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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of Clay and Buck International Edition. In fact,

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Speaker 2: Clay over in Israel, I'm still here in the good

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Speaker 2: old us of A. He'll tell us about what he

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Speaker 2: has seen over there, what's going on. Fascinating time to

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Speaker 2: be in the Near East, where is right now going

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Speaker 2: through a momentous change.

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Speaker 1: Not only has there been.

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Speaker 2: The fighting between Israel and its enemies terrorist groups Hamas

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Speaker 2: has Belah and their backers in Iran over the last year,

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Speaker 2: well much longer than that, but at a heightened state.

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Speaker 2: Over the last year, you have the fall of the

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Speaker 2: House of Assad in Syria, Clay and I'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you a bit about that. There is some jubilation in

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Speaker 2: the streets, a lot of people firing. Celebratory gunfire is

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Speaker 2: a thing in the Middle East. You don't see it

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Speaker 2: that many other places because those bullets do come down.

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Speaker 2: It is actually quite dangerous and stupid and people do

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Speaker 2: die from this. But anyway, a lot of celebratory gunfire,

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Speaker 2: that's what they call it in the news going on

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Speaker 2: in Syria. Despite the fact that yes Asada is gone,

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Speaker 2: he was a bad man. The person who is currently

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Speaker 2: the de facto head of the state of Syria was

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Speaker 2: formerly a member of al Qaida, so that's probably not

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Speaker 2: looking so great for the long term. I know they're

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Speaker 2: saying some things now to calm the international community down. Well,

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Speaker 2: we'll get into this in a little bit. But Clay

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Speaker 2: is over there right now. Not saying this is a

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Speaker 2: cause and effect moment. But Clay goes to the region

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Speaker 2: and one of the worst tyrants of the last fifty

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Speaker 2: years happens to just fall suddenly and his massive car

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Speaker 2: collection of supercars and antique cars is exposed as well.

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Speaker 2: Which is all these guys man Middle Eastern tyrants all

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Speaker 2: about the repression and bugattis. It's somehow this always goes

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Speaker 2: hand in hand. We'll desist some pretty.

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Speaker 3: Girls, oftentimes in religiously restrictive countries as well. Amazing the

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Speaker 3: dictator never has one wife for fifty years. Kind of

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Speaker 3: interesting how that works too.

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Speaker 2: It is funny how that works out, isn't it something

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Speaker 2: that never is a big surprise. We also have the

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Speaker 2: aftermath of two things that have occurred yesterday and now

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Speaker 2: the media narrative formation around it.

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Speaker 1: The Daniel Penny verdict. We were very.

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Speaker 2: Pleased to see the jury came to what we both

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Speaker 2: believe here is absolutely the right decision, which was a

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Speaker 2: not guilty verdict. And after the judge dismissed the top

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Speaker 2: count and we also had the arrest of this guy, Luigi,

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Speaker 2: And there have been a lot of memes about this

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Speaker 2: Luigi MANGIONI who it seems. I know it is alleged,

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Speaker 2: but I mean they found the guy with the weapon.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is Colonel Mustard with the candlestick in

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Speaker 2: the solarium on video. Basically, I mean this is very

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Speaker 2: much looking like they have the guy. But he allegedly

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Speaker 2: killed the United Healthcare CEO. And there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: talk about this online. We'll get into some of it.

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Speaker 2: Also more on the the big the big Trump picks

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Speaker 2: for the cabinet right now, the ones that are getting attention,

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Speaker 2: particularly Pete Hegseeth Cash Patel, RFK Junior.

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Speaker 1: He may get rid of your beloved die in.

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Speaker 2: Your mountain dew, mister Clay, you aware of this. I

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Speaker 2: think yellow number whatever it is, maybe a thing of

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Speaker 2: the past. Your mountain dew might become clear. Is clear

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Speaker 2: mountain dew not as exciting to you?

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Speaker 4: It certainly is not. That's just sprite with less sugar.

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Speaker 3: So I've been trying to give up sodas and in

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Speaker 3: favor of coffee and Crockett Coffee in particular. I think

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Speaker 3: that's the right decision from a healthcare perspective. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is gonna be intriguing to see. I actually will

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Speaker 3: talk about this more. I'm actually feeling really good about

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Speaker 3: every one of Trump's nominees getting through at this point.

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Speaker 3: I think everybody's kind of getting in line. The heag

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Speaker 3: Set momentum is very good, and I'm not even seeing

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Speaker 3: To you and I talked about as soon as they

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Speaker 3: moved from oh, he's guilty of sexual assault to he

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Speaker 3: occasionally drinks a beer when he's on television, maybe a

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Speaker 3: sign that they weren't having a lot of success in

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Speaker 3: tearing him down.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and the troops that have come forward, including those

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Speaker 2: who served many who served with him, overwhelming support from them.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people in the special operations community also

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Speaker 2: coming forward to say that they want Pete.

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Speaker 1: Heggset, that he is the guy.

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Speaker 2: I do think that there has there's been a there's

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Speaker 2: the military institutionalist who has really been effectively a politician

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Speaker 2: That that's what you have to be to run the Pentagon.

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Speaker 2: A warfighter running the Pentagon is something that a lot

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Speaker 2: of warfighters want to see right now. So that's seeming

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Speaker 2: to go through, which is a good thing. I wanted

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Speaker 2: to start on this claim. I keep wondering when we're

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Speaker 2: going to see what the hashtag resistance is. And let

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Speaker 2: me be clear, there was almost nothing from BLM last night.

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Speaker 1: In I mean, I didn't see anything. Actually in New York.

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Speaker 2: There were some people saying some things outside the courtroom,

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Speaker 2: but there were no riots, and we didn't expect there

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Speaker 2: to be. We said, it feels like that is an

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Speaker 2: exhausted mobilization for the left. Well, I keep waiting for

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Speaker 2: them to figure out what their opposition is going to

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Speaker 2: be and how they're going to try to stymy the

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Speaker 2: Trump agenda in terms of the narrative right and really

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Speaker 2: a move to sanity, a move toward the center Clay

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Speaker 2: feels kind of inevitable, I would think, but maybe not.

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Speaker 2: This is cut four AOC who I perhaps have been

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Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly refers to it as a street communist, our friend, Jesse,

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Speaker 2: I like that term, less of a street communist, less

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Speaker 2: of somebody who is out there as kind of a

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Speaker 2: community organizer, activist, rabble rouser another way of saying it,

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Speaker 2: a rabble rouser.

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Speaker 1: That she's been moving toward leadership. No, she's still crazy.

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Speaker 2: Actually here she is on the Daniel Penny thing. This

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Speaker 2: is cut forward play it.

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Speaker 5: If we do not want violence on our subways, and

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Speaker 5: the point of our justice system is a level of

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Speaker 5: accountability to prevent a person who help does not have

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Speaker 5: remorse about taking another person's lives. I mean, even people

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Speaker 5: who have engaged in NANSLAUGHNSS, or have taken a light

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Speaker 5: accidentally expressed remorse. And so the fact that a person

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Speaker 5: that it may happen again. And if we do not

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Speaker 5: should exert a level of accountability to prevent that from

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Speaker 2: As if Clay locking up Daniel Penny would make the

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Speaker 1: She didn't get the memo that the jury put out.

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Speaker 3: Here's a question for you, and I'm not sure what

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Speaker 3: my answer is. Is Daniel Penny a twenty four to

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Speaker 3: kind of move on because there isn't really any kind

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Speaker 3: a form of rallying cry for the left. My inclination

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Speaker 3: frankly didn't expect to last as long as they did

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Speaker 3: that did right. Like they decided January sixth was the

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Speaker 3: worst day in America since the Civil War, and they

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Speaker 3: made it a thing for years and years. Daniel Penny,

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Speaker 3: think this is a story that forty eight hours from

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Speaker 2: I think that this one goes meaning that it fails away.

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Speaker 2: I think that this isn't what they need as a

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Speaker 2: rallying cry. Here's the thing. People on the street. People

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Speaker 2: And New Yorkers are actually tired of that. It's beyond

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Speaker 2: the political now in terms of partisan ship. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's still some lunatic Democrats, but now it's only the

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Speaker 2: I think it's been a huge change. Normal people, including.

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Speaker 1: There are normal Democrats. I know, sounds like secular.

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Speaker 2: There are lots of normal Democrats wrong on some ideas,

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Speaker 2: but saying they see this play and they say to themselves,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's probably the ultimate takeaway. In

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Speaker 3: the short term, you get outrageous statements like what we

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Speaker 3: And when you actually acknowledge the facts of this case

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Speaker 3: even the lack of BLM protests buck they were really

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Speaker 3: by this jury. And then nothing happened. And I think,

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Speaker 3: public proclamation that they wanted there to be some consequences

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Speaker 3: for this jury.

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Speaker 4: Verdict.

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Speaker 3: Nothing happened. Nobody really showed up in New York City.

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Speaker 3: It makes you wonder, and again, I know we're not

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Speaker 3: allowed to go back in time and re examine this stuff.

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Speaker 3: I still want to know how they were able to

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Speaker 3: mobilize so many people with the BLM riots of the

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Speaker 3: summer of twenty twenty. There was money behind that. Remember

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Speaker 3: how mysteriously all the riot gear would just show up.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Money behind that. Trump was in office, but there doesn't

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Speaker 3: seem to be any mass mobilization that's occurring against Trump.

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Speaker 3: I think the failure of any real opposition by and

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Speaker 3: large to his cabinet nominees, the left is beaten and weak,

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Speaker 3: I think right.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, that's exactly what I'm feeling, which is I

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Speaker 2: cannot remember. I'm gonna tell you all that, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: be honest with you. Since I've been doing this, since

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Speaker 2: I've been in the world of media and not the

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Speaker 2: world of the intelligence community, I've never felt like the

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like they got nothing. I don't know

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Speaker 2: who is the leader, what is the narrative, what is

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Speaker 2: I think this means that Trump has more leeway for

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Speaker 2: this is they're saying because a black man was killed

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Speaker 1: The Washington Post zone numbers show this happens fifteen times,

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Speaker 1: perhaps a year.

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Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean that in every case the cop,

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Speaker 2: by the way, has acted wrongly. Just unarmed black man

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Speaker 2: Thirty times more people in the United States, as a

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Speaker 2: matter of numbers, pure numbers, die from beastings than unarmed

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million. And they burned down neighborhoods and

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Speaker 2: caused billions of dollars of damage and needed to have

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Speaker 2: a national racial reckoning.

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Speaker 1: This was insane. The whole thing was completely insane.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I got I pulled this data because I

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Speaker 3: think it ties in. We have millions of people who listen.

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Speaker 3: We are thankful for you all over the country every

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Speaker 3: single day, and we enjoy spending our time with you.

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Speaker 3: Our numbers continue to grow. I think because over time,

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Speaker 3: basically media is a test do you trust this person

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Speaker 3: or do you not. The last week of November, which

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Speaker 3: far the most valuable advertising bracket. CNN had forty one

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Speaker 3: thousand viewers. That's less than would be in an average

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Speaker 3: football stadium. They've collapsed, and I think it's because of

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Speaker 3: arguments like the one that Audie Cornish made. It's just

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Speaker 4: To listen.

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Speaker 1: If you're on the American Left tonight, here's my chart.

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Speaker 1: The good guys today.

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Speaker 2: I think they ought to build a statute of this

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say it.

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Speaker 4: because race, as.

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Speaker 3: I gave Jennings credit, But actually CNN just went down

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Speaker 3: the racial rabbit hole, which is one hundred percent dishonest,

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Speaker 3: as the data all reflects. And so this is why

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Speaker 3: I think their audience has finally collapsed all the lies

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Speaker 3: that they've told building up through COVID, first Trump term.

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Speaker 3: People finally have tuned out. And I think there is

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Speaker 3: a panic setting in over these businesses, which is what

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Speaker 3: MSNBC and CNN are, make no mistake, their media businesses,

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Speaker 3: all of them collapsing. We'll take some of your calls,

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Speaker 3: will react. Also, I love that Trump has said he

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Speaker 3: is officially going to end birthright citizenship. We want to

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Speaker 3: play some of that that was in an interview for

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Speaker 3: Walking back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show, a big

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Speaker 3: story over the weekend may prove to be big for

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Speaker 3: some time to come. Syria loses, as Buck pointed out,

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Speaker 3: a sod the son of the initial dictator. This one

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Speaker 3: was not expected to be the follow up. His older

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Speaker 3: brother died in a car accident, I believe, and so

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Speaker 3: this assad who was an I doctor in Europe in

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Speaker 3: There now is a power vacuum in Syria. Buck, what's

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Speaker 3: the right thing to do for Donald Trump as he

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Speaker 3: comes in In regards to the Middle East? The hostages

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Speaker 3: are a huge story. I'm in Israel right now. They're

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Speaker 3: over one hundred of them. I toured the Kibbutz, one

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Speaker 3: of them that was run over and attacked. I was

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Speaker 3: at the Nova Dance, the music festival where over four

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Speaker 3: hundred young people were killed on October seventh. I have

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Speaker 3: toured all these different places with our friends at the IFCJ.

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Speaker 3: I'm here until we're doing the show Wednesday and Thursday,

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Speaker 3: also from Israel. I'm sitting down tomorrow with the speaker

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Speaker 3: of basically the House in Israel. He's the number three

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Speaker 3: overall politician. There's a lot of talk about Syria, but

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Speaker 3: doesn't it all come back to Iran and the decision

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Speaker 3: that the Trump team is going to have to make

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Speaker 3: regarding what to do about their nuclear ambition.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that to me?

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Speaker 3: That's really You can talk about all these smaller countries, yes,

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Speaker 3: Lebanon and Hamas, but they're really all funded by Iran,

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Speaker 3: which is the big dog in.

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Speaker 4: The Middle East. Right now, what should the Trump team

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Speaker 4: be doing? In your mind?

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Speaker 2: I think the Trump team is going to do a

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Speaker 2: lot of what we saw in the first four years

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Speaker 2: when it comes to foreign policy. Foreign policy for the

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Speaker 2: Trump administration one point zero term one was one of

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Speaker 2: the clear bright spots. Really, I don't know if unassailable

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Speaker 2: is the word, but it's something close to that. The

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Speaker 2: fact that no foreign wars started. And I think on

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Speaker 2: a foreign policy alone scope, you'd have to give Trump

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Speaker 2: an A. I mean maybe the kind of person who

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Speaker 2: doesn't believe in given an A, you may be given

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Speaker 2: an A minus. There were a number of things you

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Speaker 2: could point. To back this up, I would just note,

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Speaker 2: though the biggest thing is no new wars, not getting

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Speaker 2: of people who served in these wars.

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Speaker 2: Termed the g WATT the Global War on Terror, and

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Speaker 2: then the Obama administration came in, and I truly can't

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Speaker 2: even remember. I was in the CIA when they came

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Speaker 2: in in two thousand and eight or two thousand and

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Speaker 2: nine rather, and I don't even remember what they wanted

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Speaker 2: to call it, but it was something like overseas contingency

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Speaker 2: operations against foreign extremist elements. I mean, it was the craziest,

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Speaker 2: when dealing with the head chopping suicide vest maniacs of

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Speaker 2: AQI and the Taliban and the Akani network, etc. So Trump,

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Speaker 2: I think, will return to a lot of what we saw,

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Speaker 2: which is a first and foremost, do no harm to

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Speaker 2: our troops and to our interests, you know, don't put

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Speaker 2: them in harm's way without there being an absolutely necessary cause.

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Speaker 2: Trump destroyed ISIS, as we remember, very rapidly by allowing

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Speaker 2: the military to do what they needed to do on

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Speaker 2: the Middle East. Now, I think Trump is actually in

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Speaker 2: a stronger He's inheriting a stronger position than anybody has

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Speaker 2: in the post nine to eleven era.

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Speaker 1: I really believe that.

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Speaker 2: The failures of the Iran nuclear deal, I think are

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Speaker 2: apparent to anybody who is paying attention. Giving Iran more leeway,

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Speaker 2: giving the Molas more money was a disaster. It did

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Speaker 2: not make them more willing to play ball with the

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Speaker 2: international community and stop being the biggest supporter of terror.

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Speaker 2: The best thing that's happened is Israel has largely defanged

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Speaker 2: the Iranian serpent through Hamas and Hesbela being reduced as

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Speaker 2: this point, I'm sure you're seeing and hearing a lot

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Speaker 2: about this from the people that you're on the ground

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Speaker 2: it's the Pager operation, the operations in Gaza, major military

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Speaker 2: operations there, this opens the doorway to I think, much

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Speaker 2: more lasting diplomatic agreements and a forward moving Middle East,

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Speaker 2: because Iran is far less capable to extend its tentacles

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Speaker 2: and strangle these things so you might have the Gulf

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Speaker 2: States moving more toward Israel, which I think would be

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Speaker 2: a very good thing. I think you could have Egyptian

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Speaker 2: Israeli relations moving in the right direction. So what does

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Speaker 2: Trump do? I mean, there's a lot we're talking to

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Speaker 2: the Middle East. We could obviously do a show on

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Speaker 2: does Trump do? I think He's got good people in place,

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Speaker 2: Mark or Rubio is a solid and experienced foreign policy

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Speaker 2: are and be treated as such. Your enemy should know

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Speaker 2: who they are and be treated as such. And that's

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Speaker 2: the way Trump is going to going to deal with it.

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Speaker 2: So I think that there's a very I think that

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Speaker 2: going forward there's a greater opportunity for stability than we've

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Speaker 1: Exception of Syria.

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Speaker 2: I am very concerned about the trajectory of Syria right now,

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Speaker 3: So one of the challenges with all of these situations

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Speaker 4: Of that danger.

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Speaker 3: For instance, Iraq seems to have calmed down now, but

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Speaker 3: for some time the situation was, oh, if we replace

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Speaker 4: And that didn't happen. Right.

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Speaker 3: We spent trillions of dollars of taxpayer money, we wasted thousands,

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Speaker 3: unfortunately lives, for a situation that did not materially change

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Speaker 3: the overall trajectory of the Middle East, at least so far.

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Speaker 3: My wonder is, is now the time to really put

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Speaker 3: Iran's ability to get a nuclear weapon, Because if they

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Speaker 3: be in a position where nobody can mess with them.

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Speaker 3: That's why North Korea wants nuclear weapons. That's why Russia

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Speaker 3: that's why Ukraine wishes that they hadn't given them up,

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Speaker 3: kind of on their own right, if you could go

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Speaker 3: back in time, I bet Ukraine wishes they had kept

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Speaker 3: all the nuclear weapons they had, and I bet Russia

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have invaded if they had done. So my point

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Speaker 3: is we can talk all the time about democracy and

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Speaker 3: then the flourishment of freedom, Ultimately there has to be

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Speaker 3: forced to back it up or else it's all for naught,

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Speaker 3: particularly in the Middle East. So I think Trump is

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Speaker 3: going to come in and be a lot tougher on Iran.

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Speaker 3: I think he should be. I think the question is

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Speaker 3: how tough should he be and how far can he

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Speaker 3: take it? Because I think Iran, like you can talk

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Speaker 3: about Syria, I think Iran is close to revolting once

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Speaker 3: the Ayatola is gone, and who knows what that country

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Speaker 3: may look like. Historically, Iran was actually pre seventy nine.

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Speaker 3: You may know better than me buck like, I mean,

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Speaker 3: for a Middle Eastern country, the people had pretty basic

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Speaker 3: human rights compared to what they have now.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was far more western eyes. Women were walking

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Speaker 2: around in high heels and skirts at University of Tehran

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Speaker 2: back in the sixties.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was a yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the the Islamist menace, you know, ran rough

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Speaker 2: shot with the Iranian Revolution and through the broader Middle East,

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Speaker 2: caused enormous suffering in a whole bunch of different countries.

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Speaker 2: So the question, though, becomes, does Israel strike the Iranian

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Speaker 2: nuclear reactors? This is something like the China going for

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Speaker 2: Taiwan conversation that we've had it for so long and

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Speaker 2: so many iterations of it that I think it's hard

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Speaker 2: to think that it's any different right now than it

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Speaker 2: has been in the past. Or rather, when it happens,

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Speaker 2: we'll have spoken about it so much that it will

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Speaker 2: feel like a surprise because it'll be the thousandth time

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Speaker 2: we've gone through the discussion.

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Speaker 1: But that would be a major change in the region.

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Speaker 2: And I think that the reality is if the Israelis

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Speaker 2: think they have the military capability for it, which people

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Speaker 2: assume these things, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would.

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Speaker 2: I would think the Israelis could pull that off, although

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Speaker 2: the Iranians have had a lot of time to harden

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Speaker 2: and hide their nuclear capabilities. I think the Trump would

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Speaker 2: back them on it if they decided to go for it.

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Speaker 2: And I think that the proxy armies that Iran has

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Speaker 2: been able to kind of wave around as a threat

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Speaker 2: against any Israeli action against the nuclear program, they are a.

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Speaker 1: Shadow of what they used to be.

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Speaker 2: So could we see that happen, Yeah, but that's what

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Speaker 2: we would call in the CIA or I think people

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Speaker 2: just say this in general in like risk analysis, right,

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Speaker 2: low probability, high impact. I think it's unlikely, but if

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Speaker 2: it did happen, it would be a really big deal.

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Speaker 2: The main thing that I think the Trump administration is

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Speaker 2: looking at when it comes to our military, at least

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Speaker 2: from what I'm hearing so far, is reforming it and

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Speaker 2: strengthening it internally and here and not using it as

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Speaker 2: some kind of a police and rebuilding foreign nation's force

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Speaker 2: in these particularly in these Muslim majority countries. So I

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Speaker 2: do not foresee them trying to get more involved in

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Speaker 2: the situation in Syria, although I will point out, you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes the enemy gets a vote in these things too.

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Speaker 2: And Trump was leading the fight against ISIS back in

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen as commander in chief. You have an entity

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Speaker 2: that's very similar to ISIS right now in ideology. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they would argue with that, but we'll see that has

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Speaker 2: just taken over the whole country of Syria. Right ISIS

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Speaker 2: had this corridor really in the east and up along

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Speaker 2: the border with Iraq in Syria. That's why it was

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Speaker 2: the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. Right now they've

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Speaker 2: got the entire country and the Israelis are hitting stockpiles

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Speaker 2: of munitions hoping that they don't fall into the hands

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty strong thing to do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the Israelis engaged in a real politique

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Speaker 2: of yeah, I don't trust that these guys aren't going

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Speaker 1: So this is the.

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Speaker 2: Troubling change in the dynamic over there. And I'll just

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Speaker 2: of people right now who are dancing in the streets

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Speaker 2: and firing off AK forty sevens in the air. But

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Speaker 2: throwing that out there, these things that tend to be

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Speaker 1: But we'll see.

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Speaker 2: But we want to focus in here on the Homeland

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Speaker 2: for this next few moments. We've got Donald Trump over

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Speaker 2: the weekend laying out some plans. And let me just

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Speaker 2: note I'm not the only one who is seeing it this.

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Speaker 1: Way, Clay.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are getting the sense

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Speaker 2: that the left is on its heels. The Democrats are

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Speaker 2: on their back feet in a way that I don't

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Speaker 2: know if we've ever seen them like this twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: they had that Trump, they had that Trump surprise win.

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Speaker 2: Right they were in a shock, in a frenzy and

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Speaker 2: crying and you know, panic rooms and everything else that

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Speaker 2: Democrats had cry rooms. But they immediately launched. You I

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Speaker 2: remember there were marches in the street. Not my President

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Speaker 2: was what they were screaming. And you know who streets

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Speaker 2: are streets and we are the resistance, and right away

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Speaker 2: they leapt into this mania of anti trump Ism. Right now,

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Speaker 2: there's almost a deafening silence. You know, there's kind of

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Speaker 2: just like, uh, you know, Morning Joe could be any

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Speaker 2: local news broadcast and a lot of kind of mid

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Speaker 2: tier markets across the country, and I'm just waiting for

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Speaker 2: them to be like, oh, like, look at this story

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Speaker 2: about the ducks that got lost on their way through

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Speaker 2: the storm train. You know, really kind of just this

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Speaker 2: is like silly, it's not really not really what it

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Speaker 2: was at all before.

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Speaker 1: And MSNBC, CNN are reeling.

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Speaker 2: Christopher Rufo, who is if there was going to be

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Speaker 2: a dei zar for the government, I think Rufo would

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Speaker 2: be the guy to get that job under Trump. Maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe that's an idea for Trump. But Rufo tweeted out.

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Speaker 2: Now is the time for a blitz through the institutions.

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Speaker 2: The left is exhausted, BLM is shattered, trans is imploding.

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Speaker 2: Trump has a mandate to abolish DEI, to fund left

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Speaker 2: wing racialism, and restore public authority over the public institutions.

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Speaker 2: The counter revolution starts now. I think he is absolutely

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00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: spot on with this play. And part of this is

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Speaker 2: to really try to do major things here, major things

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Speaker 2: to change our immigration enforcement.

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Speaker 1: Right, That's really what this comes down to. Trump said

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. And I got to say this is

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Speaker 1: this is even more.

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Speaker 2: Of a shot across the bow for the open borders

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Speaker 2: Democrats and the open borders Republicans than to build the

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Speaker 2: wall stuff. In some ways, Trump is saying it is

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Speaker 2: his plan to end birthright citizenship. This has cut eight

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Speaker 2: Let's hear what he said over the weekend to whatever

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Speaker 2: network Christen Welker works for play it.

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Speaker 11: Can you promised to end birthright citizenship on day one?

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Speaker 11: Is that still your plan?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely.

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Speaker 11: The fourteenth Amendment though, says that quote all persons born

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Speaker 11: in the United States are citizens. Can you get around

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Speaker 11: the fourteenth Amendment with.

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Speaker 9: Actually change, Maybe have to go back to the people.

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Speaker 9: But we have to end it with the only country

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Speaker 9: that has it.

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Speaker 11: You're an executive action, You're with.

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Speaker 9: The only country that has it. Do you know if

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Speaker 9: somebody sets a foot, just a foot, one foot, you

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Speaker 9: don't need to on our land. Congratulations, you are now

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Speaker 9: a citizen of the United States of Americillas. We're going

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Speaker 9: to end that because it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 11: Nor executive action.

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Speaker 9: Well, if we can't through executive action, I was going

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Speaker 9: to do it through executive action, but then we had

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Speaker 9: to fix COVID first. To be honest with you, we

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Speaker 9: have to end it.

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Speaker 2: Clay, I agree, it has to be ended. There's a

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Speaker 2: huge problem with the way the law is currently enforced

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Speaker 2: because or way it's set up. If you set up

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Speaker 2: a birth tourism hotel, and this is common in California,

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Speaker 2: and generally it's East Asians who have been engaged in

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Speaker 2: you know, for national Thest Asians who've been engaged in this,

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Speaker 2: that's a crime. If you are engaged in a sham marriage.

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Speaker 2: Also to try to get a green cort, that is

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Speaker 2: a crime. I mean, these are federal crimes. But if

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Speaker 2: you come here illegally have a child here, you are

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Speaker 2: rewarded with citizenship. This needs to be taken up by

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration, and this is going to be a

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Speaker 2: heck of a fight if they do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So let me go ahead and dive into my

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Speaker 3: lawyer analysis, because yes, Trump should take executive action on this,

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Speaker 3: and he should say that it is the opinion of

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Speaker 3: the United States government's executive, the President, that there is

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Speaker 3: no right to birthright citizenship, and it will go to

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court. That's the truth of where it would go.

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Speaker 3: Kristen Welker says, oh, the Fourteenth Amendment says yes, that's true.

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Speaker 3: But the Fourteenth Amendment was written to ensure that slaves

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Speaker 3: were citizens, so it has never been applied to what

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Speaker 3: you said, which is the illegal intrigue of someone to

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Speaker 3: then create a birthright citizenship. I don't know what the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court will say. No one knows what the Supreme

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Speaker 3: Court will say. But this has never been decided in

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Speaker 3: American law. And so I've said for a long time.

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Speaker 3: You can put up a wall, you can do whatever

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Speaker 3: you would like to try to restrict the flow of

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Speaker 3: illegal immigration. You're never gonna be able to completely stop it.

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Speaker 3: I just don't think you can because the incentive structure

877
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Speaker 3: is dual. One is you're going to get a situation

878
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Speaker 3: where everybody makes more money if they come into the

879
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Speaker 3: United States.

880
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 4: That's one incentive.

881
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 3: A second incentive is your kids can become citizens. If

882
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: we end birthright citizenship, that takes that away. Let me

883
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: also give you a little bit of how I would

884
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: analyze this as a Supreme Court justice. Do you know

885
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: why the idea of birthright citizenship even exists in the

886
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: United States? Trump is right that it's rare. You don't

887
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: become a citizen in China. You are about to have

888
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 3: a baby in April, Buck, you couldn't in the vast

889
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: majority of the country say oh, I'm an American, my

890
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: wife's an American. I want to put her on a

891
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: plane and send her to country. Why to become a

892
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Speaker 3: double citizen that baby, Because it's not permitted in most

893
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: of the rest of the country. The only reason birthright

894
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 3: citizenship exists in the United States today is a vestige,

895
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Speaker 3: a relic of the colonial era, where if you got

896
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Speaker 3: on a ship and you sent somebody from England, let's say,

897
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Speaker 3: to the colonies in the United States, the people who

898
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: moved here wanted to be sure that their kids were

899
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Speaker 3: still British subjects. That is, if you were going to

900
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Speaker 3: Charleston or Boston or New York City in sixteen eighty six,

901
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: you wanted to know that even if you had a family,

902
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 3: they could go back to England and they would all

903
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: still be British subjects. That's why today birthright citizenship is

904
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: mostly just in countries that were once European colonies. That's

905
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Speaker 3: why it's here, that's the vestige of it. What usually

906
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 3: exists and most of the rest of the world is

907
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 3: so called citizenship by blood, which is if your mom

908
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 3: or dad are citizens of a country and you are

909
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: born to them, you also then become a citizen of

910
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: that country, which I think everybody would agree with. No

911
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 3: matter where you're born, if you're born on a military

912
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: base in South Korea, you're still a citizen of the

913
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Speaker 3: United States.

914
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Speaker 1: Well, this is where subject to the jurisdiction thereof comes

915
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: into play and what the meaning of that is. And

916
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: when you look at they will oftentimes try to cite

917
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: the amendment that has to do with formally enslaved people

918
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: right fourteenth Amendment, and they'll say that's what Kristen Welker

919
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: tried to cite in that argument with Trump just now

920
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: that we've played this is always what they say. They say,

921
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: but this is very specifically.

922
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: The fourteenth Amendment was very specifically about making sure that

923
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: formerly enslaved people were citizens, full citizens under the.

924
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: Constitution of the United States.

925
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: It was not intended so that you could have, for example,

926
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Speaker 2: Chinese nationals.

927
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: And I'm not making this up. This is a thing

928
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: that happens.

929
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Speaker 2: I've brought this up before, but I think it illustrates

930
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 2: very well the games that are played. Chinese national, you know,

931
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: eight or nine months pregnant, goes to California, stay specifically

932
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Speaker 2: at a hotel there that's meant to let the Chinese

933
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: national have the baby there, gets you know, citizenship papers,

934
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Speaker 2: goes back to China with their kid, and then when

935
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Speaker 2: they want their kid to go to school at Berkeley,

936
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Speaker 2: they get to be a US citizen and getting in

937
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: state tuition. I mean, these this is absurd, right, I

938
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Speaker 2: mean the way that it works now also would be

939
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Speaker 2: if you're a foreign national and you have a kid

940
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Speaker 2: here in America and then you go back to your

941
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Speaker 2: foreign national country, if you're here on a tourist visa,

942
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: at least then you'd be legal. That person is an

943
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: American and so you go back and you raise them

944
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Speaker 2: somewhere else. But you know, you as as the visitor,

945
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 2: have a different nationality, never a US citizenship, and that

946
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: now your kid is an American. And then you get

947
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: to illegals where the huge incentive. I mean, if if

948
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: somebody robbed the bank, meaning they broke you know, they

949
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: broke the law. Somebody robbed the bank play and they

950
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: gave one hundred thousand dollars to their kid, and they're like, no, no, no,

951
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: but this is for my kid's college tuition.

952
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: They would still take the money back.

953
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 2: You know, you're not supposed to be able to profit

954
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: from breaking the law. And people who are illegal, who

955
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: have children in this country who are granted citizenship are

956
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: profiting from breaking the law. That is just a reality.

957
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: That is a fact. And this is why Trump taking

958
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: this on there. There is going to be a court

959
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: battle over it. There's going to be a lot of

960
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 2: you know, just freak out gnashing of teeth, all this stuff.

961
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: But ultimately it's time the American people faced up to

962
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: this question and we decide whether or not we're going

963
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: to allow the gaming of the system to continue in

964
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 2: this way.

965
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Speaker 3: I think it should be a day one executive order

966
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 3: that Trump puts into place. To your point on the

967
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 3: Fourteenth Amendment, I can't tell you what the Supreme Court's

968
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 3: got to say officially on this executive order, because I

969
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 3: don't know what the executive order is going to read.

970
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 3: I can tell you the Supreme Court is not going

971
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: to buy the Fourteenth Amendment argument, because the majority of

972
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court today would look at the decision made

973
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 3: in the Fourteenth Amendment and they would say, quite clearly,

974
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: the intent here was, as you said, and I said,

975
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: to deal with former slaves and make it clear that

976
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: they are full citizens of the United States. It was

977
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 3: not to determine how illegal immigrants who come to the

978
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 3: United States and have children should be treated. Because remember Buck,

979
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 3: in eighteen sixty five or eighteen sixty eight, whatever year

980
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: the Fourteenth Amendment ended up being ratified, I don't remember

981
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 3: off the top of my head.

982
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 4: You didn't have an illegal immigration problem.

983
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 3: Because it was really, really hard, by and large to

984
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 3: get to this country. So you couldn't just have ten

985
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: million people decide that they were going to come here

986
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: and meet The population was much less transient. You didn't

987
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 3: have the ability of people from one hundred and eighty

988
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 3: countries to get on an airplane, fly to Mexico and

989
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 3: walk across our southern border. So what's important here is

990
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: Trump merely taking the act turns this into a legitimate,

991
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 3: forthright political debate that everyone should be weighing in on.

992
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: And I happened to think, what do you think the

993
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: percentages would be of Americans that would oppose birthright citizenship

994
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: at this day and time. I think it's like sixty

995
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 3: forty because Americans don't like to see people taking advantage

996
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 3: of our laws. Yeah, I think that you would have

997
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: a majority of American support ending this process. I think

998
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 3: where it becomes a lot harder politically is on the

999
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: what about those I don't think you're going to be

1000
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 3: able to strip citizenship from people who have citizenship, don't.

1001
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening.

1002
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: Trump spoke about this when he talked about the Dream

1003
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: for example, and how he's going to sort of how

1004
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: he's going to treat families overall. This has cut ten.

1005
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 2: He got you gotta hear this. This is what Trump

1006
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: was saying about how this plays out. This has cut ten.

1007
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: Listen to the man himself.

1008
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 11: Four million families in America who have mixed immigration status.

1009
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 11: So I'm talking about parents who might be here illegally,

1010
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 11: but the kids are here legally.

1011
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 9: Your borders are talking about separation.

1012
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, there are two aspects to this. Your border

1013
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 11: Zara tom Hommet said, they can be deported together. Is

1014
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 11: that the plan?

1015
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 9: That way you keep the foot Well, I don't want

1016
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 9: to be breaking up families. So the only way you

1017
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 9: don't break up the family is you keep them together,

1018
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 9: and you have to send them all.

1019
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 11: Back, even kids who are here legally, Well, what.

1020
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 9: You're going to do if they want to stay with

1021
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 9: the father. Look, we have to have rules and regulations.

1022
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 9: You can always find something out, like you know, this

1023
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 9: doesn't work, that doesn't work. I'll tell you what's going

1024
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 9: to be horrible When we take a wonderful young woman

1025
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 9: who's with a criminal, and they show the woman and

1026
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 9: she could stay by the law, but they show the

1027
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 9: woman being taken out or they want her out, and

1028
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 9: your cameras are focused on her as she's crying, as

1029
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 9: she's being taken out of our country, and then the

1030
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 9: public turns against us. But we have to do our job.

1031
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 3: Trump's already telling you exactly how this is going to go. Yes,

1032
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: that's what's going to happen, Buck. They're going to find

1033
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: the three or four most egregious examples of deportation and

1034
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 3: they're going to run those as if it is representative

1035
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: of everybody that's being taken out of the country. This

1036
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: is where I think the media is the most dishonest.

1037
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 3: Is they find an anecdote that is not representative of

1038
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 3: the larger significant story, and they use the anecdote as

1039
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 3: a stand in to represent everything that's actually going on.

1040
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 3: This is to me, really how journalists wield their power.

1041
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 3: They use the anecdote which isn't representative of the larger issue,

1042
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 3: and they just drive at home so that you only

1043
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 3: know one or two names, but that that's supposed to

1044
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 3: be the representation for why Trump is so evil, And

1045
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: he's basically telling you in advance. Trump is exactly how

1046
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: this is going to play out. He knows that he's

1047
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 3: smart when it comes to media and understanding how the media.

1048
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 1: Moves, and this is if he follows through.

1049
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: Clay, I believe this is where the left rallies and

1050
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: on exactly what you're talking about. This is the It

1051
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: gives them the sense of immediacy, you know.

1052
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Speaker 3: Sanctimony, which is what they love moral superiority more than anything.

1053
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's what I think is going to be their

1054
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: rallying point.

1055
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Speaker 1: They're rallying cry. But we'll see how this one all goes.

1056
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1060
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