Speaker 1: We're just too unapologetically black women with an opinion. Who
Speaker 1: talks back? What's up, y'all? Thank you for tuning in
Speaker 1: for a new episode that we talked back, A show
Speaker 1: dedicated to you, nigga's and these holes. It's your co host,
Speaker 1: a J Holiday. What's out? Tim? Hey girl, Hey y'all,
Speaker 1: it's me Tim Vam. I love y'all. Thank y'all for tuning.
Speaker 1: Ay J. How's your weekend? It's a me mighty hole.
Speaker 1: I was showing up this weekend. I don't do much, um,
Speaker 1: just dinner, drinks. That's about it, saying I didn't uh.
Speaker 1: I didn't hang out until Sunday. I came outside a
Speaker 1: little bit on a couple of spots. But this weekend
Speaker 1: was real chill, taking it easy because next weekend it's
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. It's let it's Reana Bowl right now. I
Speaker 1: do want the Eagles to win, Okay, I feel like
Speaker 1: they are. They got out your good energy, so yeah, yeah, um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: have any place in particular. I'll find someplace, but then
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure a few people gonna be having some
Speaker 1: Super Bowl parties. I could pull up all right, I
Speaker 1: want to go get all the Super Bowl food. Just
Speaker 1: all I can have is meat and vegetables, though in cheese,
Speaker 1: I can't have anything sweet or bread or I know
Speaker 1: I funked up last night though I'm out of cutosis.
Speaker 1: I know I am today. I'm starting back over now.
Speaker 1: I can't do a super restrictive diet like that. I
Speaker 1: have tried, Jesus Christ. I mean, the most restrictive thing
Speaker 1: I think, and it's just not restrictive anymore, is just
Speaker 1: like stop, you know, eating meat, like big, big, big meats.
Speaker 1: Other than that, I'll just try to cut back because
Speaker 1: if it, you need a chocolate your cookie every now
Speaker 1: and then. Alright, so let me see what we got
Speaker 1: going on there this week and stupid internet news the
Speaker 1: sins of a week. It's Black History Month, and like
Speaker 1: Malcolm X once said, the white man will try to
Speaker 1: satisfy us with symbolic victories rather than economic equity and
Speaker 1: real justice. That's when Malcolm X once said, and here
Speaker 1: we are in and we got schools in New York
Speaker 1: City serving our children chicken and waffles and watermelons. I
Speaker 1: like that ship. I that ship. I'm sorry. I love chicken.
Speaker 1: I love waffles and I love watermelon. I would have
Speaker 1: been so happy at school with that meal. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: serve it every day, have it, serve it as a
Speaker 1: delicacy once a month or something. I don't know why
Speaker 1: you wait till Black History Month to serve that to
Speaker 1: the students. M hmm, all right. It's kind of like,
Speaker 1: damned if you do damned if you don't like how
Speaker 1: do you how do you want to celebrate Black History?
Speaker 1: It was I feel like we want the check I
Speaker 1: just told you with Malcolm mar An elementary school. At
Speaker 1: an elementary school, they thought that they probably thought it
Speaker 1: was a fun way to incorporate something that black people
Speaker 1: enjoy for Black History. You are assuming that all black
Speaker 1: people enjoy. I don't need chicken. I don't eat fried chicken.
Speaker 1: When I get the waffles, I might get fried shrimp
Speaker 1: on the side. White people eat that ship too, What
Speaker 1: are you talking about? They're gonna eat it on Black
Speaker 1: History money on the first day in school with these
Speaker 1: everybody else And watermelon And if I wish people would
Speaker 1: go look into the history as to why black people
Speaker 1: are associated with watermelon, it really wasn't because we just
Speaker 1: enjoyed watermelon. That was one of our main crops, especially
Speaker 1: in the South. It made black people a lot of
Speaker 1: money selling watermelon, and that would include selling watermelon to
Speaker 1: white people. Everybody likes a nice cold watermelon slice on
Speaker 1: a goddamn Sunday when it's hot outside. That is that
Speaker 1: should not be like you was so happy to have
Speaker 1: it at school, though I would have been so happy,
Speaker 1: all right, So y'all. New York school apologizes for Sara
Speaker 1: watermelon chicken and waffles on the first day of Black
Speaker 1: History Month after complaints it reinforced negative stereotypes of food.
Speaker 1: Vendor issued an apology after the lunch they gave students
Speaker 1: at Knack Middle School on the first day of Black
Speaker 1: History Month was deemed in sensitive. I agree lunch, excuse me,
Speaker 1: lunch of chicken and waffles with watermelon for dessert, which
Speaker 1: a student claimed reinforced negative African American stereotypes. A student,
Speaker 1: a middle school student, had to correct adults man, waffles stupid, stupid,
Speaker 1: and then you got down in Miami. Down in Miami,
Speaker 1: they decorated a police car. Okay, now that was just stupid.
Speaker 1: Now that's stupid. But the chicken and waffles ain't stupid.
Speaker 1: This is what chicken and waffles is so Florida State
Speaker 1: Representative Dottie Joseph says that the Miami police car misses
Speaker 1: the mark on celebrating Black History Month by highlighting the
Speaker 1: wrong continent. It was the wrong continent on the goddamn ship.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we need money. We don't need um even
Speaker 1: with Juneteenth. I'm trying to figure out who even though
Speaker 1: Juneteenth is important, Juneteenth was mainly down in Texas, right
Speaker 1: because there were black people down there who didn't know
Speaker 1: they were free. M But there's a lot of black
Speaker 1: people in the South period that chose to remain on
Speaker 1: plantations because they didn't know what to do next after
Speaker 1: being freed. But to make that a national uh holiday,
Speaker 1: I don't know who wanted that. I would prefer reparations.
Speaker 1: So they keep giving us these symbols as opposed to
Speaker 1: giving us real while celebrating Juneteenth. But I agree, we
Speaker 1: want the money in the holiday. Yeah, it's just all
Speaker 1: it's awesome bullshit. You know, every other group of people
Speaker 1: you got the Holocaust, you even have And we talked
Speaker 1: about this last year during the pandemic, how the Asian
Speaker 1: community they got all these moneys in the COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: hate crime bill. We're get nothing. We never get anything.
Speaker 1: We just got the anti lynching bill passed in Mattel
Speaker 1: Anti lynching bill passed. Either it was last year or
Speaker 1: it's not. We need we need some real life, um
Speaker 1: economic advancement at this point, and they ain't trying to
Speaker 1: give it to us. So what's next? I say, force?
Speaker 1: But anyway next? Yeah, because Matil died in very long
Speaker 1: time ago in our lifetime, we're just now seeing an
Speaker 1: anti lynching bill. Why because black people are still being
Speaker 1: lynched in three that's a fact. Mm hmm yep. Happy
Speaker 1: Black History monthy guys. What else happened? Yeah? The Grammys
Speaker 1: this weekend. I missed it. I was out eating and
Speaker 1: in the city. I don't ever watch it anyway. I'll
Speaker 1: catch a little clips and highlights online, but it's not
Speaker 1: something like I gotta see the Grammys. I should be
Speaker 1: looking boring as hell. But I watched some people that
Speaker 1: I knew who went, you know, I watched their stories
Speaker 1: and ship like that. Um, that's about it. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna do our batty of the week for Black History Month? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Might as well. Why are we talking about the Grammys?
Speaker 1: So listen the Batty of the Week. This week goes
Speaker 1: to Viola Davis. Okay, Viola Davis Jones only seventeen other
Speaker 1: people who have won an Emmy, a Grammy, Oscar and
Speaker 1: a Tony completing the ego feature um And she did
Speaker 1: a speech yesterday at the Grammys, Beautiful, Beautiful, Beautiful. She said,
Speaker 1: the only thing I could think to do was to
Speaker 1: go back to the beginning of my story, because I
Speaker 1: think that once you tell your story over and over again,
Speaker 1: you start to hear it and you start to think, Okay,
Speaker 1: how did I get here? It's it's always the journey,
Speaker 1: m right. People always think it's like the end goal.
Speaker 1: Is this the actual journey to get to where you're going?
Speaker 1: That matters, that's most important. Absolutely, Congratulations Viola Davis. You
Speaker 1: are the Batty of the week. We salute your girl,
Speaker 1: Batty who talks back. So I want to talk about
Speaker 1: this balloon. Tell me that was floating over the United
Speaker 1: States for about a week apparently, and it was just
Speaker 1: shot down. When was that Friday? Yes? What took them
Speaker 1: so long to shoot the damn throwing down is what
Speaker 1: I need to know. China said. Look, China got rebuttaled
Speaker 1: after they shot that balloon. And down. China said it
Speaker 1: is cool when they do it. It's a problem with
Speaker 1: I do it. Fo China says it reserves the right
Speaker 1: to deal with similar situations after US jet shoot down
Speaker 1: suspective spy balloon. The thing is, I don't believe that
Speaker 1: the balloon was a spy balloon. China conspire on us
Speaker 1: in so many other ways, which they do a k
Speaker 1: a TikTok and all these other things. Devices are made
Speaker 1: in China. Everything we deal with right now is made
Speaker 1: in China. So if China wanted to spire on us,
Speaker 1: they would not have to put a balloon in the air.
Speaker 1: That was symbolism, is what that was like. Play with us,
Speaker 1: We're pulling up. That's how I felt about the balloon
Speaker 1: in the air. It was just symbolism, symbolism for what
Speaker 1: we can pull up. We will pull up. That's what
Speaker 1: it looked like to me, because we know they can
Speaker 1: if they really want to spy on us, they can
Speaker 1: do that in many other ways, and they do do it.
Speaker 1: They have all of our information. Did you let's go
Speaker 1: send a balloon over there? But that's what they're saying.
Speaker 1: We're having a party. Yeah, obviously this is nothing abnormal. Obviously,
Speaker 1: this is stuff that maybe the United States has done
Speaker 1: in the past, two little threatening, little reminders that will
Speaker 1: pull up. It's symbolism. So with China is saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: y'all shot our shut down. They reserve the right to
Speaker 1: do that next time, y'all pull up on the territory.
Speaker 1: I don't want. Ain't gonna lie. I think it's inevitable.
Speaker 1: At this point, they're gearing up huge. They're gearing up
Speaker 1: to I saw an article. I don't know how true
Speaker 1: it is. I didn't do any deep research, but they're
Speaker 1: gearing up to um invade Taiwan. Yeah, and then I
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with us. Well, we can't mind
Speaker 1: our business because the United Nations and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So just like we in Ukraine right now sending more
Speaker 1: weapons and more tanks and ship like that over there,
Speaker 1: the United States don't mind our minded business. And then
Speaker 1: they'd be fun them both sides of the war. So
Speaker 1: like that's like me, you're fighting with somebody else. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you money and empower them at the same time.
Speaker 1: What's the the Swiss, that's who we need to be.
Speaker 1: Like the Swiss don't mind, they fun, They mind they
Speaker 1: fucking all the fun up things you can think of
Speaker 1: starts in Switzerland for sure. You know, people be like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna put in a Swiss bank, that's where all
Speaker 1: the secrets are at. But they don't funk with no.
Speaker 1: But they don't get in nobody's ship, not publicly. But
Speaker 1: their hands being everything is what I'm saying, their hands
Speaker 1: literally being everything in history. Switzerland has something to do
Speaker 1: with every fucking thing. I like that. I like to
Speaker 1: say when people like, what do you think, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like the Swiss, you know, the ship, but you
Speaker 1: starting ship behind the scenes, bitch starting ship. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: it's wild man, It's a wild time. And I just
Speaker 1: think that we may see war in our lifetime we
Speaker 1: make another one. I mean our knows that I'm talking
Speaker 1: about on American school, that American soil, I think. So,
Speaker 1: you know, and what makes me scared about that balloon
Speaker 1: being over? Uh? You know Charlotte in South Carolina. You know,
Speaker 1: Charlotte is the number two banking hub in the United
Speaker 1: States Myrtle Beach. Think about that. How close Charleston is.
Speaker 1: We have a naval base, Fort Bragg, Fort Jason, all
Speaker 1: the bases on Charleston and the banking Hub. Mm hmmm
Speaker 1: mm yeah, they know what they're doing to Jamaica. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I want citizenship in another country. You're gonna
Speaker 1: gonna be having that sh it out. But I really
Speaker 1: want to go to Barbados. I want citizens citizenship in Barbados. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get you wanted them in. All right, y'all,
Speaker 1: we got someone really interesting and very special on our show.
Speaker 1: We are gonna tell Wu Tang claiming there ain't nothing
Speaker 1: to cream get the money dollar dollar, Hell, y'all do
Speaker 1: like that? Not on my OUs. All right, we'll be
Speaker 1: right back, y'all. All right, y'all, So listen. Today's guest
Speaker 1: has starred in some of your favorite films and television
Speaker 1: series like The Brakes, Power, and he's currently starting on
Speaker 1: the Hulu's drama series Wu Tang in American Saga Ray Ray.
Speaker 1: I mean, Marcus Callender, welcome to We Talked Back. What's up? Hey, Marcus?
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us, Thank you, thank you for
Speaker 1: having me. Yes, all right, I just gotta say this,
Speaker 1: all right, there's characters and movies and shows that when
Speaker 1: you see them in real life, you're gonna be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got smoked because of what you did on that show, right,
Speaker 1: And I always felt like if I ever saw you,
Speaker 1: I was gonna have to throw hands because you're killing
Speaker 1: rain Now, man, how are you gonna kill the baby?
Speaker 1: I mean, she she had it coming, she had to go,
Speaker 1: She had to go. Do you have like weirdos like
Speaker 1: me come up to you and be mad at you
Speaker 1: for real life? Sometimes you can't from real life? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, honestly,
Speaker 1: it happens quite often, honestly, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like though, you know, because first because I think people
Speaker 1: had you know, they kind of have this image in
Speaker 1: their head as to like who I am. So sometimes
Speaker 1: when they see me in person, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's I'm just me. I'm just being regular. So
Speaker 1: it kind of throws them off because in their head
Speaker 1: they're like, wait, you're supposed to be this me, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: that's right exactly. But then when they meet me, it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty cool, I'm pretty chill, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's that initial oh ship, that's you,
Speaker 1: that girl? Right. If I had a dollar for every
Speaker 1: time somebody asked me why to kill that girl? Yeah,
Speaker 1: on the internet. The Internet's how crazy? Was the Internet's
Speaker 1: going on? You? You know, stupid ship. I don't remember
Speaker 1: that was that was like years ago, but there was
Speaker 1: definitely like funny memes and a lot of people onto
Speaker 1: my comments like Yo, I'm gonna get you like if
Speaker 1: I ever see you out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So all right, So I took acting classes a few
Speaker 1: years back, and I had to do like this scene
Speaker 1: where I had to like like getting my emotions right
Speaker 1: and get sad so I could do the scene, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't get out of that sadness. Like after it
Speaker 1: was over, I went home and I was sad all
Speaker 1: day and I was like, damn, like I'm holding onto that.
Speaker 1: Do you like, do you walk away from it just
Speaker 1: like the scene is over? You just kill the kid?
Speaker 1: You know? Do you just walk like, oh, let's go
Speaker 1: have Starbucks now? Or how does that? I mean? I
Speaker 1: remember that that night we shot that scene. It was
Speaker 1: it was probably like it was like three or four
Speaker 1: in the morning honestly when we shot that scene in particular,
Speaker 1: and it was super cold outside. Um, but for me,
Speaker 1: like I don't, yeah, I don't really take it home
Speaker 1: like that, Like once once they cut, I could let
Speaker 1: it go. Well yeah, but then you got some you know,
Speaker 1: no offense. But you've got some actors that like, oh
Speaker 1: I need to eat, breathe, and sleep the road, which
Speaker 1: is cool, but you know this, it's called acting for
Speaker 1: a reason, right, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
Speaker 1: now that's not to say like I don't you know,
Speaker 1: do my best to like you know, internalized things. We
Speaker 1: just kind of make um, these characters real for myself,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like one of my a
Speaker 1: strong philosophy of mine is that, honestly, I feel like
Speaker 1: every character lives somewhere inside you. What makes it different
Speaker 1: is that you know, like no one in the world
Speaker 1: is like you. You know what I'm saying. So my
Speaker 1: version of Ray Ray might be different from say, your
Speaker 1: version of Ray, Like you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: for me, I always look at it as okay, so
Speaker 1: what how would I approach this situation or like what
Speaker 1: how can I make this scenario real for myself? Which
Speaker 1: is gonna make it um unique and specific, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because we don't want to like generalize
Speaker 1: things because then you know, there's nothing interesting about that.
Speaker 1: So for me, like, you know, working on that character
Speaker 1: was actually kind of fun to tap into that evil.
Speaker 1: I guess you know what I'm saying. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. It was fun. It's crazy, it's kind
Speaker 1: of fun. It's kind of fun, Like I know, you
Speaker 1: want to touch the rekas right. He see, he was
Speaker 1: the one that was really supposed to get it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like he was really the one.
Speaker 1: But you know, his sister guy in the way, she
Speaker 1: knew too much. All right, So I went on social
Speaker 1: media and you don't post a lot. You don't post
Speaker 1: a lot at all. You're like me, I don't. I
Speaker 1: hate I honestly hate having having I feel like now
Speaker 1: I have to share my life more because of this podcast,
Speaker 1: but it's not something I enjoyed. Are you similar in
Speaker 1: that way or why are you so like not? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think for me, I mean like I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of I'm just using pretty much a private person just
Speaker 1: in general. But um, I actually am on like a
Speaker 1: similar path, like I did tell myself, like, okay, like
Speaker 1: maybe I should uh start posting more being more sociable.
Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't about to be brand new with it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna still be me,
Speaker 1: but I just you know, let you in a little more.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what you mean, you know, because
Speaker 1: because I get it. You know, some people, you know,
Speaker 1: they look at you know, they look at people on
Speaker 1: you know, the platform that I'm on and doing what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. You know, for some people it's inspiration and
Speaker 1: for some people it's you know, for them it's how.
Speaker 1: You know, because I get a lot of questions about
Speaker 1: like yo, bro, like how did you get into the industry,
Speaker 1: or like how do you get on the show and
Speaker 1: things of that nature. So I know that you know,
Speaker 1: probably be good too. Just give a little insight as
Speaker 1: to like what I'd be doing. Nothing crazy though, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, nothing crazy for those for those
Speaker 1: who were my close friends, they know what's going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm notorious for my close friend activities. I'm a little
Speaker 1: notorious for green green circle stories. The green circle stories.
Speaker 1: Y'all know what. Y'all know what's good the time? It
Speaker 1: is because you know, I travel a lot. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, things happen in different like a rapper,
Speaker 1: you'd be out here acting like la No, I'm still
Speaker 1: I'm still low key with it a little bit. Distant loving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like a Marvin Gay song, Distant Lover? Is that
Speaker 1: how you came over that? There you go? Yeah, I'm so.
Speaker 1: I'm a big Marvin Gay fan. Marvin Gay is my
Speaker 1: favorite artist of all time. Um, I love Marvin Gay everything,
Speaker 1: Marvin fun with um. So it was just a play
Speaker 1: on the song distant loving. Okay, you got a girl.
Speaker 1: It's a player on the song distant Lover. Sorry, um,
Speaker 1: just in it. But if you think about it, that's
Speaker 1: literally what social media is. Just in love it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Because we're because we're looking at
Speaker 1: pictures and videos from a distance, we're not necessarily there,
Speaker 1: and we're liking them. You know what I'm saying, loving it? Okay,
Speaker 1: hearten it. I mean a woman somewhere like I love
Speaker 1: you bit in l a you know. Look, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Right. Look, So since
Speaker 1: we're herewhere here, I got a question about one of
Speaker 1: your relationships because I watched one of your interviews on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Uh it was my mind your Business or something like that,
Speaker 1: Mind your Business. It was you and two other guys
Speaker 1: y'all was outside. I heard iren's fire trucks. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the fun Oh those are my Yes, those
Speaker 1: are my guys. Those are my guys. Okay, So you
Speaker 1: and your guys you're talking about you were talking about
Speaker 1: how you had an old lady in New York that
Speaker 1: was supposed to move with you when you picked up
Speaker 1: and moved to l A, but you got the check
Speaker 1: and you dipped out on her. Ask wit, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on a second, hold on, hold on, hold on
Speaker 1: a second. Wait, wait, let me gather. So I mentioned
Speaker 1: what now what I do? All right? So right, this
Speaker 1: is after you shot Raina. Wait wait, wait, just for
Speaker 1: the people, just so the people know that's a podcast
Speaker 1: where they give you could you drink as as the
Speaker 1: interview goes, just so you know, so you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I might have got a little loose with
Speaker 1: the tone. So you gotta remind me if you was
Speaker 1: my ex nigger, I was trying to smack your ass
Speaker 1: after that interview. Let's just be clear. So he was saying,
Speaker 1: to let me tell you what this nigga was saying.
Speaker 1: So this nigga was saying, he basically said, okay, after
Speaker 1: Raina after he shot Raina checks got kind of funny
Speaker 1: a little bit. Nigger got an epiphany talking to his
Speaker 1: manager for a little bit for months, and his old
Speaker 1: lady was holding her apartment down, but he only knew
Speaker 1: her for about three months, right, but she had the
Speaker 1: house holding her apartment down. He goes back to New York,
Speaker 1: they get the check out. All of a sudden, relationship
Speaker 1: went down to dream. He moves to l A without
Speaker 1: his old lady, and he smashed a bit, and he
Speaker 1: smashed the bitch that she'd been asking him about. Damn, Marcus, Damn,
Speaker 1: you're doing it like da hungry greedy asked Marcus. Marcus. See,
Speaker 1: this's what I'm saying. That's why I don't let you'all
Speaker 1: niggas no ship because of ship like this. Okay, uh,
Speaker 1: let me let me explain myself. You you fucked up
Speaker 1: the story a little bit. Some women do. But first
Speaker 1: of it, we don't think you're a bad person. That
Speaker 1: was what happened. This is what happened. Yes, I was.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a relationship. This was years ago, Mike. This
Speaker 1: was a no no no, no, no, no no no,
Speaker 1: right before the pandemic. That wasn't like two thousand and
Speaker 1: Rain ain't been dead. That that was no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that was like in twenty sixteen. Okay, that was in
Speaker 1: Um that was no, no, no, no, I'm bugging, I'm
Speaker 1: bugging like so any who. Uh, yes, I wasn't a relationship, Um,
Speaker 1: but me shooting Rain or the whole power situation, that
Speaker 1: wasn't the reason we broke up. The relationship was on
Speaker 1: the outskirts anyway. Um, we had talked about moving to
Speaker 1: l A together, but I knew in my heart of
Speaker 1: heart that that was a trip that I needed to
Speaker 1: do solo dolo, and I think I was right about that,
Speaker 1: Like it paid off. But yeah, unfortunately our relationship did
Speaker 1: not last. And yes, it just so happened to be
Speaker 1: around the time when when the when the whole rain
Speaker 1: of ship was going on. So you know, everything happens
Speaker 1: for a reason, you know what I mean? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know her and I you don't talk anymore. But
Speaker 1: I'm sure she's great. I'm sure she's great, she's loving,
Speaker 1: I'm sure she's great. Got funnier ship. So I saw
Speaker 1: that you were right in a play called Spades. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how's that go? How's that? Already wrote it? Um, I'm
Speaker 1: actually in the process of trying to get it produced,
Speaker 1: but I want to produce it independently because um, along
Speaker 1: with putting up this play, I'm also really trying to
Speaker 1: like a rate this um idea of what it means
Speaker 1: for us as black people to go to the theater,
Speaker 1: right because I feel like, say, I feel like theater
Speaker 1: kind of has a bad rep when it comes to
Speaker 1: like us going to the theater because you know, you
Speaker 1: go to Broadway shows is predominantly white folks in the audience.
Speaker 1: Even if you do off Broadway, it's predominantly white folks
Speaker 1: in the audience. But I also think a large part
Speaker 1: of that has to do with like this just shows
Speaker 1: that's just ain't for us, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Either it's not for us, or it's a lot of
Speaker 1: like if it is written by a black person. A
Speaker 1: lot of the time, the plays that are written by
Speaker 1: black people that get produced on those on a scale
Speaker 1: like that, it's like trauma related, which in my opinion,
Speaker 1: white folks love to go to the theater and watch
Speaker 1: black folks in trauma, you know what I mean, They
Speaker 1: love to right right exactly crying boo hoo about oh no,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Woe is me? I say,
Speaker 1: funk all of that. You know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: we live, breathe, that's every day. So for for me, yo,
Speaker 1: just tell me a story. What happened today? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Tell me your story. And with with Space.
Speaker 1: So basically, Space is about a group of friends, four
Speaker 1: friends that uh well three of them. They all went
Speaker 1: to college together, real close friends. Um. They get together
Speaker 1: on a Friday night for a game of space. Right,
Speaker 1: we love us some space? Do you play space? Yeah? Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: I need to know. And that's the exactly So that's
Speaker 1: the energy, that's the energy of the play. Right. So
Speaker 1: it's a Friday night, takes place in harm It actually
Speaker 1: takes place in two thousand and thirteen, so it's a
Speaker 1: it's a period piece, I guess, um takes place in
Speaker 1: Hall on Friday night. They're getting together for a game
Speaker 1: of space. What's different about tonight is that Corey just
Speaker 1: lost her virginity to another character named on three days
Speaker 1: prior to this Space game. Now they're all twenty three
Speaker 1: years old, fresh out of college, figuring it out, their actors, artists,
Speaker 1: they're just living in New York and that that New
Speaker 1: York City life, trying to figure it out. Right, So
Speaker 1: Cory is low Sufforginity three days prior to Andre. It's
Speaker 1: the first time she's seeing this nigga since they haven't
Speaker 1: really spoken, and j has been kind of ducking and
Speaker 1: dodging her. He's been on some nigga ship. So now
Speaker 1: they're getting together for the space game. On top of that,
Speaker 1: another character named Gil whose house they're at this nigga
Speaker 1: don't went and invited one of his co workers for
Speaker 1: this game of space. Now you know how it is
Speaker 1: with a new space partner. I don't know you like that.
Speaker 1: I don't trust you, right you betting Irene. So so
Speaker 1: now you've got a new space partner. But not only
Speaker 1: is she a new space partner, show they don't know
Speaker 1: how to play, she says she did, but she don't
Speaker 1: really know how to play. On top of that, she's
Speaker 1: way old than the three of them. She bought in
Speaker 1: her thirties hanging out with these twenty something year olds.
Speaker 1: On top of that, herr Andre got a little something
Speaker 1: and something. So that's what the play is about. Oh
Speaker 1: that sounds good, Oh it's good. So so the idea
Speaker 1: is so the idea is like, not only do I
Speaker 1: want to put this play up because I just think
Speaker 1: it will be I just think people will will really
Speaker 1: enjoy it. It's also it's what I'm trying to curate
Speaker 1: for the night, you know what I mean, Like it'll
Speaker 1: be dope, Like you come in and like, yo, maybe
Speaker 1: you know before the show starts, like there's a little
Speaker 1: there's you know, some tables in the libby. Get a
Speaker 1: little space gate, go and get the camaraderie. Gonna get
Speaker 1: a drink. I love to get a space that's smoking friendly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I watch the PA walk one up. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I want that call and response vibe. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because that's that's I want the
Speaker 1: audience to feel like they're in the living room with
Speaker 1: them at this space game because she's getting crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know sometimes space table can get dangerous though
Speaker 1: it can't exactly. So you already got the You already
Speaker 1: got the energy of what a space bread a Spades
Speaker 1: game brings on top of the layers of Lightwait, Corey
Speaker 1: ain't seen this, nigga, since what I wanted? Why is
Speaker 1: core three just losing her virginity. It just gave it away.
Speaker 1: So oh that comes up and that you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta watch. Yeah, that's probably be pressing her since da
Speaker 1: was eighteen, just to get the fly and then you know,
Speaker 1: you know how it is when you're young man, you
Speaker 1: know sometimes you you know. So yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: will be dope. Um. So it actually took me five
Speaker 1: years to write it. Um. So now that it's written,
Speaker 1: it's just it's um. It's the process of getting produced,
Speaker 1: which is has been a a long process. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm trying. I want to
Speaker 1: do it right. I'm also gonna direct it myself too.
Speaker 1: So so you're a trained that's being So do you
Speaker 1: prefer theater or a screen or you know, moving? Um uh,
Speaker 1: I think both are really good. But you know, the
Speaker 1: theater always wins for me. Man, it's nothing like it,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's it's it's live, and it's it's
Speaker 1: fresh every night. Um. And it's just it keeps you
Speaker 1: on your toes. To me, that's where you learn how
Speaker 1: to act. If you don't know how to do it
Speaker 1: on stage, I can't, I can't. I can't funk with you,
Speaker 1: no offense. You know, say, my favorite actors know how
Speaker 1: to do it on screen and on the stage just
Speaker 1: as good. There's no oh they're better on screen because no,
Speaker 1: this it's not that on screen acting is bad. It's
Speaker 1: actually like you know, if you if you can master
Speaker 1: that as well, it's a really beautiful craft. But you know,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you should be able to do both.
Speaker 1: You should be able to know how to act for
Speaker 1: the camera and then turn around and go do a
Speaker 1: show eight uh and turn around and go do a
Speaker 1: show eight shows a week. You know. Yeah, So how
Speaker 1: old were you when you knew? Yeah, how old were
Speaker 1: you when you knew you wanted to be an actor? Like?
Speaker 1: Was there something you always grew sixty years old? Um?
Speaker 1: I was sixteen. I mean, when I think back about
Speaker 1: just how I was as a kid, I was always
Speaker 1: naturally a performer. Like I was one of those kids
Speaker 1: where when I was at home waiting for my mom
Speaker 1: to come back from work, I was, you know, I
Speaker 1: had to imagine every friends. I would, you know, make
Speaker 1: up little shows. I had this little this little um,
Speaker 1: this little wooden this little wooden thing that I would
Speaker 1: stand up on and brush my teeth and like I
Speaker 1: would use it like that would be my little platform
Speaker 1: and ship. UM. But I didn't really get into it
Speaker 1: till I was sixteen. I had a teacher name is
Speaker 1: m and shout out to miss Ballman Um who basically,
Speaker 1: you know, recognized the gift that I had. And UM,
Speaker 1: it just so happened that they were auditioning Raising in
Speaker 1: the Sun at my at my school, UM, and I
Speaker 1: audistioned forward, I got the lead, and I've been acting
Speaker 1: literally ever since then. I caught the bug, as they say,
Speaker 1: you spoke of your mother and I saw that you
Speaker 1: were named after Marcus Garvey. Yes, yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know what. I think I posted it.
Speaker 1: I think I posted that. I'm out of posted that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So, UM, are your parents very politically inclined?
Speaker 1: Is there any like organizations that you you black panthers?
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't say that. UM. So Marcus Garvey
Speaker 1: is Jamaican, My dad is Jamaican. Um Um. But also
Speaker 1: if you don't know about Marcus Garvey, he's definitely worth
Speaker 1: doing the research on. Very powerful leader. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: UM he started something in Harlem called um UM. They
Speaker 1: called it Garvey is UM and he had people that
Speaker 1: followed his work called Garvey. Yikes. His whole ideology was, Yo,
Speaker 1: they don't want us here anyway, so let's go home,
Speaker 1: back to Africa where we that's our spot. So his
Speaker 1: his whole thing was about bringing black people back home. Um,
Speaker 1: but he is Jamaican. Um, so I think that's probably
Speaker 1: where my You know what also inspired my dad to
Speaker 1: name me that. I actually just came back from Jamaica
Speaker 1: for vacation, and like, you know what I learned there too,
Speaker 1: was that Bob Marley was also like a big admirer
Speaker 1: of Marcus Garvey. Like in his room he has a
Speaker 1: huge portrait of um Um Hill Selassie, which is who
Speaker 1: um he prayed to, and um Marcus Garvey. So when
Speaker 1: I found that out, I was like, okay, where So, yes,
Speaker 1: I am named after Mr Marcus Garvey. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: a real quick commercial and then when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're going to get into Wootang. Okay, all right, let's second,
Speaker 1: y'all we'll be back, so I want to get into Wootang. Right.
Speaker 1: So I know you're from Brooklyn, New York. Were you
Speaker 1: a big Wu Tang fan growing up? Nah? Yeah? Like
Speaker 1: the age the age difference, you know, I mean a
Speaker 1: little younger, Yeah, I mean a little yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean they were out when I was kid, for sure.
Speaker 1: But I was the reason I was an incident is well,
Speaker 1: when I was younger, I didn't really listen to rap
Speaker 1: music like that. Um uh. And on top of that,
Speaker 1: I remember that album cover that it always kind of
Speaker 1: looked a little scary to me, like what's what's this about?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Um So, yeah, never to
Speaker 1: get different. They were different, they were different, they were
Speaker 1: very different. Um So I never really got into them
Speaker 1: as a kid at all. Um. It wasn't until like
Speaker 1: doing the show that I really started to like Hold.
Speaker 1: I mean even prior to doing the show, like I
Speaker 1: was a big Ray Kwon fan, Like only Built for
Speaker 1: Cuban Lynx is the album I really enjoyed. Um. But
Speaker 1: in doing artists right exactly, in doing the show, you know,
Speaker 1: I got an opportunity to learn a lot about them
Speaker 1: and hear a whole bunch of these songs. So I'm
Speaker 1: definitely a fan. I got a big old Wutang tattoo
Speaker 1: on my leg now so big that So you played
Speaker 1: the executive producer on Ultang, But did you have to
Speaker 1: sit down with Power himself, like to learn his mannerisms
Speaker 1: and things and to learn how he moves or like,
Speaker 1: I guess, how did you ultimately become Power? Okay, uh
Speaker 1: so the beautiful thing is that, Um well, first of all,
Speaker 1: it real lifed. Me and Power are actually really close.
Speaker 1: Um we definitely um formed the friendship outside of the show.
Speaker 1: Um but before before I started filming it, I didn't
Speaker 1: know who Power was, you know, because Power is you know,
Speaker 1: he's a He's a background kind of dude. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's not you know, he's not really
Speaker 1: one for flashy. Him and I have actually pretty similar
Speaker 1: in you know, because you mentioned like I don't post
Speaker 1: on social media. Him and I like kind of similar
Speaker 1: like that. You know, we we we chilled, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But if you know, you know, um
Speaker 1: so I didn't know much about him. I looked up
Speaker 1: some interviews that's about like two or three on YouTube.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even that much. But my whole time, like
Speaker 1: going through the audition process to like, you know, my
Speaker 1: screen tests, all of that, I didn't look up. I
Speaker 1: hadn't looked up anything. I was just going off of
Speaker 1: what I was doing so mynd I'm like, Okay, clearly
Speaker 1: what I'm bringing they like it. This is working because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to like get in my head, like
Speaker 1: I didn't want to look him up, and then like
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm in my head and I'm
Speaker 1: like trying to do him. I'm just I was just
Speaker 1: going in based off of my instinct from reading the role. Mhm,
Speaker 1: get the role. I looked up the interviews and I'm like, oh, ship, Okay,
Speaker 1: I kind of see why they cast me, as I
Speaker 1: get it. Him and him and I off Rip have
Speaker 1: similar we have a similar energy, you know what I mean? Um.
Speaker 1: And then I didn't actually meet him in real life
Speaker 1: until we were about seven episodes in season one, until
Speaker 1: I actually met him, Like everybody else had met who
Speaker 1: they were playing, and I was like the only one.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, what am I gonna be? Power? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But in knowing power and how
Speaker 1: he moves, it makes sense that yeah, I was the
Speaker 1: last one of you know what I'm saying, because he
Speaker 1: you know, he got a yeah, you know, he gotta
Speaker 1: scoop it out, you know what I'm saying. As he
Speaker 1: right as as he likes support. As he likes to say,
Speaker 1: he had to send a couple of kites out, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So he met me. We met
Speaker 1: on set. Actually he actually surprised me. I was I
Speaker 1: adn't expecting to be there. We got on the phone. Um,
Speaker 1: we got on the phone because we we had to
Speaker 1: pause production because it was raining crazy, So we got
Speaker 1: on the phone for a little bit and our first
Speaker 1: conversation we spoke for like three hours, just chopping it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just chopping it up, you know what I mean. New York,
Speaker 1: New York, you know, you know what's said. That's another
Speaker 1: thing about Power. Power is a big hand gesture kind
Speaker 1: of person. He'll smack you on the arm a lot
Speaker 1: when he's talking, like yo, yo. Um. So we got
Speaker 1: on the phone. We spoke for like three hours. Next
Speaker 1: thing you know, he was on set. So he came
Speaker 1: to my trailer and we was just chopping it up,
Speaker 1: and it was like yo, like oh ship, like this
Speaker 1: is this is power, Like this this is the dude
Speaker 1: I'm playing. That's crazy, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: in my head I'm just like yo, I hope I'm
Speaker 1: doing a good job. I hope I'm did he ever
Speaker 1: say like, na, nigga, that ain't me. Don't do it
Speaker 1: like that, do it no no, no, no, no no no
Speaker 1: no no never never. I think from and and and
Speaker 1: I'm really thankful of that because from from Jump he
Speaker 1: trusted me. From Jump, he just kind of was like, yo,
Speaker 1: like do your thing. You know what I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna just watch season one goes by. But
Speaker 1: in season one you don't see my character too much
Speaker 1: because you don't see my character that in season two
Speaker 1: when we realized exactly exactly, cause I mean, because that's
Speaker 1: the thing in Growing up Power he knew he knew, um,
Speaker 1: but his man's was like Ray, Ray kwas was his man's.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying exactly, Ray was his man's.
Speaker 1: He knew ris it through you know what. I'm also
Speaker 1: fun fact me and Risen went to the same elementary
Speaker 1: school in Brooklyn. Three shout out to that. That's some ship.
Speaker 1: Um so um yeah. Growing up Ray was more his
Speaker 1: man's than Risen. So that's why you don't really see
Speaker 1: Power season one because it's like powers off doing his
Speaker 1: own thing. Because Power Power was already a boss from that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, which is why he was
Speaker 1: able to contribute what he did. When you saw season two,
Speaker 1: when he dropped that money, he was already he already
Speaker 1: had that, um but it was like that decision to
Speaker 1: like make that cross over. So before we started season two, Um, luckily,
Speaker 1: you know, due to the pandemic, you know, we kind
Speaker 1: of got delayed in filming and all of that, and
Speaker 1: that allowed for me and Power to like talk a lot.
Speaker 1: We was on the phone almost every day, um, but
Speaker 1: just as but not even just on something like yo,
Speaker 1: this is how I talked, this is what I do.
Speaker 1: Study me. We just really got along like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's just we was always
Speaker 1: on the phone talking and I got an opportunity. Um.
Speaker 1: So he does pop up sometimes for who with in
Speaker 1: different cities. So I got to go to a couple
Speaker 1: of them, I did. You know, he didn't want in Miami,
Speaker 1: didn't want in d C, didn't want in l A.
Speaker 1: And I went to all of those. So in that
Speaker 1: time too, I just got to spend a lot of
Speaker 1: time with him, just you know, be around him, see
Speaker 1: certain mannerisms and you know, just kind of take them
Speaker 1: in and study it. Um. So yeah, I got some
Speaker 1: time with him, but it didn't feel like it was
Speaker 1: organic still, Like it didn't feel like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: I'm only hanging out with you because I was right.
Speaker 1: We was kicking and shooting and ship and just in
Speaker 1: the back of my mind, I'm like, okay, world, I
Speaker 1: keep that, you know, I'm yeah, you know, even a
Speaker 1: small I'm big on details. Yeah, just that. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: That how he smoll sweed. Uh, how he even counts money,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because Nigga's like that count
Speaker 1: money in a certain kind of way. They don't want to.
Speaker 1: It's you know what I'm saying. So it's like even
Speaker 1: getting that you know what I'm saying, all of that ship,
Speaker 1: you know. And I remember meeting some of his people's
Speaker 1: after season two and they're like, yo, you got powered
Speaker 1: down pat Yo, Like Yo, I thought I was watching
Speaker 1: power on TV. Yo he put the battery and you
Speaker 1: know you appreciate you know what I mean. So, um,
Speaker 1: but we're not that far off from each other, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it wasn't. It wasn't. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say easy. It just wasn't. It felt it felt
Speaker 1: it felt almost second nature a little bit, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, like we don't dress the same,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that maybe like we walk
Speaker 1: slightly differently, but it's like our my set, it's very similar.
Speaker 1: So like how I approached you know, even some of
Speaker 1: the dialogue is just it was just like, oh word,
Speaker 1: like I I understand this. I feel the same way too,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, So a lot of
Speaker 1: that were a lot of the group members on set
Speaker 1: when you guys were recording, like Rizzin Rizzon was there sometimes,
Speaker 1: but they were very, very very hands off, which I
Speaker 1: thought was a good idea because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you know, everyone was cast for a reason.
Speaker 1: Even if they don't look like the person that they're playing,
Speaker 1: everybody at least had the spirit, the vibe, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like everybody felt like their character, know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you met rizz though, right a
Speaker 1: bunch of times? So that is it the guy who
Speaker 1: plays his character, Aston Sanders, Is that how Rizzin acts
Speaker 1: in real life? Come on? She was like, Yo, I've
Speaker 1: been watching and I'm worried about that nigga, Like that
Speaker 1: that real you gotta ask you, gotta asks you, So
Speaker 1: you don't know how he felt about his character, Like,
Speaker 1: I know you know some inside ship who felt what
Speaker 1: way about who played them? No, I was like, is
Speaker 1: this real? It's happening? No, dick that that guy is
Speaker 1: a good actor though, asking Sanders, So, I'm assuming maybe
Speaker 1: he studied. It must be right and that must be
Speaker 1: how it was if that's what he was doing. Do
Speaker 1: you have any more questions? I have a question overall?
Speaker 1: So I hear a lot of actors say that, you know,
Speaker 1: some of the characters that they play helped them grow
Speaker 1: as a person. Is there any character that you played
Speaker 1: that like, really like changed you just by being this character?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm that's a good question. Um uh, that's a
Speaker 1: good question. Um, has a character changed me as a person?
Speaker 1: You're like, no, you ain't become a murderer, right, we
Speaker 1: know you hopefully. Um that's a good question. I got
Speaker 1: a theory about niggas in Hollywood. Now, what is it spelling?
Speaker 1: Why you think about it's easy for them? Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know why we think that people like celebrities and
Speaker 1: should are exempt from real life ship, like they could
Speaker 1: be serial killers, you know, and nobody would ever serial killer.
Speaker 1: It's some crazy nigga. UM, But I can't believe that
Speaker 1: was the theory. I thought that I just described the
Speaker 1: serial killers too. Should they can depended out of cities. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird that you think about. That's the point, Um,
Speaker 1: I would say, I would say Um. I mean, I
Speaker 1: would say Power, Playing power UM has definitely Um has
Speaker 1: had a huge impact in my life because just even
Speaker 1: playing that role, understanding who power is, that's the thing
Speaker 1: to like power and and and I talked to him
Speaker 1: about this too too, Like Yo, like you gotta tell
Speaker 1: your story because there's a lot of people that need
Speaker 1: to hear this side, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: because not every you don't gotta be a rapple all
Speaker 1: the time, you know what I mean. There's also another
Speaker 1: lane too, where you know, you could be the person
Speaker 1: putting up the bread. You could be the person that's
Speaker 1: that's putting shipped together, starting the label start, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. There's executive positions in the music industry
Speaker 1: and not just performing all the time, but in playing power. UM.
Speaker 1: One thing I love about Power in real life he's
Speaker 1: the same way everywhere he goes. He's not like he
Speaker 1: don't switch up, you know, change how he talks depending
Speaker 1: on who he's talking to. He's the same person everywhere
Speaker 1: he goes. And I just find that very admirable because,
Speaker 1: you know, I think one of the most beautiful things
Speaker 1: we could do as human beings, as human beings, is
Speaker 1: be ourselves. You know what I'm saying, no matter what
Speaker 1: the scenario and so who you're talking to, what the
Speaker 1: situation is, um. And I think that that, you know,
Speaker 1: that was something really big UM that I take from him,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, not that I felt
Speaker 1: like I was not being myself, but if anything, it
Speaker 1: just it inspires me to tap into that even more,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. There was a period and
Speaker 1: you know, this was a this was a side effect
Speaker 1: of you know, going to drama school. There was a
Speaker 1: period where I didn't want people to necessarily know I
Speaker 1: was from New York or I was from Brooklyn. Like
Speaker 1: I would try to put on like a neutral accent
Speaker 1: so that you don't know, you know, because I'm an
Speaker 1: actor and you're not supposed to know where I'm really
Speaker 1: fun funk all of that. I'm from Brooklyn, born and raised.
Speaker 1: I'm a Brooklyn as nigger, Okay, and I'm proud of it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's something I embraced no matter what, you know,
Speaker 1: what role I take on or you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, obviously, if it's a specific character that's
Speaker 1: not from Brooklyn and I gotta tap into that, that's
Speaker 1: a different story. But who I am is Marcus Calendar.
Speaker 1: I'm from New York. I'm from Brooklyn. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you know anything about New Yorker's I should tell
Speaker 1: you a lotus just got to say about what you
Speaker 1: know Brooklyn. I don't know, girl is known for something.
Speaker 1: What is Brooklyn known for? Uh? Fly? I thought that
Speaker 1: they want to be known for that, But everybody know
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is the flyes because we don't try that hard,
Speaker 1: all of them they try hard on speaking of flyingness,
Speaker 1: you did a random act of flying? Yell, how was
Speaker 1: that experience? Because I used to watch that a smoke.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Yo, that's a perfect that's the trip
Speaker 1: all you gotta smoke watching? Um that was that was
Speaker 1: a wild experience actually filming that. Um, I'm in it
Speaker 1: for like a second. I'm not. I don't even do
Speaker 1: anything crazy and it, but um, just even being a
Speaker 1: part of that. What was also cool was that, like, um,
Speaker 1: a friend of mine when I went to school with
Speaker 1: is the choreographer on the show. It was cool to like,
Speaker 1: you know kind of right exactly. It was a nice
Speaker 1: little full circle moment. Um. Yeah, No, that show was
Speaker 1: That show was wild. That's a wild show. Terence is
Speaker 1: really cool. Um, he was fun to work with. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's an interesting show. Season one is very
Speaker 1: different from season two. And you weren't Compton straight to
Speaker 1: Compton too, right? I was, I was, But there's a
Speaker 1: there's a whole story behind Okay, So basically what was
Speaker 1: that in two thousand and like what was that like
Speaker 1: or something like that? Um, So I tested to play
Speaker 1: Dr Dre initially, that was my initial relationship with that movie.
Speaker 1: I was. I was up to play Dr Dre in it. Um.
Speaker 1: I did the screen test and everything I thought it
Speaker 1: went really well. Um, you know, I am waiting to
Speaker 1: find out if I get the role. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: Billboard publishers that I had the role. Right. The problem is,
Speaker 1: didn't nobody tell me that. They didn't tell me that
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So I hear it. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm reaching out to my managers like, yo, like, how
Speaker 1: did that happen? It's on the internet that I've been
Speaker 1: cast to play Dr Dre but they didn't. Why does
Speaker 1: Billboard know before I do? I don't sound right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, but like all these you know,
Speaker 1: because once you know, say, like a Billboard breaks that
Speaker 1: kind of news, basically all the other outlets take the
Speaker 1: same information and posted as well. So it was all
Speaker 1: over the place. So my friends is hit him like, yo,
Speaker 1: you goot to be Dr Dre. So Yo, that's crazy,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait, hold on, I don't know yet
Speaker 1: they didn't. I don't know, long behole. I'm on Instagram.
Speaker 1: You see my relationship with Instagram. Here this ship. I'm
Speaker 1: on Instagram. You know what I'm saying. I scrolled So
Speaker 1: the guy that plays uh Dr Dre in the film,
Speaker 1: Corey Hawkins, is a friend of mine. So I'm scrolling
Speaker 1: and I get to his page. He's an l in
Speaker 1: l A with the sun in his face, looking refreshed.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, looking like Dre. Right, So I'm right, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, if he's in l A right now. Damn,
Speaker 1: my heart dropped. Yo. That was like my first experience
Speaker 1: in learning how the industry could be very tough, meaning
Speaker 1: like nobody reached out on something like Yo, that was awful.
Speaker 1: We should you know that new shouldn't have came out.
Speaker 1: It just nothing ever happened at the sort. What they
Speaker 1: did do was offer me that role and straight out
Speaker 1: of compa. It's a small role. I'm in the scene
Speaker 1: where the recording um boys in the hood for the
Speaker 1: first time, and I'm a part of the rap from
Speaker 1: New York. So it's a it was a nice moment.
Speaker 1: Shout out to f Gary Gray, the director. It was
Speaker 1: a nice moment where you know, you could get a
Speaker 1: little screen time and ship you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: right right right. There was still no We're sorry. It
Speaker 1: wasn't verbally said, but um yeah, so that's that's that's
Speaker 1: and I just told you all the short version of it.
Speaker 1: So that's how I ended up in the film. But
Speaker 1: um all and on I love that movie. Like I was,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, like I was salty that I
Speaker 1: didn't get the role, especially and how I found out
Speaker 1: that I didn't get it. But you know. Once I
Speaker 1: saw the film, you know, it was it was all good.
Speaker 1: That's one thing about me I'm gonna give credit credit
Speaker 1: is do regardless. You know what I'm saying, You hater, Marcus,
Speaker 1: I ain't know, Hayter. I saw it three times in
Speaker 1: the theater. It's good. It was really good. All right. Now,
Speaker 1: I want to give your business real quick, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna let you go in a minute. Back to distant loving.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a long distance relationship? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you in with now? No? No, I don't do
Speaker 1: those anymore. Why Uh, it's too especially like with my
Speaker 1: lifestyle is too it's too hard. It's too it's a
Speaker 1: lot of extra effort and work. Um not that I
Speaker 1: don't want to put an extra effort and work, but
Speaker 1: I you other people, No, no, no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no, it's just it would have to make sense.
Speaker 1: It would have to make sense, you know what I'm saying. Also,
Speaker 1: you know you know what I'm gonna do. What I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do on on the on the on the nights.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like like y'all, I don't
Speaker 1: know people get you know what I'm saying. I want
Speaker 1: to say yeah, that's cool. But you know, ain't nothing
Speaker 1: like the real thing one mom, and ain't nothing like exactly.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's it's cool. I think it.
Speaker 1: In order for me to be in a long distance
Speaker 1: it would have to make sense, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: it'll have to make sense, like I if I dated
Speaker 1: on one in l A, that will make sense because
Speaker 1: I'm there all the time anyway, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: but I still prefer not long distance. I prefer that
Speaker 1: if possible. So you so you single? Now the ladies
Speaker 1: want to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah I'm single. Somebody think
Speaker 1: that your girlfriend? Why is that like that? Because you
Speaker 1: don't sound too show exactly. I'm just saying like that.
Speaker 1: I didn't saying like exactly that. I mean, look, is
Speaker 1: there somebody that I really really enjoy spending time with
Speaker 1: right now? Yes? There is, um And you know, we
Speaker 1: were gonna see, we're gonna see how that blossoms. So far.
Speaker 1: It's it's really nice so far, So we're gonna see
Speaker 1: how that blossoms. Technically, technically, I am saying, yet, are
Speaker 1: you for a marriage? They see the value in marriage?
Speaker 1: I do, But there was a time when I did it,
Speaker 1: meaning so I didn't grow up, I didn't grow up
Speaker 1: in the two parent household. So for me, it's literally
Speaker 1: foreign to me. Like I don't even I don't even
Speaker 1: know what that looks like. So for a long time,
Speaker 1: I wasn't really that wasn't really something I looked at
Speaker 1: as a goal, you know what I'm saying. I definitely
Speaker 1: want to have kids for show. I definitely want to
Speaker 1: have children, but I was cool with having kids without
Speaker 1: the marriage. That was very fine with that. Um. But
Speaker 1: you know, in conversations that I've had with people who
Speaker 1: are either married or um have grown up with parents
Speaker 1: that are married, it kind of changed my perspective a
Speaker 1: little bit in the sense that like, yeah, it can
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of benefit to that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Um, So you know, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little older now, so it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's I'm definitely dating with intention, Like you know,
Speaker 1: if i'm if if i'm if I'm seeing you, like
Speaker 1: if if we get together, if I you know, if
Speaker 1: you become my girlfriend, I'm definitely looking at you as
Speaker 1: somebody who, um, I see potentially being a wife. Absolutely so.
Speaker 1: All right, we have this segment on our show called
Speaker 1: Dumbing Story or SIMP series. Right, easy way to say this,
Speaker 1: and it's a time when people share a time where
Speaker 1: they got played by the opposite sex. Can you think
Speaker 1: of a time where a chick like you was like,
Speaker 1: damn had to do it like that. You don't stemmed
Speaker 1: once or twice. Let us know everybody has and don't
Speaker 1: tell us no where I got played. Yeah, um, let
Speaker 1: me see, don't talk about the ninth grade. Every time
Speaker 1: I nigga on here, they'd be like, yeah, when I
Speaker 1: was because girl stole my candy, you know, like NY
Speaker 1: could tell us some real ship. Damn, Like you said,
Speaker 1: they'll be trying to put that ship so far back
Speaker 1: far in the back of their mind. Remember, oh, you
Speaker 1: flew somebody out and then they left with your homies.
Speaker 1: She actually for money, but it was really fun to
Speaker 1: get something. They got a jail. I would say, like, um,
Speaker 1: I mean the only thing I could think right now
Speaker 1: is there was a young lady I was This was
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Um, this was like right
Speaker 1: before I started from the root tank. Actually, there was
Speaker 1: this young lady I was very interested in. Um, and
Speaker 1: I thought we was on a good accord, but she
Speaker 1: kind of she kind of ghosted me basically, Um, I
Speaker 1: was on my way to the airport. We're on facetimepor
Speaker 1: keep oh like hit me when you you know, when
Speaker 1: you land and all that. I hit her up when
Speaker 1: I land. Nothing, called her again. Nothing. She goes to me.
Speaker 1: She knows who she is too, because I've seen a
Speaker 1: sense you saw her. According to her, I stopped talking
Speaker 1: to her. You know, like that's another thing you'll like
Speaker 1: to do. You'll like to do it a little switcher. Ya. No,
Speaker 1: I did it. She didn't go to me like it
Speaker 1: ain't a ghost. Okay, I didn't go you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna use I'm gonna use that one to let me
Speaker 1: use that one. Oh no, we don't count we are. Sayah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use that one to you said it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you said because y'all, yeah, y'all be on some other
Speaker 1: ship and women y'all like we don't we uh, we
Speaker 1: probably do like a mutual ghost. Oftentimes either were friends
Speaker 1: on your ass or we don't talk to you no more.
Speaker 1: But men they're gonna snatch you first then then disappear,
Speaker 1: or friends on you. I don't do that no more,
Speaker 1: I don't do that. That was the That was the old.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I'm saying now if I know
Speaker 1: it's not going on, what or if I know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling that this ain't gonna work, I don't
Speaker 1: even want to do you tell her though? Are you
Speaker 1: just ghost But if we didn't smash, it s not ghosting? Right,
Speaker 1: it's not so she didn't she didn't go what if?
Speaker 1: But what if you've been talking for a couple of months?
Speaker 1: Are you still in smash? But like the report has
Speaker 1: been there and you stopped talking just out of that Definitely,
Speaker 1: as long as I didn't give my coochie up, I
Speaker 1: do not feel like I got Really you can you
Speaker 1: can have feelings for somebody without having sex sex. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I feel like. Ultimate see for me the
Speaker 1: mindset I'm in that I mean obviously, like, if there's
Speaker 1: somebody who like this is the relationship we have where
Speaker 1: you know, we just funking around and ship. If that's
Speaker 1: the case, that's the case. But for me, if I'm interested,
Speaker 1: if I'm really interested in somebody, oh, I need to
Speaker 1: get to know you first. I need to see what's
Speaker 1: good because yo, sex is always better when you like
Speaker 1: the person right or for it or for it even
Speaker 1: if like oh, they don't do it, like, it's still
Speaker 1: popping because you like the person. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like this is somebody like I like to cuddle. I
Speaker 1: wanna I want to I want to cuddle left, I wanna.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, If I'm not feeling you like that,
Speaker 1: You're gonna see a different side of me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, um, if you develop a relationship
Speaker 1: with somebody, getting to know somebody, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you stopped talking, that's
Speaker 1: still a ghost You still ghosted. We didn't have sex,
Speaker 1: but there's intimacy there. Like, right, did what does she
Speaker 1: say when you sorry? She said, I stopped talking? She
Speaker 1: just basically bullshit? Yeah, and then I then I saw
Speaker 1: her I with her fucking boyfriend and ship. I said,
Speaker 1: that's your man. Alright, cool, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Everything happens for a reason. Everything happens for a reason, Marcus,
Speaker 1: Tell everybody where they can find you, tell them about
Speaker 1: this show where they can watch it. All that good stuff.
Speaker 1: What you got coming up next? Everything. So um, think
Speaker 1: of social media wise, you can find me on uh
Speaker 1: at at distant loving on Instagram is one word um.
Speaker 1: That's also my um my tag on Twitter too, it's
Speaker 1: at distant loving. Um. What I got coming up next?
Speaker 1: I'm actually writing a movie right now. I'm a co
Speaker 1: writer on the film, so that's kind of like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's kind of been my main focus right now.
Speaker 1: Woo Tank is coming out February fifteen. Make sure you're
Speaker 1: tuned into that on Hulu. Season three, our final season,
Speaker 1: by the way, perfect for that that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And we dropped and we drop. We're gonna
Speaker 1: drop three episodes from when it comes episodes to watch.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Marcus for join us. You give
Speaker 1: us a really good interview. Thank you, Thank you for
Speaker 1: having me. All Right, we're coming send us information for
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