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Speaker 3: This is the Idaho Massacre, a production of KAT Studios

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Speaker 3: and iHeartRadio, Season three, Episode three, The Unsealed Files. I'm

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Speaker 3: Courtney Armstrong, a producer at KAT Studios with Stephanie Leideger

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Speaker 3: Here's forensic expert Joseph Scott Morgan with our producer Alison Bankston.

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Speaker 4: When you were going through these documents, what stood out

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Speaker 1: Of brutality for me because it sounds horribly naive, but

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Speaker 4: Right absolutely, Joseph, Can you tell us you know about

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Speaker 1: After this brutality has been exacted on Xanna and they're

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Speaker 3: a moment. After Dylan Mortensen came face to face with

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Speaker 5: But Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Hunter really kept Ethan's dignity intact, do you know what

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Speaker 4: That's so true. He really truly is such a hero.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, when Hunter arrives around eleven am, he said

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Speaker 4: Yes, at around nine am, his phone was pinging in

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Speaker 4: Yes, as a reminder, Brian Coburger, he took a selfie

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Speaker 2: Cleepier, I know, and it's so terrifying to think that

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