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Speaker 2: Because I think both of us we love sports and

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Speaker 1: So last night that's the down the answer hard. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: Thought about this because we both loved the NBA, and

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Speaker 2: But I thought about this, it could help. So it

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Speaker 2: takes a long time to become an icon. I would

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Speaker 2: argue Lebron was not a true global icon until he

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Speaker 2: was humiliated in Miami and then came back and won

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Speaker 2: his first and that was really this, this crescendo it

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Speaker 2: It was when he joined the Stars, he lost and

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Speaker 1: And then almost got to a different level when he

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Speaker 2: And so I thought, so what the NBA has always

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Speaker 1: Steph. Steph wasn't iconic when he won his first title

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Speaker 2: So I was thinking leagues do better when they have,

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Speaker 2: When you ask Lebron to have a seven gamer and

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Speaker 2: He cannot do it twenty one times in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Is that if you pulled back and people say, well

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Speaker 2: what if stars would lose? Well, stars lose in March Madness.

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Speaker 2: March Madness gets exceptional ratings because their sudden death is

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Speaker 2: that you went to a three game series and another

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Speaker 1: You'd start with two games home floor, whatever you had.

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Speaker 2: To do, it would ensure that your biggest stars as

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Speaker 2: be amazing. Injuries happen as you get older, lethargy, you

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Speaker 2: and I think Darryl Morey has discussed this. Who share

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Speaker 1: We are there's a funny thing, So I don't dislike

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Speaker 1: that is happening because of what Lebron's doing. Right now,

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Speaker 1: But again, like those coke things, people don't believe this.

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Speaker 1: at thirty five. Lebron turns thirty nine in forty days

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Speaker 1: and is still there's not six guys in the league.

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Speaker 2: Nick he'd make right now, he'd make all NBA first team, yes, year,

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Speaker 1: Right that's what absolutely listen, he is. There are a

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Speaker 1: there is a very select few guys who have clearly

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Speaker 1: the regular season. Has I'd rather have thirty nine year

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Speaker 2: I finally would no, But right now, all NBA first

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Speaker 2: team would be Tatum's having a great year, sure, Jokic, Lebron,

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Speaker 2: probably Luca, absolutely Luca, and.

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Speaker 1: The other guard. Yeah. I mean, if you didn't have

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Speaker 1: point is, he's one of the guys. He's at that age,

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Speaker 1: And I tweeted about it that Dylan Brooks Knight. I

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, Lebron, if we were to be like hey,

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Speaker 1: thirty games in NBA history. Lebron's got like twenty six

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I just don't think he'll ever be bad.

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Speaker 1: I don't see what he might. He's not always going

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Speaker 1: Jordan wasn't. To be fair, Jordan was never bad. Uh.

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Speaker 2: I've never said anything I don't believe, but I do

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Speaker 1: got hurt, you know, did that stuff. Then he's like,

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Speaker 1: all right, what what's the smartest move next? Let me

431
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Speaker 1: go play for someone that could accentuate that I can throw,

432
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: because that's what everybody doubts. Yeah, okay, let me go

433
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: do that. And then once he does that and he

434
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Speaker 1: gets his shot in the NFL, Okay, what is the

435
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: way for me to show these guys that I am valuable?

436
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: The real deal? All of it? Well, one thing is,

437
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: and again I don't know him at all, so maybe

438
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm assigning things to him, but this is what happened.

439
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: As far as the timeline of it, Well, they had

440
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: drafted a quarterback super high who they got rid of

441
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: because everybody hated them in part there's other reasons. So

442
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: let me be the ultimate guy, leader, forward facing guy,

443
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: and when it comes to how I play, my style

444
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: will be what do you need? What do you need?

445
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: You want me to get beat up the way a

446
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: quarterback really doesn't get beat up. You want to design

447
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: a signature play that the strategy behind it is seventeen

448
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: of the twenty two people on the field hit me

449
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: from different angles. I will not complain. And guess what

450
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: it led to a second round pick who got bingched

451
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Speaker 1: in college to having a quarter of a billion dollar

452
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 1: contract and the entire football world respecting it. So that's like,

453
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: that's not coincidence, man, that is not it. And that

454
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: is a level of forethought and intellect that we don't

455
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: typically assign to athletes, Like, no, this wasn't happenstance or chance.

456
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: It was there, Like Josh Allen Mahomes, I happen to

457
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: think Mahomes is actually incredibly, incredibly bright. I think Josh

458
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: maybe gets in his own head too much. But those

459
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: guys their raw physical ability. As long as they were

460
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Speaker 1: given a chance to just show it, yea, it was

461
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: going to It wasn't going to go super left on

462
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: them at all. Like even with Josh he had two

463
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: terrible years with not a lot of help all those things.

464
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: He was so physically gifted, he was going to be

465
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Speaker 1: able to show it. There were Colin, there were ten

466
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: different forks in the road where Jalen Hurts never starts

467
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: a single game at quarterback in the NFL, never for

468
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: a single game, and he just kept choosing correctly. Yeah,

469
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm impressed by the kid. It's gonna be so

470
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: sad when the Chiefs beat him in the Super Bowl.

471
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: I find him so easy to root for.

472
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Speaker 2: There's just have you ever interviewed when I watch?

473
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: I haven't.

474
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: I just I mean again, I try to. I always

475
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: see myself as the judge fans of the jury. Uh

476
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: you know the sports figures are the prosecuting attorney.

477
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: In the DA right, like I'm the judge.

478
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Speaker 2: I find it impossible not to root for Jalen Hurts.

479
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Speaker 1: Impossible. You should say this, I would like because here's

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Speaker 1: the one thing I don't think I've obviously not during

481
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Speaker 1: the season. I would just the more I think about it, Like,

482
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Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen like a long form sit

483
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: down forty like in the world of podcasts and you

484
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: know where you can do these things. I don't know

485
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Speaker 1: if I've seen like a forty five minute conversation with

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, I'd be interested, you know what I mean,

487
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: just like that's a that's a guy i'd be interested in,

488
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: because I would also be interested in like those guys.

489
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Speaker 1: I always wonder My favorite question, it's a cliche question.

490
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: I didn't come up with it, but like what age

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Speaker 1: did you know you were special? Like at what age

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Speaker 1: were you? Like, oh, like, not only could I, you know,

493
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Speaker 1: be a great athlete, but I can be a pro athlete,

494
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Speaker 1: Like at what age and how early were you like

495
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: trying to like plan for this life, you know what

496
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean, like making decisions and root to it, because

497
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Speaker 1: he seems like a planner. He seems like someone that

498
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: had it very meticulously laid out because it wasn't going

499
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Speaker 1: to be given to him because physically and skill set wise,

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Speaker 1: he's a tweener, you know. Jalen Hurts is like a

501
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: tweener on a lot of these things. There's no question

502
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Speaker 1: that he fell to the second just on just on size. Yeah,

503
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Speaker 1: you know, stature.

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Speaker 2: That leads me. We'll close with this leads me to

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Speaker 2: something I've talked about with people before. People talk about

506
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Speaker 2: the greatest quality of successful people, and I absolutely believe,

507
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Speaker 2: without a shadow of a doubt, it's resilience. And my

508
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Speaker 2: example is always Michael Jordan. So, Michael Jordan was arguably

509
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Speaker 2: the best looking player. Bobby Knight said he was the

510
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: best basketball player he'd ever seen, carried weight, most stylish,

511
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Speaker 2: most clutch, most gifted, and people knew it instantly in

512
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Speaker 2: the NBA. And yet when you watch that documentary, it

513
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: was a he had to fight with his owner, fight

514
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Speaker 2: with his GM. And I've told my kids that he

515
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: literally was the most stylish, the greatest talent, strong, family,

516
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Speaker 2: completely formidable, winning.

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Speaker 1: Even after three He's like, I'm going to go to

518
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: baseball is too much the.

519
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: GM and him battled the owner, Rhyan Storg. It was

520
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: a horrible one sided contract. And then at the end

521
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: in Washington, the fight Jordan had to get ownership. Just

522
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: the nonsense he dealt with. And I tell people this

523
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: all the time, look how.

524
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Speaker 1: Hard it was for Michael.

525
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: Literally the basketball gods gave him the hand size. I mean,

526
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: just perfect facial symmetry, style, great sense of humor. Cool,

527
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Speaker 2: I mean, like not all basketball players that are good

528
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: are cool. Jordan was, Yeah, I said this the other day.

529
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Speaker 2: Lebron maybe bettered to many people. Michael made me feel

530
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: a certain way. Sure Lebron doesn't. Michael made me feel something.

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00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: That's what great politicians do. And yet Michael battled twy,

532
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: retired early, try retired twice.

533
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: Three times he battled. And I think.

534
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is a great example of this. But we

535
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: can talk more, Jordan. Is that I mean God Jokic,

536
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: second round Jannis, late developer, Steph Curry, too small, Davidson.

537
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't think we realize Peyton Manning is one of

538
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Speaker 2: the only five star, number one high school, number one college,

539
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: number one pick.

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Speaker 1: Great. I mean it is a list of about three

541
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Speaker 1: human beings. It doesn't. I think there's a few hockey players,

542
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: Tiger Harper.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's like six people. Is that

544
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: resilience is really the key to it? Are you thick skinned?

545
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: Do you use that jet fuel that chip to elevate you,

546
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: not corrode your talent. And I think that's that's what

547
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: hurts has and it's what Jordan really uh embodies that

548
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: even if you get the gifts, that's.

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Speaker 1: So, let me ask you the Let me just like

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Speaker 1: as you said as we're closing, let me give you

551
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: a I don't want to say a counterpoint, but maybe

552
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: in addendum to that, yeah, resilience and slash or never

553
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: being satisfied. Like what I think in almost any industry

554
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: separates the good from the great. Are the best people

555
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: I've ever met in anything are always focused on what

556
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: they are striving for still at this point. And the

557
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: people who maybe could have been in that area are

558
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: the people who actually reach a finish line and say made.

559
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: And that to me is the That to me is

560
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: the and by the way, the people who take a

561
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: deep breath and say made, it might be happier. They

562
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: might be you know what I mean, That might be

563
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: better in a lot of ways. I don't know, but

564
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: the the and I know I put you in a

565
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: weird spot sometimes I don't mean to, but where I

566
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: use you as an example on things, but this, this

567
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: enterprise is an example to be honest of what I'm

568
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: talking about. Like you, you reached I believe the pinnacle.

569
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: You don't have to say it, but certainly the pinnacle

570
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: adjacent of the profession of what you've done, dedicated your

571
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: life to. And you didn't say fucking look at me.

572
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: You said, what, Okay, If I've reached this pinnacle, let

573
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: me create, let me do see what's next. You created

574
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: a company and you're trying to do that. And my

575
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: guess is, if at one point, you know, you moved

576
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: on from the volume or whatever, they'd be in different thing.

577
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what. It would be, a real estate

578
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: magnate or something, but whatever it is, I I think

579
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: I think Lebron Lebron. It's not only that he's still playing,

580
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: it's that he has made it very clear. Yeah, and

581
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: then I want to own a team. And by the way,

582
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be hands off. I think that,

583
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, whether he will admit this or not, I

584
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: think somewhere in Lebron's psyche is well, if people think

585
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: like me and Jordan are a coin flip, does it

586
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: break the tie If I'm an owner that wins championships

587
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: and he was the worst ever? Maybe like you know

588
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: what I mean, like do I and so magic? Uh?

589
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: You know, one of the greatest players in the history

590
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: of the league, one of the most famous people ever.

591
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: I beat a disease that at the time no one

592
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: did not satisfied. How about I become you know, a

593
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: billionaire off business so many of like these these folks

594
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: it is and that is to me, like it's almost

595
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: self feeling prophecy. It's why they became them, because they

596
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: had that in them from the beginning. It's why that

597
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: the the the almost pathological need to always be attempting

598
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: to accomplish a goal is what distinguishes. And to your

599
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: point about resilience, being able to overcome all the bullshit

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00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: that comes in your way and not and this is

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Speaker 1: the last point I'll make. And not even when it

602
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: would be legitimate to say ever allow yourself to believe

603
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't meant to be you know what I mean, Like, nope,

604
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: it has to be meant to be.

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00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: Well, Martin Scorsese is still still to this minute looking

606
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: for the perfect script trying to make movies. Is that

607
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: it's it's the Irishman was not the final one. Is

608
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: that he's moved by the art he's challenged by making

609
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: the perfect scene of the perfect movie.

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00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: Like I told it was on my ex wife, who.

611
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: I we get along with fine, it's it's pleasant. One

612
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: time she said to me she was a really good

613
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: try athlete, just a college basketball player, good athlete, and

614
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 2: she said, you know, with my career because we'd moved.

615
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: She said, when isn't enough for you?

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00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: And I? And I said when do you stop running? Well? Right,

617
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: I said, this is in my blood.

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00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: I will talk until and this is I don't know

619
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: the platform, this is, this.

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00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: Is and then and then we we should leave because

621
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: we're talking too long. But when Colin says he'll talk,

622
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: this is my favorite story to tell about you. And

623
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know I tell it, but

624
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: there it doesn't happen so much any pre volume before

625
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: you add the volume. I and it was the first

626
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: couple of years I lived in New York. I you know,

627
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: I would get off the air and your show was

628
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: the two shows after mine, because I was in the mornings.

629
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: Then Skip was on, UH was Shannon, and then you

630
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: were on. And so I would get off the air

631
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: and I would eat and I'd take a nap. That

632
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: was basically every single day, and i'd take a nap

633
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: right around the time your show started, so I wouldn't

634
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: always know if you were on or off the air,

635
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: except I did know, because like clockwork, if you had

636
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: a day off, not because you were going out of town,

637
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: but because you were pre empted. I got a phone

638
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: call and you didn't even say huh. You just launched

639
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: into a take because there was something in you. It

640
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 1: would be like it would be like, oh, Colin must

641
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: not be on the air today, and I'd answer and

642
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: he'd be like, so, here's the thing, and you would

643
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 1: just go and I was like, that's but that's why

644
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Speaker 1: he's Colin Coward, because he had this this thing in him.

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Speaker 1: He knew I would be a rapt audience. And those

646
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Speaker 1: phone calls, I don't know if you remember him, but

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Speaker 1: I remember him vividly. They weren't conversations. They were just

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00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: us kind of like a tennis like like tennis partners

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Speaker 1: batting takes back at each other. You would give me

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Speaker 1: a take, I would give you one back. We'd go

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Speaker 1: back and forth and then and then he'd be like,

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Speaker 1: all right, talk to you later, and I'm like, okay.

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Speaker 1: He got it out of his system. I was like,

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Speaker 1: that's why he's Colin Coward. That's true.

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Speaker 2: My wife sometimes, you know, it doesn't happen much anymore.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell the story with some therapy down the road

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Speaker 2: that we we several years ago we had hit a

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Speaker 2: really neat place.

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Speaker 1: But we don't argue much. We laugh a lot.

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Speaker 2: But she occasionally, you know, once twice a year, we'll

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Speaker 2: get into it and she'll go.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a caller on your phone. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: so hold up. Maybe this will happen at the wedding.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe we'll come to la my wife,

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Speaker 1: and then we do have to go because now we're

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00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: talking about our wives or two cocktails and it's too much.

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00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: My my wife when we argue and it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not a lot, but it's more than twice a year,

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Speaker 1: says and I quote, I'm not Bruce Hard like I'm not.

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Speaker 1: And she's like, you want to argue. I don't you

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Speaker 1: argue for a living? I don't want to. She was like,

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Speaker 1: you just want it, like when you're not on TV,

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Speaker 1: I'm not your co host, Like that is so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a caller. That is Anne and Danielle I

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Speaker 1: guarantee if they got in a room without the two

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Speaker 1: of us they're just to talk, they would have the

677
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Speaker 1: same stories, just from different vantage points. It's unbelievable. That's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they don't, they don't. They don't suffer fools. There's no

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Speaker 1: bullshit with either of them at all. Absolute. I love you, man.

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Speaker 1: We'll do this again very soon. The volume