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Speaker 4: The Cowboys were they off day here, so victory Monday
Speaker 4: yesterday off day here. Spoke with Brian Schottenheimer yesterday. Asked
Speaker 4: about my boy Mingo.
Speaker 5: What's up?
Speaker 3: What do you got to mean about wide receiving numbers?
Speaker 3: Said the three collective groan, We're talking about Dingo. I mean,
Speaker 3: I said, were talking about Mingo. Talk about.
Speaker 4: Jonathan Mingo? You j ming and Mingo who I went
Speaker 4: found him in the locker room. I had seen him
Speaker 4: since camp. I was like, like, that's Mingo right cart
Speaker 4: and where he did eighty one? I mean, so he's
Speaker 4: over there by my miles saying, it's like it's like
Speaker 4: a little group that we.
Speaker 5: Wow, they don't want You don't want to be.
Speaker 3: You know, can be over there with God. You don't
Speaker 3: want to be over there.
Speaker 4: You walking to the far the locker, A little little
Speaker 4: little click right there, that cold.
Speaker 3: We don't never go to him. You don't want to
Speaker 3: be asy, don't want to be in that group sitting
Speaker 3: there together.
Speaker 5: You know, there ain't no interviews come over.
Speaker 3: About the man.
Speaker 5: They don't want us.
Speaker 3: We were we were talking to Kenneth Murray and I
Speaker 3: saw us like, look like double check. You get a
Speaker 3: double check? Can go right? You would ask somebody, is this.
Speaker 5: Where's my bulletproof vest?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 4: I went over there and I went and got it,
Speaker 4: and man was dressing getting ready to leave. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go get his scouts because because it was confirmed, it
Speaker 4: was him, so affirmation, I mean, you want to at
Speaker 4: least be courteous. So I said, he think we talked
Speaker 4: to you real quick. So we talked to him. I
Speaker 4: did not realize he's never played a game with Dak Prescott,
Speaker 4: never because Dak was hurt last year when he when
Speaker 4: he got here by the time he was ready to go,
Speaker 4: he Dak was hurt, so he's never played with himself.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: He talked about that opportunity and then just remembering yesterday's players,
Speaker 4: lone and we guys were talking about him getting scout
Speaker 4: team work.
Speaker 3: He spent last week on the scout team.
Speaker 4: We talked about getting Scout team rep showing what you
Speaker 4: could do, so he did that last week. I asked
Speaker 4: about SPSSEL teams. We talked about that too.
Speaker 3: He said, oh, he said, you got to play special team.
Speaker 4: So he's already set. So he's already been, you know,
Speaker 4: working on that. I said, well, can you are you
Speaker 4: healthy enough to do it? Werena cause any issues at all?
Speaker 4: He said, I'm ready to go, got to play, so
Speaker 4: he was going to do so he was he I
Speaker 4: think maybe punt, but I'm punk but I wasn't sure so,
Speaker 4: but anyway, that'll work itself out this week. And that's
Speaker 4: what Schoenheimer said. He today, Look, you know windows here,
Speaker 4: he's going to be up. So he's gonna be on
Speaker 4: the fifty three. He wasn't ready to say he was
Speaker 4: going to activate him yet. Then he went down the
Speaker 4: list of the receivers and everything you guys were doing well,
Speaker 4: So he wasn't ready to commit, but he did have
Speaker 4: good things to say about Mingo possibly coming back. I
Speaker 4: haven't had an opportunity to talk with Dak Prescott about it,
Speaker 4: but the things we talked about yesterday on the show,
Speaker 4: I took it.
Speaker 3: Into the locker room to go ask him, and so
Speaker 3: he was there.
Speaker 4: And then when I talked to Shotenheimer about him, Shotenheimer
Speaker 4: had good things to say, so he'll see.
Speaker 7: It looks like he has the right mindset at least
Speaker 7: we talked about this yesterday. You know, if you want
Speaker 7: to get on that fifty three or you want to
Speaker 7: get on that active roster, you want to have some
Speaker 7: shoulder pads in your locker, you're gonna have to do
Speaker 7: some special teams. And it seems like he's he's ready
Speaker 7: to go as far as that's concerned. He doesn't have
Speaker 7: that rapport, you know with Dak Prescott. You know that
Speaker 7: to me because when you get to that point in
Speaker 7: a quarterback where I would assume at least Shot He's
Speaker 7: coming to him like, hey, you know we got these
Speaker 7: you know, receivers at the bottom.
Speaker 3: You know, do you prefer somebody here there?
Speaker 7: You know, who do you have rapport with if they
Speaker 7: need to get thrust into the lineup. And that's the
Speaker 7: only thing where it's like, you know, if you don't
Speaker 7: got that connection with Dak Prescott, you know, he's not
Speaker 7: one of those guys that can go to bat for
Speaker 7: you if it gets down to there. Now that's now,
Speaker 7: that's way on the line. You know, you got to coaches,
Speaker 7: special teams and all that before that. But if it
Speaker 7: does get to that point, you know, Dak can't go
Speaker 7: to the bat for you because he doesn't have rapport
Speaker 7: with you. Got rapport with Lenois, he got rapport with Toldbery,
Speaker 7: and we all know about the other cats out there.
Speaker 7: So at least Mingo has the right mindset as far
Speaker 7: as getting onto the field, which we know has got
Speaker 7: to be special teams and it's got to be showing
Speaker 7: you're worth via scout team against the number one defense.
Speaker 3: But you already said it, like when I watched it.
Speaker 6: Appreciate y'all missed the show because the boys, But hey,
Speaker 6: you're right, you're right, he get a sponsored to pay
Speaker 6: some bills. But anyways, like you said, you skipped a
Speaker 6: lot of steps, Like yeah, you do. It does help
Speaker 6: if Dak has a report with you so he can
Speaker 6: go stand on the table. But the things that got
Speaker 6: to happen before then, one you gotta have injuries. What
Speaker 6: you're not having right now. You have everybody that's firing
Speaker 6: on all cylinders. You have the number one offense going
Speaker 6: right now. And what it's like the good country saying
Speaker 6: what they used to always say, if it ain't broke,
Speaker 6: you don't fix it. But the thing that does look
Speaker 6: good though, is you have the head coach speaking about
Speaker 6: you like you said, he is playing the game within
Speaker 6: the game and playing chesses not checkers and saying, hey,
Speaker 6: my number is called, I am ready to do special teams.
Speaker 6: I'm doing scout team and showing that trying to build
Speaker 6: a report during practice. But with the coach speaking this
Speaker 6: highly of you, them haven't seen anything from you. You
Speaker 6: having a connection with you that lets you know that
Speaker 6: your job is kind of safe right now, and where
Speaker 6: it's like, hey, are we in a rush, like there's
Speaker 6: a window to put there even if he is ready,
Speaker 6: are they gonna sit there and say, hey, we're just
Speaker 6: going to throw you out to the wolves, or we're
Speaker 6: gonna save this right now and keep you for next year.
Speaker 4: So going back in, he did say he was ready
Speaker 4: to play last week, but they decided not to.
Speaker 8: So my whole thing with that is this and him
Speaker 8: being here since last year, not having a chance to
Speaker 8: play with DAK. I understand where you're coming from, you know, like,
Speaker 8: if it ain't broke, don't fix and if you don't
Speaker 8: need to rush it, don't rush it. But sometimes he
Speaker 8: got to prove his worth and his value here, you know,
Speaker 8: And so like I would, you don't want it to
Speaker 8: be in a situation where he has to be thrust
Speaker 8: into it. You actually want to be able to like
Speaker 8: maneuver him into it and in a more of a
Speaker 8: graceful manner than looking or waiting for an injury to
Speaker 8: pop up. And that that happened, so you know, like
Speaker 8: and that's just a trip that he's been here all
Speaker 8: this time and he hasn't had a chance to get
Speaker 8: on the field with that yet. So I'm sure that
Speaker 8: you know, I know he's biting at the bit at it,
Speaker 8: but I'm sure the organization and all the coaches want
Speaker 8: to see, you know, like what he can actually do
Speaker 8: if he gets an opportunity to get out there too.
Speaker 7: If I'm the organization if I'm you know, like like
Speaker 7: like Trade just said, it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Speaker 7: Like if I'm an organization, I'm like, man, we're going
Speaker 7: right now. Oh yeah without that turping you know on
Speaker 7: the slot you got for noy out there.
Speaker 3: You know what he tobera.
Speaker 8: Y'all know, like like y'all didn't play with dudes who
Speaker 8: never dressed on Sunday and their jobs are secure for
Speaker 8: some kind of reason, right, Okay, now that being said,
Speaker 8: like okay, yeah, he's sitting back and like you said,
Speaker 8: it sounds like, you know, with Shotty talking so highly
Speaker 8: of him that.
Speaker 3: He's secure, but you can't be comfortable.
Speaker 8: If you so for him exactly like what you said,
Speaker 8: like go out there on the on the scout team,
Speaker 8: go against those ones on defense and tear them up,
Speaker 8: you know, to show that you are actually in that
Speaker 8: realm of like yeah, yeah, I want to be back
Speaker 8: out there right now, and I'm going to show y'all
Speaker 8: and give y'all some type of reason and practice to
Speaker 8: eventually like give me an opportunity to go out there
Speaker 8: using other people.
Speaker 3: That's how we played with him for a little bit.
Speaker 7: Cole Beasley, So that was my teammate for the first
Speaker 7: couple when he came in, you know, scout team guy.
Speaker 3: Nobody he did. He return kicks here and there. But
Speaker 3: that's how he was able to get that slot.
Speaker 5: Roll was.
Speaker 7: He was on that scout team and we would go again,
Speaker 7: some who's this little kid out there? He was unguardable
Speaker 7: and we was like, man like, hold on if he
Speaker 7: if he's doing that to us, imagine what he get
Speaker 7: through to the rest of the league.
Speaker 3: And the rest is history. But that's the way he
Speaker 3: was able to get on.
Speaker 7: There was out there just on the scout team, doing
Speaker 7: us dirty at camp and and all that.
Speaker 5: Do you think Mingo has the talent? No to be Okay,
Speaker 5: there you go. I was just about to say Cole
Speaker 5: was a different team.
Speaker 4: Let me also throw this out here for Jonathan Mingo
Speaker 4: because it seems like eons ago. But he was having
Speaker 4: a good training camp before he got hurt. So is
Speaker 4: there something there?
Speaker 3: Practice?
Speaker 6: I think practice, it's enough, it's enough, it's enough, y'all
Speaker 6: better y'all been about seven weeks ago.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's had the most breakups in training care.
Speaker 6: If we're talking about normal players, yes, that would be
Speaker 6: the case. But we also got to realize the organization
Speaker 6: that we're dealing with. This is the Cowboys, Jerry's pick.
Speaker 6: So like, this is one of those organizations that if
Speaker 6: you show something, there's a lot of people that have
Speaker 6: been on this roster historically that you thought shouldn't have
Speaker 6: been here. And so he showed enough for them to say, hey,
Speaker 6: we still need you, you want you. There was question coming
Speaker 6: in about it, and then on top of that, after
Speaker 6: the questions came in, these other receivers are doing what
Speaker 6: they're doing. You still have done enough during your rehab process,
Speaker 6: going in there showing them that you're working out for
Speaker 6: them to speak about you.
Speaker 3: People don't speak about.
Speaker 6: Injured players in the media, if that makes sense, unless
Speaker 6: they're excited.
Speaker 4: Now, Dak talked a little bit about why why he's
Speaker 4: had this impressive stretch.
Speaker 3: He says, personally, a lot of all.
Speaker 4: Season work to the team, to getting together and in
Speaker 4: the spring and the training camp, and he goes on
Speaker 4: the name of the you know all the guys here,
Speaker 4: you know cd R, Tolbert Flow, you know what they've
Speaker 4: been doing here. Piggyback in a little bit of what
Speaker 4: you said Trey about let's go back and look at
Speaker 4: Jonathan Mingo. They gave up a fourth pick, a fourth
Speaker 4: round pick for him. He's under contract next year. Jalen
Speaker 4: Tobert does not, so at some point in time as
Speaker 4: they go through this season, it will be interesting just
Speaker 4: what do they do now.
Speaker 3: We've talked mentioned before.
Speaker 4: There's been several guys on a different podcasts who said,
Speaker 4: hey man, look move Jalen tober go find a linebacker someplace.
Speaker 4: Move Jayalen tober by the way speaking linebacker tomorrow and
Speaker 4: overshown twenty one day windows open, So there's another potential
Speaker 4: player that you could be getting back here to help.
Speaker 3: But the whole thing with Bingo is just he's.
Speaker 4: Not just his throwaway guy. He's gonna be here because
Speaker 4: they made a trade. They're not about to sit up
Speaker 4: here just say hey man, you boo boo and we
Speaker 4: we've made a mistake. They're gould do that. It's tred
Speaker 4: talked about. It's kind of how they work here. Sometimes
Speaker 4: Hey you know what I mean. You you are a guy.
Speaker 4: But ultimately, going into twenty six, he's gonna be here.
Speaker 4: George Pickens may not be here, Tobert may not be here,
Speaker 4: but Jonavan Mingo is under contract.
Speaker 5: Number one off.
Speaker 4: So when you start thinking about next year's receiving room,
Speaker 4: it will be ceedee lamb turping, mingo flo, Are we.
Speaker 7: Sure he gonna like Mingo going like it's guaranteed that
Speaker 7: that he's gonna be here next year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got your insurance.
Speaker 7: You know what, I don't see if you don't that
Speaker 7: contract where it's like, hey, we can't.
Speaker 3: So that's cudible with my pigion, that's not cudable.
Speaker 6: I mean, you gotta have that insurance policy because you
Speaker 6: still got pictures that you gotta play. You got those
Speaker 6: are two big, like relatively big contracts you just pay
Speaker 6: everybody this off season, So going in there, you gotta
Speaker 6: keep something like you don't just let it go for nothing.
Speaker 6: And like you said, you gave up insurance cap in
Speaker 6: the organization and like this with these with the big
Speaker 6: guy up there, Randy Gregory kept him for a long time.
Speaker 6: Like the list goes on and on and have you
Speaker 6: can name people that where it was like, bro, you
Speaker 6: stayed here because there was a question that was uncertainy
Speaker 6: going in next year.
Speaker 3: But all those people actually did something on the.
Speaker 5: Randy didn't well, Randy, Randy.
Speaker 7: Greg Brady had his issues, but he was on the
Speaker 7: feel and he he performed like later bro early on,
Speaker 7: he performed and you can tell what that boy ceiling
Speaker 7: was looking.
Speaker 3: He had his issues, but he is a totally different thing. Yeah, Lingo,
Speaker 3: with all.
Speaker 7: Due respect, I mean, if that's your insurance policy, if
Speaker 7: you're coming back saying that we we gotta have.
Speaker 4: Ask you in trouble, I'm not like, so it's not insurance. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: insurance is a bad word. I mean, just going back
Speaker 4: into just hot roster construction. You know, these guys have
Speaker 4: a whiteboard twenty six who's under who's under contract? He's
Speaker 4: under contract.
Speaker 3: This is true.
Speaker 4: And then when you look at two players who are
Speaker 4: not Jae and Tolbert George Pickens.
Speaker 3: So then you say, okay, who's under contract? You got
Speaker 3: CD LAMB turping. Okay.
Speaker 4: And so if Pickings is not back, Mingo is a
Speaker 4: bigger toy. He's a different So so you've got that.
Speaker 4: That's they're not going to just kick that to the curve.
Speaker 4: I don't give him a shot.
Speaker 5: And he and he's cheaper, like I mean, under the cap,
Speaker 5: under the camera right now, it.
Speaker 8: Don't hurt right now, talking about it all makes sense, Okay,
Speaker 8: but come off season, come come, come draft, come come.
Speaker 3: Free agency and everything else like that.
Speaker 8: If you have an opportunity to go out there and
Speaker 8: get something that that that fourth round pick is, it
Speaker 8: could be made up and that money is not that
Speaker 8: it ain't.
Speaker 6: It can in a normal organization, but in this organization
Speaker 6: where the family runs this, they're gonna make their picks work.
Speaker 5: And obvious.
Speaker 8: He actually wasn't a pick of the Cowboys. He was
Speaker 8: traded and they got it. They we saw. So I
Speaker 8: think it might be a little bit different when it
Speaker 8: comes to you know, like.
Speaker 4: But go back into this, go back into Tulp get
Speaker 4: you there was coming into this year, even though Tolbert
Speaker 4: let the team and touches, especially after year one when
Speaker 4: he didn't do anything at all. In year two he improved,
Speaker 4: but they were still those questions about him, and they
Speaker 4: stayed with him. They stayed with and so that's what
Speaker 4: I'm just saying with Jonathan Mingo, just the way of
Speaker 4: receiving room and contrasts work. Right now, this is somebody
Speaker 4: that you should write down for twenty six.
Speaker 3: Could things change? Yes? I mean jacque Tel always said
Speaker 3: sports is fluid. It is very fluid.
Speaker 4: You could decide many were about to pay Pickens. We're
Speaker 4: gonna do this and maybe we'll move Mingo. I mean,
Speaker 4: you could whatever, but with Tolbert leave it, you're going
Speaker 4: to still need to fill your room. And and Mingo's
Speaker 4: a guy that you could count in the room along
Speaker 4: with Flinoyd right now of what they're doing in terms
Speaker 4: of their own roster development.
Speaker 3: Because you still got other guys. You gotta pay Pickens
Speaker 3: the kicker to get the kick out.
Speaker 4: Neither one of those two will be coming with discount prices,
Speaker 4: so so you're going to start.
Speaker 3: To look to see as you fill the roster.
Speaker 4: And then I think this this is one thing where
Speaker 4: Mingo can help himself out a lot. What type of
Speaker 4: report do you develop with Dak Prescott, What type of
Speaker 4: report confidence do you get from the head coach of
Speaker 4: play caller Brian Shotteim, and what kind of work do
Speaker 4: you do with special teams. So it's in his hands
Speaker 4: right now, but it was something to think about.
Speaker 5: He's got to make plays.
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Speaker 7: So if you gotta excel, yeah boy, you know I'm
Speaker 7: over here waiting for it.
Speaker 5: Limedia like an Excel.
Speaker 3: To play Excel. That's you.
Speaker 5: We know.
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Speaker 6: some sixty five.
Speaker 5: You know that you talking about some I'm not sixty five?
Speaker 5: Ready to go?
Speaker 3: He talk about the excel, bro, don't don't hate to play.
Speaker 3: I hate the game.
Speaker 5: Right now?
Speaker 3: Did I come? Did I cut the exam? But I
Speaker 3: come here my exals today?
Speaker 6: No, no, no no, there's a difference between adult excel
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Speaker 5: Hey, but can I answer what question?
Speaker 6: Though? You talk about rosters, opportunity of having your shoulders,
Speaker 6: you're talking about overshot coming back. You talk about Mingo
Speaker 6: coming back. That's two spots. Oh this roster?
Speaker 5: Who would you?
Speaker 3: So great question?
Speaker 5: Who would be? Though?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you already know we know if y'all, If y'all
Speaker 6: don't understand that the players lambs when they say put down.
Speaker 6: We always are decited to get one of our brothers back.
Speaker 6: But with getting one of our brothers back that's been
Speaker 6: going for a long time, we know that it's somebody
Speaker 6: there that we've established, we've grown relationships with, and they're
Speaker 6: actually kind of good. And then you're you be like,
Speaker 6: dang man, he shouldn't have got put down for this guy.
Speaker 6: It shouldn't have been that guy.
Speaker 4: So Brevian span Ford has played. Well, yes, that's another
Speaker 4: name there, and he's a team or too. When Brian
Speaker 4: Schotttheimer talked about too in terms of tackles and things
Speaker 4: like that. So it's going to be when Brian says,
Speaker 4: you got to compete every week and practices count here
Speaker 4: at least we now know unlike another coach was.
Speaker 3: Here at one time.
Speaker 5: Wow, put a name on it.
Speaker 4: We actually gonna mean what we say. You actually had
Speaker 4: to go play for shot. They just not giving it
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 3: Can't do that just saying you saying what I mean. Really, see,
Speaker 3: let's talk about Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4: Sixteen touchdown passes right now, that is second in and
Speaker 4: that National Football League behind Matthew Stafford. Dak is definitely
Speaker 4: putting his name into the MVP conversation.
Speaker 3: I'm not ready to say that he's the leader.
Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here saying, hey, man, it's something to
Speaker 4: talk about, and he's doing his part. Because we have
Speaker 4: many fans who are apt to criticize Dak Prescott. Give
Speaker 4: the man his flowers. Playing some outstanding football right now,
Speaker 4: and with a horrible defense, he has to be perfect
Speaker 4: and while the defense did its job this week, you
Speaker 4: saw what happened if they did their job what Dak
Speaker 4: Prescott was able to do with a little bit of
Speaker 4: help from them, just a little bit. So he's playing
Speaker 4: next level. And asked about the connection between Pickens and Lamb,
Speaker 4: is this the best duo you played with? And he said,
Speaker 4: quotes up to y'all decide. Dez was just in here,
Speaker 4: so don't say that too loud. I was, and it's smart.
Speaker 4: Those dudes are unbelievable. They are and it's a credit
Speaker 4: to them. So he loves what he has there. I
Speaker 4: don't think it's a stretch to say it all just
Speaker 4: looking at the talent between Pickens and Lamb as he's
Speaker 4: been here, this is a better combination, which includes when
Speaker 4: Amari Cooper was here along with Ceede Lamb and they
Speaker 4: had the kid from Colorado State who ended up trying
Speaker 4: Michael Gallup.
Speaker 3: Those that good trio, but.
Speaker 4: No one can compare to you know, they don't compare
Speaker 4: to what Pickens can do. The defensive pe the defensive
Speaker 4: p I calls that that man draws is that it's
Speaker 4: that in itself is a heck of a skill.
Speaker 8: I mean, Cooper was one of the Mark Cooper was
Speaker 8: one of the best receivers for a while. I'm gonna
Speaker 8: say in the top five for a while while he
Speaker 8: was playing, you know what I mean. But it so
Speaker 8: I don't want to say he was inconsistent, but it
Speaker 8: was just you didn't see it all the time.
Speaker 3: He didn't show up all the time.
Speaker 8: You know, George with this opportunity he's got and now
Speaker 8: with CD even coming back. But George, like I keep saying,
Speaker 8: I saw that in Pittsburgh even when he didn't have
Speaker 8: that quarterback like that. So you know, it just goes
Speaker 8: to say and they I even saw it on somewhere
Speaker 8: else where. They were talking about this may be one
Speaker 8: of the top duos in in the league right now
Speaker 8: as far as receiving goes.
Speaker 3: So I think we're.
Speaker 5: Doing a disservice for Mark Cooper.
Speaker 6: Like, yes, he was the top five when he first
Speaker 6: came out, and I think when he got here to
Speaker 6: the Cowboys, you've.
Speaker 5: Seen a tail end of a Mark Cooper.
Speaker 6: It wasn't It wasn't the a Mark Cooper that we
Speaker 6: were accustomed to seeing, that top five of Mark Cooper.
Speaker 3: So with this whole.
Speaker 6: George and CD and it's not taking anything away from them,
Speaker 6: but like he's right here in his prime, Like George
Speaker 6: is fresh in this thing. He hasn't even really we
Speaker 6: didn't see nothing from him as with the stealers. And
Speaker 6: now that you have a serviceable quarterback, like I said,
Speaker 6: in my opinion, I said it. I said it before
Speaker 6: the season even start, when we was on the shot,
Speaker 6: I said, they this, if George come in here and
Speaker 6: does what he's supposed to, this might be a better
Speaker 6: combo than the receivers that they have over there at
Speaker 6: the Bengals. Like you're going to really be sitting here
Speaker 6: saying this man can really take over, and he's done that.
Speaker 3: And more so with that being.
Speaker 6: Said, honestly, and I don't want to change the subject,
Speaker 6: but I think.
Speaker 5: The DEAs and Cole Beasley.
Speaker 6: Combo was a little bit better in my opinion, my
Speaker 6: opinion than Amari Cooper is CD.
Speaker 5: That's just me.
Speaker 3: And Maari Cooper. He was straight made several Pro Bowls
Speaker 3: when he was here.
Speaker 4: This was a team was three and five when they
Speaker 4: made the trade from the Raiders, and he saved Jason
Speaker 4: Garris's job and made them a playoff team.
Speaker 3: So he was he was a good player.
Speaker 4: When I say that CD Land was still young as
Speaker 4: a rookie developed, right now CD is developed, he is,
Speaker 4: he's been an all pro.
Speaker 3: What we're seeing from Pickens in my opinion right.
Speaker 4: Now, Trump's where Pickens is at right now, Trump's where
Speaker 4: we saw CD with Mauri.
Speaker 3: I'll agree with that. That's why I.
Speaker 4: Look at those two like when I look at the
Speaker 4: two players in that fashion, and then there's not necessarily
Speaker 4: a third guy here, but there's that tight end that
Speaker 4: you've got With Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 6: I was just about to say when I'm not saying,
Speaker 6: like you don't think Ferguie is like that guy now?
Speaker 5: Like is this just the one and done or is
Speaker 5: this like.
Speaker 7: A like a couple of years ago he had ten
Speaker 7: tubs in the in the Redson.
Speaker 3: So Ferguson's a dude.
Speaker 7: These two guys on the outside or top three tight
Speaker 7: end in the in the league.
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't say all that currently even with what
Speaker 3: he's doing, I don't know I got or is that
Speaker 3: just that good?
Speaker 6: Because if that's the case, then that makes the MVP
Speaker 6: conversation even more for that because you're making a guy
Speaker 6: this number, he's topping the league right now, what he's
Speaker 6: doing like you're you're bringing, you're reviving, George's picking and
Speaker 6: pulling out that maximum start.
Speaker 3: It's just the quarterback, Like that's your quarterback. Ferguson't have
Speaker 3: a touchdown last year.
Speaker 6: Not one Javonte like you read, and I would even
Speaker 6: say the defense felt obligated enough to where it's like
Speaker 6: we gotta do something for them. If you just have
Speaker 6: a serviceable defense. We've seen what Dak do. So as
Speaker 6: far as that MVP conversation, I think that's where you
Speaker 6: got to give him more credit because you've got these
Speaker 6: guys looking like preential Pro Bowls.
Speaker 3: Without a doubt.
Speaker 7: I mean, I understand you got pickings, you got CD LAMB,
Speaker 7: you got all these dude, Ain't none of that going
Speaker 7: down without Dak Pricecott. Yeah, I mean it's it just
Speaker 7: comes down to that, like this dude is playing unbelievable
Speaker 7: football right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if the record was better, he would
Speaker 3: he would be on top of the world.
Speaker 6: If you had better defense, I agree, if he had
Speaker 6: just at least even if he had a top twenty defense,
Speaker 6: I think it wouldn't even be a question about this
Speaker 6: MVP conversation for them to be.
Speaker 5: You number Packers.
Speaker 4: You know, we're talking something yeah here because the way
Speaker 4: the Packers are playing Ceede Lamb catches those footballs and
Speaker 4: you beat Philadelphia, then we're having a different conversation because
Speaker 4: you can say, hey, you beat the world champion, or
Speaker 4: you beat a team like in Green Bay who who
Speaker 4: a lot of people think has the potential to win
Speaker 4: win the NFC. So that's that's the issue right now,
Speaker 4: and it's always been something that's been used.
Speaker 3: Again, Dak Prescott, who are you beating? That's been out there.
Speaker 4: So right now you've beaten two New York teams that
Speaker 4: are in dead last place, and you've beaten Washington Club
Speaker 4: right now that's been injured. So that's where the people say,
Speaker 4: will show me who you can beat? And so that's
Speaker 4: been not just him the last few years.
Speaker 3: It's been an issue with the team.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And he's got an opportunity to really turn that around.
Speaker 7: I mean we talked about it last week and throughout
Speaker 7: the weeks. When you look at the remaining schedule, they
Speaker 7: got the hardest schedule remaining in the National Football League. Dude,
Speaker 7: He's got some big time matchups coming up. So I
Speaker 7: got a chance to overturn that.
Speaker 8: I gotta give Shoddy some accountability on this too as well. Okay,
Speaker 8: I mean Dak is playing his brains out, but the
Speaker 8: way the games are being called and to balance this
Speaker 8: out there too as well, is also just playing into
Speaker 8: the fact that, like it's helping Dak look that much better.
Speaker 8: He doesn't have to throw the ball forty sixty times
Speaker 8: a game try to win, you know, and that balance
Speaker 8: is also helping him out, like as just as a player,
Speaker 8: he doesn't have to do so much, he doesn't have
Speaker 8: to worry about so much. So I think Shoty did
Speaker 8: get some of the credit for what Dak is doing.
Speaker 4: Which is what he said you want to do, said
Speaker 4: he wanted to be a running a running team. We
Speaker 4: saw darn Near's symmetry last week in the game against Washington.
Speaker 4: But I go back to when Tony Romo, in my opinion,
Speaker 4: had his best year with the Cowboys, is when DeMarco
Speaker 4: Murray was the NFL offensive player.
Speaker 3: Because it was a balance.
Speaker 4: Once these dudes and you got dbis, once these dudes
Speaker 4: started throwing forty to fifty balls a game.
Speaker 3: Man, it Oh, you can't wait, he gonna throw me one.
Speaker 3: He gonna throw me one, I give it an opportunity.
Speaker 7: But when you got that run balance, I mean you're
Speaker 7: starting to read different keys.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: It's just it's hard to pick up on when when
Speaker 7: they got your defense kind of off balance a little bit,
Speaker 7: when they can run it as strong as they can,
Speaker 7: as strong as they can, and then pass the ball
Speaker 7: as well.
Speaker 4: So you remember we talked last week about CD coming
Speaker 4: back and what choice Joe Whitt was gonna have to
Speaker 4: make in terms of, man, you know, what do you
Speaker 4: do it? Because the Panthers didn't have have ceed lamp,
Speaker 4: so they brought the safety down. They they couldn't do it,
Speaker 4: and then and then we saw Javonte being able to
Speaker 4: take advantage of it.
Speaker 3: So a lot of it's working.
Speaker 4: But I think your door say, you're hitting on something
Speaker 4: that a lot of other people have also been talking about.
Speaker 3: Tours. Brian Schottenheimer is doing a really good job.
Speaker 4: And I'll you know, I don't want to beat up
Speaker 4: on Mike McCarthy, but I'll just I'll wonder this, would
Speaker 4: the man still have a job if he let Brian
Speaker 4: Schttenheimer call the plays and do this last year possibility
Speaker 4: question that's possible running I didn't like running the football,
Speaker 4: still on running football. But if you do some of this,
Speaker 4: if they're doing some of this last year, they probably
Speaker 4: have a few more wins because there were many times
Speaker 4: they were just chucking it too much.
Speaker 3: Plus I mean that was hurt. That was hurt.
Speaker 4: But still just something a little bit different here. That's
Speaker 4: something a little bit different. We would come back here, Uh,
Speaker 4: where we go? Jerry Jones had something to say on
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Speaker 4: on the trade deadline quote, if there was a trade.
Speaker 3: It will be because it fits us, and.
Speaker 4: To fit there's got to be a reason why the
Speaker 4: player would lead that we're interested in going forward with,
Speaker 4: and it would have to fit us in terms of
Speaker 4: our plans on our roster, the financial and everything that
Speaker 4: goes with that. Just because we played well, all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, everybody thinks bored.
Speaker 3: You're in the hunt.
Speaker 4: So now it's time to go out and gather up
Speaker 4: all of this talent that's waiting around here on the
Speaker 4: trees and to add to it now that we feel
Speaker 4: good and that we can be more competitive.
Speaker 3: It's not he says, that's not realistic.
Speaker 4: What's realistic is that if we see an opportunity and
Speaker 4: we are in as good as shape as we've been
Speaker 4: in years with draft picks, with financial and our salary cap,
Speaker 4: we're in as good as shape as we've ever been.
Speaker 4: If we see a way to improve our team with
Speaker 4: a player that makes sense today, this year, next year
Speaker 4: to entertain it, we can look at it.
Speaker 7: I'm still not on the train of making a trade, man,
Speaker 7: I'm not on thatatural because I still don't think this
Speaker 7: defense is one piece of way.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 7: I know we can't talk about guys on of the
Speaker 7: squads and everything, but unless you're getting a big time
Speaker 7: player that can go out there and wreck havoc similar
Speaker 7: to a you know, Micah Parson is one of those
Speaker 7: top three pass rushers in the league.
Speaker 3: Okay, But other than that, I just I don't.
Speaker 7: I just think it would be a waste to throw
Speaker 7: one of these first rounders away when you're more than
Speaker 7: just one piece of way.
Speaker 3: That's just just just me.
Speaker 6: No, I agree with you too, and I think Jerry
Speaker 6: agrees with you that whole statement, to be honest with
Speaker 6: just not being messy. But I look, you feel like
Speaker 6: he was taking a shot at.
Speaker 5: The Eagles because that's what they do. That's been their model.
Speaker 6: Like they've been getting talent as much as they can
Speaker 6: and thinking, oh, it's one player away, one plug away,
Speaker 6: and it hasn't. It hasn't been their model. And for
Speaker 6: you to go in there and do that, you're not
Speaker 6: one player away. And with everything going the way that
Speaker 6: it is right now, I'd be a little nervous of
Speaker 6: bringing somebody in that you don't know about that. Like you,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of things that come with taking the trade,
Speaker 6: and when you trade for these people, you're not only
Speaker 6: trading for the talent, you're trading for the person now
Speaker 6: and what's going on and the personality. We know this
Speaker 6: is already a big personality locker room you got a
Speaker 6: lot of things going on, you're still trying to fix it,
Speaker 6: and so with the wrong personality, you could potentially mess
Speaker 6: up everything that you just did. So I'm like him,
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna just because everything looking good right now.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, let's go get this one player and do that,
Speaker 5: because that's when.
Speaker 3: You make them. And what he said, what would make
Speaker 3: that player want to leave?
Speaker 8: So we already know that he's talking about a player
Speaker 8: that's probably a face of an organization somewhere else, And
Speaker 8: what would make that player actually want to leave? Now
Speaker 8: I could see and just hear me out. You got
Speaker 8: an opportunity and and and this is.
Speaker 3: What Jerry is talking about. So you get a opportunity
Speaker 3: to go out there and get a certain.
Speaker 8: Bad say, you get an opportunity to go get former
Speaker 8: defensive player.
Speaker 3: Of the year, all right, something like that.
Speaker 8: Okay, And then with that, even though that's so far
Speaker 8: from being one player away, that one player can take
Speaker 8: away one side of the field, and we know what
Speaker 8: that can do with the secondary that's hurting now barring that,
Speaker 8: that ain't the situation. Why, like we're talking about, why,
Speaker 8: why go out there and do it if you don't
Speaker 8: have to do it right now, say those draft picks
Speaker 8: do something good, because like eventually you have you have
Speaker 8: picks to go out there and change the face of
Speaker 8: the franchise going forward, you do.
Speaker 6: And you can do that with picking in the draft.
Speaker 6: And like you said, he basically just said, Hey, I
Speaker 6: like what we do here the way that we've been
Speaker 6: picking up. I'm gonna hit on one of these big picks.
Speaker 6: But I think we're failing to realize, like you said,
Speaker 6: the personality thing, like when you bring in those guys,
Speaker 6: you got to account for the personality that's there, and
Speaker 6: you got to account for the personality that's.
Speaker 5: Here from coaches to players alone.
Speaker 6: And like you said, he basically just told you if
Speaker 6: it don't, if it ain't something that just we really need,
Speaker 6: like that's gonna mesh.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not going to force it to mesh.
Speaker 3: How about I don't believe a whole lot of what
Speaker 3: doming to it. I don't believe it. So you think
Speaker 3: this like you're expecting the trade.
Speaker 5: Here longer than us.
Speaker 4: If somebody comes to him with something that he can
Speaker 4: take to his son and Shoddy, they say, hey, what
Speaker 4: about this, like Amari Cooper, then they made the move
Speaker 4: but how many times does that really happen where there's
Speaker 4: a player in the knee and it actually fits.
Speaker 3: It's rare. It's rare.
Speaker 4: So Jerry being Jerry, if it's something that fits me,
Speaker 4: Charles Haley like he did one time, Hey, I'll look
Speaker 4: into it, but I don't see it personally. I don't
Speaker 4: see it coming. And for what they could need, I
Speaker 4: don't see any team right now saying hey, man, go
Speaker 4: give us this. That's just me because by the way,
Speaker 4: let's say you do want to get a one for
Speaker 4: the Cowboys, which I would not be giving up.
Speaker 3: You're not getting theirs.
Speaker 4: You're going to get the Green Bay pick, which means
Speaker 4: you're going to get something looks likely at the end
Speaker 4: of the first round. And with some of these names,
Speaker 4: I hear people will throw out there when you considered
Speaker 4: some of the money that's there, I'm darn Su're not
Speaker 4: giving up a one. You may get a two, but
Speaker 4: I'm not giving you a dog on one. One's come
Speaker 4: with five years of control and costs. So those things
Speaker 4: are going to be worth more than what some of
Speaker 4: these folks around here thinking, because there is no quick
Speaker 4: fix here, all right. I just checked and look at
Speaker 4: the standings here.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, see B, you got them standards. I went
Speaker 3: seventy three last week.
Speaker 5: Apparently seventy three.
Speaker 3: No, where'd you go last night? He went won and
Speaker 3: you went one and one last night?
Speaker 4: I took Detroit thirty one, twenty nine at Seattle seventy ten. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so he and Trey and I we wote were perfect.
Speaker 4: Last night you went over.
Speaker 3: I was over. So you dropped the green drop. So
Speaker 3: you went to six and four this week?
Speaker 6: Oh oh you ain't. No, no, no, no, I mean
Speaker 6: I know. I told you what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: You slow creeping it up? See B, you got them
Speaker 3: overall standards for us back there. Yeah, Church, you're in
Speaker 3: the lead. Thirty one and twenty three, thirty one, that's
Speaker 3: that's the day. Take me to bake.
Speaker 2: Twenty nine and twenty five would be NEWI I'm up
Speaker 2: too on New twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Twenty six would be you forgot man Anthony sing around?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry?
Speaker 2: Oh you you, And then twenty three and thirty one
Speaker 2: would be your boy Demonta.
Speaker 3: Hey, what was new? Twenty nine, twenty nine and twenty five.
Speaker 7: Y'all boys got yeah about.
Speaker 3: I was from catching I went from sixteen to jumping
Speaker 3: up now.
Speaker 5: So, like I said, just a little slow.
Speaker 3: Who were going?
Speaker 5: What you want on your head?
Speaker 3: What would you?
Speaker 5: What'd you say?
Speaker 3: I was twenty three and twenty thirty one. From twenty
Speaker 3: three and thirty one, You're not on my head.
Speaker 5: I'm like six games.
Speaker 6: Sorry, you know you know I'm good on Thursdays now
Speaker 6: Thursday Monday.
Speaker 8: So then I'm on everybody head then, because he only
Speaker 8: thirty one twenty nine, I'm.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm out the gate, try line, I'm over there.
Speaker 3: Come on, y'all, y'all got this.
Speaker 7: We got this fall apart, fall apart.
Speaker 5: Don't let me catch one person.
Speaker 4: Last place New So from here on out, you picking
Speaker 4: first all the game since you in last.
Speaker 5: We let's do that. Because that's why I be messing up.
Speaker 6: I'll be listening to y'all sometimes and trying to opposite.
Speaker 3: Listen to your boy, because when you.
Speaker 4: Get into the deep last night, this man was right
Speaker 4: there about to go with the Seahawks.
Speaker 3: I can't believe. I can't believe you went for that.
Speaker 8: I was like, no, that's like when I wanted to
Speaker 8: trade and and and and what's his name?
Speaker 3: Give is one of my favorite running backs in the league.
Speaker 3: Yesterday told you shout out to the fantasy on that one.
Speaker 3: That was crazy.
Speaker 4: By the way, Clinton claims he'll tweeted out that Tank
Speaker 4: Lawrence is having some fun and he's finally playing with
Speaker 4: some dogs.
Speaker 6: Bro, what you the pot is this? I'm starting to
Speaker 6: think this is an old maga thing.
Speaker 3: That said that.
Speaker 6: Right, it's his old mega frat brother and they always
Speaker 6: started to stand.
Speaker 3: He staring the pot.
Speaker 6: Why did you even have to do that. Let him
Speaker 6: get his money, get paid and go over there.
Speaker 5: And have fun.
Speaker 3: Say he finally playing with some dog.
Speaker 6: So my dog, Todd Crawford, one of his best friends
Speaker 6: with the dog man, I might not play with you
Speaker 6: that loan, but hey, I was here. I'm a dog,
Speaker 6: so I take offense with whatever you say. Bro, No,
Speaker 6: you ain't.
Speaker 3: Gonna see cross like with some dogs.
Speaker 6: What you're talking about, Alfred Mores was a dog man.
Speaker 6: Get out of here, bro, dogs on your team. Bro,
Speaker 6: don't disrespect your people like that.
Speaker 8: Said buckle up man Rico talked about Rico talked about
Speaker 8: the organization without talking about the organization.
Speaker 3: Up he was, he was, and they didn't. He was saying.
Speaker 5: You're saying the law was the only dog on that team.
Speaker 3: He said wasn't He wasn't the dog either, So.
Speaker 5: I mean that go for everybody there.
Speaker 6: I feel like, Bro, it's just it's like my mom
Speaker 6: said back in the day, if you ain't got nothing
Speaker 6: good to say that, don't said why are you still
Speaker 6: talking about your ex?
Speaker 5: And you over here in a whole nother situation. You
Speaker 5: didnet got you some money? You over there?
Speaker 6: They yeah, play all you're fighting for something over there
Speaker 6: with Sammy d like you, why are you? It gives
Speaker 6: by his remorse, it gives a little bit better, like
Speaker 6: stop taking the cheese, brother.
Speaker 3: But it's just, man, he only got one. You only
Speaker 3: got one place to compare it.
Speaker 6: So y'all, So y'all saying he didn't have no dogs
Speaker 6: on this team, y'all think his statement was correct my
Speaker 6: last year.
Speaker 3: So actually, let me get it. I want to.
Speaker 4: D law is loving playing on this Seattle defense. He
Speaker 4: got a bunch of dogs playing alongside of him for
Speaker 4: the first time.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 8: But see whenever didn't say that though, don't got something,
Speaker 8: Clarence something said to the Omega, You're.
Speaker 6: Right, heroes, I'm not going none of that. But I'm
Speaker 6: gonna say I'm gonna say it in this sense. Did
Speaker 6: y'all see the interview with the the dB from Texas.
Speaker 6: They asked them. They said, hey, man, you're doing good.
Speaker 6: Shark Kendricks said, hey, the special teams in the decens who.
Speaker 3: Hear about you? Man? It is?
Speaker 5: It is? And so what and so the task was that?
Speaker 5: Man said, hey, it takes all three phases. Bro.
Speaker 3: He didn't.
Speaker 5: Let nobody get slammed it, like, why are you doing that?
Speaker 5: Like I'm not stay on task.
Speaker 3: Over here.
Speaker 5: Let it's Texas, It's.
Speaker 6: Texas, it's football players, okay, whatever.
Speaker 3: So he had.
Speaker 5: It's crazy. It's crazy. How y'all y'all want to.
Speaker 3: Lark making all these apologies? Were all doing some stuff
Speaker 3: I forgot. He had y'all y'all.
Speaker 6: Over there, make a miss manside trade.
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