WEBVTT - Soleil Moon Frye

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<v Speaker 1>Ask to be sure, ask the questions, ask the important,

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<v Speaker 1>ask them important questions, and have conversations. Let's have conversations

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<v Speaker 1>as families, questions with each other. It's so important. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>I am so let Moonfry and I am so humbled

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<v Speaker 1>and honored to be here today with Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back everybody. If you're hearing my voice, that means

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<v Speaker 2>you're listening to the podcast. I like to call off

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<v Speaker 2>the beat and I am your host, Brian Baumgartner, my

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<v Speaker 2>guest today. Well, it may cause a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a generational divide of sorts with you listeners. For me,

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<v Speaker 2>people around about my age, let's just call it gen X.

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<v Speaker 2>She is an icon of nineteen eighties television. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Punky Brewster herself. Solei Moonfry is on the show today. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't know Punky, who doesn't know everybody knows Punky?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I right? It was an absolute smash hit, a

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<v Speaker 2>total classic, and they even made a reboot a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago. Now, if you're a bit younger than me,

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<v Speaker 2>you may not have seen or know that much about Punky.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine. Millennials, you may have watched a show called

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<v Speaker 2>Sabrina The Teenage Witch on TGIF Friday Nights. Well, Soley

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<v Speaker 2>was there playing Sabrina's college roommate Roxy or if you're

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<v Speaker 2>gen Z or maybe Jen Alfa. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you would listen to this. She is the voice of

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<v Speaker 2>Jade in the Brats cartoons or Zoe on Proud Family.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're anyone of any age, I hope that you

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<v Speaker 2>have seen her relatively new documentary kid ninety, where she

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<v Speaker 2>documents her early life of stardom and everything that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a fascinating watch. Basically, what I'm saying is this,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot to choose from. And on top of

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<v Speaker 2>her acting career that spans literal generations, she's a mother

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<v Speaker 2>of four. She also works with GSK and the Ask

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<v Speaker 2>to Be Sure campaign to help spread awareness about meningitis

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<v Speaker 2>B and the meningitis B vaccination. Let's talk to her

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<v Speaker 2>about all of that right now here. She is the

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<v Speaker 2>utterly delightful solet moonfry, Bubble and Squeak I love it,

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<v Speaker 2>Bubble and Squeakna Bubble and Squeaker cook.

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<v Speaker 1>Get every mole lift over from the night before.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Sile, how are you? Hi? How are you? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I'm better now talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I'm so happy to be talking.

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<v Speaker 2>To you me as well. Now we have to get

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<v Speaker 2>this out of the way. This is like the traditional

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood I don't know, six degrees of separation. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember us meeting? Tell me remind me when my memory

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<v Speaker 2>of it is so so scattered. We have been discussing

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<v Speaker 2>this through our mutual friend, which we'll talk about in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute. I'm not a Hollywood Hills house party guy

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Oh boy, anything that starts with Hollywood Hills house

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<v Speaker 1>party is uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was there. It had to have been some

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<v Speaker 2>like Emmy or some awards adjacent. There was a band,

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<v Speaker 2>There was Demi Moore dancing a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up talking to a long time to Andy

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<v Speaker 2>Roddick and Brooklyn Decker and you and I met outside

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<v Speaker 2>at a food truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I love a food truck.

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<v Speaker 2>Other than that, I don't know why I was there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who I was with. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>anything about it. But anyway, we've met. So it's good

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<v Speaker 2>to see you again, basically basically.

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<v Speaker 1>So nice to connect again. Um, what kind of food

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<v Speaker 1>truck it was?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't even remember whose party it was. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't remember. I don't remember why, or who

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. It was more like official, It wasn't like red.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had a huge kind heart at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>You did, and from what I hear about you, you

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<v Speaker 2>always do. We have been connected by my well in

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<v Speaker 2>relative terms, new friends doctor Shaka Gilla who who Well,

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<v Speaker 2>she's my pediatrician.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Saka is one of my favorite people in the

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<v Speaker 1>world and one of my best friends since I was

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen years old, and we met at a UB forty concert.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you serious it goes back that long?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's I mean, literally, it goes back that long.

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<v Speaker 1>And she and her sister have been such an important

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<v Speaker 1>part of my life, my whole life and my kids' lives,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're just amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. I did not know it had been that long.

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<v Speaker 2>But she started telling me about this thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have been kind of working on together. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>Ask to Be Sure campaign, which is about bringing awareness

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<v Speaker 2>to meningitis, the meningitis B vaccine. Shaka was telling me

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<v Speaker 2>how important this is. Tell me how how you got

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<v Speaker 2>involved with this campaign? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I learned about meningitis B and I

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea, you know. I had the assumption,

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<v Speaker 1>like so many people, that when the kids are younger,

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<v Speaker 1>they get vaccinated for it. And what I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>was meningitis BE was totally different. And it was right

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<v Speaker 1>around the time that my daughter Poet turned sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course, as a mother, I want to do everything

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<v Speaker 1>I can to help protect my kids. Uh So I

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<v Speaker 1>was really surprised to find out about it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>learned so much through the process. Of course, I reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to one of my best friends, being Shaka, and

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<v Speaker 1>learned so much about how you know, meningitis is an

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<v Speaker 1>uncommon but serious illness and that it can be potentially fatal.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went on this whole journey to ask to

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<v Speaker 1>be sure and it has been such a learning experience

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<v Speaker 1>and just really an amazingly eye opening experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're talking to someone who is not very specifically

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<v Speaker 2>not a doctor, but I remember I remember, like when

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<v Speaker 2>I was a kid, people getting meningitis and this was

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<v Speaker 2>a very serious thing. But meningitis B is slightly different, right, and.

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<v Speaker 1>People are so unaware of it because I think so

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<v Speaker 1>many people think it's something that kids, you know, get

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<v Speaker 1>vaccinated for when they're younger, but really it does affect

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen to twenty three year olds especially, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>kids are going out into college, living in closer you know, areas,

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<v Speaker 1>sharing things, you know, all of that. And so really

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<v Speaker 1>for me, this has been a journey of asking questions

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<v Speaker 1>and being able to talk to, you know, my pediatrician

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<v Speaker 1>and having this conversation. I think it's important for us

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<v Speaker 1>to have conversations and to never be afraid to ask,

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<v Speaker 1>to be short, to never be afraid to ask your doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to the pediatrician, and such a learning experience

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<v Speaker 1>that I was really unaware of. And so it has

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<v Speaker 1>been quite the journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year, you partnered with GSK and Lifetime and actually

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<v Speaker 2>made a short film, which is is not something uncommon

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<v Speaker 2>for you. We're going to talk about a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>called I Never Thought to Ask a Mom's Quest for Answers,

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<v Speaker 2>which was really about educating other moms about meningitis. Be

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<v Speaker 2>was this your idea?

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<v Speaker 1>It was such an incredible experience, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>really holistic, and we teamed up with Lifetime and of

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<v Speaker 1>course GSK, and it was amazing. My dear friend, one

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<v Speaker 1>of my best friends, Melissa Joan Hart, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the journey together as well as Shaka,

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<v Speaker 1>and so really it was coming from such an authentic place,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it was such an amazing experience to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of. And you know, it's so incredible

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<v Speaker 1>to see how also this whole experience inspired, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my own kids and my daughter Poet to have an

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<v Speaker 1>interest in public health going forward in life. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it has all come from a really authentic place.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think authenticity is so important and being able

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<v Speaker 1>to these conversations, it is so important, and so when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the documentary, it really is. You know, Melissa

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<v Speaker 1>is one of my best friends, Shaka doctor you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know doctor Shaka. I mean, she is one of

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<v Speaker 1>my lifelong friends. So these are real conversations. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was really so wonderful to team up with GSK on

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<v Speaker 1>this and this Has to Be Sure campaign and to

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<v Speaker 1>meet the incredible survivors and families who have lost their children,

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<v Speaker 1>and the way in which they have touched my heart

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<v Speaker 1>and left such a blasting effect on our lives has

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<v Speaker 1>been so profound.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you, Good for you, I mean you you

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<v Speaker 2>brought up the word authentic. I say this all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>like work that is borne out of something that is

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<v Speaker 2>organic and true for you. Is just always better. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just always better, always well.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, everyone has different perspectives in life, right and comes

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<v Speaker 1>from different experiences. It's so important to have conversations and

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<v Speaker 1>to have the courage to have conversations. You know when

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<v Speaker 1>when speaking with these incredible mothers who had lost their children,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you hear about intuition, you hear about mother's instincts,

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<v Speaker 1>you hear about all of these these things parents, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having instincts, And I think so often it's so important

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to that inner voice and to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to really ask those important questions in all areas of

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<v Speaker 1>our lives because we are our children's advocates.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, you bring up an interesting point. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I started in the theater, and you know, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that that I always talked about was that

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<v Speaker 2>art shouldn't be preachy. That really the central, the central

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<v Speaker 2>focus of art in and of itself should be asking questions.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's really what that's really what I love about this.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, I feel like no one should

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<v Speaker 2>be able to argue. You're not preaching, you're not saying

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<v Speaker 2>do this, You're saying, ask questions. Educate yourself, because if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know, you can't do anything about it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Ask to be sure, ask the questions, ask the

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<v Speaker 1>important ask the important questions, and have conversations. Let's have

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<v Speaker 1>conversations as families ends with each other. It's so important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, your career is incredible, the diver the diverse projects

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<v Speaker 2>that you've done. You're an author, You're a photographer. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask you about being a cinematographer. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you should be if you never thought about that

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<v Speaker 2>before you started in a well, in a Hollywood family

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<v Speaker 2>is that I hate that word, but I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know what to say. A family in the entertainment business.

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<v Speaker 2>Your dad was an actor, your mom was an agent

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<v Speaker 2>and a case.

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<v Speaker 1>One was actually a food artist. She was she was

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<v Speaker 1>a food artist. Yes, so she yes, food She was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>My My family incredible, full of artists and activists, and

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<v Speaker 1>so activism is always run in our blood and just

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible family of artists. And I started acting very

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<v Speaker 1>very young. I grew up watching my brothers and my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was so shy. I actually didn't talk till

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<v Speaker 1>I was three. And then once I started I didn't stop,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think acting really helped bring me out of

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<v Speaker 1>my shell. And I started acting at five and started

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<v Speaker 1>Punky at seven, and just wow, what a journey. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just an incredible, incredible journey.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. One of the things that I like to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on here is moments that sort of shaped and

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<v Speaker 2>change a person that maybe maybe was unexpected early on.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it sounds like you're in this environment. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't speak to the age of three, that's crazy. Your

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<v Speaker 2>family is around all these people. I mean I read

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<v Speaker 2>Muhammad Ali's build a Cherry Coke on you, Yes, you kid,

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<v Speaker 2>And my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a golden glove boxer, so it was really that

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<v Speaker 1>was quite the highlight.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh seriously, so like he was he boxing with him

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<v Speaker 2>or in the same jail.

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<v Speaker 1>So my dad was a golden glove boxer. So meeting

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<v Speaker 1>Muhammad Ali was like, you know, huge for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>he had a white suit on, I believe, and my

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<v Speaker 1>cherry coke went flying out of my hand and all

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<v Speaker 1>over him, and he was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>When did you decide, Okay, well, acting is kind of fun,

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<v Speaker 2>it's getting me out of my shell, but that this

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<v Speaker 2>was something that you wanted to do, was this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure it was encouraged at least. Was it pushed by

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<v Speaker 2>your parents? Was this something that you were driven to

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<v Speaker 2>do on your own at such an incredibly young age.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom actually thought I was so shy that she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that I would ever, you know, like speak

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<v Speaker 1>when I went in to try it out. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was something that was so close to my heart. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I loved it. It was playing make believe, and

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<v Speaker 1>we really did always have our childhoods as well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>growing up on Punky. It was it was such a wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>vibrant experience, you know, we were riding around in scooters

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<v Speaker 1>and pogo sticks and playing you know, for me, acting

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<v Speaker 1>was always playing make believe, you know, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was really fortunate that it was something that

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<v Speaker 1>I really, you know, loved and wanted to do. And

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<v Speaker 1>so my experience, you know, although I definitely had rollercoasters

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<v Speaker 1>of emotions, and I had an incredibly beautiful, full life,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was moments of insecurity and pain and all

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that come along with it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but overall, I really have always held acting so close

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<v Speaker 1>to my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of your early jobs, which there's a point

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<v Speaker 2>to this Missing Children, a mother's Story, Invitation to Hell?

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<v Speaker 2>Who will love my children? It sounds like you started

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<v Speaker 2>off with some pretty damn dark material. Did you feel

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable because it was make believe? And I say this like.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter now it's a great question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my daughter now, who's eight, nothing scares her, which

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting, like very she could not be more sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean she's like doing doodle sketches of

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<v Speaker 2>like horrible monsters and it's like, isn't this cool? Dad?

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<v Speaker 2>When you're there, you have to be aware that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not real. But are you getting support there on set

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<v Speaker 2>to help you tell this story?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we could have a whole conversation at some point

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<v Speaker 1>around the physics and matrix of all that is very really,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is fascinating. Ultimately, I was working with such

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<v Speaker 1>incredible people and of course had an amazing foundation within

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<v Speaker 1>my own family. I was working with Anne Margaret and

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor Winningham were the two women that played you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my mother and Mayor and one and Ann Margaret and another,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know the colorizy of people that I was

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<v Speaker 1>working with. And George Gains, you know with Punky, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>his kindness and love just so exuberant. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>so fortunate to work with some of the greatest people

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<v Speaker 1>ever and they were so nurturing. Jeff Goldbloom, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>played my fallow something. I mean, just the caliber of

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<v Speaker 1>people and that kindness. You know, there are these moments

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<v Speaker 1>in time. For example, Andy Gibb, Oh my gosh, one

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<v Speaker 1>of my biggest crushes of all time, right, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the amount of time that we spent together, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get emotional talking about it. But the impact that

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<v Speaker 1>people have in our lives last forever, and so ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>the kindness that I was shown and the ways in

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<v Speaker 1>which I was treated as a human being and really

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<v Speaker 1>seen and heard, that has stuck with me so much.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it is so important, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you have these experiences, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>certainly something when we went on with Punky that was

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<v Speaker 1>so important to me, is how we treat each other

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<v Speaker 1>because it makes such a difference. And I loved scary movies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had big brothers, like I was obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with scary movies. So working with Wes Crave, you know,

0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.040
<v Speaker 1>working with Wes Craven, it was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know, it was a dream come true.

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<v Speaker 1>So really, I think it comes down to that point

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<v Speaker 1>around people, you know, and how we touch each other's

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<v Speaker 1>lives and this tapestry. And I think sometimes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people don't realize the impact they have on others, and

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<v Speaker 1>they can have very different experiences and they can be

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<v Speaker 1>very painful, and I think, you know, it's a real juxtaposition,

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<v Speaker 1>like you hear in show business that you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>parents that are amazing and loving and wonderful and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure their kids have a really healthy home life, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's other extremes, you know, so and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you can also be as loving as possible and give

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<v Speaker 1>your kids everything that they could ever imagined, and still

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<v Speaker 1>people sometimes get lost, you know. So it interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>anyone anytime people bring up you know, downfalls and trials

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<v Speaker 1>and tribulations, I always look at it and go, you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many deer people that I love that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't always make it out, you know, in the best way,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's so many that have and that have

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<v Speaker 1>such flourishing, beautiful lives. And so, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like with anything you know in life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've talked to a lot of people here,

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<v Speaker 2>many of whom like yourself who started much younger, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of want to hear your perspective on this.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of already answered the question, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you think about kids and kids' activities, right, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>usually like the soccer team, right, or you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>youth theater or whatever. You know, there is something about

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<v Speaker 2>your experience. Thankfully you are with a lot of very positive, loving,

0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:14.600
<v Speaker 2>nurturing people. But just aside from even that, the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to go at such a young age and have your ensemble,

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<v Speaker 2>have your world be people who are so diverse in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of age and experience and as long as they're good.

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<v Speaker 2>What a gift that is early on, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not with the six and seven year old soccer teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that there's anything wrong with that, my daughter does

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<v Speaker 2>that too, but having that experience of having you know,

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<v Speaker 2>older people who, if they're if they're giving and nurturing,

0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.359
<v Speaker 2>that are mentoring you and helping you and helping you

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<v Speaker 2>to see not just the work but the world in

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<v Speaker 2>a new way. For me, that's always been a valuable gift,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was this was not a part of my reality.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you're so spot on with that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think people come into this world in their unique ways.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids are all so uniquely different, right, It's so

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating to me that you could be born into this.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Poet is just like her activism, her

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<v Speaker 1>heart for activism, her just mind blowing jagger, her filmmaking,

0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:26.160
<v Speaker 1>her inspiration, her heart. Lyric, I mean, he is a comedian.

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<v Speaker 1>He is like literally, he's like a ninety year old

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<v Speaker 1>man in a ten year old body. You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>youngest self, he's you know, he's obsessed with basketball, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a big heart. They each have such big hearts.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, my son, Lyric, he gets, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on a nightly basis, Hey can I do my comedy?

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:44.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, and he's like ready to get up right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like he's a performer and he was born

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<v Speaker 1>that way and he is who he is. And I

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<v Speaker 1>want to encourage that, you know, And I really want

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<v Speaker 1>my children to be able to be who they want

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And I think one of the greatest things

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<v Speaker 1>that we can do in life, one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>gifts is to inspire our kids to follow their passions,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and to do it with kindness and heart.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the two of the biggest lessons I can

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<v Speaker 1>pass on to my kids is like, you know, find

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<v Speaker 1>that thing that you're passionate about, find what it is

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<v Speaker 1>that inspires you and drives you each and every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and then go out and also help make a difference

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. You know, help make a difference. Be kind,

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<v Speaker 1>grow up, be kind, be kind in this moment, be

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<v Speaker 1>kind in the future, and make a difference. Those are so,

0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, those are the things that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>pass on self. Love like it all starts within, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so anyway, so so my point being that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they are who they are, right, and so I try

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<v Speaker 1>to encourage it and also encourage the education and all

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<v Speaker 1>the different things to try to help, you know, them

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<v Speaker 1>be as well rounded as possible. And at the same

0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:05.679
<v Speaker 1>time they're their own people. And so right, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>my best here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you're such a good mom. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>everything you're saying I love. I don't have to take

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<v Speaker 2>notes because I have a recording of this, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just love everything that you're saying. You mentioned it a

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<v Speaker 2>few times. We're not going to go through Punky Brewster

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<v Speaker 2>minute by minute, but there were a couple of stats

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 2>that I looked at, and I was more curious about

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:32.520
<v Speaker 2>your psychology as a seven year old Punky Brewster. Three

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<v Speaker 2>thousand young girls tried out, including five hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles alone, which is acounding.

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<v Speaker 1>It may have been even more than that. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure what it's like, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like those were the ones reported, but you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure it was happening even more. Do you remember how

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<v Speaker 2>many auditions? Was it like fifty?

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot and then there was a story

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, when I went in for one of

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the final auditions, someone did say they

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<v Speaker 1>had already gotten it. So I think my mom was like, Okay,

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>let's head out. I was like, I'm still going in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It was a great deal of competition out there,

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<v Speaker 1>But I just I connected to Punky so much. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be really honest. You know, she was my superpower,

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<v Speaker 1>my superhero, you know, and she still is. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>so wild because it makes me emotional just thinking about it,

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 1>because through my best moments, through my most difficult moments,

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like she's like that superhero that like pulls me

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<v Speaker 1>through it, you know, and so it's why I have

0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:46.560
<v Speaker 1>such an affinity, you know, and I think, like I'm

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 1>so I'm in such gratitude. Like any time anywhere that

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 1>someone says what Punky means to them, it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the greatest gift in the world, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest gifts in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And so for me, I say that all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so crazy as a.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom, you know, as at the time, you know, my

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.959
<v Speaker 1>mom was a single mom raising us, and you know,

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>my dad and she stayed friends, but they weren't together,

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, and all those things. And I think through

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Punky like she became you know, my escape into this

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:25.400
<v Speaker 1>superhero part of ourselves and gave me so much courage,

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and still does today. I mean, in

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the last years, you know, with my family and all

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>of the different you know, trials and tribulations that we

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<v Speaker 1>went through, Like I totally have leaned into Punky. You know,

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Punky is that super power for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Usually you have a you know, a show

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<v Speaker 2>or a movie and they start auditioning and you realize

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<v Speaker 2>it's very important for the network and the studio, and

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<v Speaker 2>you auditioned more and more it sounds like pretty early

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<v Speaker 2>on because I was going to ask, at what moment

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<v Speaker 2>was it like, no, this is mine? Like this is

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<v Speaker 2>me pretty early.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like from the moment that, like, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't thought of it in that way really necessarily

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>for so long, but like, there was never a moment

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>that Punky didn't feel like a part of me, you

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, she was me, I

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.880
<v Speaker 1>was her, like it just it was so interconnected. And

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because now years later, as I've been so

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<v Speaker 1>grateful to work with incredible foster youth at different times

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, I realized, you know, my mom was a

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.639
<v Speaker 1>foster youth, and so I think there's like, you know,

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>something around the generational you know, patterns that connect us

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 1>through our DNA lines, and perhaps there was a part

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.719
<v Speaker 1>of that that I've actually been thinking about now at

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 1>this stage in life, as I reflect, I'm like, oh,

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>that's so fascinating, Like my mom was in a youth

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<v Speaker 1>home at an early age because she had lost her mom,

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and it's so interesting because for so

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 1>many years that wasn't something that I really thought about,

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 1>but I can understand the parallels. You know what I

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>mean in a deeper way now, and so I think

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that it makes a lot of sense that it always

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>felt like such a part of me and so much

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 1>of the heart of what I felt.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned George Gaines. I freaking loved George Gaines. I mean,

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 2>I loved George Gaines and his performance at Tootsie is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just it's outstanding. It's so nice for

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<v Speaker 2>me to hear that he because I read somewhere else

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 2>you've said nice things about him that you considered him

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 2>your acting mentor that he was giving to you behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you know, he he always treated me, you know,

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:51.639
<v Speaker 1>as an equal, and so to have the career that

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 1>he had and to show up in that way where

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.400
<v Speaker 1>he listened and he was engaged and he was kind

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and here you were running wild.

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I remember him giving me these beautiful, you know, leather

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>diaries from the time I was really young, and he

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 1>knew I loved to write, and you know, that kindness,

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>that heart, I mean, it just it sticks with you forever.

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 2>Punky becomes well, to say it becomes huge is like

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 2>an understatement. The show and specifically you become a pop

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 2>culture phenomenon. Up here, here, Here were some of the

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 2>here were some of the things we dug up. Appearing

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 2>in parades, Okay, getting thousands of letters from fans a week,

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 2>judging puppies for a dog food company. Well, really you

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:45.719
<v Speaker 2>remember that, leading anti drug marches and becoming involved with

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Just Say No campaign, which ties into you talking about

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>wanting to get back and be an activist as well

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 2>as an artist. You know, it sounds like you loved

0:27:55.560 --> 0:28:00.360
<v Speaker 2>the work. How did your young brain deal at that

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 2>time with all of that?

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, so much of it was such

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>an adventure, Like I I how amazing to be able

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>to go to the White House, into the Eastering role

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and travel.

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was awesome.

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's just so many highlights throughout life, you

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 1>know that have been so colorful and amazing. And also,

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's interesting. My best friend Torri has been

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>my best friend since I was two years old, and

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>so many of these memories are actually with she and

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I going to these places. So my mom would do

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 1>this thing where it was like.

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Your plus one, Yeah you're plus one your.

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Best friend, and so yes, so we traveled all over

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the world together and be like here we go to

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>New York and here and there. So that quality of

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>like of having you know, that essence of childhood as well.

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>It was so amazing because it was such a full life.

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>You know. We went to New York and would be like, Okay,

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking the girls to like the nearest you know,

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the nearest place where there's a fair going on.

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>So it really was so fun. And then every summer

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I went to summer camp. I went to summer camp

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>from the time I was five to seventeen. I went

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>back to become a counselor, like and I went to

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the same camp like I pretended to get in. Yeah,

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and so I went to this camp, Cottontown Ranch. I

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>went there my whole life. So I really did have

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>these childhood experiences. And there was a great deal of

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>innocence there. And even with my friends that I grew

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>up with that were in the business, there was a

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>great deal of innocence for so many of us. And

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>just the joy and the playing and having fun and

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>hanging out. And of course we went on to have

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>wilder times, but really there was a great deal of

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>love and innocence around us and childhood and play and yeah,

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it was just it was so much fun.

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I pitched a show one time, I want to talk.

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 2>I want to Talk to Torri. At some point nobody

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 2>bought it. It was like it was literally my own

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 2>family destination. But I maintained I'm steadfast and its ability

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>that the show it was called plus one, and so

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 2>it would the idea.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>It was really a plus one let's get real.

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Wait, sit again, But I was.

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Really her plus one. Let's get real, because I mean,

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the gift that shocks me is, oh, my goodness, the best.

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Well that's very generous, no, but I mean just that

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 2>experience of watching and being a part of I don't know,

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I think.

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, we actually have these hard tarts. We talk,

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, every day, however, many times a day, and

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, we talk about just like what it is

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>when you want each other to win, and friendships and

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>family where it's like, I mean, I look at the

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>people in my life and I'm so blessed to have

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>such a beautiful family and such incredible friends. And it's

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 1>interesting as I've gotten older, you know, as it's gotten

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>more expansive. Also, I feel like my my, my, my crew,

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, is pretty intimate. You know, the people that

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I really that's most and love most, but there's something

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that we have where it's like I just it's like

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to see the people I love succeed, you know,

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and I want to be talking about love and life

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and joy and how we're making the world better and

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, all of those things. I'm so grateful for that.

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're eleven or twelve years of age and

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 2>the show ends, you're feeling at that time about that journey?

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Are you ready for it to end and move on

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 2>to other things?

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I was ready for like the next chapter, which was exciting.

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I love Punky so much. I went on to do

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.479
<v Speaker 1>a pilot and then you know, the pilot didn't go

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>and then I started developing rapidly, you know, which we

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>explore in the documentary Kid ninety for sure. And yes,

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>what was really interesting and really took a lot to

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>digest was once I started going through puberty and all

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of that and and just this the insecurities that come

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>along with being a tween teen and then just having

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>them magnified so much so I would say those teen

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>years were definitely some of my most insecure moments.

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.479
<v Speaker 2>Right well, I mean that makes sense, and having that

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 2>played out you know, it's hard enough to have those

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 2>years play out in your junior high school right when

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 2>now you're playing you know, it's playing out across the country.

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about I am going to talk

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>about kid ninety and just a little bit, but I

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 2>want to know your experience as a kid journalist, Like what,

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>at what point did you decide you were going to

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 2>pick up a camera and you were going to just

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 2>start filming things around you. Did you want to be

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 2>a cinematographer, were you interested in framing shots, or was

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 2>like what was the impetus at that moment to just

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 2>start filming.

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I kept a diary from the time I was about five. Okay,

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>then I got an audio recorder when I was about ten,

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and I started recording via audio, and then I dove

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>into the video camera. And I love documenting this incredible,

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>colorful world around me. And I realize now, really I

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>was a teen journalist and I thought the world around

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>me was so colorful and incredible. And I started documenting

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>our lives and I never put that camera to It

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>came everywhere with me, I carried it everywhere. I just thought, Wow,

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>what a colorful world. I think it also acted as

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a protective device when I was going through such a

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>here phase in life, because it was like, now I

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>can be behind the camera, so I can you know

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? It was like, now I'm the one

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>behind the lens. So I started filming my friends and

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>our worlds and went on to continue doing it. And ultimately,

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>when we talk about sole purpose, you know, and purpose

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>in life, that journalistic side of me, the director in me,

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>all of those elements existed. They were the tapestry of

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>those early years. And to have been able to go

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>on to continue that, it's super interesting because for many years,

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've had such an incredible life, and of

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>course I love acting and love it so much. You know,

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I tried so many different things for so many years,

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:21.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then when I went back and went

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>through all the tapes that had been sitting in tupperware

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and peeling back the layer, you know, it was like

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 1>this spark inside of me reignited and I had really

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>associated that more with youth, and it was like, oh,

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>this is my purpose, like you know, in so many ways,

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>like my children, my faith, my inner being, my relationship

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>with source, all of those elements, you know, so fundamentally

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>important the philanthropic work that I love to do, and

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>my art, the art that I get to create and

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>do is so important to me, and I feel like

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 1>it just reignited me in such a meaningful way and

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>my goodness to do what I love. I just I

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.800
<v Speaker 1>love it. And I think that's one of the reasons

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>why I was so grateful that Kid ninety connected to people,

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>because for me, it was like I wanted them to

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like it was their story too, or that you know,

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>they were able to see themselves in some way. And

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 1>I think that's one of the greatest parts about being

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a documentarian is when you can be you know, most

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>genuine and allow people to have a shared experience.

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you guys haven't seen a Kid ninety

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 2>out a couple of years ago, it is fascinating you

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 2>revisit your past, you explain why you started or what

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 2>happened when you start looking at the tapes. Leonardo DiCaprio,

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Mark Wahlberg, Charlie Sheen, Mark Paul Gosler, my neighbor now

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 2>by the way. For you as you're watching it, it's

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 2>so exciting and also like it's got to be like

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 2>for you going through it. So many years later now

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 2>in a totally different which is what I love about it,

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.800
<v Speaker 2>going through it at such a different time in your life.

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 2>You see the like you must have felt like some

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 2>awkwardness or like some like, oh my gosh, I got

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 2>that shot. That's beautiful. Oh my gosh, I can't believe

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 2>I did that or I said that or whatever. What

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 2>was the biggest thing that surprised you?

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh? The whole experience was completely life changing. It changed

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:46.760
<v Speaker 1>my entire life. The process of the documentary changed everything

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>for me in so many ways. It changed, It changed

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>so much because it was it was going back and discovering,

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, that teenage girl inside all of the dreams,

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>all of the things, all of the people, you know,

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean just I mean, it was such an exploration,

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, ultimately, I think, you know, something that was

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 1>so perfect. I mean, there were so many profound parts

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>of it. But it's so interesting because when we're in

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the moment, right, we're not always able to see or

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.919
<v Speaker 1>hear things, you know, the way that they really are.

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>And I've found this even for recent months and years, right.

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>But it was really interesting because I had never gone

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>through the videos at length, you know, I had never

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>gone through all the audios, you know, so here I

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>was like living with this treasure trove of all of

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>these memories. And I'll use this example, which is, you know,

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I love talking about love, right And And an example

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>is that I was watching this footage of myself with

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>someone who I was just crazy about as a teenager,

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>right crazy about, and I'm looking at it and I'm like,

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>am I And I now I've already gone and visited

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>them and this whole thing. And I turned to this

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.879
<v Speaker 1>incredible person who I'm editing with, and I go, am

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I trying to put in a love story here? And

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>she goes so like, do you see the way you

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>guys are looking at each other? And at this point

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>in the edit, Bay, I had watched the footage at

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>least ninety nine times, and it was the hundredth time

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.320
<v Speaker 1>that I not only saw the way I was looking

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>at that person, but the way they were looking back

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>at me. And I was like, oh, my goodness. If

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>we go through the world with these blinders on, you know,

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>so often where we aren't able to see all the

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>different perspectives, what are we missing? And in that moment,

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and again I get emotional about it. I was like,

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I have always loved people so much.

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize how much love I had back. And

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 1>it was a level of realizing the love around me

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 1>in such a deep way, you know, and the insecurities

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>of teen you know, teenage nests and teen years and

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 1>new people like you, do they not like you? You know,

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 1>all the things that stick with you. The story you

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>tell yourself, whatever you know, experiences you had, and whatever

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.839
<v Speaker 1>you know that twelve year old me told myself from

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that or your house. My house got toilet paper by

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>a group of kids that I just wanted to be

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>friends with. And what did I tell myself, you know,

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it was, you know, or the person that

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 1>picked on you or chased you down and said they were,

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:31.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, going to be you up, whatever it was.

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>And there was many of those moments, you know. But

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 1>what was it that, you know, or my development, or

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>what the world was saying about me, what my friends

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>were saying, whatever it was, it's not about them. It's

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it's that idea that like things happened for us and

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 1>not to us, you know. But it was like all

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 1>of those stories, realizing that those were just stories and

0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>that we were all going through our experiences and that

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.280
<v Speaker 1>we were all going through our pain and our trials

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and tribulations, and those insecurities started to strip away. And

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>now here I am, you know, forty years old or something,

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and to be at that stage in life and going, oh,

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>my goodness, like wow, I can see like my own

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 1>self love, I can discover my worth in another way,

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>my value. It just again it became like a superpower,

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, without you know, ego, you know about like

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 1>righteousness or any of that, but just like, oh, I

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 1>can actually feel a deeper level of love. Does that

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 1>make sense right? No, It's so easy to get wrapped

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 1>up and just pain of the past or experiences and

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>allow those to define us. And I think it was

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>for me a really important lesson in stripping all that

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.959
<v Speaker 1>away and being who and who am I today? Who

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>is the version of me today? And I want to

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 1>be my best person today? And of course we all

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>have choices and take different paths and can make mistakes

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and all those things. But it's like, how do I

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>show up in a room today?

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:18.320
<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful because it's real. So I don't want to

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 2>be reductive of this, but I do have to tell

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 2>you and I have no idea how familiar you are

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 2>with the television show at the office, but I was

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 2>struck watching it. That really what Greg Daniels was trying

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 2>to create on that show. There is a similarity. And

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 2>let me explain why it's scripted, the cameras are directed.

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 2>All of that is true. However, the idea that these

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.439
<v Speaker 2>are characters who, in our case, were filmed for ten

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:53.240
<v Speaker 2>years and never seeing the end result, never seeing how

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 2>your portrayed over that extended period of time. It's one

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 2>of the reasons Greg said, when the characters in the

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 2>show finally see this documentary that's been filmed for some

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 2>reason about a paper company for ten years, the show

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:13.800
<v Speaker 2>ends because now they adjust how they are perceived because

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 2>they see how they're perceived through another person's lens. And

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 2>so I'm not at all trying to be reductive, but

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>when I watched it, I was like, Oh my god,

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:24.919
<v Speaker 2>this is like a live, real version because so much

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 2>time passed and you have this whole new perspective as

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 2>you're watching it again, and certainly for you seeing it

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 2>again and seeing yourself from so many years ago, it

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 2>just must have been just an incredible thing.

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 1>It was so incredible and I really believe it's been

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:47.839
<v Speaker 1>fundamental in my journey and who I am today, every

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 1>minute of it, Starting from the time that I started

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>writing that dollar five years old.

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wow, I mean it's crazy. Well, your first

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 2>directorial view is at twenty two years of age, I

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 2>mean Wild Horses. You also wrote it with.

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 1>It it was actually nineteen at that time.

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 2>You were nineteen. Oh, it was twenty two when it

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:08.919
<v Speaker 2>came out.

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't it actually never came out.

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it never came out.

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 1>No, it's sitting it's sitting somewhere. We go, we gotta

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 1>go dig it out.

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Really, Yeah, I didn't know that that's a whole Well,

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 2>that's a whole other episode that you and I have

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 2>to sit up. Well, that's that's a whole other episode.

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 2>What was the impetus behind that? Again? Was that just

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.240
<v Speaker 2>an extension of wanting to be behind the camera?

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely? And I was.

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I was.

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I had gone off to school and I had this idea,

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and I came back and I was like, I want

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to make this and they were like, great, go write

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 1>it in a week and I did, which is crazy

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:45.759
<v Speaker 1>because it's something that only, you know, an eighteen year

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>olds would do. You know it right exactly, and I did,

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and it was like a blessing and it ended up,

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, we ended up making it. And then I

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>fell in love during that journey and that ended up

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>becoming the person that I was married to and having

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>four beautiful children with. And so it was just like

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 1>this incredible, wow life path. And then I did this.

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I had an amazing experience with my father who had Alzheimer's,

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and we drove a cross country and made this documentary

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Sonny Boy, which at some point I will share, but yeah,

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean just And then I love I love making

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>art and creating, and I love directing, I love producing,

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I love all of it. I love all of it.

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I love creating.

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 2>What about voiceover? I love it. I love oh I

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:37.399
<v Speaker 2>love it well.

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>And I've had such a it's so great. And I've

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 1>had the honor of being part of Proud Family for

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 1>so many years as Zoe, who is my other superpower

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:50.839
<v Speaker 1>hero that I lead in too often, and Brats Brats

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>absolutely so wild.

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I get so much joy creating characters through the voice.

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely you could just do my goodness.

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, thank you, that was nice. Uh. The reboot

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Punky Brewster happened during uh, well, this little thing some

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 2>people like to call COVID. Were you excited to revisit that?

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 1>SI thrilled. I was thrilled. And it was so special.

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And we did the pilot before COVID, and then COVID

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 1>hit and it was it was such a surreal experience.

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 1>It was Oh, Punky, I love it so much, and

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 1>really it was such a special continuation and the people

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 1>were so wonderful and the response was incredible, and really

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 1>just it was really really special and so wonderful and

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 1>just a beautiful experience that I held so close to

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 1>my heart.

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.359
<v Speaker 2>You've said before, and you said it almost in this

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 2>way earlier today that you've never known where Punky ended

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 2>and you began because of you were alike and she

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 2>was your superpowers. You mentioned after revisiting her. You still

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 2>feel that way.

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And you know, and the way in which we

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 1>were in this parallel journey, the person that I've been

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:15.399
<v Speaker 1>married to for so many years and I were going

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 1>in different directions Punky and her husband, I mean, it

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 1>was just like whoa you know. I mean, it was

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>definitely a place for me to put creative energy into,

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:26.759
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you. I am well. I'm a bigger fan

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 2>of yours now than I was before. You continue to

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 2>do incredible work giving back on issues that are important

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 2>to you. I do want to ask or remind people

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 2>again to go check out ask the Number two Be

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Sure campaign. Will put it in the description here so

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:58.040
<v Speaker 2>that all of you parents out there can be educated

0:46:58.040 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>about meningitis.

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 1>B thank you so much for having me and letting

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 1>me share and being so kind and such an amazing listener.

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:11.799
<v Speaker 2>And oh please, Shaka is the best. She is. I

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 2>think she's the best pediatrician in the world, but maybe

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 2>I just think that because she's mine.

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And Shaka is also one of the best human feeds.

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I love how much you value that for real.

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Best to you. Thank you so much.

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 1>And Melissa of course for coming on.

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes and tell her I said hello. I'll harass her

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 2>at some point here and get her on the program.

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Solet moon fry. Thank you to honor to be here.

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Brian, and thank you for raising

0:47:45.840 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 1>awareness with us. Best to be Sure, So.

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Leigh, thank you so much for being here. That was

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 2>such a treat. I learned so much about you, primarily

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 2>that you have a huge heart and you care about

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 2>not just your kids and your family, but your whole community.

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.839
<v Speaker 2>God bless you. It was such a pleasure come back anytime.

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 2>As for me, so Leay probably won't be back next week,

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 2>but I will, so come back and join me please.

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<v Speaker 2>Until then, guys, have a great week. Off. The Beat

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