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Speaker 1: We didn't even know we were successful until the cancelation

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Off the Cup, my personal anti anxiety antidote.

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Speaker 2: So I just launched a new substack. Guys, I don't

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Speaker 2: have enough jobs, but this is cool because it's all

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Speaker 3: I love TV. I've spent my career on TV, but.

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Speaker 2: I never get to talk about TV.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm going to do over there.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk about the news, some behind the scenes stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk about the TV business and.

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Speaker 3: Where it's going. Spoiler alert nowhere good.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about TV shows because I watch things other

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Speaker 2: than the news, if you can believe it, Like I

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Speaker 2: have a review up now of with Love Megan.

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Speaker 3: It's a doozy.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, join me over on substack to talk TV.

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Speaker 2: And I bring this up over here to say that

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be watching a lot more TV as well.

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Speaker 2: And one of the shows I'm really excited about is

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Speaker 2: Gross Point Garden Society, which is airing now on NBC

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Speaker 2: and it looks so fun, sort of a sort of

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Speaker 2: an only Murders vibe, but like in the tony suburbs

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Speaker 3: It is in my queue for sure. And one of

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Speaker 3: the stars of that show.

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Speaker 2: Is my next guest, Melissa Fumero. She's an actress, television director.

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Speaker 2: You may know her from One Life to Live or

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Speaker 2: Brooklyn ninety nine. Melissa, Welcome to Off the Cop.

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Speaker 4: Yay, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Yay. I'm I'm excited there you're here, and I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: really excited to start watching GPGS, which is what I'm

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Speaker 3: Are you guys calling it GPGS?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we call it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or sometimes we're just like Garden Society or yeah,

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Speaker 1: GPGS GBGS.

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Speaker 3: How is the show going.

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Speaker 4: It's good.

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Speaker 1: We are about to start shooting episode twelve.

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Speaker 4: We're doing thirteen, so we're nearing the end.

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Speaker 1: Episode ten, eleven, twelve, and thirteen are crazy.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, I can't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh.

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Speaker 4: I think people should know that the.

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Speaker 1: Timelines are going to converge at a certain point around

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Speaker 1: these later episodes, and it will show you all of

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Speaker 3: Will come together. Yes, okay, good intel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple there's a few episodes where we

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Speaker 1: night of the Gala and everything after. So it's really good,

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Speaker 1: and it fills in all the gaps between the scenes

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Speaker 4: It's really great.

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Speaker 1: So it's Yeah, it's just like a fun, you know, thrilling,

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Speaker 1: Got Yeah, we we have fun with some cliffhangers every episode.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and are you you're filming in Atlanta?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're filming in Atlanta. Yeah, this is my first

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Speaker 1: Our show runner Bill Krebs is from Gross point and

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Speaker 3: So how did this role come to you?

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Speaker 1: Gosh, you know, this was the like hot pilot in

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Speaker 2: It's like the whole job is being able to do

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Speaker 1: Right, yep, yep, that's like literally what we trained for.

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Speaker 1: But you know you kind of like are only as

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Speaker 4: People tend to think you can only do that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to talk more about all of your work,

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Speaker 3: I always like to ask what kind of kid were you?

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Speaker 1: Ah, oh I was. I think I was a very

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Speaker 1: I got into dance at a very young age, and

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's great that you had a great childhood.

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Speaker 1: Had a pretty great childhood and up there in New

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Speaker 1: My last name was Gallo and I look like this,

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Speaker 4: Think a lot of people just assume I'm Battalian.

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Speaker 2: I've been skating by this time, because there was a

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Speaker 4: Of because they all make fun of themselves and everyone

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Speaker 3: We do, and I'm Italian.

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Speaker 3: And then the Sopranos.

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Speaker 3: Not I'm not either of these.

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Speaker 4: But what is our identity right now?

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Speaker 1: But it's so good and it's like such a fun

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, like, it's it's a

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00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 2: great world to get stuck in.

449
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: It's you know, listen, It's like I said, right, I've

450
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: paid off my student loans, I got to learn how

451
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: to work with multiple cameras and like exact relationalities.

452
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 2: Shooting a lot and you're memorizing a lot of lines,

453
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: and super fact, you get a great character.

454
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 3: You could play that character for a long time.

455
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, some actors don't want to get stuck in

456
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 2: soaps and they want to move on to other things.

457
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 3: So you were sort of figuring.

458
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Speaker 2: Out, how do I navigate this where I take advance

459
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: of this, but I don't let this become the last

460
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Speaker 2: thing I do.

461
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: I think my fear at the time was if I

462
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: tell myself when my contract is up, oh, I'll just

463
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: do one more, then every time I'll say, oh, just

464
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: one more, right, just one more?

465
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 4: Oh, just one more.

466
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 3: So you gave yourself a cap.

467
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 1: I gave myself a cap. He said, there's no way

468
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: we're doing more than one contract. We're just doing the

469
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 1: one contract if we make it to the end. Because

470
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: also lots of people get fired on soaps. Yea, and

471
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: then we're moving on and we're just because it was

472
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: again that thing of I don't ever want to wonder

473
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 1: what if ye for me?

474
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 4: And I know there's a listen.

475
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends who've done soaps for

476
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: years and years and years, and they love it and

477
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: they're so happy, and they've built beautiful, amazing lives getting

478
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: paid to do what they love to do.

479
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: And I don't judge that at all. It just wasn't

480
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Speaker 4: for me.

481
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Speaker 1: I needed to know for sure if I could make

482
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Speaker 1: it in this business and make a career in this

483
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Speaker 1: business outside of that world.

484
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

485
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So tell me about uh, tell me about Gossip Girl.

486
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 3: What that set was like?

487
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 4: Oo wild? Uh? You know that was probably the first.

488
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.

489
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: It was the first like.

490
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: Really big show I had ever worked on in terms

491
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: of scale, in terms of budget.

492
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 4: Felt like they had a lot of money on that show.

493
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, just from like the sets and the crew and

494
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: the cameras, and you know, it felt expensive. The wardrobe,

495
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: it felt expensive. I have no idea if it actually was,

496
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: If it wasn't, Like, kudos to them. They did an

497
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: amazing job making that show look really expensive.

498
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Speaker 4: And and I came in, you know.

499
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Speaker 1: Kind of at the height of their popularity and power,

500
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Speaker 1: And there was every time we shot outside, there was paparazzi.

501
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: There was gaggles of team age girls right wait, waiting

502
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: by the trailers for hours just to see someone.

503
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Speaker 4: I mean, it was I didn't know it could be

504
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 4: like that. It was such a cultural phenomenon at that time,

505
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: and I was just trying to like show up and

506
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 4: do a good job.

507
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is crazy, but everybody was,

508
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, it was lovely, It was it was It

509
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: was a weird set for me in terms of just

510
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: feeling a little isolated.

511
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 4: And you know, again, I think they were so worried.

512
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: About like leaks and stuff, so I wouldn't even get

513
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: the whole script.

514
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 4: I would just get my sides.

515
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, I remember there was one episode

516
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: where I had a scene that made no sense to me.

517
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 4: I was like, what is happening?

518
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: Can I get the scripts so I can see what

519
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: happens before and after this? Yeah, And they like gave

520
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 1: me a little bit of trouble. They were like, oh no,

521
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: we don't, you know, give any anyone besides the regulars

522
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: the scripts. And I was like, but I don't understand

523
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Speaker 1: my scene.

524
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 3: So for listeners, sides or of just your.

525
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: Part, your part, your scenes that you're going to do

526
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: in the show. And so they would just give me

527
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: my but they're out of context for you, right, you have.

528
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 4: No idea, you know. And it was like a random

529
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Speaker 4: scene where I was with.

530
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Speaker 1: A different character that I had never acted with before,

531
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, what, why am I meeting with him?

532
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: What is happening before this? I know, how do I

533
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: know this person?

534
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: How do I know to go to him?

535
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: Did he call me?

536
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: Is he?

537
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: And that?

538
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 4: Are we conspiring?

539
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 3: And we were?

540
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: It was like we were conspiring and you know, but yeah,

541
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: and then finally they gave me the script and there

542
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: was like a scene that made it make more sense sense.

543
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah.

544
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: So it was just like it was I've never I

545
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever experienced anything like that show.

546
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: Since I've heard that a lot from folks who have

547
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: walked on or done cameos or small roles on that

548
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: show that it's just a it was a wild experience.

549
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, we're a couple of years apart, so I

550
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 2: know that you didn't grow up with social media and

551
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: like cancel culture because I didn't either. But it came

552
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: just as I was entering, you know, broadcast journalism, and

553
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: it was terrifying right to you. And I'm thinking now,

554
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: like I'm thinking about the snow White hullabaloo, much of

555
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: which came from it's stars, social media and interviews and

556
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: stuff that she said, and I just wonder, like how

557
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: much you worry about what you say, maybe even in

558
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: podcasts like this or on the red carpet or on

559
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 2: your social media, because it just feels like danger is

560
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: around every corner.

561
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, and I think we live in such

562
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: intensely polarizing times and it is scary.

563
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 4: You do find yourself. I'm doing it right now, carefully, Yeah,

564
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: I get it. What how to say what you want?

565
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: How you say what you want to say, and what

566
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: you think? Because it's it is this balancing act I

567
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: think of you. You're a public person with a very

568
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: public job, and there's responsibility that comes with that, right

569
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 1: What the degree of that responsibility is debatable amongst different

570
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: groups of people, right right on one spectrum you have

571
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: the shut up and act people.

572
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: And you have the other people.

573
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 4: You know.

574
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: The other side is like, you have a platform, you

575
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: have a responsibility to help lend a voice to people

576
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: that don't have as big of a voice, right, and

577
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: you have to find where you fit into that spectrum.

578
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: And then as a personal person, you have your own

579
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: passions and your views and you know your opinions, and

580
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: it's this balancing act of how do I use my

581
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: platform and what what is big enough or important enough

582
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: for me to speak out about or lend a voice

583
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: to or amplify. And you know how much am I

584
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: willing to risk my career, you know, like my ability

585
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: to get hired you know how people are going to

586
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: view me in future jobs, you know. And Yeah, I

587
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: think it's an interesting topic and conversation. And I don't

588
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: think that there's actually any wrong answers, right, because you

589
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: could also debate like, yeah, it might, it might affect

590
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: your career, or maybe the people that like aren't afraid

591
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: of that shit and like, you know, have similar values

592
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: as you are going to be the ones that hire

593
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: you in the future. Like yeah, you know, I don't know.

594
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer is, and I don't

595
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: think anyone does.

596
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: No, and I don't either.

597
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: And I've seen my husband's and in crisis calm, so

598
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: I kind of see this from like all the sides.

599
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: And I'm in a business where I literally put my

600
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: opinions out there, right, and you know, to all kinds

601
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: of consequences from death threats to you know, fans, But yeah,

602
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: it just feels like in your business in particular, you

603
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: don't know what's going to work. You don't know what's

604
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: going to you know, really jeopardize your standing, whether it's

605
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: this political opinion or that political opinion.

606
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: And maybe if you're.

607
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: Number one on the call sheet, you get more you

608
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: have more leeway, or maybe you get more scrutiny. Like

609
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: it just feels like a very fraught Yeah, time to

610
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: be Yeah, not an actor, but a real person, a

611
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: real person in a in a business where people want

612
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: you to reveal a lot about yourself, and like, how

613
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: do you do that in a way that's both smart

614
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: but true to yourself? And yeah, it just feels like

615
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: you could have circular arguments in your head all day

616
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: about it.

617
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: Oh, you absolutely can, and I have, yeah.

618
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 4: And.

619
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: I think I'm still figuring so much of it out

620
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: and it changes and evolves, and you know, like even

621
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: our kids, we don't like super hide our kids. We've

622
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: we've had some pictures of them when they were babies,

623
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: like on social media here and there. But then it

624
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: got to the point as they got older while I

625
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I don't think I feel good about

626
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: this anymore, and like we kind of changed our stance

627
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: and we you know, started not posting them anymore because

628
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: I felt like I was like their face is changing

629
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: into more what they're probably going to look like when

630
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: they're teenagers, and I don't think I want them to

631
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: be recognizable, you know what I mean.

632
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: It's like the whole debate you have.

633
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: So I also think it's like this thing that evolves,

634
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: like as you grow older, as you go along, as

635
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: your career changes of like you know, yeah, and it

636
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: and it.

637
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 4: Is like I don't know.

638
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's some people that have like

639
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: so many crazy talent and power and they can say

640
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: probably whatever the fuck they want, you know, like.

641
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: That's a thing too that for them.

642
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: I love that for them. I love that for them.

643
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: It's like the actors that don't have to be on

644
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: social media.

645
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have zero fucks to give. I'm like, so.

646
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: Zero fucks to give, and like still win an oscar

647
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: every year, and I'm like, yeah, cool, maybe if I'm

648
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: winning Oscars, I won't be on social media either, but.

649
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 4: Like at least recognize that, like don't be like a

650
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: non social Like it's like.

651
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: Like you just get you don't have to be I

652
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: have to be, okay, totally, Like I tell people to

653
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: watch my show.

654
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: So I so get that. Okay. So sorry for that diversion.

655
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: I'm just fascinat No. But I want to talk about

656
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: Brooklyn nine nine.

657
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: You're cast in the pilot opposite Andy Samberg.

658
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: He was a big deal at the time. He still

659
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: is fresh office, yeah, fresh off SNL. This was a

660
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: big deal.

661
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: How excited slash nervous were you for this opportunity?

662
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 4: Terrified?

663
00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: You were terrified?

664
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: I was terrified.

665
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: I I so when I auditioned for Amy, she was

666
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: kind of like a confident, like tougher version of the

667
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: Amy that eventually ended up being on the show. I

668
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: feel like you can kind of see hints of it

669
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: in the very early episodes of season one, and I

670
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: don't know if this is actually what happened, but the

671
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: story I told myself was the writer saw how fucking

672
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: nervous I was all throughout the pilot and the beginning

673
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: of the series, and they just kept writing more and

674
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: more nervous, awkward moments for Amy that that became like

675
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: a staple part of her character. And maybe it's just

676
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe they would say it was something different,

677
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: but I was like, damn, man, I'm not pulling this off.

678
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: They see how freaking scared I am right through me.

679
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: They see right through me. I'm there hazing me right now, right.

680
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, because it really rounded out your character and

681
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: created some layers that might not have been there on

682
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: the page.

683
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it gave me a place to

684
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 4: funnel all of that nervous energy.

685
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah too.

686
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: I used to just like be sweaty sometimes as Amy,

687
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, why am I sweating? Like just

688
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: because I'm so anxious and I'm every muscle in my

689
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: body is clenched.

690
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 3: His body is working hard beneath the surface.

691
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 4: I am working a little too hard.

692
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: But I was.

693
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: I was really intimidated. I honestly was intimidated by almost everyone.

694
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: I was intimidated by Andy. He was coming right off

695
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: of Estenel. He was such a big deal. I was

696
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: intimidated by Andre the Great Andre Brower, And there was

697
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: also so much hype and buzz around Andre doing a comedy.

698
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: Terry Crews felt larger than life.

699
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of Joela Trulio's like forever

700
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: since forever, and I was like, I can't believe I

701
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: get to act with him, And like Chelsea was so

702
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: funny and stef and he was such an amazing actor

703
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: and so funny, and everyone just felt like they knew

704
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: what they were doing. Yeah, And I was like, man,

705
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to fake it till I make it, man, Like,

706
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: I just really got to pretend like I also, I

707
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: also know what I am doing.

708
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: Here, right, I mean that's a good survival skill.

709
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

710
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got I read you got police training.

711
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: I know a bunch of like actors who've done doctor

712
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: shows and they go to like a doctor school for actors.

713
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: What was your police training? Like?

714
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was fun. I mean it was pretty light.

715
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: It was these two x LAPD detectives that were consultants

716
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: on our show pretty much for like the whole run

717
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: of the show. Also, they would pop in every time

718
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: we were doing a police chase or arresting someone just

719
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: to you know, give us little adjustments. Yeah, but it

720
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: was Yeah, they took us.

721
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 4: Oh, this is fun. They took us. When we were

722
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 4: doing the pilot, we went on.

723
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: The Parks and Rec set because Parks and Rec was

724
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: still on, we went on their sets. So we're in

725
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 1: the like office set of Parks and Rec. And they're

726
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: teaching us how to hold our guns, how to clear

727
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: corners as a group. Oh, my god, how to like

728
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: clear a space, which was hilarious because there were so

729
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: many times where we'll be like, no, no, no, you don't

730
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: stand there.

731
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 4: Because you'll get shot.

732
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 3: You are in the line of fire.

733
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: You are in the line of fire. You can never

734
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: be in the line of fire. So you have to

735
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: stand over here. And we're like, oh, oh, yeah, that

736
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: makes sense, you know, and like let's say the suspect

737
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: is in this room, and how would you get from

738
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: here to there? And so it was like a lot

739
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: of that. We did that for like a couple hours.

740
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 4: It was really fun.

741
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: And also I was like, I can't believe I'm on

742
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: the set of Parking Parks and right with a gun,

743
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: right with a fake gun, like clearing corners and you know,

744
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: funning like clear and then there was like how do

745
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: you go around the person that clears you to like

746
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: the next part, Like it was all those little like

747
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: tips and tricks and how to hank somebody.

748
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 4: And they had like a little dummy.

749
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: There I think for us to practice like arresting and handcuffing,

750
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: and yeah, it was fun. It was just stuff like that,

751
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: just so that you know, pulling out our gun, how

752
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: to holster our gun all.

753
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: Those does look ridiculous.

754
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, little things, so that we just didn't it didn't

755
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: take away from the scenes. The Mike Sure and Dan

756
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: Gore really wanted us to look like we knew what

757
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: we were doing whenever we were doing the cop stuff,

758
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: so it was important to them.

759
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

760
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the show is super successful, but it almost

761
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: gets canceled.

762
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah midway through. What tell me about that moment.

763
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: Well, so we didn't even know we were successful until

764
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: the cancelation saga happened.

765
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 4: You know.

766
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: It was like the ratings were always like kind of

767
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: soft in the middle.

768
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: And critically people loved it.

769
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, critically people loved it.

770
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: We had you know, the Golden Globe winds out of

771
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: the gate, but then like nothing after that, and so

772
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: we kinda we got some pickups I think in the

773
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: early seasons, but every year it was like are we

774
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: gonna make it? Are we gonna make it? Are we

775
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: gonna make it? And then we get canceled. Seasons is five?

776
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: Season five? Right, okay?

777
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, after season five, so for season six we get

778
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: canceled and it it was a slow news day that

779
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: day it blows up on Twitter and our first reaction

780
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: in the group chat is like, holy shit, you guys,

781
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: I think people watch our show, like a lot of

782
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: people watch our show. But we were also on Hulu

783
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: at the time. Found out way later that like eight

784
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: million people were watching Brooklyn on Hulu when it was

785
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: on and you didn't know, and we.

786
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: Had no idea.

787
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: We had no idea because Hulu wasn't a part of NBC.

788
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: They just had a contract to air us on Hulu,

789
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: so nobody it was in, you know, and then Hulu wasn't.

790
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: I don't know if they couldn't.

791
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: Anyway, we had no idea that that many people were

792
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: watching the show.

793
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, we're a hit.

794
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: Show, Like, guys, guys, after a five seasons, I think

795
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: we might be a hit show.

796
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: Look at all these fantas people that are tweeting about

797
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: the show.

798
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is crazy.

799
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: And and then Hulu was gonna It looked like Hulu

800
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: was gonna be the one that was gonna pick us up,

801
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: and then like they didn't. And it was like almost

802
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: midnight that night that next day, after we got canceled,

803
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: we got word that NBC was gonna.

804
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 4: Save the show.

805
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: That's wild. Yeah, it was.

806
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: Like ever, no, no, And it really was, you know,

807
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: Perlina who still is over the head of NBC now,

808
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: you know, she was like one of three women that

809
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: just like went to work and like called everyone and.

810
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 4: Like saved the show. And it was amazing, and it

811
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 4: was it was crazy.

812
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: And then we did three more seasons on NBC and yeah, amazing.

813
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 3: It was nuts.

814
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: It was nuts.

815
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: I also saw that you were pregnant for some of filming,

816
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: and as someone who's had to deal with like breast

817
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: milk leaking on live television and everything else associated with

818
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: pregnancy on Motherhood, how was it for you when you

819
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: were pregnant and filming.

820
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 4: It was great and also terrible. I was very lucky.

821
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: The wardrobe department, the costume department at Brooklyn nine nine

822
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: had also done parks and rec and the office and

823
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: up all night. So when I told them I was pregnant,

824
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: they were like, oh great, here's what we're gonna do.

825
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: Like they were like, here's the routine. We're gonna get

826
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: you bigger jackets. It's greater in a pantsuit. It hides everything.

827
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna have like a series of sizes.

828
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: You just tell us when you want to size up

829
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: or need to size up.

830
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: And they were.

831
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: They made it so comfortable.

832
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm forever indebted to these women and grateful for them.

833
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: They just made me feel so good and normal about

834
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: my potty changing. Well, I'm shooting a television show, which

835
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: is a very vulnerable place to be in, and they

836
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: were just so chill about it, you know. I would

837
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: like the first few times had to ask for bigger pants,

838
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: they were just like.

839
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 4: Oh, yep, we got that right here, like so nice.

840
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: We put a little stretchy panel in it for you,

841
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, like and they would look at me and

842
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, totally can't tell.

843
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 4: It looks great, like you're you're totally good.

844
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh god, I hope it's like

845
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: this for every woman on a show.

846
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: I know it's not, but I really hope it is.

847
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: And the first time I worked until I was like

848
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: nine months pregnant, which was intense.

849
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 4: Right, ankles were enormous.

850
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: I had really bad back pain both my pregnancies, and

851
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: that was hard.

852
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: And it just was hard the long days and it

853
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 4: was I don't recommend it.

854
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, second time wasn't too bad because I actually just

855
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: worked during my second trimester. We did a shorter season

856
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: that year, and so I had my whole third trimester off, which.

857
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 6: Was amazing and a gift.

858
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: And then the pandemic happened, so I had like a

859
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: whole year maternity leave.

860
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, the.

861
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: With my first son I went, we started, God what

862
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: season was that. It was like season four? I think

863
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: when my son was four months old, which was not

864
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: too bad.

865
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 4: I had four.

866
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: Months home with him, which is amazing. And I think

867
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't realize, like if you work

868
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: for a cool show with cool people and you just

869
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: had a baby and your baby's only like a week

870
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: or two weeks old, some will be like, hey, how

871
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: long do you want to stay home with your baby?

872
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: And they will like help make that happen, and other

873
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: shows will not.

874
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: They will be like, oh.

875
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: We are I know actresses that went back to work

876
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: like when their kids when their babies were like a

877
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: week or two weeks old, because that's when the show

878
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: was starting, and those are long days and nights, and

879
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: those are long days and nights and your body is

880
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: still healing, like I mean, it's wild. So I got

881
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: very lucky that the timing was just that our hiatus

882
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: was four months long, and so I got four months

883
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: with and so and I feel like they did ask

884
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: if I was okay to come back to work, like

885
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: when we were scheduled to start, and I was.

886
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, get me out

887
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 4: of this house please.

888
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 3: I am ready. I am ready.

889
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: I need to pump while I'm there, but I'm ready

890
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: to get the buck.

891
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 4: Out of here.

892
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: And how did you meet your husband?

893
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: I met my husband at the soap opera at One

894
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: Life to Live.

895
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

896
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: They I'd been working there for about a year and

897
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: a half and they brought him back for a short

898
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: storyline for like three or four months. And yeah, and

899
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: we met and our friend Howier Morga kind of like

900
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: got us together. Like he just kept would he would

901
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: find out where I was hanging out with my friends

902
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: and he would come and bring David so that we

903
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: could hang out.

904
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: And then yeah, that's how we started dating.

905
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: I love that. And you have two kiddos. Are you

906
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: guys in La? Where where do you?

907
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: Yeah?

908
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: We're based in La now?

909
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And how is how is the town?

910
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: It's well, uh, you know, it's it's it's definitely a

911
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: weird time. The fires were so devastating.

912
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: It feels like.

913
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: We're kind of getting to that point where a lot

914
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: of displaced people have at least figured out where to live.

915
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: And you know, I think the cleanup is underway.

916
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just going to be so long.

917
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 4: I mean it's going to be years.

918
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: These are entire towns that are no longer there, and

919
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: it's crazy.

920
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 2: And schools likes like school disruption.

921
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 6: The school disruption.

922
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

923
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: I have an actor friend whose son's school high school

924
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: burned down, and so he's a senior and he's going

925
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: to finish on Zoom.

926
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: Oh, you know there's a Yeah. So it's just really sad.

927
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: And then also like the industry I think is still

928
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: really slow. There's not a ton shooting in LA. There's

929
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: these really great campaigns happening to try to bring work

930
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: back to LA and put pressure on lawmakers to extend

931
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: the money for incentives and also like put pressure on

932
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: producers to just shoot in LA. And so I hope

933
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: that happens because I feel like we've lost so many

934
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: crew members the last few years, and if we lose

935
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: our crews, like if they all leave LA, I don't

936
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: that's going to have such a huge impact on the industry,

937
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: on the town. There's so many other businesses that rely

938
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: on the industry being in town, you know. So I'm

939
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: hopeful it will change, but it's yeah that cities like

940
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: I feel like the city's going through it right now.

941
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: I haven't been back since the fires, and I usually

942
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: go once or twice a year. When I go back,

943
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: will there be things that like are like I don't

944
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,959
Speaker 2: recognize hmmm.

945
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 4: I mean.

946
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean the entire Palisades is gone.

947
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if I'm driving down PCH, like.

948
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna pass by just burnt ground, Like I'm really

949
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: really dreading it. I mean crazy, the PCH also the Palisides,

950
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: the Palisades, that whole village with all those like cute,

951
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: great restaurants, like you know, it was a very affluent neighborhood.

952
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: But it also was a beachy town too. It's you know,

953
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: we drive through it on our way to the beach

954
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: and sometimes stop there for dinner after the beach. And

955
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: right so it's and it's just all gone and all

956
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: ta Dina and all all of its history and what

957
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 1: it's meant for the black community specifically and black artists,

958
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: and so I really hope it all gets rebuilt. I

959
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: really hope the city does right by people. And you

960
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: know they do good things when it comes to taxes

961
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: and assessments and permits and all the stuff, right, Like,

962
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: we need them to do the right thing help and that. Yeah,

963
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: and we really need them to crack down on all

964
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: the price gouging with renters. And you know, it's like,

965
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone's watching the city very closely right now,

966
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: and I hope like this is their moment to step

967
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: up and do the right thing, and I hope they

968
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: do well.

969
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 3: I think you're right.

970
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: The good news is a lot of people are watching,

971
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: and yeah.

972
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: That can help.

973
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: Well, I'm you know, we're rooting for you, guys and

974
00:46:55,560 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: pulling for you guys.

975
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: Okay, let's finish with a lightning round. Ooh, okay, it's quick.

976
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 3: It's fine.

977
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: Love a lightning round, Love a lightning round.

978
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: If you could play any role in a Broadway musical,

979
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: what would it be?

980
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: Velma in Chicago ah or Anita in Westside Story.

981
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: Ah ah Oh well I like them both so much.

982
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, those are two great roles.

983
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that.

984
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'll hope to see you in one of those.

985
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: I know you've said that Clue is one of your

986
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: favorite movies.

987
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: It is also one of mine.

988
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 2: Who is the best character slash actor in Clue?

989
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's an impossible thing to answer.

990
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, have a good one.

991
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 4: You can save one Clue character, Missus White.

992
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: Madelon Cohn. Yeah, fantastic.

993
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, steels everything sides of my face, heaving flames, flames.

994
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's amazing. But also so is Tim Curry.

995
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: So I mean all of them. But yeah, madel On

996
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 4: con it's it's.

997
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: Probably my favorite performance, and that her reactions to everything

998
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: are so good.

999
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 4: But everyone, I mean.

1000
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: It is, it's it's an iconic movie. Every performance is

1001
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: pitch perfect. I think I heard a rumor that they

1002
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,479
Speaker 1: were going to remake it, and I was like, don't

1003
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 1: you fucking dare, don't you fucking dare.

1004
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 6: This is one of those that's the.

1005
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: Film not be touched.

1006
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: It's certainties that are perfect Clue when Harry met Sally,

1007
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: like Forrest Gump, Like, there's certain movies that should not

1008
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: be remade.

1009
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: Well, I'm with you and oh no one, I mean

1010
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: Leslie and Warren is so good in that film.

1011
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: I love her so much. Michael McKean.

1012
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I like literally all of them.

1013
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 2: Everyone is perfectly cast and you could. No one could,

1014
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: no one else could play them.

1015
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you very much. Yeah, okay, good. You

1016
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 3: may or may not know this. I don't know. Don't

1017
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: feel bad if you don't. What is the ten fifteen

1018
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: in police code?

1019
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 4: I have no fucking idea.

1020
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen. Okay.

1021
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: The only one who would know what the police codes

1022
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: meant was Stephanie Beatrice.

1023
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, because she's like into it.

1024
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 4: She yeah, she did her homework. The rest of us

1025
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: did not.

1026
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: Well.

1027
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: A ten to fifteen is prisoner in custody. That's all great. Okay.

1028
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: What's the last thing you got mad at your husband for? Ooh,

1029
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: I feel like annoyed. It doesn't have to be mad.

1030
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you don't have to get to.

1031
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: Deep into your marriag. Yeah, I know, when did you

1032
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: almost get divorced?

1033
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: Super husband and dad these last few months? Because I've

1034
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: been shooting in Atlanta and he's been like holding down

1035
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: the fort, and.

1036
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: I get it, you know, I do.

1037
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1038
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: I just had an election year for which I was

1039
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: mostly living in Philly to cover like swing state politics,

1040
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 2: and so my husband was like holding down the fort,

1041
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: and man, did that buy him a lot of like

1042
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: a lot of goodwill.

1043
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it can do almost anything they want,

1044
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: can do almost anything.

1045
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: Now.

1046
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what's your perfect date night?

1047
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: Oh, my perfect date night.

1048
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

1049
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: Probably getting a drink, like a really good cocktail somewhere

1050
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: like yes, with somewhere that makes really good cocktails with David,

1051
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: and then.

1052
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 4: I would help Yeah yeah, yeah, obviously, Okay with my husband.

1053
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: He's there, he's there, he's the one I'm I'm on

1054
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: the date with good ok just to we're Claire. And

1055
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: then dinner with friends because as much as I do love,

1056
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: we just were social and we love we think it's

1057
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: so fun to have dinner with this date so far

1058
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: really like and then maybe like oh we haven't like

1059
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: we love to dance and we haven't been dancing in

1060
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: a long time.

1061
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 4: Maybe we go somewhere that's like cool.

1062
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: And we can dance and we don't feel like people

1063
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: are you know, it's hard to find place with like

1064
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: a good vibe. But like when someone's getting married, we're

1065
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: like fuck yeah, we can't wait to Yes, Okay, I

1066
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: love your date night.

1067
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: Get a good review or receive an award for your performance.

1068
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh I oh that's I don't.

1069
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 4: I guess get a good review. Yeah, get a good review.

1070
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

1071
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: Last question, this is the most important to me, culturally, spiritually,

1072
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: all the reasons.

1073
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: When is it iced coffee season? It's important.

1074
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 4: As soon as it hits seventy four degrees.

1075
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: Okay.

1076
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: Interesting, I'm from Massachusetts, born and raised on dungledonuts ice coffee.

1077
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:33,479
Speaker 4: This should be come with a kaye.

1078
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: Okay, seventy four degrees in la is different than seventy

1079
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: four degrees on the East Coast, So let me amend

1080
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: my If you're on the West coast, it's when it

1081
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 1: hits seventy four degrees. If you're on the East coast,

1082
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: it's when it hits like.

1083
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 4: Sixty seven.

1084
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I appreciate the math here. I will just say

1085
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: that both of these answers are wrong. The answer is

1086
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: year round.

1087
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 4: It's year round, absolutely not.

1088
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: You are a little bit crazy if you are ordering

1089
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: an iced coffee in the middle of a blizzard, dead

1090
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: of winter, dead of win, dead of winter.

1091
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're on another level.

1092
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 3: I'm on another level.

1093
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's real.

1094
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's really I never I almost never want

1095
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: a hot coffee.

1096
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: What always want it iced?

1097
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1098
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: Because I want to drink it quickly. Why, Okay, I've

1099
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 3: jumped it into my veins.

1100
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that. I get that.

1101
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: I want to be able to not have to worry

1102
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: about it burning me.

1103
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, no not.

1104
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 3: But you're the first.

1105
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: We've asked this a lot, and it's got a lot

1106
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: of responses. You're the first person who's who's given an

1107
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: actual temperature degree.

1108
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 4: Well, because I like it.

1109
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: Weather.

1110
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: It be crazy now with climate change. So you know,

1111
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: you can't say spring anymore. No, you can have to

1112
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything, doesn't mean anything. You can have a

1113
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: seventy degree day in January.

1114
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't know.

1115
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: Science Halloween, it could be eighty degrees outside, that's right,

1116
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: and you might need an ic coffee.

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Speaker 3: Lissa, this was so fun. Thank you for joining us

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Speaker 3: off the cup.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. It was so fun.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with Gross Point Garden Society. I cannot wait

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Speaker 2: to get into it. What did I call g GPGS.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, GPGS GPG On Peacock, you can binge the first

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Speaker 1: three episodes, or you can watch them live on Sunday

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Speaker 1: nights at ten pm. I do think it's fun show

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Speaker 1: to also watch one at a time because a lot

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Speaker 1: happens each episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and some people really like to hang on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it works for both camps of people. It

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Speaker 1: works for the bingers, and it works for the people

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Speaker 1: that want to like watch and digest for.

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Speaker 3: A few days in real time. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well excellent. Well, good luck with everything, and.

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Speaker 6: Thank you again.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, have a great.

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Speaker 2: Day next week. On Off the Cup, I talked to

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Speaker 2: Rob Morrow.

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Speaker 5: I shoot thirteen hours, and I'd go home and I'd

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Speaker 5: look at the next seven, eight, ten pages. I had

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Speaker 5: to learn, you know, with all this medical jargon that

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Speaker 5: I didn't even know how to pronounce, let alone knew

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Speaker 5: what it meant, you know, and I'd have to sit

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Speaker 5: there and figure out out and then you know, pass

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Speaker 5: out on my bed with these medical encyclopedias.

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Speaker 3: Harmy, Oh my gosh. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For Off the Cup, I am your host, Si Cup.

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