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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Reality the King, I am sitting
Speaker 1: with the star honey of one of my favorite shows
Speaker 1: that I really want you guys to watch in tune in.
Speaker 1: I think y'all are sleeping on it as if you
Speaker 1: are listening to a calm app and I need y'all
Speaker 1: to wake the f up. Please give it up for
Speaker 1: Summer House, Martha's Vineyard's own jazz Man, Hey rain drafts. Hey, Carlos,
Speaker 1: you got the white collar rain drop jazzmin of course
Speaker 1: with my.
Speaker 2: Rain drop, Like, honestly, you break things down. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna lie. I was a little nervous because I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you can't. Carlos is a scholar when it comes to this. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is this is nothing like your regular decular. So
Speaker 2: I'm very honest to be here. I'm very much a
Speaker 2: rain drop, and I'm gonna say it on what you do.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm a fan of yours and I thank you
Speaker 1: for that. Like you said, we're both rain white studious.
Speaker 1: Yes you know it's giving version.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm born again right.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of being born, congratulations on the new Bundle
Speaker 1: of Joy. You know what we saw in the most
Speaker 1: recent episode was the beautiful announcement of you surprising the kids.
Speaker 1: I call you'all kids because I'm like double all age,
Speaker 1: but I thought your announcement to them with baby Cooper
Speaker 1: was so funny. But congratulations. How does it feel being
Speaker 1: a momy?
Speaker 2: Honestly, to be real with you, I love it here
Speaker 2: and I have a lot of anxiety entering motherhood. Like
Speaker 2: I knew I always wanted to be a mom, but
Speaker 2: I think we hear too much about the trials and
Speaker 2: tribulations and not enough about like the good stuff. And
Speaker 2: I'm just pleasantly surprised that it's more good than bad.
Speaker 2: I think more good than sleepless nights. I'll put it
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I have been telling the rain
Speaker 1: Drop since season one that you guys are sleeping on
Speaker 1: Summer's house Martha's vineyard. And our mutual friend Jasmine Hilly,
Speaker 1: who's a fan favorite, Hey Jazz, Hey Jazz. We both
Speaker 1: have such affection for this show. But I want to
Speaker 1: get to know you because when season one started, I
Speaker 1: did call you the force multiplier.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, listen, let me grab my crowd somewhere,
Speaker 2: because I said, no, he did not. You know what,
Speaker 2: let me keep my head down the side. But I
Speaker 2: get what you mean. As a storyteller, I get what
Speaker 2: you met.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you know the thing is this, and you
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong. So I want to hear
Speaker 1: the story about how you were cast to be on
Speaker 1: the show, because for me, I feel like the show
Speaker 1: was centered around you.
Speaker 2: I get this question all the time, as the honest
Speaker 2: answer is, I can't speak to what happened before me,
Speaker 2: but I know when it was insert jazz in here.
Speaker 2: I received a call and I thought that I was
Speaker 2: tasked to educate about the vineyard. I'm a history girly,
Speaker 2: as y'all know, and I was just excited to talk
Speaker 2: about this place that not a lot of us black
Speaker 2: folk know about and haven't been to. But then we
Speaker 2: started talking about my life and my husband and my
Speaker 2: friends and the original trip that we took. So originally
Speaker 2: I went with Stylis and that's the trip that he
Speaker 2: asked me to be his girlfriend. That was twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: my first time there. The next year, we took a
Speaker 2: group of sixteen of our friends and let me just
Speaker 2: add this disclaimer, only one of them was a couple.
Speaker 2: Everybody else was single. Okay, we love our friends, our
Speaker 2: single friends, our married friends, so we always try to
Speaker 2: get together and have a good time no matter where
Speaker 2: we're going. But on that trip, Jordan was there, and
Speaker 2: I don't know the inner workings prior to, but I
Speaker 2: ended up speaking to someone about just that trip. When
Speaker 2: do we go? Who was there? And from that you
Speaker 2: see a lot of the folks that were there, Jason, Mariah, Chanise,
Speaker 2: Jordan Preston wasn't able to go, but he was invited,
Speaker 2: and neither was Nick or Alex. Alex was doing his
Speaker 2: own thing in Brooklyn, but a lot of us were
Speaker 2: there on that first big group trips and the rest
Speaker 2: is kind of history. I remember Colin Silas like, Hey,
Speaker 2: how do you feel about doing reality? And he was
Speaker 2: just very confused. But yeah, just went through the process,
Speaker 2: as you know, because you are on both.
Speaker 1: Did they reach out to you or did you see
Speaker 1: like a casting bulletin.
Speaker 2: I didn't see it, Honestly, I didn't see a casting
Speaker 2: bulletin at all. I just knew that I have a
Speaker 2: lot of incredible friends. Like the portion of friends you
Speaker 2: see on the show is just like a small amount
Speaker 2: of our friends. And I refer like everybody because I
Speaker 2: love my friends, think they're great, and most importantly, I
Speaker 2: feel like they all bring something different. And if we're
Speaker 2: going to highlight a place like Marcus Vineyard, variety is
Speaker 2: great too. Like we're not a monolith. We know that.
Speaker 2: So they gravitated towards who they liked.
Speaker 1: The producers reach out to you first.
Speaker 2: No, Jordan put me in contact with someone that I
Speaker 2: started talking to about the history, and they start asking
Speaker 2: me more about myself, so I get what it made
Speaker 2: sense to kind of recreate the trip that Stylace and
Speaker 2: I put together originally got it.
Speaker 1: Another lot of makes sense. A lot makes sense. Were
Speaker 1: you fen of reality television prior to being on this show?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think I'd be here. No, But I was
Speaker 2: absolutely a fan. I was a Potomac girl. You could
Speaker 2: not tell me nothing about Potomac From season one. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is what I love to see
Speaker 2: because it was Patty drama, it was decorum and the
Speaker 2: social politics. It was like a fun key. Of course,
Speaker 2: I've spent most of my life in Atlanta, so of
Speaker 2: course I watched Atlanta. The list goes on and on,
Speaker 2: but yes, that was a reality girl.
Speaker 1: What was the biggest thing that surprised you being on
Speaker 1: a reality show versus what you thought watching it?
Speaker 2: Honestly, the listening skills that you need. I think it's
Speaker 2: easy as we live, like our regular lives to kind
Speaker 2: of just be in your own little world and have
Speaker 2: your thoughts and engage with this person and that person.
Speaker 2: But in this setting, your mind's going a mile a
Speaker 2: minute because there's so much to keep up with, because
Speaker 2: there's so many things going at once. And what surprised
Speaker 2: me was how much I wasn't keeping up with with
Speaker 2: a lot of us in the house while you were filming. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't think that that would have to be a
Speaker 2: ministry listening. I thought it was a great listener. Apparently
Speaker 2: not so. Yeah, the amount of attention you have to
Speaker 2: pay to everything going on in front of the camera
Speaker 2: and behind.
Speaker 1: You have to especially because listen, well, we know what
Speaker 1: reality is this there's always a bone collector, hey, Charay.
Speaker 1: So the thing with a bone collector is they listen
Speaker 1: to everything and they kind of go back and report
Speaker 1: to the other folks what was said about them. And
Speaker 1: then when you get confronted and they said did you
Speaker 1: say this about me? And you like, wait did?
Speaker 2: I Like?
Speaker 1: I don't remember. So one of the qualities of being
Speaker 1: a reality star, you are right, you have to listen
Speaker 1: because things can come back to you or things can
Speaker 1: be said. Is especially if you're friends with somebody and
Speaker 1: they're like, yo, do you remember this, You're like, child,
Speaker 1: I was too busy, drunk or thinking about other things.
Speaker 1: And the difference with your show is it's a house
Speaker 1: reality show. So you guys are filming around the clock
Speaker 1: for a few weeks, versus a Potomac right, or a
Speaker 1: housewife's show where you're filming three to four days a
Speaker 1: week for four to five months, so it's less intensity.
Speaker 1: So when the cameras were in your home in the
Speaker 1: home excuse me, and you were being watched twenty four
Speaker 1: seven Big Brother Style, was that weird for you at first?
Speaker 2: Yes, because to be honest, you know, you're the elders
Speaker 2: start talking to you, especially being in the age group
Speaker 2: that we're in. Yeah, I heard my mom's voice, my
Speaker 2: grandma's voice, and I think kind of we all did.
Speaker 2: Don't you have us looking stupid on this show? I
Speaker 2: think in the beginning that is going to naturally play
Speaker 2: a part in how you're processing everything happening around you.
Speaker 2: And I know for me that was at play for sure,
Speaker 2: because I love my grandma, like that's my girl, So
Speaker 2: I would never want to do anything to disappoint her
Speaker 2: or you know, make someone else look crazy. But at
Speaker 2: some point I'm brushing my teeth, I'm grabbing my scarf
Speaker 2: we do on laundry. It immediately just you forget.
Speaker 1: Well we saw that jazzman because you and your husband
Speaker 1: forgot that the word cameras in your bed room, and
Speaker 1: we saw a bunch of humping and bumping and noises
Speaker 1: being made.
Speaker 2: The baby is not an immaculate consumption.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean y'all got it in almost every day,
Speaker 1: Jazz main I recall.
Speaker 2: But you know, I didn't think it was that interesting
Speaker 2: because because that's my that's my African, that's my husband.
Speaker 2: But okay, I guess go.
Speaker 1: About Africa, you already drop baby. Yeah, I didn't think.
Speaker 2: It was gonna be top of I didn't think it
Speaker 2: was gonna be top of news of the day, you know.
Speaker 2: But okay, at least you know, at least you don't.
Speaker 2: We like each other. We're at tracking to each other.
Speaker 2: This is great and healthy.
Speaker 1: And listen, these Africans they wanted every day girl.
Speaker 2: Listen, no comment.
Speaker 1: But you know what was funny is now I see
Speaker 1: why Silence is like the person I would tell our
Speaker 1: mutual friend Jasmine. I'd be like, Silence is more of
Speaker 1: the guys that I talked to. And now I see
Speaker 1: why because the thing about him. The first season and
Speaker 1: your first season of the show, obviously there were tons
Speaker 1: of concern about your relationship with him. A lot of
Speaker 1: people felt extremely demanding. They didn't like the way he
Speaker 1: spoke to you, Jasmine. They didn't like the way he
Speaker 1: sort of expected you to be this housewife, to be
Speaker 1: somebody who iron his clothes, picked out his clothes, and
Speaker 1: fixed him a plate, these things that black men historically
Speaker 1: look to their wives to do, especially you know, first
Speaker 1: generation Africans as well. When you saw it play out
Speaker 1: on the show, and obviously you are new reality stars,
Speaker 1: so rightfully so you're reading a lot of comments and
Speaker 1: a lot of people had a lot of judgment on
Speaker 1: your relationship. Did you have moments where you sort of
Speaker 1: saw your life play out, saw your marriage play out,
Speaker 1: saw the dynamic playout. Did you sometimes question like, oh
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was like this, or do people
Speaker 1: have a point and I should be concerned?
Speaker 2: On one hand, I know that was our first I
Speaker 2: know that was my first time with him talking to
Speaker 2: me like that, because a lot of times that we
Speaker 2: were there in the house, I was like are you good?
Speaker 2: Are you good? And they didn't always make the cut,
Speaker 2: but I really was picking up on like what's wrong
Speaker 2: with you? Like the extra irritable that you have, couple irritability.
Speaker 2: But that was just like everything was something was being
Speaker 2: made into something, So that was a first for us.
Speaker 2: But a year later, when you're watching it play out
Speaker 2: and people are commenting on it, I absolutely agreed with
Speaker 2: don't talk to me like that, like that's unacceptable, Like
Speaker 2: that's just my opinion on it. I don't recommend anybody.
Speaker 2: That's not how I communicate now hindsight to have other
Speaker 2: people comment and really deduce him to I don't know,
Speaker 2: just so old school and ungrateful. That's just that's not him.
Speaker 2: And the reality is this vacation filmed versus the one
Speaker 2: we took pride with the big group. He and I
Speaker 2: did the same stuff, like I still got everyone on
Speaker 2: the grocery list, coordinated venmos and cash apps, and I
Speaker 2: operated in the same way, and so did he. The
Speaker 2: only difference is that he was working this time and
Speaker 2: we were filmed, and last time those two things weren't true.
Speaker 2: But it was shocking, just the visceral response, and that's
Speaker 2: really hard to process. I think anybody you love, especially
Speaker 2: in partnership, your natural responses to come to their defense.
Speaker 2: But I think because I'm confident in who he is
Speaker 2: and what I will and when I accept, and then
Speaker 2: also where we are it balanced out all the negativity.
Speaker 2: And the most important thing to me isn't someone making
Speaker 2: a mistake, as y'all see, like I give a lot
Speaker 2: of grace to a lot of folks, but only so long,
Speaker 2: only so much. It's really how someone responds when they've
Speaker 2: done wrong, That's what That's what matters to me. And
Speaker 2: he never had any excuse and that took out more
Speaker 2: than anything to me.
Speaker 1: How did he feel seeing himself?
Speaker 2: It was hard, Oh my god, it was so hard,
Speaker 2: Like he would start to watch, especially towards the end
Speaker 2: of the season, because we would just watch it together
Speaker 2: because we know what we went through in terms of filming,
Speaker 2: but how it comes together that's out of our control.
Speaker 2: So it was tough. To put it simple. It was
Speaker 2: really really tough for him because he also didn't recognize
Speaker 2: him speaking to me that way. It was tough, but
Speaker 2: he had to. Whether he got through all the episodes,
Speaker 2: the last episode he has not watched all the way through.
Speaker 1: If he wasn't deployed, do you think he would have
Speaker 1: came back for a season two?
Speaker 2: I think so, because one we're not quitters. That's just
Speaker 2: what we've been through worse things in life as y'all
Speaker 2: know than this. And then two, I would have encouraged
Speaker 2: him to come back just because you got to get
Speaker 2: back up. People are allowed to have your opinions. I mean, heck,
Speaker 2: we've watched so many shows on Bravo before even joining
Speaker 2: the Ravo family and had our opinions, So I think
Speaker 2: reminding him of that, he definitely would have been open to.
Speaker 1: Coming back when it comes to your marriage now, because
Speaker 1: the thing that I thought was so interesting was the
Speaker 1: fact that you two were still getting to know each
Speaker 1: other in a sense right because everything again, it's my
Speaker 1: match's point. Watching the show, I felt like everything moved fast,
Speaker 1: at accelerated pace, and that you guys were essentially milliweds,
Speaker 1: and I know what it's like to be in a
Speaker 1: relationship with somebody and then the moment you live together,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is how you are, and it's
Speaker 1: not like this person has changed. It's more so like
Speaker 1: I have to adapt in this new role of us
Speaker 1: coexisting in the same space. And I felt like watching
Speaker 1: you guys, I felt you guys represented a lot of
Speaker 1: young married couples in the sense of we're kind of
Speaker 1: milliweds and we're also you guys are watching us trying
Speaker 1: to get to know each other on a different level.
Speaker 1: And Michelle Obama spoke about this too, where she said like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: there'll be days you like them and there'll be days
Speaker 1: you don't. There'll be moments where you like, you walk
Speaker 1: in a house and you be like, damn.
Speaker 2: You still here?
Speaker 1: Shit, you forget that we live together, okay, because ooh,
Speaker 1: so people have this assumption that marriage is a fairy tale.
Speaker 1: And the one thing I wanted to express to you
Speaker 1: and to him is I applaud the two of you
Speaker 1: for showcasing what another side of black love looks like,
Speaker 1: because you know, when we hear black love, people think
Speaker 1: it's like a lot of people thought it was Barack
Speaker 1: and Michelle until Michelle said, we ain't a couple of goals, baby,
Speaker 1: let me tell you how it really is, and she
Speaker 1: allowed her and Barack to be seen on a very
Speaker 1: relatable stage. And I felt like for you two as
Speaker 1: young couples, I feel like you two represented that as well.
Speaker 1: But do you feel like people forgot that fact that
Speaker 1: you two were like kind of nearly as in figuring
Speaker 1: this shit out too.
Speaker 2: I think you touch on something that's actually so one
Speaker 2: of the biggest reasons why he would have come back
Speaker 2: is because I can't look around and see a lot
Speaker 2: of black young couples on reality television, let alone television period.
Speaker 2: So that's an honor in and of itself. And I
Speaker 2: do think there is this idea that they just wake
Speaker 2: up with their planners out, are always on the same page,
Speaker 2: getting their coffee looking at each other. No, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: So I always appreciate our former first lady for being
Speaker 2: real about that, because we do put them on a pedestal.
Speaker 2: But even those two were a couple before we knew them. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have your ups and downs, But keep in mind,
Speaker 2: we met in twenty twenty, got engaged very top of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, moved in a couple months after, and
Speaker 2: he went away from his corporate job to start military
Speaker 2: training for six months. Right after that was our wedding,
Speaker 2: So it's not really more so that we got to
Speaker 2: get used to each other living in each other's space.
Speaker 2: We actually are really good teammates in that regard. But
Speaker 2: this big thing that happened was him going away in
Speaker 2: this completely different military environment and coming back and having
Speaker 2: this wedding and then joining a show I think because
Speaker 2: no matter how many times people hear that, I don't
Speaker 2: think that if people put themselves in that scenario they
Speaker 2: can even know how they would navigate that. I think
Speaker 2: that's what's easy to forget that that's just not normal.
Speaker 1: Martha's Vineyard is a town that I've heard about for
Speaker 1: years where it was the top designation for you know,
Speaker 1: upper echelon black folks to you know, partake in the
Speaker 1: surroundings in the summer. Yeah, and it's very high esteemed.
Speaker 3: Very talented, tempt Yes, exactly exactly was the toime receptive
Speaker 3: to you guys being there because it's you know, it
Speaker 3: has a lot of higher up echelon people who are
Speaker 3: a part of it is their legacy as well.
Speaker 2: Well. To be honest, I still don't know. What I've
Speaker 2: heard from my older mentors, who are very much connected
Speaker 2: with other women that do summer on the vineyard is
Speaker 2: they don't mind that we're getting this opportunity. That's fine,
Speaker 2: but they got their limits and their boundaries. What those
Speaker 2: are I don't know. But one thing I had to
Speaker 2: remind myself is it should be allowed for however we are,
Speaker 2: as young black folks, to just exist in vacation so
Speaker 2: all that pressure that I can't speak for everybody else
Speaker 2: on the show, but I can speak for me, all
Speaker 2: that pressure of who am I Jasmine Minister Marie's grand
Speaker 2: baby from Saint Louis to represent this community. I had
Speaker 2: to let that go because I'm allowed to live my life.
Speaker 2: I know the amount of integrity that I come with,
Speaker 2: and as a group, we're allowed to just have a
Speaker 2: good time. Like it's called Summerhouse, it's a vacation. Things happen,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I have nothing but respect for them, But
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe they can join two.
Speaker 1: Are they invited? Because we don't want them to be
Speaker 1: kicked out the way y'all did Phil and Mariah.
Speaker 2: This is not Survivor. This is not Summer House Survivor.
Speaker 2: I promise it's not. But yes, they're invited. Everybody's invites
Speaker 2: you to cook out. It's a vineyard when you go,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a very welcoming energy. So we have that.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you what my eyeball saw, honey.
Speaker 1: Season two is everything. We're loving season two and obviously
Speaker 1: in the most recent episode, you know, we saw Phil
Speaker 1: talk to Preston and there's conversation Maria and Phil coming back.
Speaker 1: I was not happy when Mariah and Phil Werson home, right,
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you why. I think me and
Speaker 1: you and our white shirts with Africans are going to
Speaker 1: think the same thing too, child. So I felt like, okay,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with them being there? Like, let's not divide
Speaker 1: the sort of social circles of black people in that space.
Speaker 1: And although one may not be, not my words, a
Speaker 1: lot of people the most polished, right, doesn't mean they
Speaker 1: can't coexist in our science. Because I'm from Detroit and
Speaker 1: like I said, I grew up not with a silver spoon, honey,
Speaker 1: it was definitely a plastic fork and again humble beginnings
Speaker 1: with a bougie mine. And the reason why I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people people were so triggered by Phil
Speaker 1: and Mariah being sent home because it felt like, what's
Speaker 1: wrong with them? Like we're not agreeing with Phil taking
Speaker 1: a dump and not flushing no toilet, but worst things
Speaker 1: have happened, like we got Bria with her dog honey
Speaker 1: do dooing on the carpet, the grass, the pool. But
Speaker 1: I think all of us felt like not all of us,
Speaker 1: A lot of us felt that, which.
Speaker 2: Is which is these are not like the other, Like,
Speaker 2: if we're gonna speak on it, let's speak on it.
Speaker 2: Are they uncouth? Is there an aesthetic? Like? What's wrong
Speaker 2: with what's what's different? What's the is? Are there undertones
Speaker 2: to this? You know what I mean? And the reality
Speaker 2: is no, I was there, so there wasn't. But I
Speaker 2: can completely understand how you get a side eye from that,
Speaker 2: because one, we didn't think anybody was gonna be voted home.
Speaker 2: That was gonna happen, period. And two why them that's valid?
Speaker 1: Was upsetting to you like it was to me and
Speaker 1: my homegirls.
Speaker 2: You upsetting me and my homegirls. I'll be honest, Phil,
Speaker 2: I didn't really know like that. So sorry to that man.
Speaker 2: I didn't know him. I never knew him like that. Mariah,
Speaker 2: that's my girl. That is my girl. So I'm the
Speaker 2: type of person and this can be a good thing
Speaker 2: and a bad things. I can be very diplomatic, I
Speaker 2: can be very maybe it's the capricorn to me, I'm
Speaker 2: very black and white. And so if we're setting a
Speaker 2: precedent of okay, this is a boundary. Now. Granted I
Speaker 2: never saw what happened until I watched with y'all so yes,
Speaker 2: I was frazzled with this position that I'm put in,
Speaker 2: which happened a lot. I feel like season one is
Speaker 2: that Stilas and Ira put to his parental roles before
Speaker 2: we've even became parents. But I did not feel like
Speaker 2: it was fair for Mariah or not speak her piece,
Speaker 2: at least because I had every intention as a peacemaker
Speaker 2: that I am to sit those two girls down, even
Speaker 2: though I was shading Bria all season one. I was
Speaker 2: never going to not have them sit down and talk
Speaker 2: about like we're grown, what is this, this is a
Speaker 2: big thing or not. But I didn't like coming across
Speaker 2: as like a not a good friend. And although Mariah's
Speaker 2: my best friend, I'm friends with everybody in the house.
Speaker 2: So imagine being in that situation where you truly are
Speaker 2: you have a relationship with everybody and then looking at
Speaker 2: you like get your homegirl. That's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 2: That is a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: How did Mariah feel after she got sent home?
Speaker 2: She definitely felt she definitely felt betrayed, betrayed by me,
Speaker 2: but then also by some of the girls that were
Speaker 2: all on my Bachelor trip Bachelorett trip months before. So yeah,
Speaker 2: she definitely felt like, did I really know y'all? Like
Speaker 2: why me? And I get it because I can live
Speaker 2: with the news to her, but no.
Speaker 1: So this season is so good, Jasmine, and it's nice
Speaker 1: to see the gang back together, and obviously we have
Speaker 1: some new additions as well. When it comes to a
Speaker 1: second season of any show, when people see themselves on
Speaker 1: season one, one or two things happen, or sometimes both.
Speaker 1: You get the well, I'm the star, and I mean
Speaker 1: I'm the fan favorite, so like whatever, So that happens,
Speaker 1: the ego starts to form, right because being a reality start,
Speaker 1: you're famous overnight, literally overnight.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right. The other thing that happens is people start to
Speaker 1: censor themselves because they saw how the audience responded to
Speaker 1: them season one, and they come second season they're not
Speaker 1: as vocal or they act different because they're like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that because I don't want people to
Speaker 1: say this, or no I'm not doing I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say all of that because if I say that, they're
Speaker 1: gonna take it this way, right, blah blah blah. Did
Speaker 1: you see some of those things happening coming into season two?
Speaker 2: I wasn't really hanging out with everybody like that, so
Speaker 2: I wasn't even in the mix prior to walking back
Speaker 2: into the house, to be honest, so I can only
Speaker 2: speak for me. I feel like for myself and Alex
Speaker 2: and Nice, what I'm proud of us for individually is
Speaker 2: opening up and being more vocal about just who we
Speaker 2: are and how we feel about things. That was the
Speaker 2: musk for me, because season one was it was cool,
Speaker 2: then it was humbling. That was the musk for me
Speaker 2: going into for other people, I'm not gonna lie. I
Speaker 2: kind of feel like everybody's more of themselves, if like
Speaker 2: more of what we saw season one, Like I don't
Speaker 2: really see any one eighties for real.
Speaker 1: Did anybody develop an ego?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Those swelled up, those swoll up, I feel for
Speaker 2: some people, for some people, and it's not even like
Speaker 2: an ego and a bad thing. It's kind of a
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit to do with kind
Speaker 2: of where we are society wise, and we're very individualistic
Speaker 2: and it's very like I gotta do this, me, me, me,
Speaker 2: Like what am I doing? I gotta get to where
Speaker 2: I want to go. Like, I think it's more so
Speaker 2: from that and culmination to probably feedback, but the fact
Speaker 2: that we haven't seen anybody go completely like one like
Speaker 2: who is this person? Speaks to the fact that no
Speaker 2: one really thought of them thought more of themselves in
Speaker 2: that way, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Who would you say developed the biggest ego.
Speaker 2: Jamaica crew the Jamaica crew less stay heard? Amen?
Speaker 1: So for those who may not know, can you explain
Speaker 1: who the crew is? For those who may not know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so some are put together a trip to Jamaica
Speaker 2: prior to filming, and that included I don't recall all
Speaker 2: was invited initially, but that included who actually went summer herself, Preston,
Speaker 2: Jordan and Shinis. They went to Jamaica, had a good
Speaker 2: old time, a good old key and you know, they
Speaker 2: enjoyed themselves to the fullest.
Speaker 1: Are they still enjoying themselves to the fullest?
Speaker 2: I mean, there's definitely trouble in paradise the Jamaica crew is.
Speaker 2: They're not exactly where they were when we started the season.
Speaker 2: So I can't win them all.
Speaker 1: I guess, well, no, you can't win them all and
Speaker 1: the one so I don't have favorites, but I because
Speaker 1: I love the cast. One of the ones who I
Speaker 1: just think is great television because I've never seen anything
Speaker 1: liking on TV before. I really do like Nick.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, tell me Moore.
Speaker 1: Nick is a He's a quiet hit. And what that
Speaker 1: means is it's not every day on reality TV you
Speaker 1: see a black man who is not only very much
Speaker 1: into the esthetic, like into the fascists, into their looks
Speaker 1: and their parents, and who isn't hyper masculine. And you know, like,
Speaker 1: what I love about him is I feel like he's
Speaker 1: so authentically him, you know, and he lives in his
Speaker 1: own skin and as a black man in this space
Speaker 1: and always being around black men my whole life, right,
Speaker 1: I know that sometimes as a black man, and I'll
Speaker 1: speak for black men as a black man, when you're
Speaker 1: around other black men, sometimes you feel the need to
Speaker 1: sort of like be this tough guy or like be
Speaker 1: a hyper masculine.
Speaker 2: No, none of, none of. Honestly, my favorite part of
Speaker 2: our show are the men, and I could honestly say
Speaker 2: that has never happened amongst them ever last season. This season,
Speaker 2: they have this great camaraderie that I just wish you
Speaker 2: could see more of. To be honest, They're my favorite
Speaker 2: part of our show, hands down, because they're all so different,
Speaker 2: each and every one of them has had such a
Speaker 2: tender moment, an authentic moment, an honest moment, a goofy moment,
Speaker 2: and they really do let each other just be and
Speaker 2: support each other, like the brotherhood is real, and I
Speaker 2: personally love to see it and I would love to
Speaker 2: see more of it. But it's interesting you mentioned Nick
Speaker 2: because Nick and I weren't the closest, not in terms
Speaker 2: of any friction. We just, I guess, gravitated towards other
Speaker 2: sides of the group, and we realize that after filming
Speaker 2: this season. But I agree with you and that there
Speaker 2: is a delicate nature to how he wants to be
Speaker 2: soft with how he's presented himself in a good way,
Speaker 2: like what she sees, what you get. You're gonna get
Speaker 2: this purple label, but what she sees what you get.
Speaker 2: And I do think every one of them have are
Speaker 2: really just I can't even find the word for it,
Speaker 2: which is shocking.
Speaker 1: No, I think they're all just refreshingly themselves and as
Speaker 1: nice as seems. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's refreshing. And
Speaker 1: I felt I want to I want to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts on it, because when the conversation came up amongst
Speaker 1: the group, that Nick was handsy. How did you feel
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I was like quietly on pins and needles, because
Speaker 2: here's what happened off season. To my knowledge, Jordan's summer
Speaker 2: pressing and Nick were like a square. They were all
Speaker 2: very close. And so when it started to be talked
Speaker 2: about from Jordan in summer, I'm like, well, am I
Speaker 2: missing something? Because y'all did get really close, Like it's comfortable,
Speaker 2: Like you said, it's comfortability. How it comes across on
Speaker 2: screen is how it is in real life. And I
Speaker 2: was nervous for him to be honest, because are we
Speaker 2: going somewhere that we can't walk back. Let's be very
Speaker 2: specific and how we speak about this and what questions
Speaker 2: we ask and how we bring it up in this setting.
Speaker 2: So when it got to a point where he just
Speaker 2: went upstairs to talk to Jordan in summer, watching that,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, so you did just
Speaker 2: go to dem and talks to him. Okay, cool, you
Speaker 2: can hash it out. I felt so relieved, And I
Speaker 2: honestly felt like, I don't know if we've seen this
Speaker 2: on TV where someone was like validated so quickly and
Speaker 2: something that really could have gone left. I felt very
Speaker 2: happy for him because I know he has the best intentions.
Speaker 2: I know that, and even if it's hard to read
Speaker 2: sometimes he's always a person that's happy to talk about it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was nervous, but I was very happy
Speaker 2: that everyone was like, no, this makes sense, not to
Speaker 2: invalidate jordan in Summer's feelings or any of the other girls,
Speaker 2: but it really didn't come up to being more like
Speaker 2: when you're drunk, you just get real like life of
Speaker 2: the party. Hey, y'all, da da da da, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, and I thought, listen, I'll give everyone
Speaker 1: credit involved for having the conversation. I give Nick the
Speaker 1: credit for immediately confronting a hit on, like, hey, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about this, like do y'all think it's
Speaker 1: about me? And I appreciate the women for feeling safe
Speaker 1: enough to say, well, y'all, we feel this way, and
Speaker 1: well we don't think it's that, but we're just you
Speaker 1: know whatever. So I thought it was a very mature conversation.
Speaker 2: But I can see how Nick might be like, so,
Speaker 2: if y'all did feel that way, then what do we
Speaker 2: talk about? I can tell he was still processing that
Speaker 2: for sure, and I understood because I'm just like, should
Speaker 2: I change how I'm interacting with the if I were him?
Speaker 2: Should I change HOWM interacting with the women? Or is
Speaker 2: it was it just a one off? That's what's unclear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, congratulations, it's been announced that you guys are
Speaker 1: getting a reunion. When it comes to reunion, we know
Speaker 1: the importance of having first chair, right, I've heard who
Speaker 1: should have the first seat next to Andy at the reunion?
Speaker 1: There's two first seats.
Speaker 2: I know. I'm just gonna preface by saying this, this
Speaker 2: is so hard, and I've also been like, I've seen
Speaker 2: it on social media, the conversation, and I see what
Speaker 2: the folks are saying. But we kind of touch it
Speaker 2: on two seasons, and there is no clear one villain
Speaker 2: this season. It's a couple of them. So are we
Speaker 2: going who's the villain? Or we're going with story. I
Speaker 2: don't know if we're going with Sorry, I just feel
Speaker 2: like one of those shares should be mine. I mean
Speaker 2: left or right. I mean I'm not hard to please. Okay, No,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very honest with you. This goes without saying.
Speaker 2: It's not to diminish anybody else, but the rate in
Speaker 2: which my life has been shared and what I have
Speaker 2: openly let everybody into. I think that is of note.
Speaker 1: So who's if you and the first seat, who should
Speaker 1: be opposite of you?
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with who I think I will
Speaker 2: have fun being opposite in me. I have to say, Preston,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just feel like I just feel
Speaker 2: like we took my answer.
Speaker 1: I was thinking you and Preston as well.
Speaker 2: I just feel like, because let me tell you why, Preston,
Speaker 2: We're not exactly the same, right, But I feel like
Speaker 2: he also He's I don't want to sound ageus, but
Speaker 2: he and Nick are the oldest, and I do feel
Speaker 2: like Preston has this elderly statesman era to him, but
Speaker 2: he knows how to give a good read. So you're
Speaker 2: thinking about in terms of where my head wants to
Speaker 2: turn to, I just want to look across.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So my prediction is it's you and
Speaker 1: Preston as well. That's so funny.
Speaker 2: Dang, I'm kind of sad we're in think I wanted
Speaker 2: like a different.
Speaker 1: Oh no, because the thing is this. Listen Carlos King's
Speaker 1: prediction and low key hope for the first chair at
Speaker 1: the Summerhouse, Martha's Vineyard Reunion is Jasmine and Preston should
Speaker 1: have first chair because you two are the force multipliers
Speaker 1: of the show. And although Bria is a great Villainy
Speaker 1: and Bria, that's a compliment. That's a compliment, by the way,
Speaker 1: don't take you you know, it's a huge one. It's
Speaker 1: a huge one. Although Bria is a villain, I think
Speaker 1: Preston will give a good o funny shade read moment.
Speaker 1: I think Andy is going to live for all the
Speaker 1: Preston's commentary. And I think you you have a way
Speaker 1: of explanation and decorum and your whimsical but you're also,
Speaker 1: like you said, you have a lot of story. And listen,
Speaker 1: dare I say, I think in terms of the women,
Speaker 1: to me, you're the face of the show. So thank you.
Speaker 1: It has to be you, and that's why you're talking
Speaker 1: to me first while I'm talking to you. Although I
Speaker 1: love all the girls and the.
Speaker 2: Guys, extremely humble love that for you. No, I mean,
Speaker 2: here's the thing. It's what I do love about this season, honestly,
Speaker 2: is that, like I said, there's no clear villain. Everyone
Speaker 2: has a moment and some of the girls are rubbing
Speaker 2: people the wrong way. That's why I said there's not
Speaker 2: one villain, there's actually like three because everyone has a
Speaker 2: different point of friction that is unsettling the group, so
Speaker 2: you can't. But that's why I didn't go with one
Speaker 2: person for a chair, because it's like there's three, especially
Speaker 2: if you look at social media right now and if
Speaker 2: you just watch as the episodes are playing out. Like
Speaker 2: I said, it's not black and white, it's very gray.
Speaker 1: Let the rain drops know, honey, what they can expect
Speaker 1: from the rest of the season of Summer House Martha's
Speaker 1: Vineyard that y'all can catch every Sunday at nine o'clock
Speaker 1: a Central on bra Yes.
Speaker 2: And Mondays on Peacock. I think this last episode I
Speaker 2: announced it I'm Pregnant, was a nice holid cleanser. But
Speaker 2: the rest of the season you're going to really see
Speaker 2: why this group specifically has so many layers, like we're
Speaker 2: all onions and with the significant others coming and you know,
Speaker 2: Mariah and Phil making a little though as you saw
Speaker 2: on the previews, it is a recipe for hopefully a
Speaker 2: greenlit season three. That's what I will say.
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