1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Kutbooms. 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: of the Old Republic, a sol fastion of fairness. He 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: Wow. 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: The clearing House of Hot takes break free for something special. 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now. 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: It is the Fifth Hour with Ben Mahler and Danny 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: g Radio Plausibly live from the big event, the Super 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: Bowl horse racing, the Breeders Cup. 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 4: This is cool, Danny, this is awesome. I love the vibe. 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 4: I've been walking around here. It's been nuts. 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 5: You're either gonna hear horse fans jumping up and down 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 5: screaming about the horse that they have on the monitors there, 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 5: or Hetros from Petros and money out on his microphone. 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: If you could see this, it's like a Saturday Night 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: Live episode because when we're on one table, the next 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: table is Pedros and Bill Plashky, and then Rob Parker's 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: on the other side. 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: We're all lined up, but joining us. This guy is 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: the Guru. 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: Of Gurus, the connoisseur of horse racing as a pundit 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: on television. Todd Trump joins us here live on tape, 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: of course, from the amazing Breeders Cup, the fortieth edition 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: of the Breeders Cup. 28 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: Todd welcome, It's great to see you. 29 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: It's great to be with you, Ben and Danny and 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: I have to say, you know, when you talk about venues, yes, 31 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: this is one of the most amazing racetracks in the world. 32 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: But let's be honest, it's one of the best sporting 33 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: venues we have in America when you look at iconic 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: places that sporting events take place. Just in Los Angeles, 35 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: we all Revere, Dodger Stadium and Chavez Ravine and it'll 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: be here sixty years from and I will still be 37 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: loving it. Sam Anita is in that category. It's a 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: treasured facility for any sport. So it's no surprise with 39 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: a facility like this, they're hosting the Breeders Cup for 40 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: a record eleventh time. I just I love it here. 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: I sit in the grand stand in those San Gabriel 42 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: mount have been there for centuries. But every day it's 43 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: a different view. One day it's clear, one day it's 44 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: smoggy one day, it's cloudy, one day it's snowing. Yea, 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: there is no other racetrack in the world that has 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: that view. Santa Neita is a treasure. So even if 47 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: you're a casual sports fan and you didn't get to 48 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: the Breeders Cut, you got to come out here and 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: experience today. 50 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing and I love my favorite thing. Actually, 51 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: I used to live right in here here, so I 52 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 3: used to come here a lot. I moved a little 53 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: further away, but I love coming out here, and today 54 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: I was walking around the same thing. You see some 55 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: guys who've got the you know, they've got the racing 56 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: forms in front of them. They're henty cap and every 57 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 3: race there's other people that's just kind of you know, drinking, 58 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: having a good time. There's women all dressed up to 59 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: the nines. It's just a crazy, wild scene. 60 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: No matter how many times I've come here, I discover 61 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: part of the building I didn't know exist. There's bathrooms. 62 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: I don't think I've been touched. It's nineteen fifty six, 63 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: like going back in a time machine. But you talk 64 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: about those guys with the racing forms, the railbirds who've 65 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: been here for years and years and years. So one 66 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: of the things that happens. So you have a live 67 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: day of racing at sant Anita, and let's say you've 68 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: had a bad day. It's like, I still want the 69 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: act to have a place called the paddock Room. So 70 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: it's the lowest of the building and it's all the 71 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: hardcore people. I'm trying to make a comeback on the day. 72 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: And they affectionately call the paddock room the dungeon. So 73 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: you go underneath the grand stand here. I just I 74 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: love every part of it, even the dungeon. 75 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great, great day people watching. You're into that too. 76 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: I mean the horse racing is great too, But in. 77 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: Between it, I like, I think we we talked earlier 78 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: this week day about the fact that horse racing is 79 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: it's almost you know, it was a very popular sport 80 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: early in America. Now the way people live their lives 81 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: now where you have short attention spans, but you have 82 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: you have a lot of time between races where you 83 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: can you know, you can socialize, ye can put your 84 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: bed in and so it's really cool. 85 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 6: One thing I noticed when I walked in. 86 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 5: You see folks that are just dressed with shorts and 87 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 5: flip flops and T shirts. And then you see folks 88 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 5: that are dressed to the nines and look like, you know, 89 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 5: they pulled up in a Bentley with a. 90 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 6: Butler and crazy. The mix of people, that's what I. 91 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: Love about it. You can make a day at the 92 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: race is whatever you want it to be. You know, 93 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: the race that everybody you know is the Kentucky Derby. 94 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: It's phenomenal to watch how people Your imagination is the 95 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: only thing that holds you back when it comes to 96 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: how you want to dress and go out to the races. 97 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: You can be casual, you can dress up. I think 98 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: the worst moniker ever given to the sport of horse 99 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: racing was the sport of kings Like I hate when 100 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: people use that moniker because it's the sport for everyone. 101 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: It really is, and it's truly accessible. Yes, Mike Ropoli 102 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: just won the previous race year. He had not one, 103 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: but two one billion dollar ideas that he sold and 104 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: he's pretty well off, but he is very accessible. And 105 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: I look at the diversity in our sport. It's it's 106 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: more diverse than any other sport and ahead of time. 107 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: But the fact that you could have a billionaire Mike 108 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: like Mike Ropoli, and then the stable hands and Todd 109 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: Pletcher's operation who maybe are just getting started and not 110 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: making a lot of money and now get to be 111 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: on this big stage for the Breeders' Cup. There's so 112 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: much I love about racing on a daily basis, but 113 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: it is not the sportive kings. It's a sport that 114 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: is accessible to everyone. 115 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also I think it's important for those it 116 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: might be listening if you're listening to the podcast, or 117 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: maybe you're not a hardcore horse racing personally. 118 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: When I was growing up, it was always the Triple 119 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: Crown races. That was it. 120 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I've talked to people over the years thought 121 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: about the Breeders' Cup and for people in the business, 122 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 3: like this is the this is the main event. If 123 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: you're in the industry, explain like why this is so important. 124 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: Because the Triple Crown only highlights one division and it's 125 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: the three year olds. You can only run in the 126 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby as a three year old. That's why winning 127 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: the Triple Crown is truly one of the hardest things 128 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: in sports because you only get one season. You can't 129 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: have anything go wrong. You only get five weeks to 130 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: run those three races, and so much can happen along 131 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: the way. So the Triple Crown has always been about 132 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: three year olds. The Breeders Cup brings the best of 133 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: all horses together. So the Long Gene Breeders' Cup Classic 134 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: tomorrow will be three year olds that you saw in 135 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby Trail now taking on older horses who 136 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: you maybe didn't watch throughout the course of the year. 137 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: On that card, you'll see some of the best turf 138 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: horses going a mile and a half, so horses you're 139 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: run on grass. You'll see some of the best sprinters 140 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: in the world. So the Breeders Cup has never been 141 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: defined by one age category or one distance. These are 142 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: many disciplines and their horses from all over the world. 143 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: They're not just the best in the United States. They're 144 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: bringing over the best from Ireland, the best from England, 145 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: the best from France, and this year, once again the 146 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: best from Japan in the Breeders Cup. Just a couple 147 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: of years ago at Del Mar it was a breakthrough 148 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: moment for Japanese racing. Japanese racing has always been great, 149 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: but when they would ship out like one of their 150 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: best horses, Deep Impacked. They so badly wanted to win 151 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: the biggest racing Europe, the pre to Lark Day Triomphs, 152 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: and he tanked on the stage that they wanted to win. 153 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: It was a huge blow to their industry. I was 154 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: there when he came back to his home course at Tokyo, 155 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: and I've never seen anything like it. Deep Impact one 156 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: of the best horses I've ever seen. That was one 157 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: of the great moments his comeback race. But this industry, 158 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: the Japanese racing industry, has always been poised to go 159 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: around the world and win, and now they're doing it. 160 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: USh Pitzsoro took the Dubai World Cup earlier this year, 161 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: one of the richest races in the world, and he's 162 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: got to be one of the favorites in the Long 163 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Jean Breeders Cup Classic, if not the favorite. It was 164 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: unfathomable when you had the first Breeders Cup at Hollywood 165 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: Park which is now the Rams and Chargers Locker Room, 166 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: that here we would be forty editions later and the 167 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: favorite for the Long Jean Breeders Cup Classic would be 168 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: a Japanese champion. Pretty amazing. 169 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: It's pretty cool. Go full circle and we're hanging out 170 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: here at the Breeders Cup. 171 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: And again, by the way we are, it's underway and 172 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: if you're able to make it. I know this podcast 173 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: obviously people listening all over the country in the world, 174 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: but if you're in southern California or you're planning on 175 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: being in Southern Shore, yeah, it's awesome. 176 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 4: I'm going to try to come back out. 177 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 5: If we're allowed, Nanny, I'm gonna try to say, yeah, 178 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 5: you know, if our backstage passes there are good for tomorrow. 179 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: I didn't think I was going to get into radio row. 180 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: That's how good. I almost didn't make this. 181 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 6: I don't know. 182 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: But we are here and if you want to get tickets, 183 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: there are some left. It's just amazing the racing, but 184 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: the people watching, the vibe if you've never been to 185 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: a race, and what a great first race to go to, 186 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: the big for those in the business here the Breeders Cup. 187 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: So if you want tickets, you can get tickets. Obviously 188 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: it is on Saturday here, so go to Breeders Cup dot. 189 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: Com and the World Championship Britis Cup World Championships that 190 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: are going on here. 191 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 5: Now we'll get back to racing of course, but I 192 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 5: know that you are a Minnesota Vikings fan. 193 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: Oh boss by yes, by the way, thanks for the 194 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: purple uncover to your table there. 195 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 4: We want to make you comfortable. Can you play quarterback? 196 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 6: But I'm sorry about Kirk Cousins. 197 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: But we got a rocket scientist. Now, I didn't know 198 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: that Dops was an actual rocket scientist. Yeah, and this 199 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: is long suffering. And my my cousin said this to 200 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: me because he's from Minnesota. He's like a brother to me. 201 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: So we followed the Vikings all our lives. He's like, 202 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: why couldn't our parents given us a different team to follow? 203 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: I mean it is I cannot begin to describe the 204 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: pain from Harry Anderson's first missed field goal of the 205 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: year in the NFC Championship. And I know we would 206 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: have absolutely beat the Broncos that year with Randy Moss 207 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: and that offense. They could not have stopped us. And 208 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: then about two thousand and nine, I'm watching this gross 209 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: overtime defeat to the New Orleans Saints. Oh, bounty gate 210 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: came out of that. Then, of course they changed the 211 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: overtime rules, which was too late for the Vikings. After that, 212 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: and I'm walking for an hour and a half on 213 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: this bike path near my house, just by myself, and it. 214 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 6: Just occurred to me. 215 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, they don't even know exist, Like why don't 216 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: I care so much about this too? Whether they win 217 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: or lose, they don't know I'm here. 218 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 5: But yes, LIKEELIONGS, we deal with our teams too every 219 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: week every weekend. And one quick other side note before 220 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 5: we get back to the horse racing. A vet of TVG, Yeah, 221 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 5: which is awesome. And you had a famous moment with 222 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 5: Jerry the King Lawler. 223 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: I treasure the most look I've been at It was TVG. 224 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: Now it's FanDuel TV. So I've been at this network 225 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: for twenty four years, seeing had done a lot of things, 226 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: been to some fantastic races and YadA winning the Breeders 227 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: Cup Classic here in two thousand and nine is my 228 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: favorite racing moment. But resting Jerry the King Law for 229 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: my broadcasting career is kind of weird. Is my highlight. 230 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, and so how that happen? 231 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: We're about four years into the network. Nobody knows who 232 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: we are. The only way you can see us is 233 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: on the sea band satellite dishes. You know, they're the 234 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: size of a jacuzzie, so no one knew who we were. 235 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: So we're always trying to get attention, and I was 236 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: the guy who wanted to go out and get attention. 237 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: So one night at sam Houston Racecourse down in Texas, 238 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: a friend of my, Martha Claus and she's the publicity director, 239 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: the general manager there would hold wrestling matches on Friday 240 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: night after the races. So to promote the matches, she'd 241 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: bring out some of the key wrestlers out into the 242 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: Winter Circle and after a race, they'd build up the 243 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: crowd stick around later wrestling. So before she interviews Jerry 244 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: the King Lawler, she goes, hey, and she says this off, Mike, 245 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,359 Speaker 1: could you work in my friend Todd Shrump in California. 246 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: He's like, no problem. So she goes to ask him 247 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: a question and goes, now, there's this guy in California. 248 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: His name is Todd Truppy. If he grabs the mic 249 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: from her and he goes, you, I mean, Todd, schmuck. 250 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: Those in this whole great thing. And he ends by saying, 251 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: and hey, schmuck, if you ever want to leave Hollywood 252 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: and come to Texas, I'll restue you anytime anywhere So 253 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: I get a call at home from the people who 254 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: are watching the broadcast in our studio who are working 255 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: that night, and they said, can you come on air? 256 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm like why, because Jerry the King Waller just challenge 257 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: you to a wrestling match. I'm like what, So they 258 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: catch me up on the whole thing. I go on air, 259 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: I fire back next thing, I know this thing's happening. 260 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: So we do like a month of promotion leading up 261 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: to it. My boss at the time, he goes to 262 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: his old high school coach, gets me the high school 263 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: wrestling outfit, and so I'm wearing the onesie, you know, 264 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: the yeah for wrestling, the singlet, and then I'm wearing 265 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: the thing that goes over your ear so you don't 266 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: get call aflower ear. We do all these promos and 267 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: then about a week before the match, one of our 268 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: bosses calls me in and he says, I need you 269 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: to sign something like what are you talking about? He 270 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: goes it basically releases us from anything if you get hurt. 271 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, I'm doing this for you, guys. 272 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: Now are you are you? Are you in shape at 273 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 4: the time better shape than I am? No? 274 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm still not a world class app Okay, 275 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: that's for sure. So anyway we somehow get past that. 276 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: So all these obstacles go down to Texas. They have 277 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: a limo waiting for me. It takes me to the track. 278 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: They've got the Hooter girls waiting out in front of 279 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: the playfast. It's incredible. And they take me right to 280 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: the winner circle to promote the match, and Jerry the 281 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: King is waiting there. Martha Clauson's in between. She lets 282 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: me have the mic first, and I start making fun 283 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: of his age, my grandpa, my great grandpa, watch you 284 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: and I can't wait, and I started naming all the 285 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: time zones. So if you're in the Pacific time zone, 286 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: Central Mountain time Eastern, tune in and watch this match. Whatever. 287 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: So now it's his turn, and he grabs the mic 288 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: and he's and he takes his finger and he goes, 289 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: you got pretty nice teeth for a beaver. And then 290 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: he takes his finger and he and he pokes it 291 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: in my chest and and it must have backed me 292 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: up like six inches. And I looked at our producer 293 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: and I go, this is real, Like I don't know, 294 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: I've never wrestled in my life. This is real, and 295 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: so he goes, you better stop you're talking unless you 296 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: want to see those chicklets rolling around on the ground. 297 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: So anyway, I eventually wrestled him that night. He put 298 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: me in the pile driver. I survived the pile driver, 299 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: barely got out of the match. And the way I 300 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: look at it is Andy Kaufman wrestled Jerry the King Lawler, 301 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: the man in the So many people have been in 302 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: the ring with Jerry the King Lawler, and I didn't 303 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: realize how big his legend was until I wrestled him. 304 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: And now everywhere I go people talk about it. Are 305 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: fans of the King. And that night that was kind 306 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: of the cool part. When I walked out, the crowd 307 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: was two thousand percent lollar. They just wanted to see 308 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: me absolutely destroyed, and they got what they want. They 309 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: started chat And now I think they don't allow the 310 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: pile driver. 311 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: Oh probably not. 312 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's illegal now, but that's crazy. When I was growing, 313 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: I grew I love wrestling. So Jerry Lawler the name, 314 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: Oh gee, yeah, back back in the day. But we 315 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: should probably get back to the races. Oh think a 316 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: boss is gonna punch us and we don't get back 317 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: to the race, but no, I'm excited, so I was 318 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 3: told not to. 319 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: We're doing this on Friday. 320 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: Obviously, we want to promote what's going up on Saturday 321 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: because that's when people can come out and hang out. 322 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: But today I was told the juvenile races, that's like 323 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: to compare it to another sport, like the Future Stars. 324 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: Like, yes, the horses today. 325 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: They all start weekend, like we'll see nex rookies next 326 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Like when I watched the Kentucky Derby next year and 327 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: all that horses that race today, you could see them 328 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: next year. 329 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: What can you give me some names here? Today? 330 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: Well, Fierceness ran a really good race and took the 331 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: signature race, the race that was supposed to from the 332 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: beginning of the Breeders Cup. Because it's changed a lot. 333 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: It used to not be two days. It's not two days. 334 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: So they moved the two year olds the youngest horses 335 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: to the Friday with the Future Stars Friday, as you mentioned, 336 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: But the signature race was always the fan Dual Breeders 337 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: Cup Juvenile, so that was two year old colts who 338 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: next year could ask three year olds get on the 339 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: road to the Kentucky Derby and all it's history. Only 340 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: two horses have gone from winning that race to go 341 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: on I winning the Kentucky Derby and their streets scentse 342 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: and Niquist. I just think some of it is, you know, 343 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: our sport has changed, and it seems like horses who 344 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: get started later in their career the beginning of the 345 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: three year old season, some sometimes have an advantage because 346 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: they're fresh horses. But I think the field that ran 347 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: this year has enough depth. The winner, Fierceness, owned by Micropoli, 348 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: trained by Todd Pletcher, will be put on the fast track, 349 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: probably through the Florida Derby and his three year old 350 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: season to get to the Kentucky Derby. So yeah, when 351 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: they say future stars Friday, it's not just a marketing phrase. 352 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: A lot of these horses are going to go on 353 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: and do great things next year. 354 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 4: Very very cool. 355 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: And as far as the Saturday, everyone knows the main event, 356 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: but there's races all day here and so if you're 357 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: play if something's coming, I meanming out what what what do. 358 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: We need to know about? Like the other than the 359 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: main we'll get to the main event, but other than. 360 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: The main would you think less of me if I 361 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: told you that in My whole day depended on what 362 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: happened at Aqueduct today. 363 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 4: There. 364 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: I love that you're my kind of guy, and I 365 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: asked thousands of miles away. 366 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: So that's the thing. So today, for an example, they 367 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: had ten races. Five of them were Breeders Cup races, 368 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: championship races. Yeah, but the first Breeders Cup race was 369 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: until the fifth. So I asked my colleague Dave Weaver, 370 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: have you ever been broke before we got to the winds? Yeah, 371 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: lots of times. So tomorrow, the first race is at 372 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: ten ten am local time. They've got twelve races overall, 373 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: but nine of them out of the twelve are Breeders 374 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: Cup championship races. Tomorrow is going to be wild. You 375 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: made a great analogy calling at the Super Bowl, but 376 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: essentially with fourteen championship races, it's fourteen super Bowls in 377 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: two days. Awesome, And tomorrow's the biggest day by far. 378 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 379 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 3: And then I was leading up to the main event 380 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: and I saw Bob Baffert's name is yeah, the favorite. 381 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 4: How is now? 382 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: He's like I've interviewed Bob a few times over the years, 383 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: but in the business, you know, you talked to some 384 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: peopleho are casual as all you know, he's like kind 385 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: of a villainous type guy. 386 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Is he's the New York Yankees. Yeah, always have enough money. 387 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: They can out spend everybody, but they don't always win. 388 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: And that just happened in the Breeders Cup Juvenile today. 389 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: He had three horses, big purchase prices. He's got a 390 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: horse running the last race today. That is, it's not 391 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: a stakes race. That was purchased for three point two 392 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: million dollars. Three point two million dollars and the horse 393 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: is not running in a stakes race. So you know, 394 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: just because you spend a lot of money, it doesn't 395 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: mean you're going to get a winner at the top level. 396 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: But Baffert's barn, you go down the shed row, one 397 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: side of his barn is more expensive than someone's three barns. 398 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: So I assume because of his reputation, Like if you're like, 399 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: you know, king of Dubai or the Middle East, you 400 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 3: you contact. 401 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 4: Is that how it normally. 402 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: Works because he's the top level guy and one of. 403 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: The most powerful stables in the world is Godolphin and 404 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: it essentially is the ruler of Dubai. Shik Muhammad al Maktoum. Yeah, 405 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: and they win races all over the world. They give 406 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: a lot to the sport, and he loves it tremendously. 407 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: He's don't never want to Kentucky Derby believe he's really 408 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: really early tried. But they host the Dubai World Cup, 409 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: one of the richest races in the world. Bob Bafford 410 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: trains for them a little bit, but not a lot. 411 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: Brad Cox trains for them more So. It's kind of 412 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: interesting to see who Bob Baffert picks up. As far 413 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: as clients, it's it's not always who you would think. 414 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. 415 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: And then as far as the main the main events events, 416 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: do you give out winners or you want to lead. 417 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: Us in a direction here? 418 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: I well, I you know, I you picked the twenty 419 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: eight to one earlier down the hill and the Senator 420 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: Ken Maddie the eighth. Yeah, that was very good pick, 421 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: very good pick. 422 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 4: Who'd you pick in the main of min Dan? 423 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 5: It was your you know, because of his voice and 424 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 5: guitar playing, and I like Clapton doesn't like. 425 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. The ideas that go faster and 426 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: you're betting slowhand, So. 427 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, lay down Sally, but don't lay down. 428 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 6: In the main event. 429 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 3: I think I bet, I bet, I like the name 430 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: and missed the cut. I think it was a yeah, yeah, 431 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: I love it. 432 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: Thirty to one. I mean, but it's how much do 433 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: you how much stock? You're in this all the time? 434 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 3: Like I see thirty one, that's like the long I 435 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 3: think the longest odds and the main main race I 436 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: believe is that does that matter? 437 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 4: Is that? 438 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: No, the horses don't know the ore. 439 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 4: That's good point, that's a fair point. 440 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: Here's what I Here's what I tell the people who 441 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: are coming out to the racetrack. I've been in the 442 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: game thirty five years. I'm still learning, you know. I 443 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: look at the past performances and I can find my 444 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: way around, and I've got my you know, I've got 445 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: certain things I look for, and yeah, I have an 446 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: advantage over a person who maybe only comes out on weekends. 447 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: But at some point, whatever your system is, it's going 448 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: to work. So everybody can pick winners. That is not 449 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: that is not the challenge of this game. Whether you're 450 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: picking a name, whether you're picking a price, the question 451 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: is how did you play that horse? Because that ultimately 452 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: is what this game comes down to did you play win, 453 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: play show, did you play exact? Did you play a try? 454 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: Did you play a super effector did you play a 455 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: super high five? Did you bet the double? Did you 456 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: play a pick three? Did you play a pick four? 457 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: Did you play a pick five? Did you play a 458 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: pick six? There are a multitude of options with every race. 459 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: Making the correct wager is more important than picking winners. 460 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 4: So it's also money money man. Yeah, so that says 461 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 4: you were referending there, and. 462 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: That's that's a pretty straightforward thing. When I first got involved, 463 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: a guy said this to me. It was a long 464 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: time racetracker, and he was right, If it hurts for 465 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: more than thirty seconds, you bet too much. Now I've 466 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: hurt for a long time, a lot more than thirty seconds. 467 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: Many times. You keep teaching yourself over and over again. 468 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: But you should always make it comfortably. You should always 469 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: be responsible about it. But there are days where I'll 470 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: look in the past performances and it's just popping off 471 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: the page. Then there's other days I'll look and it 472 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: looks like mandarin Chinese and I don't understand what I'm 473 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 1: looking about looking at. 474 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: I got a great story about that cause on the 475 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: radio show, we used to have a football show on Sundays, 476 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 3: we had Dick Stockton, the Old Scows. Yeah, and Dick 477 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: was doing a it was a terrible game on Fox. 478 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: You know, he's retired now, and we had to have 479 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 3: him on to promote the game. And I'm like, you know, 480 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: why would anyone watch? I mean, this is just a 481 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 3: dreadful game. And Dick Stockton so smooth. He educated me. 482 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 4: And I used to watch Dick's talking with a kid 483 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 4: doing NBA games and he. 484 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 3: Said, Ben, stat's tell you what has happened, not what's 485 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: going to happen. 486 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: That is right on. And by the way, there's going 487 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: to be some type of chair that falls real quick. 488 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard that. 489 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 4: I heard that. That's sound effects there, but no, but 490 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: it's true. 491 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: That's the thing when you look, when you're looking at 492 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: the racing for him, you're looking at what the horse 493 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: did previously. You hope that they can run to that, 494 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: but you have to figure it out and sometimes they do. Sometimes. 495 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: The thing you got to remember, you're still vetting on 496 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: animals running in a left handed circle, okay, and they 497 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: have minds of their own. 498 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 4: And as far as like the job. How big a 499 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 4: difference does a jockey make? Are these guys all pretty 500 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: similar or I'm. 501 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: Not Okay, there are jockeys who are certainly the best 502 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: of the craft, just like any other sport. But I've 503 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: never believed a jockey can pick a horse up and 504 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: cross the finish line with them. But a jockey can 505 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: cost a horse. So I actually look for jockeys who 506 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: are terrible and avoid them. Avoid. 507 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 6: That's interesting. 508 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, so you kind of know you's around this 509 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: all the time. So you know the guys that are good, 510 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: guys who are how do you guys who are bad? 511 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: They'll keep doing it. 512 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: That's what I can't And here's the thing. I can 513 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: never say that on air, but during commercial break, I'm like, 514 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: why does this person keep doing this? 515 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 4: Yeah? 516 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: And now he is back to Bafford. Is he like 517 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: does he have a stable of jockeys that are like 518 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: his guys? 519 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 520 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: You know, but here's here's and this was I thought 521 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: one of the better lines. And this is actually a 522 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: good life lesson as well. So Baffort right now in 523 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: California has won Hernandez. He's the man. He's gotten a 524 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: really like Ramon Vasquez, who's kind of a backup to him, 525 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: and then he gave Kyle Freshat. He will always give 526 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: a guy a chance, but at some point you get 527 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: moved to the bench. So there was a story a 528 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: number of years ago Kent Desormo had been the man 529 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: with Bob Bafford. All of a sudden he wasn't getting 530 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: mounts and he kind of complained openly to Mike Smith, 531 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: who had also been sent to the bench. And then 532 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: Mike Smith said to Ken Desromo, it's a lot better 533 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: to be on the bench than on the team at all. 534 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: And that's the way it is with the Bafford barn. Yeah, 535 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: he may sit you on the bench, but he wants 536 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: to motivate you, like the great Bobby Knight talking about 537 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: how that's the greatest motivator. 538 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: See, you're title losing to Purdue. 539 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: But with Baffort, he'll eventually bring you back. But yeah, 540 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: he does have like a core of four or five. 541 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: And then if you see someone who's riding really well, 542 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: he's smart, he'll bring them in. Why would you use 543 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: a hot jockey, you like a Flavi and Pratt. He 544 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: didn't know Flavi and Pratt until this guy was an 545 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: apprentice on the circuit started winning titles and all of 546 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, Flavy and Pratt was in the Bob Bafford Barn. 547 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: So he's smart. He goes with the guys who are 548 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: definitely on the rise. 549 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 4: It's very interesting. 550 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 3: And as far as the lineup on Saturday again, people 551 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: want to get tickets, they can do that. 552 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 4: There are some left and we do. If you're in 553 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 4: the area, we'd love you gotta. 554 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get back out here at Breeders' Cup, Doc. 555 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: When does it? It begins in the morning, Southern California, n. 556 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: Ten am and the first race. Okay, as far as 557 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: price is tomorrow in the Dirt and Mile. One of 558 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: the best stories. And I hate to play against the 559 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: best story, but look, when you're gambling, you're not sending them. 560 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: Cody's wish is coming back to defend his title and 561 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: the big ass fans Breeders cut dirt mile. Last year, 562 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: he got a perfect setup. He came from far back, 563 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: they dueled on the lead. I don't see that tomorrow. 564 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: I think Zozos gets a clear lead, might be able 565 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: to win that race at a. 566 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: Price A very good todd thank you. I know you're busy. 567 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: You've got TV. You're more important on TV. I gotta 568 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: tell you. 569 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the crew. I want to hang 570 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: out with the tracks, so we got to do it. 571 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes we will. 572 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 4: It's great, great to meet you man. Thank you very 573 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: much time. I appreciate it. Have a great day there YouTube. 574 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: You can see him on TV Todd. Yeah, yeah, watching 575 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 4: him on Giving Ladies and Gentlemen. 576 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Todd, thank you very much. So uh 577 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: kind of put the ball on this. Then you've been 578 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: out here all day, you've been experiencing the track. It's 579 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: it's it's pretty cool. 580 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 6: It was quite the scene. 581 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 5: I I wouldn't have thought that the building was just huge, 582 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 5: like there was. There were people riding around in golf 583 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 5: carts and I'm like one of those. It's it's huge 584 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 5: and they can fit eighty thousand people in here. 585 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 4: Is that right? I didn't realize is that. I know, 586 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 4: it's it's pretty massive. 587 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: And there's a I drove down I think a Huntington 588 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: coming in and the Derby restaurant's been there for forever. 589 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 4: It's like an iconic Santa Anita like place and all that. 590 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 6: But Katie is a nice town. 591 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 4: Too. 592 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 6: Yes, really nice areas around here. 593 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: So I used to live not that far far away. 594 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 6: All right, Well it got nicer when you left. 595 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 4: Property values went off as soon as I. 596 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 6: Left Valor family left. 597 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, all right, So we'll get out on that. 598 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 6: Oh plug. We talked about him being on TV. 599 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: You need yeah, Benny versus the penny. 600 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: Check that out. I will, and I'm gonna post some video. 601 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 3: I finally learned. I sound like Mike North. I'm gonna grandpa. 602 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 3: I finally learned how to get videos. So I'm gonna 603 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: probably on Saturday. I'll post a little video clip on 604 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: social media. So if you follow me on Facebook or 605 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: on Instagram, I'll put a. 606 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 4: Photo, little video, a little clip, a little taste. If 607 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 4: I know. 608 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 3: People have complained because they're in certainty they can't get 609 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 3: the TV show. 610 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 4: But we are on. It's distributed by NBC Universal. 611 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: You can check that out, regional cable, NBC Sports Boston. Uh. 612 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 4: There one more airing tonight and then yeah. 613 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 6: Don't forget l A. I'll be watching after the Lakers 614 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 6: beat the Orlando. 615 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 5: Magic beyond late night primetime eleven PM on Saturday night. 616 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: So check that's awesome. Yeah, I got we got what 617 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 4: this is we're doing four is that we win this morning? 618 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 6: Woh yeah. 619 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 5: So we woke up early Friday morning and we did 620 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 5: like a little intro for this. Yeah, and then we're 621 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 5: gonna wake up early Saturday morning to do our Saturday 622 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 5: podcast for the fifth hour, and then Sunday we have 623 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 5: the mail bag. So busy weekend for us, and yeah, 624 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 5: it was it was nice being away from the studio 625 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 5: though to do this today. It was busy out here, 626 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 5: but it was a lot of fun. It went so fast. Yeah, 627 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 5: I know, it's it's fit great. 628 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 3: So anyway, have a wonderful rest of your Friday and 629 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 3: try to get out here. 630 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna try to get back out for 631 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: the main event of the Breeders. 632 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 6: Let's see if these passes work again. 633 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: I know, we gotta go, we gotta go check on 634 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: all right, have a wonderful, wonderful Friday night. 635 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 6: Thank you later, Skater gott a murder. I gotta go.