1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Hi. This is due to the virus. I'm recording from home, 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: so you may notice a difference in audio quality on 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: this episode of News World. I have been friends with 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: my guests today for thirty years. In a sense, we 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: both grew up together. I was elected Speaker of the 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: House in November nineteen ninety four, just as his new 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: radio career was starting to take off. We were drawn together. 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: We knew we shared the same values, values of freedom, integrity, 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: love for the Constitution, love for this great country of ours. 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: It is not a surprise to me that he's become 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: one of the most influential voices and conservative talk radio 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: and one of the most watch shows and Fox News. 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: He's joining me to talk about his new book, Live 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Free or Die, America and the World on the Brink. 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a profoundly important book for everyone to 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: read at this moment. And as he says, quote, I 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: wrote this book to sound and alarm as a warning 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: to my fellow patriots about the left of dying commitment 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: to turn in America into a land our parents, founders, 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: and friends could not recognize. I'm pleased to welcome my 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: guest and my good friend Sean handed the question. We're 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: asking talk radio it's effect on the political process. Why 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: you listened? When you started listening, what do you think 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: of this medium? Do you think it has any effect 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: on the political process? Saying someone to took what news radio, 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: wug st Am and FM. A vote for Biden is 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: a vote for Bernie and every extreme radical, socialist and 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: agenda item ever proposed liberalism on a massive scale failed 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: the working men and women in this country. I'll tell 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: you everybody in our industry today. Unfortunately, I said journalism 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: is dead. We have an information crisis in the country. 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that I'm right. We're less than a hundred 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: days away from the most important election are our lifetimes. 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: This will be one of the most fun podcast I've 35 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: ever done because the person who's my guest is somebody 36 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: that feels so close to I think of him as 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: a younger but dramatically more successful brother. We go back earlier. Now, 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: come on, Sean, I'm like, it's my podcast. I get 39 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: to do the introduction. You get to do the induction 40 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: on your radio show. So he has got a very 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: important new book out which I'm very excited by. Goes 42 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: on sale August fourth, Live free or Die America and 43 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: the World on the Brink, And I know that for 44 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: years he did not want to write another book. It's 45 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: a lot of work given three hours a dawn radio 46 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: plus a TV show. I mean, I you know, the 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: guy's pretty busy, So I know that this was important 48 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: to him, or it wouldn't have been it. However, before 49 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: we get into Live Free or Die America in the 50 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: World in the Brink, which I really recommend to you 51 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: to read, because I can tell you it hits every 52 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: single major thing I believe in. I first I want 53 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: to ask Sean Hannity, would you carry us back to 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: the primer time when we first got to know each other. Okay, 55 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: first of all, that was a great introduction. I want 56 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: people to know what you mean to me because I 57 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: started my radio journey in my twenties and I don't 58 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: know what happened. I got behind a radio microphone, the 59 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: light went on and it changed my life. And I 60 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: was terrible at it in the beginning. I got fired, 61 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: run out of town rightly, so so bad. And then 62 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: I got my first professional job in Huntsville, Alabama. And 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: this was nineteen nineties and to nineteen ninety two, and 64 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: then you came to Decatur, Alabama. I knew you were 65 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: coming to town. I knew who you were. You were 66 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: in the beginning of renewing American civilization, which, by the way, 67 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: our must view tapes audio tapes relevant today as they 68 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: were that and it became the foundation of the Contract 69 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: with America, and you leading the way to take back 70 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: the Congress for the first time in forty years. Anyway, 71 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm this young kid in this suit that didn't fit, 72 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: with a tie that looked horrible and a unibrow, and 73 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: we met in a holiday inn and we didn't have 74 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: the technology we have a radio today. We had this 75 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: old Marty system and that is like sending a signal 76 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: to a signal to another signal and then back to 77 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: the studio. We managed to get it on the air. 78 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: And there's a picture somewhere I knew. I saw it 79 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: a number of years ago, and I saved it and 80 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: I wanted to show it to you, and I got 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: to find it and put it online. You have changed 82 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: my life. You've impacted my thinking, You've made me a 83 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: better person, You've made me more knowledgeable. And it all 84 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: started in that holiday inn in Decatur, Alabama. Somewhere between 85 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: ninety and ninety two when you gave a speech We're 86 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: willing to help this young kid out, and you know, 87 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: probably sitting there, oh boy. And then it turned is 88 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: out that in nineteen ninety two, a mutual friend of ours, 89 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: Neil Boortz, moved from one talk radio station to another 90 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and I was called by audition for two 91 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: days and I got hired, and I moved to Atlanta, 92 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: which was your home city, and I moved there in 93 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two, and the intersection of our lives was 94 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: such that this was you formulating the Republican takeover of 95 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Congress for the first time. If people can imagine this 96 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: in forty years. It started with a series of educational 97 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: tapes known as Renewing American Civilization, and you mobilized a 98 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: national effort October twenty five years ago. It's crazy ways 99 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: of conservatism. In my political lifetime. One would be Reagan, 100 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: two would be The Contract, the New Gangrage Revolution, and 101 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: three would be what's going on right now with Donald Trump. 102 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: And a lot of our fellow Republican conservatives didn't think 103 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: Trump would govern as a conservative. You and I knew better. 104 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: We were right, and we put everything we had on 105 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: the line telling our friends he will do what he's saying, 106 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: and thank god he did. But anyway, it culminated with 107 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: a couple of things, and I wanted people to understand this. 108 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: So the night that you became Speaker of the House, 109 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: I remember seeing you that day. That night, I remember 110 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: walking with a huge entourage. They didn't have cable news 111 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: as we know it today, and you had a room 112 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: behind where I was m seeing the event for you. 113 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: That night when you became speaker, it was a great night. 114 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: Lost my voice and I didn't know I was living 115 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: through history at that time. There is video of it, 116 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: and I remember I learned so much watching you, and 117 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: you told me confidently that day, this is how many 118 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: seats were going to win. I don't remember the exact number, 119 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: and that's how many we want. And you had it 120 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: down to a science, and it was all ideas based, 121 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: solutions based, conservative based. And while I was in natural conservative, 122 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: inclined towards everything Reagan, even when I was in high 123 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: school and college, I gotta tell you, you transform my 124 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: life and then I get to be the MC the 125 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: night you become speaker, first time in forty years. Then 126 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: you become speaker, and then I get an opportunity to 127 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: a guest host a show on CMBC for Roger Els 128 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 1: who was running CNBC at the time, called Talk Live 129 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: on a Saturday night. You weren't doing interviews at the time. 130 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: You gave me a full hour, and I had done 131 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: one show for Roger, and I said, I think if 132 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: I asked New Kingrich, he might do me a favor 133 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: and do the show. And he goes, you can get 134 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: New King Rich. He says, if you can get him, 135 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: you got the hour, and you did the whole hour 136 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: with me, and I think we took calls. And since 137 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: then our paths have crossed so many times. We've lived 138 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: our lives together, parallel lives. You have pushed me intellectually 139 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: the areas that I never went to. I knew instinctively 140 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: conservatism was right, but reading your books, interviewing you over 141 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: the years, you're deep. What most people don't really know 142 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: is you're really a professor and historian at heart, more 143 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: than I think anything political, and your knowledge of history 144 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: to me is second to none. And you forced me 145 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: to go deeper. Every time I'm around you, with you 146 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: and all throughout these many years, and you talk about 147 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: whatever success I might have or not have in life, 148 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: and I'd never expected the ride that I've gotten on. 149 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: But you are so instrumental in helping me formulate who 150 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: I am today. And I frankly look at you as family, 151 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: and I love you for who you are as a person, 152 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: as a patriot, as a transformational historical figure in your 153 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: own right. And this is very meaningful to me to 154 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: do this interview with you, because I don't get to 155 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: tell you this very often. We've had dinners together where 156 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: I get to tell you anecdotally how all these things happen. 157 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: But I wanted to take the moment and just say 158 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: thank you for all you've done for me. You've been 159 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: an amazing inspirational figure and made me better at everything 160 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: that I do every day. People are never going to 161 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: believe I didn't pay you an enormous amount, though it's 162 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: one of the nicest compliments I've ever had, And of 163 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: course the feeling is mutual the times we've done stuff together, 164 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: whether it's fund to Yankee Stadium or oh yeah, the 165 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: thrill that night. First of all, being able to ask 166 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: you if you'd be willing to mc that evening, which 167 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: I knew was going to be amazing, but turned out 168 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: when we actually lived it out to be beyond imagining. 169 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: I remember you m Seed one time and my younger 170 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: daughter Jackie Cushman got into a roast of me and 171 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: you were the MC. And another time we had Lou 172 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Holtz and Joe Paterno, don't remind me about that. That 173 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: was the worst night of my life. Don't ever follow 174 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: Lou Holtz at a roast. Yeah, it was the worst moment. 175 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: I literally gave up after three minutes because he toured 176 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: the room up. Yeah, and everything that I had planned 177 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: to say, he had already said a thousand times better, 178 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: and I knew I would beat And I was like, okay. 179 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: I was wedding profusely because I knew I could not 180 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: match what he just did. And I did three emitted 181 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: to say by thank one of the worst pieces in 182 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: my life that night, oh man. One of the things 183 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: I most fondly remember is I had done a novel 184 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: about Pearl Harbor and you were doing it with Ali 185 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: North in Honolulu and yeah, you know, I remember us though, 186 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: which somehow your team had gotten permission for us to 187 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: broadcast from the Missouri and we were broadcasting with the 188 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: sunken Arizona behind us in the shop, and at one 189 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: point Pulin said, you know, the Missouri was our answer 190 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: to the Japanese sinking the Arizona. And I just thought 191 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: it was a really chilling, historic moment. And I'll always 192 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: look back finally on that particular experience which your team 193 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: made possible and which I think it was a great show. 194 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: There was a chilling thing to do that it was chilly, 195 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: especially it hit home for me and as you get older, 196 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: a little wiser. Right now of a twenty one and 197 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: eighteen year old, I appreciate my father and mother more 198 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: than ever. But as they grew up so poor and 199 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: my dad fought four years in the Pacific, grew up 200 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: very poor in bed sty. It was a big deal 201 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: that he got out of bed sty and I got 202 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: a fifty by one hundred lot in Franklin Square, Long Island. 203 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: My mom was a prison guard. Yeah, that was special 204 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: for me. I stand on the shoulders of my parents. 205 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: My four grandparents came from Ireland. We all do. We 206 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: all have a story to tell. And I'll tell you 207 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: one other moment that really made a difference in my life. 208 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: Going back to the night you were speaker. I don't 209 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: know if you remember this. So you're in a room 210 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: with ABCNBCCBS and I assumed the New York Times and 211 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: everybody else, and incomes this young talk show host. I 212 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: just said, hey, mister speaker, and the whole room it 213 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: was like ef luttons. They get quiet, They're like, who 214 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: is this little kid that just walked into the room. 215 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: I said, would you mind doing my radio show tomorrow 216 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: and being who you are? He said absolutely, I'd love to, 217 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: and you called in the next day. I barely had 218 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: a voice that day, and that's who you were to me. 219 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: You didn't say no when you are now to speak, 220 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: reluctive of the House of Representatives, third in line for 221 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: the presidency. I don't know if you know this. By 222 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: the way, I did my first talk radio show in 223 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: the summer of nineteen sixty. Wow. I've been on and 224 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: off doing this a long time. And part of what 225 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: I admired about you coming along was that Russia had 226 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: really created modern conservative talk radio. Other people have done 227 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: talk radio, but not with the scale of impact. Russia 228 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: had been a big part of our ability to emerge 229 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: in the later eighties only nineties. I could see in 230 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: you the kind of growth potential to be in that league. 231 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: And it's actually true. You may think I'm just pandering 232 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: to you, but I've been interviewed a fair amount of 233 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: my career. You had a serious about trying to learn 234 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: and a seriousness about actually following the conversation. You just 235 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: didn't show up with three questions or whatever, but you 236 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: really wanted to engage. Most people make a living off 237 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: of the five things they learn that they just keep 238 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: maniacally repeating. But you actually evolved when you're still involving. 239 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: You're extraordinarily successful. Your total audience between radio and TV 240 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: is astounding. You are a very close friend of the 241 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: President of the States, and yet I can tell you 242 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: any two or three week period, I see a few 243 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: things change, a few things you're thinking about differently, And 244 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: I watch you the sort of the self taught University 245 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: of Sean Hannity, and the course of a year you 246 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: interview so many people. You have so much talent that 247 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: comes through your two shows. They're just listening to the 248 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: right people, asking the right questions. You get literally a 249 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: graduate education just being Sean Hannity. Well, you're very kind. 250 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: I'll take the compliment that I don't think I deserve, 251 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: but I'll only say this, I'm always looking to get better. First, 252 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: let me backtrack and say thank God for Russia, Lambach 253 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: and Rush. He stood in front of a forest, if 254 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: you will. When he started nationally, they're like two hundred 255 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: talk radio stations in the country. It's now the number 256 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: one format and radio. There are thousands AM and FM 257 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: talk radio stations all across the country. Saved the AM 258 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: band and frankly in many cities now saving the FM band. 259 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: Our mutual friend Neil Boorts called him the Babe Ruth 260 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: of talk radio. Nobody matches the Babe. But he forged 261 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: that path. He paid a heavy price for it. He 262 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: knocked down every tree and then all of us that 263 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: came after him benefited from the path that he forged. 264 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: And it wasn't easy, and he became a national target 265 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: almost immediately. Nobody had heard this before. I mean that's 266 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight when he syndicated. I started in radio, 267 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: and I think eighty seven the first time I did 268 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: a radio show and the beauty of Rushes. He forged 269 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: a path for all of us. But if you're asking 270 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: me if I would ever be on six hundred and 271 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: thirty stations, and in my twenty fifth year at Fox Indicatur, 272 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: Alabama and that holiday, in that day, I would have 273 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: looked at you and said, Okay, what are you smoking? 274 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: But I've been blessed beyond what I think I ever deserved. 275 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: I believe that I always think I'm going to get fired. 276 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: I think I've done my last show every day. Have 277 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: you ever told me I would do a twenty two 278 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: minute of opening monologue nights on TV and it would 279 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: actually do well. I wouldn't have believed it, but it 280 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: happened organically, and I do seek growth every day. You've 281 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: always talked your whole life about lifelong learning. I can 282 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: go through the different phases of New Gingrich historically Toddler 283 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: and Demings and all these great people that you would 284 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: make people aware of. You are brimming with ideas. You're 285 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: on a whole other level. I acknowledge I'm not there. 286 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: And if I have any ability, I think it's recognize 287 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: very small people like yourself and pay very close attention 288 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: to what you're saying and who you're reading and what 289 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: you're writing. And I read all your books and I 290 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: think I'm a better person because of it. I love 291 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: this country so much, and you know, to go back 292 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: to the book part of it. I didn't write a 293 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: book for ten years because I hate writing. It is 294 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: painful to me. It is too much work. Where on 295 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: radio and TV I say it it's done, as imperfect 296 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: as it is, it is finished. When you write a book, 297 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: obviously you got to come up with your chapters. You 298 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: got to come up with a concept where you want 299 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: to go, where you want to take it, and it's 300 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: ever evolving, and a first draft is just that, a 301 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: first draft. Then you gotta sand it, primate, polish it it, 302 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: stand it again, and it's just a much more arduous process. 303 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: For me, I find it difficult. Although I'm writing a 304 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: monologue every night on TV, half of it is written 305 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: and the other half of extemporaneous and had lived. All 306 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: of radios had lived for me, this interviews had lived, 307 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: and I prefer that format better. But the moment to 308 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: me is this is all hands on deck. This is it. 309 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: Reagan said that freedom is but one generation away from extinction. Well, 310 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: what Joe Biden stated agenda is if it's even going 311 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: to be Joe Biden, does he have the mental alertness 312 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: to make all these decisions in many ways. I find 313 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: he's influenced by way too many people, and he's a 314 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: shadow and a ghost of a candidate hiding in his basement. 315 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: But he's embraced in the last two weeks literally plagiarizing 316 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: Bolshevik Berney's economic plan. He's pledged trillions of dollars to 317 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: AOC's Green New Deal, He's adopted Beto O'Rourkes gun policy 318 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: of confiscation, actually said it. And then you've got Pelosi, Schumer, 319 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: and Biden one hundred and twenty five years of combined 320 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: Washington swamp failure. And if their stated plans are implemented, 321 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: this greed new Deal, lemonade, oil and gas, Biden's on 322 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: board with it, the lifeblood of the world's economy. Everything 323 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: is going to be free. And I do have a 324 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: historic chapter in the book about well one, what makes 325 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: America great as Franklin set a republic if you can 326 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: keep it. But I have a whole chapter on socialism, 327 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: a history of failure. Everything that they're saying has been 328 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: tried before. Every promise they're making is unsustainable. My argument 329 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: is simple, if you think that you're going to have 330 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: this cradle to grave utopia that Bolshevikbernie AOC and Biden 331 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: are promising. You let me ask. You have these cities 332 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: that have been run for decades by liberal Democrats, like 333 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: New York City and Chicago and Seattle and Portland and 334 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Again, they all have one thing in common, 335 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: Liberal Democrats their policies for decades. Have they been successful 336 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: in securing safety and security and law and order for 337 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: the people in their cities? The answers, obviously no. If 338 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: we believe that rights are God given that were endowed 339 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 1: by a creator, certain inalienable rights. I actually remember it. 340 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: Joe thinks, you know, endowed by you know the thing 341 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: to be self evidence, all men and women creating you 342 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: know the thing? Yeah, God, the creator of everything but life, liberty, 343 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: and the pursuit of happiness. Mister speaker, you tell me 344 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: how do you pursue happiness If you can't go to 345 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: your grandmother's house in Chicago on the fourth of July 346 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: and not get shot. How can you pursue happiness? A 347 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: seven year old little girl lost their life. How can 348 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: you pursue happiness if your mom makes a wrong turn 349 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: and you're an eight year old little girl in Atlanta 350 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: and goes into the autonomous zone there where the Wendy's 351 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: and the Raychard Brooks incident took place. And they had 352 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: guys a week and a half earlier. I was showing 353 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: them with long rifles and air of fifteens and they 354 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: took over what to city blocks? How do you pursue 355 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: happiness if you're in an autonomous zone? Chop Chaz Summer 356 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: of Love Zone and I interviewed almost for a full hour. 357 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: Horrors Lorenzo Anderson Senor his nineteen year old son was 358 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: killed in that Summer of Love zone. How do you 359 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: pursue happiness when every one of these cities have another 360 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: thing in common their government? Education has failed spectacularly. If 361 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: you want to deny kids a ladder to success, just 362 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: robbed him of education, because it's the foundation of all success. 363 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: But if you don't water and offer sunlight and nurture 364 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: every child with safety, security and education, they're shut out. 365 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: For those that would put their hope in the socialist utopia, 366 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: which is everything is free, free education, government, job, government wage, 367 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: government vacation, government, healthy food, government healthcare, government retirement. Okay, well, 368 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: how did that Obamacare thing work out? Because the promises 369 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: were clear keep your doctor, keep your plan, and every 370 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: family's going to save on average twenty five hundred dollars 371 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: a year. Well, millions lost their doctors, millions lost their 372 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: plans on average in America when out paying two hundred 373 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: percent more for healthcare. And there's almost forty percent of 374 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: the United States that has only one Obama Biden Care 375 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: exchange option. How did that government program work out for you? 376 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: We're social Security headed in the future, so it's bankruptcy. 377 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: Where's medicare headed bankruptcy? What has government done well and 378 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: for me? If you heed the admonition of Thomas paying 379 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 1: the great pamphlet in seventeen seventy six Common Sense, what 380 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: did he say? He said, where the guides and dictates 381 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: of human conscience irresistibly obeyed, we'd have no need for 382 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: any other lawgiver. That not being the case. Government's reformed 383 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: to protect people, and governments and its best state are 384 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: but necessary evil in its worst state, an intolerable one. 385 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: You are the great historian now and his revolution, the 386 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: Bolshevik Revolution? How socialism working out in Cuba and Venezuela, 387 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: or what happened to Finland's government that was dismantled and 388 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: the promises of socialism there that is often cited. It 389 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: sounds good, I guess psychologically it's reassuring to people to 390 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: say you'll never have to worry about a single thing 391 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: in your life because your government's going to take care 392 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: of you. These are false promises. You don't need an 393 00:22:53,880 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: MIT diploma to figure out that mathematically, ninety two trillion 394 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: dollars in ten years of the Green New Deal, fifty 395 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: two trillion Medicare for all, or Obamacare on steroids, we'll 396 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: only take in form four and a half trillion dollars 397 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: a year. That there's no way these promises can be fulfilled. 398 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: They know it. It's about power, it's not really about people, 399 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: because it seems like and I'll give you another example, 400 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: in all those liberal cities where the violence is so 401 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: bad and the educational system is so bad that these 402 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: mayors and governors seem more concerned about taking shots at 403 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump than they seem to be about protecting the 404 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: innocent men, women and children that are being shot and 405 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: dying in their cities. And I'll take it a step further. 406 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: You want to know how bad education has gotten some 407 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: cities run by liberal Democrats for decades per capita. The 408 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: city of Baltimore the third highest spending the city in 409 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: the country. First student on education, what percentage does your 410 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 1: audience think of thirteen separate high schools? What percentage of 411 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: high school students in those public high schools are proficient 412 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: and mass? The answer, I hate to tell you is 413 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: not a single child, not one, and very few. In reading, 414 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: a friend of mine, Barry Farmer often said, and there's 415 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: never been a country in the history of mankind there's 416 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: accumulated more power and abused it less than the United 417 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: States of America. And then I add to that, but 418 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: also use that power to advance the human condition. And 419 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: the only reason that America gets to share innovation creation 420 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: is capitalism, free market, risk reward, entrepreneurialism. That's because we 421 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: live free. I know it might be appealing to people 422 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: to hear that they're going to take care of your 423 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: every need, but the problem is we're taking away the 424 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: natural stress of life, not uncontrollable stress that makes every 425 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: human being dig down deep into their heart and soul 426 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: out of necessity and says, well, what do I want 427 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: to do with my life? Why am I here on 428 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: this earth? What talent did God give me? But you 429 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: can't have any of that without the fundamentals of law 430 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: and order, safety, security, and education. I know that's a 431 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: long intro to my book, but that's basically it. And 432 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: I learned a lot of this from you. One of 433 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: the things I want to focus in on because I 434 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: watch you every day on your show dealing with these 435 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: kinds of issues head on, bringing in guests to really 436 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: cut through the bologna. And one of the things you 437 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: talk about is something which I'm fascinating because I think 438 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: it's so totally crazy, and that's slavery reparations. And you 439 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: have a very strong section on that in your book. 440 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: If you in this comment set about how you're unthinking 441 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: has evolved and how you come down on this. To me, 442 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: what matters more than anything is success. We've got to 443 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: ask ourselves if we agree on this premise that we're 444 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: all created by God and rights come from God and 445 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: talent come from God. And I just believe that people 446 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: have that talent and have that ability. You know, I 447 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: know there's this whole movement to trash our founders and 448 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: our framers. Yes, we're an imperfect people, as all people 449 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: on earth are, but the beauty of our system is 450 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: that we have a constitutional republic where we can write 451 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: wrongs and correct injustices. It's amazing how many of our 452 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: framers and founders wanted to rid us of slavery at 453 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: the time they put in place in the imperfect system 454 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: with the ability to write wrongs correct injustices. You're the 455 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: greatest historian I know on the Civil War. I don't 456 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: know anybody that knows more about the Civil War than 457 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: you do. Now. The Civil Wars bought over a lot 458 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: of reasons. One of the big ones was slavery. And 459 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: I believe reparations divide the country. I think people would 460 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: be shocked. I actually put this in the beginning of 461 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: that section of the book. It was only a few 462 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: years ago that Hillary and Barack Obama they were against 463 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: slavery reparations. That might shock people, and I think for 464 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: the right reasons. But now it shows how far left 465 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party has gone. And I'll say this. We 466 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: can compare records. Now, Joe Biden was fifty one years 467 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: in the swamp, Biden Pelosi, Schumer one hundred and twenty 468 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: five years swamp failure. What's Obama Biden's record after eight years? 469 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: This is it? I said it every night and every 470 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: day on purpose. I wanted a tattoo this into every 471 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: voter's brain that would hear my voice. Thirteen million more 472 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: Americans on food stamps, eight million more in poverty, the 473 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: lowest labor participation rate since the seventies, the lowest homeownership 474 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: rate in fifty one years, the worst recovery since the forties. 475 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: And they accumulated more debt than all forty three presidents 476 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: before them combined. And they didn't have the worst pandemics 477 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighteen That is their record. Donald Trump's 478 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: record pre coronavirus. He shattered every unemployment for minorities in 479 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: the history of the country, record low after record low 480 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: unemployment for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in 481 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: the workplace, youth unemployment, African American youth unemployment. How did 482 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: he do it well? He did the things that you 483 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: and I believed in our whole life. He cut taxes, finally, 484 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: somebody cut the red tape, got rid of all the 485 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: burdensome regulation, and that created a thriving business atmosphere. It 486 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: was very much what similar to Reagan. But I'd argue, 487 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: even on steroids in terms of ending bureaucratic regulation and 488 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: then also controlling the borders. That was important. And I 489 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: think that he's been a transformational historical figure and he 490 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: did it boldly, and he did it when even people 491 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: at his own party doubted it could be done. To me, 492 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: that the type of leadership the country in the world needs. 493 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: And so the answer to me is a rising tide 494 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: lifts all boats. Jack Kemp repeated a former President Kennedy 495 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: talked about it, and that is an economic environment that 496 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: creates opportunities. Those manufacturing jobs that Biden and Obama said 497 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: ain't coming back, they came back, and now they're going 498 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: to come back many fold based on what China did 499 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: to the entire world with coronavirus. They lie to the 500 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: world and look at the disaster. So I hope that 501 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: answered your question and reparations, the answer is believing in 502 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: every individual giving them safety, security that they do deserve. 503 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: And once we've filled that obligation, then every American has 504 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: the responsibility to find their love and their talent and 505 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: their passion in life. Everyone that I know that does 506 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 1: certain jobs they have a calling. I have no idea 507 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: why this crazy red light went on in my studio 508 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: one day and I had this passion to do radio 509 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: and I listened to it as a kid, and it 510 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: just change my life. I had no idea what was 511 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: taking me, but I worked for free. In My first 512 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: paid job in Huntsville was nineteen grand a year. I 513 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: took a pay cut. I had a business at the 514 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: time with those fundamentals of safety, security and education right, 515 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: which we can do. We're the United States. Then there's 516 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: no limit to American untapped greatness that have in this country. 517 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: That is every man, woman, in showel the people make 518 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: America great. You know. That's why the victory of Donald 519 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: Trump shocked the world, because the elitist and the swamp 520 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: they didn't think he had a chance in hell of winning. 521 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: You and I believe he could win, and we stated so. 522 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: There were not many of us out there that are 523 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: conservative telling our fellow conservatives he will govern conservatively. I 524 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: said it because I knew it was true, because I 525 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: knew him for twenty five years. Not having that political background, 526 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: to me, was a huge asset, and it ended up 527 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: being a liability because I don't think he stood just 528 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: how dark Washington can be. And we were main friends 529 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: after you were speaker. You wrote your book about lessons 530 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: to learn the hard way, and they put you through 531 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: hell unfairly most of the time, but you fought, and 532 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: you change the country, and you're a transformative historical figure. 533 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: By the way, I just want to affirm, because I 534 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: was there, I think without you, it's very likely that 535 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: Trump would not have won. Both your voice and your advice. 536 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: Because of your personal friendship. You had a greater capacity 537 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: to tell him what he needed to hear than almost 538 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,479 Speaker 1: anybody I knew, and you still do those day. And 539 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: so I think in that sense, just as in my 540 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: own case and in Reagan's case, transformative figures only succeed 541 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: if they're surrounded by people who help them and are 542 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: honest with them. No one person can achieve the skill 543 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about. In the case of Trump, you were 544 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: central to the ability to pull this off. I need 545 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: to confirmed or deny I ever talk to anybody, says 546 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: my answer on the short side of that, But I 547 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: will tell you this the forces of DC which you 548 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: lived through once in the middle of your being speaker, 549 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: I remember asking you how do you put up with this? 550 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: Before you became speaker officially, he won the election, the 551 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: Gingrich that stole Christmas and Time and Newsweek that actually 552 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: were real magazines back in the day, and all of 553 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: these attacks. And I remember, I don't know, maybe a 554 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: couple of years into you being speaker, you saying to 555 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: me something that's stuck with me. And I remember the sacrifice, 556 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: the personal sacrifice that nobody's gonna ever pay attention to. 557 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: And you said, I have in the central part of 558 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: my brain a part of me that is always exhausted. 559 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: I never thought I would understand that. I understand it now, 560 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: but you did it because this is your passion and 561 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: your belief and you were right. Reagan was right, the 562 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: third Wave is right. But the forces, as bad as 563 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: they were against you, and as bad as they were 564 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: against Reagan, I've never seen anything like what they're doing 565 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: to this man. It's every second, every minute, every hour 566 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: of every day. You once set on my radio show 567 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: and TV show, you reiterated it that they wake up 568 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: in the morning. How can I hate Trump today? It's true. 569 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: Look at what they put the country through with a conspiracy, theories, lies, smear, slander, besmirchment, character, assassination, libel. 570 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: You know about a hoax with Russia and collusion that 571 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: never existed. And my good friend who teaches civil or 572 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: history that Prinston wrote me one time and he said 573 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: that he did not believe anybody had been attacked like Trump. 574 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: Alan Guoso was a great destory, he writes me in 575 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: December of two thousand and sixteen, and he said, not 576 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: since the South Carolina slave newspapers vilified Abraham Lincoln has 577 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: anybody had the kind of personal assault that Trump is 578 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: living through. And it's absolutely true. You picked one of 579 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: my favorite Revolutionary War era phrases to be the beginning 580 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: of your book, title Live Free or dot which is 581 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: from New Hampshire. I'm just curious why did you pick it. 582 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: What were you trying to say to the American people 583 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: by going back and pulling up a Revolutionary War I 584 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: think it was a tribute at an event after the 585 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: war on behalf of the Senior General produced by New Hampshire, 586 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: because that's the moment. Actually, the working title was always 587 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: Live Free or America Dice, and I ended up putting 588 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: in Latin at the very bottom of the book live 589 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: Free or America Dies. But the official title Live Free 590 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: or Die America in the World on the Brink, But 591 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: in Latin. It says live free or America dies. You 592 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: mentioned the mob in the media, and they are a mob. 593 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: They are state run television. They are every second, minute, 594 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: hour of every day. They hate this president. Like you said, 595 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: they wake up hating this president. How can I hate 596 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: him today? How can I destroy him today? Never giving 597 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: him credit? I often say, if he cured cancer, Donald Trump, 598 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: they want to impeach him for curing cancer. That's how 599 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: bad it has gotten. And you live through hell, and 600 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: I think it's hell on steroids and human growth hormone 601 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: for him. And he has the biggest campaign contribution ever 602 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: in the history of any presidential election. He's got the 603 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: ninety nine of the medium echoing all things democratic, socialist, 604 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: radical socialist. And we saw this in the hearings with 605 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: Bill Barr. They wouldn't let the man get a word 606 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: in edgewise. It was an all day, NonStop campaign commercial 607 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden. That's a force against Donald Trump. Now. 608 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen. We're in the 609 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: one hundred day countdown now, and but I'll say this, 610 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: it would be the greatest vindication of any candidate in history. 611 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: If that mob in the media has to choke on 612 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: the words. We can now project that Donald J. Trump 613 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: has been reelected the forty fifth president of the United States. 614 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: Now well, I believe that can happen app so lootly. 615 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: Been watching the president closely the last couple of weeks 616 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: he has dialed in. I know him. I've known him 617 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: for twenty five some on years. I know when he's 618 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: dialed in and it's game time. And Donald Trump when 619 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,479 Speaker 1: he says he's not sick of winning, he's not sick 620 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: of winning. Donald Trump is in this to win it. 621 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: Maybe some people don't like his style. I think he 622 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,479 Speaker 1: said it really well in a town hall with Brett 623 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: and Martha when he said that I wouldn't be here 624 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: if I don't fight. People got to remember that the 625 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: reason we got new trade deals with China and our 626 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: Western European allies of Mexico and Canada, the reason that 627 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: he got the money to build the wall and I'll 628 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,919 Speaker 1: have what I think four than fifty miles a new 629 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: wall by the end of this year, is because he 630 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: never gave up. Congress put every obstacle. They were never 631 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: going to help him, even though they believed in it. 632 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: Democrats did, just like Obama, and Hillary were against reparations. 633 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: They were all for the wall in Obama's second term. 634 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: Now Trump wants it there against it. This is a 635 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: very winnable election, but you know elections better than anybody. 636 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: To win an election as a Conserva or Republican in 637 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: this case, you have to run the table. Florida is 638 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: a purple state. You gotta get Floridas have to must win, 639 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: Georgia must win, North Carolina must win, Iowa must win. 640 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: You can't win. No Republicans won the presidency without the 641 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: Buckeye State, without Ohio. Then you got to pick off 642 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. Maybe Minnesota isn't play. You gotta 643 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: hold Arizona, and you gotta make a play for Nevada 644 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: and New Mexico. You gotta look to win New Hampshire, 645 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 1: and you gotta look at Maiden's second congressional district. Ape matters, 646 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: So every vote is gonna matter. I think if you're 647 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: asking about where live Free and I come from, do 648 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: I really believe this is it? Yeah? I do. I 649 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: think if we go down the path the stated policies 650 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: of this party at this time, the leader is now adopted, 651 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: I believe that it's irreparable harm at the America we 652 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: grew up in, our parents grew up in that we 653 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: want our kids to grow up and will become unrecognizable. 654 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: Socialism always ends in failure. You know that better than anybody. 655 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: First of all, I agree with you. I think this 656 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: is a very winnable election. My personal hunches that Trump 657 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: will win it, and we'll win it decisively enough that 658 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,959 Speaker 1: in fact, we will pick up the House and Kevin 659 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: mccarfield the Speaker, and we'll actually pick up a net 660 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: of two in the Senate. But having saidtled that, I 661 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: want to close this on a somewhat different note, which 662 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: is it hit me while we were talking a little 663 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: while ago, this is so different than whatever you left. 664 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: Winner thinks of you. The very idea that you would 665 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: have your title in Latin at the bottom of the page, 666 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: I think is just fascinating. Why would you do that? 667 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: You know? I love every article ever written about Sean 668 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: Hannity starts with he's a college dropout. I had twelve 669 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: years of Catholic education. My four years of high school 670 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: were in a seminary, only a hundred students starting out 671 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: in the class, and and we studied theology. We went 672 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 1: to mass daily and we studied Latin. I was never 673 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: good at it because I didn't want to work hard 674 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: at it. I paid every penny of college myself because 675 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: I knew my parents didn't have the money, and I 676 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: had work since I was eight years old as a 677 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: paper boy. I was a dishwasher of every Friday, Saturday, 678 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: Sunday night at twelve, a cook. I've gone through my history, 679 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: I've done all my life. I saved my money and 680 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: I spent a year at a Delphi University in Long Island, 681 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: actually became a deanslist student, went to MYU, transferred there 682 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 1: for a year, then went to a school of Mohode 683 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: Island for a period of time. And the reason I 684 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: didn't finish college is I didn't have the money, That's 685 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: the simple answer. And I was not going to ask 686 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: my parents, and it was unconscionable to me to think 687 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: that the government would pay for it. The next step 688 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: took you all the way to Santa Barbara, didn't it? Well? Yeah, 689 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: And it was interesting because I was a house painter, 690 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: and then I learned how to hang all paper. And 691 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: then I became a contractor and fell off a roof 692 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: nearly two and half stories and busted up all my teeth. 693 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: I was the only one plane hockey grown up that 694 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: never lost any teeth. But I lost him that day 695 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: and I dislocated my arm, broke my radial head. I 696 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: had no health insurance. The guy wanted to operate. I 697 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: said nope, and I got a guy in a shipyard 698 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: to give me a job with a busted Army didn't 699 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: know he's busted. He sees me three days later, what's 700 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: wrong with your arm? I tell him, I said, I 701 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: need the money. He had literally saved my life because 702 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: I had two hundred bucks in the bank at the time, 703 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: and that's where I started. And that defines me. My 704 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: passion is real. I got an education. I'm reading the 705 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: equivalent of a textbook a day in terms of news, information, etc. 706 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm interviewing the best in the brightest in the country 707 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: every day. That's an education. I've had you as a mentor. 708 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: That has been a profound education. I actually went back 709 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: not that long ago, and I had to find VHS 710 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: tapes online of renewing American civilization because I want to 711 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: go back and watched them. And I had to get 712 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: an old vahest player to play him, and somebody set 713 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: it up for me because it wouldn't play so to me, 714 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: I actually take a little bit of pride when people 715 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: say he dropped out of College's meaningless to me. I 716 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: judge somebody was a person. And my religious background, I 717 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: was an incorrigible child, and every one of my teachers 718 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: would tell you that and probably the last person they 719 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: ever thought would ever have any success in life. But 720 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: their message got through. I do have a conscience, I 721 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: do have a soul, and I do have a belief 722 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: in God that is strong earth than it's ever been. 723 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: And I do believe in this country, and I do 724 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,760 Speaker 1: believe that we have an obligation to protect the great 725 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: inheritance that was given us. My father died six months 726 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,919 Speaker 1: after I started at Fox. I started in October ninety six. 727 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: He died in March of ninety seven. And you know, 728 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: I've been gone sixteen years. Five years, Rhode Island in 729 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: five years, California, two years, Alabama four years. I didn't 730 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: get home very often either, I regret it. And you know, 731 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: he waited tables on weekends. He was a family corp 732 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: probation guy. My mom a prison guard, and I remember 733 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: my dad. I got him a satellite this wee could 734 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: watch Hannity and Combs at the time. One day he 735 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: goes to be where did this all come from? And 736 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: I said that you used to yell at me to 737 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: turn down the radio every night because I wasn't watching TV. 738 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: I was listening to talk radio. The real pioneers that 739 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: started talk radio. I stand on their shoulders. My father 740 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: had a horrible life, grew up poor, depression, His mom 741 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: died weeks after he was born from complications of childbirths. 742 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 1: He went from family member to family member because his 743 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: father literally came from Ireland, had no money, was working 744 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: night and day for a little to no money, really 745 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: really poor. And then he goes fights in World War Two. 746 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: And I stand on the shoulders of those grandparents and parents, 747 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: and I say this to my kids, and their eyes 748 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: were all over. But one day I know, like me, 749 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate them then, but I appreciate them now. 750 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: And I think kids will look back and they'll say, yeah, 751 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: maybe dad wasn't so dumb after all. But our hope 752 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: is to save the country for them and our grandkids. 753 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,720 Speaker 1: You have wonderful grandkids, and you have dedicated your life 754 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: to all things freedom, liberty, and American greatness and exceptionalism. 755 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: We have an obligation, I think, to fight with all 756 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: our heart, mind, body and soul to make the media 757 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: mob choke on the words that I mentioned earlier. That 758 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: we can now project that he's been reelected, and I 759 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: hope that happens. I think it can happen as well. 760 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: I like to look at it though. You got to 761 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: act like you're six points down, you have no timeouts, 762 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: you're on your own twenty. You got to march down 763 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: the field eighty yards, cross the plane and kick the 764 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: extra point to win. If everyone has that sense of urgency, 765 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: then America will live free for the next generation, and 766 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: then they'll have to fight for it as well. That's 767 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: exactly thank you. I want to remind everybody who is 768 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,919 Speaker 1: listening to our podcast as together that they should get 769 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: Live Free or Die. It's a very important book that 770 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: really helps explain what's at stake in this year's election. 771 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: Once again, Sean has done a tremendous contribution to America, 772 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: not just a conservatism, but to all of America. And 773 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: I think Live Free or Die as a book which 774 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: is going to be around a long time. You know 775 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: which historians are something going to refer to as part 776 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: of how Donald Trump ruined the night for the media 777 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: and one re election once again. As a speaker, You've 778 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: transformed my life. Thank you. You're a patriot, You're a 779 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: great American. You've been a mentor, a friend, and I 780 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: consider your family and we need your voice more than ever. 781 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. Thank you to 782 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: my guest and my good friend, Sean Hannity. You can 783 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: read more about his new book, Live Free or Die 784 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: America and the world of the brand on our show 785 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: page at newsworld dot com. Newsworld is produced by ginger 786 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: Sweet sixty, iHeartMedia, our executive producers Debbie Myers, and our 787 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: producers Darnsey Slope. You all work for. The show was 788 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: created by Steve Special thanks to the team at Gingwish 789 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: three sixty. Please email me with your questions at Gingwish 790 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: three sixty dot com slash questions. I'll answer them in 791 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 1: future episodes. If you've been enjoying news World, I hope 792 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: you'll go to Apple Podcasts and both rate us with 793 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: five stars and give us a review so others can 794 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: learn what it's all about. On the next episode, of 795 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: news Wool. The National States of Health and Maderna have 796 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: announced they're moving to Phase three clinical trials for COVID 797 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: nineteen vaccine. We'll look at the science behind developing the vaccine, 798 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: a timeline for its release, and what the vaccine could 799 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: mean to help contain the virus and restore life as 800 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: we once knew. I'm new Gangwish. This is News World.