WEBVTT - Ep. 030 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.480 This is the Meat Eater podcast coming at you from 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:04.880 a portion of Idahole that flows into the Snake River. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:09.680 That's right, right, Callahan copy correct. The reason I can't 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:11.520 tell you that is he's got done mule deer hunting 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:20.600 and Callahan, um, he's real skittish. He's got little spots 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:25.959 all over and um and multiple states even, but he 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:30.200 gets leary when you talk about northern Can I say 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:35.720 northern Rocky scale, I mean Rocky. I mean what's Northern Rockies. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.280 That's British Columbia. Okay, the Rockies. You're calling me saying 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.440 we've been hunting the Rockies. We've been hunting meal during 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:47.760 the Rocky Mountains to not betray anything. What what I 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:49.240 think I ought to be illegal? This is nothing to 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.159 do with with with any of this, but it's just 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.320 been something really weighing on my mind. Well I think 0:00:53.360 --> 0:01:00.000 I would be illegal? Is um ads hunting ads? We're 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.680 a dude hunting ads that show a dude with like 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:08.200 a rack on his pack when you know that there 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:10.639 that it was just a rack someone had laying around 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.839 or in a freezer, especially when that dude is still 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.120 looking very sneaky. Because to me, I'm like that guy 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:26.360 as a poacher didn't know it's like the way those there. Yeah, 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.759 he's still sneaking and he's got nothing else with him, 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.560 like Lord knows where the meat is. He's got like 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.200 a rack and he's always standing on a pinnacle surveying 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:41.479 the landscape. Dudes packing game don't look like that. No, 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:43.960 they don't look like dudes that you want to run into. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.560 For the most part, dudes packing game who actually have 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.640 a rack on their back look like some guy that 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:54.600 just is like in the suckiest situation imaginable, can barely 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.760 walk and is on and his head in a downhill 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.800 direction and is not going out of his way to 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:03.600 iron pinnacles and look all majestic and survey the landscape, 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.800 or to be a dude like with a big old 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.359 rack and he's like crossing a raging river with a 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.360 mean look on his face and he still got his 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:16.160 bow already. I just I got the situation never happens. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.119 I would make an add of a couple of dudes 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.399 who just looked like they hated their lives and had 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.480 no weapons because they left him at another part of 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:29.040 the trip. They like this their third trip in there 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.640 in a fight because they're fighting about something and one 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:37.200 of them knee hurts and did say, like Steve's gear. 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.440 I told you we shouldn't have taken that trail to 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.000 the guys readjusting his hip belt. Yeah, you guys trying 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:47.679 to figure out what's around his backpack because he's like, dude, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.440 this shouldn't hurt my neck. This bad to have a 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:53.399 backpack on. Why is it that either my hips kill 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.480 or my shoulders kill. It's when it's supposed to all 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:01.400 be evenly distributed. That would be a realistic ad. But no, 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:05.760 it's a guy looking like like a makeup person might 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.919 have put a little dirt on his face, and he's 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:12.480 on a he's like surveying a majestic mountain scene, rifle 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.000 in hand and like some giant elk crack where you 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.440 mysteriously can't see any part of the thing. Or some 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.680 of the guys are sneaking. They keep a bloody old 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:25.080 skull in their freezer, the sneaky. But the all of 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.120 these guys, even if they're surveying some scene they're in, 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:32.680 they're always in like a semi crouch, like a semi sneak. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.040 I'm like it looks majestic. I'm just thinking about this 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:37.960 because we just did like I mean, it wasn't even 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.800 a huge pack out, but as the way out, I 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.360 was thinking, like, if you took a picture me for 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:50.960 an ad, I don't know what they added before. You 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:56.040 look like somebody you would never ever under really any 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.040 some circumstance like pick up off the side of the road. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.080 That guy is having a hard time. Yet there's something 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:06.000 wrong with you. There's something about blowing by. Yeah, there's 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:09.440 something about how miserable he looks. It gives me the Willie's. 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:11.480 There's one guy I don't know a name who he has. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.760 There's one guy I know it must have kept a skull. 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.159 He had an elks Go on a freezer, because I 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.200 feel like that elks Go popped up in more ads 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:26.360 of packing ads. You know what we're doing today is 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:31.400 we're answering um we're doing. We're here with Garrett Smith, 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:38.560 Garrett Audie, everyone out there. Garrett has a electric toothbrush. 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:43.520 Um lives in a vehicle, just getting done living in 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.200 a vehicle at thirty two years of age, but has 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:46.880 an electric toothbrush. And he got in a lot of 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.160 toothbrush because he thought it was a step toward adulthood, 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:59.960 baby steps. That's Brad's calculated move. He blew, He blew 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.679 forty bucks on a toothbrush that makes a humming noise. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:09.840 Ryan Callahan Hello, Uh, Jana's Van's wall? Who tells us? 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.680 And Adam I don't even know what your last name? That? Well, 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:19.839 yeah that's right, Adam Offa who's a camera guy. The 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.120 first time we ever went out with you, did you 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.400 have enjoyable time? Yeah? It was fun. It was fun, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.919 you guys fun hard. It was tough, but fun. I 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.800 got to see Callahan's mustache every you got to see 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.760 more than that, Yeah, I dig it a little more 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.400 than that. Callahan came back into camp wearing enough but 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:42.360 his suspenders one night, and with a mustache and the 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:47.200 Paris suspenders, and the reason for that being it was like, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:51.680 what were the suspenders holding up his pants? Oh? Yeah, yeah, 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.760 he doesn't just clip He needs that kind of the 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.279 old clips. He can just like clip it to his 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:04.039 buttocks and his hips. This was not a fashionable moment. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.480 It was very dark out and uh, I had had 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:13.960 taken the majority of my sweaty clothing off and draped 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.760 it over a mule deer. So the black bear that 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:18.720 I had gonna point out, he left to go get 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.320 a black bear and came back with the deer. Yes, 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.440 it came out with a bag of guts from a 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:29.440 deer um. But yeah, so I'm not Adam pointed out 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:33.440 it looked like a fat stick. It's like you're a 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:41.800 hundred forty pounds, but you have a beer gut work anyway. Yeah, 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.320 so I had peeled off a good portion of my 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:49.039 clothing to put on top of the deer, to to 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:50.960 keep the bear you were trying to kill from eating 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.400 your deer, or give me some peace of mind or something. Yeah, 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.480 so I feel like that trick works. We did that 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.760 all the time leaving ilk overnight. You don't know it himpirically, 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.520 but it feels like it would work. I p around, 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.600 put clothes on it. It can't hurt. I've never seen 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:16.000 bears get on carcasses faster anywhere than Colorado, So I 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.400 think if and you're talking about doing that in Colorado 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.000 all the time, Yeah, I mean if that for me 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.440 would be a pretty good Litmas test. My brother lost 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.200 a good portion of it out to a bear last year. 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:28.560 I'd like to ask him if he did the clothes 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:32.120 trick or not. That was our tree too, right. What 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.480 he did he boned out. He left the four legs 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:42.360 on the bone and boned out um the rest and 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.040 the bear ate, all the boned out stuff and buried 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.240 all the bone and stuff. So he loaded all the 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.240 boned and stuff, dug it back up, put it on 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.720 his llama, brought it down to a creek and wash 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.200 it on. Got out of there because he lost his 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.000 quiver in the night, because he's like heading back to 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.040 his camp after dar because threw the latch on his quiver. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.520 He had one of those uh tight spots, but he 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.080 didn't have it on there. Right now, I thought your 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:16.200 brother was shot recurvever longbow. Oh that was Danny, No, Matt. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.760 Danny is a traditional well, I mean, he likes to 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.520 shoot a recur but he hunts with primarily with a rifle. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.360 I think he killed like oh dear with his recurve. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.320 But he likes to shoot recreationally. My other brothers shoots 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.000 a compound. He don't like to hunt with the rifle. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.080 He just likes the hunt on his boat. A matter 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.680 of fact, he's got a mountain goat tagging right now, 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.640 he's hunt Mountain GOLs with his boat, but he's bringing 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.120 his rifle to I told me he's gonna look like 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.040 Arnold Schwarzenegger in the end of Commando when he raids 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:43.360 that island compound with a duffel bag full of weapons. 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.439 It's gonna have a caddy. Yeah, like, yes about it? 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:52.080 Two or fifty yard shot. This is one of those 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:58.920 special podcast episodes, and we answered questions. Um, here's the 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:03.640 first question this, Ah, everybody gets a chance to answer this. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:10.880 It's from what the hell town we near? This is 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.760 something from this town. We're in the middle of the Rockies. Well, 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:16.840 I just had a weird thing happened where I felt 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.959 like I had entered like another dimension because the guy 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.080 named Drew says, this is that the town. We're gonna 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:27.480 look at the bottom of that darn close, darn close, fellow, 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.680 darn close to us right now? How's this say? So 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.480 not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I have a 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:37.640 buddy who is convinced that the Clinton administration's main motivation 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:41.000 for reintroducing wolves back into the West was for gun control. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:46.679 With wolves growing at an exponential rate and negatively impacting ungulates, 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.600 the tradition of hunting would diminish over the years, with 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:54.199 fewer and fewer hunters, the sale of new firearms go down, 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:59.160 and in time, hunting won't become an American value. Garretty, 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:03.720 what's your take on that. I think his buddies got 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:11.280 to focus on another field of study because personally, that's 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:15.000 a roundabout way of going about stuff. Yeah, you're like 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.760 you're like taking like the real like long gamble on 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:25.480 that got an idea. I got an idea. Feather floats too, 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:33.040 No Drew, I Uh, I think there's no there's no 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:39.400 question how um the Clinton administration passed and the potential 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:45.000 Clinton administration future feels about firearm regulations, There's no question there. 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.400 Do I think that they would uh have the wherewithal 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:57.120 and like the crystal ball clairvoyance kind of thing to 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.360 like have such a long draw on out planned. It 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:06.200 seems so um, sort of sketchy and its exception and 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:11.160 difficult to track. And I don't think that's the case. 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:13.920 What I think it happened. I don't think there's a 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.120 big mystery about why wolves are back. I think wolves 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:24.640 were reintroduced because they had been extirpated regionally, extirpated from 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:29.480 human caused activities, and we have an obligation to remedy 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:36.000 human caused ecological catastrophe. It's not always popular, but I 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:39.240 think it's our obligation. Um, we can't drive animals to 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:46.760 extinction like it's it's bad business. It's bad spiritually, very bad. Um, 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.720 depending on your worldview, I think it would be a 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:54.839 sin against God and man to just accept extinctions as 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.480 a matter of course. So I think that there was 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.800 an obligation to right that wrong. I'm not comment right 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.880 now on whether or not we should regulate wolves. I 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:04.840 think rules should be regulated like any other big game. 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.200 I think they should be at this point managed in 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.600 places where they've recovered. I think they should be managed 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.960 on the state level as a renewable resource. But no, 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:14.959 I just I think your body is off. I think 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:20.600 your body maybe smoking a little too much herb um. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.040 One thing I think when I when I see a 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:26.040 question like that is um. This is writer Joan Didion, 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.760 and she has a book called Slouching Towards Bethlehem, or 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.560 maybe it was she has nothing book called The White Album. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.040 I can't remember what you her books this was in, 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.960 but she was talking about in the sixties now not now, 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:38.600 but this is going on in the sixties. She's talking 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:44.800 about because there's so much information out there that people 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:49.440 get like that the more information it becomes available, the 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.840 more widespread and easily accessible that information is, people get 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:58.080 more hungry for like the secret story. You know, we're 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.360 talking about this earlier today in relation to how seems 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:04.360 that people that smoke a lot of weed really start 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:11.160 getting hungry for those inside scoops. My brother believes that 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.040 it's the same kind of guy who's hungry for an 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:16.760 inside scoop is the same guy who likes starts smoking 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.520 a lot of weed. And it's not that smoking weed 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.319 makes you hungry for the inside scoop that no one 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:25.480 knows the real truth about Johnny? Why do you think 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.240 that's Why do you think that was the ultimate goal 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:31.520 of woolf for introduction disarming America. I agree with the 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:36.120 the smoking too MUCHO um really yeah, or if he's 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:42.120 never smoked weed in his life, he needs to start 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:47.680 calling those nerves. Adam, are we missing anything on this question? No? No, yeah, 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.559 I that just seems so unpossible. I mean, yeah, I 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.439 just don't feel like it really warrants really much more 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:58.280 of our Yeah, I'm interesting, all right. You guys always 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:02.040 going to say this is a question though you guys 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.080 always go into such great detail in your discussion, so 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:06.880 it was a compliment. I wasn't even part of the question. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.240 I would love to hear about your recommendations, experiences, horror stories, 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:18.319 and traveling by means of airplanes, navigating, t s a, passports, visas, customs, packing, 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:24.200 guns and cameras, packaging and travel with meat and hides um. 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.720 Leaving like production element out of it which isn't as 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.800 interesting to me, like the cameras and stuff like that, 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.920 and leaving the passports and visas out of it. I 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:36.680 think what I like about this question is the traveling 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:41.400 with game meat. I like that aspect of this question 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.040 a lot. And I like a little bit to travel 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:47.840 with guns thing um. And all the travel with gaming 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.600 I've ever done. I've lost. One time I lost a 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:54.760 bunch of American eels. It was very hot. They were 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.320 lost in the Billings, Montana airport. I was coming back 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.520 from New York State with a bunch of eels, and 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:01.000 by the time I got them back, it was just 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:04.320 a sack of slime and eel bones. I mean it 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.400 was it was bad. The only thing I've ever lost. 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:12.400 I'm pretty careful about it. I like the freeze stuff. 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.160 Put it in a cooler, duct tape the cooler shut 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.880 um and check it, and even if it were to 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.440 get lost for a day or two, the stuff is 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:24.720 gonna stay pretty good inside there. You can when dealing 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.920 with small amounts, like I've taken turkeys, and instead of 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:32.520 even trusting that I would lose the turkey two baggage loss, 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.480 I just carry the bird on. At one time had 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:41.800 a bag of pickguts frozen in my carry on. They 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.240 pulled it out to inspect it and had no comment 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.680 on it. Another time had a shotgun shell in my 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.600 carry on, and that did not go smoothly I had. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.080 I was interviewed by the police, and they knew, like 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:56.600 I was, like, man, we were just hunting time again. 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.040 I forgot to take the shocker shot in my bag. 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.400 But they had like a whole rigmarole they had to 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.680 go through, and they knew that I was obviously just 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.080 you know, made a mistake, but they still had to 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.040 notify the police and fill out of, you know, a 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.280 bunch of paperwork, and they were kind of annoyed with 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.000 me because you could tell that it happened to them 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:19.280 every day in Anchorage. Some Yahoo has a thing y'all 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:23.240 need to tell your story your turkey, your dead turkey, 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.240 and your shotgun show. Yeah that was just last year, 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.040 wasn't it. I think we done a shoot and then 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.560 I was maybe I stayed to hunt. It wasn't a shoot. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.920 We're just hunting dugs for fun. Oh no, we're turkey 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:40.480 hunt in California or No, or was Wisconsin. I think 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.320 it was my personal trip. I was humping my dad, 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.880 my brother was coming home. Anyways, checked my bags, went 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.200 through security. What was it? You didn't tell them what's 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.920 in your bag? Well get to that or you're doing 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.840 a story and you wouldn't you know, I wouldn't tell 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:58.600 the story in this order, but go ahead. Well you 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.200 know I'm coming home from turkey hunt. So I checked 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.600 all my bags. I have my backpack with my laptop 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:07.840 in on me and they called my name, Janice ptailis, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:12.040 please come back to security, and um I rolled back 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.400 in there and he's like, we found a loose Uh. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:16.800 So I walked through the door and take me to 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:18.879 the back door and then we always stayless. Steel tables 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.240 set out in this room, and I had packed my 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.440 not yet frozen turkey parts just in zip blocks, double 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.000 ziplock bags. They're they're cool. Just packed him into the 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:33.280 middle of my big duffles like it was a skinned yeah, 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.919 caught up into like legs and breasts exactly. And so 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.040 I walked into this room and they've got you know, 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.639 we have these giant I don't know how many leaders 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.000 those stuffle bags are of ours that we have, like 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:51.919 maybe even bigger. All my stuff spread out, you know, 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.919 just like the individual It was like turkey because I 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.400 was bringing home like wings and and you know, feathers 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.879 from my girls, and you know, all the meat and 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.520 just everything's just spread out everywhere. In my gun case 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.520 is actually locked up like it's off to the side. 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.240 I'm like, that's kind of weird. It's kind of funny, 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.439 you know. So they told me that the meat is 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.840 what ticked off the X ray machine because just because 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.919 like the big turkey breast kind of looks like a 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.639 glob of weird matter, I guess. So they went in 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.480 to check at that and they found a loose shell 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.240 in there. So you can have you know, AMMO in 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:27.800 your baggage, but it has to be in a in 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:33.600 ad for the purpose either original packaging or like a 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.520 plastic container made to carry it. And it's not supposed 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:41.359 to be able to touch like you know it ty 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:45.200 two shells come sometimes just touching. Yeah, it's supposed to 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:50.639 have dividers. No, I didn't know that. So he showed 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.240 it to me, and I'm thinking, oh, man, because I 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.399 just heard your stories, I was thinking now when I 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:57.040 missed my flys and I had to go through like 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.800 the big you know, police interview in YadA YadA, and 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:01.959 you was, he like makes a phone call and goes, no, 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.239 we just gotta pitch this. Well I look at it, 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:10.199 and I had a box of um turkey rounds, like 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.600 in one of those like aftermarket plastic boxes, you know, 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.080 and them in there were like the heavy shot the 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.600 stuff it's like four or five bucks around, and then 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:22.040 there was five that were like some cheaper Remington stuff. Well, 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.440 he's holding the heavy heavy shot in his hand. I'm like, 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.119 you know, if we're gonna throw a shell out, you know, 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.160 maybe I could do a little swap because I've actually 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.240 got a container in my in my you know, a 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.680 gun case locked in there. And he's like, yeah, sure, 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.800 I don't see why not. So I got to keep 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:42.200 the heavy shot. Heavy shot was probably a turkey hunter. 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:49.719 Apparently it doesn't hurt task. Now we had a fuel canister, yeah, um, 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:51.960 and we can do a situation. A lot of times 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.199 you're buying bear spray and you can't fly with that 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.840 no matter what. And fuel cans. You can't fly on 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:00.480 commercial airliners with fuel cans. And think we had a 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.560 four thousand dollar fine for a few came from t 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.840 s A. Never made never even made it on the plane, 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.480 ice appropal stuff, never even made it on the plane. 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:13.800 No ice appropa. What's the word I'm looking for? Team Yeah, 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.920 never made it on the plane. So they call one 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:18.639 of the guys, one of the guys were traveling with. 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.480 They call his name because like we're just checking bags 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.119 under whoever's name. He goes down like, hey, there's this 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:29.439 canctor is it? O Oh, I don't need it? He 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.679 thinks nothing of it. Weeks go by, a letter of 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.040 four thousand dollar fine shows up the mail. The lawyer 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:42.199 got it down to half that. Unreal. Yeah, I would say, uh, 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.479 just to throw in like one helpful tidbit here. If 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.800 you're traveling internationally and you're looking at your flight schedule 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.919 and you're like, oh, don't have any long layovers. You 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.600 may want to adjust that so you have two hours 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:57.879 at customs. I think two hours at customs is kind 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:02.119 of the memory we had too. The gun stuff throws 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.560 in for a loop, throws in for loop. There's just 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.840 some formalities. Now. If you're like, I'll tell you one. 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:08.639 The biggest tip I would give. The biggest trouble I 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.480 had if you if you are traveling internationally is go 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:18.320 to US customs and have them give you a There's 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.400 a form and even has a standard number. Basically write 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.760 down what your rifle is, serial number, description to rifle. 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.040 They stamp that form. So when you're coming back into 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:28.720 the US, Like people are as worried about what the 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.560 other country's government's gonna think, But when you're coming back 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:35.800 in the US, you can't just be turning up in 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.040 customs with a gun. They're gonna want to know is 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.200 that your gun? Where did you get the thing? So 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:43.320 getting that and I had I didn't do this one 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.680 time and it caused all kinds of headaches. Get the 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.840 customs form and get it stamp saying I own X 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:52.760 serial number firearm what scope is on its serial number 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.040 of your scope. So when you come back to the US, 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:57.760 you can go like I left with this thing here 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:02.720 it's a temporary export and then import form. Yeah, that 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:04.399 I can cause trouble because they don't want you just 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.360 turning up at the border toting guns that they don't 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.280 know how you came into it and what it is. 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.520 And so you gotta watch Alfred. That stuff just flying 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:15.679 generally can never flowing with the firearm works like this. 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.760 I'm talking general domestic travel. You gotta have a hard 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:22.199 sided case, and you gotta have locks on it and 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.160 have it actually locked up. You got your case locked 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:27.840 in such a way that you cannot get the gun 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:31.040 out without undoing the locks. I've seen people take a 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.080 regular case and put a little pad lock on the 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:35.640 two parts of the handle. And I had a couple 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:36.800 weeks ago, I had a woman in front of you 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:38.960 get turned away by the t s A because he 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.880 just threw the latches and pulled the gun out. Lock 0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.160 wasn't doing ship for good because it was right locked 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:45.399 in the middle of the case. So you got a 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:49.120 hard sided case that is such that you cannot get 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.679 the firearm out without removing the locks. They don't care 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.760 if it's two locks, three locks, four locks, one lock, 0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:56.880 it's gotta be unlocked to get it out. It doesn't 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.760 need to be a T A T S A lock 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.199 like the universe. The locks doesn't need to be that. 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.080 You go up, you tell the that the check encounter, 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.840 you say, I'm traveling with the firearm. They're gonna give 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:11.200 you a declaration form. All the declaration form says as 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:16.640 you're saying, the firearm is not loaded. Depending you can 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:21.280 have the ammunition in the case or not. To be safe, 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:23.800 don't put it in the case. Have the ammunition in 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:28.760 a hard case meant for the purpose of transport and shells. 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.800 The reason I don't like the paper cases is because 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:34.719 they can just get messed up, paper rips. Whatever they 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:36.920