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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: We are out at Bedminster Golf Course. I played it

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Speaker 1: yesterday with the man who was sitting next to us

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Speaker 1: and has turned this into an absolutely illustrious place. And

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Speaker 1: a little over an hour shotguns start with the Live

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Speaker 1: Golf Tour President Trump. First of all, thanks for having

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Speaker 1: Buck and I out here. Second, what did you think

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Speaker 1: of your performance on the course, Howard Bryson Deshambo. How

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Speaker 1: is Dustin Johnson? How do you break down the field

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Speaker 1: here as we're a little over hour till it's underway. Well,

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Speaker 1: those two are great, and I mean anybody here is

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Speaker 1: really good. They went and they pick in the cream

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Speaker 1: of the crop and it's very interesting. But you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of great players see Lee Westwood and Ian

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Speaker 1: Poulter and just a lot of big names. It's incredible

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Speaker 1: what they've done in a very short period of time.

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Speaker 1: I think Dustin is a very big one because if

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Speaker 1: you look over the last probably twelve to fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson, I think he's won every year since he's

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Speaker 1: been out close to setting a record right for the

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Speaker 1: winning each year. That's very tough when you include injury

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Speaker 1: and everything else. That's stuff, but that was big. But

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Speaker 1: it's very hot. You see how the fans are all

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Speaker 1: over the place, and you know there's controversy, and controversy

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Speaker 1: sometimes brings that not good or bad. But there is controversy.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps there shouldn't be. I don't think there should be.

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Speaker 1: When Joe Biden's showing up doing fift pounds in Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you can't have in America. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing, but actually a lot of money goes to charity,

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Speaker 1: A lot of money goes to a lot of good causes.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at Saudi Arabia, the job they've done,

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Speaker 1: they're invested in probably half the countries in this country.

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Speaker 1: So I guess that means a lot of people they

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing it right. So they put a tremendous

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Speaker 1: amount of money into this tournament, but into this whole

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Speaker 1: concept of what they're doing, and I think they'll be

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Speaker 1: very successful. I mean, they have unlimited funds and they have,

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Speaker 1: you know, thanks to Biden to a certain extent, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people because oil has never been so

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Speaker 1: expensive as it really it is right now, and that's

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Speaker 1: not a good thing. But it's good for Saudi Arabian,

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Speaker 1: good for other countries. But they've they've really put their

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Speaker 1: heart into this. They love the concept of it, they

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Speaker 1: love charity they do they give a lot of money

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Speaker 1: to charity, and it seems to be working very well

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. Mister President. Obviously, the news yesterday

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Speaker 1: about a recession, a lot of us were expecting, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you were expecting it. It's pretty pretty clear

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Speaker 1: that's where it was heading. I'm sure you've also seen

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Speaker 1: the White House try to say that recession doesn't mean recession,

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Speaker 1: that things are better than people realize. Two things, One,

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Speaker 1: is this even worse than you thought it would be

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Speaker 1: at this phase under the current leadership? And then what

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Speaker 1: would you start to do to turn things around? If

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Speaker 1: you know, if the presidents listen to this, what would

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Speaker 1: you say? So, we had the greatest economic machine in history,

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Speaker 1: and then we got hit with the COVID. It came

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Speaker 1: in from China, came in from the Wuhan labs, as

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Speaker 1: I've been saying right from the beginning, but it came

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Speaker 1: right in and we got hit. And then we did

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Speaker 1: it again, and we actually ended up with a highest

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Speaker 1: stock market then before. But we had the greatest economic

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Speaker 1: machine ever. We were energy independent, and we were just

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Speaker 1: about being energy dominant. We would have been bigger than

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia and Russia put together, and you could add

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Speaker 1: other countries in there too. We were bigger than anyone

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Speaker 1: and we would have been double the size. We did

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Speaker 1: something that nobody thought was possible, and we had dollar

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Speaker 1: eighty seven. Don't forget. You can't really go in January twentieth.

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Speaker 1: You have to go before that. You have to go

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Speaker 1: election day. But we had dollar eighty seven gasoline. Everything

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Speaker 1: was going and perfectly, and then we had an election

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Speaker 1: where a lot of things were done very very improperly,

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Speaker 1: and they're being found out right now as we speak,

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Speaker 1: I mean literally as we speak. And now we have

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Speaker 1: a country that's a totally different country. We're not respected

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Speaker 1: by anybody. We're being laughed at and scorned. We have

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Speaker 1: gasoline that's now at five dollars, we're going to be

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars a barrel. I had it

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Speaker 1: If they were so, they were no no for a

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Speaker 1: Walster because you had to take the oil with you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so they're not into that, they're into trading paper. But

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Speaker 1: if you took a barrel of oil, they would give

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Speaker 1: I had to do something about that because the oil

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Speaker 1: probably forty is a perfect They could make some money

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Speaker 1: and the gasoline would be inexpensive. And I filled up

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Speaker 1: the national reserves, these strategic reserves seventy five million barrels.

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Speaker 1: We got seventy five million barrels of oil during that

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Speaker 1: period of time. We paid almost nothing for it. We

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Speaker 1: I think the borders. Obviously it started with the borders,

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Speaker 1: but I think we're really started in terms of the

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Speaker 1: psychology of how bad we are. Is the way they

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Speaker 1: withdrew from Afghanistan, giving the Taliban seventy I mean eighty

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Speaker 1: five billion dollars worth of equipment, you know, all brand new,

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Speaker 1: mostly brand new trucks, seventy thousand trucks. What used parking

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Speaker 1: lot take the biggest one in the world. They don't

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Speaker 1: have seventy thousand of anything, let alone seventy thousand armor

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Speaker 1: plated trucks and cars and everything else, the best, the

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Speaker 1: best stuff in the world. The goggles you know, now

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Speaker 1: they can fight at night because we gave them better

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Speaker 1: the largest arms dealer. Heard they're the second largest arms

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Speaker 1: that equipment. And then we had the planes and the

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Speaker 1: tanks and everything else that we gave up, not even conceivable.

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Speaker 1: We took our military at first we had seventy We

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Speaker 1: had thirteen dead soldiers and many really badly injured during

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Speaker 1: that whole situation, and we left American hostages behind. To

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Speaker 1: been a time like that, and I believe that that's

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Speaker 1: when putin. There was no way that Putin was going

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Speaker 1: even people that are opposed to Trump. I was watching

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Speaker 1: Sleepy Eyes checked Todd a couple of months ago. He

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Speaker 1: said he was interviewing the Secretary of State and saying, well,

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Speaker 1: how come this didn't happen when Trump was here for

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Speaker 1: four years? It didn't happen. It was never even thought

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Speaker 1: think you're going to have a problem with China too,

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Speaker 1: to things. I mean, do you think she should go

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Speaker 1: Brittany Grinder and Victor Bout that Russia has put forward

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Speaker 1: She went in there loaded up with drugs into a

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Speaker 1: her out for a absolute killer and one of the

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Speaker 1: go in there loaded up with drugs. Since she admitted it,

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Speaker 1: it is what it is, and it certainly doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: like a very good trade, does it. He's an absolute

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Speaker 1: probably not the greatest thing. No, I would say it's

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Speaker 1: not the greatest thing. Look, that should would have never happened.

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Speaker 1: Because I've believe Putin wanted to make a deal, and

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Speaker 1: a great negotiation. He went, he put troops on the board,

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Speaker 1: and I think it was a great negotiation. I said, well,

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Speaker 1: And to see what's happened now, and you have hundreds

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Speaker 1: deal that could have been settled. Should have never happened,

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Speaker 1: out here with President Trump at Bedminster where the live

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Speaker 1: golf tournament is underway, and he's sitting here with us

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Speaker 1: right now talking about everything that is going on as president.

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Speaker 1: Of course, thanks for staying with us. We know you're

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Speaker 1: super busy today. We got a big midterm election coming up.

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Speaker 1: We've been saying this is the first opportunity the American

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Speaker 1: people will have for a repudiation, for a real slapdown

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Speaker 1: of some of the really bad Democrat ideas that have

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Speaker 1: been running amuck for a while now. In this midterm election,

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Speaker 1: Republicans are looking pretty good so far. How are you

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Speaker 1: feeling about your endorsements, and we got a couple of

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Speaker 1: really close races that are going to be watched on

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Speaker 1: the Senate side Georgia for example, with herschel Walker doctor

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Speaker 1: Oz up in Pennsylvania. How are you seeing this field

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Speaker 1: of play going into a crucial mid term. So the

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Speaker 1: endorsements have been amazing, as you probably have heard, ninety

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Speaker 1: eight point two percent. And there's some controversial ones too.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's some ones that were not expected to

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Speaker 1: win and they won big, like Dan Cox last week.

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Speaker 1: Nobody heard of Dan. He was a respected guy, but

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Speaker 1: nobody really heard of him. And going against the rhino

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Speaker 1: Larry Hogan in Maryland, and as you know, he won

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Speaker 1: by nineteen points. That's a lot, and you know, many

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Speaker 1: many things like that. I'll be making an endorsement very

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Speaker 1: shortly today sometime. Having been just going to ask you,

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Speaker 1: because I know we got the Tuesday Michigan, Arizona, Missouri.

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Speaker 1: You just endorsed Tutor Dixon up in Michigan. Do you

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Speaker 1: want to make some news here with us right now? Well,

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Speaker 1: I gave her a good a good plug. I haven't

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Speaker 1: endorsed yet, but I may very well do it today.

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Speaker 1: But I did give her good You have truth as well.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to make any other news you can

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Speaker 1: endorse anybody else? Well, I will. I'll be endorsing a

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Speaker 1: few more people before the election. And you know the

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Speaker 1: elections are coming up largely on Tuesday and then next week.

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Speaker 1: In Texas, we were thirty three and oh we had

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Speaker 1: a perfect record. And I guess overall we're about one

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven and seven and that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: And a couple of the seven were not winnable. But

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Speaker 1: there were people that, I mean, they would behind like

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Speaker 1: my massive numbers, but I knew him. They were nice

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Speaker 1: to me, and I said, I tried to talk him

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Speaker 1: out of it, but I couldn't do that. That Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: senacy between the Democrat Federman lieutenant governor there and doctor Oz,

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Speaker 1: who just knows, of course because he's doctor Oz. How

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Speaker 1: do you think that's going to shape off in for

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Speaker 1: anybody who has it? You know, doctor Oz, obviously he

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Speaker 1: was your guy in that in that race. Very good,

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Speaker 1: your full faith, you'll be a conservative, he'll get it done. Well.

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Speaker 1: I had a great Pennsylvania twice and much better the

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Speaker 1: second time. I would say I did much. I did

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Speaker 1: you know, I got many millions and more votes the

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Speaker 1: second time in you know, overall, but in Pennsylvania definitely.

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Speaker 1: And what happens is he was really you know, they

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Speaker 1: spent like fifty million dollars against him in the primary.

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Speaker 1: And that's hard, you know, when you get hit by

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Speaker 1: unlimited money in the primary, which is what he did.

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Speaker 1: But he's starting to come up. He's very good. He's

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Speaker 1: a good politician, he's a good man. He's really a

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Speaker 1: compassionate guy. And I think he's going to do well.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll do very well in places like Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: better than a Republican would normally do. I remember a

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Speaker 1: few years they said that Romney got zero in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Now you know that's not possible, but it is when

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Speaker 1: they cheat. They wouldn't even give him one vote. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they say he got zero. He didn't get any votes

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Speaker 1: in this big city, so which you know isn't so.

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Speaker 1: But I think oswell, he's a very good campaigner. He

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Speaker 1: got hit again. He got hit so hard just day

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Speaker 1: after day after day. Then he has to go against

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Speaker 1: somebody else. Now, Futterman has got a very big medical

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Speaker 1: problem and people have to see you know, he's not

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Speaker 1: been out at all trying to do the Biden hide

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Speaker 1: in the basement camp. They're doing something. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be very interesting. But at some point, you know, the

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Speaker 1: people of Pennsylvania, they have to have a representative. So

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Speaker 1: it's going to be very interesting to see how Oz

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Speaker 1: handles it. Then the other race, it's interesting as Herschel.

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Speaker 1: Herschel is Herschel. He's a great star, the greatest star

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Speaker 1: ever in George. I mean, you have you have certainly

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Speaker 1: Hank Aaron, you have Herschel, you have a few of them.

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Speaker 1: But Herschel was the best football player, maybe one of

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Speaker 1: the best couple of best in the history of college football.

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Speaker 1: And I think that when people go in there, they're

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Speaker 1: going to press the Herschel lever. I believe that he's

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Speaker 1: doing pretty well. When you watch Joe Biden speak, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you like us watch him on screen, can't

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Speaker 1: read a teleprompter or seems to be struggling even to walk.

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Speaker 1: You played eighteen holes of golf yesterday. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden could play eighteen holes of golf, certainly not

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Speaker 1: with pros and Minigal, Yeah, maybe Minigal. He can't hit

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Speaker 1: the ball out there with me. That I can tell

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Speaker 1: you nor could he hit hit it beyond the tea?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah? Right? Is it difficult to watch him

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Speaker 1: even even you ran a campaign against him? But Buck

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Speaker 1: and I talk about, look, we don't want the president

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Speaker 1: to be taken advantage of by Russia and to be

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Speaker 1: taken advantage and he could barely control a conversation, it

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Speaker 1: feels like. And you saw I'm sure China basically slapped

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Speaker 1: him down in that conversation they had the other day

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Speaker 1: in the Taiwan situation. Zero respect. And you know that

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Speaker 1: never happened with me. I had a very good relationship actually,

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Speaker 1: and then when COVID came in, I sort of gave

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Speaker 1: that relationship up. It was that was a tunnel too

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Speaker 1: far right, that was a little bit too much doctor Fauci,

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Speaker 1: drive you crazy? No, I usually just did the opposite

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Speaker 1: of what he said. You know, he wasn't a big

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Speaker 1: factor for me because I didn't really use him too much.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know who it was, excepting he's been there

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Speaker 1: for sover, like thirty five forty years, right, so you know,

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Speaker 1: guys are there for forty years. You don't like to

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Speaker 1: say get out. You assume he's okay, But if you

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Speaker 1: think of it, he wanted to keep the country open

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Speaker 1: to let China pour in, and I stopped it. I

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Speaker 1: didn't do it. I didn't do the masks thing. He

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Speaker 1: was very interesting because he was totally I remember in

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Speaker 1: my office he was totally against masks. All of a

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Speaker 1: sudden he became a radical masker, you know, so he changes,

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Speaker 1: But if you look at everything he said, I did

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Speaker 1: almost the opposite of about everything he said. But he's

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Speaker 1: a very big factor in this administration, and that's been

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Speaker 1: a bad thing because of the lockdown. So lockdowns have

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Speaker 1: been a disaster. Are you worried that some of these

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Speaker 1: Democrats states or Democrat run states, and even at the

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Speaker 1: federal level, as long as Biden's in office, they may

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Speaker 1: try to bring back some of these policies, whether it's

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Speaker 1: mandatory masking on planes or just some of the other

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Speaker 1: COVID mitigation measures as foul, he calls them, that haven't

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Speaker 1: worked well. When we see monkeypox and these other things

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Speaker 1: that they're talking about, and we see the revival of

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Speaker 1: you know, all of this nonsense about Biden because he

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Speaker 1: did a very bad job with the H one N

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Speaker 1: one virus, as you know, very bad, but it was

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Speaker 1: a smaller situation, but it was a horrible job. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people died that really should not have. And

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Speaker 1: then he was going to come in and solve the problem,

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Speaker 1: and we did a fantastic job. He took over the residue.

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Speaker 1: Also on our economy, the reason he had a good

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Speaker 1: first six months. You know, it doesn't just go away

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Speaker 1: like a slice of He said he was going to

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Speaker 1: shut down the virus and not shut down the economy,

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Speaker 1: and it looks like Biden got that in reverse. I

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Speaker 1: think he got it an adverse. But but if you look,

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Speaker 1: I mean, COVID is all over the place, so you

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Speaker 1: know there wasn't And I'm not even blaming them. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not blamed. That's just the way it is. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying, oh gee, but I looked at a map yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But it's very interesting. We have an election coming up

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they're they're saying COVID is

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Speaker 1: so they may have to go to mail in ballots.

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Speaker 1: Let's going to crook at mail in ballots. There are

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Speaker 1: some things we just have to ask you as a president.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to announce, when are you going to announce?

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us that. Well, if I'm going to announce,

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Speaker 1: I'll have to make a decision. Is it going to

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Speaker 1: be you know two words, is it before or after?

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Speaker 1: And there are reasons for both. I mean some very

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Speaker 1: good things about earlier, there's some very good things about later.

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Speaker 1: The way I look at it is if I announced

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Speaker 1: early and we do well, I'll get credit for having

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Speaker 1: done well, as much as you'll get, because the press

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Speaker 1: won't give you credit anyway. If I do poorly, I'll

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Speaker 1: get absolutely it'll be it'll be horrible. But if I

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Speaker 1: announced later and we do well, I won't get any credit.

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Speaker 1: In fact, if I announced later we don't do well,

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Speaker 1: whether it's before or after, they'll blame me. In other words,

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Speaker 1: if we do badly, they'll blame me no matter what,

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Speaker 1: even if I had nothing to do with it. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I will make a decision. The one

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Speaker 1: thing I can say for sure, our country is going

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Speaker 1: to hell. I don't think we've ever been so disrespected.

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Speaker 1: In all of the years that this country has been around,

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Speaker 1: and it's been a lot of years, I don't think

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Speaker 1: we've ever been so disrespected as a country. They all

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Speaker 1: they talk about, you know, everything, they do is disinformation

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Speaker 1: or misinformation. Call it what you want. Disinformation. Whether it's Russia,

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Speaker 1: Russia Russia, or whether it's are we in a recession

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Speaker 1: or not, it doesn't matter. The key is to get

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Speaker 1: out of it because we are not doing well with employment.

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Speaker 1: You know, they like to say three point five percent,

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00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: but many millions of people are aren't working, so therefore

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00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: they don't count those people. So it's not three point five.

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00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: It's a much higher number than that because people aren't working.

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Speaker 1: This staying at home. So you can't compare that three

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Speaker 1: point five with my three point three percent. You just

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00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: can't compare it. People aren't working and they don't have

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Speaker 1: any intention of working. There's a lot of bad things

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Speaker 1: going on. So we'll see how it all works. I'll

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Speaker 1: make a decision fairly soon, and I must tell you,

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Speaker 1: and I think I can say this in my mind.

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00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: I've already made the decision. And as part of that decision,

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Speaker 1: do you feel I know you're a big sports fan.

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00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: We're here at the live golf event. Do you feel

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Speaker 1: like a heavyweight boxer who won the fight and then

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Speaker 1: the refs basically sitting there ringside? You know how it

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Speaker 1: happens all the time. In boxing, you've probably been to

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00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: some of the fights ide for so many of them

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Speaker 1: where you watch it and you say, this guy clearly won,

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00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: and then they come out and they raise the hand

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Speaker 1: of the other guy. Does it feel a little bit

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Speaker 1: like that to you? And then to box or who

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00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: feels like he won says, I got to get back

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00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: in the ring. I want to be there and make

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Speaker 1: it so clear to everybody that I kicked this guy. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they could very much be a little bit of that.

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Speaker 1: If you look, Hey, I got sixty three million votes

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Speaker 1: the first time, and I got probably much more than

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Speaker 1: seventy five million votes a second time. This is their account,

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Speaker 1: probably much more. Well, that's a twelve million vote difference.

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Speaker 1: So I got twelve million votes. I was told if

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Speaker 1: I got the same sixty three, I couldn't lose. I

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Speaker 1: got seventy five. Maybe much more than that. We don't

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Speaker 1: even know because half of the votes. You know, the

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Speaker 1: tabulations are so messy. If you look at the litigation

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Speaker 1: and you look at different things, they have no idea.

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00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they have votes where they don't have any

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Speaker 1: idea what the vote is. They really literally just yesterday

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Speaker 1: I readware in New Jersey. Did you see that they

678
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: found massive numbers of incorrect votes in New Jersey. If

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00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: you look at the Arizona totals and you look at

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Speaker 1: the audience where they talk about, if you look at

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Speaker 1: Detroit and you look at different places, Philadelphia, it was

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Speaker 1: so off. So I was told that if I got

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Speaker 1: sixty three million, I went easy by the best polsters,

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00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, McLaughlin and others, great polsters. Obama got much

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00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: less the second time, and he easily won. Right. I

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00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: got much more the second time. I got millions and

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00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: millions of votes more, and I lost the most votes

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00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: ever for any sitting president, No sitting presidents ever even

689
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: come close. And I lost. It was a rigged election.

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Speaker 1: It was I hope they don't take you off the

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Speaker 1: air that they do. Please just delete this because I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see you, guys acraft. That was a

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00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: rigged and soule in election, and people know it, and

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00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: they're angry about it. They're very angry about it. And

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00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: that's why you had January six And they don't show

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00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: the crowds at January sixth. All they do is show

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00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: the relatively small number of people that went down peacefully

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Speaker 1: and patriotically, because I told him peacefully and patriotically, how

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Speaker 1: good you know? How much better can you do than that?

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Speaker 1: But it was a very small number compared to the crowd.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was the biggest crowd I've ever spoken before.

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00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: You never see pictures of that crowd, do you notice that.

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00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: I think the numbers were astronomical. I think it was

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Speaker 1: bigger than Inauguration Day. I think it was the biggest

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Speaker 1: crowd I've spoken to, and I've spoken to really big

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00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: crowds at the Washington Monument, etc. And you never see

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00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: those pictures. The whole thing is rigged. It's all disinformation.

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00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: Everything with them is disinformation, including our current disinformation. We're

709
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: not in a recession because it's not that important that

710
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: they should fight. They're fighting so hard to convince people

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00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: they're not. If we are, we are, and let's get

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Speaker 1: out of it. I mean, don't spend all your time

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Speaker 1: trying for the words. It's all disinformation with them, everything,

714
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: and you can't run a country like that. What they

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00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: do well is elections. They cheat well in elections. That's

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00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: what they do well. If they would use that same

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00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: genius for good things, like getting our country back on

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00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: track would be I'd actually be happy because our country

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Speaker 1: I don't believe has ever been lower. We have never

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Speaker 1: been lower than this, we have never been so disrespected.

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Speaker 1: We've never been in a situation like this. When you

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00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: see Afghanistan. The way we got out of Afghanistan, you know,

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Speaker 1: we didn't lose one soldier and eighteen months fell is

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Speaker 1: not one soldier in eighteen months. I spoke to Abdul,

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Speaker 1: the head of the Taliban, and I let him know

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Speaker 1: the Abdul, no soldiers, don't do it. Don't do it, Abdul,

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Speaker 1: And the bottom line for eighteen months, people don't know that.

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Speaker 1: You'll lose people in Chicago every day. You'll lose people

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Speaker 1: all over these democrat run cities all the time. In Afghanistan,

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Speaker 1: we didn't lose one soldier for eighteen months. And that's

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00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: all proven stuff. Even Biden got up and admitted it.

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Speaker 1: They were angry at him. They said, don't say that.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, bad for us that you say that.

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Speaker 1: He said it. He didn't want to say it, he

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Speaker 1: just said it. Going back to your previous question, But

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Speaker 1: think of it. We lost what we did with Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: We could have gotten out of there with dignity, and

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Speaker 1: I was the one that got it down to a

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00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: small number of soldier. I would have kept Bogram because

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00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: of China, because it's one hour away from where they

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Speaker 1: make their nuclear weapons. We left one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: military bases in the world. We gave it to China.

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Speaker 1: China is going to take it over. I think they

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00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: already have, but think of it. So we left Bogram

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Speaker 1: to them. We should have kept Bogram and gotten now.

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Speaker 1: But when you get out, you take your soldiers out last.

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00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: You don't take them out first. As soon as we

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00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: took our soldiers out, they had a field day with us.

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Speaker 1: It is so sad to see what's happened with our country.

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Speaker 1: And that's why you have Russia, Ukraine, and that's why

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00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: you may very well have Taiwan, and you could end

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Speaker 1: up in World War three. And this would be a

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Speaker 1: world war the likes of which nobody has ever seen

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Speaker 1: because the weaponry is so powerful, nuclear and other things.

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Speaker 1: But the weaponry is so powerful. We've never been in

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Speaker 1: this position. And we have a man who's not capable,

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Speaker 1: and wasn't capable in primetime, by the way, but he's

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00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: certainly not capable now we're in big trouble as a country.

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Speaker 1: We could have spent an hour, honestly just talking about

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Speaker 1: the situation of the US Mexico border and how that's

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Speaker 1: such a complete and utter mess these days. The economy

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Speaker 1: obviously is not where it should be. And that's not

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Speaker 1: But on crime as well, you know, there has been

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Speaker 1: DA's the Soros back das. You've got former DA Budan

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Speaker 1: and San Francisco got removed, and now you've got Gascone

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Speaker 1: who could get removed in all they've crossed that hurle

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Speaker 1: Krasner in Philadelphia and other Soros back DA. I think, well,

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Speaker 1: you have Kim Fox in Chicago. UM, Marilyn Moseby. I

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Speaker 1: think in Baltimore, I think she has some other problems

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Speaker 1: these days, legal issues. Point being, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of prosecutors that everyone's realized, well they're they're just what

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Speaker 1: they're doing is reckless. But it's a lot more than

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Speaker 1: just that. It's the entire system, right, It's it's the way,

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Speaker 1: it's the way that the police. And we had a

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Speaker 1: fantastic interview with Raphael Mangual about he was. He was

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Speaker 1: so good. I mean because this he you know, we

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Speaker 1: try to always bring people on if they're a specific

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Speaker 1: subject matter expert with deep expertise on this. And he's

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Speaker 1: at the Manhattan Institute. He's got a book Criminal It

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Speaker 1: was a criminal Injustice, I believe, um and uh. And

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Speaker 1: he was talking about how the whole system they are

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Speaker 1: all these breakdowns. It's been a change that's intentional, and

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Speaker 1: Democrats have been pushing this. This is not from both

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Speaker 1: sides of the aisle, which brings to this New York

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Speaker 1: Post piece. Recidivism rates for New York cities burglars and

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Speaker 1: NYPD data Clay roughly one in five criminals who have

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Speaker 1: been arrested for burglary or theft, were arrested for an

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Speaker 1: additional felony charge within sixty days after being put back

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Speaker 1: on the streets. I mean, this is one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest problems that we've seen. Is one, people are not

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Speaker 1: being punished by the criminal justice system for repeated infractions

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Speaker 1: in a way that's going to make them not want

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Speaker 1: to keep doing this. And also generally when their interaction

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Speaker 1: with their criminal justice system, this true New York's tool

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Speaker 1: all over the country is so minimal, they actually end

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Speaker 1: up often going on people that are breaking the law

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Speaker 1: go on to commit much more serious crimes, which is

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Speaker 1: why we see, you know, somebody broad daylight shooting as

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Speaker 1: you know that was a car jacking the went bad

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Speaker 1: or something. You find those person's been arrested fifteen times

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Speaker 1: for shoplifting, burglary, all these things. Buck, here's an easy

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Speaker 1: way to think about it for everybody out there listening.

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Speaker 1: You just ran through a lot of big city DA names.

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Speaker 1: How often did you even know the name of a

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Speaker 1: DA in the nineties and the two thousands. My own city,

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Speaker 1: that's it, that's right, other than your own city. And

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Speaker 1: you even had to be kind of plugged in in

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Speaker 1: your own city to know the DA those names. We

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Speaker 1: all know Gascone in La Krasner, as you said, in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: Coast to coast, we are aware Alvin Bragg in the

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Speaker 1: choices that he's making as the DA in New York City.

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Speaker 1: DA's are so out of control and crime has skyrocketed

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Speaker 1: to such an extent that many of us out there

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Speaker 1: can just roll the names of DA's off our tongues

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Speaker 1: because they're doing such an awful job. And I would

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Speaker 1: submit to you that being a DA is a lot

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Speaker 1: like being an umpire or a referee in sports. If

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Speaker 1: we're talking about your name, you probably did something that

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Speaker 1: is a bad job, because I can't even remember in

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Speaker 1: the nineties and the two thousands, even the early two

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Speaker 1: tens buck where you could run so many DA's names

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Speaker 1: off the tip of your tongue like we can now.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Baltimore. Baltimore's city attorney, a City States Attorney,

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Speaker 1: Marilyn Mosby. She actually just finished. I knew she'd been

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Speaker 1: in the headlines recently. She finished last in her reelection

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Speaker 1: bid for for that that job. When we talk. She's

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Speaker 1: also facing federal trial in September on mortgage fraud and

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Speaker 1: perjury chart ideal, which if you have seen the wire,

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Speaker 1: remember they get there's a Baltimore politician who they try

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Speaker 1: to get on mortgage fraud, which mortgage fraud can can

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Speaker 1: be when it's when it's a serial, when when they

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Speaker 1: decide to go after it's a pretty serious crime. And

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Speaker 1: as we said in Baltimore in particular, it's such a

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Speaker 1: perfect window into where violent crime is coming from. Buck

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the number of recitivus, people who commit crimes

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Speaker 1: end up back out on the street. One of the

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Speaker 1: data points in that analysis that was done for the

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal of murders in Baltimore showed the ninety

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Speaker 1: out of one hundred and ten of murders that had

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Speaker 1: been committed in a particular area were being committed by

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Speaker 1: people who had already been in prison for violent crime

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Speaker 1: and shouldn't have been out. Not only were they in prison,

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Speaker 1: they were convicted, and if they had been in prison,

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Speaker 1: you could have eliminated all of those murders, which goes

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Speaker 1: to your point because you worked with the NYPD sum

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Speaker 1: it's a tiny, tiny percentage of people who are flagrantly

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Speaker 1: violating the law and making cities unsafe. For white, Black,

879
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Speaker 1: Asian and Hispanic people everywhere. We get far less than

880
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Speaker 1: one percent of particular neighborhoods where crimes are high, and

881
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Speaker 1: way less than one percent of the people who live there.

882
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Speaker 1: We just have to go get the bad guys and

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Speaker 1: keep them in jail, but just getting rid of the

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Speaker 1: most far left progressive prosecutors. So that's Gascone, the ones

885
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Speaker 1: we've been naming Gascone. Budan Mosby can Fox up in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Remember she was the one who not only Fox has

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Speaker 1: a particular legacy, she not only made the Jesse's small

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Speaker 1: Let case go away, tried to seal it, yeah, so

889
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Speaker 1: that nobody could ever reopen it or look at it again.

890
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Speaker 1: Tried to just make the whole thing go away for

891
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: her buddy Jesse Smalltt. Was horrible corruption. It was so

892
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: obvious what had gone on there. But getting rid of

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Speaker 1: these individual bad actors. And this is really the point.

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Speaker 1: This is why I think the New York Post analysis

895
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Speaker 1: of the NYPD crime data on recidivism is so interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's not just the individuals who they're the implementors of this.

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Speaker 1: The whole ending of mass incarceration ideology needs to be rejected.

898
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Speaker 1: People need to understand that this, Oh, we need to

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Speaker 1: stop blocking people up for thirty years for marijuana possession.

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Speaker 1: That's actually not what was happening, saying there weren't incidents

901
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Speaker 1: here and there where the criminal justice system got it

902
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: wrong or went after somebody or you know, punish somebody

903
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Speaker 1: too severely. Clearly, that's a thing and that should be addressed.

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Speaker 1: But instead of looking at those individual cases, the ideology

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Speaker 1: turned to the left wing progressive belief system was we

906
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Speaker 1: just need to lock up fewer people. In Philadelphia, they

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Speaker 1: dropped the overall prison population and a few in the

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Speaker 1: course of a few years. I think it was about

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Speaker 1: forty you know, you look at Pennsylvania State prisons that

910
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Speaker 1: that Philadelphia was sending people to. They had a huge

911
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Speaker 1: reduction in the in the prisoner population. And what we've

912
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Speaker 1: seen is but that's not because there was a huge

913
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Speaker 1: reduction in crime, folks. So instead of dealing with this sensibly,

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Speaker 1: they just decided to act like if we let people out,

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Speaker 1: everything will be better. It's pretty crazy. It somehow became

916
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Speaker 1: racist to put criminals behind bars. And that's why, to me,

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Speaker 1: a destructive argument of that one, because you'll hear if

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Speaker 1: you're out there right now, and maybe you've been in

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Speaker 1: your daily life, maybe your kid, maybe one of your

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Speaker 1: friends comes out and says, well, the criminal justice system

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Speaker 1: is racist because there are too many minorities behind bars.

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Speaker 1: That's a common argument on the left. I would just

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Speaker 1: ask you to blow people's mind by saying, why don't

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Speaker 1: you argue that it's sexist because men are overwhelmingly put

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Speaker 1: behind bars? Yet impact is a bad theory to apply

926
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Speaker 1: for criminal justice. But they'll say any context that, they'll

927
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Speaker 1: say immediately, well, that's because men commit more crimes. You

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Speaker 1: just say exactly like criminals are the people who get

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Speaker 1: put behind bars. It's not a choice that's being made.

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Speaker 1: And that's why murder we've talked about is one of

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Speaker 1: the crime statistics that typically typically is reliable because there

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Speaker 1: is a dead body involved. You can argue about drug deals,

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Speaker 1: you can argue about a violent, even violent crime, but

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Speaker 1: murder is the one where when there's a dead body,

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Speaker 1: pretty good sense somebody shot, pretty good sense that it

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Speaker 1: didn't happen by them by their own hand, there's a crime.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at the data, the data is

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Speaker 1: not reflective of the population. Men commit almost all murders,

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Speaker 1: almost all sexual assaults too. There are a number of

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Speaker 1: serious guy all armed robberies. How many times have you

941
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Speaker 1: seen an armed robbery recently committed by a female? And

942
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Speaker 1: it happens, but it's a very raw percentage, And nobody

943
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Speaker 1: would accept the argument that the police are sexist because

944
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Speaker 1: they're arresting men far too often. We gotta go where

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Speaker 1: the crime is and we got to arrest those guys

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Speaker 1: and they're mostly guys, and we got to put them

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Speaker 1: behind bars for full length of sentences. And then we

948
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Speaker 1: just like the nineties all over again. Buck, we know

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Speaker 1: the miracle starts to happen. Crime declines when bad guys

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Final hour

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Speaker 1: of the week. We are live from Bedminster off course

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Speaker 1: Trump's golf course out here in New Jersey. If you

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Speaker 1: are just starting off the show with us, it's a

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Speaker 1: really good time to tell you go check out the podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can go search out my name Clay Travis, you

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Speaker 1: can search out buck Sexton. President Trump was with us

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Speaker 1: for the entire first hour. Basically of the show, touching

978
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Speaker 1: on a tremendous variety of different subjects. He obviously is

979
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Speaker 1: a longtime fan of Rush and his audience, so he

980
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Speaker 1: has been more than generous to hang out with us

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Speaker 1: several different times. You'll recall we were down at mar

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Speaker 1: Lago with him in February and now at the end

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Speaker 1: of July up here for this live golf event. And

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Speaker 1: what's intriguing about this as we break it down and

985
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Speaker 1: start to think about everything surrounding, he said so much,

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Speaker 1: I'd encourage everybody to go listen to the whole podcast.

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Speaker 1: But there is a big story here brewing surrounding Nancy

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Speaker 1: Pelosi's potential trip to Taiwan, and in fact, if she goes,

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Speaker 1: as you just heard me close out the hour, official

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Speaker 1: Chinese state media is saying they will consider it to

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Speaker 1: be an invasion and that they will try to keep

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Speaker 1: her plane from landing, and if necessary, they will shoot

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Speaker 1: down her plane. And we talked about this with President

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Speaker 1: Trump in the difficult situation that Nancy Pelosi is now

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Speaker 1: in and that the United States government is now in

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Speaker 1: as well. Here is how Trump analyzed it and the

997
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 1: idea that this could could lead to a potential world

998
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Speaker 1: War three situation. Listen, everything that's going on the border.

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Speaker 1: You were right, Crime, you were right, Ukraine, you were right.

1000
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Speaker 1: May end up being right about Taiwan and what China

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Speaker 1: might do, and it could lead to World War three.

1002
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Speaker 1: But it could all lead to World War three. Remember that.

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Speaker 1: Just remember I said that too, And that's what's really

1004
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Speaker 1: very high stakes. Obviously, Yes, And so as you break

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Speaker 1: all that down, buck he said essentially that Nancy Pelosi

1006
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Speaker 1: is in a really difficult spot because if you don't go,

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Speaker 1: you look weak as if you are bending to China's will.

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Speaker 1: But if you do go, you potentially are putting your

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Speaker 1: thumb in China's eye and provoking a very dangerous situation.

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Speaker 1: So you were in international intelligence for a long time

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00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: with the CIA. What in the world do you do now,

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00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: given the threats coming from China and the fact that

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00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: Pelosi evidently still is intending to go, How does this

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Speaker 1: play out? I think that the reality is that Nancy

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00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: Pelosi knows that she's got to go at this point,

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Speaker 1: or else it'll be a huge political misstep for her.

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Speaker 1: But I would be nervous on that plane. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be a part of that delegation,

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Speaker 1: given how important this is to China to draw a

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Speaker 1: line here, and what I believe we're seeing one is

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Speaker 1: that the Biden. You notice how President Trump really really

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Speaker 1: spend some time in laid into what happened in Afghanistan, yea,

1023
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Speaker 1: and the way that that all came apart after twenty years,

1024
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Speaker 1: all the blood and toil and treasure in that country

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Speaker 1: the US spent and twenty years, and then to have

1026
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Speaker 1: it all just fall apart In would look just to

1027
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Speaker 1: be a debacle. In real time, sent a lot of

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Speaker 1: messages to other regimes and to our the oppositional countries,

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Speaker 1: places like Russia, places like China. You can't help but

1030
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Speaker 1: note that the biggest war in Europe since World War

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Speaker 1: Two is occurring on President Biden's watch. This could have

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Speaker 1: happened for many years, it has happened on Biden's watch.

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Speaker 1: But what really Putin decided was that he Ukraine mattered

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Speaker 1: more to him than it mattered to us and to Europe, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, essentially, he was willing to have this massive

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Speaker 1: invasion and what are we really going to do about it? Now?

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Speaker 1: We're giving munitions and we're sending money, and we asked him.

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Speaker 1: We showed the president and after By the way, the

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Speaker 1: photos of Zelenski with he did not is crazy. He

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Speaker 1: did not think the Vogue photos shoot in the middle

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Speaker 1: of a war. He did not think the optics of

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Speaker 1: that were wise. It did. But Zelenski's playing to his

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Speaker 1: bass in our country, and his bass is very wealthy

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Speaker 1: democrat elites and people that work at you know, ABC

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Speaker 1: News and places like that, they're they're very pro Zelenski.

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Speaker 1: A lot of other people are sitting here saying, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: what's really going on and why aren't we ever hearing

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Speaker 1: about a negotiated an attempt that a negotiated settlement for

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Speaker 1: that country. Who does Taiwan matter more to the United

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Speaker 1: States or China? Eventually you get into a contest of

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Speaker 1: wills and what are you really willing to do about

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Speaker 1: the situation. It was just a few years ago when

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of talk about what we'll do

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Speaker 1: with regard to Hong Kong. Remember, and there are people

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Speaker 1: in Hong Kong, residents of Hong Kong were flying or

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Speaker 1: raising US flags and singing the Star Spangled Benner. We're saying, well,

1057
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Speaker 1: we stand with Hong Kong. That lasted a little bit

1058
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Speaker 1: until we realized, what's that really going to mean, folks,

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Speaker 1: Are we going to send in eighty second airborne to

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Speaker 1: get the freedom of the people of Hong Kong. No,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do what we always do, you know, pressure campaigns, publicly, diplomats, demarshes,

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Guess what, China runs Hong Kong. Now

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Speaker 1: China got what they wanted there because it mattered more

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Speaker 1: to that Wyat coup, and they did it so smartly

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Speaker 1: during COVID when everybody was not paying attention by and large.

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Speaker 1: And now Hong Kong is essentially under China's thumb. And

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Speaker 1: it's a disaster if you believe, as we certainly do

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Speaker 1: in free speech and democracy. And Taiwan, I just it feels.

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Speaker 1: The New York Times had a big article buck and

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Speaker 1: they said, there's increasing fear that in the next eighteen months,

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Speaker 1: China is going to invade Taiwan. And if you were,

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Speaker 1: let's take a step back and presume that you are

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Speaker 1: in charge of China. Everybody out there listening, you saw

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Speaker 1: how when feebled the United States was in our departure

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Speaker 1: from Afghanistan, Trump talked about that a great deal because

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Speaker 1: really when Biden, I think for most people, even those

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Speaker 1: who were tending to be generous towards him, recognize that

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Speaker 1: he was not up to the job right Afghanistan. Since then,

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Speaker 1: everything has fallen apart even worse. You saw how bad

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Speaker 1: we were with Afghanistan. You have seen that. Really, even

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Speaker 1: though we talk big, we haven't really done anything to

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Speaker 1: Russia that has had major, incredible danger to Russia attached.

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Speaker 1: Russia's winning that war. You won't hear people talk about that,

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Speaker 1: but Russia's taking territory and in more in control of

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Speaker 1: more territory than when they started. That's right, and there's

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Speaker 1: going to be at some point I would think a

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Speaker 1: negotiated settlement there that's going to end with Russia having

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Speaker 1: grabbed way more land and maybe even cutting Ukraine effectively

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Speaker 1: off from being able to use shipping ports anymore. If that,

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Speaker 1: if you're watching that in your China, why in the

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Speaker 1: world if you believe that Taiwan is your territory and

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Speaker 1: you want to take it, when is the United States

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Speaker 1: going to be weaker than under Joe Biden over the

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Speaker 1: next two years. You don't know who the next president

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Speaker 1: is going to be, You don't know what Congress is

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00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: going to look like Joe Biden is going to be

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Speaker 1: to the extent that he's been a bad president in

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Speaker 1: the first eighteen months. He is going to be impotent

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Speaker 1: on a level that we have never seen before. I

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Speaker 1: really believe this in the final two years of his administration.

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Speaker 1: Why would you not go Now? You also have to

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Speaker 1: ask what prices the US really willing to pay to

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Speaker 1: ensure the independence and freedom of a foreign country that

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Speaker 1: is not the United States. We've seen in Ukraine. We

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Speaker 1: take a middle path right in Ukraine has banned opposition

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Speaker 1: parties and there is a lot of corruption there and

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Speaker 1: Hunter was getting paid eighty thousand Biberismo and it's a

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Speaker 1: country that had problems before the invasion. But obviously the

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Speaker 1: Russian invasion is a war of aggression, and so we

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Speaker 1: are all rooting for Ukraine. We're all with them in spirit.

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Speaker 1: But we've given them essentially the weapons and munitions to

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Speaker 1: keep it going, but we're not We could do a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more. Remember there was talk about a no

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Speaker 1: fly zone. There was talk about training Ukrainian pilots and

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Speaker 1: putting them in US planes and things, And why didn't

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Speaker 1: we do that? Because we thought the Russian escalation that

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Speaker 1: would come would be something we didn't want to handle.

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Speaker 1: You think about what are we really willing to do

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Speaker 1: with Taiwan? To your point about when is it a

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Speaker 1: better time for them to go? If if Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: sees you know, you ask me, what's it like the

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Speaker 1: see if if if the DNI goes running into the

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Speaker 1: Oval office, you know, late one afternoon and says, sir,

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Speaker 1: there are Chinese, you know, transport ships on the way.

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Speaker 1: It's only one hundred miles from mainland China to Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: They're on the way right now. We think the invasions coming.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Joe Biden gives the order. Do you

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Speaker 1: think he says, mobilize, let's go where we're going to go?

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Speaker 1: To the mat for Taiwan? Do the American people want that?

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Speaker 1: To your point about the corporate economic and the economic

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Speaker 1: in englements and the reality of what a war with

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Speaker 1: China would do to the global economy, never mind what

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Speaker 1: a war would actually look like, which is almost unthinkable

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Speaker 1: given the size and power and ferocity of those two

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Speaker 1: competing militaries, Does anyone really have an answer? In strategic ambiguity,

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Speaker 1: I think in part comes from no one's really thought

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Speaker 1: this thing all the way through or really knows they

1138
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Speaker 1: wore game at Buck I mean, and that's why I'm

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Speaker 1: just if I am China, I cannot think of a

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Speaker 1: time when there has been a weaker opportunity. In terms

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Speaker 1: of the United States, I don't think we would do

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Speaker 1: a thing if China invaded time. By the way they're

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Speaker 1: stretching Ukraine alone is stretching our ability to provide munitions.

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Speaker 1: There are concerns not only the Ukraine could run out

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Speaker 1: of it might see up talking about we're talking about

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Speaker 1: rounds for small arms, but also artillery shells and more

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Speaker 1: precise munitions. We're not able to just continue uously provide

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Speaker 1: all of this even in Ukraine at the current rate.

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Speaker 1: So what would happen if you were to try to

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Speaker 1: expand a theater of conflict? Are we are we wanting

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01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: to do this? Are we capable of doing this? Those

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01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: are two things that you would have to really think through.

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Speaker 1: And I to your point about what China sees is

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Speaker 1: there it would there be a better time for it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you would hope that they would look at

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Speaker 1: the US response and say the chance is high enough

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Speaker 1: that they will decide to come to Taiwan's that we

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Speaker 1: won't do this under the Biden administration. Is that the case,

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Speaker 1: Let's hope. So, I don't know, look at how cataclysmic

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Speaker 1: for our economy supply chain issues originating much of them

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Speaker 1: out of China have been. But can you imagine if

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Speaker 1: we actually tried to go to effectively economic war with China.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how United States commerce can be disentangled.

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Speaker 1: And for everybody out there, just think about it. McDonalds

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Speaker 1: basically said, oh, you know what, we don't need McDonald's

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Speaker 1: in Russia anymore, and they bullied every single brand to

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Speaker 1: pull out of Russia as a result. We can't do

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Speaker 1: that if China invades Taiwan, even if we want to.

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Speaker 1: And do you feel that Joe Biden, commander in chief,

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Speaker 1: is going after what happened in Afghanistan and after what

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Speaker 1: you've seen happen with Ukraine, is going to be able

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Speaker 1: to finesse the line Buck you talked about. The United

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Speaker 1: States will provide weapons up to a certain level. You

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Speaker 1: can have anti aircraft weapons, but you can't have jets.

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Speaker 1: You can have certain materials, but we're gonna draw the

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Speaker 1: line and how we ship them in. We should be

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Speaker 1: very clear, why are we drawing those lines because we

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Speaker 1: think we go to war with Russia otherwise exactly. So

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Speaker 1: now we look at what's the situation with Taiwan. How

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Speaker 1: do you how do you think we're just gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna roll in there with everything we've got. I

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Speaker 1: don't think so, folks, And I don't even if this

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Speaker 1: all starts, because China's threatening to shut, shut, shoot down,

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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi's playing if she tries to pay a visit,

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Speaker 1: which I believe would be the first visit by a

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Speaker 1: Speaker of the House. If you're out there and you're saying,

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Speaker 1: why is this significant? It would be the first visit

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Speaker 1: of a Speaker of the House since New Gingrich I

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Speaker 1: think in ninety four. Look, she's got to go. I

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Speaker 1: mean that going now. You know you can't if you

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Speaker 1: if you allow the perception to be that China con

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Speaker 1: dictate US foreign policy. We got big problems. So she's

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Speaker 1: got to go. But it's gonna be it's gonna be tense. Clay,

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Speaker 1: there is no doubt that we are in an incredibly fraught,

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Speaker 1: perilous time. Whereas you just heard President Trump with us

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Speaker 1: in the first hour we just played the cut again,

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Speaker 1: talked about the possibility of World War three. We'll continue

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Speaker 1: to break down. It's Friday. I promise we will take

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