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Speaker 1: Welcome to the newest edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast.

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Speaker 1: John Smoke with you today's guest, NFL Network producer Charlie. Look,

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Speaker 1: we thank them for joining us. What over Mind. You

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Speaker 1: can find the Giant Suttle Podcast on giants dot com,

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Speaker 1: the Giants Mobile app, and all your favorite podcast platforms.

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Speaker 1: And now we're joined by Charlie. Charlie, I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of fans out there might be thinking you're talking

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Speaker 1: to a television producer. Why, well, I think it's fascinating

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Speaker 1: because you guys have a whole new deal here. Charlie

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Speaker 1: is gonna be producing the joint broadcast with the ESPN

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Speaker 1: and NFL Network along with their pre draft coverage. The

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Speaker 1: pre draft coverage begins on Thursday at five pm and

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Speaker 1: Friday at five pm, and then Saturday at ten am. Then,

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Speaker 1: of course the joint coverage begins at eight pm on

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Speaker 1: Thursday with ESPN NFL Network. So Charlie, let's start there.

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Speaker 1: You know, everyone has to work differently now, you know,

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Speaker 1: at multiple people together doing different broadcasts. You're working with

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Speaker 1: ESPN along with your NFL Network crew on this broadcast.

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Speaker 1: What's it been like in kind of what the challenges

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Speaker 1: have been So it's it's it's the challenges. The technical

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Speaker 1: part of the fun part is trying to find out how,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna get all the super friends together

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Speaker 1: and figure out the best broadcast. So those of you know,

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Speaker 1: the fans watching, they're gonna see familiar faces from NFL network.

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Speaker 1: They'll see Daniel Jeremiah, they'll see Kurt Warner, they'll see

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Speaker 1: Michael Irvin. You're just gonna see him within the body

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Speaker 1: of an ESPN broadcast generating from Bristol. So that was

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Speaker 1: the fun part, figuring out who's going to be in it.

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Speaker 1: The toughest parts I think everyone's dealt with is zoom conferences.

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Speaker 1: How do we get WiFi to one guy but the

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Speaker 1: you know, oh that guy doesn't have good WiFi, Well

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Speaker 1: we need to send an uplink truck then. So the

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Speaker 1: technical part of this has been challenging, and I gotta

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Speaker 1: tell you this has probably been the most challenging draft

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Speaker 1: of the fourteen I've done um just because you know,

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Speaker 1: there's just so much uncertainty, and there's everything is virtual

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Speaker 1: and we're kind of hoping things work. But there's so

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Speaker 1: many talented men and women that have been working on

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Speaker 1: this John for for now a better part of a

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Speaker 1: month and change that. We feel pretty good that on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night came APM Eastern. As you said, an NFL network,

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Speaker 1: ABC and ESPN. We're gonna be ready to rock and

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Speaker 1: roll and hopefully give a product that people are people

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Speaker 1: want to see right now? Now, is ABC gonna be

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Speaker 1: a separate broadcast from the one on ESPN and network?

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Speaker 1: And how are you guys doing out the talent? Then?

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Speaker 1: Between those two they are so the the It's a

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Speaker 1: great question. So the talent and the co production really

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Speaker 1: is the co production works for all three NFL, ABC

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Speaker 1: NFL Network. And then ABC is still doing kind of

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Speaker 1: what they did last year with their college game day guys,

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Speaker 1: So that will be a separate broadcast. Um, it's a

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Speaker 1: little more storytelling, bigger picture kind of stuff. The hardcore

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Speaker 1: the body of the draft itself will be what I

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Speaker 1: So that's where you're gonna see kind of the the

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Speaker 1: the the co mingling of the of the talent on

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Speaker 1: that presentation now in your joint broadcast, is anybody actually

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Speaker 1: Trey Wingo will be in a studio, and Susie Colber

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Speaker 1: in in in in their homes. Which look, that's where

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Speaker 1: we are, right. Everyone just kind of stays at home

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna do what we do. And this is

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Speaker 1: I was just talking to I'm not the name drop.

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Speaker 1: It's like, but this is what we're doing now, right,

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Speaker 1: I think I think we've gotta keep that in perspective

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Speaker 1: got to do our part. There's a call to action

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Speaker 1: We really are. We're trying to figure this out. And

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Speaker 1: everything will go well. Everyone understands the challenges we all have,

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Speaker 1: Like I think we're all ready to see it, Like

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Speaker 1: wrong and different. Everyone watched it last night. I'm hopeful

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Speaker 1: everyone will watch the draft on Thursday. Friday's happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it's really the only sports going on right And

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Speaker 1: that's kind of why it's so much fun, and it's

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Speaker 1: the draft takes turns left and right all the time,

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Speaker 1: No one really knows, and that's the beauty of the

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Speaker 1: a ton of uncertainty. No one knows what anyone's gonna do.

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Speaker 1: what if it doesn't. Does the draft really started three?

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Speaker 1: been the same way for everything we gotta do communication wise.

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