granddaughter gave her a little spiel, Trump

712
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: Junior himself had a little speech that he was basically

713
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: just doing an impression of his father.

714
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: For the entire time, dog shit impressing.

715
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: It's not a very good impression, but compared to Vance,

716
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: it was still it was very impressive.

717
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a sec I will say

718
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: the crowd did really really he.

719
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: Seemed to like him. There was chance, so you know,

720
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: Trump Junior, twenty twenty eight.

721
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: It reminded me of when I was at my first

722
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: Trump rally. This would have been in the late spring,

723
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: early summer of twenty sixteen, when fucking Chris Christie conceded

724
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: to Trump. There was a British naturalized citizen in the

725
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: crowd of the rally, and I was like, you want

726
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: them to be president for eight years? And he was like, well,

727
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to do president for eight years to start,

728
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: and I was like, to start, what happens next? He's like, well,

729
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: he's got three kids, doesn't he? Then he like walked

730
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: through his basic plan for Trump to have a dynasty

731
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: like the royal family. And I wish I had said,

732
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 2: go back home, go back home to your fucking country

733
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: with your goddamn royal family. We don't have that here,

734
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: but we might. They wanted it.

735
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, late here the idea of the king's becoming increasingly popular.

736
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: You have never told me that story. And I am, oh, well,

737
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: thank you.

738
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: I got so much great audio of that guy, Thank

739
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: you so much.

740
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: That is going to haunt me tonight. Garrison. What else?

741
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Trump and had a few funny lines

742
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 3: making fun of build back better, making some corn pop jokes,

743
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: a corn.

744
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: Pop jokes in the bulbit, very funny.

745
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: The One line I do want to mention is that

746
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: he talked about how the left wants to use the

747
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: First Amendment to show kids explicit drag shows, but they

748
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: want to put you into jail for making a meme,

749
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: something that has never.

750
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: Happened, not a single time, not once. Not Why they

751
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: barely put people into jail for assaulting the capital.

752
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was most of his speech. We then

753
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: heard from Vance's wife, who gave a typical vice first

754
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: lady speech. It wasn't notable. And then we heard from

755
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: Vance himself, the the the hopeful future vice president.

756
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 1: What sorry, I was taking a nap.

757
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: Wait, Sophie, Sophie, wake up, wake up, we're recording a

758
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 3: podcast here.

759
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: Oh sorry that just the sound of JD. Vance's name

760
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: put me right to sleep.

761
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: He gave what I would describe people have since described.

762
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: It's kind of a bad speech.

763
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: You guys were in the stadium. I was sitting at

764
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: the Heritage finn Ocean party on an upper roof.

765
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: Do Yeah, what'd they think?

766
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: There were three people during most of it, and then

767
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: like four others filtered in when those guys left, every

768
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: single one of them was disappointed. The only guy who

769
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: liked it was a Fox News reporter, and when he left,

770
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: the people who had been like, well he was okay,

771
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: said well, I hate that I had to lie in

772
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: front of that guy, but he was media. I was

773
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: kind of just sitting on my phone pretending to be

774
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: texting and listening to them, so they didn't really notice me.

775
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: But the ultimate feeling that they expressed repeatedly was that

776
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: was really disappointing. It was really boring, It was really long.

777
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: He is not a great speaker. There was one guy

778
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: who repeatedly said, I don't like that his wife isn't white.

779
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: I wish his wife was white. And then there was

780
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 2: a guy who was kind of a more libertarian member

781
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: of the Republican Party who I had chatted with, who

782
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: came in and sat down to have a drink and

783
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: you know, was expressing that he liked Vance's speech. And

784
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: the guy said, what are you a Cuban And the

785
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: guy said no, and he's like, well, you're not white.

786
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: So that was great, amazing stuff happening in the Heritage

787
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: Foundation private party.

788
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: The Foundation party was a was a good time. Yeah,

789
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: so this is.

790
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: Something I was even seeing in the convention people there,

791
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: you know, there was there was some like you know,

792
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 3: respectful clapping, but people weren't super into it, at least

793
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 3: of in the sections that we were at. The lady

794
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: sitting next to me he was, you know, just like

795
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: a Republican woman her maybe fifties or sixties, very very lucid,

796
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 3: kind of just like kept dozing off just because she

797
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 3: was so bored, not like because she was sleepy, just

798
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: because she was bored.

799
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: Wasn't a good speech.

800
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: No.

801
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: She looks at me and she said, he's so dry.

802
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. So at a certain point, I just I just

803
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: kind of whispered to Sophie like, wow, Vance is a

804
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: really dry speaker, and she kind of she kind of

805
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: like nodded awake and started and started started like nodding

806
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: her head in agreement and repeated the same thing to us.

807
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: And I asked her, you know, like, well, who do

808
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 3: you think would have been a better pick? And she said, well,

809
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just expected Advance to be a

810
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: better rhetorical speaker. And that was all she would say.

811
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 3: And I feel like that was kind of generally the vibe.

812
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 3: Like something else I noticed that he was like actually okay,

813
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: and you know, the certain things he was talking about,

814
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: you know, what he was actually saying. You know, there

815
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: were certain things that were interesting, it was more like

816
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: the way he was saying it. It was it was

817
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: specifically he had no ability to do crowd work. He

818
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 3: was just reading out the teleprompter and kind of doing

819
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: a slight smile every thirty seconds, and that's all was.

820
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: He wasn't actually really seriously engaging people.

821
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: Make fun of the bits where Trump dances or whatever

822
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: his little moves, but those play those work.

823
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: Even like pointing out people using gestures, kind of anything

824
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: to connect you to the audience. Vance was just so

825
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: was so dry, was so plain.

826
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: I think the biggest action from his speech was just

827
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: the people in the crowd who liked to chant.

828
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: They were just really into chanting.

829
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: Ted Kruz gave him a great He like that he

830
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: kind of lost them early in his speech the night

831
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: before and won them back because he gave them a

832
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: chance to chair repeatedly went through they like that, they

833
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: like to chat, they're chanters.

834
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: Want to give us some of the chanting highlights.

835
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: Gar Yeah, so he was definitely leaning into his hillbilly

836
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 3: or faux hillbilly background.

837
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: Motherfucker, sorry, your parents made one hundred and seventy five

838
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: thousand goddamn dollars a year speaking to somebody who grew

839
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: up in a fucking rural ass Oklahoma, like fucking carpetbagger.

840
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: That was what he was using for most of his speech.

841
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: He was telling stories about the woman who raised him

842
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: when his own mom was dealing with addiction, who he

843
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 3: referred to as his mem.

844
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: Uh huh, and fucking goddamn it.

845
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: The first big chant I took note of is he

846
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: told a story about how he was hanging out when

847
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: he was like a kid or like a teen. He

848
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: was hanging out with someone who was known to be

849
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: like a local drug dealer, and his mem told him

850
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: that if she saw him hanging out with that guy again,

851
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: she was going to run him over in a truck,

852
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: run over the drug dealer, and no one's gonna find

853
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: out about it. And the crowd ate this up, chanting

854
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: me ma, me ma, So they were They weren't chanting

855
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 3: about killing this drug dealer, right, they were chanting about murdering,

856
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 3: murdering this drug dealer.

857
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: G d Vance never met a drug dealer in his

858
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: fucking life, I'll tell you that one.

859
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: So that was the first one, and the next little

860
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: Bema story he told is that when she was a

861
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: little bit older. He said that after she died, they

862
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: found nineteen loaded handguns all over her house and they

863
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: realized it's because she wasn't able to move very fast,

864
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: so she always wanted a gun no matter where she was,

865
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: she wanted to be in armslength the gun, whether that

866
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: be in the cutlery drawer, by the TV remote, under

867
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 3: the bed, because because she wanted to protect her family

868
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: even though she was old. And this this led into

869
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: another another chance. Specifically, the nineteen loaded handguns just again

870
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: went the crowd ate that up, and the crowd even

871
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: started just chanting about how good they were at chanting.

872
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 3: It became very self referential, very like patting yourself on

873
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 3: the back for chanting.

874
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 2: Funny, these people love chanting.

875
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: And yeah, that was that was That was most events speech.

876
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: It wasn't very good, it was too long. Almost unanimously,

877
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: people at the Heritage Foundation party did not like it,

878
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: so they did not get that reproval.

879
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: One pseudo positive, which was the Fox News journalist.

880
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: Who I'm sure is contractually obligated to like it.

881
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, and who the people there made fun

882
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: of when he left.

883
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: Yes, well, we talked to a campaign manager earlier at

884
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: the at the Heritage Party just regarding kind of the

885
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 3: race in general, mentioning stuff about the upcoming vice presidential debates,

886
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: which the Trump Badman put out a statement saying they

887
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 3: didn't want to lock down any details on this until

888
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: he actually know who the vice president's going to be.

889
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: That which is a good piece of propaganda. And so,

890
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: and we were talking about that and and bringing it

891
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: up to some of these people at the Heritage Party,

892
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: like who do you think actually is going to be

893
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 3: the Democratic nominee? Many of them did not believe it

894
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: was going to be Joe Biden. Many of them thought

895
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 3: that it either could be an unknown candidate at this point,

896
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: or more likely probably kamalaw And this is something that

897
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: I've been noticing is that every time in these speeches

898
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: where they're talking about Joe Biden's policies, they're not just

899
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: saying Joe Biden, They're saying Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's, well, well,

900
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 3: Kamala Kamala harris in one instance, Kamala Harris's policies. So

901
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: they are already preparing to start shifting their rhetoric onto kamalaw.

902
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: That's something that the opposition's already planning to do. And

903
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: you know, as as of today, which is which is

904
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: Wednesday night, we've heard that both Biden made announcements in

905
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 3: the same day that he would step down if he

906
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: was to face this serious medical diagnosis. And he also

907
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: got COVID the same So.

908
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: The look on your face when we told you that

909
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: Joe Biden had COVID you were you were thrilled.

910
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 3: Okay, well we shouldn't say that either. Anyway. That is

911
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 3: kind of a brief glimpse into the Heritage Foundation party.

912
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: I guess that the vibes were more similar to what

913
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 3: is I think well known now as the least a

914
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: good episode of The Boys, that that private tech night

915
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 3: party combined with like a frat, a frat bro bar hop.

916
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: What I'll say about this is they had an EDM

917
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: track set to Country Road Take Me Home. I will

918
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: say that like if you were to if you were

919
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 2: to put that side by side with the plane crash

920
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: that killed the author of that song, I think he

921
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: would agree with you. This party was worse.

922
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: One more thing I wanted to note was I did

923
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: not go to the party for seven hundred hours like

924
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: the two of you. I went home after all the

925
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: speeches home, I went back to the hotel after all

926
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: the speeches.

927
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: Did that country road take you home?

928
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: That country road took me home place you belonged. And

929
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: I had a very very very nice lift driver. Sir,

930
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: if you're if you buy a sub chance, listened to podcasts.

931
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: You were very nice.

932
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: Thank you.

933
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: After what was a very loud day, there was a

934
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 1: guy holding a rest in peace sign with the photo

935
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: of the guy who attempted to a set state the president,

936
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: with the caption.

937
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: In American hero great stuff.

938
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: Yes, I took a photo of it. And the amount

939
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: of people leaving the yards see that just shouted their worst.

940
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: Many slurs at him were countless. And I don't know

941
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: if anything else happened further after that, but very strange choice.

942
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: That is an interesting move.

943
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: All I know is that based on the last postings

944
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: of the victim of that shooting, Corey comparatour, he'll get

945
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: over it.

946
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: The Japanese dead Well. Anyway, That wraps up our coverage

947
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 3: this week of the Republican National Convention. We will lead

948
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 3: next week with Trump's first public speech since the shooting.

949
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: That'll be dropping Sunday night.

950
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit of mere rudy sprinkle of squeeze in,

951
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: some rudy as a tree, some squeeze in like like

952
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: he squeezed down some of that hair juice.

953
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: That's Jesus Christ.

954
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for listening to our initial conver of

955
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: the RNC. We have more scripted episodes, more kind of

956
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: polished deep dives about the people and conversations that we

957
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: have had here in beautiful Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

958
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: And remember, folks, if you're going to take a bullet

959
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: for somebody, Donald Trump does not care, not interested at us.

960
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: Not making the funeral is not He is not going

961
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: to show up at your funeral.

962
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a loud chair, painfully loud chair. You know

963
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: what else is painfully loud? The Heritage Foundation party. Anyway,

964
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: we're done, goodnight, good night.

965
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: It could Happen here as a production of cool Zone Media.

966
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website

967
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: cool zonemedia dot com, or check us out on the

968
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

969
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: You can find sources for It Could Happen Here, updated

970
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: monthly at cool Zonemedia dot com slash sources. Thanks for listening.