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Speaker 1: it's us Caitlin and Jamie. We want to bug you

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Speaker 1: really quick before the Friday the thirteenth episode to tell

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Speaker 1: You have to be a subscriber to get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get it. Welcome to the Bechtel Ca. It's like she's

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Speaker 1: And then for a second the Polar Express. Today's episode

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Speaker 1: never do The Uncanny Valley the movie. Yeah, totally. How

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Speaker 1: This is our podcast about the Polar Express. Yes, really

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Speaker 1: There's gotta be If that essay doesn't exist, I will

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Speaker 1: get into a rowboat and go out into the lake

418
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: at night for no reason. She was like she was

419
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: committed to that robot to she was in the rowboat

420
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: before Mrs where he's found her, and then she's like,

421
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: I gotta get back to my boat, Like so weird.

422
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: Think the last thing I would want to do is

423
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: to for some reason, like I like, either way is scary,

424
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: but I if I were Alice would have gone on

425
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: foot because we at least know that they were weird.

426
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: Police officers like that. I loved that police officer who

427
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: came was like, are you guys on drugs? What's happening?

428
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: Is this on any weird? We're old, We're not cool.

429
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: It is sort of trow away, like, thank you, officer.

430
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: Now let's let these people who are appropriating native culture

431
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: get back to each other. Thank you. That was the

432
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: only reason why I was like, yeah, Ned should die

433
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: when he was like, oh I'm going to drown, but no,

434
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: kiss me. Yeah, we we'll talk all them. That is

435
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: also the one who his first appearance is almost shooting

436
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: Marcy with an arrow, right, oh my god. And then

437
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, fun flirt. He's the killed her with

438
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: an arrow. It was like flirt. She's like, stop it.

439
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: You could have hurt like that. That was a real arrows,

440
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: not a joke, I mean. And it paid off later

441
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: with her with where she died, But like that was

442
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: the first and then it was like, oh, we love

443
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: this guy. He just shot and he just shot this

444
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: character like with her class clown. He's the comedian of

445
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: the bunch. He's a go fall, he is racist. He's

446
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: trying to kill the ladies at the camp. It looks

447
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: like it's in the age. I was really struggling with it.

448
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: It's the Banks, it's the banks. Everyone in this movie

449
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: was like actor wise, because I looked it up, it

450
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: was in there like early to mid twenties, which makes sense,

451
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: and they're playing they're supposed to be playing Mabe a

452
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: little bit younger. Uh, but I could also I think

453
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: that people back then just aged more rapidly, yes, than

454
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: we do, because we're filling our bodies with all kinds

455
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: of weird preservatives and people just aren't aging. We're hotter.

456
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Seventeen is the year of the hotties. Oh god, that's

457
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: the eighties when people just be like I'm just gonna

458
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: put like Chris Cooe on my skin and just hang

459
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: out in the sunlight. What could go wrong? Like just

460
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: people that true? Just baking, Yeah, nobody knew about baking

461
00:27:52,760 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: ken he's baking up there, So that's this story Friday.

462
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: Then oh yeah, so she shops her head off and

463
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: then she goes out into a robot in the lake

464
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: because the movie needs her to be on the lake

465
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: so that Jason can jump out and like pull her under,

466
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: but not because she survives. So that's pretty much how

467
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: it ends. And then oh and she wakes up. She

468
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: wakes up in a hospital and they're like, we didn't

469
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: find a boy, but really, there were two cops standing

470
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: right there watching that happen. You didn't see the boy

471
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: drag her under the water. Nothing in this movie makes sense,

472
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: Like we're old, where don't we don't understand camp. We

473
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: haven't had fun in a long time. I gotta go

474
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: make begrudging love to my wife very much. The police

475
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: officers vibe. Can we talk about the door guy a

476
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: little bit just for fun, not who's that crazy Ralph? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

477
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: the funny old man on the bike because I feel

478
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: that in and this is as a person with limited

479
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: horror movie experience, there's usually a character who comes to

480
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: warn someone about something. This is one of my one

481
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: of the more fun cookie warning characters because sometimes with

482
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: warning characters and I cannot pull an example at the

483
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: top of my head, so hopefully what I was saying resonate.

484
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: But like I feel like there's sometimes like some weird

485
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: racist troops used for a warning character, and like there's

486
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: just like just a random character. I don't go in there,

487
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: and then they just disappear, which is what funny old

488
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: Fedora guy it does. But he's got these wild eyebrows.

489
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: To his credit, he does not hit on Annie, who

490
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: is about to be lifted via her butt into a truck.

491
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: He just scares her. So, um, I don't know if

492
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: I would rather be just viscerally scared by or aggressively

493
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: hit on by a man. I'd prefer neither, but I

494
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: think I'd rather be scared just be told not to

495
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: go to a camp because he was right. And then

496
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 1: he does. He show up later in the movie. He's

497
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, the camp, you dumb idiots. I told

498
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: you not to come here, I think, gets back on

499
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: his bike and it's like, honestly, thank you for making

500
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: the trip. He's probably had so many d uise that

501
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: he has to have a bike. Yes, he was right

502
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: though he but do we find out We don't find

503
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: out why he knows that, other than he's just been

504
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: alive for a while. But because so the movie opens

505
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: with two camp counselors from like was at the late

506
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: sixties some yeah, and they get murdered. They like go

507
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: up to an attic and because sex right, which is

508
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: a huge trope in horror movies, they started or they're

509
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: like fooling around and then someone comes up and then

510
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: we see them get murdered, but we don't know by whom.

511
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: There are different allusions throughout the movie that there are

512
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: those two murders, and then the year before that, a

513
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: boy drowned and you don't find out that it was

514
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: Jason who quote unquote drowned even though he didn't because

515
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: he's still alive and he goes on to kill a

516
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: bunch of people and all the other sequels, but he's

517
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: drowned or he like was in the one, I don't

518
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: know who knows. Again, this movie doesn't make it's not

519
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: super important. Continuity is not super important to these movies.

520
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: But because he drowned and then those two other people

521
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 1: were killed like a decade or so before that, Everyone's like, oh,

522
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: can't blood blah blah. So he was warning them crazy

523
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 1: Ralph guys all, I was sort of hoping that if

524
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: I did have one criticism of the Door Guy, I

525
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: was hoping that it turned out that like he was

526
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: somehow more integrally involved in the original what happened, because

527
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: it would have been very easy to be like and

528
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: he was a little camp boy like like that you

529
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: see a little boy with like wow, that really haunted him. Well,

530
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: he's only thirty five years. One of the big problems

531
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: I think. I think so I generally liked the movie

532
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: for what it was. You know, it's just like kind

533
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: of a mindless slasher. I'm also not very well versed

534
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: on like horrors, probably the genre that I like least

535
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: fluent in, if you will, But I you know, it's

536
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: a fun slasher movie. It's full of tropes, and those

537
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: tropes keep recurring in all the sequels. But one of

538
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: the things I want to talk about is, like the

539
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: horror genre has its own set of like gender tropes.

540
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: There's like often the final Girl. There's the thing where

541
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: if you're a woman and you have sex, you've got

542
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: to die. But also like man, like, if you're a man,

543
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: you have to Like anyone who has sex, they have

544
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: to die. I feel like there's a trope where like

545
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: if you're a woman and you scream and you don't

546
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: know how to put up a fight and you just

547
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: like let yourself be killed, which is something I noticed

548
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: about this movie. Sometimes it's like they turn around and

549
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: then they're dead all of a sudden, But like when

550
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: they have a chance to put up a fight, it

551
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: really happens, except with Alice and then she's like, yeah,

552
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: I'll throw a spool of twine at you. Can we

553
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: address that. Mrs Vorries has a knife and she goes

554
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: after Alice and they have a slat fight. It's like

555
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: everybody else gets viciously murdered and she's like, oh Alice,

556
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: slap slap, slapty slab, like really, what's what's happening here?

557
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: And then she goes I noticed that to the point

558
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: where I was like questioning. I was like, is it

559
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: a knife? It looks like a knife, but she's not

560
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: treating it like a knife at all. She was interested.

561
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, there's a lot in this movie

562
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. There's but but I think that that, well,

563
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: what is you're thinking about that? Does it seem like

564
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: something that's just like, oh, they made it into a

565
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: girl fight unnecessarily or I just think it was just

566
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: some way to be like, well, of course she's going

567
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 1: to try to fight or something, but we can't, you know,

568
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: have her died in the first five minutes of the fight.

569
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: So really likes over boy likes chick boats and and

570
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: MS four he has has a great sweader. Yeah, okay,

571
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: sweater sweater, sweater rules, good sweater, good haircut, Yes, strong

572
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: female protution, feminist icon. This is well. I did like,

573
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: I did like. I did like that the movie like

574
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: subverted the although so again I don't know much about

575
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: horror movies. I haven't seen a ton. Like the slash

576
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: sub genre was basically invented by was it Halloween or

577
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: around that time in like seventy nine? Was that kind

578
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: of the first slasher movie? Do you know? This was

579
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: around seventy Nights, So I mean like this was sort

580
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: of the beginning of the genre. So at this point

581
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: I was assuming and then I did a little bit

582
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: of research, But it seems like this is around the

583
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: time where these tropes are sort of becoming solidified, right, yeah, okay,

584
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: so the troupe and a lot of them, especially over

585
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: the years, has developed that it's like a man. There's

586
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: a man. So not that there was a whole lot

587
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: to subvert prior to this, because this is like, right,

588
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: like you said, it sort of at the beginning of

589
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: these troops being developed. But I thought it was cool

590
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: that it's a lady killing everybody. Sure, well this okay,

591
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: and this is I think sometimes just a repercussion or

592
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: a side effect of the cast is that I think

593
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: that I'm giving them a little more credit for they

594
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: probably weren't thinking about it this hard. But I didn't know,

595
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: like I didn't know the twist that it's Mrs Vorhees.

596
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: So I was watching it thinking it's hockey mask guy

597
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: or sweater guy. I'm not sure who watching them, with

598
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: the sweater guy being Freddie Freddie where e sweater girl.

599
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: But but like with these very predatory shots of you know,

600
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: basically a Vorhees tracking prey, originally I was like, oh,

601
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: this is this will be an interesting thing to be like, oh,

602
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: it's like a male gaze. He kind of like literally

603
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: a male gaze shot, but then it turns out it

604
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: is not a male gaze, but also is it. It

605
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: was confusing because well because being possessed, possessed by or

606
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: acting out the instructions of a man and of her

607
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: son too, which is us like, okay, like it's good

608
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: that we have like a prominent female character, but of

609
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: course her instinct and her motivation it goes back to

610
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: something very maternal, which is like kind of a easy choice,

611
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: not necessarily a bad one, but neither one like reverse

612
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: I go, I wrote that down. Yeah, yeah, whoa great minds,

613
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: great minds gang? They think the same? Is that that phrase?

614
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: Is that the famous saying? That's what they say. I

615
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: didn't want to say. You have brought up sweater guy,

616
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you guys have been going

617
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: around those Halloween shops. I cannot stand to see when

618
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: they do sexy Freddy Krueger costumes and like those you

619
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: just returned my costume that I bought this year. Calen

620
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: is like was about to take her top off and

621
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: be like, guys, Freddy Krueger is a pedophile. It's like,

622
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: why are you like, oh, sexy protophile that has the

623
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: origin story view rape. But that was a miniax like

624
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: we're going to make that sexy. I mean, that's true

625
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: about a lot of costumes. So many questions were very problematic.

626
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a minion sexy million from the spoil

627
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: of a thousands I went in high school. My proudest

628
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: Halloween costume moment was sexy Resputin? What how did people?

629
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: Did you have the beard? You have had the beer

630
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: had had the beard? Is it just resciput and with reciputes?

631
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: And basically wearing that was like, basically just like wearing

632
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: I borrowed my cousin's revealing clothing. She was a very

633
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: popular girl, and I by borrowed her clothes and then

634
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: put on a beard and said I am sexy Resputin

635
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: because I took Russian history in high school. Because I

636
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: sucking and big hit in my Russian history class. Everyone

637
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: else was like, what go home? One of those scenes

638
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about, which we already alluded to

639
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: the scene where Ned fakes drowning so that he can

640
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: be given mouth to mouth by a hot lady, which

641
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: this ain't the sand Lot. Let me see the same

642
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: thing happened in that movie do I need to repeat

643
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: that's an example of sexual assault. You don't get to

644
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: just surprised kiss a woman or like lure them to

645
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: giving you mouth to mouth under false pretenses. That is assault.

646
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: Why do we keep seeing this and then like she reacts,

647
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: she's like ned no, the same way, but the reaction

648
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: of like, hey, don't shoot me with an arrow. Stop

649
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: little tricks? Do you don't do that? I don't have value.

650
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: If you hit me, I deal with it. Liked there, Yeah,

651
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: that was not good. I mean every I feel like

652
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: every male character has their moment. The guy that is

653
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: older and we don't know is he had We don't know.

654
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: We were saying, not hot mustachioed Steve, mustachioed Steve. He's

655
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, he's like looking to settle down

656
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: with a child. Look a little camp right, He's like,

657
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: well maybe I should. Well he creeps in one of

658
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: my campers on Alice, He like he looks at her

659
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: drawings and she you know, but I couldn't tell. And

660
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: I want you to draw me like one of your

661
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: friend cars. Also, who keeps their sketch pad next to

662
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: their like home improvement project where they're trying to put

663
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: the gutters up, like that's gonna be nasty and dirty,

664
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: and if you have a sketch pad, you care about it,

665
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: and it's just gonna be like who's gonna put her

666
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: next to this home? Or this is another confusing moment

667
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: for me of like what is their relationship? Because she

668
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: said something He's like, do I really look like that?

669
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: And she's like, that's what you look like last night?

670
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: And I was just like, what are you together? Or

671
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: was he just like buy a camp fire saying prayers,

672
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: sleep and you're way through slump okay, But he's like,

673
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: you're very talented and you're very pretty, and then he

674
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: like touches her face in a creepy way and it's like,

675
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: you're thirty, she's question mark. But let's say something though.

676
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: But so it was confusing, but also it's like she's

677
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: not supposed to be twic six, She's supposed to be

678
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be teens, right,

679
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: But either way, it was gross. I do like that

680
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: you see different women fixing sinks and putting up a

681
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: gutter and like reallying over a stump like often you

682
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: don't see women doing. And it's weird because There are

683
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: a few examples of like reductive comments, like there Steve,

684
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: the the old hot guy you like in the first

685
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: in his first scene he's whacking a loger whatever, stump,

686
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: topping wood, He's whacking a tree with a piece of metal,

687
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, this is impressive. But then they're

688
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: they're like delegating stuff and Brenda says she'll do something.

689
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I want Brenda to paint, and it's

690
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: like okay. But but it still seemed like, in spite

691
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: of random reductive comments, that the work was pretty evenly split.

692
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: It seemed like between men and women and just I

693
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: don't know, I was like pleasantly surprised with I was

694
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: expecting it to be like egregious, like the female characters

695
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: in this movie of like way over sexualized, and but

696
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: really everyone in this movie is sexualized, and with the

697
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: women it is a little bit more, especially as the

698
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: sequels go on, Like there's I think in the second

699
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: or third one, like a woman completely disrobes you like

700
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: see her puberty region, her like her pubic hair. Never

701
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: say puberty region again, like there, I feel very sick

702
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: region every everything. Do you see pub do you see her?

703
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: Just that's that I'm gonna try to talk to my

704
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: husband about my puberty. I've got to shave my puberty sometimes,

705
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: and I the patriarchy. I must shave off between ages

706
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: twelve and fifteen. You know what, I regret nothing that

707
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: I've said here tonight. So if I have hot flashes

708
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: and I go through menopause, do I lose my puberty region?

709
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: As a real pube's head got I gotta stand up

710
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: for the pubs. All right, let's get back on. If

711
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: you identify as a pub sid, please do not email us.

712
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: Thank you, Okay, you began this. You started this. Choo

713
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: choo choot you as much as possible. Mama, very untractive

714
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: of it. Um. A point that I think is worth

715
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: making is that horror movies, especially ones with a bunch

716
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: of sequels that are like franchises like this one, they

717
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: are remembered pretty much only for their antagonists and not

718
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: their protagonists, because, at least, like I said, I watched

719
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: the first four, there's always you don't know who the

720
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: protagonist is going to be until like the halfway through

721
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: the movie, but it ends up being a woman each time.

722
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: Again the final girl trope, but no one like is

723
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: like oh, Friday thirteenth, you know, starring Alice our hero,

724
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: Like it's always remembered for the villain, which makes sense

725
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: because they're the through line of the franchise. But that

726
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: character is almost always a man, which I don't know

727
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: if I'm upset that, like there's the trope that like

728
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: the bad killer is a man because but I don't know,

729
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: true to life, but um, I don't know, there can

730
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: be women killers too. I don't know what point I'm

731
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: trying to make enjoy this movie Monster. Yeah, yeah, it was.

732
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And I know that part of this

733
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: is just like a structural like for run time, Alice

734
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: has to be able to defend herself to an extent,

735
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: but she does take a lot of active role in

736
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: defending herself and trying to and and you know, it

737
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: would have been unrealistic if we saw her really like

738
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: defending herself admirably because she's a teenager, Like you know,

739
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: the stuff she was doing. I was like, you know,

740
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: if you're freaking out, I could see doing a weird

741
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: rope thing, sure, why not go? At first, I was like,

742
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: is she going to kill herself? That would be wild,

743
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: But she's just like tethering a rope to the door

744
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: knob and then like putting a bunch of chairs against

745
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: the door. Maybe it's a cand of thing, we don't know,

746
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: not checking the back to see if there's an additional door,

747
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: not trying to see if like, oh, maybe I have

748
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm trapping myself in the same you know.

749
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: But she does her best. She lasts a while to

750
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: the end, and she kills the end. Yeah, Mrs Warries

751
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: by chopping her head off with a machete. Does it

752
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: pass the Bechdel test? If a woman chops another woman?

753
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: And oh, here we go. What if she's possessed by

754
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: her son? Now does she climb the loftest test prevails

755
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: the and this woman with the shortest hair is in charge.

756
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: That's right, Mrs Morris has pretty short hair the loftist test,

757
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: and she isn't charge and so and of the other

758
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: Alice has the same length of hair. I think she's

759
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: she's got pretty short hair too. So both in charge

760
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: your test, but the other two as true acts in

761
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: the face and arrow through face way down something. Yeah,

762
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: we don't know. Well, I kind of wish it's bad

763
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: that I was like, okn't I wish we saw what happened.

764
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: I didn't close you on my arrows. They didn't have

765
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: the budget for that special for a big arrow faith

766
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: I would have I would have been on board for

767
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: arrow face, and I would have complained about it, and

768
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: I've been like, why we have to see a woman

769
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: get shooting? But I would have been like, you know,

770
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: but I'm glad I saw it. Well. They die because

771
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: they either have sex or are sexualized in some way,

772
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: and there's that weird like slut shamy tropar. It's like,

773
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: if you have sex in a horror movie, you gotta

774
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: die so as you have to be punished for your

775
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: six But one of them had sex and it was

776
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: the term monopoly scene. Brenda is like I'm gonna take

777
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: off all my clothes, so like she becomes sexual and

778
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: someone because she's like Brenda's arrow girl, right Yeah. But

779
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: then it's weird because in the next scene she's made

780
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: to be very virginal like where that was like an

781
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: interesting where she you know, like she it's her. I

782
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: did like, let's do strip monopoly, which still sounds boring.

783
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't even understand how that would work. It was

784
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: like I was like, choose any other game. But yeah,

785
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: but then she goes back to her cabin and she's

786
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: like in a white gown and she's reading a book

787
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: and she thinks she's helping a child. Like this is

788
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: a weird flip from So there's a little bit of duality.

789
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the point behind it was,

790
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: but like she did go from like hor trope to

791
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: virgin trope kind of abruptly, and I mean she dies regardless.

792
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: But they were both present in that one character, which

793
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: I thought was interesting. I don't think about women can

794
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: have multiple dimensions. I think that they really helped to

795
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: sexually active women contrary to popular belief, ken read what

796
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: and are capable of empathy? I know, crazy, that's not

797
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: choo choo. Does this movie pass the backdel test? It does?

798
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: Why I really have two ladies have a conversation. But

799
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: the two ladies that have conversations, we're talking about Jason. Well,

800
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: there's a bunch that if you blink you'll miss him.

801
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: It only has to be a two line exchange. And

802
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: Marci had a had a quick They talk about vitamin C.

803
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: What does vitamin C do? It neutralizes the nitrates or something.

804
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, I thought I saw something over there.

805
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: That scene. There's a scene where Brenda and Marcy talk

806
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: about making salads. Oh and also hand bat was that

807
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: was a funny one. I was like, I want to

808
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: make an Apple domestic combo. But it does pass. Strip

809
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: Monopoly scene Alice and Brenda are why talking at first

810
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: about like, let's play monopoly, but you'll like my version

811
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: because it's strip Monopoly. But still is also there so

812
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: like and they mostly talked to him, so I don't

813
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: know if that scene passes really And then I would

814
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: argue that the like pretty extended sequence between Mrs Vorhees

815
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: and it always a few different times on like a

816
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: line to line basis, especially right at first because they

817
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: end up talking a lot about Jason or like wait

818
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: till Mr Christie comes back, but they've already killed you. Yeah, yeah,

819
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: so it passes a few different times. The surprising I

820
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: was very surprised because I was thinking this was going

821
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: to be the sort of one where it's like, well,

822
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: if it does pass, it will pass by this kind

823
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: of it's but this pass is pretty handily. So well,

824
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: here's my theory about it. Oh yes, But the theory

825
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: is that movies like this slasher movies where a bunch

826
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: of people have to die, have to be populated by

827
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of characters, and probably at least half those

828
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: characters have to be women because they have to have

829
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: sex with the men so that they can be justified

830
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: in dying via this weird trope that we've that's been

831
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: established very white, very head or yes, but so there

832
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: have to be a bunch of women so that they

833
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: can have sex with all the men. Those women are

834
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: going to hang out and talk to each other because

835
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: it's usually like they're a group of friends, they're all vacationing,

836
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: or they're at a camp or whatever setting. It is

837
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: so because of that, because there just have to be

838
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Speaker 1: so many characters who die, and a bunch of them

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Speaker 1: have to be women so that we can see a

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Speaker 1: bunch of them naked, because that's again another trope. And

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Speaker 1: what I thought was large underwear. But we did get

842
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Speaker 1: to see bacon, But we did get we saw more

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Speaker 1: male butt than we saw female But and there was

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Speaker 1: some close up of bacon packages, if that makes any sense,

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Speaker 1: because he was wearing like a speed oh you mean

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Speaker 1: his puberty region, his his pe reach per reach. I'm

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Speaker 1: here for peer read for reach. It's a redis filled reach. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So because of that, I would bet that a lot

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Speaker 1: of horror movie like slasher movies like this pass the

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Speaker 1: Bechdel test because there's just a bunch of ladies talking

851
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Speaker 1: to each other before they die. But I would I

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Speaker 1: would wager that a lot of slasher flicks passed the

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Speaker 1: Becktel test. That's just my prediction as someone who hasn't

854
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Speaker 1: seen a bunch of them. I bet some crummy ones

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Speaker 1: probably don't. I would be interested in if any of

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00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: the Final Destination movies like stuff. But all that to say,

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Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised at how handily this movie passed

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Speaker 1: the Backtel test. Yeah, anything else anyone wants to say

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Speaker 1: before we read? I did want to say something very

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Speaker 1: weird that Jason was originally supposed to be named Josh. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I love Oh, Josh Stoop Josh, You just Josh and

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Speaker 1: you if you need you need a too syllable killer name,

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Speaker 1: Jason is Mike. It's too jig So yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that's the killer. A too syllable name I like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Josh sounds too much like a cousin. Josh stop, Josh stop. Stamping.

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Speaker 1: Jolish just sucks man, stop by the wrecking Josh. You guys,

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Speaker 1: yeah you don't want Josh to come back. Come on,

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Speaker 1: Josh is a bad boyfriend you had in middle school. Like,

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Speaker 1: stop it, Josh, you cut it out. Pay for my milk.

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Speaker 1: With that, let's rate the movie on our nipple Scared

871
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Speaker 1: will at least rate the movie based on its portrayal

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Speaker 1: of women. I'm gonna give this is a tricky one.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of the first like straight up horror

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Speaker 1: movie we've done so I and I'm gonna give it

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Speaker 1: to Nipples. I do like that the movie passes the

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Speaker 1: Pacto test against whole odds. I mean, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: tell who even the protagonist is until like maybe the

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Speaker 1: second act, but then you're like, oh, it's Alice, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: cool that they gave her a skill. She's good at drawing,

880
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: and she's sort of resourceful. She's also kind of the

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00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: voice of reason towards the end when like her and

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00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: Bill are the only ones left alive and she's like,

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00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: let's call someone. She breaks into the office for help

884
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: to call someone. Like she does stuff. She's proactive throughout

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Speaker 1: the movie generally, but just based on all the built

886
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: in tropes of horror slasher movies where if you show

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Speaker 1: any sign of sexuality you're a horrible slot and you

888
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Speaker 1: deserve to die and stuff like that. I think it's

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Speaker 1: not good. I don't like it. Gosh, so to nipples

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Speaker 1: and they belong to the dog. At the very beginning,

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Speaker 1: she's like, hey girls, sorry by boy, because I guess

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Speaker 1: she looked at what are you doing? Annie? Fully, I

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Speaker 1: don't care if this removes me from being an ally

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Speaker 1: to my own Jenny. She had to die, she had

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Speaker 1: to go. She had to because she was too dumb

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Speaker 1: to live. Okay, Jen, would you care to write the

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Speaker 1: movie how many nipples are? Five is the max and

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Speaker 1: zero is the minimum. I would say three nipples, but

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Speaker 1: they're perky nipples. Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm going to say

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Speaker 1: three too for all the same reasons. And these nipples

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Speaker 1: are knives. They're just they're soaking that they're sharp. Wonderful, Jen,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Where can people

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Speaker 1: find you online? I can be found on Jen Saunderson

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to do that. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I know it's it's ob noxious. I hope, but I

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Speaker 1: hope that by the time we figured out, it's no

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Speaker 1: longer relevantly. I'm hoping. I just figured out Instagram. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't have time. I can't do it. I don't

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Speaker 1: need rainbow shooting out of my mouth. It was fun

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