1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: It's a Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: He's LeVar Arrington. That guy's Brady Quinn. I'm Jonas Knox. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: We are two pros and a cup of Joe filling 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: in for Dan and the guys here. You can normally 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: hear us Monday through Friday before the Dan Patrick Show 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific, but we will 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: take you here all the way up until noon Eastern 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: time nine am Pacific today. 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Yeah, I'm with you. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: No, it's short for simultaneously, way simultaneous. 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 1: Look it up. 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not the sharpest knife in the 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: in the drawer. But when you're simulcasting, that means that 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: you're in multiple places where you can listen to somebody. 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: So don't get offended like y'all such sissies on on 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: social media. Ye are can't stand y'all with you? Man 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: with you go put your face in a hole. 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know from time to time it's not the 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: worst thing in the world. No, not for them. So 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: from from that over to this, the NBA is back, 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: all right. The quote unquote second half of the regular 31 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: season started last night, got underway with some NBA action 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: around the league. We mentioned Amazon Prime at a couple 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: of games. You had the Epistons and the Knicks, Celtics 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: and the Warriors, and so post All Star Break, the 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: NBA's back, and the NBA cannot help but find themselves 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 2: in the midst of another problem. They try and figure 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: out and they try and fix. I just watch it 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: and go. None of it matters in the regular season, 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: So what's the point. And if we're being honest, the 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: first round, maybe the second round doesn't matter either. 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 4: Okay, So you got to dig deeper into that for me, 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: because why doesn't. 43 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: Matter because it's a different season everybody ramps up for 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: the postseason, and you're either trying to get to the 45 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: draft or you're trying to set yourself up for the 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: postseason because everybody is judged based on the postseason performance. 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: The regular season is cool. 48 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: But in order to get to the postseason, you have 49 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: to be successful enough in the regular season. Cool, it 50 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: does matter to it. 51 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: Rea, And there's bad games throughout the course of the 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 2: regular season, there's players that aren't participating. They can throw 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: whatever awards they want as part of the reason for 54 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: you to play. And then we get to the postseason 55 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 2: and we realize, oh, we got to sit through seven 56 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: of these potentially just to get to the conference finals 57 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: and the NBA Finals. There's about four teams that can 58 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: win a title, and it's most likely going to be Okay, See, 59 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: that's what it feels like to me. 60 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: Okay, well, that's this year and looking at in a vacuum. 61 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: But I guess my point is, like, what's the difference 62 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: between tanking and then game management or load management. 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: You're still trying to win. If it's load management. 64 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: If you're tanking your purposely, this would be my interpretation 65 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: of it, you're purposely trying to lose. So if I'm 66 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 3: pulling a guy, and how are you doing that by 67 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: pulling my better players out of the game. 68 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: And then if you're doing load management, who's not playing 69 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: the game? Your better players are being pulled out of 70 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 4: a game. But if it's load management, you're pulling them 71 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: out of the game with a strategy of saying, I'm 72 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: trying to preserve them for the long haul of a 73 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: long season, so I want them to have as much 74 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: in the tank as they possibly can can have still 75 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 4: be competitive to make the postseason, and then them have enough. 76 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: Gas to be able to get through the postseason to 77 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: the championship. Whereas I think tanking, you're pulling them out 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: with the intentions of of losing, Like we want to lose, 79 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: that's why we're pulling our better players out. And in fact, 80 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: you might even be pulling them out to get rid 81 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: of those players too. That's a part of NBA politics 82 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: as well. They'll pull you out and. 83 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: Let's like it on tangent. Let's let's stay on this stuck. Okay. 84 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 4: So here's here's where I would say. What's interesting about 85 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: that is does load management start at the beginning of 86 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: the season. If you have this long term thought. If 87 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 4: it's a long season, we've got to protect our best players. 88 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 4: Do they start looking into load management at the beginning 89 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: of the season. 90 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: I mean, depending on how old that player is. Andy Helments, 91 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: I think it's it's all, it's it audit is yes. 92 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: The answer is a yes. And the reason why bring 93 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: this up is because I think one of the issues 94 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: with the NBA right now is it's a league that 95 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 4: has gotten to the point where someone like Jonas will 96 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: say the regular season is meaningless because nothing matters to 97 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: you get to the playoffs. And that's fair. There's a 98 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: lot of sports leagues that play a lot of games. Baseball, 99 00:04:54,680 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 4: playoff baseball, even hockey, playoff hockey phenomenal, right, phenomenal regular season. 100 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: All right, they have their their nights, but it's good 101 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: and bad. But the truth of the matter is when 102 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: you have such a long playoff series outside of seating 103 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 4: for the playoffs, it takes away from what the regular 104 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 4: season is. I think every single professional sports league battles this. 105 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: So to me, when I'm looking at the NBA issues 106 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: and I think there's more than just the tanking or 107 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: game management, I look at it and say, game management 108 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: starts at the beginning of the season or load management. 109 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: Excuse me, because you're looking at the game management. That's 110 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: a new term. 111 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 4: I like it, But you're looking at it for the 112 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 4: extent of the season. Now, if you want to say, hey, 113 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 4: we're tanking, well, then to me, it's an entirely different 114 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 4: strategy than load management. Taking is like you're getting rid 115 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 4: of your best players. So when you're talking about, hey, 116 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: we're trying to set our best guys for load management 117 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 4: and tanking, they ain't there. Like you're moving on, you're 118 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 4: clearing cap space, you're trying to accumulate draft picks, because 119 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: that's ultimately your capital to either go rebuild by getting 120 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: a star player and building up that roster again, or 121 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 4: drafting the future and finding a player like Cooper Flag 122 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 4: or Darren Patterson whoever is in this outstanding freshman class 123 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,559 Speaker 4: in college basketball. Now, Like that's how you'd go about 124 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: doing it. So when I look at like Adam Silver 125 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 4: making tanking this big issue, I actually feel like he's 126 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 4: missed again because this isn't the issue with the NBA. 127 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: Like how many viral things have you seen where we 128 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: watch guys travel constantly and you're like, why don't they 129 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: call it, like, why can't they call the game as 130 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: it's supposed to be called nowadays, Like you have officiating issues, 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 4: You've got issues with allowing super teams to happen amongst 132 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 4: these which is plagued and created less parody in the league. 133 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 4: More than anything else, the fact that you're allowing like 134 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 4: the multiple all stars, these power you know, teams to 135 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: get together, Like that's been what's really taking place with 136 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 4: the past couple of decades. That's changed the parody and competitiveness. 137 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: All the stars aren't spread out there together so again, 138 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: and these are things that like I don't know that 139 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: you're going to be able to fix in one off season, 140 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 4: but trying to get teams away from tanking, I actually 141 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: feel like I kind of sided with Mark Cuban on this. 142 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: And I don't know if you guys talked about some 143 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 4: of the quotes, Yeah, we did so, and then if 144 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: you want to review it again, we can talk about this. 145 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: But but here's why I sided with them a little bit. 146 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: Is if if you're a team that decides the tank, 147 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 4: who ultimately suffers the consequences, well the fans to a degree, 148 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: but more the team, they're the ones who lose revenue. 149 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: They're the ones who lose money. 150 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: But they stink exactly what you're tanking because they stink, 151 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: so you're already they're already suffering, right, the team is 152 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: already suffering. 153 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 4: They tank. You could look at it in two ways. 154 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 4: I would actually say that if you stink, then you're 155 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: kind of already there. You don't need a tank because 156 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 4: you already stink. Teams that tank are teams that are 157 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: are purgatory. They're not one of the top teams that 158 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: win a championship, but they're not one of the worst either, 159 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: because they're already in the mix for getting a lottery 160 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: pick and trying to rebuild. So they're actually more of 161 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 4: a team that's in the middle of the league, and 162 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: they tank so they get back down to the bottom 163 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 4: so they can get some of those lottery picks, or 164 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: they can put themselves in a position to be able 165 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: to clear cap space and build it back up. But ultimately, 166 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: the team that suffers the most is the team that's tanking, 167 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: like they're taking that on Like I kind of look 168 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 4: at it this way, think about real estate, and actually, 169 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: I'll go close to home for you guys. Obviously, there 170 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: was the fires on the Pacific Palisades, Right, Yeah, have 171 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: some of those houses been rebuilt? Oh god, no, no, okay, 172 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: but why have they not been rebuilt? What's so hard 173 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 4: to obtain in California permitting? It's a form of regulation. 174 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: What Adam Silver's doing, in my mind, is he's actually 175 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: making it harder for these teams that need to rebuild 176 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: and want to try to do a quick flip. He's 177 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: making it harder by creating more regulation around it. So look, 178 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: I understand people may not agree with this, and again 179 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: it doesn't always have the best interests of the fan 180 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 4: of mine for that season, but long term it does. 181 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 4: And I think if you look at the essence of 182 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 4: what Mark Cuban's actually saying is he's bringing up a 183 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: really good point. How many people are priced out now 184 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 4: from going to games because everything's gotten so damn expensive. 185 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 4: And that's the reality of just what it is. I mean, 186 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: by by the way, it's not just the NBA. I mean, 187 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: go look at World Cup tickets for the summer. Yeah, 188 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 4: my goodness. That's that's the part of Cuban's Twitter rant, 189 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 4: if you want to call it that, that I totally 190 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: agree with. Is the cost for these families to try 191 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 4: and go to games to buy merchandise. 192 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: All that's it's ridiculous, and it it feels like it's it. 193 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: And look, I'll say this about like going to the 194 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 4: Falcons games, and I think we did a report on 195 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 4: this what Arthur Blank was hoping to do, and I 196 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 4: think I don't know if LeVar you were there for 197 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: the show, we were talking about how they've actually kept 198 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 4: concession prices low for a lot of the families and 199 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 4: fans who want to go to Falcons games. You know, 200 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 4: the ticket prices are ticket prices, but it's a great atmosphere. 201 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 4: Like chance to call a game this year and I 202 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: told you guys, it was like it was live like that. 203 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: It was a wild it was a wild like environment. 204 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: It was awesome. Now the Falcons did win, but like 205 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it was a great experience. 206 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 4: Like the game obviously ended up being, you know, a 207 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: fun game to watch, was kind of close and all that, 208 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: but just I'm thinking to myself, they had a fun time, 209 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: like even though their team then they did a fun time. 210 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 4: And so there are some teams and franchises that I 211 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: think do it well. But I think Mark Cuban's trying 212 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 4: to point out something that to me has as much 213 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 4: to do with it as anything else, and that's the 214 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 4: fan experience. It's been taken away, and I think there 215 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: is a reality to when I was a young kid 216 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 4: growing up Washington, Cleveland Calves. Did I go up saying, Oh, 217 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 4: it's the Calves They're going to beat the Chicago Bulls 218 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 4: with Michael. 219 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: Jordan, Hell No, But I wanted to go see them try. 220 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 4: They were close, but they were close, and look, that 221 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 4: was part of it, Like you were seeing a team 222 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: that was competitive that almost got there but didn't quite 223 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 4: get there. But I would also say this, like, if 224 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: you take away a team's ability to make that decision, 225 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 4: ultimate is gonna hurt them. In Tank, did the Cleveland 226 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: Cavs ever get Lebron James? I mean Luca basically got 227 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 4: to the Mavericks because Cuban admitted that was a strategy 228 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: to implement it. I just I feel like, if this 229 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: is the issue that you really want to harp on, 230 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: if you're Adam Silver in the NBA, you're kind of 231 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 4: missing it. In my opinion, man, issue with your league. 232 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: I think that's why it's the fan and I'm gonna 233 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: stay I'm gonna stay true to that. I think the 234 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: fans suffer when a team tanks. That's who suffers, because 235 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: it is about the fan experience. Pro sports sports in 236 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: general are our geared towards catering to the family, and 237 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: when you tank, and and and the Cleveland cavid Leers, 238 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: that's a great example because this was a team that 239 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: was that they had talent. I mean they had what 240 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: Elo was on that team was on there. 241 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I was also years that you're not remembering 242 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: where they weren't good. 243 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: Well they I get that, it's Cleveland. 244 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: But with that being said, but with that being said, again, 245 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: if a team is trying to be competitive, as a fan, 246 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: you could still get behind that. You can boo, you 247 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: could be upset, but you could still say they came 248 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: out and they tried when you're talking about tanking. 249 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: But no, no, be hold on, even the guys if 250 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: they're like this is why this argument never works with 251 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: the NFL. Do the players that are there weeks sixteen, 252 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: seventeen eighteen, if the starters aren't in, are those backups 253 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: going in there saying well, I'm going to land today. 254 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: They would be starting if they weren't. If they weren't. No, no, 255 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: But that's not the point. If you're talking about effort, 256 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: but guys doing all they can, I mean have to, Yeah, 257 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: but that's their livelihood. That's not my focus. My focus 258 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: is I'm going to play the best players to have 259 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: the best opportunity to try to win. If those players 260 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: are available and they're not playing, that's tanking. And if 261 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: you're you have your best players available then for instance, 262 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: but that's tanking slash. 263 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 4: You could call it load management, whatever you want. And 264 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: then look again, I. 265 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: Like a games. 266 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: It depends on it depends on what your your thought 267 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: process is. 268 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: If you're not saying, god, I'm not saying it's. 269 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 4: Ethical, hear me out. I brought up the Pacific paliss 270 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 4: and the fires on lot for this reason. There's people 271 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 4: who want to build back their home. They want to 272 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 4: do it now. They probably have the means and capability 273 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: to do it now, but they're not able to so 274 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: they can't ramp up and start that building process to 275 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: move back into their home to be able to you know, 276 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 4: start that new life again or build that new team again, 277 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 4: because of overregulation. And that's where I feel like you're 278 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 4: getting out a little bit. Here is it's getting so nuanced. 279 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: I mean, would you just let five bullet points of 280 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: different ways that they're trying to try to curtail tanking. 281 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: I think I think this is a clear sign that 282 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: Adam Silver and the NBA care more about the TV 283 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: partners and the gambling partners than they do the fans. 284 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: Because if you cared about the fans the way that 285 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: you did, yeah, there would be some sort of an 286 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: edict around the league to be like, hey man, make 287 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: it more affordable for fans, make it more affordable to this. 288 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,239 Speaker 2: A lot of this was pushed on because they're paranoia 289 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: about gambling and players take you know, like what this 290 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: guy's resting gambling partners. I wonder if this is on 291 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 2: the up and up. I think that this is all 292 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: about the TV revenue and the gambling revenue. I think 293 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: the fans are third in this in this order, which 294 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: they should be number one exactly. That's the bottom line. 295 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: It's a consumer driven industry. 296 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna say some but you're not 297 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: gonna like it that the fans aren't what pays the bills. 298 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: It's the TV media rights. 299 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: H but TV rights deals are based off of how 300 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: many people are viewing those those commercials exactly. If you 301 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: take away the fan, the TV rights don't even matter 302 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: like that. 303 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: There's two there's two different experiences because you can say that, right, 304 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: the stadiums can be empty, but if people still watch, 305 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 4: there's still TV media rights deals. 306 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: Well, and first stadium is ticket sales concession. 307 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: Exactly, but people people are still watching. That's why the 308 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: TV media rights deals are what they are. And by 309 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: the way, let me go a step further. What about 310 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: leagues like the w NBA. 311 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: I mean, they're supplemented by by the by the NBA. 312 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 4: There's subst there's subset of the NBA, but there's also 313 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: they're still going for extreme value as far as the 314 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 4: franchise rights, and they still have TV media rights deel 315 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 4: that if you look at the economics of it, they 316 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 4: would say, well, they're not obviously to the viewership of 317 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: the NBA, but someone's watching, and there's clearly not as 318 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: many people there in person as there is watching on TV. 319 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 4: It's so based off I understand you want the fans 320 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 4: to be like first and all this, but that's not 321 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: how these guys are looking at They're looking at like 322 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: a business. 323 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: I think there's a difference between the fan that wants 324 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: to go to the game and the fan who wants 325 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: to watch at home. 326 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: In the sense, by the way, if you're taking you 327 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 4: have that choice. You don't have to buy the ticket 328 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: if you know the team's tank and which is which 329 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 4: is not a decision that you make again like it 330 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: happens to the season or you know, going into the seat. 331 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: Like the Browns when they adopted that strategy, I don't 332 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: think anyone didn't think that they weren't like they were 333 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 4: going to be competitive, like they openly kind of admitted 334 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: like what they were kind of doing. 335 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: I just think that the product at home has gotten 336 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: so good that why would you want to go to 337 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: get Like there was a story we did about a 338 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: guy who went to every single NFL stadium this year. 339 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: He watched a bunch of these games, went to every 340 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: single stadium, and my big question was why, Because there's 341 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: still something connected to an end person experience. I totally 342 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: get it, but I think that the number of people 343 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: who fill up a stadium NBA, for example, what eighteen 344 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: thousand on a good night, on a really good night 345 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: at an NBA game, eighteen thousand if you're up to 346 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: the rafters. There's a lot more people to tune in 347 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: and out of that game on TV if it's on 348 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: team and I think that I think that Adams Silver 349 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: with with the TV partnerships, with the gambling paranoia. I 350 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: think he looks at that is we'll address the fans 351 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: later and hope they stick around. We got to make 352 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: sure that things are right on the TV side and 353 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: present a better product because more of those people are 354 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: watching at home. 355 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 4: It's just too good now by the way, the players 356 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 4: will adapt to this, you know, because this isn't This 357 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: is also isn't like a singular issue that just the 358 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 4: the NBA side is trying to figure out and fix 359 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 4: with the teams, because load management is a portion of 360 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 4: it being players choice too. I mean, how many NBA 361 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: players have we heard about who want to be you know, 362 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 4: traded or go to another team because their team held 363 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 4: them out of games for load management like the Max 364 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 4: Crosby situation in Las Vegas. Have we heard about an 365 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 4: NBA player who was frustrated about the team shutting them 366 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 4: down for load management? 367 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: No, that guy would sign an extension. I don't necessarily 368 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: agree with that. I think guys are. 369 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: I do think guys are frustrated when they get load 370 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: man management, because that's a way of saying, we don't 371 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 3: want this player, and we don't want to play this player. 372 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: Load management and in some cases is a reference to 373 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: we're not going to play you. We're trying to move you, 374 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: and they'll sit you until they're able to move you. 375 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: That is true, that's very What would you call okay? 376 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 3: What would very true? What would you call Lebron this year? 377 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: Probably load management because he's very he's very old, very old. 378 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 4: Elements of that, but there's elements of that with all Stars. 379 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on. 380 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 3: That's like, that's example, because. 381 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: In LA that's that's okay. I take that example. 382 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 3: There's other examples of load management for a for a 383 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 3: lot longer than looking at one singular person that's an 384 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: outlier Lebrod. 385 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 4: You're combining the two. If you're saying that they want 386 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 4: to sit him out to move him, that's tanking. That's 387 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 4: not load management. 388 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: That's not necessarily tanking. Though, I like, it's not that 389 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: black and white. 390 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: You're your nurturing tone with Lebron, like he's very old, 391 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: he's old. 392 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: He is It's like it's like a dog. That is 393 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: what it is. 394 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: Man I didn't say like a dog, but he is 395 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: very old and load management could go a long way 396 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: if you're trying to make it to the playoffs and 397 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 3: him have enough guests. 398 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: But there are. 399 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: Player there's a lot of guys necessarily the reason why 400 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 3: they do load management with all these players, and it's 401 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: either it's not. 402 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: If you sit out a guy to move him, then 403 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 4: clearly you're not necessarily tanking, but you're not trying to 404 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 4: plan because you're trying to rebuild. 405 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: That's well, you're not playing him because you don't want 406 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: to play him because for whatever reason that could be 407 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 3: disagreement between away coach and player or GM player or whatever. 408 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: Player has complete control over whether or not they want 409 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: to play. Like if someone came to you and said 410 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 4: you're not playing it for load management, the player can 411 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 4: be like, f off, I'm gonna go play. 412 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they might not play them. They're not going 413 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 3: to play them. He's not going to go into the game. 414 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 3: It's not off, I'm going into the game. You can't 415 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: go into the game. They got to put you in 416 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: the game. They're not going in the game. Okay, then 417 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 3: here's what you do. 418 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 4: He'd follow grievance with with his union to the NBA 419 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 4: and said they have to play them. I'm healthy. I'm 420 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 4: telling you about want to play. They don't have to 421 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: play them. You can say they don't have to, but 422 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: there would be a grievance file if that was the case. 423 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 4: You can't force a player who's on the roster he's healthy, 424 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 4: to not play, like I'm saying. Look, management, they're in 425 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 4: street clothes. 426 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: You have there a lot of homies behind the scenes 427 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 3: that know a lot about a lot of things. Ask 428 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: them about this topic. That is not true what you're saying. 429 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, sure they can, they can foul a grievance, 430 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 3: but they do not have to play a player. If 431 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: they decide that they're going to move on from a player, 432 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: I don't care how big his name is, they will 433 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: sit him out. They will sit that man out, and 434 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 3: that sports that. 435 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 4: That's okay, LeVar, That's exactly what I'm talking about with 436 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 4: Max Crosby and the Raiders. He wanted to play. They 437 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: shut him down, They sat him out. 438 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, And we don't we still don't know. 439 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 4: How many players have we heard in the NBA who've 440 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 4: been seeking a trade and made a big deal about orchestra. 441 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 3: Because it's just very normalized. So you're not going to 442 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 3: hear it as much because it's a normalized practice within 443 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 3: that industry. 444 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: That's all I mean. It is what it is. 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The Sean McVay train continues on, 496 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: And that guy's going to be one and done and 497 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: he will be hired. 498 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: Next season in the NFL. 499 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 2: You can book it, because that's the way that works 500 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: for Sean McVay company. 501 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd love to find some odds. I bet it 502 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 4: right now, all right, I mean he already interviewed for 503 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 4: head coaching positions this year. I mean tell us about 504 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 4: him too. Who is this guy? I don't have much 505 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 4: I mean that's the problem is is a lot of 506 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 4: these young guys. To Jonas's point, they're kind of, you know, 507 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: going up the ranks fast. To the point he's thirty 508 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 4: five years old, all right, he uh is out of 509 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 4: Kansas City, Missouri. He actually played quarterback at a it's 510 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 4: a it's a powerhouse there in Kansas City, Rockhurst. It's 511 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: a private school, but great school, great tradition. They're really 512 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 4: good football program. I ended up going to Illinois playing 513 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 4: quarterback there as well. By Neilana, Yeah, he's worked his 514 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 4: way up the ranks, but mostly through college football. I mean, 515 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 4: he just got into the NFL two years ago. No, 516 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 4: he was colling plays as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks 517 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 4: coach for Iowa State. But I believe that was like 518 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 4: for a year, maybe maybe a couple of years if 519 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 4: you count, like run game coordinator and all that. 520 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: Like with Matt Campbell. Yeah, oh okay, interesting. So we've 521 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 3: talked about I think I've decided to like him. Then 522 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: they like Sheiel House guy. 523 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 4: I guess my my reaction to all this when you're like, 524 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 4: who is this guy? Or why don't why don't we 525 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 4: know him better? Like when he was being interviewed for 526 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 4: head coaching jobs, my initial thought is he has to 527 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 4: be so impressive. Yeah, you know, and you know what 528 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like you guys, we all know, well, you 529 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 4: meet someone at that age that you're like, wow, like 530 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 4: that that kid's going places. They're just different, They're an outlier. 531 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 4: That's to me how this probably has all come about radio. 532 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: Then I don't get that because I get that feeling 533 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 3: when I see you, like, why aren't you a GM's 534 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: a good point. 535 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: Let's stay on this a little bit. Why aren't why 536 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: aren't we there? 537 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 4: We always have to do that said, I mean, you 538 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: make these comparisons and like, who's more impressive than Brady 539 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 4: Quinn Man? 540 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: No, stay right here, listen. I've been around, I've been 541 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: around something doing this. I've been around some pretty accomplished people. 542 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 3: I've been around some pretty bright people with us. 543 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: Here's let me tell you. 544 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 4: I am good. 545 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: I am good at seeing talent. If y'all had noticed 546 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: that I'm pretty good at it, that is true. Here's 547 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: the truth. 548 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: Though. 549 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 4: LaVar loves hanging out together so much. He's hoping that 550 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 4: I get one of these jobs so we can hang 551 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: out every day together in an NFL facility. 552 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 3: That's correct, You got you what I say? When they 553 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 3: come to get you. 554 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: You better take me with you. And you're wondering, I'm. 555 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 4: Born out of super Bowl Week. You enjoy our time 556 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 4: together so much Super Week. You're like, we just I 557 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: was actually trying to recruit you to go to to 558 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 4: like move to the East Coast. 559 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: I was recruiting you. 560 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 3: You heard out. I'm entertaining it. Yeah, and we go 561 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: what I say, let's let's get a let's get a compound, 562 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: or let's get a ranch. I love to have some cows. 563 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: I love to have some horses. My daughters love horses, 564 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: like they ride horses like I'm in. If we got 565 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 3: you know, we got like a little ranch or something 566 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: like that, I'm in. 567 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: I like my jaws. 568 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: You know, I would take care of the ranch and 569 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: this whole set up. 570 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: You know, I know a few people. Yeah, I'll make 571 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: it a family deal, that's all. And they shorted me 572 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: on some wedding gifts. So everybody's got a role to play. 573 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: They got debts to pay, They've got to pay you back. 574 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: Yeah right, damn right they do. Hey, we ran that 575 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: through COVID. 576 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: Come on, buddy, I mean, while we're at it, girl, 577 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: a nice little field full of uh full of trees. 578 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: I hope that could be chopped down. They can handle that, 579 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 3: they can help out with that. It's a real shame, 580 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: real operation. It's a real shame. People don't recognize how 581 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 3: uncalled for. What LeVar and Brady just did was, I 582 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about. 583 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: This lock told me. 584 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: This is like locker room stuff where you're getting it 585 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 2: and they're passing it back and forth and you don't 586 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: want the hot potatoes, you turn it over to somebody else, 587 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: and then he gets it. 588 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 4: Now he walks in. That's what you got to do. 589 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 4: That back to Shieldhouse. Okay, I will say this. I 590 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 4: think he's a young man who he was actually a 591 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 4: pretty highly tired recruit from what I can recall out 592 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: of from Rockhurst. But I think he's one of those 593 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 4: guys who he just is that impressive, you know, whether 594 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: it's how he conducts a meeting, how he handles himself 595 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: in interviews, and like I said, I think we've all 596 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 4: been across people like that. So when I hear like 597 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 4: a young guy's name with people like well who is 598 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: this guy? Like how is he? At this point, I'm like, well, 599 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 4: Sean McVay probably sees part of himself in him, because 600 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 4: that's who Sean McVay was. I mean again, you guys 601 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 4: on the West coast. You guys remember when Sean McVay 602 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: was hired, there was some questions about it, Like you 603 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: literally went from Jeff Fisher, who was like the most 604 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: kind of stable, steady hand like wiley veteran had coached 605 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 4: in the NFL forever. I mean, hell, he coached the 606 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 4: Houston Oilers, Yes he did, so, like you literally went 607 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: from that to McVay, which I'm sure was a big 608 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 4: question marked a lot of people out there on the 609 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: West Coast, and maybe there's still some question marks about Shielhouse. 610 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: But I would say trust in the process, trust in 611 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 4: who Sean McVay is and his ability to see talent, 612 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 4: because clearly he knows what he's doing. He doesn't bring 613 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 4: in and hire like you guys are dumb. He's smart people. 614 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: I remember when Sean McVay came in and interviewed, it 615 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 2: was similar to the Mike Tomlin stuff to where they 616 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: weren't expecting that he was going to blow anybody away 617 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: in the interview process, and he came in and they 618 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: were stunned, and then they brought him back for a 619 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: second interview, and I can remember the guy who was 620 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: kind of pointing it out was Vinnie bon Signor, who 621 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: it works and covers the Raiders now in Vegas, and 622 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: he was saying, Man, I'm here a lot of good 623 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: things about this Sean McVay guy. He blew them away 624 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: in the first interview, blow him away in the second. 625 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: It feels like this there's some momentum building. Nobody knew 626 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: who he was, nobody was familiar with him, and since 627 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: he's gotten here you talk about We mentioned this before, 628 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: the knock on Belichick is what? And Brady, you've played 629 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: for some of the guys that are Belichick disciples is yeah, 630 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: but they try and be Belichick and it doesn't work. 631 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: There's a lot of examples of Belichick assistants. 632 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: Who don't work. 633 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 2: It's hard to find an example of a McVeigh assistant 634 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: that hasn't worked because they're hipsters. 635 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Yes? 636 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: I just told you yesterday on the show. You got 637 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: to meet these kids where they're at. This is why, 638 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: And this is the question I would want to post 639 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: to both of you and Q you aren't here to 640 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: take this one, so I saved it for today. Do 641 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 3: we think that that's why the younger generation of coaches 642 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 3: are being You would not consider a coach in their 643 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: thirties in the old NFL. You might not consider a 644 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: coach in their early forties in the old NFL. This 645 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 3: new NFL, they're hiring younger. The game has gotten younger, 646 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: and I'm telling you, I think it's because the players 647 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: have changed. The way you interact and you deal with 648 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: players has to be very, very different in twenty twenty six. 649 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 3: It's a theory, it's a thought. But this new wave 650 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: of younger coaches coming in. We just had the youngest 651 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 3: coach in the history of the league, right just win 652 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl? Is did he get that record? I 653 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: believe he might be the youngest Donald Yeah, I think 654 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: he might be. If he's not, he's one or two. 655 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: I think he might be the youngest head coach to 656 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl. I'm I'm I almost feel like 657 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: I'm certain on that. But I'm just curious. Is this 658 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: out of necessity? Is it easy to fire? Is it 659 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: he year to fire a young guy and say, hey, 660 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: you know, there's plenty of young guys. I just wonder 661 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 3: why has it become such a there is a mold 662 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: or there is a profile that I feel is developing 663 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 3: in the head coaching hiring cycles, and it's younger with 664 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 3: all of them. 665 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 4: Very just this question, though I don't know. I think 666 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 4: I think it's us and I think I think that's 667 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 4: our perspective on how the hying process has gone. Like 668 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 4: if you think through times like Steve Jobs, I think 669 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 4: he was like twenty one years old when he founded Apple. 670 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: You know, Steve was in the act. His partner was 671 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 4: like twenty six. You know, look at Microsoft, Paul Allen 672 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 4: was twenty two years old. I mean, if you go 673 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 4: through like history and I relate to these specific examples 674 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 4: of successful companies because you know that's what you have 675 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 4: with the NFL. You have thirty to successful companies obviously, right, 676 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 4: they're like recession proof. These things never can go out 677 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 4: of business, bad years, whatever, doesn't matter. They print money. 678 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 4: And so you're you're tasked with finding whoever that next 679 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 4: bright mind is, whether it be young old what have 680 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 4: you to lead your team? And I think it's just 681 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 4: in some ways a little bit of our misconception that, like, 682 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 4: you know, young people haven't blazed this path before. But 683 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 4: the truth of the matter is they have, It's just 684 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 4: it doesn't happen quite as often. And I think we 685 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 4: also like to believe that you need to have experience, 686 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 4: you need to you know, go through some of the 687 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 4: bumps and bruises in order to understand like what that 688 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: job entails. Experience maybe be a better decision maker, Yeah, 689 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: but maybe you're a better decision maker not having that experience. 690 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: And to that point on Earth is bliss, they say, right, yeah. 691 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 4: And I think people tend to forget, like a lot 692 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 4: of this country was actually built on entrepreneurism, where you 693 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 4: have people who are starting up a company. They have 694 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 4: an idea, they have a product, a service, whatever, and 695 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 4: they end up then making it, you know, and they 696 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 4: get to a certain point where maybe they bring in 697 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 4: some other people who can't help them, but it's their idea, 698 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: it's their baby that they where they get it. And 699 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 4: I think that's what we were starting to see a 700 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 4: little bit too in sports, with people feeling more confident 701 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 4: and hiring some of these young people who have been 702 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 4: ingrained in this whole thing since they were probably five 703 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 4: or six as an athlete, and then they transitioned into 704 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 4: coaching relatively quickly because that's their expertise. That's what they've 705 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 4: been doing, and maybe their entire life. We've looked at 706 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 4: it and said, well they were you know again, in 707 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 4: Shieldhouse's case, a highly touted quarterback out of Kansas City, 708 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 4: Missouri goes to Illinois. You know that the career ends 709 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 4: at some point, but maybe the entire time he's preparing 710 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 4: himself for that moment. I can promise you this. I 711 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 4: know Sean McVay was. I remember going to you know, 712 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 4: uptown or an old town whatever it is in Oxford, Ohio, 713 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 4: and him be on the football team and being around 714 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 4: and seeing like some of the guys who were on 715 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 4: the team during that time. I mean he was even 716 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 4: younger than me, but I remember like going to see 717 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 4: my high school sweeter at the time and you'd see 718 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 4: that stuff and you're like, all right, that guy's got 719 00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 4: a stuff together. 720 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: He looked like, oh god, no, don't. 721 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 4: We're not going there. But the point is that talking 722 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 4: about the real probably more common than we realize. I see, 723 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 4: this is why can't even brings stuff up. 724 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: It's a Toledo rocket. 725 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 4: Cavin brings stuff up. 726 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 3: Hey ways, he looked like you because that was I'm 727 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: not finished yet. That was I'm not finished yet, Q. 728 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 3: What what's the stat on the Super Bowl? Bro? 729 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: All right? 730 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 7: So actually I have the three youngest head coaches. The 731 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 7: youngest was not Mike McDonald's number three. There was actually 732 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 7: McVeagh at thirty six, young thirty six, and then the 733 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 7: second was Tomlin almost turning thirty seven. 734 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: He was late thirty six and what what was McDonald? 735 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: McDonald was thirty eight years Okay, it's an old ass. Okay, 736 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: dang the. 737 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 4: Nerve of hell. 738 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,959 Speaker 2: So so McVeigh had a rep back then, old man. 739 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: So Sean McVay had a reputation even back then to 740 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: where people identify it. 741 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 4: This is a guy there similar to Shielhouse. He was 742 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 4: a great high school player. He got his opportunity in 743 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 4: college and it ended there. But that you know, he 744 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 4: was looked at as kind of a young, bright mind. 745 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: M And if shield House does get hired away, the 746 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: Rams are going to get compensatory picks as well too. 747 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 3: Really yeah, so where's he going? Who's he's just getting? Nay, 748 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 3: he's going to go to Cincinnati and he's going to 749 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 3: go coach Joe Burrow, and that's going to keep Joe 750 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: Burrow and they're going to save it. 751 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, Zach Taylor, former McVeigh disciple. Here it is 752 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: so I. 753 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 4: Would say that. I mean the Jets. It feels like 754 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 4: there's some a little bit ready on the wall there. 755 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, does he want to do that? At 756 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: what point does it become do I want to do that? 757 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 3: They're approaching that territory for real. I know there's only 758 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 3: thirty two of them, but there should be only thirty one. 759 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: Like we're being honest, the Jets should get swapped out 760 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: for a CFL team, Like, that's the least you could 761 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 3: do for the reckless accusations for the curling team cheating. 762 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 3: The least you could do is swap the Jets out 763 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: for a CFL team. Give them the rough Riders. Aren't 764 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 3: the Saskatchewan rough Riders still in existence, but bring the 765 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: rough Riders to the AFC East. 766 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: Enough's enough, Well, you guys got to get it together, man, seriously, just. 767 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: Turn me with you c. 768 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 3: Trying to do I'd even do it if it was 769 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 3: the Jets. 770 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 4: I don't think we're bringing Jonas. 771 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 3: I think we should just because he really would keep 772 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 3: knowing the morale of the building high, I'm not interested 773 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 3: good cops, bad cops, you know what I mean? 774 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: Like, I think it will work out really well. 775 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 3: I think guys would bond well with Joe if Jonahs 776 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: decided to be this Jonas if Jonahs decided to be 777 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to go walk I don't want to meet anyone. 778 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 3: I'm not going to the walkthrough, Like if he decided 779 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 3: to be that guy. 780 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how it turns out. 781 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 4: But can I see something then for the next segment. 782 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 4: I we typically do in case you missed it, but 783 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 4: I do feel like there's something else that's warranted. Okay, please, 784 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 4: someone's got to complain, all right? Someonould like to question 785 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 4: something or or voice a complaint that they have with 786 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 4: something that's kind of, I don't know, revolutionize our lifestyle. Oh, 787 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say who that member is on the show. 788 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 4: On the show, on the show, we need to hear 789 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 4: this complaint. 790 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: It's not me and that's next. Hey. 791 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 792 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 793 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 794 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 5: listen live. 795 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 3: Sounds like somebody's butt. It is two pros and a 796 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 3: cup of Joe. 797 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 2: Filling in for the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox 798 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. 799 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure does. 800 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: By the way, coming up top of X hour, somebody's 801 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: addressing a major issue in the world of sports. But 802 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: are they going about it the right way? 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But check out our new channel on YouTube. 814 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 2: Begin Just search two pros FSR and subscribe and you 815 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: can watch us right now on YouTube. If you go 816 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 2: there again at two pros FSR, you can take a 817 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 2: little peak at all these shenanigans and the grab ass 818 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: that is going on here on a Friday morning. So 819 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 2: what was this award winning teas you had there braden 820 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 2: about somebody's complaint. 821 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, go ahead and you got the floor, buddy. 822 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: You have the floor. 823 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, so this is you were right 824 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 2: about something. Amazon has been revolutionary, Like it's changed the 825 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: way people operate, rate, the way they move, the way 826 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 2: they shop, like all of that stuff. You can watch, 827 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: you know, NFL games on Amazon Prime. Watched a little 828 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 2: bit of the Celtics Warriors last night on Amazon Prime. 829 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 2: Also the Pistons and Nicks. By the way, Kate Cunningham 830 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 2: legitimate MVP contender. That's a whole nother story. But Amazon's 831 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 2: been great. Amazon's got a problem, and there's been some speculation. 832 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: There's been some speculation that Bezos might be one of 833 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: the people interested in buying the Seahawks now that they 834 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: are going to go out for sale. And I just 835 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 2: don't know how he's going to afford it, but I 836 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 2: do know how he could afford it. Stop putting tiny 837 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: items in giant boxes. Okay, enough's enough, and don't take 838 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 2: that where you want to take it, LeVar, Okay, just 839 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: enough's enough. I don't need to order Okay, yeah, absolutely 840 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 2: I don't. 841 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: But those are equal. You leave her out of this. 842 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, but I don't need I don't. 843 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 2: Need a giant box that you could that you could 844 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,959 Speaker 2: put a casket in when I'm ordering two or three 845 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 2: tiny items, and then they make up for it by 846 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 2: throwing in the paper or the squishy stuff, the stuff. 847 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: That the air at the airpops. Yeah, like the AirPods. 848 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, enough's enough. You're wasting money with this garbage. They 849 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 2: can't get the packaging right. That's my one problem with Amazon. 850 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 2: When they send you stuff, they never get the packaging right. 851 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 2: The math is off and somebody needs to figure it out. 852 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 4: What box? 853 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,439 Speaker 1: What's the list? 854 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 3: Uh? 855 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 4: Do you not think Amazon's smarter than you genus? Apparently not, No, 856 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 4: because don't you think they have standardized shipping and boxes 857 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 4: and everything else. Like it's cheaper for them to probably 858 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 4: have the same sized box even though your item is 859 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 4: much smaller, than for them to have a litany of 860 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 4: other smaller boxes that they can't fit as much in. 861 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 4: That's one of the reasons why when you go buy 862 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 4: stuff on Amazon, they try to get you to put 863 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 4: multiple items into one box. 864 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: Okay, it's better to look smart than to be smart. 865 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: Tang and this out. 866 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, I think Amazon knows what they're doing. I 867 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 4: think your complaint is what it's. 868 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 2: A I guarantee you that I guarantee you people listening 869 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 2: to this right now you're going you know what, that's 870 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 2: a great point. Like I ordered a tube of toothpaste. 871 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 2: It came in something you would put a big screen 872 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 2: TV in. 873 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: Why for what? 874 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 4: Here's part of your issue is you should order more 875 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 4: in bulk because you're getting to get a better price parounce, 876 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 4: which is actually saving you money. So instead of being 877 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 4: a cheap ass thinking that you're buying one tube of 878 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 4: toothpaste and it's going to save you money, you should 879 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 4: buy six where you get a better discount or price 880 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 4: parounce because it's going to last for the next year. 881 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: You spoke. 882 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 2: Spoken like somebody who doesn't have to break down the 883 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 2: boxes each week, spoken like somebody who doesn't have to 884 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 2: do that yet. 885 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 4: All right, you really want to make it on a 886 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 4: Tank's that's the issue with Amazon. Okay, if you're so 887 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 4: smart Amazon, why don't you find a box that I 888 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 4: don't have to use box cutters and figure out how 889 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 4: to shove into my recital? Then and I both wait, 890 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 4: is that just a man's job? Like it is no 891 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 4: one ever else responsible for in the house breaking down boxes. 892 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 4: I mean, we're not ordering all the stuff they got 893 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 4: this new, and I don't know why. Every time I 894 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 4: walk to my front door and I see a package, 895 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,439 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, maybe it's for me, like someone ever 896 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 4: got me something or surprised me. Of course, of course 897 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 4: it's not for me. You know, it's for me. The 898 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 4: box that I have to break down, shove as much 899 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 4: as I can to recycling bin, try to find a 900 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 4: way of sneaking throughout the night to shove more of 901 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 4: the boxes and other people's recycling bins. Sometimes I'm going 902 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 4: like half a mile down the street just to shove 903 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 4: these boxes and side recycling. 904 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 3: Right when you think that box is yours, something else coming. 905 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 3: I don't get you guys gifts. I don't do gifts 906 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 3: and all that stuff. I'm not into it because it's 907 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 3: just I can't confirm that it's not my thing. But 908 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 3: I'm getting you guys a gift this year, and I 909 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 3: know exactly I'm telling you. I wanted to tell y'all 910 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 3: what it is, but I'm gonna wait. Okay, I want 911 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 3: to give. 912 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 1: It to you guys. 913 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: You told me during the break, what does your wife 914 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: do that she goes red you acted yesterday? 915 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 3: So she orders groceries and instead of them bringing them 916 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 3: in bags. They bring them in boxes. Now they bring 917 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 3: your groceries, they deliver them in boxes. So because we 918 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 3: got too many boxes come into the house. She takes 919 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 3: the groceries out and gives the box back to the 920 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 3: person who delivered them. 921 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: And up until the other day, everybody takes them back. 922 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: The dude. 923 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 3: The dude the other day was like, no, I'm not 924 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 3: taking that box, not taking your box back. 925 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 4: So I was like, so, how did you handle that? 926 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 4: I've never thought to try that. 927 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: I think that was I was like, how did they 928 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: handle that? 929 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 2: She was like, they said, but before they leave, just 930 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 2: you know, open it up real quickly, be like here, 931 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: can you grab this? 932 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: She tells them. She tells them to wait. 933 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 4: She tells me the cardboards smell better, smells like craps. 934 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 3: Well, you know, that's what attracts the roaches in the 935 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 3: rats is the boxes. 936 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't know what's it. 937 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 3: I mean, there's got one while somebody's pushing me or 938 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 3: something in the box, you know, and that's what attracts 939 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 3: that's the smell. 940 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: You're smelling. 941 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 3: Good box talk here on the show. I know what 942 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 3: I'm getting off for Christmas. Man, I'm gonna do it 943 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 3: this year. I want to get you all gift