1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Hey rain Drops. Yes, so I finally got merch. That's right. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: You can buy your Allegedly and my Boys mugs, T shirts, 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: rain Drops, hoodies and T shirts all on Carlos Kingshop 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: dot com. That's right. Get your hoodies, your T shirts, 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: and your mugs all on Carlos Kingshop dot com. Welcome 6 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos kings the 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: King of Reality TV and one of the most sought 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: after executive producers in reality television with over ten years 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King, 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: recap our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable moments that 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: we are still talking and tweeting about, Hey rain Drops. 13 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: On today's episode of Reality the King, I am sitting 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: with the star honey of one of my favorite shows 15 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: that I really want you guys to watch in tune in. 16 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: I think y'all are sleeping on it as if you 17 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: are listening to a calm app and I need y'all 18 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: to wake the f up. Please give it up for 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: Summer House, Martha's Vineyard's own jazz Man, Hey rain drafts. Hey, Carlos, 20 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: you got the white collar rain drop jazzmin of course 21 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: with my. 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: Rain drop, Like, honestly, you break things down. I'm not 23 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: gonna lie. I was a little nervous because I was like, oh, 24 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: you can't. Carlos is a scholar when it comes to this. Okay, 25 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: this is this is nothing like your regular decular. So 26 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: I'm very honest to be here. I'm very much a 27 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: rain drop, and I'm gonna say it on what you do. 28 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: Well, I'm a fan of yours and I thank you 29 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: for that. Like you said, we're both rain white studious. 30 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: Yes you know it's giving version. 31 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm born again right. 32 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of being born, congratulations on the new Bundle 33 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: of Joy. You know what we saw in the most 34 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: recent episode was the beautiful announcement of you surprising the kids. 35 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I call you'all kids because I'm like double all age, 36 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: but I thought your announcement to them with baby Cooper 37 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: was so funny. But congratulations. How does it feel being 38 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: a momy? 39 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: Honestly, to be real with you, I love it here 40 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: and I have a lot of anxiety entering motherhood. Like 41 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: I knew I always wanted to be a mom, but 42 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: I think we hear too much about the trials and 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: tribulations and not enough about like the good stuff. And 44 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: I'm just pleasantly surprised that it's more good than bad. 45 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: I think more good than sleepless nights. I'll put it 46 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: that way. 47 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I have been telling the rain 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: Drop since season one that you guys are sleeping on 49 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: Summer's house Martha's vineyard. And our mutual friend Jasmine Hilly, 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: who's a fan favorite, Hey Jazz, Hey Jazz. We both 51 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: have such affection for this show. But I want to 52 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: get to know you because when season one started, I 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: did call you the force multiplier. 54 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, listen, let me grab my crowd somewhere, 55 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: because I said, no, he did not. You know what, 56 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: let me keep my head down the side. But I 57 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: get what you mean. As a storyteller, I get what 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: you met. 59 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you know the thing is this, and you 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong. So I want to hear 61 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: the story about how you were cast to be on 62 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: the show, because for me, I feel like the show 63 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: was centered around you. 64 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: I get this question all the time, as the honest 65 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: answer is, I can't speak to what happened before me, 66 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: but I know when it was insert jazz in here. 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: I received a call and I thought that I was 68 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: tasked to educate about the vineyard. I'm a history girly, 69 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: as y'all know, and I was just excited to talk 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: about this place that not a lot of us black 71 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: folk know about and haven't been to. But then we 72 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: started talking about my life and my husband and my 73 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: friends and the original trip that we took. So originally 74 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: I went with Stylis and that's the trip that he 75 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: asked me to be his girlfriend. That was twenty twenty, 76 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: my first time there. The next year, we took a 77 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 2: group of sixteen of our friends and let me just 78 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: add this disclaimer, only one of them was a couple. 79 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: Everybody else was single. Okay, we love our friends, our 80 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: single friends, our married friends, so we always try to 81 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: get together and have a good time no matter where 82 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: we're going. But on that trip, Jordan was there, and 83 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: I don't know the inner workings prior to, but I 84 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: ended up speaking to someone about just that trip. When 85 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: do we go? Who was there? And from that you 86 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: see a lot of the folks that were there, Jason, Mariah, Chanise, 87 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: Jordan Preston wasn't able to go, but he was invited, 88 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: and neither was Nick or Alex. Alex was doing his 89 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: own thing in Brooklyn, but a lot of us were 90 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: there on that first big group trips and the rest 91 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: is kind of history. I remember Colin Silas like, Hey, 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: how do you feel about doing reality? And he was 93 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 2: just very confused. But yeah, just went through the process, 94 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: as you know, because you are on both. 95 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: Did they reach out to you or did you see 96 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: like a casting bulletin. 97 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: I didn't see it, Honestly, I didn't see a casting 98 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: bulletin at all. I just knew that I have a 99 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: lot of incredible friends. Like the portion of friends you 100 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: see on the show is just like a small amount 101 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: of our friends. And I refer like everybody because I 102 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: love my friends, think they're great, and most importantly, I 103 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: feel like they all bring something different. And if we're 104 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: going to highlight a place like Marcus Vineyard, variety is 105 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: great too. Like we're not a monolith. We know that. 106 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: So they gravitated towards who they liked. 107 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: The producers reach out to you first. 108 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: No, Jordan put me in contact with someone that I 109 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: started talking to about the history, and they start asking 110 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: me more about myself, so I get what it made 111 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: sense to kind of recreate the trip that Stylace and 112 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: I put together originally got it. 113 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: Another lot of makes sense. A lot makes sense. Were 114 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: you fen of reality television prior to being on this show? 115 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think I'd be here. No, But I was 116 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: absolutely a fan. I was a Potomac girl. You could 117 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: not tell me nothing about Potomac From season one. I 118 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is what I love to see 119 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: because it was Patty drama, it was decorum and the 120 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: social politics. It was like a fun key. Of course, 121 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: I've spent most of my life in Atlanta, so of 122 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: course I watched Atlanta. The list goes on and on, 123 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: but yes, that was a reality girl. 124 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: What was the biggest thing that surprised you being on 125 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: a reality show versus what you thought watching it? 126 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: Honestly, the listening skills that you need. I think it's 127 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: easy as we live, like our regular lives to kind 128 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: of just be in your own little world and have 129 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: your thoughts and engage with this person and that person. 130 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: But in this setting, your mind's going a mile a 131 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: minute because there's so much to keep up with, because 132 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: there's so many things going at once. And what surprised 133 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: me was how much I wasn't keeping up with with 134 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: a lot of us in the house while you were filming. Yeah, 135 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: I didn't think that that would have to be a 136 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: ministry listening. I thought it was a great listener. Apparently 137 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: not so. Yeah, the amount of attention you have to 138 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: pay to everything going on in front of the camera 139 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: and behind. 140 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: You have to especially because listen, well, we know what 141 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 1: reality is this there's always a bone collector, hey, Charay. 142 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: So the thing with a bone collector is they listen 143 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: to everything and they kind of go back and report 144 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: to the other folks what was said about them. And 145 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: then when you get confronted and they said did you 146 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: say this about me? And you like, wait did? 147 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: I Like? 148 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember. So one of the qualities of being 149 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: a reality star, you are right, you have to listen 150 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: because things can come back to you or things can 151 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: be said. Is especially if you're friends with somebody and 152 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: they're like, yo, do you remember this, You're like, child, 153 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: I was too busy, drunk or thinking about other things. 154 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: And the difference with your show is it's a house 155 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: reality show. So you guys are filming around the clock 156 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: for a few weeks, versus a Potomac right, or a 157 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: housewife's show where you're filming three to four days a 158 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: week for four to five months, so it's less intensity. 159 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: So when the cameras were in your home in the 160 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: home excuse me, and you were being watched twenty four 161 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: seven Big Brother Style, was that weird for you at first? 162 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: Yes, because to be honest, you know, you're the elders 163 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: start talking to you, especially being in the age group 164 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: that we're in. Yeah, I heard my mom's voice, my 165 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: grandma's voice, and I think kind of we all did. 166 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: Don't you have us looking stupid on this show? I 167 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: think in the beginning that is going to naturally play 168 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: a part in how you're processing everything happening around you. 169 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: And I know for me that was at play for sure, 170 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: because I love my grandma, like that's my girl, So 171 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: I would never want to do anything to disappoint her 172 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: or you know, make someone else look crazy. But at 173 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: some point I'm brushing my teeth, I'm grabbing my scarf 174 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: we do on laundry. It immediately just you forget. 175 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: Well we saw that jazzman because you and your husband 176 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: forgot that the word cameras in your bed room, and 177 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: we saw a bunch of humping and bumping and noises 178 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: being made. 179 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: The baby is not an immaculate consumption. 180 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean y'all got it in almost every day, 181 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: Jazz main I recall. 182 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: But you know, I didn't think it was that interesting 183 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: because because that's my that's my African, that's my husband. 184 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: But okay, I guess go. 185 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: About Africa, you already drop baby. Yeah, I didn't think. 186 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: It was gonna be top of I didn't think it 187 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: was gonna be top of news of the day, you know. 188 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: But okay, at least you know, at least you don't. 189 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: We like each other. We're at tracking to each other. 190 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: This is great and healthy. 191 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: And listen, these Africans they wanted every day girl. 192 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: Listen, no comment. 193 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: But you know what was funny is now I see 194 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: why Silence is like the person I would tell our 195 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: mutual friend Jasmine. I'd be like, Silence is more of 196 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: the guys that I talked to. And now I see 197 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: why because the thing about him. The first season and 198 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: your first season of the show, obviously there were tons 199 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: of concern about your relationship with him. A lot of 200 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: people felt extremely demanding. They didn't like the way he 201 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: spoke to you, Jasmine. They didn't like the way he 202 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: sort of expected you to be this housewife, to be 203 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: somebody who iron his clothes, picked out his clothes, and 204 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:06,239 Speaker 1: fixed him a plate, these things that black men historically 205 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: look to their wives to do, especially you know, first 206 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: generation Africans as well. When you saw it play out 207 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: on the show, and obviously you are new reality stars, 208 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: so rightfully so you're reading a lot of comments and 209 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people had a lot of judgment on 210 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: your relationship. Did you have moments where you sort of 211 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: saw your life play out, saw your marriage play out, 212 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: saw the dynamic playout. Did you sometimes question like, oh 213 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was like this, or do people 214 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: have a point and I should be concerned? 215 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: On one hand, I know that was our first I 216 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: know that was my first time with him talking to 217 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: me like that, because a lot of times that we 218 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: were there in the house, I was like are you good? 219 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: Are you good? And they didn't always make the cut, 220 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: but I really was picking up on like what's wrong 221 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: with you? Like the extra irritable that you have, couple irritability. 222 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: But that was just like everything was something was being 223 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: made into something, So that was a first for us. 224 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: But a year later, when you're watching it play out 225 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: and people are commenting on it, I absolutely agreed with 226 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: don't talk to me like that, like that's unacceptable, Like 227 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: that's just my opinion on it. I don't recommend anybody. 228 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: That's not how I communicate now hindsight to have other 229 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: people comment and really deduce him to I don't know, 230 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: just so old school and ungrateful. That's just that's not him. 231 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 2: And the reality is this vacation filmed versus the one 232 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: we took pride with the big group. He and I 233 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: did the same stuff, like I still got everyone on 234 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: the grocery list, coordinated venmos and cash apps, and I 235 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: operated in the same way, and so did he. The 236 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: only difference is that he was working this time and 237 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: we were filmed, and last time those two things weren't true. 238 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: But it was shocking, just the visceral response, and that's 239 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: really hard to process. I think anybody you love, especially 240 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: in partnership, your natural responses to come to their defense. 241 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: But I think because I'm confident in who he is 242 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: and what I will and when I accept, and then 243 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 2: also where we are it balanced out all the negativity. 244 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: And the most important thing to me isn't someone making 245 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 2: a mistake, as y'all see, like I give a lot 246 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: of grace to a lot of folks, but only so long, 247 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: only so much. It's really how someone responds when they've 248 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: done wrong, That's what That's what matters to me. And 249 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: he never had any excuse and that took out more 250 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: than anything to me. 251 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: How did he feel seeing himself? 252 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: It was hard, Oh my god, it was so hard, 253 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: Like he would start to watch, especially towards the end 254 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: of the season, because we would just watch it together 255 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: because we know what we went through in terms of filming, 256 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 2: but how it comes together that's out of our control. 257 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: So it was tough. To put it simple. It was 258 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: really really tough for him because he also didn't recognize 259 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: him speaking to me that way. It was tough, but 260 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: he had to. Whether he got through all the episodes, 261 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: the last episode he has not watched all the way through. 262 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: If he wasn't deployed, do you think he would have 263 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: came back for a season two? 264 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: I think so, because one we're not quitters. That's just 265 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: what we've been through worse things in life as y'all 266 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: know than this. And then two, I would have encouraged 267 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: him to come back just because you got to get 268 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: back up. People are allowed to have your opinions. I mean, heck, 269 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: we've watched so many shows on Bravo before even joining 270 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: the Ravo family and had our opinions, So I think 271 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: reminding him of that, he definitely would have been open to. 272 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: Coming back when it comes to your marriage now, because 273 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: the thing that I thought was so interesting was the 274 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: fact that you two were still getting to know each 275 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: other in a sense right because everything again, it's my 276 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: match's point. Watching the show, I felt like everything moved fast, 277 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: at accelerated pace, and that you guys were essentially milliweds, 278 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: and I know what it's like to be in a 279 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: relationship with somebody and then the moment you live together, 280 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is how you are, and it's 281 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: not like this person has changed. It's more so like 282 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: I have to adapt in this new role of us 283 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: coexisting in the same space. And I felt like watching 284 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: you guys, I felt you guys represented a lot of 285 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: young married couples in the sense of we're kind of 286 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: milliweds and we're also you guys are watching us trying 287 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: to get to know each other on a different level. 288 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: And Michelle Obama spoke about this too, where she said like, oh, yeah, 289 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: there'll be days you like them and there'll be days 290 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: you don't. There'll be moments where you like, you walk 291 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: in a house and you be like, damn. 292 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: You still here? 293 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: Shit, you forget that we live together, okay, because ooh, 294 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: so people have this assumption that marriage is a fairy tale. 295 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: And the one thing I wanted to express to you 296 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: and to him is I applaud the two of you 297 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: for showcasing what another side of black love looks like, 298 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: because you know, when we hear black love, people think 299 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: it's like a lot of people thought it was Barack 300 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: and Michelle until Michelle said, we ain't a couple of goals, baby, 301 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: let me tell you how it really is, and she 302 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: allowed her and Barack to be seen on a very 303 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: relatable stage. And I felt like for you two as 304 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: young couples, I feel like you two represented that as well. 305 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: But do you feel like people forgot that fact that 306 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: you two were like kind of nearly as in figuring 307 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: this shit out too. 308 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: I think you touch on something that's actually so one 309 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: of the biggest reasons why he would have come back 310 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: is because I can't look around and see a lot 311 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: of black young couples on reality television, let alone television period. 312 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: So that's an honor in and of itself. And I 313 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: do think there is this idea that they just wake 314 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: up with their planners out, are always on the same page, 315 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: getting their coffee looking at each other. No, absolutely not. 316 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: So I always appreciate our former first lady for being 317 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: real about that, because we do put them on a pedestal. 318 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: But even those two were a couple before we knew them. So, yeah, 319 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: you're gonna have your ups and downs, But keep in mind, 320 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: we met in twenty twenty, got engaged very top of 321 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, moved in a couple months after, and 322 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: he went away from his corporate job to start military 323 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: training for six months. Right after that was our wedding, 324 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: So it's not really more so that we got to 325 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: get used to each other living in each other's space. 326 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: We actually are really good teammates in that regard. But 327 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 2: this big thing that happened was him going away in 328 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: this completely different military environment and coming back and having 329 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: this wedding and then joining a show I think because 330 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: no matter how many times people hear that, I don't 331 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: think that if people put themselves in that scenario they 332 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: can even know how they would navigate that. I think 333 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: that's what's easy to forget that that's just not normal. 334 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: Martha's Vineyard is a town that I've heard about for 335 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: years where it was the top designation for you know, 336 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: upper echelon black folks to you know, partake in the 337 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: surroundings in the summer. Yeah, and it's very high esteemed. 338 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: Very talented, tempt Yes, exactly exactly was the toime receptive 339 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: to you guys being there because it's you know, it 340 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 3: has a lot of higher up echelon people who are 341 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: a part of it is their legacy as well. 342 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: Well. To be honest, I still don't know. What I've 343 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: heard from my older mentors, who are very much connected 344 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: with other women that do summer on the vineyard is 345 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: they don't mind that we're getting this opportunity. That's fine, 346 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: but they got their limits and their boundaries. What those 347 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: are I don't know. But one thing I had to 348 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: remind myself is it should be allowed for however we are, 349 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: as young black folks, to just exist in vacation so 350 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: all that pressure that I can't speak for everybody else 351 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: on the show, but I can speak for me, all 352 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 2: that pressure of who am I Jasmine Minister Marie's grand 353 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: baby from Saint Louis to represent this community. I had 354 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: to let that go because I'm allowed to live my life. 355 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: I know the amount of integrity that I come with, 356 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: and as a group, we're allowed to just have a 357 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: good time. Like it's called Summerhouse, it's a vacation. Things happen, 358 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: So yeah, I have nothing but respect for them, But 359 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe they can join two. 360 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: Are they invited? Because we don't want them to be 361 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: kicked out the way y'all did Phil and Mariah. 362 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: This is not Survivor. This is not Summer House Survivor. 363 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 2: I promise it's not. But yes, they're invited. Everybody's invites 364 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: you to cook out. It's a vineyard when you go, 365 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: you know, it's a very welcoming energy. So we have that. 366 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you what my eyeball saw, honey. 367 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: Season two is everything. We're loving season two and obviously 368 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: in the most recent episode, you know, we saw Phil 369 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: talk to Preston and there's conversation Maria and Phil coming back. 370 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: I was not happy when Mariah and Phil Werson home, right, 371 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you why. I think me and 372 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: you and our white shirts with Africans are going to 373 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: think the same thing too, child. So I felt like, okay, 374 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: what's wrong with them being there? Like, let's not divide 375 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: the sort of social circles of black people in that space. 376 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: And although one may not be, not my words, a 377 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: lot of people the most polished, right, doesn't mean they 378 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: can't coexist in our science. Because I'm from Detroit and 379 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: like I said, I grew up not with a silver spoon, honey, 380 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: it was definitely a plastic fork and again humble beginnings 381 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: with a bougie mine. And the reason why I think 382 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: a lot of people people were so triggered by Phil 383 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: and Mariah being sent home because it felt like, what's 384 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: wrong with them? Like we're not agreeing with Phil taking 385 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: a dump and not flushing no toilet, but worst things 386 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: have happened, like we got Bria with her dog honey 387 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: do dooing on the carpet, the grass, the pool. But 388 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: I think all of us felt like not all of us, 389 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: A lot of us felt that, which. 390 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: Is which is these are not like the other, Like, 391 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 2: if we're gonna speak on it, let's speak on it. 392 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: Are they uncouth? Is there an aesthetic? Like? What's wrong 393 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: with what's what's different? What's the is? Are there undertones 394 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: to this? You know what I mean? And the reality 395 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: is no, I was there, so there wasn't. But I 396 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: can completely understand how you get a side eye from that, 397 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 2: because one, we didn't think anybody was gonna be voted home. 398 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: That was gonna happen, period. And two why them that's valid? 399 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: Was upsetting to you like it was to me and 400 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: my homegirls. 401 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: You upsetting me and my homegirls. I'll be honest, Phil, 402 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 2: I didn't really know like that. So sorry to that man. 403 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: I didn't know him. I never knew him like that. Mariah, 404 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: that's my girl. That is my girl. So I'm the 405 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: type of person and this can be a good thing 406 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 2: and a bad things. I can be very diplomatic, I 407 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 2: can be very maybe it's the capricorn to me, I'm 408 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: very black and white. And so if we're setting a 409 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: precedent of okay, this is a boundary. Now. Granted I 410 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: never saw what happened until I watched with y'all so yes, 411 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: I was frazzled with this position that I'm put in, 412 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: which happened a lot. I feel like season one is 413 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: that Stilas and Ira put to his parental roles before 414 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 2: we've even became parents. But I did not feel like 415 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: it was fair for Mariah or not speak her piece, 416 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: at least because I had every intention as a peacemaker 417 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: that I am to sit those two girls down, even 418 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: though I was shading Bria all season one. I was 419 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: never going to not have them sit down and talk 420 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: about like we're grown, what is this, this is a 421 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: big thing or not. But I didn't like coming across 422 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 2: as like a not a good friend. And although Mariah's 423 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: my best friend, I'm friends with everybody in the house. 424 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: So imagine being in that situation where you truly are 425 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: you have a relationship with everybody and then looking at 426 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: you like get your homegirl. That's a lot of pressure. 427 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: That is a lot of pressure. 428 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: How did Mariah feel after she got sent home? 429 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: She definitely felt she definitely felt betrayed, betrayed by me, 430 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: but then also by some of the girls that were 431 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 2: all on my Bachelor trip Bachelorett trip months before. So yeah, 432 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 2: she definitely felt like, did I really know y'all? Like 433 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 2: why me? And I get it because I can live 434 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 2: with the news to her, but no. 435 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: So this season is so good, Jasmine, and it's nice 436 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: to see the gang back together, and obviously we have 437 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: some new additions as well. When it comes to a 438 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: second season of any show, when people see themselves on 439 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: season one, one or two things happen, or sometimes both. 440 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: You get the well, I'm the star, and I mean 441 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm the fan favorite, so like whatever, So that happens, 442 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: the ego starts to form, right because being a reality start, 443 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: you're famous overnight, literally overnight. 444 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 445 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: Right. The other thing that happens is people start to 446 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: censor themselves because they saw how the audience responded to 447 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: them season one, and they come second season they're not 448 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: as vocal or they act different because they're like, no, 449 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that because I don't want people to 450 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: say this, or no I'm not doing I'm not gonna 451 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: say all of that because if I say that, they're 452 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: gonna take it this way, right, blah blah blah. Did 453 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: you see some of those things happening coming into season two? 454 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: I wasn't really hanging out with everybody like that, so 455 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 2: I wasn't even in the mix prior to walking back 456 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: into the house, to be honest, so I can only 457 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 2: speak for me. I feel like for myself and Alex 458 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: and Nice, what I'm proud of us for individually is 459 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 2: opening up and being more vocal about just who we 460 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: are and how we feel about things. That was the 461 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: musk for me, because season one was it was cool, 462 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: then it was humbling. That was the musk for me 463 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: going into for other people, I'm not gonna lie. I 464 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: kind of feel like everybody's more of themselves, if like 465 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: more of what we saw season one, Like I don't 466 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: really see any one eighties for real. 467 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: Did anybody develop an ego? 468 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 2: Yeah? Those swelled up, those swoll up, I feel for 469 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: some people, for some people, and it's not even like 470 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: an ego and a bad thing. It's kind of a 471 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit to do with kind 472 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: of where we are society wise, and we're very individualistic 473 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: and it's very like I gotta do this, me, me, me, 474 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: Like what am I doing? I gotta get to where 475 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: I want to go. Like, I think it's more so 476 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: from that and culmination to probably feedback, but the fact 477 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: that we haven't seen anybody go completely like one like 478 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: who is this person? Speaks to the fact that no 479 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: one really thought of them thought more of themselves in 480 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: that way, if that makes sense. 481 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: Who would you say developed the biggest ego. 482 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: Jamaica crew the Jamaica crew less stay heard? Amen? 483 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: So for those who may not know, can you explain 484 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: who the crew is? For those who may not know? 485 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so some are put together a trip to Jamaica 486 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: prior to filming, and that included I don't recall all 487 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: was invited initially, but that included who actually went summer herself, Preston, 488 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: Jordan and Shinis. They went to Jamaica, had a good 489 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: old time, a good old key and you know, they 490 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 2: enjoyed themselves to the fullest. 491 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: Are they still enjoying themselves to the fullest? 492 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: I mean, there's definitely trouble in paradise the Jamaica crew is. 493 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: They're not exactly where they were when we started the season. 494 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 2: So I can't win them all. 495 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: I guess, well, no, you can't win them all and 496 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: the one so I don't have favorites, but I because 497 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: I love the cast. One of the ones who I 498 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: just think is great television because I've never seen anything 499 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: liking on TV before. I really do like Nick. 500 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, tell me Moore. 501 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: Nick is a He's a quiet hit. And what that 502 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 1: means is it's not every day on reality TV you 503 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: see a black man who is not only very much 504 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: into the esthetic, like into the fascists, into their looks 505 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: and their parents, and who isn't hyper masculine. And you know, like, 506 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: what I love about him is I feel like he's 507 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: so authentically him, you know, and he lives in his 508 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: own skin and as a black man in this space 509 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: and always being around black men my whole life, right, 510 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: I know that sometimes as a black man, and I'll 511 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: speak for black men as a black man, when you're 512 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: around other black men, sometimes you feel the need to 513 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: sort of like be this tough guy or like be 514 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: a hyper masculine. 515 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: No, none of, none of. Honestly, my favorite part of 516 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: our show are the men, and I could honestly say 517 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: that has never happened amongst them ever last season. This season, 518 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: they have this great camaraderie that I just wish you 519 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: could see more of. To be honest, They're my favorite 520 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: part of our show, hands down, because they're all so different, 521 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: each and every one of them has had such a 522 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: tender moment, an authentic moment, an honest moment, a goofy moment, 523 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: and they really do let each other just be and 524 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: support each other, like the brotherhood is real, and I 525 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: personally love to see it and I would love to 526 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: see more of it. But it's interesting you mentioned Nick 527 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: because Nick and I weren't the closest, not in terms 528 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: of any friction. We just, I guess, gravitated towards other 529 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: sides of the group, and we realize that after filming 530 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: this season. But I agree with you and that there 531 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: is a delicate nature to how he wants to be 532 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: soft with how he's presented himself in a good way, 533 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: like what she sees, what you get. You're gonna get 534 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: this purple label, but what she sees what you get. 535 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: And I do think every one of them have are 536 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: really just I can't even find the word for it, 537 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: which is shocking. 538 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: No, I think they're all just refreshingly themselves and as 539 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: nice as seems. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's refreshing. And 540 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: I felt I want to I want to get your 541 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on it, because when the conversation came up amongst 542 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: the group, that Nick was handsy. How did you feel 543 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: about that? 544 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: Honestly, I was like quietly on pins and needles, because 545 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: here's what happened off season. To my knowledge, Jordan's summer 546 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: pressing and Nick were like a square. They were all 547 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: very close. And so when it started to be talked 548 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: about from Jordan in summer, I'm like, well, am I 549 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: missing something? Because y'all did get really close, Like it's comfortable, 550 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: Like you said, it's comfortability. How it comes across on 551 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 2: screen is how it is in real life. And I 552 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: was nervous for him to be honest, because are we 553 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: going somewhere that we can't walk back. Let's be very 554 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: specific and how we speak about this and what questions 555 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: we ask and how we bring it up in this setting. 556 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: So when it got to a point where he just 557 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: went upstairs to talk to Jordan in summer, watching that, 558 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, so you did just 559 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: go to dem and talks to him. Okay, cool, you 560 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: can hash it out. I felt so relieved, And I 561 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: honestly felt like, I don't know if we've seen this 562 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: on TV where someone was like validated so quickly and 563 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: something that really could have gone left. I felt very 564 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: happy for him because I know he has the best intentions. 565 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: I know that, and even if it's hard to read 566 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: sometimes he's always a person that's happy to talk about it. 567 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, I was nervous, but I was very happy 568 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: that everyone was like, no, this makes sense, not to 569 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: invalidate jordan in Summer's feelings or any of the other girls, 570 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: but it really didn't come up to being more like 571 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: when you're drunk, you just get real like life of 572 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: the party. Hey, y'all, da da da da, you know 573 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: what I mean? 574 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, and I thought, listen, I'll give everyone 575 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: credit involved for having the conversation. I give Nick the 576 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: credit for immediately confronting a hit on, like, hey, I 577 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: want to talk about this, like do y'all think it's 578 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: about me? And I appreciate the women for feeling safe 579 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: enough to say, well, y'all, we feel this way, and 580 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: well we don't think it's that, but we're just you 581 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: know whatever. So I thought it was a very mature conversation. 582 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: But I can see how Nick might be like, so, 583 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: if y'all did feel that way, then what do we 584 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: talk about? I can tell he was still processing that 585 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: for sure, and I understood because I'm just like, should 586 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 2: I change how I'm interacting with the if I were him? 587 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: Should I change HOWM interacting with the women? Or is 588 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: it was it just a one off? That's what's unclear. 589 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, congratulations, it's been announced that you guys are 590 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: getting a reunion. When it comes to reunion, we know 591 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: the importance of having first chair, right, I've heard who 592 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: should have the first seat next to Andy at the reunion? 593 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: There's two first seats. 594 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: I know. I'm just gonna preface by saying this, this 595 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: is so hard, and I've also been like, I've seen 596 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: it on social media, the conversation, and I see what 597 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: the folks are saying. But we kind of touch it 598 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 2: on two seasons, and there is no clear one villain 599 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: this season. It's a couple of them. So are we 600 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: going who's the villain? Or we're going with story. I 601 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: don't know if we're going with Sorry, I just feel 602 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: like one of those shares should be mine. I mean 603 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: left or right. I mean I'm not hard to please. Okay, No, 604 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very honest with you. This goes without saying. 605 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: It's not to diminish anybody else, but the rate in 606 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: which my life has been shared and what I have 607 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: openly let everybody into. I think that is of note. 608 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: So who's if you and the first seat, who should 609 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: be opposite of you? 610 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to go with who I think I will 611 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: have fun being opposite in me. I have to say, Preston, 612 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just feel like I just feel 613 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: like we took my answer. 614 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: I was thinking you and Preston as well. 615 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 2: I just feel like, because let me tell you why, Preston, 616 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: We're not exactly the same, right, But I feel like 617 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: he also He's I don't want to sound ageus, but 618 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 2: he and Nick are the oldest, and I do feel 619 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: like Preston has this elderly statesman era to him, but 620 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: he knows how to give a good read. So you're 621 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: thinking about in terms of where my head wants to 622 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: turn to, I just want to look across. 623 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god. So my prediction is it's you and 624 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: Preston as well. That's so funny. 625 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 2: Dang, I'm kind of sad we're in think I wanted 626 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: like a different. 627 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: Oh no, because the thing is this. Listen Carlos King's 628 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: prediction and low key hope for the first chair at 629 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: the Summerhouse, Martha's Vineyard Reunion is Jasmine and Preston should 630 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: have first chair because you two are the force multipliers 631 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: of the show. And although Bria is a great Villainy 632 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: and Bria, that's a compliment. That's a compliment, by the way, 633 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: don't take you you know, it's a huge one. It's 634 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 1: a huge one. Although Bria is a villain, I think 635 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: Preston will give a good o funny shade read moment. 636 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: I think Andy is going to live for all the 637 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: Preston's commentary. And I think you you have a way 638 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: of explanation and decorum and your whimsical but you're also, 639 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: like you said, you have a lot of story. And listen, 640 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: dare I say, I think in terms of the women, 641 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: to me, you're the face of the show. So thank you. 642 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: It has to be you, and that's why you're talking 643 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: to me first while I'm talking to you. Although I 644 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: love all the girls and the. 645 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: Guys, extremely humble love that for you. No, I mean, 646 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: here's the thing. It's what I do love about this season, honestly, 647 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: is that, like I said, there's no clear villain. Everyone 648 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: has a moment and some of the girls are rubbing 649 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: people the wrong way. That's why I said there's not 650 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 2: one villain, there's actually like three because everyone has a 651 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: different point of friction that is unsettling the group, so 652 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: you can't. But that's why I didn't go with one 653 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 2: person for a chair, because it's like there's three, especially 654 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 2: if you look at social media right now and if 655 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: you just watch as the episodes are playing out. Like 656 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 2: I said, it's not black and white, it's very gray. 657 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: Let the rain drops know, honey, what they can expect 658 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: from the rest of the season of Summer House Martha's 659 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: Vineyard that y'all can catch every Sunday at nine o'clock 660 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: a Central on bra Yes. 661 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 2: And Mondays on Peacock. I think this last episode I 662 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: announced it I'm Pregnant, was a nice holid cleanser. But 663 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 2: the rest of the season you're going to really see 664 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: why this group specifically has so many layers, like we're 665 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: all onions and with the significant others coming and you know, 666 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: Mariah and Phil making a little though as you saw 667 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 2: on the previews, it is a recipe for hopefully a 668 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: greenlit season three. That's what I will say. 669 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to reality with the King New 670 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: episodes drop on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Share, comment, follow, and 671 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: subscribe to Reality with the King. 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