Speaker 1: Kutbooms.
Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
Speaker 2: of the Old Republic, a sol fastion of fairness. He
Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the
Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: The clearing House of Hot takes break free for something special.
Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now.
Speaker 3: It is the Fifth Hour with Ben Mahler and Danny
Speaker 3: g Radio Plausibly live from the big event, the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl horse racing, the Breeders Cup.
Speaker 4: This is cool, Danny, this is awesome. I love the vibe.
Speaker 4: I've been walking around here. It's been nuts.
Speaker 5: You're either gonna hear horse fans jumping up and down
Speaker 5: screaming about the horse that they have on the monitors there,
Speaker 5: or Hetros from Petros and money out on his microphone.
Speaker 3: If you could see this, it's like a Saturday Night
Speaker 3: Live episode because when we're on one table, the next
Speaker 3: table is Pedros and Bill Plashky, and then Rob Parker's
Speaker 3: on the other side.
Speaker 4: We're all lined up, but joining us. This guy is
Speaker 4: the Guru.
Speaker 3: Of Gurus, the connoisseur of horse racing as a pundit
Speaker 3: on television. Todd Trump joins us here live on tape,
Speaker 3: of course, from the amazing Breeders Cup, the fortieth edition
Speaker 3: of the Breeders Cup.
Speaker 4: Todd welcome, It's great to see you.
Speaker 1: It's great to be with you, Ben and Danny and
Speaker 1: I have to say, you know, when you talk about venues, yes,
Speaker 1: this is one of the most amazing racetracks in the world.
Speaker 1: But let's be honest, it's one of the best sporting
Speaker 1: venues we have in America when you look at iconic
Speaker 1: places that sporting events take place. Just in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: we all Revere, Dodger Stadium and Chavez Ravine and it'll
Speaker 1: be here sixty years from and I will still be
Speaker 1: loving it. Sam Anita is in that category. It's a
Speaker 1: treasured facility for any sport. So it's no surprise with
Speaker 1: a facility like this, they're hosting the Breeders Cup for
Speaker 1: a record eleventh time. I just I love it here.
Speaker 1: I sit in the grand stand in those San Gabriel
Speaker 1: mount have been there for centuries. But every day it's
Speaker 1: a different view. One day it's clear, one day it's
Speaker 1: smoggy one day, it's cloudy, one day it's snowing. Yea,
Speaker 1: there is no other racetrack in the world that has
Speaker 1: that view. Santa Neita is a treasure. So even if
Speaker 1: you're a casual sports fan and you didn't get to
Speaker 1: the Breeders Cut, you got to come out here and
Speaker 1: experience today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing and I love my favorite thing. Actually,
Speaker 3: I used to live right in here here, so I
Speaker 3: used to come here a lot. I moved a little
Speaker 3: further away, but I love coming out here, and today
Speaker 3: I was walking around the same thing. You see some
Speaker 3: guys who've got the you know, they've got the racing
Speaker 3: forms in front of them. They're henty cap and every
Speaker 3: race there's other people that's just kind of you know, drinking,
Speaker 3: having a good time. There's women all dressed up to
Speaker 3: the nines. It's just a crazy, wild scene.
Speaker 1: No matter how many times I've come here, I discover
Speaker 1: part of the building I didn't know exist. There's bathrooms.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've been touched. It's nineteen fifty six,
Speaker 1: like going back in a time machine. But you talk
Speaker 1: about those guys with the racing forms, the railbirds who've
Speaker 1: been here for years and years and years. So one
Speaker 1: of the things that happens. So you have a live
Speaker 1: day of racing at sant Anita, and let's say you've
Speaker 1: had a bad day. It's like, I still want the
Speaker 1: act to have a place called the paddock Room. So
Speaker 1: it's the lowest of the building and it's all the
Speaker 1: hardcore people. I'm trying to make a comeback on the day.
Speaker 1: And they affectionately call the paddock room the dungeon. So
Speaker 1: you go underneath the grand stand here. I just I
Speaker 1: love every part of it, even the dungeon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great, great day people watching. You're into that too.
Speaker 4: I mean the horse racing is great too, But in.
Speaker 3: Between it, I like, I think we we talked earlier
Speaker 3: this week day about the fact that horse racing is
Speaker 3: it's almost you know, it was a very popular sport
Speaker 3: early in America. Now the way people live their lives
Speaker 3: now where you have short attention spans, but you have
Speaker 3: you have a lot of time between races where you
Speaker 3: can you know, you can socialize, ye can put your
Speaker 3: bed in and so it's really cool.
Speaker 6: One thing I noticed when I walked in.
Speaker 5: You see folks that are just dressed with shorts and
Speaker 5: flip flops and T shirts. And then you see folks
Speaker 5: that are dressed to the nines and look like, you know,
Speaker 5: they pulled up in a Bentley with a.
Speaker 6: Butler and crazy. The mix of people, that's what I.
Speaker 1: Love about it. You can make a day at the
Speaker 1: race is whatever you want it to be. You know,
Speaker 1: the race that everybody you know is the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 1: It's phenomenal to watch how people Your imagination is the
Speaker 1: only thing that holds you back when it comes to
Speaker 1: how you want to dress and go out to the races.
Speaker 1: You can be casual, you can dress up. I think
Speaker 1: the worst moniker ever given to the sport of horse
Speaker 1: racing was the sport of kings Like I hate when
Speaker 1: people use that moniker because it's the sport for everyone.
Speaker 1: It really is, and it's truly accessible. Yes, Mike Ropoli
Speaker 1: just won the previous race year. He had not one,
Speaker 1: but two one billion dollar ideas that he sold and
Speaker 1: he's pretty well off, but he is very accessible. And
Speaker 1: I look at the diversity in our sport. It's it's
Speaker 1: more diverse than any other sport and ahead of time.
Speaker 1: But the fact that you could have a billionaire Mike
Speaker 1: like Mike Ropoli, and then the stable hands and Todd
Speaker 1: Pletcher's operation who maybe are just getting started and not
Speaker 1: making a lot of money and now get to be
Speaker 1: on this big stage for the Breeders' Cup. There's so
Speaker 1: much I love about racing on a daily basis, but
Speaker 1: it is not the sportive kings. It's a sport that
Speaker 1: is accessible to everyone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also I think it's important for those it
Speaker 3: might be listening if you're listening to the podcast, or
Speaker 3: maybe you're not a hardcore horse racing personally.
Speaker 4: When I was growing up, it was always the Triple
Speaker 4: Crown races. That was it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I've talked to people over the years thought
Speaker 3: about the Breeders' Cup and for people in the business,
Speaker 3: like this is the this is the main event. If
Speaker 3: you're in the industry, explain like why this is so important.
Speaker 1: Because the Triple Crown only highlights one division and it's
Speaker 1: the three year olds. You can only run in the
Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby as a three year old. That's why winning
Speaker 1: the Triple Crown is truly one of the hardest things
Speaker 1: in sports because you only get one season. You can't
Speaker 1: have anything go wrong. You only get five weeks to
Speaker 1: run those three races, and so much can happen along
Speaker 1: the way. So the Triple Crown has always been about
Speaker 1: three year olds. The Breeders Cup brings the best of
Speaker 1: all horses together. So the Long Gene Breeders' Cup Classic
Speaker 1: tomorrow will be three year olds that you saw in
Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby Trail now taking on older horses who
Speaker 1: you maybe didn't watch throughout the course of the year.
Speaker 1: On that card, you'll see some of the best turf
Speaker 1: horses going a mile and a half, so horses you're
Speaker 1: run on grass. You'll see some of the best sprinters
Speaker 1: in the world. So the Breeders Cup has never been
Speaker 1: defined by one age category or one distance. These are
Speaker 1: many disciplines and their horses from all over the world.
Speaker 1: They're not just the best in the United States. They're
Speaker 1: bringing over the best from Ireland, the best from England,
Speaker 1: the best from France, and this year, once again the
Speaker 1: best from Japan in the Breeders Cup. Just a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago at Del Mar it was a breakthrough
Speaker 1: moment for Japanese racing. Japanese racing has always been great,
Speaker 1: but when they would ship out like one of their
Speaker 1: best horses, Deep Impacked. They so badly wanted to win
Speaker 1: the biggest racing Europe, the pre to Lark Day Triomphs,
Speaker 1: and he tanked on the stage that they wanted to win.
Speaker 1: It was a huge blow to their industry. I was
Speaker 1: there when he came back to his home course at Tokyo,
Speaker 1: and I've never seen anything like it. Deep Impact one
Speaker 1: of the best horses I've ever seen. That was one
Speaker 1: of the great moments his comeback race. But this industry,
Speaker 1: the Japanese racing industry, has always been poised to go
Speaker 1: around the world and win, and now they're doing it.
Speaker 1: USh Pitzsoro took the Dubai World Cup earlier this year,
Speaker 1: one of the richest races in the world, and he's
Speaker 1: got to be one of the favorites in the Long
Speaker 1: Jean Breeders Cup Classic, if not the favorite. It was
Speaker 1: unfathomable when you had the first Breeders Cup at Hollywood
Speaker 1: Park which is now the Rams and Chargers Locker Room,
Speaker 1: that here we would be forty editions later and the
Speaker 1: favorite for the Long Jean Breeders Cup Classic would be
Speaker 1: a Japanese champion. Pretty amazing.
Speaker 4: It's pretty cool. Go full circle and we're hanging out
Speaker 4: here at the Breeders Cup.
Speaker 3: And again, by the way we are, it's underway and
Speaker 3: if you're able to make it. I know this podcast
Speaker 3: obviously people listening all over the country in the world,
Speaker 3: but if you're in southern California or you're planning on
Speaker 3: being in Southern Shore, yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 4: I'm going to try to come back out.
Speaker 5: If we're allowed, Nanny, I'm gonna try to say, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, if our backstage passes there are good for tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was going to get into radio row.
Speaker 1: That's how good. I almost didn't make this.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But we are here and if you want to get tickets,
Speaker 3: there are some left. It's just amazing the racing, but
Speaker 3: the people watching, the vibe if you've never been to
Speaker 3: a race, and what a great first race to go to,
Speaker 3: the big for those in the business here the Breeders Cup.
Speaker 3: So if you want tickets, you can get tickets. Obviously
Speaker 3: it is on Saturday here, so go to Breeders Cup dot.
Speaker 4: Com and the World Championship Britis Cup World Championships that
Speaker 4: are going on here.
Speaker 5: Now we'll get back to racing of course, but I
Speaker 5: know that you are a Minnesota Vikings fan.
Speaker 1: Oh boss by yes, by the way, thanks for the
Speaker 1: purple uncover to your table there.
Speaker 4: We want to make you comfortable. Can you play quarterback?
Speaker 6: But I'm sorry about Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: But we got a rocket scientist. Now, I didn't know
Speaker 1: that Dops was an actual rocket scientist. Yeah, and this
Speaker 1: is long suffering. And my my cousin said this to
Speaker 1: me because he's from Minnesota. He's like a brother to me.
Speaker 1: So we followed the Vikings all our lives. He's like,
Speaker 1: why couldn't our parents given us a different team to follow?
Speaker 1: I mean it is I cannot begin to describe the
Speaker 1: pain from Harry Anderson's first missed field goal of the
Speaker 1: year in the NFC Championship. And I know we would
Speaker 1: have absolutely beat the Broncos that year with Randy Moss
Speaker 1: and that offense. They could not have stopped us. And
Speaker 1: then about two thousand and nine, I'm watching this gross
Speaker 1: overtime defeat to the New Orleans Saints. Oh, bounty gate
Speaker 1: came out of that. Then, of course they changed the
Speaker 1: overtime rules, which was too late for the Vikings. After that,
Speaker 1: and I'm walking for an hour and a half on
Speaker 1: this bike path near my house, just by myself, and it.
Speaker 6: Just occurred to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, they don't even know exist, Like why don't
Speaker 1: I care so much about this too? Whether they win
Speaker 1: or lose, they don't know I'm here.
Speaker 5: But yes, LIKEELIONGS, we deal with our teams too every
Speaker 5: week every weekend. And one quick other side note before
Speaker 5: we get back to the horse racing. A vet of TVG, Yeah,
Speaker 5: which is awesome. And you had a famous moment with
Speaker 5: Jerry the King Lawler.
Speaker 1: I treasure the most look I've been at It was TVG.
Speaker 1: Now it's FanDuel TV. So I've been at this network
Speaker 1: for twenty four years, seeing had done a lot of things,
Speaker 1: been to some fantastic races and YadA winning the Breeders
Speaker 1: Cup Classic here in two thousand and nine is my
Speaker 1: favorite racing moment. But resting Jerry the King Law for
Speaker 1: my broadcasting career is kind of weird. Is my highlight.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so how that happen?
Speaker 1: We're about four years into the network. Nobody knows who
Speaker 1: we are. The only way you can see us is
Speaker 1: on the sea band satellite dishes. You know, they're the
Speaker 1: size of a jacuzzie, so no one knew who we were.
Speaker 1: So we're always trying to get attention, and I was
Speaker 1: the guy who wanted to go out and get attention.
Speaker 1: So one night at sam Houston Racecourse down in Texas,
Speaker 1: a friend of my, Martha Claus and she's the publicity director,
Speaker 1: the general manager there would hold wrestling matches on Friday
Speaker 1: night after the races. So to promote the matches, she'd
Speaker 1: bring out some of the key wrestlers out into the
Speaker 1: Winter Circle and after a race, they'd build up the
Speaker 1: crowd stick around later wrestling. So before she interviews Jerry
Speaker 1: the King Lawler, she goes, hey, and she says this off, Mike,
Speaker 1: could you work in my friend Todd Shrump in California.
Speaker 1: He's like, no problem. So she goes to ask him
Speaker 1: a question and goes, now, there's this guy in California.
Speaker 1: His name is Todd Truppy. If he grabs the mic
Speaker 1: from her and he goes, you, I mean, Todd, schmuck.
Speaker 1: Those in this whole great thing. And he ends by saying,
Speaker 1: and hey, schmuck, if you ever want to leave Hollywood
Speaker 1: and come to Texas, I'll restue you anytime anywhere So
Speaker 1: I get a call at home from the people who
Speaker 1: are watching the broadcast in our studio who are working
Speaker 1: that night, and they said, can you come on air?
Speaker 1: I'm like why, because Jerry the King Waller just challenge
Speaker 1: you to a wrestling match. I'm like what, So they
Speaker 1: catch me up on the whole thing. I go on air,
Speaker 1: I fire back next thing, I know this thing's happening.
Speaker 1: So we do like a month of promotion leading up
Speaker 1: to it. My boss at the time, he goes to
Speaker 1: his old high school coach, gets me the high school
Speaker 1: wrestling outfit, and so I'm wearing the onesie, you know,
Speaker 1: the yeah for wrestling, the singlet, and then I'm wearing
Speaker 1: the thing that goes over your ear so you don't
Speaker 1: get call aflower ear. We do all these promos and
Speaker 1: then about a week before the match, one of our
Speaker 1: bosses calls me in and he says, I need you
Speaker 1: to sign something like what are you talking about? He
Speaker 1: goes it basically releases us from anything if you get hurt.
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, I'm doing this for you, guys.
Speaker 4: Now are you are you? Are you in shape at
Speaker 4: the time better shape than I am? No?
Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm still not a world class app Okay,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. So anyway we somehow get past that.
Speaker 1: So all these obstacles go down to Texas. They have
Speaker 1: a limo waiting for me. It takes me to the track.
Speaker 1: They've got the Hooter girls waiting out in front of
Speaker 1: the playfast. It's incredible. And they take me right to
Speaker 1: the winner circle to promote the match, and Jerry the
Speaker 1: King is waiting there. Martha Clauson's in between. She lets
Speaker 1: me have the mic first, and I start making fun
Speaker 1: of his age, my grandpa, my great grandpa, watch you
Speaker 1: and I can't wait, and I started naming all the
Speaker 1: time zones. So if you're in the Pacific time zone,
Speaker 1: Central Mountain time Eastern, tune in and watch this match. Whatever.
Speaker 1: So now it's his turn, and he grabs the mic
Speaker 1: and he's and he takes his finger and he goes,
Speaker 1: you got pretty nice teeth for a beaver. And then
Speaker 1: he takes his finger and he and he pokes it
Speaker 1: in my chest and and it must have backed me
Speaker 1: up like six inches. And I looked at our producer
Speaker 1: and I go, this is real, Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've never wrestled in my life. This is real, and
Speaker 1: so he goes, you better stop you're talking unless you
Speaker 1: want to see those chicklets rolling around on the ground.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I eventually wrestled him that night. He put
Speaker 1: me in the pile driver. I survived the pile driver,
Speaker 1: barely got out of the match. And the way I
Speaker 1: look at it is Andy Kaufman wrestled Jerry the King Lawler,
Speaker 1: the man in the So many people have been in
Speaker 1: the ring with Jerry the King Lawler, and I didn't
Speaker 1: realize how big his legend was until I wrestled him.
Speaker 1: And now everywhere I go people talk about it. Are
Speaker 1: fans of the King. And that night that was kind
Speaker 1: of the cool part. When I walked out, the crowd
Speaker 1: was two thousand percent lollar. They just wanted to see
Speaker 1: me absolutely destroyed, and they got what they want. They
Speaker 1: started chat And now I think they don't allow the
Speaker 1: pile driver.
Speaker 4: Oh probably not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's illegal now, but that's crazy. When I was growing,
Speaker 3: I grew I love wrestling. So Jerry Lawler the name,
Speaker 3: Oh gee, yeah, back back in the day. But we
Speaker 3: should probably get back to the races. Oh think a
Speaker 3: boss is gonna punch us and we don't get back
Speaker 3: to the race, but no, I'm excited, so I was
Speaker 3: told not to.
Speaker 4: We're doing this on Friday.
Speaker 3: Obviously, we want to promote what's going up on Saturday
Speaker 3: because that's when people can come out and hang out.
Speaker 3: But today I was told the juvenile races, that's like
Speaker 3: to compare it to another sport, like the Future Stars.
Speaker 4: Like, yes, the horses today.
Speaker 1: They all start weekend, like we'll see nex rookies next
Speaker 1: Like when I watched the Kentucky Derby next year and
Speaker 1: all that horses that race today, you could see them
Speaker 1: next year.
Speaker 4: What can you give me some names here? Today?
Speaker 1: Well, Fierceness ran a really good race and took the
Speaker 1: signature race, the race that was supposed to from the
Speaker 1: beginning of the Breeders Cup. Because it's changed a lot.
Speaker 1: It used to not be two days. It's not two days.
Speaker 1: So they moved the two year olds the youngest horses
Speaker 1: to the Friday with the Future Stars Friday, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: But the signature race was always the fan Dual Breeders
Speaker 1: Cup Juvenile, so that was two year old colts who
Speaker 1: next year could ask three year olds get on the
Speaker 1: road to the Kentucky Derby and all it's history. Only
Speaker 1: two horses have gone from winning that race to go
Speaker 1: on I winning the Kentucky Derby and their streets scentse
Speaker 1: and Niquist. I just think some of it is, you know,
Speaker 1: our sport has changed, and it seems like horses who
Speaker 1: get started later in their career the beginning of the
Speaker 1: three year old season, some sometimes have an advantage because
Speaker 1: they're fresh horses. But I think the field that ran
Speaker 1: this year has enough depth. The winner, Fierceness, owned by Micropoli,
Speaker 1: trained by Todd Pletcher, will be put on the fast track,
Speaker 1: probably through the Florida Derby and his three year old
Speaker 1: season to get to the Kentucky Derby. So yeah, when
Speaker 1: they say future stars Friday, it's not just a marketing phrase.
Speaker 1: A lot of these horses are going to go on
Speaker 1: and do great things next year.
Speaker 4: Very very cool.
Speaker 3: And as far as the Saturday, everyone knows the main event,
Speaker 3: but there's races all day here and so if you're
Speaker 3: play if something's coming, I meanming out what what what do.
Speaker 4: We need to know about? Like the other than the
Speaker 4: main we'll get to the main event, but other than.
Speaker 1: The main would you think less of me if I
Speaker 1: told you that in My whole day depended on what
Speaker 1: happened at Aqueduct today.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 3: I love that you're my kind of guy, and I
Speaker 3: asked thousands of miles away.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. So today, for an example, they
Speaker 1: had ten races. Five of them were Breeders Cup races,
Speaker 1: championship races. Yeah, but the first Breeders Cup race was
Speaker 1: until the fifth. So I asked my colleague Dave Weaver,
Speaker 1: have you ever been broke before we got to the winds? Yeah,
Speaker 1: lots of times. So tomorrow, the first race is at
Speaker 1: ten ten am local time. They've got twelve races overall,
Speaker 1: but nine of them out of the twelve are Breeders
Speaker 1: Cup championship races. Tomorrow is going to be wild. You
Speaker 1: made a great analogy calling at the Super Bowl, but
Speaker 1: essentially with fourteen championship races, it's fourteen super Bowls in
Speaker 1: two days. Awesome, And tomorrow's the biggest day by far.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I was leading up to the main event
Speaker 3: and I saw Bob Baffert's name is yeah, the favorite.
Speaker 4: How is now?
Speaker 3: He's like I've interviewed Bob a few times over the years,
Speaker 3: but in the business, you know, you talked to some
Speaker 3: peopleho are casual as all you know, he's like kind
Speaker 3: of a villainous type guy.
Speaker 1: Is he's the New York Yankees. Yeah, always have enough money.
Speaker 1: They can out spend everybody, but they don't always win.
Speaker 1: And that just happened in the Breeders Cup Juvenile today.
Speaker 1: He had three horses, big purchase prices. He's got a
Speaker 1: horse running the last race today. That is, it's not
Speaker 1: a stakes race. That was purchased for three point two
Speaker 1: million dollars. Three point two million dollars and the horse
Speaker 1: is not running in a stakes race. So you know,
Speaker 1: just because you spend a lot of money, it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you're going to get a winner at the top level.
Speaker 1: But Baffert's barn, you go down the shed row, one
Speaker 1: side of his barn is more expensive than someone's three barns.
Speaker 3: So I assume because of his reputation, Like if you're like,
Speaker 3: you know, king of Dubai or the Middle East, you
Speaker 3: you contact.
Speaker 4: Is that how it normally.
Speaker 3: Works because he's the top level guy and one of.
Speaker 1: The most powerful stables in the world is Godolphin and
Speaker 1: it essentially is the ruler of Dubai. Shik Muhammad al Maktoum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they win races all over the world. They give
Speaker 1: a lot to the sport, and he loves it tremendously.
Speaker 1: He's don't never want to Kentucky Derby believe he's really
Speaker 1: really early tried. But they host the Dubai World Cup,
Speaker 1: one of the richest races in the world. Bob Bafford
Speaker 1: trains for them a little bit, but not a lot.
Speaker 1: Brad Cox trains for them more So. It's kind of
Speaker 1: interesting to see who Bob Baffert picks up. As far
Speaker 1: as clients, it's it's not always who you would think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 3: And then as far as the main the main events events,
Speaker 3: do you give out winners or you want to lead.
Speaker 4: Us in a direction here?
Speaker 1: I well, I you know, I you picked the twenty
Speaker 1: eight to one earlier down the hill and the Senator
Speaker 1: Ken Maddie the eighth. Yeah, that was very good pick,
Speaker 1: very good pick.
Speaker 4: Who'd you pick in the main of min Dan?
Speaker 5: It was your you know, because of his voice and
Speaker 5: guitar playing, and I like Clapton doesn't like.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. The ideas that go faster and
Speaker 1: you're betting slowhand, So.
Speaker 5: Yeah, lay down Sally, but don't lay down.
Speaker 6: In the main event.
Speaker 3: I think I bet, I bet, I like the name
Speaker 3: and missed the cut. I think it was a yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: Thirty to one. I mean, but it's how much do
Speaker 4: you how much stock? You're in this all the time?
Speaker 3: Like I see thirty one, that's like the long I
Speaker 3: think the longest odds and the main main race I
Speaker 3: believe is that does that matter?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 1: No, the horses don't know the ore.
Speaker 4: That's good point, that's a fair point.
Speaker 1: Here's what I Here's what I tell the people who
Speaker 1: are coming out to the racetrack. I've been in the
Speaker 1: game thirty five years. I'm still learning, you know. I
Speaker 1: look at the past performances and I can find my
Speaker 1: way around, and I've got my you know, I've got
Speaker 1: certain things I look for, and yeah, I have an
Speaker 1: advantage over a person who maybe only comes out on weekends.
Speaker 1: But at some point, whatever your system is, it's going
Speaker 1: to work. So everybody can pick winners. That is not
Speaker 1: that is not the challenge of this game. Whether you're
Speaker 1: picking a name, whether you're picking a price, the question
Speaker 1: is how did you play that horse? Because that ultimately
Speaker 1: is what this game comes down to did you play win,
Speaker 1: play show, did you play exact? Did you play a try?
Speaker 1: Did you play a super effector did you play a
Speaker 1: super high five? Did you bet the double? Did you
Speaker 1: play a pick three? Did you play a pick four?
Speaker 1: Did you play a pick five? Did you play a
Speaker 1: pick six? There are a multitude of options with every race.
Speaker 1: Making the correct wager is more important than picking winners.
Speaker 4: So it's also money money man. Yeah, so that says
Speaker 4: you were referending there, and.
Speaker 1: That's that's a pretty straightforward thing. When I first got involved,
Speaker 1: a guy said this to me. It was a long
Speaker 1: time racetracker, and he was right, If it hurts for
Speaker 1: more than thirty seconds, you bet too much. Now I've
Speaker 1: hurt for a long time, a lot more than thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: Many times. You keep teaching yourself over and over again.
Speaker 1: But you should always make it comfortably. You should always
Speaker 1: be responsible about it. But there are days where I'll
Speaker 1: look in the past performances and it's just popping off
Speaker 1: the page. Then there's other days I'll look and it
Speaker 1: looks like mandarin Chinese and I don't understand what I'm
Speaker 1: looking about looking at.
Speaker 3: I got a great story about that cause on the
Speaker 3: radio show, we used to have a football show on Sundays,
Speaker 3: we had Dick Stockton, the Old Scows. Yeah, and Dick
Speaker 3: was doing a it was a terrible game on Fox.
Speaker 3: You know, he's retired now, and we had to have
Speaker 3: him on to promote the game. And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 3: why would anyone watch? I mean, this is just a
Speaker 3: dreadful game. And Dick Stockton so smooth. He educated me.
Speaker 4: And I used to watch Dick's talking with a kid
Speaker 4: doing NBA games and he.
Speaker 3: Said, Ben, stat's tell you what has happened, not what's
Speaker 3: going to happen.
Speaker 1: That is right on. And by the way, there's going
Speaker 1: to be some type of chair that falls real quick.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard that.
Speaker 4: I heard that. That's sound effects there, but no, but
Speaker 4: it's true.
Speaker 1: That's the thing when you look, when you're looking at
Speaker 1: the racing for him, you're looking at what the horse
Speaker 1: did previously. You hope that they can run to that,
Speaker 1: but you have to figure it out and sometimes they do. Sometimes.
Speaker 1: The thing you got to remember, you're still vetting on
Speaker 1: animals running in a left handed circle, okay, and they
Speaker 1: have minds of their own.
Speaker 4: And as far as like the job. How big a
Speaker 4: difference does a jockey make? Are these guys all pretty
Speaker 4: similar or I'm.
Speaker 1: Not Okay, there are jockeys who are certainly the best
Speaker 1: of the craft, just like any other sport. But I've
Speaker 1: never believed a jockey can pick a horse up and
Speaker 1: cross the finish line with them. But a jockey can
Speaker 1: cost a horse. So I actually look for jockeys who
Speaker 1: are terrible and avoid them. Avoid.
Speaker 6: That's interesting.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so you kind of know you's around this
Speaker 3: all the time. So you know the guys that are good,
Speaker 3: guys who are how do you guys who are bad?
Speaker 4: They'll keep doing it.
Speaker 1: That's what I can't And here's the thing. I can
Speaker 1: never say that on air, but during commercial break, I'm like,
Speaker 1: why does this person keep doing this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And now he is back to Bafford. Is he like
Speaker 3: does he have a stable of jockeys that are like
Speaker 3: his guys?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, but here's here's and this was I thought
Speaker 1: one of the better lines. And this is actually a
Speaker 1: good life lesson as well. So Baffort right now in
Speaker 1: California has won Hernandez. He's the man. He's gotten a
Speaker 1: really like Ramon Vasquez, who's kind of a backup to him,
Speaker 1: and then he gave Kyle Freshat. He will always give
Speaker 1: a guy a chance, but at some point you get
Speaker 1: moved to the bench. So there was a story a
Speaker 1: number of years ago Kent Desormo had been the man
Speaker 1: with Bob Bafford. All of a sudden he wasn't getting
Speaker 1: mounts and he kind of complained openly to Mike Smith,
Speaker 1: who had also been sent to the bench. And then
Speaker 1: Mike Smith said to Ken Desromo, it's a lot better
Speaker 1: to be on the bench than on the team at all.
Speaker 1: And that's the way it is with the Bafford barn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he may sit you on the bench, but he wants
Speaker 1: to motivate you, like the great Bobby Knight talking about
Speaker 1: how that's the greatest motivator.
Speaker 4: See, you're title losing to Purdue.
Speaker 1: But with Baffort, he'll eventually bring you back. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he does have like a core of four or five.
Speaker 1: And then if you see someone who's riding really well,
Speaker 1: he's smart, he'll bring them in. Why would you use
Speaker 1: a hot jockey, you like a Flavi and Pratt. He
Speaker 1: didn't know Flavi and Pratt until this guy was an
Speaker 1: apprentice on the circuit started winning titles and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Flavy and Pratt was in the Bob Bafford Barn.
Speaker 1: So he's smart. He goes with the guys who are
Speaker 1: definitely on the rise.
Speaker 4: It's very interesting.
Speaker 3: And as far as the lineup on Saturday again, people
Speaker 3: want to get tickets, they can do that.
Speaker 4: There are some left and we do. If you're in
Speaker 4: the area, we'd love you gotta.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get back out here at Breeders' Cup, Doc.
Speaker 3: When does it? It begins in the morning, Southern California, n.
Speaker 1: Ten am and the first race. Okay, as far as
Speaker 1: price is tomorrow in the Dirt and Mile. One of
Speaker 1: the best stories. And I hate to play against the
Speaker 1: best story, but look, when you're gambling, you're not sending them.
Speaker 1: Cody's wish is coming back to defend his title and
Speaker 1: the big ass fans Breeders cut dirt mile. Last year,
Speaker 1: he got a perfect setup. He came from far back,
Speaker 1: they dueled on the lead. I don't see that tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I think Zozos gets a clear lead, might be able
Speaker 1: to win that race at a.
Speaker 4: Price A very good todd thank you. I know you're busy.
Speaker 4: You've got TV. You're more important on TV. I gotta
Speaker 4: tell you.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the crew. I want to hang
Speaker 1: out with the tracks, so we got to do it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we will.
Speaker 4: It's great, great to meet you man. Thank you very
Speaker 4: much time. I appreciate it. Have a great day there YouTube.
Speaker 4: You can see him on TV Todd. Yeah, yeah, watching
Speaker 4: him on Giving Ladies and Gentlemen.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Todd, thank you very much. So uh
Speaker 3: kind of put the ball on this. Then you've been
Speaker 3: out here all day, you've been experiencing the track. It's
Speaker 3: it's it's pretty cool.
Speaker 6: It was quite the scene.
Speaker 5: I I wouldn't have thought that the building was just huge,
Speaker 5: like there was. There were people riding around in golf
Speaker 5: carts and I'm like one of those. It's it's huge
Speaker 5: and they can fit eighty thousand people in here.
Speaker 4: Is that right? I didn't realize is that. I know,
Speaker 4: it's it's pretty massive.
Speaker 3: And there's a I drove down I think a Huntington
Speaker 3: coming in and the Derby restaurant's been there for forever.
Speaker 4: It's like an iconic Santa Anita like place and all that.
Speaker 6: But Katie is a nice town.
Speaker 4: Too.
Speaker 6: Yes, really nice areas around here.
Speaker 4: So I used to live not that far far away.
Speaker 6: All right, Well it got nicer when you left.
Speaker 4: Property values went off as soon as I.
Speaker 6: Left Valor family left.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, all right, So we'll get out on that.
Speaker 6: Oh plug. We talked about him being on TV.
Speaker 4: You need yeah, Benny versus the penny.
Speaker 3: Check that out. I will, and I'm gonna post some video.
Speaker 3: I finally learned. I sound like Mike North. I'm gonna grandpa.
Speaker 3: I finally learned how to get videos. So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: probably on Saturday. I'll post a little video clip on
Speaker 3: social media. So if you follow me on Facebook or
Speaker 3: on Instagram, I'll put a.
Speaker 4: Photo, little video, a little clip, a little taste. If
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: People have complained because they're in certainty they can't get
Speaker 3: the TV show.
Speaker 4: But we are on. It's distributed by NBC Universal.
Speaker 3: You can check that out, regional cable, NBC Sports Boston. Uh.
Speaker 4: There one more airing tonight and then yeah.
Speaker 6: Don't forget l A. I'll be watching after the Lakers
Speaker 6: beat the Orlando.
Speaker 5: Magic beyond late night primetime eleven PM on Saturday night.
Speaker 4: So check that's awesome. Yeah, I got we got what
Speaker 4: this is we're doing four is that we win this morning?
Speaker 6: Woh yeah.
Speaker 5: So we woke up early Friday morning and we did
Speaker 5: like a little intro for this. Yeah, and then we're
Speaker 5: gonna wake up early Saturday morning to do our Saturday
Speaker 5: podcast for the fifth hour, and then Sunday we have
Speaker 5: the mail bag. So busy weekend for us, and yeah,
Speaker 5: it was it was nice being away from the studio
Speaker 5: though to do this today. It was busy out here,
Speaker 5: but it was a lot of fun. It went so fast. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I know, it's it's fit great.
Speaker 3: So anyway, have a wonderful rest of your Friday and
Speaker 3: try to get out here.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna try to get back out for
Speaker 4: the main event of the Breeders.
Speaker 6: Let's see if these passes work again.
Speaker 3: I know, we gotta go, we gotta go check on
Speaker 3: all right, have a wonderful, wonderful Friday night.
Speaker 6: Thank you later, Skater gott a murder. I gotta go.