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Speaker 1: for a new episode that we talked back, A show

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Speaker 1: dedicated to you, nigga's and these holes. It's your co host,

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Speaker 1: a J Holiday. What's out? Tim? Hey girl, Hey y'all,

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Speaker 1: it's me Tim Vam. I love y'all. Thank y'all for tuning.

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Speaker 1: Ay J. How's your weekend? It's a me mighty hole.

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Speaker 1: I was showing up this weekend. I don't do much, um,

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Speaker 1: just dinner, drinks. That's about it, saying I didn't uh.

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Speaker 1: I didn't hang out until Sunday. I came outside a

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Speaker 1: was real chill, taking it easy because next weekend it's

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls. It's let it's Reana Bowl right now. I

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Speaker 1: do want the Eagles to win, Okay, I feel like

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Speaker 1: they are. They got out your good energy, so yeah, yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl parties. I could pull up all right, I

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Speaker 1: want to go get all the Super Bowl food. Just

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Speaker 1: all I can have is meat and vegetables, though in cheese,

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Speaker 1: I can't have anything sweet or bread or I know

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Speaker 1: I funked up last night though I'm out of cutosis.

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Speaker 1: I know I am today. I'm starting back over now.

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Speaker 1: I can't do a super restrictive diet like that. I

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Speaker 1: have tried, Jesus Christ. I mean, the most restrictive thing

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Speaker 1: Other than that, I'll just try to cut back because

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Speaker 1: if it, you need a chocolate your cookie every now

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Speaker 1: and then. Alright, so let me see what we got

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Speaker 1: going on there this week and stupid internet news the

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Speaker 1: sins of a week. It's Black History Month, and like

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Speaker 1: Malcolm X once said, the white man will try to

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Speaker 1: satisfy us with symbolic victories rather than economic equity and

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Speaker 1: real justice. That's when Malcolm X once said, and here

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Speaker 1: we are in and we got schools in New York

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Speaker 1: City serving our children chicken and waffles and watermelons. I

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Speaker 1: like that ship. I that ship. I'm sorry. I love chicken.

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Speaker 1: I love waffles and I love watermelon. I would have

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Speaker 1: been so happy at school with that meal. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: serve it every day, have it, serve it as a

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Speaker 1: delicacy once a month or something. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: you wait till Black History Month to serve that to

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Speaker 1: the students. M hmm, all right. It's kind of like,

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Speaker 1: damned if you do damned if you don't like how

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Speaker 1: do you how do you want to celebrate Black History?

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Speaker 1: It was I feel like we want the check I

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Speaker 1: just told you with Malcolm mar An elementary school. At

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Speaker 1: an elementary school, they thought that they probably thought it

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Speaker 1: was a fun way to incorporate something that black people

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Speaker 1: enjoy for Black History. You are assuming that all black

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Speaker 1: people enjoy. I don't need chicken. I don't eat fried chicken.

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Speaker 1: When I get the waffles, I might get fried shrimp

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Speaker 1: on the side. White people eat that ship too, What

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Speaker 1: History money on the first day in school with these

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Speaker 1: everybody else And watermelon And if I wish people would

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Speaker 1: are associated with watermelon, it really wasn't because we just

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Speaker 1: money selling watermelon, and that would include selling watermelon to

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Speaker 1: white people. Everybody likes a nice cold watermelon slice on

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Speaker 1: a goddamn Sunday when it's hot outside. That is that

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Speaker 1: watermelon chicken and waffles on the first day of Black

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Speaker 1: Vendor issued an apology after the lunch they gave students

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Speaker 1: History Month was deemed in sensitive. I agree lunch, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: lunch of chicken and waffles with watermelon for dessert, which

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Speaker 1: a middle school student, had to correct adults man, waffles stupid, stupid,

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Speaker 1: This is what chicken and waffles is so Florida State

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Speaker 1: Representative Dottie Joseph says that the Miami police car misses

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Speaker 1: wrong continent. It was the wrong continent on the goddamn ship.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we need money. We don't need um even

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Speaker 1: it's awesome bullshit. You know, every other group of people

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Speaker 1: hate crime bill. We're get nothing. We never get anything.

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Speaker 1: We just got the anti lynching bill passed in Mattel

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Speaker 1: economic advancement at this point, and they ain't trying to

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Speaker 1: give it to us. So what's next? I say, force?

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Speaker 1: But anyway next? Yeah, because Matil died in very long

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Speaker 1: Black History monthy guys. What else happened? Yeah? The Grammys

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Speaker 1: something like I gotta see the Grammys. I should be

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Speaker 1: Might as well. Why are we talking about the Grammys?

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Speaker 1: So listen the Batty of the Week. This week goes

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Speaker 1: to Viola Davis. Okay, Viola Davis Jones only seventeen other

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Speaker 1: That matters, that's most important. Absolutely, Congratulations Viola Davis. You

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Speaker 1: Batty who talks back. So I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: this balloon. Tell me that was floating over the United

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Speaker 1: I need to know. China said. Look, China got rebuttaled

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Speaker 1: after they shot that balloon. And down. China said it

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Speaker 1: suspective spy balloon. The thing is, I don't believe that

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Speaker 1: the balloon was a spy balloon. China conspire on us

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Speaker 1: a TikTok and all these other things. Devices are made

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Speaker 1: That was symbolism, is what that was like. Play with us,

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Speaker 1: We're pulling up. That's how I felt about the balloon

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Speaker 1: They have all of our information. Did you let's go

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Speaker 1: Like the Swiss don't mind, they fun, They mind they

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Speaker 1: But they don't get in nobody's ship, not publicly. But

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Speaker 1: literally being everything in history. Switzerland has something to do

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Speaker 1: I'm like the Swiss, you know, the ship, but you

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Speaker 1: it's wild man, It's a wild time. And I just

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Speaker 1: make another one. I mean our knows that I'm talking

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Speaker 1: mm yeah, they know what they're doing to Jamaica. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why I want citizenship in another country. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: want to go to Barbados. I want citizens citizenship in Barbados. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We are gonna tell Wu Tang claiming there ain't nothing

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Speaker 1: I mean, Marcus Callender, welcome to We Talked Back. What's up? Hey, Marcus?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us, Thank you, thank you for

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Speaker 1: rain Now, man, how are you gonna kill the baby?

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Speaker 1: in the audience. But I also think a large part

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00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: of that has to do with like this just shows

422
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: that's just ain't for us, you know what I'm saying,

423
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: Either it's not for us, or it's a lot of

424
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: like if it is written by a black person. A

425
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: lot of the time, the plays that are written by

426
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: black people that get produced on those on a scale

427
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: like that, it's like trauma related, which in my opinion,

428
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: white folks love to go to the theater and watch

429
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: black folks in trauma, you know what I mean, They

430
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: love to right right exactly crying boo hoo about oh no,

431
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Woe is me? I say,

432
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: funk all of that. You know what I mean. We

433
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: we live, breathe, that's every day. So for for me, yo,

434
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: just tell me a story. What happened today? You know

435
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Tell me your story. And with with Space.

436
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: So basically, Space is about a group of friends, four

437
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: friends that uh well three of them. They all went

438
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: to college together, real close friends. Um. They get together

439
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: on a Friday night for a game of space. Right,

440
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: we love us some space? Do you play space? Yeah? Yeah, Okay,

441
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: I need to know. And that's the exactly So that's

442
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: the energy, that's the energy of the play. Right. So

443
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: it's a Friday night, takes place in harm It actually

444
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: takes place in two thousand and thirteen, so it's a

445
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: it's a period piece, I guess, um takes place in

446
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: Hall on Friday night. They're getting together for a game

447
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: of space. What's different about tonight is that Corey just

448
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: lost her virginity to another character named on three days

449
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: prior to this Space game. Now they're all twenty three

450
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: years old, fresh out of college, figuring it out, their actors, artists,

451
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 1: they're just living in New York and that that New

452
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: York City life, trying to figure it out. Right, So

453
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: Cory is low Sufforginity three days prior to Andre. It's

454
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: the first time she's seeing this nigga since they haven't

455
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: really spoken, and j has been kind of ducking and

456
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: dodging her. He's been on some nigga ship. So now

457
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: they're getting together for the space game. On top of that,

458
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: another character named Gil whose house they're at this nigga

459
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: don't went and invited one of his co workers for

460
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: this game of space. Now you know how it is

461
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: with a new space partner. I don't know you like that.

462
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't trust you, right you betting Irene. So so

463
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: now you've got a new space partner. But not only

464
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: is she a new space partner, show they don't know

465
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: how to play, she says she did, but she don't

466
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: really know how to play. On top of that, she's

467
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: way old than the three of them. She bought in

468
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: her thirties hanging out with these twenty something year olds.

469
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: On top of that, herr Andre got a little something

470
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: and something. So that's what the play is about. Oh

471
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: that sounds good, Oh it's good. So so the idea

472
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: is so the idea is like, not only do I

473
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: want to put this play up because I just think

474
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: it will be I just think people will will really

475
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: enjoy it. It's also it's what I'm trying to curate

476
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: for the night, you know what I mean, Like it'll

477
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: be dope, Like you come in and like, yo, maybe

478
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: you know before the show starts, like there's a little

479
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: there's you know, some tables in the libby. Get a

480
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: little space gate, go and get the camaraderie. Gonna get

481
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: a drink. I love to get a space that's smoking friendly. Yeah,

482
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: I watch the PA walk one up. You know what

483
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I want that call and response vibe. You

484
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because that's that's I want the

485
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 1: audience to feel like they're in the living room with

486
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: them at this space game because she's getting crazy. Yeah,

487
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: but you know sometimes space table can get dangerous though

488
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: it can't exactly. So you already got the You already

489
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: got the energy of what a space bread a Spades

490
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: game brings on top of the layers of Lightwait, Corey

491
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: ain't seen this, nigga, since what I wanted? Why is

492
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: core three just losing her virginity. It just gave it away.

493
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: So oh that comes up and that you gotta you

494
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: gotta watch. Yeah, that's probably be pressing her since da

495
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: was eighteen, just to get the fly and then you know,

496
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: you know how it is when you're young man, you

497
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: know sometimes you you know. So yeah, I think it

498
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: will be dope. Um. So it actually took me five

499
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: years to write it. Um. So now that it's written,

500
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: it's just it's um. It's the process of getting produced,

501
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 1: which is has been a a long process. But at

502
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm trying. I want to

503
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: do it right. I'm also gonna direct it myself too.

504
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: So so you're a trained that's being So do you

505
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: prefer theater or a screen or you know, moving? Um uh,

506
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: I think both are really good. But you know, the

507
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: theater always wins for me. Man, it's nothing like it,

508
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: you know, because it's it's it's live, and it's it's

509
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: fresh every night. Um. And it's just it keeps you

510
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: on your toes. To me, that's where you learn how

511
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: to act. If you don't know how to do it

512
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: on stage, I can't, I can't. I can't funk with you,

513
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: no offense. You know, say, my favorite actors know how

514
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: to do it on screen and on the stage just

515
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: as good. There's no oh they're better on screen because no,

516
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: this it's not that on screen acting is bad. It's

517
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: actually like you know, if you if you can master

518
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: that as well, it's a really beautiful craft. But you know,

519
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you should be able to do both.

520
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: You should be able to know how to act for

521
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: the camera and then turn around and go do a

522
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: show eight uh and turn around and go do a

523
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: show eight shows a week. You know. Yeah, So how

524
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: old were you when you knew? Yeah, how old were

525
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: you when you knew you wanted to be an actor? Like?

526
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: Was there something you always grew sixty years old? Um?

527
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: I was sixteen. I mean, when I think back about

528
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: just how I was as a kid, I was always

529
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: naturally a performer. Like I was one of those kids

530
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: where when I was at home waiting for my mom

531
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: to come back from work, I was, you know, I

532
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: had to imagine every friends. I would, you know, make

533
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: up little shows. I had this little this little um,

534
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: this little wooden this little wooden thing that I would

535
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: stand up on and brush my teeth and like I

536
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: would use it like that would be my little platform

537
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: and ship. UM. But I didn't really get into it

538
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: till I was sixteen. I had a teacher name is

539
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: m and shout out to miss Ballman Um who basically,

540
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, recognized the gift that I had. And UM,

541
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: it just so happened that they were auditioning Raising in

542
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: the Sun at my at my school, UM, and I

543
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: audistioned forward, I got the lead, and I've been acting

544
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: literally ever since then. I caught the bug, as they say,

545
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: you spoke of your mother and I saw that you

546
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: were named after Marcus Garvey. Yes, yeah, yeah I did.

547
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know what. I think I posted it.

548
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: I think I posted that. I'm out of posted that.

549
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, So, UM, are your parents very politically inclined?

550
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: Is there any like organizations that you you black panthers?

551
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't say that. UM. So Marcus Garvey

552
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: is Jamaican, My dad is Jamaican. Um Um. But also

553
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: if you don't know about Marcus Garvey, he's definitely worth

554
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: doing the research on. Very powerful leader. Back in the day,

555
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: UM he started something in Harlem called um UM. They

556
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: called it Garvey is UM and he had people that

557
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: followed his work called Garvey. Yikes. His whole ideology was, Yo,

558
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: they don't want us here anyway, so let's go home,

559
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: back to Africa where we that's our spot. So his

560
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: his whole thing was about bringing black people back home. Um,

561
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: but he is Jamaican. Um, so I think that's probably

562
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: where my You know what also inspired my dad to

563
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: name me that. I actually just came back from Jamaica

564
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: for vacation, and like, you know what I learned there too,

565
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: was that Bob Marley was also like a big admirer

566
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: of Marcus Garvey. Like in his room he has a

567
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: huge portrait of um Um Hill Selassie, which is who

568
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: um he prayed to, and um Marcus Garvey. So when

569
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: I found that out, I was like, okay, where So, yes,

570
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: I am named after Mr Marcus Garvey. We're gonna have

571
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: a real quick commercial and then when we come back,

572
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: we're going to get into Wootang. Okay, all right, let's second,

573
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: y'all we'll be back, so I want to get into Wootang. Right.

574
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: So I know you're from Brooklyn, New York. Were you

575
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: a big Wu Tang fan growing up? Nah? Yeah? Like

576
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: the age the age difference, you know, I mean a

577
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: little younger, Yeah, I mean a little yeah, a little bit.

578
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: I mean they were out when I was kid, for sure.

579
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: But I was the reason I was an incident is well,

580
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: when I was younger, I didn't really listen to rap

581
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: music like that. Um uh. And on top of that,

582
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: I remember that album cover that it always kind of

583
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: looked a little scary to me, like what's what's this about?

584
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Um So, yeah, never to

585
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: get different. They were different, they were different, they were

586
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: very different. Um So I never really got into them

587
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: as a kid at all. Um. It wasn't until like

588
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: doing the show that I really started to like Hold.

589
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean even prior to doing the show, like I

590
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: was a big Ray Kwon fan, Like only Built for

591
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Cuban Lynx is the album I really enjoyed. Um. But

592
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: in doing artists right exactly, in doing the show, you know,

593
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: I got an opportunity to learn a lot about them

594
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: and hear a whole bunch of these songs. So I'm

595
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: definitely a fan. I got a big old Wutang tattoo

596
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: on my leg now so big that So you played

597
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: the executive producer on Ultang, But did you have to

598
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: sit down with Power himself, like to learn his mannerisms

599
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: and things and to learn how he moves or like,

600
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: I guess, how did you ultimately become Power? Okay, uh

601
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: so the beautiful thing is that, Um well, first of all,

602
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: it real lifed. Me and Power are actually really close.

603
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: Um we definitely um formed the friendship outside of the show.

604
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: Um but before before I started filming it, I didn't

605
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: know who Power was, you know, because Power is you know,

606
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: he's a He's a background kind of dude. You know

607
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's not you know, he's not really

608
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: one for flashy. Him and I have actually pretty similar

609
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: in you know, because you mentioned like I don't post

610
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: on social media. Him and I like kind of similar

611
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: like that. You know, we we we chilled, you know

612
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But if you know, you know, um

613
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: so I didn't know much about him. I looked up

614
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: some interviews that's about like two or three on YouTube.

615
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't even that much. But my whole time, like

616
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: going through the audition process to like, you know, my

617
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: screen tests, all of that, I didn't look up. I

618
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: hadn't looked up anything. I was just going off of

619
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: what I was doing so mynd I'm like, Okay, clearly

620
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 1: what I'm bringing they like it. This is working because

621
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: I didn't want to like get in my head, like

622
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: I didn't want to look him up, and then like

623
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm in my head and I'm

624
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: like trying to do him. I'm just I was just

625
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: going in based off of my instinct from reading the role. Mhm,

626
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: get the role. I looked up the interviews and I'm like, oh, ship, Okay,

627
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: I kind of see why they cast me, as I

628
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: get it. Him and him and I off Rip have

629
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: similar we have a similar energy, you know what I mean? Um.

630
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: And then I didn't actually meet him in real life

631
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: until we were about seven episodes in season one, until

632
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: I actually met him, Like everybody else had met who

633
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: they were playing, and I was like the only one.

634
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, what am I gonna be? Power? You

635
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But in knowing power and how

636
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: he moves, it makes sense that yeah, I was the

637
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: last one of you know what I'm saying, because he

638
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: you know, he got a yeah, you know, he gotta

639
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: scoop it out, you know what I'm saying. As he

640
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: right as as he likes support. As he likes to say,

641
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: he had to send a couple of kites out, you

642
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So he met me. We met

643
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: on set. Actually he actually surprised me. I was I

644
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: adn't expecting to be there. We got on the phone. Um,

645
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: we got on the phone because we we had to

646
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: pause production because it was raining crazy, So we got

647
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: on the phone for a little bit and our first

648
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: conversation we spoke for like three hours, just chopping it. Yeah,

649
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: just chopping it up, you know what I mean. New York,

650
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: New York, you know, you know what's said. That's another

651
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: thing about Power. Power is a big hand gesture kind

652
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: of person. He'll smack you on the arm a lot

653
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: when he's talking, like yo, yo. Um. So we got

654
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: on the phone. We spoke for like three hours. Next

655
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: thing you know, he was on set. So he came

656
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: to my trailer and we was just chopping it up,

657
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: and it was like yo, like oh ship, like this

658
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: is this is power, Like this this is the dude

659
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm playing. That's crazy, you know what I'm saying. So

660
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: in my head I'm just like yo, I hope I'm

661
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: doing a good job. I hope I'm did he ever

662
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: say like, na, nigga, that ain't me. Don't do it

663
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: like that, do it no no, no, no, no no no

664
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: no no never never. I think from and and and

665
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm really thankful of that because from from Jump he

666
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: trusted me. From Jump, he just kind of was like, yo,

667
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: like do your thing. You know what I'm saying, I'm

668
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna just watch season one goes by. But

669
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: in season one you don't see my character too much

670
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: because you don't see my character that in season two

671
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: when we realized exactly exactly, cause I mean, because that's

672
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: the thing in Growing up Power he knew he knew, um,

673
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: but his man's was like Ray, Ray kwas was his man's.

674
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying exactly, Ray was his man's.

675
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: He knew ris it through you know what. I'm also

676
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: fun fact me and Risen went to the same elementary

677
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: school in Brooklyn. Three shout out to that. That's some ship.

678
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: Um so um yeah. Growing up Ray was more his

679
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: man's than Risen. So that's why you don't really see

680
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: Power season one because it's like powers off doing his

681
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: own thing. Because Power Power was already a boss from that,

682
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, which is why he was

683
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: able to contribute what he did. When you saw season two,

684
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: when he dropped that money, he was already he already

685
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: had that, um but it was like that decision to

686
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: like make that cross over. So before we started season two, Um, luckily,

687
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, due to the pandemic, you know, we kind

688
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: of got delayed in filming and all of that, and

689
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,479
Speaker 1: that allowed for me and Power to like talk a lot.

690
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: We was on the phone almost every day, um, but

691
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: just as but not even just on something like yo,

692
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: this is how I talked, this is what I do.

693
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: Study me. We just really got along like that, you

694
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's just we was always

695
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: on the phone talking and I got an opportunity. Um.

696
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: So he does pop up sometimes for who with in

697
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: different cities. So I got to go to a couple

698
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: of them, I did. You know, he didn't want in Miami,

699
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: didn't want in d C, didn't want in l A.

700
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: And I went to all of those. So in that

701
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: time too, I just got to spend a lot of

702
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: time with him, just you know, be around him, see

703
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: certain mannerisms and you know, just kind of take them

704
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: in and study it. Um. So yeah, I got some

705
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: time with him, but it didn't feel like it was

706
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: organic still, Like it didn't feel like, oh, this is

707
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: I'm only hanging out with you because I was right.

708
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: We was kicking and shooting and ship and just in

709
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: the back of my mind, I'm like, okay, world, I

710
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: keep that, you know, I'm yeah, you know, even a

711
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: small I'm big on details. Yeah, just that. Yeah, that's it.

712
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: That how he smoll sweed. Uh, how he even counts money,

713
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because Nigga's like that count

714
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: money in a certain kind of way. They don't want to.

715
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: It's you know what I'm saying. So it's like even

716
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: getting that you know what I'm saying, all of that ship,

717
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: you know. And I remember meeting some of his people's

718
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: after season two and they're like, yo, you got powered

719
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: down pat Yo, Like Yo, I thought I was watching

720
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: power on TV. Yo he put the battery and you

721
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: know you appreciate you know what I mean. So, um,

722
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: but we're not that far off from each other, you

723
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it wasn't. It wasn't. I

724
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't say easy. It just wasn't. It felt it felt

725
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: it felt almost second nature a little bit, you know

726
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, like we don't dress the same,

727
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that maybe like we walk

728
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 1: slightly differently, but it's like our my set, it's very similar.

729
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: So like how I approached you know, even some of

730
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: the dialogue is just it was just like, oh word,

731
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: like I I understand this. I feel the same way too,

732
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, So a lot of

733
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: that were a lot of the group members on set

734
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: when you guys were recording, like Rizzin Rizzon was there sometimes,

735
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: but they were very, very very hands off, which I

736
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: thought was a good idea because at the end of

737
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: the day, you know, everyone was cast for a reason.

738
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: Even if they don't look like the person that they're playing,

739
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: everybody at least had the spirit, the vibe, you know

740
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like everybody felt like their character, know

741
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you met rizz though, right a

742
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: bunch of times? So that is it the guy who

743
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: plays his character, Aston Sanders, Is that how Rizzin acts

744
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: in real life? Come on? She was like, Yo, I've

745
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: been watching and I'm worried about that nigga, Like that

746
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: that real you gotta ask you, gotta asks you, So

747
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: you don't know how he felt about his character, Like,

748
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: I know you know some inside ship who felt what

749
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: way about who played them? No, I was like, is

750
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: this real? It's happening? No, dick that that guy is

751
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: a good actor though, asking Sanders, So, I'm assuming maybe

752
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: he studied. It must be right and that must be

753
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: how it was if that's what he was doing. Do

754
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: you have any more questions? I have a question overall?

755
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: So I hear a lot of actors say that, you know,

756
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: some of the characters that they play helped them grow

757
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: as a person. Is there any character that you played

758
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: that like, really like changed you just by being this character?

759
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: Mm hmm that's a good question. Um uh, that's a

760
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: good question. Um, has a character changed me as a person?

761
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: You're like, no, you ain't become a murderer, right, we

762
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: know you hopefully. Um that's a good question. I got

763
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: a theory about niggas in Hollywood. Now, what is it spelling?

764
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: Why you think about it's easy for them? Like, I

765
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: don't know why we think that people like celebrities and

766
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: should are exempt from real life ship, like they could

767
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 1: be serial killers, you know, and nobody would ever serial killer.

768
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: It's some crazy nigga. UM, But I can't believe that

769
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: was the theory. I thought that I just described the

770
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: serial killers too. Should they can depended out of cities. Yeah,

771
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird that you think about. That's the point, Um,

772
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: I would say, I would say Um. I mean, I

773
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: would say Power, Playing power UM has definitely Um has

774
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: had a huge impact in my life because just even

775
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: playing that role, understanding who power is, that's the thing

776
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: to like power and and and I talked to him

777
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: about this too too, Like Yo, like you gotta tell

778
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: your story because there's a lot of people that need

779
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: to hear this side, you know what I mean. Like

780
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: because not every you don't gotta be a rapple all

781
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: the time, you know what I mean. There's also another

782
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: lane too, where you know, you could be the person

783
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: putting up the bread. You could be the person that's

784
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: that's putting shipped together, starting the label start, you know

785
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: what I mean. There's executive positions in the music industry

786
00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: and not just performing all the time, but in playing power. UM.

787
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: One thing I love about Power in real life he's

788
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: the same way everywhere he goes. He's not like he

789
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: don't switch up, you know, change how he talks depending

790
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: on who he's talking to. He's the same person everywhere

791
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: he goes. And I just find that very admirable because,

792
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think one of the most beautiful things

793
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: we could do as human beings, as human beings, is

794
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: be ourselves. You know what I'm saying, no matter what

795
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: the scenario and so who you're talking to, what the

796
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: situation is, um. And I think that that, you know,

797
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: that was something really big UM that I take from him,

798
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, not that I felt

799
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: like I was not being myself, but if anything, it

800
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: just it inspires me to tap into that even more,

801
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. There was a period and

802
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, this was a this was a side effect

803
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: of you know, going to drama school. There was a

804
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: period where I didn't want people to necessarily know I

805
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: was from New York or I was from Brooklyn. Like

806
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: I would try to put on like a neutral accent

807
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: so that you don't know, you know, because I'm an

808
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: actor and you're not supposed to know where I'm really

809
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: fun funk all of that. I'm from Brooklyn, born and raised.

810
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm a Brooklyn as nigger, Okay, and I'm proud of it,

811
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know,

812
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: and that's something I embraced no matter what, you know,

813
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: what role I take on or you know what I'm saying,

814
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: Like I mean, obviously, if it's a specific character that's

815
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: not from Brooklyn and I gotta tap into that, that's

816
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: a different story. But who I am is Marcus Calendar.

817
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm from New York. I'm from Brooklyn. And you know,

818
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: if you know anything about New Yorker's I should tell

819
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: you a lotus just got to say about what you

820
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 1: know Brooklyn. I don't know, girl is known for something.

821
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: What is Brooklyn known for? Uh? Fly? I thought that

822
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: they want to be known for that, But everybody know

823
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is the flyes because we don't try that hard,

824
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: all of them they try hard on speaking of flyingness,

825
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: you did a random act of flying? Yell, how was

826
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: that experience? Because I used to watch that a smoke.

827
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Yo, that's a perfect that's the trip

828
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: all you gotta smoke watching? Um that was that was

829
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: a wild experience actually filming that. Um, I'm in it

830
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: for like a second. I'm not. I don't even do

831
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: anything crazy and it, but um, just even being a

832
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: part of that. What was also cool was that, like, um,

833
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: a friend of mine when I went to school with

834
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: is the choreographer on the show. It was cool to like,

835
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: you know kind of right exactly. It was a nice

836
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: little full circle moment. Um. Yeah, No, that show was

837
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: That show was wild. That's a wild show. Terence is

838
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: really cool. Um, he was fun to work with. But yeah,

839
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: it's it's it's an interesting show. Season one is very

840
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: different from season two. And you weren't Compton straight to

841
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: Compton too, right? I was, I was, But there's a

842
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: there's a whole story behind Okay, So basically what was

843
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: that in two thousand and like what was that like

844
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: or something like that? Um, So I tested to play

845
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: Dr Dre initially, that was my initial relationship with that movie.

846
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: I was. I was up to play Dr Dre in it. Um.

847
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: I did the screen test and everything I thought it

848
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: went really well. Um, you know, I am waiting to

849
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: find out if I get the role. Next thing, you know,

850
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: Billboard publishers that I had the role. Right. The problem is,

851
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: didn't nobody tell me that. They didn't tell me that

852
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So I hear it. You know,

853
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: I'm reaching out to my managers like, yo, like, how

854
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: did that happen? It's on the internet that I've been

855
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: cast to play Dr Dre but they didn't. Why does

856
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: Billboard know before I do? I don't sound right, you

857
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, but like all these you know,

858
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: because once you know, say, like a Billboard breaks that

859
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: kind of news, basically all the other outlets take the

860
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: same information and posted as well. So it was all

861
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: over the place. So my friends is hit him like, yo,

862
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: you goot to be Dr Dre. So Yo, that's crazy,

863
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait, hold on, I don't know yet

864
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: they didn't. I don't know, long behole. I'm on Instagram.

865
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: You see my relationship with Instagram. Here this ship. I'm

866
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: on Instagram. You know what I'm saying. I scrolled So

867
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: the guy that plays uh Dr Dre in the film,

868
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: Corey Hawkins, is a friend of mine. So I'm scrolling

869
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: and I get to his page. He's an l in

870
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: l A with the sun in his face, looking refreshed.

871
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, looking like Dre. Right, So I'm right, wait,

872
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: hold on, if he's in l A right now. Damn,

873
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: my heart dropped. Yo. That was like my first experience

874
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: in learning how the industry could be very tough, meaning

875
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: like nobody reached out on something like Yo, that was awful.

876
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: We should you know that new shouldn't have came out.

877
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: It just nothing ever happened at the sort. What they

878
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: did do was offer me that role and straight out

879
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 1: of compa. It's a small role. I'm in the scene

880
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: where the recording um boys in the hood for the

881
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: first time, and I'm a part of the rap from

882
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: New York. So it's a it was a nice moment.

883
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: Shout out to f Gary Gray, the director. It was

884
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: a nice moment where you know, you could get a

885
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: little screen time and ship you know what I mean,

886
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: right right right. There was still no We're sorry. It

887
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: wasn't verbally said, but um yeah, so that's that's that's

888
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: and I just told you all the short version of it.

889
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: So that's how I ended up in the film. But

890
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: um all and on I love that movie. Like I was,

891
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, like I was salty that I

892
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: didn't get the role, especially and how I found out

893
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: that I didn't get it. But you know. Once I

894
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: saw the film, you know, it was it was all good.

895
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: That's one thing about me I'm gonna give credit credit

896
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: is do regardless. You know what I'm saying, You hater, Marcus,

897
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: I ain't know, Hayter. I saw it three times in

898
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: the theater. It's good. It was really good. All right. Now,

899
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: I want to give your business real quick, and we're

900
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna let you go in a minute. Back to distant loving.

901
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a long distance relationship? Yeah?

902
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: Are you in with now? No? No, I don't do

903
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: those anymore. Why Uh, it's too especially like with my

904
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: lifestyle is too it's too hard. It's too it's a

905
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: lot of extra effort and work. Um not that I

906
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,959
Speaker 1: don't want to put an extra effort and work, but

907
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: I you other people, No, no, no, no, no, no

908
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: no no, it's just it would have to make sense.

909
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: It would have to make sense, you know what I'm saying. Also,

910
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: you know you know what I'm gonna do. What I'm

911
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: gonna do on on the on the on the nights.

912
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like like y'all, I don't

913
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: know people get you know what I'm saying. I want

914
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: to say yeah, that's cool. But you know, ain't nothing

915
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: like the real thing one mom, and ain't nothing like exactly.

916
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's it's cool. I think it.

917
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: In order for me to be in a long distance

918
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: it would have to make sense, you know what I'm saying, Like,

919
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: it'll have to make sense, like I if I dated

920
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: on one in l A, that will make sense because

921
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm there all the time anyway, you know what I'm saying. So,

922
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: but I still prefer not long distance. I prefer that

923
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: if possible. So you so you single? Now the ladies

924
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: want to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah I'm single. Somebody think

925
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: that your girlfriend? Why is that like that? Because you

926
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: don't sound too show exactly. I'm just saying like that.

927
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: I didn't saying like exactly that. I mean, look, is

928
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: there somebody that I really really enjoy spending time with

929
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: right now? Yes? There is, um And you know, we

930
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: were gonna see, we're gonna see how that blossoms. So far.

931
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: It's it's really nice so far, So we're gonna see

932
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: how that blossoms. Technically, technically, I am saying, yet, are

933
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: you for a marriage? They see the value in marriage?

934
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,479
Speaker 1: I do, But there was a time when I did it,

935
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: meaning so I didn't grow up, I didn't grow up

936
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: in the two parent household. So for me, it's literally

937
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: foreign to me. Like I don't even I don't even

938
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: know what that looks like. So for a long time,

939
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't really that wasn't really something I looked at

940
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: as a goal, you know what I'm saying. I definitely

941
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: want to have kids for show. I definitely want to

942
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: have children, but I was cool with having kids without

943
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: the marriage. That was very fine with that. Um. But

944
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, in conversations that I've had with people who

945
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: are either married or um have grown up with parents

946
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: that are married, it kind of changed my perspective a

947
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: little bit in the sense that like, yeah, it can

948
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of benefit to that, you know

949
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: what I mean. Um, So you know, I'm you know,

950
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little older now, so it's like, yeah,

951
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: that's that's that's I'm definitely dating with intention, Like you know,

952
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: if i'm if if i'm if I'm seeing you, like

953
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: if if we get together, if I you know, if

954
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: you become my girlfriend, I'm definitely looking at you as

955
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: somebody who, um, I see potentially being a wife. Absolutely so.

956
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: All right, we have this segment on our show called

957
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: Dumbing Story or SIMP series. Right, easy way to say this,

958
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: and it's a time when people share a time where

959
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: they got played by the opposite sex. Can you think

960
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: of a time where a chick like you was like,

961
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: damn had to do it like that. You don't stemmed

962
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: once or twice. Let us know everybody has and don't

963
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: tell us no where I got played. Yeah, um, let

964
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: me see, don't talk about the ninth grade. Every time

965
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: I nigga on here, they'd be like, yeah, when I

966
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: was because girl stole my candy, you know, like NY

967
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: could tell us some real ship. Damn, Like you said,

968
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: they'll be trying to put that ship so far back

969
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: far in the back of their mind. Remember, oh, you

970
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: flew somebody out and then they left with your homies.

971
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: She actually for money, but it was really fun to

972
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: get something. They got a jail. I would say, like, um,

973
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: I mean the only thing I could think right now

974
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: is there was a young lady I was This was

975
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Um, this was like right

976
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: before I started from the root tank. Actually, there was

977
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: this young lady I was very interested in. Um, and

978
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: I thought we was on a good accord, but she

979
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: kind of she kind of ghosted me basically, Um, I

980
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: was on my way to the airport. We're on facetimepor

981
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: keep oh like hit me when you you know, when

982
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: you land and all that. I hit her up when

983
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: I land. Nothing, called her again. Nothing. She goes to me.

984
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: She knows who she is too, because I've seen a

985
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: sense you saw her. According to her, I stopped talking

986
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: to her. You know, like that's another thing you'll like

987
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: to do. You'll like to do it a little switcher. Ya. No,

988
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: I did it. She didn't go to me like it

989
01:00:54,640 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: ain't a ghost. Okay, I didn't go you know, I'm

990
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: gonna use I'm gonna use that one to let me

991
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: use that one. Oh no, we don't count we are. Sayah,

992
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use that one to you said it, Yeah,

993
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: you said because y'all, yeah, y'all be on some other

994
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: ship and women y'all like we don't we uh, we

995
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: probably do like a mutual ghost. Oftentimes either were friends

996
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: on your ass or we don't talk to you no more.

997
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: But men they're gonna snatch you first then then disappear,

998
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: or friends on you. I don't do that no more,

999
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't do that. That was the That was the old.

1000
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I'm saying now if I know

1001
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: it's not going on, what or if I know, like, yeah,

1002
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling that this ain't gonna work, I don't

1003
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: even want to do you tell her though? Are you

1004
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: just ghost But if we didn't smash, it s not ghosting? Right,

1005
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: it's not so she didn't she didn't go what if?

1006
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: But what if you've been talking for a couple of months?

1007
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: Are you still in smash? But like the report has

1008
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: been there and you stopped talking just out of that Definitely,

1009
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: as long as I didn't give my coochie up, I

1010
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: do not feel like I got Really you can you

1011
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: can have feelings for somebody without having sex sex. Yeah,

1012
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: that's what I feel like. Ultimate see for me the

1013
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: mindset I'm in that I mean obviously, like, if there's

1014
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: somebody who like this is the relationship we have where

1015
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, we just funking around and ship. If that's

1016
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: the case, that's the case. But for me, if I'm interested,

1017
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: if I'm really interested in somebody, oh, I need to

1018
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: get to know you first. I need to see what's

1019
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: good because yo, sex is always better when you like

1020
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: the person right or for it or for it even

1021
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: if like oh, they don't do it, like, it's still

1022
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: popping because you like the person. You know what I'm saying,

1023
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: Like this is somebody like I like to cuddle. I

1024
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: wanna I want to I want to cuddle left, I wanna.

1025
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, If I'm not feeling you like that,

1026
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna see a different side of me, you know

1027
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, um, if you develop a relationship

1028
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: with somebody, getting to know somebody, you know what I'm saying,

1029
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you stopped talking, that's

1030
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: still a ghost You still ghosted. We didn't have sex,

1031
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: but there's intimacy there. Like, right, did what does she

1032
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: say when you sorry? She said, I stopped talking? She

1033
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:41,479
Speaker 1: just basically bullshit? Yeah, and then I then I saw

1034
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: her I with her fucking boyfriend and ship. I said,

1035
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: that's your man. Alright, cool, you know what I'm saying.

1036
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: Everything happens for a reason. Everything happens for a reason, Marcus,

1037
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: Tell everybody where they can find you, tell them about

1038
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: this show where they can watch it. All that good stuff.

1039
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: What you got coming up next? Everything. So um, think

1040
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: of social media wise, you can find me on uh

1041
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: at at distant loving on Instagram is one word um.

1042
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: That's also my um my tag on Twitter too, it's

1043
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: at distant loving. Um. What I got coming up next?

1044
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm actually writing a movie right now. I'm a co

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Speaker 1: writer on the film, so that's kind of like yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of been my main focus right now.

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Speaker 1: Woo Tank is coming out February fifteen. Make sure you're

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Speaker 1: tuned into that on Hulu. Season three, our final season,

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Speaker 1: by the way, perfect for that that. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, And we dropped and we drop. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: drop three episodes from when it comes episodes to watch.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Marcus for join us. You give

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Speaker 1: us a really good interview. Thank you, Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me. All Right, we're coming send us information for

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Speaker 1: your party because I'm turning up. Yeah, I'm gonna send it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna send it. It's a Nigeria spin find me

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Speaker 1: a little something something out there time the Mail Attractive Dance.

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