1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Second hour of clay In Buck starts right now. Everybody, 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: just a quick update on the latest news. A few 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: of the GOP holdouts have flipped and voted for McCarthy 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: as the twelfth vote is underway right now for Speaker 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: of the House. We'll update you on that and just 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. But right now, we've got Julie Kelly 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: joining us senior writer at American Greatness or latest piece, 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: which is posted at Klayenbock dot com. January sixth, a 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: day that will live in alchemy. Julie, appreciate you joining us. 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: First off, you know, what are you what are you 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: thinking about today as you're going to be hearing I'm 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: sure a lot of Democrats memorializing, commemorating this anniversary. Yes, well, 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm happy I SU's direction dates both of you. Thank 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: you for having me on. You know, look, their narrative 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: is quickly crumbly, and I think they know that. That's 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: why they're so dust for it to lie about what 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: happened and give out these presidential awards, which Joe Biden 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: is doing today, because not only is the narrative crumbling, 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: you know things to for exposing some reporting, exposing the 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: truth but also the weight of their own evidence, which 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: is contained in their January sixth, their final report the committee, 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: and also some of these transcripts that are being released 23 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: completely contradict what these people have been saying for two 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: years is that everyone was caught off guard. Donald Trump 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: incited this quote unquote insurrection after his speech on January sixth, 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: that no one had intelligence, that no one was preparing 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: for this. This all is a lie, and it's interesting 28 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: because it's being exposed as a lie from their own 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: body of evidence. Julie, you had a tweet thread up 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: that they got me really fired up. There are around 31 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: and you would probably know better than me. Nine hundred 32 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: some odd defended so far for January six You said 33 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: that the Department of Justice is may to be known 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: that they plan on charging up to a thousand more 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: people with violations for January six Then that part of 36 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: the impetus for that is that they now have billions 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: of more dollars in the Department of Justice to spend, 38 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: which many Republicans signed off on. Tell us what the 39 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: latest is on how many more defendants there could be 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: and what the Department of Justice is signaling about their 41 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: attentions going forward. Sure. So last year Matthew Graves, who 42 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: is the US Attorney for the District of Columbia, abiden 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: a point key and they are handling every January sixth case. 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: He indicated that his office thinks that there are up 45 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: to two thousand Trump supporters January six protesters who broke 46 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: the law that day, So they are going to accelerate 47 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: the criminal investigation this week. The head of the Washington 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: DC FBI Field office that in a statement commemorating January 49 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: six that their FBI investigation would go on four years. 50 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: So and they are arresting people nearly every week. I 51 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: write about my piece you talked about today, a couple 52 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: from Washington who was under FBHI investigation for fourteen months. 53 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: They interrogated coworkers, They agents looked at hours of surveillance 54 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: video and body cam footage. They even got a search 55 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: warrant these on this couple's cell phone devices to confirm 56 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: they were inside the building on January sixth. And what 57 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: are they ultimately charged with? Four low level misdemeanors, No 58 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: violent charges, no weapon charges, no attacking police for misdemeanors. 59 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: This is what they are going to continue to do 60 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: throughout twenty twenty three, is they continue to expand the caseload, 61 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: and this is all to support the idea that Trump 62 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: supporters are basically domestic terrorists. So, Julie, building off of 63 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: that question, the vast majority I would have imagine if 64 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: people who've been arrested for January sixth related offenses have 65 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: been arrested for taking their own photos and many of 66 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: them posting them on social media as a part of 67 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: that process. Right, can you ever remember more people being 68 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: charged with crimes that they documented themselves? In other words, 69 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: if you really thought you were doing something for everybody 70 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: out there listening, and I'm curious you too, Julie, if 71 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: you really thought you were committing a crime. Very few 72 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: times do people record themselves or photoshop themselves, or photograph themselves, 73 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: I should say, committing a crime. That's where most of 74 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: these charges are coming from, which to me, is representative 75 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: of how nonviolent most of the people being charged with 76 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: crimes are. That's such a great point. Yes, of course, 77 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: you would never record yourself ribbing a bank or doing 78 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: anything legitimately illegal. You certainly wouldn't do it while there's 79 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: police officers standing right there doing nothing to stop you 80 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: from committing that crime. But of course that's the case 81 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: for hundreds of American citizens who are ensnared in this 82 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: really destructive retaliatory investigation and prosecution by this Department of Justice. 83 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: The couple I write about today walked in the Capitol 84 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: building through an open door. They walked around some hallways. 85 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: One of the women chadded with a Capitol Police officer, 86 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: the man chad with the DC Police officer. They weren't arrested, 87 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: they weren't told to leave the building. They eventually police 88 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: led them to another door where they exited. Didn't commit 89 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: any violent crime, and yet here they are under fourteen 90 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: months of FBI investigation before presumably their home was raided 91 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: by FBI agents, and then they're hauled off to court 92 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: accused of four misdemeanors, but in the process destroying their lives. 93 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: Because the regime has successfully branded these people insurrectionists, traders, 94 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: and terrorists, we're going to Julie Kill. Her book is 95 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: January six, How Democrats use the Capital protest to launch 96 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: a war on terror against the political right. Julie, what 97 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: is the status? Because you've been one of the people 98 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: doing the most I think out there to get the 99 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: word out about what's happening to JA six defendants who 100 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: have been held in incredibly harsh conditions and in many 101 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: cases for nonviolent crimes. What is the status of J 102 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: six defendants and what I believe you've called before the 103 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: DC gulag system that they've been held in, including in 104 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: solitary confinement. Well, the situation is a little more fluid 105 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: than it was, say a year ago when we first 106 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: started reporting on it, really, I guess now almost two years, 107 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: because you have people who have been sentenced or agreed 108 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: to plea deals and they are then transferred to a 109 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: permanent prison outside of the DC GULA. At the same time, 110 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: you have defendants who have been held under pre trial 111 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: detention who are now being moved to the DC Gulag 112 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: because every trial is taking place in Washington, DC. My 113 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: guests klin Buck is that they are roughly one hundred 114 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: people behind bars right now, either under pre trial detention 115 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: orders which means they've been tonight fail or bond, or 116 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: because they have been sentenced for either a plea deal 117 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: or conviction by a judge or a jury. And so 118 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: this is the story case. Though though the DOJ wants 119 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: to expand right, they want more people in prison. They 120 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: want more people in the DC gula they are political prisoners, 121 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: because we've never seen this happen before in the United States, Julie, 122 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: do we get the sense that Republicans eventually, By the way, 123 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: twelve people have flipped towards McCarthy out of the twenty, 124 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: So it's going to be very close in this twelfth 125 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: vote as to whether or not he's going to be 126 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: the speaker. Maybe he's not going to get there, but 127 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: it seems like he's going to be the speaker eventually 128 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: when Republicans take back the House. Obviously the Senate not 129 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: going to happen. But do you get the sense now 130 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: that we're through the mid term election that some Republicans 131 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: may start to take note of what's happening to the 132 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: January sixth defendants or do you think many Republicans are 133 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: still going to just turn their back on these people 134 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 1: and pretend that these abuses of Department of Justice power 135 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: are not happening. I think many will continue to turn 136 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: their backs, and that includes Kevin McCarthy. And one reason 137 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: why is because they bought into the instruction narrative early on. 138 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: You will recall that Kevin McCarthy calls it an instruction 139 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: from the House floor, and he said Donald Trump was 140 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: partially to blame. Well, now that we know what we 141 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: thought we saw in January six is not actually the truth, 142 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: that there was a lot of operations and machinations behind 143 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: the scenes from months before what happened that day. They 144 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: have too much buy it, so they're not going to 145 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: come back now and say, oh, this was really look 146 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: like mostly an inside job, and we're going to figure 147 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: out what happened. I was n'tencouraged so by House Republican 148 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: report that was authored by Jim Jordan and Jim Banks 149 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: and a few others that looked at the security I 150 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: believe intentional security failures on January sixth. They got some 151 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: interesting records, including that if Paul Irving, who was House 152 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: Sergeant at Arms responsible for securing the capital. I'm hoping, though, 153 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: that that report is a start instead of well, here 154 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: we looked at it, and now we're done examining January sixth. 155 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: That can't be because we know there's so much more 156 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: to find out, so many unanswered questions, and the people 157 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: who innocent Americans who are having their lives destroyed by 158 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: this criminal prosecution. They deserve most of all to find 159 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: out what the government was doing, what it was responsible for, 160 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: so they can clear their names and get the actual 161 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: truth out. Julie, what is your opinion of the RAPS controversy, 162 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: the RAYP situation. I just think it's fascinating to read 163 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: his transcript and see how people like Adam kinsing or 164 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: basically act as his defense attorney, you know, asking these 165 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: leading questions where he could sort of claim his innocence, 166 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: which of course he you know, as far as we know, 167 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: he is innocent. It doesn't he says numerous times he 168 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: was not working for a federal agency. That doesn't mean 169 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't working for some other interest group. But what's 170 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: interesting to me two things. The text that he sent 171 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: to his family said he helped orchestrate what happened, which 172 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: is the same sort of text or message that's been 173 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: used as evidence against January sixers. But also it looks 174 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: like he was on restricted grounds for at least an hour, 175 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: not to mention the fact that he was involved in 176 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: the first physical breach of the exterior perimeter of Capital grounds, 177 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: but then he was on technically restricted grounds for over 178 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: an hour. Now there are several people who didn't go 179 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: inside the building who faced criminal charges for being on 180 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: restricted grounds. So it's just unclear why Ray Apps not 181 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: only has been to send it by January sixth papagandists, 182 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: but remains uncharged to this day. Last question for you, Julie, 183 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: You've been pretty adamant that you believe Donald Trump is 184 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: going to be charged in relation to these investigations. What 185 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: do you think the time frame on that would be? Yeah, 186 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: because I was having an interesting conversation recently where my 187 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: fear and I'm curious whether you would agree with this, 188 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: and Buck and I have talked about this. Sum is 189 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: that instead of trying to knock Donald Trump out of 190 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: the running for the Republican nomination, that the calculus is 191 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: actually to charge him closer to the primary season and 192 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: count on Republicans rallying around him and then getting him 193 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: the nomination. In other words, I don't think that Democrats 194 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: want to knock Donald Trump out of contention for the presidency. 195 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: I think they want Joe Biden to run against Trump 196 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: again because they think that they will beat him again. 197 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: And if that were true, then the timing to indict 198 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: him would actually be, like you know, August or September 199 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: of this year. If they were going to indict him, 200 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: what do you think and what do you expect? I 201 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: think that's such an interesting angle. It's honestly not one 202 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: I've thought about until you guys brought it up, I 203 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: think during our last interview. But it makes a lot 204 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: of sense. So the idea that they don't want Donald 205 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: Trump to run, you know, they say insurrection and he's 206 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: disqualified because he was involved in this insurrection made that 207 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: very well. Could be that they are signaling something other 208 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: than what they really want. And the reason why I 209 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: mean that, Julie, is they got involved in every primary 210 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: that they could in twenty twenty two to pick people 211 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: who had defended Trump because they thought they were weaker candidates. 212 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: I think they're trying to cut down Trump to make 213 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: him a weaker candidate, but they actually want him as 214 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: the nominee. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense into 215 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: your points. Then the indictment will probably be, you know, 216 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: at summertime or after summer. I actually thought it would 217 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: be happening. I thought it already would have happened by now. 218 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: But I think the rate on Marlago and the Classified 219 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: Documents investigation now the appointment of a special Council has 220 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: just intentionally delayed what I think is the inevitable. Julie 221 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: Kelley of American Greatness. Julie, thanks for being with us. 222 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, have a great weekend. My friends, join me 223 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: in giving the gift of life to an unborn child. 224 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,119 Speaker 1: I work at the Preborn Pregnancy Clinics, a nationwide nonprofit 225 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: organization with clinics in many cities with a number of 226 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: abortions is very high. 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Or go to preborn dot com slash 244 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: buck that's preborn dot com slash buc k sponsored by Preborn, 245 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: the supply chain of Smart, Sanity and Truth Uninterrupted. Clay 246 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck 247 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: Sexton Show are thanks to Julie Kelly. Want to give 248 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: you an update on this twelfth vote. I don't don't 249 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: know had they officially closed down the vote. I'm not sure, 250 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: but fourteen Republicans of the twenty that had been opposed 251 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: to Kevin McCarthy have flipped their vote, so I don't 252 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: know if it's officially final, because before the final tally 253 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: comes out, I believe I'm correct that only two more 254 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: votes would be needed to make Kevin McCarthy officially the 255 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: speaker here on the twelfth vote, Buck, do you know 256 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: if they've officially closed it down. The point here, in 257 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: a big picture context is Kevin McCarthy is going to 258 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: be the next Speaker of the House. He is going 259 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: to win this vote. At some point when exactly it 260 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: will be, Maybe there's still some more horse trading to happen. 261 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: But after eleven votes were effectively nothing really changed. Suddenly 262 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: fourteen additional Republicans have signed up to support Kevin McCarthy. 263 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: So the twelfth vote close to the closer, and the 264 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: c span is still saying the vote is on going, 265 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: so it's still possible last minute horse trading. I think 266 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: he only needs two more votes to officially be speaker. 267 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: For people out there who have been following this on 268 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: a minute by minute basis, oh my gosh, you mean 269 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: the chaos. You mean that the tumult that our nation's 270 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: capital has been thrown into. It's just like we said, everybody, 271 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: it's all gonna be fine. It's not a big deal. 272 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna work out. Probably some horse trading has gone 273 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: on here. Message has been heard at some level. It's 274 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: not over yet, so you know, who knows. You know, 275 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: you might have those last you know, there's the twenty, 276 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: and then there might be lat that last group of 277 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: six that may decide they're gonna really stick it to 278 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: McCarthy a bit longer, so he needs a handful more votes, 279 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: but I think we'll likely hear and we got Anna 280 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: Paulina is supposed to join us, assuming she doesn't have 281 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: to be in the midst of voting in the next hour. 282 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: She's one of those members of Congress. And we're probably 283 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: here that there were some concessions that were made by 284 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: McCarthy to this group, and that there were promises that 285 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: were made and maybe, you know, Kevin McCarthy's gotten a 286 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: little bit of a wake up call here. I mean, 287 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: you can look at this as something that could bring 288 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: about some real positives beyond I think even just the concessions. 289 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: You know, I think sometimes you know, you got to 290 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: get knocked around a little bit to understand the fight 291 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: you're in. And you know, I think McCarthy, if you 292 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: want to put a positive spin on this, people can say, oh, 293 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: this it should have been somebody else who won or whatever. 294 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: He hasn't won yet, obviously, but it's looking like that. 295 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: But if you want to take the positive out of this, 296 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: it's that I think McCarthy's been put on notice and 297 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: I think that there are twenty people here who had 298 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: their voices heard by a lot of Americans who wanted 299 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: that voice to be heard. 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They believe that mister McCarthy 324 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: has earned the position of Speaker of the House because 325 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: he raised half a billion dollars to get Republicans elected. 326 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: The gentleman is not recognized. That just happened a few 327 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: moments ago, So I wanted to hear that again. Get 328 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: a little a little spicy there as Matt Gates calling 329 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: out McCarthy saying he's raised all this money. Look, we've 330 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: all it certainly is spoken about a lot among members 331 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: of the of the press and the political political pundit 332 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: folks out there that Gates and McCarthy don't get along 333 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: on a personal level, to put it lightly, that's well known, 334 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: and there's obviously now not a whole lot I think 335 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: that's going to prevent McCarthy from from being speaker. But 336 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: as that was happening, you know, because we're not really 337 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: that used to uh to a lot of theatrics going 338 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: on in Congress. You know, there are other other parts 339 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: of the world, you know, they're whether it's a parliament 340 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: or or there whatever their legislative branch may be, where 341 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: things get things get pretty crazy. But have you ever seen, 342 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: first of all, obviously the British House of Commons. You know, 343 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: there's all the excuse me, I don't know, you know, 344 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: they make a lot of noise when people are you know, 345 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: the right honorable gentleman and all that stuff. Very theatrical, 346 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: and I think it's the it's famously the uh, the 347 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: parliam I don't know if it's a parliament or whatever 348 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: the legislature is in Taiwan, but where they've had guys 349 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: who have actually just there's like a famous video of 350 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: a guy throwing a fly kick at another guy. Yeah, yeah, 351 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: so you know, things get a little fiery. We're down 352 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: to seven holdouts now, so the twelfth vote is now complete, 353 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: and McCarthy assuming those people vote, because there's still a 354 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: mechanism I believe where they could choose not to vote 355 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: and that could alter how many votes exactly he needs. 356 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: But to eighteen obviously is the number that he needs 357 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: to get to, and he needs about four more votes 358 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: I believe out of these outstanding seven, assuming they vote now, 359 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: I think they could just abstain and he could hit 360 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: a majority that way, But I'm not sure what exactly 361 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: the percentages would need to be. I think that's correct. 362 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: So basically this thing is over right. What we were 363 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: waiting to see was would the twenty ish people who 364 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: were voting against McCarthy be able to take their numbers 365 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: up or would McCarthy be able to cut into them? 366 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: And the twenty opponent are losing their base and they're 367 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: now down to seven. And Anna Paulina Luna, who's going 368 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: to join us in about a half hour unless there's summing, 369 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: as we said, unless there's some additional voting going on, 370 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: has flipped her vote now to Kevin McCarthy. So we 371 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: can directly ask her buck, Hey, what were the negotiations 372 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: that went on? Why were you a no on Tuesday 373 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: and by Friday you feel comfortable coming in as a 374 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: yes on vote twelve. So we'll get direct from Washington, DC, 375 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: a behind the scene story of what exactly is going 376 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: on there, and now we all can focus on how 377 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: we could tell our great grand children that during the 378 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: Great Speaker of the House Ruckus of twenty twenty three, 379 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: that lasted a couple of days. Where were you during 380 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: at Clay? You know, we were waiting for it to 381 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: end because it wasn't gonna last all that long. But 382 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: on a serious note, I do think that this is 383 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: setting the stage for what's going to be a whole 384 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: lot more, a whole lot more rank within the GOP, 385 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: which which is a good thing. I mean, how else 386 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: we were all disappointed about what happened in the midterm 387 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: election in general. Why wouldn't there be some friction. Why 388 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't there be something along the lines of a realignment 389 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: or at least an attempted realignment within the GOP in 390 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: terms of messaging, the processes that it will pursue, the 391 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: agenda that it will have. And this is all going 392 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: to take some time. I mean, this is the system 393 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: working itself out. So I think this is more or 394 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: less gone how we have thought that it would. It 395 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: is not over yet, but it's looking like it's going 396 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: to be closing up shop here pretty quickly. It's probably 397 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: going to be in the next vote. If are they 398 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: holding another vote today? Do we know, I think they 399 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: probably will. I don't know that they've officially announced it. 400 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: There definitely has been an opportunity. If you have been 401 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: in the holdout community, one, I think you've gotten many 402 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: different aspects of this relationship that you wanted in exchange 403 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: for your vote. Also, if you're still holding out, I 404 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: think you've probably maximized the amount of fundraising and attention 405 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: you can get out of this, because once you break 406 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: down and you're down to just seven holdouts, I think 407 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there say, Okay, you've got 408 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: two hundred plus that are saying Kevin McCarthy may not 409 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: be perfect, but we're voting for him. What exactly are 410 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: you holding out for? If you're the seven, you're such 411 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: a substantial minority now of the Republican Party in the 412 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: House that you don't have very much leverage. When you 413 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: just lost two thirds of the people that were opposing 414 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: alongside of you, I just wonder what folks that they 415 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: were thinking about this. By the way, eight two two 416 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: two two, Assuming this is coming to a conclusion with 417 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: McCarthy as speaker, do you feel like this was was 418 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: it worth it? If there were concessions made, is that 419 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: enough for a lot of people are very disappointed. I'm 420 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: curious to hear how that goes. And I think that, 421 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: as we've been saying, Clay, the primary that lies here 422 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: for Republicans, this is really just a very brief preview 423 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: of the kind of arguments that will be made about 424 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: whose establishment, who's not, who's the future of the party, 425 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: who's not. All of this will will be on the 426 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: horizon here soon. I did want to bring us back 427 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: to the issue of immigration if I could, and maybe 428 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: a place to just remind us or this is an 429 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to remind everybody of what happened yesterday when Biden 430 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: gave that speech. You laid out all these policies, you know, Clay, 431 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: I think it's that's a much bigger issue, a much 432 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: more important issue than what's happened with the speaker right now. 433 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: While but it's I understand, it's time sensitive and it's 434 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: in real time as we've been talking to people about 435 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: these votes. So the media coverage has been more and 436 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: more focused on that. But the more I looked into 437 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: what Biden said yesterday, the more I think people need 438 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: to understand that this issue of illegal immigration is going 439 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: to determine the future of politics in this country. I mean, 440 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: that is really what is at stake. We're sitting here 441 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: talking about how, well, what happens if we have a 442 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: speaker who's two establishment, What happens if you continue to 443 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: bring in millions of people into the country illegally, creating 444 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: essentially a sense of inevitability of amnesty, which is where 445 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: I think, certainly where the Democrats are. I think a 446 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: lot of Republicans would go along with it. I think 447 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: that's what we're facing right now. I don't know if 448 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: you want to talk. I mean, it's potentially fifteen or 449 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: twenty million different new voters. Right when you consider that, 450 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: essentially the twenty twenty election was decided by twenty thousand 451 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: votes in Wisconsin and Georgia and in Arizona. If you 452 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: added in fifteen or twenty million voters, how much would 453 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: that change things? And this is important. When you give amnesty, 454 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: you encourage further illegal act. Right, So if you suddenly said, hey, 455 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: we're going to give a pathway to citizenship to these 456 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty million people who are now here illegally 457 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: in this country, then you're just incentivizing twenty or thirty 458 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: million more people to come to this country because they'll say, well, 459 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: eventually we're going to get our own amnesty, just like 460 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: happen in nineteen eighty six, then it happens again into 461 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenties, and then it'll happen again in twenty forty 462 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: and essentially we have no border. So at what point 463 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: this is? This is why we made fun of Kamala Harris. 464 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: But if you really want to discuss illegal immigration, there 465 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: are two root causes. One is there's better economic opportunity 466 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: here than in almost any country in the world. And 467 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, Buck, I saw a great stat Do you 468 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: know who the highest earning people in America are right now? 469 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: Asian men and Asian women. Asian women have now passed 470 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: white men in terms of their earnings. Why would all 471 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: these people be trying to come from other countries if 472 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: America were a fundamentally racist country, Because it's not, because 473 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: they recognize opportunity here is not determined by skin color, 474 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: and you'll not hardly hear anybody discuss that, but it's 475 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: I think it's really significant Asian men and Asian women 476 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: are now the highest earning people in the United States. 477 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: If this were a country fueled on white supremacy in 478 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: the twenty twenties. That's a really big failure of white 479 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: supremacy that Asian people are now rising up and dunking 480 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: all over everyone else in the United States. When it 481 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: comes to earnings power, immigrants from Nigeria earn more than 482 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: the average American and even than the average Caucasian house 483 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: right in this country. That's right. So it's not even 484 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: just Asian, it's not even just Asian Americans. It's immigrants 485 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: from West Africa out earn most other groups. I mean, 486 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: they probably are just behind you know, Asian Americans and 487 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: a couple of other groups that you could discuss. But yeah, 488 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: this is this is the country, the land of opportunity, 489 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: there is, there is so much opportunity out there. But 490 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: what happens in the country if we become essentially the 491 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: world's welfare ward and or in a welfare states, that's 492 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: a big challenge for us. That's something that if you're 493 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: looking at five million in two you can it continue? 494 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what I would want to ask Democrats, 495 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: and I want to come back to this. Five million 496 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: illegals enter the country in two years, So is this 497 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: just the way it's going to be? That's on average. Look, 498 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: we'll call it to two or three million a year. 499 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: What does that look like in the next ten years. 500 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: If that's a problem, I think we should talk about it. 501 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the discussion. That's why the 502 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: root causes are important, because one is economic opportunity. The 503 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: other one is birthright by soil. The fact that you 504 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: can become a citizen if you were born here doesn't 505 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: exist almost anywhere else in the world, and no one 506 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: will even mention it. 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What do you 531 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: think in general is going to be Because my theory, 532 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you my theory and then you tell me 533 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: whether you agree or disagree with it. I think Joe 534 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: Biden's going to go to the border. It's gonna be 535 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: impossible for the media that travels with him to ignore 536 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: the disaster that is El Paso. That's why the president 537 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: going to the border is such a big deal because 538 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,239 Speaker 1: instead of just Bill Mullusion at Fox News covering the 539 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: entire border and somehow having essentially almost the entire border 540 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: beat to himself, suddenly all of these media that travel 541 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden are going to parachute into the border 542 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be like, man, things are really bad 543 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: down here. My theory is Joe Biden's going to go 544 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: to the border and say Republicans have created this situation 545 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: because they won't engage in immigration reform. He's gonna put forward, 546 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: he already has his little app and his speech a 547 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: series of fixes to the immigration issue which would actually 548 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: in many ways make it worse, and then when Republicans 549 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: reject it, he's going to blame Republicans for the situation 550 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: at the border. That's how I see this playing out. 551 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: Do you agree or disagree with that, because in his mind, 552 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: then takes the border off of the table and makes it, 553 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: at least in the terms of the Democrat perspective, a 554 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: Republican issue, not a Democrat. Yeah, they'll just say they're 555 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: going I think that's his plan. This is very obvious. 556 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: They're just gonna say they're not going along with what 557 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: the Democrats want to secure the border, and therefore they 558 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: have no ground to stand on to talk about what 559 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: should happen here. I just to keep everybody up to 560 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: speed on the latest efforts of Democrat propaganda. The DHS 561 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: secretary may orc Us refused, here we go Clip four 562 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: refused to call the situation at the border a crisis. 563 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: Remember this, would you, secretary, qualify what is happening on 564 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: the border right now as a crisis. You know, we 565 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: have seen the situation of the border managed in an 566 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: orderly way. We have seen it in extraordinarily challenging circumstances 567 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: as well. You can rest assured, Poppy that we're doing 568 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: everything that we possibly can to build a system that 569 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: provides humanitarian relief in a safe and orderly way. While 570 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: trying to persuade Congress to fix what is a broken system. 571 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: They keep saying this broken system line. So if he 572 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: danced around it there, he doesn't want to say it. 573 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: It's not a crisis, it's a challenge, or it's not 574 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: a crisis, it's an opportunity, or whatever they want to 575 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: say at any given day. Clay. Ultimately, they've decided that 576 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: we can just have open borders through the humanitarian impulse 577 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: or open borders through the asylum loophole, and there's no 578 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: need then for Congress we even have to address the 579 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: reality of what's going on because the system is broken 580 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: because people aren't enforcing the laws that exist. I mean, 581 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: a very basic one is shall detain If you cross 582 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: in the country, you shall be detained. They don't. They 583 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: don't detain people. They often give them bottles of water 584 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: and a sandwich and say, you know, see you later. 585 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, Trump was one billion percent right 586 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: on the border. And I think the most concrete, devastating 587 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: response that almost everyone understands. You think about it in 588 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: context of a lawyer making an argument to a jury. 589 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: If walls don't work, why does almost every rich person 590 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: in America live behind a wall? There's almost no answer, right, like, 591 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: if walls don't work, if the walls don't provide protection, 592 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: if walls don't provide security, why is one of the 593 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: first things that people who are extremely wealthied to to 594 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: protect themselves in their family? I mean, put themselves behind 595 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: the wall, behind the gate. The only talking point that 596 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: I can remember that was as as stupid as defund police, 597 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: as walls don't work, or rather in the Trump administration, 598 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 1: and that didn't last that long because eventually work got 599 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: out from border patrol members, people that do that job, 600 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: who would say to anybody who would listen, oh no, 601 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: we could, we could use more. Walls are really helpful. 602 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: Walls are a really useful tool. Now that's not the 603 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: same thing as as holding it to the unrealistic goal 604 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: of their one hundred percent or they solve the problem, 605 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: of course not. But you know you got a car, 606 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: you're leaving on a dark street without great lighting, you 607 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: lock your car. You're not gonna lock your car? Well, 608 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: what makes it more likely to get stolen? You know, 609 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: no doubt? I mean buck, Think about it this way. 610 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: How many people do you know who don't just live 611 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: in a gated community, they live in a double or 612 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: triple gated community. Like that's the next level in elite, Right, 613 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: you go into one gate, and then there's another gate, 614 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: and then there's another gate. Right, Like, walls in security 615 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: make things safer. It doesn't mean they're infallible. You can 616 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: still always climb over it. But obstacles to entering the 617 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: country work to stop as many people from being able 618 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: to enter the country. We also understanding it allows for 619 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: better deployment of resources so that you don't have to 620 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: focus as much, especially in some areas. If you go 621 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: to if you go to El Paso, it's a city 622 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: on both sides of the border, right, So I mean 623 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about an urban crossing environment across the border. 624 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: Without a fence there, you have no chance of being 625 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: able to stop people from getting acrossing it. So anyway, 626 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of things they lie about when 627 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: it comes to immigration, but the biggest lie the Democrats 628 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: tell of all is that they want illegal immigration to 629 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: stop or even be dramatically lessons because they don't. They 630 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: just don't. As a party, they're an open borders party 631 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: and they lie to you about it. Play Travis and 632 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton on the front Lines of Truth.